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Lord of the Rings Theatrical Trailer
BadmanX writes: "The brand new Lord of the Rings trailer that ran on several shows tonight (including the season premier of Angel) is available for download from Apple's Quicktime site." Hmmm. Mirrors definitely needed.
http://www.tolkien-movies.com/media/officialtraile rs.shtml
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As far as I can tell, that only links to Apple's site... please prove me wrong if you can.
-- If no truths are spoken then no lies can hide --
I'm not entirely sure if this is still the case, but my buddy working on the FX for this was saying that alot of the stuff in the previous trailers was made specially for them. So the spoilage would be kept to a minimum and guys like me who saw the Phantom Menace trailer and wish we hadn't seen the movie won't be disappointed.
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oh sh*t, i lied!
:-(
follow the link and it just takes you to the apple site
big DOH
however, it does have a scene by scene account with pictures here:
http://www.theonering.net/
Yes, i know its not the same, but it looks pretty cool just from the pics....
and i've already been modded up, based on false info.
;-)
I feel like a cheap karma whore now (probably true
Anyways, mod me back down if you feel angered by this....
Soz all.
This, of course, was the 1st draft of Dubya's speech last week. Glad he toned it down.
Nothing there but the old trailer..
-- If no truths are spoken then no lies can hide --
... I bet Jobs is sitting at a desk somewhere just watching hits pile up and giggling like a school girl at all the people trying to watch.
Damn you! Damn you for toying with out hopes and emotions!!! *sob* Don't you think next time it might be a good idea to use something more powerful than an LCIII and an Appletalk cable for a web server, you sadistic bastard!?!?!
/me bangs head on desk/
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Honestly -- this isn't a troll. I know we all read the books, but I can't quite grok how much of the anticipatory hype is grass-roots and how much is media manipulation. (I also recall a similar feeling before the release of "Dune", so I don't wanna get my hopes up too much).
I'm surprised that it is being hosted by Sorenson when most of the Quicktime trailers are usually hosted at akamai.net and the later usually fairs bit better.
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If you are in search for more information - I highly recommend TheOneRing.net. It's a really cool site, updated very often.
As I understand it - though I'm not the fantasy buff I used to be - Tolkein actually wrote the Lord of the Rings as a by-product of his experimentations and work on socio-linguistics. His work on developing what is known, to fans and readers of the Lord of the Rings, as the Elven language which is spoken by Galadriel and also by Elrond (and others as well). You can generally find reasonable notes by Tolkein in the back of the books on how to decipher the script. What will be interesting - with this in mind - is how closely the movie will keep to Tolkein's intended pronunciation, and also how they will deal with the songs that are used as ambience at the council of Elrond. The songs however arent actually spoken during the council, but are inserted by Tolkein for background to the story of the legends behind the quest beginning. But it looks promising so far !!
It's all freaking simple, people.
shut up man
Well I could plagiarize it for the free karma, or I could just point out the obvious and mention there is a ten page feature in this month's Wired about Tolkien the man, the author, the professor, his books, his legacy... and why this movie is going to be such a big f**king deal.
hell, half the posts i have read already quote it word for word... interestingly without giving credit...
search Morpheus for "fellowshipoftherings_fs.mov"
it's the full screen version, and *hell*yes*it*rocks*
I've throttled the max uploads to save myself, if you get it, spread it around...
Because any such attempt would have been smashed to pulp by Sauron's own army. Also, the nature of the ring is such that those who possess it for any length of time, however short are unable to destroy it. Sauron, in his lust for the ring was unable to imagine that anyone would want to destroy it. Thus the decision was to try and sneak the ring into Mordor. That means low key, powerful elves with magic swords aren't exactly low key.
Also there was an element of fate in it. Elrond said as much in the council. I'd give you a quote now but my copy of LOTR is an 8 hour flight away and I can't recall it off the top of my head.
That's my (in my opinion) pathetic attempt to answer your question. Hope it helped.
Modern Humorists take on it all... http://modernhumorist.com/mh/0101/rings/
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Yup, the pronunciation is always fun, fits in with that whole thing about reading a book first and having the film shatter your imagined choices on how the characters would look and talk...
It will be dead funny as per usual for all the heroes to have American accents (though I guess the money came from the USA and they made the film so why not, and it's no more or less valid than any other accent). The best bit though is I hear a lot of the filming was done in New Zealand, for the big scenes they pretty well rounded up anybody who could ride a horse to be in it, some of our pals got jobs. So, imagine the scene from the film:
A battle, outside the gates of Mordor (or summink)...
Gandalf (our hero, in a Texas accent): "I will vanquish thee, oh evil spawn of darkness, back to whence thy came!"
Evil orc dressed in gothicky black wielding dead big axe (in broad Kiwi accent): "No worries mate! Choice!"
Not sure what the answer is but it always cracks me up...
The forces of Mordor would have crushed the army. The might of Gondor had been waning for decades -- the nations were much much weaker than they were at the battle of the Last Alliance. You will see this at the scene "The Black Gate Opens" (probably near the start of the third film), and perhaps sooner if they play it up.
The only way to victory lay in sneaking undetected into Orodruin and depositing the ring. The hobbits were chosen because they were hardy and the most likely to overcome the temptation of the ring. Gandalf, Elrond, Galadriel etc. declined to take on the ring because they thought they would be unable to resist the temptation to use it.
Also, the elves had departed from the affairs of men after the Last Alliance (it wasn't call the _Last_ one for no reason). Many of them had already departed Middle-Earth; there were only a few left and they certainly had no plans to engage in a war.
Why not something open and widespread like MPEG, MPEG2 or MPEG4? That way people on all kinds of platforms can see it without having to install crap software.
Well, actually.. quicktime is less crappy than windoze mediaplayer.
Second, believe it or not but the official MPEG4 standard is based on.... quicktime!!!
Not that not standardised crap like DVIX or so.
http://homepage.mac.com/johnemdall/.Movies/lotr-tv 240.mov
Speaking as one who eagerly stood by with the remote last night, waiting to tape the preview as it came on, and watching my wife literally jump up and down in excitement when it did, this is a big thing.
This is the fantasy story that started a whole genre. Try and find a fantasy novel today that doesn't have _some_ type of resemblance to LOTR. It can be done, but it isn't easy. I started reading the books for the first time when I was 10, and I haven't stopped since. They are that good.
The reason everyone is so excited by this is that, as far as we've been able to determine, they're doing it right. The casting looks right. The look of the characters, of the land, of the people (elves, dwarves, hobbits, wizards), looks right. It looks like they're finally going to make this story get up, and walk out of the pages of the book, and work on the big screen.
In regard to casting, I think they made an excellent choice by NOT casting big stars -- this way the audience doesn't have a preconcieved notion of who the actors are, and can see them as only Tolkien's characters. In much the same way that Mark Hamill will always be Luke Skywalker, and Carrie Fisher will always be Princess Leia, I suspect that these actors will be typecast by this movie.
Another reason people are excited is that the state of special effects has finally arrived to the point where the special effects can be seamlessly integrated into the movie. We can watch Gandalf fighting the Balrog without being impressed by how real the Balrog looks, or by how impressively they were able to model the caverns. We've become used to seeing the impressive effects, and we can now watch them as part of the movie, without wondering how they're done, or being jarred by their unreality.
With regard to the screenplay, we already know that they've decided to take a bit of license with the story line, and increase Arwen's role (she's a lead character's love interest). They decided to do so because she really doesn't have much of a role in the story -- with the possible exception of Galadrial, no female character does. I personally don't think it'll be a big problem, and if it's the only concession they're making to the "normal" movie going public (as opposed to the geeks & uber geeks that are eagerly watching every move leading up to this production), I'll be happy.
I also recall a similar feeling before the release of "Dune", so I don't wanna get my hopes up too much.
Dune wasn't the same - I don't think we'll ever see a really good theatrical interpretation of Dune (the recent Sci-Fi channel series was pretty good, but I still think it missed a lot). The reason for that is that Dune is a very complex story. There is a lot of background, a lot of character development, and a different culture to assimilate. LOTR is essentially a good vs. evil story. The story line is very simple. We won't have to worry about extensive flashbacks, or narratives to explain complex plot points. There are good guys, and bad guys. The bad guys appears stronger, but the good guys eventually win in the end. That means that it will translate a heck of a lot better into a movie medium.
I'm really looking forward to this movie.
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1. Get Morpheus.
- tv 240.mov
2. Install and run it.
3. Select "Video" and search for "Lord of the rings"
4. then you should be able to get in a few mins. The problem is figuring out what the hell the file is called.
With apples shit site, I have to upgrade to a new version of quicktime, which took me forever and it still doesn't work. I wanted to get the zip file from the sorensen server... but it's dead.
... or you can just view the file here:
http://homepage.mac.com/johnemdall/.Movies/lotr
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Well, actually.. quicktime is less crappy than windoze mediaplayer.
Well, that's a matter of taste, really. I don't think either of them are particularly great. Same with RealWhatever. Roll on DiVX and MPEG!
Second, believe it or not but the official MPEG4 standard is based on.... quicktime!!!
IIRC, they didn't use the codec, just the data format. Most QT movie trailers use the Sorenson codec.
Personally, I think they should release trailers in as many format as possible. MPEG1, MPEG4, WinMedia, Real and QT. Cover all the bases, and you get some form of inherent mirroring as well (MSN would host the WM on their site, Apple would host the QT, and so on)
Thanks to all those posting links to tolkien-movies.com and Ain't it Cool News, but the trailers they have from Sept 6th are not the same as the one from last night, Sept. 24th.
:-).
To my knowledge none of the mirror sites have it yet (although that could change). TheOneRing.Net just posts a link to the broken Apple/Sorenson server. They may be available on the Morpheous/Kazaa network; I'm at work and haven't been able to check. I'd post a mirror, too, except I haven't been able to get the latest trailer myself
"He's more machine now than man, twisted and evil."
"Choose providers who can handle this sort of load balancing, like Akamai."
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Here's the HTML of the link to the file:
<a href="http://squeeze.sorenson.com/video/fellowshi
Note that they ARE using Akamai -- for the 449 byte image used for the link. It's only the 30 Meg movie that's on the dial-up iMac.
You haven't used a quicktime player lately, have you? Even the slow, bloated, WMP 7 is better than *that*. I'm running WMP 6 right now and it takes me less than 2 seconds to go from double-click to start of movie. Quicktime takes longer than that just to *load*, and the quality is almost invariably worse.
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In any case, this is a great partnership idea from Apple's standpoint. I'm not sure what their end of the bargain was for the exclusive QT5 release, but I sure hope it wasn't handling the distribution, because if that's the case, New Line got the short end of that stick.
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Actually, they will be increasing Arwen's role in the movies. She will replace Glorfindel at the Fords of Bruinen, and I wouldn't be surprised if she joins Aragorn just before the Paths of the Dead (along with Elladan, Elrohir, Halbarad, et al). And, of course, putting the two of them together during the War of the Ring would require expanding the love story a bit. All the events in the appendix you mentioned occur *prior to* the War.
It's always a long day... 86400 doesn't fit into a short.
I mirrored the Large version (480x204), it's 18MB. If I find the fullscreen version I'll put it up there too. Grab it here:
;)
http://lotr.infernix.net/
Note: PLEASE SATURATE THIS LINK.
I repeat: PLEASE SATURATE THIS LINK.
It's our (yet) unused new uplink and I'd like to stress-test it.
Thanks
infernix
Also, can you imagine trying to mobilise a force of ents for this purpose? Hoom...
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Actually, the truth was they were overbudget already, and could only afford cheap hobbit contractors.
Sharron and Tracey are the whiny, bitchy girlfriends of Sauron. See, they didn't know about each other, then Sharron saw Tracey leaving Minas Morgul one day and figured out that Sauron was two-timing her. So then, in order to quiet her down, Sauron had to give her a ring and promise to marry her. She didn't want just any ring, she wanted the One Ring. So Sauron had to send out his Riders to find the Ring. (They were all glad to get out, Sharron's whining was getting on their nerves.) Of course, I've given away about 90% of the movie now, but the ending where Tracey shows up and there's this big oil wrestling finale between her and Sharron is worth the price of admission alone.
I'm 24 and reading LOTR for the first time. I was hesitant at first because fantasy books arent really my thing but I'm actually enjoying the read. When I was younger the size of the books would have put me off (even though I was an avid reader), but now I'm able to approach it as both a first-time reader and as an educated individual. Now I see why there's such a following, the characters don't have a huge amount of depth just yet but it's easy to identify with them.
Once I finish with the book(s) I'll see the movies, the order things were intended to happen. Perhaps the movies will add to the story instead of destroying it like so many other book-into-movie projects.
Use Limewire, what I think is the best and now open source gnutella client.
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Search on fellowshipofthering
several t3 speed sites have it....
Although I haven't tried it with this movie yet, you might want to check out Codeweavers' CrossOver Plugin. It's a hacked version of WINE that serves as an environment for running MS Windows plugins on x86 Linux. Costs $20 or $30 if I recall. I'll give it a try tonight on this particular clip and post a followup regarding success (assuming I remember to do it, am successful at downloading the clip, etc).
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How about another idea. When files like LOTR trailers, Counter-strike updates,, or new Quake engine game tests are released, the few mirrors (usually just fileplanet) are bogged down to almost nothing. If you somehow are able to get the file early, then post it to a binary newsgroup and then post on the forums where it is located. There can be no better mirror than a local server...your news server! I did this for the HL and CS updates recently and got a ton of thank you replies. I tried to get it from fileplanet before I found a small mirror elsewhere and started at like 650 in line with 80 minutes to *start* the download.
Cave, wreck, and deep diver.
The 480x204 version i grabbed from Morpheus starts with the golden ring and a lot of fire. It's nothing more than a quicktime movie.
:)
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The fullscreen version starts with a storyteller while viewing a horse and wagon walking on a bridge. It's 2:51 long and has a nice progress bar (some Quicktime feature I think).
I think the 480x204 version is some other (older?) trailer, but one thing is for sure:
The FULLSCREEN version and the 480x204 version on my mirror http://lotr.infernix.net/ are DIFFERENT!
And I like the fullscreen one a whole lot better, so you better get 'em both
Regards,
infernix
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you people want this to spread? then share this file on morpheus or kazaa? you talk about p2p and not restricting free sharing, but the file isnt on there, except for 2 people.. out of 65k+ people?
share the original file, then it will spread quickly!
fellowshipoftherings_fs.mov
Second, when have you EVER seen a good fantasy movie? There are legions of people who have grown up on Tolkien, Dungeons and Dragons (and its assorted spawn), and King Arthur, but never has a truly good movie been made with these elements. Excalibur was passable, I think (or maybe I just think that because it's one of the first movies I saw with nudity as a pre-teen), but this has the potential to be downright GOOD.
Those are the reasons I'm interested in it anyway.
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Hey, think of it like shipping work overseas... the Shire is obviously backwards compared to (uh... wheverever it is the Elves are from).
I mean, jeez, they just picked up the ring and stomped off. Did you hear word one about health benefits? If I were going to stomp through Sauron's turf with the one thing he wanted most of all, damn straight I'd be asking about death and dismemberment benefits.
Then what do you cut?
Art is about constraints. Moviemakers have different contraints than book writers. Peter Jackson gets to use CGI, but Tolkein didn't. Tolkein got to use hundreds of pages for whatever he wanted, but Jackson has time limits carved in stone. Something has to give, and whoever is doing it, has hard choices to make. I guess Jackson's choices were different than yours. Probably after I see the movie, I'll decide his choices were different than mine too. But it's really a no-win situation; no matter what he cuts, it's going to make someone unhappy.
Maybe it is theoretically possible to make a 30 hour LOTR movie that has everything from Tolkein's story and is all things to all fans. But that wouldn't fit the patterns and traditions (as arbitrary as they may be) for theatrical movies, which means that even then it won't be all things to all people: it won't serve the people who are funding it.
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Thanks for the site, it's nice and fast, but why did you have to name it like that? I makes it difficult to download with a command line ftp client...
http://www.psychosis.net/lotr/fellowshipoftherings _fs.movm ov
and
http://lotr.infernix.net/fellowshipoftherings_fs.
I know there are some minor changes (Sorry Tom Bombadil), but I believe the movie follows the book's plot pretty closely.
Phantom Menace was a different deal. The trailer showed the fabulous visuals, but didn't clue you in to the fact that the plot sucked and the dialog was lame. With FOTR, we know the story is great. The trailer sure shows that the visuals are great, too.
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Honestly, I am so disappointed that the story is altered. I don't want to go see what some hollywood producer wants to say -- I want to see what the author has to say.
You can -- by reading the originals. Tolkein didn't make movies, he wrote books, and thus there is no way that a movie could possibly be "what the author had to say." The movie is a different work of art, created by different people.
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I got the fellowshipoftherings_fs.mov file. I watched and enjoyed it. However, is there a way to remove the border, buttons (e.g. volume, start, exit), etc.? I would like to watch the trailer in true full screen. I am using Winblows 98 with QuickTime v5.0.2.
:)
Thank you in advance for a reply.
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As the trailer is not 4:3, you'll get black bars where the UI is unless you have an Apple Cinema Display or something similarly rectangular.
Anyway, if you have QT player Pro, you can turn off that stuff by choosing 'Enable Tracks' from the 'Edit' menu, and turning off everything but 'Video 1' and 'Sound 1'. Then you can play full screen with Present Movie.
Attribution of that second quotation to Oppenheimer is incorrect. Oppenheimer was quoting from memory from the Mahabharata (specifically, from the Bhagavad Gita). The Mahabharata is attributed to Sage Vyasa, among others.
And actually, Oppenheimer quoted it as "the Shatterer or Worlds."
Eloi, Eloi, lema sabachtani?
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There is no support for the sorenson codec for linux.
Apple OWNS the licensing rights to the codec, and they are doing EVERYTHING they can to retain control of video distribution on the internet. They have NOT released Quicktime for linux, unix, FreeBSD, or anything other than Windows and MacOS. Nor will they.
Quicktime supports many codecs, and few are protected like the Sorenson codec. Apple uses this specifically, because there are other equally good unprotected codecs in use. So they KNOW a priori that when they get something released using the Sorenson codec, then the consumer may only view it using software that Apple chooses to provide. And they choose to provide NOTHING for linux.
Xanim, for example, is a quicktime player for linux. But whereas it can play Radius and Intel codecs, it cannot play apple sorenson codecs.
And that is how Apple wants it. Contacts with Sorenson result in them stating bluntly that Apple has ALL the rights. I am wholely against patent protection of common media distribution format. It was screwed up with GIFs, and it is screwed up with Quicktime.
If someone could save the movie as an MPEG, I would be mighty thankful. I really want to see it, but I do not have access to a Sorenson compatible Quicktime viewer.
Or so I hear anyway (someone knows more?)
What can we do about it? Nothing. I know it sucks. If someone has any constructive idea... (And no, modding down as 'troll' someone who's just rightfully angry doesn't count as 'constructive' in my book. Sorry.)
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Just got home and confirmed it. With the CrossOver plugin installed, I just opened the .mov file with Netscape Navigator (I assume it would work
with Mozilla, Galeon, etc too) and it played flawlessly.
This situation is, of course, not as good as them using a standard codec, but at least x86 Linux users do have a way to watch it.
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Alas, no. It is commercial software available from CodeWeavers.
As I understand it, revenue from the sales of this plugin is an important source of funding for their work on the WINE project. So if you want to help WINE or if you really want to see Sorensen QTs (and other things) play on x86 Linux or you just want to marvel at a hack, and $20 isn't too much for you, head over to their web site with your credit card number and you'll be downloading it in just a few minutes.
If $20 is too much for "just a browser plugin" and WINE development is not of interest to you or you refuse to "pollute" your system with non-free software, then CrossOver will not be useful to you.
As with many things, we all share the powers and responsiblities.
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It requires the Windows version.
I do not own a copy of Windows.
If you do not own or license a Microsoft or Mac operating system, you cannot play the Sorenson codec Quicktime movies. There are no work-arounds that are free.
It would be against patent law otherwise.
It is true that it requires the Windows version of the plugin. But you do not need a copy of Windows in order to use it. Codeweavers' installation software will help you download (or if you buy the CrossOver CD, it comes on that) the Windows version of the plugin, and then it will install that plugin for you, into it's weird hacked internal WINE environment.
Not true. I do not own or license (or pirate) MS (and didn't use anything from my MacOSs that I have sitting around somewhere), and I played Sorenson codec Quicktime movies on my x86 Linux box.
That is correct, as far as I know. CrossOver is not Free.
Nay. While it is true that no one can independently implement a Sorenson decoder w/out breaking patent, there's nothing in patent law that prohibits what Codeweavers did: write an OS emulator wrapper, so that you run Apple's licensed decoder for MS Windows under Linux.
IMHO what they did was very clever, and it's a way of using/abusing WINE that I never would have thought of. ..Which is why I'm shamelessly plugging this plugin all over this thread. :-)
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Honestly, I am so disappointed that the story is altered. I don't want to go see what some hollywood producer wants to say -- I want to see what the author has to say.
Peter Jackson, a Hollywood producer? *snicker* Yeah, he's a regular Mr Hollywood. Have you seen his films? None of them say "Hollywood" in the least to me.
And if you thought the story was going to stay verbatim, you're silly. No-one is ever going to make a movie from a book that everyone's happy with. A picture may paint a thousand words, but give a thousand words to a number of painters, and no two paintings will be exactly the same.
In the end, you're a storyteller. You've got a story to tell, and a limited amount of time to tell it in. Peter Jackson knows the story, loves the story, and realises there's a lot of fans out there who love the story just as much as he does (if not more). He's got a story that needs to be told, but he knows he can't tell it exactly the same way as Tolkien did. Different media, different constraints.
Some of those hard decisions are going to piss people off, no matter what he does, but I'm fairly confident that he's trying to make the best damned movies he can. Anything else would be in Bad Taste, and completely Brain Dead. If you want to see what the author has to say, read a book.