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New Linux PDA Available
Jacob writes: "I just ran across an article about a new Linux-based PDA called the Powerplay III Linux PDA. The PDA is manufactured in Taiwan but is being sold by Canadian Linux company, Empower. This PDA is Palm IIIxe compatible (dragonball processor), is shipped with Empower's Linux DA O/S, and get this: its only $89! I'll be getting one..." We mentioned this operating system a few weeks ago. They now have some sort of source download available, which seems like a step in the right direction.
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$89! whoho. maybe that will put palm in their place with their 1000% markup on a little lcd screen attached to a 68000 with batteries.
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I give these suckers 4 months before they're out of business. If space is hard to come by, maybe they could share a grave with Indrema.
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Jonathan Steele, Ewen MacAskill, Richard Norton-Taylor and Ed Harriman
Saturday September 22, 2001
The Guardian
Osama bin Laden and the Taliban received threats of possible American military strikes against them two months before the terrorist assaults on New York and Washington, which were allegedly masterminded by the Saudi-born fundamentalist, a Guardian investigation has established.
The threats of war unless the Taliban surrendered Osama bin Laden were passed to the regime in Afghanistan by the Pakistani government, senior diplomatic sources revealed yesterday.
The Taliban refused to comply but the serious nature of what they were told raises the possibility that Bin Laden, far from launching the attacks on the World Trade Centre in New York and the Pentagon out of the blue 10 days ago, was launching a pre-emptive strike in response to what he saw as US threats.
The warning to the Taliban originated at a four-day meeting of senior Americans, Russians, Iranians and Pakistanis at a hotel in Berlin in mid-July. The conference, the third in a series dubbed "brainstorming on Afghanistan", was part of a classic diplomatic device known as "track two".
It was designed to offer a free and open-ended forum for governments to pass messages and sound out each other's thinking. Participants were experts with long diplomatic experience of the region who were no longer government officials but had close links with their governments.
"The Americans indicated to us that in case the Taliban does not behave and in case Pakistan also doesn't help us to influence the Taliban, then the United States would be left with no option but to take an overt action against Afghanistan," said Niaz Naik, a former foreign minister of Pakistan, who was at the meeting.
"I told the Pakistani government, who informed the Taliban via our foreign office and the Taliban ambassador here."
The three Americans at the Berlin meeting were Tom Simons, a former US ambassador to Pakistan, Karl "Rick" Inderfurth, a former assistant secretary of state for south Asian affairs, and Lee Coldren, who headed the office of Pakistan, Afghan and Bangladesh affairs in the state department until 1997.
According to Mr Naik, the Americans raised the issue of an attack on Afghanistan at one of the full sessions of the conference, convened by Francesc Vendrell, a Spanish diplomat who serves as the UN secretary general's special representative on Afghanistan. In the break afterwards, Mr Naik told the Guardian yesterday, he asked Mr Simons why the attack should be more successful than Bill Clinton's missile strikes on Afghanistan in 1998, which caused 20 deaths but missed Bin Laden.
"He said this time they were very sure. They had all the intelligence and would not miss him this time. It would be aerial action, maybe helicopter gunships, and not only overt, but from very close proximity to Afghanistan. The Russians were listening to the conversation but not participating."
Asked whether he could be sure that the Americans were passing ideas from the Bush administration rather than their own views, Mr Naik said yesterday: "What the Americans indicated to us was perhaps based on official instructions. They were very senior people. Even in 'track two' people are very careful about what they say and don't say."
In the room at the time were not only the Americans, Russians and Pakistanis but also a team from Iran headed by Saeed Rajai Khorassani, a former Iranian envoy to the UN. Three Pakistani generals, one still on active service, attended the conference. Giving further evidence of the fact that the Berlin meeting was designed to influence governments, the UN invited official representatives of both the Taliban government in Kabul and the anti-Taliban Northern Alliance. Dr Abdullah Abdullah, the Northern Alliance's foreign minister, attended. The Taliban declined to send a representative.
The Pakistani government took the US talk of possible strikes seriously enough to pass it on to the Taliban. Pakistan is one of only three governments to recognise the Taliban.
Mr Coldren confirmed the broad outline of the American position at the Berlin meeting yesterday. "I think there was some discussion of the fact that the United States was so disgusted with the Taliban that they might be considering some military action." The three former US diplomats "based our discussion on hearsay from US officials", he said. It was not an agenda item at the meeting "but was mentioned just in passing".
Nikolai Kozyrev, Moscow's former special envoy on Afghanistan and one of the Russians in Berlin, would not confirm the contents of the US conversations, but said: "Maybe they had some discussions in the corridor. I don't exclude such a possibility."
Mr Naik's recollection is that "we had the impression Russians were trying to tell the Americans that the threat of the use of force is sometimes more effective than force itself".
The Berlin conference was the third convened since November last year by Mr Vendrell. As a UN meeting, its official agenda was confined to trying to find a negotiated solution to the civil war in Afghanistan, ending terrorism and heroin trafficking, and discussing humanitarian aid.
Mr Simons denied having said anything about detailed operations. "I've known Niaz Naik and considered him a friend for years. He's an honourable diplomat. I didn't say anything like that and didn't hear anyone else say anything like that. We were clear that feeling in Washington was strong, and that military action was one of the options down the road. But details, I don't know where they came from."
The US was reassessing its Afghan policy under the new Bush administration at the time of the July meeting, according to Mr Simons. "It was clear that the trend of US government policy was widening. People should worry, Taliban, Bin Laden ought to worry - but the drift of US policy was to get away from single issue, from concentrating on Bin Laden as under Clinton, and get broader."
Mr Inderfurth said: "There was no suggestion for military force to be used. What we discussed was the need for a comprehensive political settlement to bring an end to the war in Afghanistan, that has been going on for two decades, and has been doing so much damage."
The Foreign Office confirmed the significance of the Berlin discussions. "The meeting was a bringing together of Afghan factions and some interested states and we received reports from several participants, including the UN," it said.
Asked if he was surprised that the American participants were denying the details they mentioned in Berlin, Mr Naik said last night: "I'm a little surprised but maybe they feel they shouldn't have told us anything in advance now we have had these tragic events".
Russia's president Vladimir Putin said in an interview released yesterday that he had warned the Clinton administration about the dangers posed by Bin Laden. "Washington's reaction at the time really amazed me. They shrugged their shoulders and said matter-of-factly: 'We can't do anything because the Taliban does not want to turn him over'."
you won't be buying a damn thing when you see the price of VA's stock!
Only the State obtains its revenue by coercion. - Murray Rothbard
$89 is only 114 pieces of VA stock.
Ok, cool device - runs linux, comes with apps, cheap, very cheap! But, does the statement "Palm IIIxe compatible" mean you can flash Palm OS on it? My wife would love a PDA, but isn't exactly "bleeding edge". She has troubles with Windows, let alone X. So, is this a budget alternative? Or, is entry-level Handspring still the best bet.
And your wife will be "bleeding edge" again.
The web site says 6 to 8 weeks for delivery. The product documentation is sparse. I'm not sure if I'd be willing to order from these people just yet. I love the idea of it, but the lack of documentation on the product makes me wonder if it is real or not....
Have you seen the license agreement to download the "SDK"??
http://www.linuxda.com/download/SDK_agree.html
Seems like all those restrictions just maaaaaaaybe against the GPL...
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My mom's going to kick you in the face!
I strongly urge my American brethren, whose national psyche was so heavily damaged after last week's unprecedented loss of life in the terrorist attacks, to BOYCOTT these Linux PDA manufacturers for gross violation of the GPL!!!!!!
DEATH TO THE INFIDELS!
I just checked the web site, and they don't have any actual PDAs for sale at the site store just yet. Oh well.
"...makes me wonder if it is real or not...."
and here, brothers and sisters, is as succinctly as it could be said, the reason why trying to crack an existing market in technolgy products is so tough....
i (and all my friends) usually expect our "devices" to have a major brand name on them...
whether that name is Sony or Palm or Compaq or Casio or Nintendo or Atari
it's up to us to take a chance, roll the dice on the $89, and if it's cool or even just usuable...
WE HAVE TO TELL EVERYONE WE KNOW
Ten quid, she's so easy to blind. And not a word is spoken...
12 seconds.
A cheap Linux PDA is certainly an interesting path to go, but there are some issues based on that data sheet:
"6 month Linux DA O/S software upgrade" - This better be a stable OS if you only get 6 months of upgrades (setting aside whatever license restrictions there are)
8MB RAM and 2MB flash seems a bit small. Doubling the RAM wouldn't be very expensive, but you'd see a large performance increase (speaking from my work with the Agenda VR3). I'm not suggesting that Linux can't run in that space, but it might prevent much in the way of third party applications (assuming that it doesn't contain any software on a ROM chip).
For the price, however, it would be a good choice for a regular user (read: non-hacker). Most of the people who use it probably won't care that it's Linux anyway.
-Sean
Summary of features . . .
Palm IIIxe Compatible
Supplied with Linux DA O/S for PowerPlay III
Processor: Motorola Dragonball, 16 MHz clock rate
8 MB RAM
2 MB Flash (upgradeable)
Serial port for connection to PC
Expansion slot(s): none
Battery: non-rechargeable AAA cells
Color Available: "Galaxy Grey"
15 Days technical support by email
6 month Linux DA O/S software upgrade
One year warranty
Includes: Carrying Case, 2 AAA Batteries, PC Sync Cable, CD with PC, Sync Program, Quick-Start Manual, Handwriting Guide, Warranty Card, Registration Card
See??, it includes a "CD with PC"!
well spoken...
It would seem that the same the balk at a new device that is as cheep as this one, are the same people that bitch and complain that the only options out there are brought to us by the same corperate whores that they DO support.
I'll order one, and if it sucks, it was still cheeper then any MS license fee...
understand? get the picture?
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The OS is not under that license.
DeATH TO JeWS AND AMERICANS AND LINUX PDA MaNUFACTURERS.
personally, i don't feel that linux is the best OS for this application. however, to each his own. the $89 price tag makes this quite an appealing purchase. However, the anemic amount of RAM seems to be an important downside. Oh how i long for a PDA that can take the place of my laptop. Or at least one with a respectable amount of storage. bah.
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...over and over again! I just don't get it.
What I am crying for actually is a larger display. I know it is supposed to be palm compatible with its 160x160 square screen.
But what keeps them away from enlarging the display into the "graffiti" write zone? This gives roughly 1/3 more display area, for easier data display and email reading and and and...
Admitted, it would confuse the normal Palm user, but how hard is it to program a "softkeyboard" which just displays the graffiti zone at users will? And how hard is it to grab written graffiti from all over the screen? The answer to both: "not very".
The softkeyboard ist just a matter of display in the lower display area and the all-screen graffiti zone is something seen on a lot of palm today that run ScreenWrite (shareware hack).
So?
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Where on that site is the technical info about the device? i.e. how much RAM, what resolution, what peripherals, and so on? It's nice it runs Linux and all, and is only $89, but I'd like to try to figure out just how many e-books it would hold. :)
Editor Emeritus and Senior Writer, TeleRead.org
Palm zealots will never admit 160x160 might be too small. Very similar to Linux zealots in that regard.
for $99 including shipping, i bought one. I always said palms were cool but I couldn't justify spending so much money on them. Now i can't justify not having one.
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The Dragonball CPU used in here doesn't have an MMU, which means that you don't get all kinds of things like memory protection, demand paging, fixed address executables etc. Oh, no fork() either. No glibc, so porting gets harder too.
Don't get me wrong; ucLinux is still very cool, but it's not in the same league as the Agenda VR3, VTech Helio, or mono iPaq. Of course, they're all at least double the price....
I have been to hell, and survived!
That better be $89 Canadian.... I could go for a linux machine.
How do you enter text, etc? Graffiti style? OSD keyboard?
From the article: "6 month Linux DA O/S software upgrade"
What does that mean?
I haven't been to Slashdot in quite a while, I return and find a ton of super immature posts. Come on, grow up. What is the point of posting an incredibly irritating or absolutely off topic post? I feel like I've wasted some of my valuable time reading particular messages, only to find out how stupid people can be.
I have not much against Linux, but what the hell would you do with a Linux PDA?
Plus the $89 price tag is misleading.. a wireless modem will probably cost $200, and without it you can't even WinNuke anyone!
Does that mean I can get their software onto my palm v?
I just saw a bunch of actors singing lazily "Oh, America" on TV.
I use a Palm sporadically, and it does what it's supposed to. I don't do much with its TCP stack, but I would expect a Linux PDA to be able to make a PPP connection for ftp, ssh (telnet?), and maybe even to hook up to a remote file system (palmfs, anyone?).
What does a Linux PDA buy me? I haven't seen lists of apps for it, is there a reasonably up-to-date ssh implementation? Can it run Palm apps (my timesheet probably isn't available as a Linux app)? Does it run any popular interpreters (Python, Perl, how about awk)?
If it doesn't have more than buzzwords, it probably won't have a positive impact on my productivity...
But for $89, I can always flash it back to PalmOS if it doesn't work out for me, right?
i'm guessing being a 3x clone, it'll have the standard 2 1/2" screen, instead of the rather small screen of my m100....25% at that size is a huge difference. I'm curious though, i have a copy of a palm OS rom, 4.5.....would I be able to flash the linux rom with a true palm OS (for testing purposes only, of course ; )
a linux palm sold mainstream is neat, but this is hardware compatible only . you still aren't getting the huge benifit of the palm os, which is the infinite supply of quick, useful and more importantly, FREE programs out there.
now you might say 'but this is nothing more than a simple organizer, it's not made to emulate game boy games and various other things, it is simply an electronic address book and datebook', it is, that's what my palm is used for for 90% of the time also, but i also enjoy the versatility of the (shudder) mainstream os, and it's ablity to download play with a new gam at will. avantgo is handy also. i think palm os program compatiblity would be a huge step up.
i'll probably get one anyways, the concept of programming and modifying the kernel of a device like that is too apetizing for me not to : )
moox. for a new generation.
its based on the uCLinux project - its got 2MB flash, 8MB RAM, and its a Motorola Dragonball, all the same as the uC project.
:) It runs on D-balls, StrongArms, MIPS, I'm sure soon stable ports will exist for the PSX and the PS/2....the only thing really missing on teh embedded front at this point are development tools...that said, the GPASM and Atmel tools for Linux are quite nice.
So when is linux gonna run on PIC's and Atmel AVR's?
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very fun feature indeed.
Are you sure you'd better buy Linux-based PDA just because it's linux-based and cheap? It will be your toy for a few weeks, and then you'll be desperately trying to sell it to somebody. OS and (to some extent) price don't matter here. These little things should be USABLE first of all. And if you need something usable NOW (not a couple of years later) - you'd buy either palm or pocketpc. Don't make a mistake. Define your priorities first.
Altogether, I'd stay away. If you want a nice, functional Linux PDA, take a look at the Agenda. HP also will be coming out with a real Linux PDA.
Oh, you mean that country in which is manufactured an absolute ton of stuff that gets rebranded and resold around the world? While you're up, could you check to see who created Linux and whether or not Microsoft products are annoying? I'd appreciate it.
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since slashdot wont let me post my goatse.cx ascii character...i will have to tell you about it using words
it was the original goatse man...but with a smiling face inside...of all places...his anus!
well, back to trolling...
is that the goatse man?....MOD IT UP!!!
Well, I don't know about anyone else but for me my PDA is very much a utilitarian tool - I do my playing on a regular computer. So I looked at Linuxda.com (noticed it wasn't open source, but neither is PalmOS), and then found the screen shots. First reaction is that the screens are a bit on the ugly side (although not terminally so), and that it passes some kind of sanity test of functionality. Hard to really know, but I can always hope that this will fulfill my dream of an appliance which Just Works (like I say, I futz around enough with my regular computer, and I don't regret that time, but I don't necessarily want that times 2).
like that linux pda...it will cost 500 dollars, and be just as good as the linux one
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I work for an online newspaper here in Norway, and I wanted the paper to test the first Linux PDA, Agenda. So I wrote to Agenda Computing asking for a press kit and a demo model. This was half a year ago. They haven't shown us a model yet, only e-mails assuring that it will be sent "next month". So, is Agenda dead?
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is that the goatse.cx man?... MOD IT UP!!!
show who is in charge of slashdot, us trollers!
now i can show off to those pricks in highschool that said i wouldnt amount to anything that i own a pda!! hehe, i cant wait to shove my "palm" in their faces!!
Next, I get to thinking about the Linux alternative. I like Linux, I've been using it for years, so I want to give it the benefit of the doubt. However, it has non-rechargable batteries, and they actually advertise "paint" and "CPU Speed" on their list of applications. For me, buying this would be purely an act of Linux patriotism. Perhaps a worthy idea but I don't have the extra cash for that.
Now I'm far from a Micro$oft lover but look at what they are doing.
- 802.11b
- VPN access
- video playback
- audio playback
- e-book reader
These are exactly the sort of things that I would love to add to a PDA. I can surf the web and read word docs from anywhere in my house, yard, or office. I guess asking for it to be small, have a rechargable battery that lasts a week, and to include a cell phone would be too much. Still, it seem like MS is going to own this market whether I like it or not. The good news is that the seem to be doing it by building the best products (according to me).That which does not kill me only makes me whinier
by EVAN WECKSELL
Special to The Observer
Adam Sandler is not even 35 years old, and he is already regarded as a comic legend. You know the story. It all started on "Saturday Night Live" in the early '90s. Operaman, Gap Girls, those Weekend Update features. Sandler went on to explore the movie and music industries where success followed. His most recent blockbuster was the summer comedy "Big Daddy."
In an almost as acclaimed recording career, he has had two double-platinum albums that showcase his comedic and musical abilities. He has given us characters such as "The Goat" and "Toll Booth Willie," along with the memorable lyrics of "The Thanksgiving Song" and "Ode to My Car." Sandler is one of the most bankable people in Hollywood. With the release of his latest comedy album, "Stan and Judy's Kid," Sandler features a collection of 11 new skits and six new songs. While I did laugh during a majority of selections, there were others where I found myself experiencing emotions that I had never associated with Sandler: confusion and boredom.
A majority of the buzz about this album deals with the release of "Chanukah Song, Part II" which was recorded at a Brandeis concert in 1997. The instrumentation and chords are the same, but the list of Jewish celebrities is all-new. (O. J. Simpson is the only celebrity brought back.) Because I saw that performance, I remember the crowd feeding off of every new line of lyric. Some of the new names are mentioned in this verse: "Guess who gives and receives loads of Chanukah toys/ The girls from Veruca Salt and all three Beastie Boys/ Lenny Kravitz is half Jewish, Courtney Love is half too/ Put them together, what a funky bad-ass Jew!"
A second song that comes from the Brandeis performance is a very simple, but likable, "Seven-Foot Man," featuring a bass line reminiscent of Willie DeVille's "Save the Last Dance for Me." The song's title is self-explanatory. Sandler plays the role of a seven-foot man and tells of some of the obstacles he faces in everyday life. However, none is quite as memorable as this call-and-answer verse: "Seven-foot man, I cannot hide/ Seven-foot man, I know 'cause I've tried/ Seven-foot man, my last girlfriend died/ Because my penis is seven-feet wide!"
Another standout selection is "She Comes Home to Me," which features a crooning Sandler backed up by the legendary big band of Frank Sinatra. The track was recorded live in Capitol Studio A, the birthplace of many of Sinatra's classics. However, Sinatra must be spinning in his grave right now due to Sandler's corruption of the band with an original and hilarious, but extremely raunchy, story of a woman who Sandler is proud to call his own despite her being a "highly paid whore." This song's lyrics make "At a Medium Pace" sound very tame. I tried to find a line in the song that was clean enough to print, but I came up empty-handed.
While most of the music on the album was enjoyable, a majority of Sandler's skits lacked inspiration and sounded out of sync. In the tradition of "The Buffoon" and "The Excited Southerner," Sandler inserts a recurring character on the album. This time it is "Cool Guy," a smooth-talking self-proclaimed stud who sounds similar to Tim Meadows' "Ladies' Man" character from SNL. In each of the five skits he is featured, "Cool Guy" is always on course to get some action until a reference to his penis causes his partner to exit abruptly. Apparently, women are appalled when men refer to their member as a "jimmer-jammer" or "flipstick."
A couple of other skits that ultimately serve as a waste of time are "Whitey" and "The Psychotic Legend of Uncle Donnie." These tracks get you to crack an occasional smile, but they go on for over 16 and 11 minutes, respectively. "Whitey" is the story of Whitey Duvall, a modern day hunchback of Notre Dame who makes conversation in the neighborhood, but Sandler does not divulge anything about his stature until about eight minutes in when the listener has already lost interest.
"The Psychotic Legend of Uncle Donnie" is even more disappointing, because the title of the skit anticipates a scene that is nothing more than a profanity-laced retelling of a very dysfunctional family's water-skiing adventure. A third dud in the sketch department is "The Peeper," another title that gains interest but does not deliver. Sandler narrates as the title character that cannot seem to speak more than one phrase at a time. The skit covers one of his peeping sessions that comes to a very predictable conclusion.
The lone exception to Sandler's poor sketch performance is found with "Inner Voice" because he successfully meshes his mature and immature self. In the skit, Sandler meets a girl at the Laundromat, and prior to hearing Sandler's dialogue, we hear the inner voice in the form of what I would call "Billy Madison gibberish." What made this selection work, unlike many of the others, was that Sandler played a normal, relaxed individual who was getting into an innocent conversation with a woman whom he eventually asks out. It was almost as if Sandler was not even acting, giving the skit a human element that was also found in his Laundromat scene in "Big Daddy."
Sandler is still one of the funniest people around, but this release will hinder his record career more than help it. This album had a handful of outrageous moments, but more often than not, I did not find myself laughing but rather thinking about how Sandler and his collaborators could call some of the skits humorous. If you are an avid Adam Sandler fan, "Stan and Judy's Kid" would not be a poor addition to your collection. But if you are searching for a stronger and wittier comedy album, you are better off picking up Chris Rock's "Bigger and Blacker" or even Weird Al Yankovic's "Running with Scissors."
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... it's as easy as finding a known hole and writing a program that exploits it, scans for more hosts and repeats. The only thing stopping it these days is Linux's smaller marketshare. (Worm propagation is one of those n squared problems). Especially if our goals of taking over the computing world are realized, Linux can and will be a prime target for the worm writers. What are we doing about it? Of course, admins should always keep up on the latest patches, but can we do anything about worms in the abstract sense?" Dispite the difficulties in starting a worm on a Unix clone, such a feat is still within the realm of possibility. Are there things that the Unix camp can be learning from Code Red and Nimbda?
michael on Saturday September 22, @12:58AM
from the things-to-lose dept.
Jacob writes: "I just ran across an article about a new Linux-based PDA called the Powerplay III Linux PDA. The PDA is manufactured in Taiwan but is being sold by Canadian Linux company, Empower. This PDA is Palm IIIxe compatible (dragonball processor), is shipped with Empower's Linux DA O/S, and get this: its only $89! I'll be getting one..." We mentioned this operating system a few weeks ago. They now have some sort of source download available, which seems like a step in the right direction.
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Beer In Space Posted by
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Saint Aardvark writes: "Check it out...NASA recently sent up an experiment to see how well beer could be brewed in space. The result? One millilitre of space brew. Can orbital microbrew be far behind?" They've been making great strides since our first Beer in Space article.
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Microsoft's Vision For Future Operating Systems Posted by
michael on Friday September 21, @06:15PM
from the one-world-one-operating-system dept.
Bender writes: "The Systems and Networking group at Microsoft Research has a fascinating article that details what sorts of things they believe may be important in Operating Systems of the 21st century."
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Senator Hollings and the SSSCA Posted by
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from the no-comment dept.
An Anonymous Coward writes: "You probably suspected some sort of "follow the money" thing was behind Sen. Fritz Hollings' support of SSSCA, the draft bill that would make using 'any interactive digital device that does not include and utilize certified security technologies' illegal in the U.S. This proposed law could effectively outlaw Linux and most Open Source software, depending on how judges interpret it. A NewsForge story details where Sen. Hollings' money comes from. Guess what? His biggest contributors are entertainment industry companies, their lawyers, and their lobbyists. The story also says Hollings and his staff refused to comment on the bill, and staffers the reporter talked to refused to even give their names." Newsforge and Slashdot are both part of VA Linux.
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XBox Delayed Posted by
michael on Friday September 21, @03:37PM
from the just-get-a-playstation-already dept.
rumrum writes: "From CNet: 'The company says it will delay the launch of its video game console by one week to Nov. 15 but declines to clarify exactly how many units it will have available at launch.'" AP has a slightly more informative article which points to production problems, and the LA Times has a story noting that production hasn't yet begun.
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Ask Slashdot: Is the Unix Community Worried About Worms? Posted by
Cliff on Friday September 21, @02:32PM
from the if-it-can-happen-in-Redmond dept.
jaliathus asks: "While the Microsoft side of the computer world works overtime these days to fight worms, virii and other popular afflictions of NT, we in the Linux camp shouldn't be resting *too* much. After all, the concept of a worm similar to Code Red or Nimda could just as easily strike Linux
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Developers: FreeBSD Ports for GNU/Linux Posted by
michael on Friday September 21, @01:20PM
from the thirty-two-tetris-variants-and-counting dept.
proclus writes: "GNU-Darwin has provided a special FreeBSD ports tarball (20 Mb) for GNU/Linux users. We have modified the FreeBSD Ports System to bring thousands of free software offerings within the reach of every GNU/Linux user. The system is not fully automated yet, but you can untar it in your home directory and try it. Just follow these directions. This system provides full access to the FreeBSD ports, so that users can compile and install software in their home directories. Root access is not required."
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Wireless Networks to Native Reservations Posted by
michael on Friday September 21, @12:30PM
from the saving-some-wampum dept.
akb writes: "Interesting article entitled Native Networking Trends: Wireless Broadband Networks describing a project which provided three Indian reservations near San Diego with wireless broadband connectivity. The collaboration between UC San Diego and the Southern California Tribal Chairman Association has attracted additional funding from HP's Digital Village Program doubling the original NSF allocation, which will allow the network to expand to connect 18 reservations to the Internet and educational facilities. The network sports a 45mbps wireless backbone with 802.11b uplinks." The HPWREN pages have a lot of interesting information, including specifications for their 45 megabit solar-powered relays.
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MS FrontPage Restricts Free Speech II (It's True!) Posted by
CmdrTaco on Friday September 21, @11:34AM
from the on-and-on-and-on dept.
A mild controvery occured yesterday in a story claiming Microsoft prohibits anti-ms speech if you use Frontpage. Here is a followup submitted by Reyacta from the original author: "Several readers have told me their
EULA for FrontPage 2002 does not contain the no-disparaging-MS
term, or that the term only applies to the FrontPage logo or to the
Web components like the MSNBC news headline component.
Just to be sure, this afternoon I went down to the store and bought
a copy of FrontPage 2002 myself. In the box was the "Microsoft
Frontpage 2002" license on a four-page folded sheet, titled "End- User License Agreement For Microsoft Software." Under Section
#1, Grant of License, the second paragraph headed "Restrictions"
states in part: "You may not use the Software in connection with
any site that disparages Microsoft, MSN, MSNBC, Expedia, or
their products or services, infringe any intellectual property or other
rights of these parties, violate any state, federal or international
law, or promote racism, hatred or pornography." (Not only a
stunning example of legal overreaching, in my opinion, but very
poor grammar as well.) It appears to me to clearly apply to use of
the program as a whole and not just the logo or Web components.
I suspect that there are different versions of the EULA of FrontPage
2002. Perhaps the license was updated for the most recent SKU,
or versions obtained through different channels don't yet have it.
I'm going to try to get Microsoft to clarify where this EULA does
and doesn't appear, but I'm not sure they will be very anxious to
provide me with that information.
Reply to Ed Foster."
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Book Reviews: Hacking Linux Exposed Posted by
timothy on Friday September 21, @10:15AM
from the pejorative-sense-of-the-word dept.
Reader Bob Johnson wrote this detailed review of Hacking Exposed followup Hacking Linux Exposed -- especially in light of the various color-coded Windows viruses still on the loose, this might be a good present for your your local Windows administrator as well, but both Bob and the authors are clear: GNU/Linux systems may be more resistant, but are not immune to cracking.
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Well, at first look the price does seem very impressive. However, for a brand new unit, I find the omission of an expansion slot somewhat glaring. I know I would definitely have paid extra for it.
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America defends its interests, sometimes skilfully, sometimes clumsily, just as other countries do. Since power, like nature, abhors a vacuum, it steps into places where disorder reigns. On the whole, it should do so more, not less, often. Of all the great powers in history, it is probably the least territorial, the most idealistic.
Muslims in particular should note that the armed interventions in Bosnia and Kosovo, both led by America, were attacks on Christian regimes in support of Muslim victims. In neither did the United States stand to make any material gain; in neither were its vital interests, conventionally defined, at stake.
Those who criticise America's leadership of the world's capitalist system--a far from perfect affair--should remember that it has brought more wealth and better living standards to more people than any other in history. And those who regret America's triumph in the cold war should stop to think how the world would look if the Soviet Union had won. America's policies may have earned it enemies. But in truth, it is difficult to find plausible explanations for the virulence of last week's attacks, except in the envy, hatred and moral confusion of those who plotted and perpetrated them.
Why is your head engulfed by flames?
I went to download the the demo for Palm Vx, and it's in .exe format. Argh.
I sent them a missive of complaint. You should too.
All the technology in the world won't hide your lack of vision, talent, or understanding.
I'm not sure if I need these guys/girls and their product. Not because they're Canadian, rather because I don't want to use a Palm clone running under linux. Me, I'd like to see a console window or X display above the CR field, not all those ugly Palm style buttons.
We hates Palms. Overpriced crap, really.
:wq
I tried to order one of these things and got an error generated by their page. I wouldn't think too much of this normallly except this is spuuposed to be a "linux" site and this is part of the error message:
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The error occurred while processing an element with a general identifier of (CFIF), occupying document position (276:4) to (276:104) in the template file D:\wwwroot\stargate\htdocs\cfm\linuxda\shipping.c
The specific sequence of files included or processed is:
D:\WWWROOT\STARGATE\HTDOCS\CFM\LINUXDA\SHIPPING
Why is a "linux" site running on a windoze server?
..if you want a real Linux PDA, the Agenda VR3 is the way to go. It's designed from the ground up for Linux, and 100% open-source.
I just recieved mine a few days ago because I thought it would be a cool toy, not expecting it to to useful as a PDA. Fortunately it is useful for both, however. If you've read negative reviews of the VR3 indicating otherwise, keep in mind that the system has improved greatly since the initial release.
A few good and bad points to keep in mind if you're thinking of getting one:
The good:
The bad:
-Karl
Sounds good. What features are available for it?
To moderators: think before you mod this down - is it really offtopic or trollness?
how far can this thing really go unless it's running a standard OS?
i know i'm about to be slammed and flamed, but isn't PalmOS far and away the industry standard OS for handeld devices?
Where exactly does this website give a drop of information on the PDA? All I see is "Linux PDA" on the front page and the PDA itself in their online store.
Maybe it will run as fast as my Agenda PDA with that tiny Dragonball CPU! NOT! put an extra 70 bucks with it and buy a b&w Ipaq and get a real CPU! You can even put lunix on it!
Don't mod me, bro'!!!!
As someone said, the price is right. Well, that means hobbyists such as myself will easily fork out the $89 to play around with it. Will we be able to do anything useful with it remains to be seen. Its the software that differentiates a toy from a utility.
I eagerly purchased the Agenda VR and am woefully disappointed with the quality of software that comes with it. It takes forever to launch any application and locks up within minutes.
The essence of the palm, IMHO, was its simplicity and consequently, its reliable applications. Most people use it for address-book and calendar. These two simple utilities on a relatively stable version of the kernel will go a really long way in making a useful product.
The price of the box will encourage a lot of people around the world to buy it. A few innovative software developers might then be able to put together a few more useful applications.
If you looking for alternative pda that runs linux then check agendacomputing.com. they have sweet little pda using strong arm processor. it runs X. porting apps is a snap, all it needs is recompile. it little more price but it offers more features.
If you shop around, you can get a mono iPAQ for less than twice the price.
-russ
Don't piss off The Angry Economist
Hussein approached the US ambassador to Iraq, April Glaspie, and asked her "What if we took Kuwait? Would the US care?" She said I'll get right back. Her reply? "Go ahead, do what you want, we have no compelling interest here." That's from her congressional testimony!
So like daddy, like son? Very possibly we may have been suckered again.
Look at that thing. It's truely a disgrace. It looks exactly like a palm but it has 2 more buttons in the graffiti area. It's really just copying palm, which has been attempted before. I also remember reading a news article about linux for the Palm, though they hadn't made a version compatible with the IIIc is why I didn't get it. I have since sold my 3c and have gone with the ipaq h3650. It's a solid handheld other than the windows part of it. It's somewhat light, it does enough color for what I need, it has a fairly good speaker, earphone plug, and IS compatible with linux. Did I forget to mention the sweet 206 mhz processor and 32 mb ram? Oh, and while we are on the topic of processors, I seem to remember a palm having that same processor. What did they do, take a palm and put a different cover on it and call it their own model? Come on everyone, lets get atleast SOME originality. The Linux DA os even LOOKS like palm, and I haven't really been happy with the small screens and software of palm. They aren't even multitasking. Also, from what I hear, the Agenda has many good qualities too.
So are these things overstocked/extra palm devices with a new case and software? For the price, I'd bet that's what they are.
Has anyone actually touched one of these things? How similar is it to a Palm III?
Remember Lexington Green!
After all, that's probably what Palm is doing with BeOS now... I can't wait to see what comes out.
What we call folk wisdom is often no more than a kind of expedient stupidity.-Edward Abbey
For 89 bucks, and it's the equal of a palm IIIx? Hell, my visor doesn't even have flash memory.
If the hardware's palm-compatible, one could, I imagine, grab the rom out of a real IIIx and jam it in there. rock.
What we call folk wisdom is often no more than a kind of expedient stupidity.-Edward Abbey
Can I get in on some of this something fun too? I would love to have one/some of that
I'm one of the "good software can make up for cheap hardware" camp. Flame on, whatever.
I'd probably buy one of these. If the introductory price is $89, that means it could fall, too.
I speculated that something like this might occur when PCChips, a motherboard manufacturing company that creates a lot of cheap, sexy form factor all-in-one boards, released their EPD30 model PDA. I purchase PCChips motherboards exclusively for use in my machines, and if this PDA is one made by them, I'll definitely purchase it, to support my favorite cheap-ass hardware manufacturing company. It certainly looks similar, from the one tiny picture I've found of it.
One reason I'm fond of PCChips is that they tend to use hardware that is standardized and usually has had its documentation published by the manufacturer. (SiS advertises themselves as "supporting linux".) Which means it's only a matter of time and code before it can work with an open-source operating system, and you don't get locked into using bastardized proprietary shit that you have to kowtow with an open wallet at some big industry CEO to get at. And if you have the skills, you can improve the way your system works just by writing and installing software.
Looks like it comes with a hotsync cable, not a cradle. Cool! I'm all for cheaper products through less extraneous plastic.
Does anybody have a more thourough review or better pictures of the hardware?
-Mike
Yes, I'm a masochistic software developer with a cheap hardware fetish. You probably wouldn't understand.
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A lot of people on here are say that there are no apps, and why would you buy one of these. I haven't been a big proponent of linux PDAs for home users. However, businessed have a needs that involve to rolling out PDAs to their employees, and in these cases, linux PDAs are the best fit. Since there is little licensing involved in the OS, they can typically beat a Palm or CE device by $50. When you have to roll out to a couple hundres people, that can make a difference, especially with todays budgets. Since the software typically has to be custom built anyways, the number of native applications doesn't matter. In fact, sometime less apps is better, since people are then using their PDAs for their work.
-no broken link
Well, if they are using uclinux, and
uclinux is "The first Linux compatible O/S scaled down for the Motorola Dragonball CPU platform."
Then the, by extention are also using "The first linux...."
Royal Davinci sells a pda for 80 dollars. You can find it at Ciccuitcity.
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It's $89! Come on! You're comparing it to a $600 pocket PC! I own a Thinkpad T22 and in my opinion your pocket PC is a peice of shit by comparison. Get the point?
There's underfunding, and then there's underfunding. If the operation just has a few flaky aspects here and there, well, OK, maybe they're just concentrating their money where it can do the most good.
But if they're leaving huge garbage files in their source tree -- and distributing same -- they obviously have problems in their R&D, QA, and Integration departments.
In fact, if a company has a slick exterior, but makes a lot of bad engineering mistakes, I'd be very wary of them. Especially if they claim to be able to sell Linux-based, Palm-Compatible PDAs for a hundred bucks! These are all symptoms of a company that is making all kinds of absurd plans in the hope that it will attract funding.
I just installed the LinuxDA demo on my Palm IIIxe. Here are some observations.
First off, The demo is very annoying. About every 15-20 seconds, a message that takes up the entire screen pops up and says, "LinuxDa... a demo copy for limited use... blah blah". I seriously don't think this stuff is GPL. Their license is on their site here.
Second, the UI sucks. I'm not sure why Linux UI implementations have to be so cumbersome. But this one is no different. The drop-down menus are hard-to-control. Often times, selecting a drop-down menu item requires several taps. The UI is 'Palm-like', but it fails horribly in a few key areas of navigability.
Third, I have sent an email off to LinuxDA asking them if they have a shell interface to the RAM filesystem. The demo doesn't have one. Their 'full' version doesn't appear to have one, either. I also asked about whether or not LinuxDA has a TCP/IP stack, or ethernet support. Again, I saw nothing like that in the demo or in the specs of their full version.
So far, my conclusion is thumbs down. I don't like it. Yeah, its Linux, but it sucks right now.
If they give me a shell. If they give me a TCP/IP stack, and ethernet support... then I'm on board. I'm not sure what good Linux on a handheld is without those three things.
Let me get this straight. Under Linux, everything is a file, and with a PDA, there are no files. How does this work? Yup, I may have misunderstood one of these.... :)
Why does the OS matter if you only get apps? Or do you get a command line? I didn't find mention of that in the article or their website.
"Be thankful you are not my student. You would not get a high grade for such a design
I had the same wait time when I pre-ordered my Handspring Visor, it was well worth the wait.
It was the longest 6-8 weeks of my life though!
This is where I keep my clever quotes "" Yup I only got a pair, so I better not waste em!
This is not the first Linux PDA we're promised.
I remember Yopy, which made me drrol just with the bare specs. But what has happened to the Yopy in the meantime? Does anyone know? I'd still love to get one (but a production version, not the developer kit !)
speaking as an agenda VR3 developer owner:
8MRAM/2MFLASH WAY too little for linux (same spec as Agenda)
16MHz 16 bit processor: slower than death v. 75MHz MIPS R4000 in Agenda which is a significantly superior processor.
other items:
Palm IIIxe comaptibility? WTF does this mean?
2-AAAs good, I HATE!!!!! rechargeables.
Overall:
wait for Sharp's Zaurus. This will be the REAL linux handheld... especially since YOPY became vaporware. More RAM, more FLASH, more horsepower, color, Java, at least a spurt of high cash Japanese conglomeration support/subsidizing, etc.
Is this truly 240x320? Screenshots look like 160x160. The review may contain false info.
Despite what /.'ers have been saying about this particular model, a Linux PDA at this price actually sounds pretty interesting. 320*240 screen res, Motorola processor, non-Windows operating system... it's like Amiga all over again ;)
I still think that PDAs are primarily marketed for business use, though, when there's a huge nerd market waiting to be tapped.
I mean, just looking at the picture of the PDA, it's so obviously a business device - apps shown in the screenshot include Memo, Schedule, and what appears to be a minesweeper clone. When would you ever use something like those on a PDA? I wanna see a USENET reader, a mailer, Telnet, Lynx, perhaps even a text editor and FTP combo so I can write my weblog on the move...
At $89, it's competing with the GBA for my hard-earned cash and Pokémon vs Minesweeper really is no contest...
Personally, I'd spend the extra $30 & get a proven PDA. That seems a lot easier to justify than $100 on some unknown with what sounds like a clunky interface.