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GNU Carnivore With Perl Data Lookup
Kallahar writes: "Inspired by the FBI's DCS1000: Carnivore is a networked art project in two parts. The first part is Carnivore Server, an application which performs packet-sniffing on a specific local area network and serves the resulting data stream via the net. The second part consists of an unlimited number of client applications which tap into this data stream and interpret it in creative ways."
I always love art that is based on chaotic systems. It's really cool how order can arise from chaos, and vice-versa.
I will type for a few seconds...
Strom Thurmond; the dean of the US Senate...
the deadest fart on slashdot.
turd wranglers!
2562371th post.
Darn. I hate this new # system.
Just how "creative" is this system going to be? Is it going to be the intruiging kind of creative, or the exploitable kind of creative?
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I thought Carnivore was a really bad packet sniffing program used by the FBI to monitor terrorist cells. Has GNU been infiltrated? Or are they simply showing their stripes?
"STOP IT!"
awww, fuck
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FP Bitches
"performs packet-sniffing on a specific local area network"
lets hope no one is look at naughty pictues... might give an effect which is less than random, and a bit more 18+
Cruise TT
One of the critiques that I've seen of the FBI's Carnivore was that it required an ISP to install a "black box" on their network about which the ISP knew very little.
Would an open source Carnivore be more palatable to the ISP community? The privacy implications remain, of course, but if the U.S. government adopted an open source program would ISPs be more willing to implement it?
** The opinions expressed here are my own, and do not reflect those of my employers - past, present, or future**
This is going to get someone in A LOT of trouble!
Geekizoid is owned by the Jews..
Seriously, it's hosted in Tel Aviv, Israel.
The Jews have taken over the troll and crapflood community. OMFG. Those bastards control the media and everything. And now they own the trolls and crapflooders. This is fucking horrible.
On November 17th, a draft version of a review of Carnivore, the FBI tool for monitoring Internet traffic, was made available to the public. This review was performed by members of the ITT Research Institute in Lanham, Maryland and is 127 pages long. In the Executive Summary, the review makes several recommendations for ways in which Carnivore must be improved, in order to protect individual privacy and assuage concerns about the potential for unauthorized use.....
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In other words, they found a flawed product, which can currently be easily manipulated to gather information beyond that authorized in a court order. They believe the flaws are fixable and have made recommendations as to what needs to be done, including eventually releasing the source, but not until some glaring security problems have been fixed first.............
Read on here:
http://www.lwn.net/2000/1207/security.php3
Cruise TT
I have to say, I am severely disappointed that they don't have a Matrix-style display. To have a realistic matrix display that contains real information about network data would just rock. Warm and fuzzy all over.
Dacels Jewelers can't be trusted.
If you are nervous about your messages being intercepted, get yourself a implementation of PGP and use it religiously. If you are really feeling paranoid, get the source code to 'Gnu Privacy Guard' and compile your own copy.
I am part-owner of one ISP, and know personally top network administrators for at least a dozen other providers, both major and minor. None of them have 'Carnivore' or other government-mandated software or hardware on their networks.
The Feds did make a one-time request of several major providers to scan their logs for email with a certain set of 'From' addresses, but there is no new ongoing traffic analysis at individual ISPs.
There is absolutely no privacy left on the Net any more. None. Keep that in mind when you rant. That's what crypto is for. Ranting on Slashdot is by it's very nature, about as public as you can get.
get it on.
Coudn't this count as an attempt to reverse-engineer the communication protocol of networked applications and therefore be breaking the DMCA??
Seems to me this is more about the programmer creatively setting up a was for a computer to place overlayed text or randomly grabbed images into a layout. I don't see the computer making many of the artistic decisions, except maybe applying the color wheel maybe?
Posiks
This is a true story of my first introduction to being gay.
In the summer of my 10th year JonKatz and his parents moved in next door to my folks. He was 14 at that time and would be starting Junior High in the fall. JonKatz was not what you would call knock down handsome, perhaps a 7 or 8 on a scale of 1 to 10. He had, as I remember, dark hair -brown or black - and nice brown eyes. A husky build, not fat, but sturdy for his age.
During the winter we would mess around a bit, snowball fights and such, because we were the only non-adults on our block. I was a bit afraid of JonKatz but at the same time admired him "as the older man".
When the next summer came (I being 11 and he was 15) we were more comfortable with each other, even though he was so much older. One day, all our parents being at work, JonKatz told me to come into the garage because he wanted "to show you something."
When we got in there he told me to drop my pants which I did, with some reluctance. After they were down around my ankles he slipped his hands into the waist-band on each of my hips and slid my shorts down to reveal my boytool.
I had been experimenting with myself for several months, mostly in the bathtub, and, while my uncut cock was still only about 3" long it could
get nice and hard. Also my ballsac was not fully developed yet so it was not too large either.
When JonKatz had me exposed he reached down and began playing with my cock, sliding the foreskin back and forth and squeezing it. Of course, it began to respond and when he had it hard he knelt down in front of me and took everything into his mouth. I can almost still feel the shiver that went down my back as his warm, wet mouth engulfed my hard tool and my tight ballsac. I could feel his nose pressed against my pelvis where my pubes would appear in a few years.
While he was working his mouth on the front he had spread the cheeks of my young ass and worked one of his fingers into the hole, slipping it in and out.
Presently, he stood up and unfastened his pants and dropped them to to floor. He was not wearing any undershorts so his 5" hardon was immediately visible to my astonished eyes. It looked huge compared with mine.
"Now, you do to me what I did to you", he said. I noticed that there was a drop of colorless fluid beginning to emerge from the slit in the end of his cock but had no idea what it was. I knelt down in front of his and touched the tip with my tongue. "Put it in your mouth." I opened my lips and carefully took the tip of the head between them.
"Not like that", he whispered, "like this." And with that he put his hands behind my head and thrust his pelvis forward to push his hard meat into my mouth. When I started to gag he pulled back enough that I was able to accept his cock comfortably. Then he began moving his lower body in the time honored way until I got the idea of how to move my head back and forth, sliding my tongue up and down the underside of his hard shaft.
Suddenly, he gave a groan and a lurch and I felt something hot and slightly salty spurt into my mouth. It surprised me so that I automatically swallowed (not for the last time by any means!). That was the first time JonKatz and I sucked each other but certainly not the end. As I mentioned before, all our parents worked so we were pretty much left alone during the week. There were many times we would spend time together, either in his room or in mine, when we would strip down naked and play and suck for an hour or more at a time. On warm summer nights we would sneak out to the backyard, strip and lay in the grass making love to each other.
We got so we could time our climax and shoot our cum at almost the same moment. Yes, my "manhood" arrived while JonKatz was still available - at the age of about 12 and a half, as I recall. In fact, JonKatz drank my first explosion - gad, that was a shaker! JonKatz got my cock to expand to its final 6.5" while his increased to a bit over 7.
When he was 18, JonKatz went into the Army. I saw him once on furlogh and got a Christmas card one year. That was the last I ever heard from him. I have no idea if he is still alive or not but I often think of him when I am jacking my meat and wish I could relive those summer days with my first love.
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Strom Thurmond; the dean of the US Senate...
the deadest fart on slashdot.
BRINGING JonKatz ALONG
CmdrTaco answered the doorbell, saw Hemos, and turned around
walking away and clapping his hands.
"Hot damn! Got some juicy porn flicks for us tonight,
buddy."
"Hope so," Hemos said, ushering a third guy in, then closing
the door. CmdrTaco turned.
"Uh, who's this?"
"That's JonKatz. He's a queer," Hemos stated flatly, taking
off his jacket and throwing it over a chair.
"What?" CmdrTaco frowned, looking JonKatz up and down. "Uh,
what'd you bring a queer along for?"
"Instead of sitting there like a couple of idgits with our
hands down our pants, I figured we'd do it up good. Strip down
and let him lick us while we watch porn."
"You're weird, man!" CmdrTaco shook his head.
"Nuts. You'd like to lick CmdrTaco's cock and balls, wouldn't
you, JonKatz?"
JonKatz stood there nervously, staring directly at CmdrTaco's
crotch. "Unh huh."
"See, I told ya."
"I don't care. I ain't gonna let no faggot mess with me!"
"Suit yourself. You'll change your mind once you see him
working me over. He's got a wicked tongue. A real special
talent. Besides that, he's a nasty little punk. You like doing
nasty things, doncha, JonKatz?"
JonKatz nodded up and down, a stupid smile on his face.
"Whadda you mean, nasty? Cocksuckin' another dude is nasty
enough."
Hemos took CmdrTaco by the shoulders and turned him around.
"JonKatz, how'd you like to ram your tongue up my buddy's hairy
butthole? Look good to ya?"
JonKatz's eyes lit up and his tongue did an obscene little
swirl. "YOU BET!"
"WHAT?!" CmdrTaco cried.
"Pop a tape in, man. I'm ready to get started." He began to
remove his pants and shirt. "JonKatz sucks assholes, dude. JonKatz
loves to suck assholes. Wait'll you see him sucking mine out."
"Are you doped up or what? I don't wanna see him suckin'
your shithole, man!"
"Oh, you Hemos, buddy. Then you'll throw your legs up and
beg him to drill his tongue up your keester."
"Hey, do what you want. Just stay down at that end of the
couch, okay?"
Hemos sat bare-assed on the couch, sprawling his legs out.
CmdrTaco took a few furtive glances at his buddy's nakedness, then
averted his eyes as he pushed the remote. He sighed disgustedly
when JonKatz also took his clothes off, although he was somewhat
glad the guy wasn't some ugly old troll.
"Hey, JonKatz," Hemos said, fiddling with his balls, "go and
bring us all beers."
JonKatz hopped up and went into the kitchen.
"Are you serious?!" CmdrTaco hissed after he left.
"Trust me, man. Just treat him like a punk slave. He'll do
anything you say. Come on, take your fuckin' clothes off and
get into it."
Reluctantly, CmdrTaco began to strip. When JonKatz came back, he
saw CmdrTaco's big cock and whistled appraisingly. CmdrTaco blushed.
"Nice big honker, hunh, JonKatz?" Hemos said, looking his
buddy's cock over. "Got you drooling, thinking about the two
big loads you're gonna get? We used to jerk each other off when
we were kids. CmdrTaco shoots a big wad."
"Jeez, don't tell him that!" CmdrTaco cried.
"Why not? You do."
"I don't mean that, I mean...the other."
"Cripes, you've turned into such a pussy. Ever jerked off
with your straight buddies when you were younger, JonKatz?"
"Sure. All the time. Then I started sucking 'em. They dug
it, but then they eventually gave me the heave-ho."
"Stupid fucks," Hemos growled, taking a swig of his beer. He
leaned over and rustled JonKatz's hair. "I wouldn't have done
that. I would have fed you cock all through junior high and
high school. Some guys just don't know when they've got
something cooking. Woah, nice pussy! Get a load of the meat on
that fucker, too. Bet you'd like to sucker the jizz outta that
guy's balls, hunh, JonKatz?"
"Yeah, but I'd really to suck his hairy asshole!" JonKatz
replied.
"Bet he'd let ya. You really get off on bungs, doncha? You
like smelling 'em, too, doncha? Sure dig sniffin' mine. I was
pretty ripe the other day, wasn't I?" His cock was up hard and
he was fisting it slowly.
"You sure were...real ripe!"
"But you liked it that way, didn't you?"
"I sure did, Hemos! Got a stinky one tonight?"
"Better than stinky, man. That's why I'm sitting on my
shirt. Don't wanna get any butt slime on CmdrTaco's couch." He
chuckled while CmdrTaco gasped.
"Aw, that's filthy, man! Are you sitting there with a
shitty asshole?"
"Hey, I'm on an old shirt. Relax."
"Are you saying that queer...licks shitty assholes?!"
"I don't know. This is the first time I've offered it to
him dirty. JonKatz, you still wanna suck my ass?"
"Absolutely!" JonKatz gushed, crawling between Hemos's legs.
"I'll lick it clean for you. I like 'em kinda raunchy, but
if there's shit on it I don't mind licking it off."
"If CmdrTaco lifted his legs up and he had a ring of crap
all around his hole, would you lick it off for him?"
"Sure. I'd eat CmdrTaco's shit. I mean, I'd lick it off his
asshole."
"Here, lick it off mine. No sense messing up this shirt."
He grabbed his knees and pulled them back. CmdrTaco stared in shock
as JonKatz stuck his face up to Hemos's butt and began to sniff
and lick his hairy ass. "Watch this, CmdrTaco."
"Jeez, what about the movie?" CmdrTaco whined.
"Fuck the video. This is real. Watch how he licks off my
shithole."
JonKatz's tongue was bathing Hemos's entire crack. He loved
the smelly thing and soon had his tongue circling Hemos's shitty
hole. Hemos even reached down and pulled his cheeks apart,
letting the astonished CmdrTaco get a good peek. CmdrTaco couldn't help
staring as JonKatz cleaned his buddy's dirty crapper.
"Oh, this is the life!" Hemos moaned, throwing his head back
and glancing over at CmdrTaco. "When something gets dirty, just
have your personal slave lick it. He cleans my armpits and even
sucks the grunge from between my toes. He'll do anything you
ask him to, CmdrTaco. Just tell him what you want."
"Yeah, what if I wanted to SHIT on him?!" CmdrTaco snarled in
contempt.
"Go ahead. Hell, shit in his mouth if you want. Yeah, I'd
like to see that myself. You'd let CmdrTaco take a shit in your
mouth if I wanted, wouldn't you, JonKatz?"
"Um, gee, I guess so, Hemos, if you wanted me to. I've never
done that...sucked on a turd, I mean. I'd rather do it to you,
Hemos. For the first one, anyway."
"See, what'd I tell you? Well, I might be all shitted out,
so maybe we'll have to postpone the turdsuck for another time.
But suck me out real good, JonKatz. Maybe there's a leftover
turdball up there. If you can suck one out, there's a good
chance we can get CmdrTaco to take a poop for you."
"You're insane!" CmdrTaco cried, shaking his head. But he
continued to watch JonKatz eat out his buddy's splayed bunghole
...keeping a close eye out for any turdballs that might come
flying out. Not that he particularly wanted to see one.
"Mmmm, clean me out. Eat that shitty hole. Aw, look at him
slopping out my turdhole, CmdrTaco. Lots of shitjuice going down
his throat and he's happy as all fuck."
"Gee, Hemos, maybe he'd like to drink your enema," CmdrTaco said
sarcastically. "Oh, that's too demented to even suggest!"
"NO!" JonKatz piped up.
Hemos laughed. "Naw, that's more perverted than fun."
"I'm sorry I even mentioned it," CmdrTaco whined.
"Oooh, he's gettin' my hole loosened up. Maybe if I bear
down. If I plop out a little turd in his mouth, Hemos you go
through with it, CmdrTaco?"
"You know, just to show you how disgusting this all is, I
just might. Yeah, I'll fuckin' shit in his mouth, just so
you'll have to smell my shit!"
"Wouldn't be the first time, pal. I've followed you in the
bathroom before. You suck and I'll push, JonKatz. If that doesn't
work, maybe you can scoop some out with your fingers."
"I don't mind eating your shit off my fingers, Hemos," JonKatz
said, "but it won't be the same as a big turd in my mouth."
"You're right. Bad idea. Unless you just wanna scoop some
out anyway."
"Why can't you guys just do some normal cocksucking and
forget the shit?"
"Yeah, my hole's clean. Crawl over and see if CmdrTaco's ready
to let you lick his prick."
CmdrTaco had a stiff rail in his hand, despite everything else.
He sighed in resignation, and pushed his boner down between his
spread legs, letting the eager JonKatz lick the crown.
"Uh, yeah, that's okay. What the hell. I've let a couple
fags go down on me in the past. Go ahead and suck it if you
want."
"That's the spirit, CmdrTaco! But let him treat you, don't go
blowing your load too soon. And when you're ready, just lift
your legs and tell him to lick your ass."
After JonKatz slobbered over CmdrTaco's knob and teased up and
down his shaft for a while, CmdrTaco was getting turned on much too
fast. He pulled his cock from JonKatz's mouth and lifted his
thighs.
"Alright," he sighed with false reluctance, "Go on. Might
as well get my ass sucked for all this baloney you're putting
me through." He stared at the ceiling--a feined attempt to
disassociate himself from what was happening.
"Aw, poor baby," Hemos chuckled, making CmdrTaco laugh, too.
Then CmdrTaco let out a quiet little gasp as JonKatz's wet tongue
began to circle his hairy anus.
"Ah, fuck!" He lifted his thighs more and held his knees
back. "If you're gonna eat out my shithole, man, go for it! Oh,
god, I didn't know I was so sensitive down there. Oh, that's a
great sensation!"
"You got him hooked, JonKatz baby," Hemos cried, getting down
on the floor to watch. "Make him squirm. Lick that hairy
stinkhole and show him whose tongue is boss. Make him quiver
like you did me that first time. Look at him holding those legs
back, offering everything he's got. Eat that smelly hole!" Hemos
looked up at CmdrTaco and winked. "Kinda neat having a faggot
between your cheeks cleaning out your shitty asshole, isn't it?
And the best part is he likes the way you smell down there and
he likes the way you taste. He's gonna ram his long tongue up
your hot turdhole and try to lick out your steamy rectum!"
Then he turned back to JonKatz. "How's he taste?"
"Oh, he's delicious! And his smell doesn't go away after
licking it, cause it's so hairy, I guess. Best smelling asshole
I ever smelled. I could keep my nose in here for a week!"
"Well, buddy, guess your shit does stink better than mine."
"Oh, that's, I mean..." JonKatz stammered, "I still love
yours, Hemos."
"Heh. Just eat. I know enough about bungsuckers to know
that the sweetest asshole in the world is the one they happen to
be eating out at the moment." He sat down next to CmdrTaco, raised
his own legs, then grabbed CmdrTaco's hand and wrapped it around
his prick while taking CmdrTaco's big cock in hand. Then he
grinned. "Hell, we might as well trade handjobs while he
tickles our innards."
CmdrTaco was about to take his hand away, but the feel and
texture of his buddy's cock felt comfortably familiar. "Guess
one more time wouldn't hurt."
"Hell, I never did want to stop. Even after we started
getting chicks, I could have gone for a wild meat-beating with
you now and then. And it's a lot safer now."
"How's that?"
"Well, with a cocksucker to do our bidding, we won't be
tempted to try it out."
"I never was tempted to try that!" CmdrTaco said defensively.
"Fuck you and the big balls you rode in on! I thought about
it, and I know you did, too. We were both just too chicken,
that's all."
"Yeah. Well, good thing we got a cocksucker, right?"
"Right. How's your bunghole feeling?"
"Ah, good! Makes me think about something else we never
tried." He chuckled.
"Hey, we're big boys now. You can stick it up my hole if I
can stick it up yours! And JonKatz can suck our cocks clean!"
"Fuck each other like a bitch, hunh?"
"Yep. Then we can both fuck JonKatz."
"And I'll still lick your pricks clean!" JonKatz blurted out,
smiling.
Years ago when Linux 2C tips had just started, I published a little script to periodicly generate random wallpaper by tiling gifs plucked out of the netscape cache........
Judging by the amount of feedback I got the concept was quite popular.
Carnivore Server is a set of Perl scripts running on top of tcpdump
You know, sadly, this is probably far more sophisticated than the actual Carnivore system.
Good grief.
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What happens when you outlaw guns
This would offcourse hardly be any safer if you'd not audit all the code before compiling it:)
0x or or snor perron?!
Here is some more information about the artwork (NYTimes login required blah blah blah blah)
So they release a "Art Project" that convinces people to install a box on a bunch of networks, join an IRC channel and dump packets...
...
And this is a good thing because
???
Would need to be some kind of no-hop-added router, I guess. (I know IPF can do this, but parsing packet content is a bigger job than just reading headers, especially at the major nodes)
Like others have wisely said, if your unsure, encrypt with your own keys. Everyone sniffs around these days, run ipmon for fun!
I agree.. I know that with what is happening lately with terrorism in our country, the fbi wants to implement anything they can to track any potential criminals.. but with all this "tracking" going on, and with no one having any privacy left at all, i wonder how many times people will be under suspicion for something when they really didn't do anything wrong at all.
Imagine setting up a dual-homed, 802.11b equipped laptop near a major business, then using this art project to broadcast what you hear to the world.
Scary!
Start secret message:
s^O(^S^XltkA@[1^Z;
end secret message
The previous has been a secret message to my comrades.
So there's no public domain software.
The FBI's carnivore is based on proven technology. This anarchist's version of software is that open-source garbage. It will take someone 2 years to figure out how to install it, then they'll have to wait 3 more for the next release.
Are the algorithms used to generate the "art" one-way or reversible? I.e. is this art project a security hole of its own by allowing the original datastream to be resurrected?
While I suppose this software could be used for legitimate security purposes, much as programs like Snort which monitor your network, the potential for abuse is great. By providing network administrators with a tool for sifting through network traffic for fun tidbits like email messages and other personal communications, the bar has been raised in the battle for privacy. Tools like this will make it that much easier for your ISP or employer to spy on you unless you take great precautions like encrypting everything. Since that's not always feasible, I guess we need to accept that there's no such thing as privacy on the net.
Of course that was always the case, but in the past it's been similar to the "school of fish" mode of defense. By schooling, fish reduce their chance of being singled out by predators. In a group of a million fish, the chance of any particular one of them getting eaten by a shark is small. One could liken this scenario to the millions of Internet users. But now, with tools like Carnivore, you can catch all of the fish at once and devour them at your leisure.
I think I see why it's named Carnivore.
Plus, by creating tools that could potentially be used to circumvent our rights, these "artists" are in fact collaborators. There are no two ways about it.
Slashdot: Open Source, Closed Minds.
Plus, you need to build your own compiler, starting with hand-built machine code and bootstrapping your way up (see the classic C Compiler hack).
Of course, you then need to build your own processor to ensure there are no hacks in the processor too...
Fascism starts when the efficiency of the government becomes more important than the rights of the people.
I searched all the web site , and couldn't find the clients :(
Examples are cute, but where is the software ?
"We all know Linux is great...it does infinite loops in 5 seconds." -- Linus
It seems that the purpose of this project is to make fun of the FBI. Interpretting the data in creative ways is exactly what we assume the FBI would do with the captured data anyways.
Plus, "well, it's not an invasion of privacy, it's just art" is a nice spin to "well, it's not an invasion of privacy, it's just security."
Handing out guns to school kids and calling the blood splatters "art".
This stuff is more enjoyable to look at than most of what's on the walls at the Guggenheim!
A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
Now not only do you have the Feds watching everything you do online, but you also have the approval of those who claim to fight for your "freedom". What a joke, indeed. It is time that we, the freedom-loving citizens of the Internet, teach these people that it is not ever acceptable to watch other peoples' network traffic. This is a violation of privacy pure and simple and if we need cause a great disturbance in protest against such a thing, then so be it. We will retain our right to privacy.
--sdem
Just imagine it - due to the wild success of the SETI@home and protein folding efforts, the FBI has decided that they too can distribute the loads of finding nefarious people in the world.
And, with the MPAA and RIAA @home supplemental modules, your MP3s will be reported directly to the master FBI server...
I donate all spillover Karma to the charity of my choice... Ada was still a babe despite what people may say...
As much as I'd like to, very few, if any people I know have any idea how to decrypt PGP messages. The problem with PGP is you have to have one side to encrypt it and the other side to decrypt it, and since a lot of my friends, family members, and clients are 100% computer illiterate, it does not lend itself to being a realistic solution. I think all messages should, by default, be encrypted by all SMTP servers before they leave the network and be decrypted by the receiving SMTP servers before delivery, by using one of RSA's lovely encryption mechanisms, but that's just me.
Sad to say, while there were many compelling arguments for open sourcing Carnivore so that the public could see if the FBI's boxes could be trusted, there is a major downside.
You've just given Carnivore tools to the Chinese, The Iraqis and all the other oppressive governments of the world. Even though buying a network sniffer and configuring it was within their power before, this makes it easier.
And whatever fears I may have (and they are many) about the U.S. government and its agents abusing their powers, they are nothing compared to the fears I have about those other powers.
What we needed was two things. One was source review of the boxes the goverment uses by a wide range of trusted people, and two was a free as in free beer tool for U.S. ISPs so they can use it as an excuse to refuse a carnovore box on their ISP in the first place.
Has it been over a year since you last donated to the Electronic Frontier Foundation
I always thought GNUs were herbavores...learn something new every day...
KidA
"Karma can only be portioned out by the cosmos." -Homer Simpson
There is absolutely no privacy left on the Net any more. None. Keep that in mind when you rant. That's what crypto is for.
PGP, GnuPG, or whatever public key crypto you use, enables you to sign, verify, encrypt or decrypt documents. That's it. It's not an anonymizer. You can use them to keep your personal communications private, but they're useless for public posts on Slashdot. What good's a post on Slashdot that no one can read?
Now a PGP based mailing list would be a very Good Thing(tm). Encrypt your messages to the list server, which then sends it out encrypted for each subscriber.
A Government Is a Body of People, Usually Notably Ungoverned
I've often thought of vocalizing my lan. Does anyone know where to start to realize tcp packets as sounds?
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
s gV oww12N31MAn3bz
Hash: SHA1
Ok.
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: PGPfreeware 7.0.3 for non-commercial use
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Killa Hills 10304
Life of a drug dealer
Killa hills 10304
Restaurants on a stake-out
So order the food to take out
Chaos, outside a spark steakhouse
Maintain the power, I feel the deal's gon' sour
Nigga Mr. Wedding, late a fuckin' half hour
N' his man who bought land from Tony Starks
While he was contractin' bricklayin' jobs in city parks
He's a lone shark, bitches raise a grand to a finger
In a garment that's stretched, got it sewn like Singer
Cuz all that talk blasphemy this kid after me
For the heist, in a Burlington coat factory
Fuck it, he turned snake so my nigga Cash stole his copilot
Who used to drive like sacks of blow on this remote
Area, we label Dead Man's Island
Two hundred miles South from Thailand
Right off the docks, I got the various custom made yachts
Burial plots, for my niggaz hit with fatal shots
There's no need for us to spray up the scene
I use less men, more powerful shit for my team
Like my man Muhammad from Afghanistan
Grew up in Iran, the nigga runs a neighborhood newsstand
A wild Middle Eastern, bomb specialist
Intiated, at eleven to be a terrorist
He set bombs in bottles of champagne
N' when niggaz popped the cork, niggaz lost half they brains
Like this ex-worker, tried to smuggle a half a key
In his left leg, even underwent surgery
They say his pirate-limp gave him away
As the feds rushed him, comin' through U.S. Customs
Now look who's on the witness stand singin', a well known soprano
A smash hit from Sammy Gravano
Here's the plan minimum for the hit, two hundred grand
Half time at the game blastin' niggaz out the stands
The sharp-shooters hit the prosecutor, judges are sent
Photographs of they wives takin' baths
Along with briefcase filled with one point five, that's the bribe
Take it or commit suicide
First rule, anyone who schemes on the gold in Syria
I want they small intestines ripped from the interior
I got a price for those jewels, ship 'em freight cargo
Don't forget to launder the cream through Wells Fargo
Ricans processin' for the call of Costa Rica
Four hundred barrels of ether
Two hundred pounds of reefer
N' fifty immigrants with fake Visas
Life of a drug dealer
Killa hills, 10304
The saga continues
the gza knows who did it!
Oh yay! X just crashed in the middle of a huge download, that just rocks so much...
open source stable...shea ok...
Windows XP doesn't randomly die after a massive swapp-o-rama...even thought i have 256 megs of ram...
X on Linux sure does though...
I swear, about 5 stories a week on slashdot are straight from memepool.com and the submitters never credit the site.
--
Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things.
GPL considered harmful.... Yes, the explicit purpose of the GPL is to hurt programmers' livelihoods. See Richard Stallman's essay, "The GNU Manifesto," for a frank statement that this is the case. Mr. Stallman does not care whether the programmers harmed by the GPL are working for Microsoft or trying to eke out an honest living despite Microsoft; he wishes to put all of them out of business. Trouble is, it's much easier to hurt the little guy than it is to hurt Microsoft, so guess who suffers?
It is, in fact, ironic just how much the FSF's strategies resemble those of Microsoft.
Microsoft seeks to put other companies such as Netscape out of business by giving away free equivalents of every product they make. The Free Software Foundation seeks to put other companies out of business by giving away free equivalents of every products they make.
Bill Gates has all the money he wants but is motivated by a lust for power and control. Richard Stallman has all of the money he wants but is motivated by a lust for power and control.
Microsoft has a vast hoard of software whose development and licensing it controls. The FSF has an even larger hoard of software whose development and licensing it controls.
Meet the new boss -- same as the old boss.
ok.. everyone try to slashdot uhh slashdot.org on my mark.. 1...2...3...GO!
ahh dident work.
Daddy would you like some sausage?
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Does this mean if I use my laptop with this version of PGP "freeware" at my employer's location whilst on the clock, a BSA raid could net another violation?
That's Mr. GNU/Karnivore to you, buster. ;)
So... When can we expect Carnivore@Home? Personally, I'm kinda tired of Seti@Home...
Doesnt it seem just a little creepy that they (http://www.bsa.org/)have a globe with a (C)opy right sign on it?
"Not my manner of thinking but the manner of thinking of others has been the source of my unhappiness." - M
The YMCA has nothing to do with this
-- Could you use my software consulting serv
No, but you do need to use a compiler that hasn't been hacked in the manner described by your link. I submit that it is possible to do this without building the compiler myself.
Wow, 45 days from seeing Carnivore as a horseman of the apocalypse to striving to make a more effective open source version.
Kevin Fox
I did this better in webcollage years ago. But of course I didn't call myself an Artist Collective, and I didn't put out a press release, so no article in the Times for me, darn. I guess that's why webcollage is a ``hack'' rather than an ``art project.''
I swear, one of these days I'm gonna apply for a federal grant to hack on xscreensaver . I've seen people get money for worse things . All you have to do is swallow your sanity and gag up an artist statement of some kind, and the literati will take you seriously: if you cloak it in pretentiousness, the most trivial piece of eye candy can become a Serious Work, full of Insight And Meaning!
The problem with art is artists. My goal has long been to eliminate the artist from the creative process.
But that's the whole point. Unless you've vetted the compiler you don't know what's been hacked into it!
And if you build a compiler using a different compiler, you have the same problem. Therefore, you need to bootstrap your own compiler!
They're art fags... logic isn't one of their strong points.
Yes, exactly. I don't know about you, but it's much easier for me to vet my compilers than it is for me to write them from scratch.
The process is greatly simplified by the fact that you can often use the same compiler to compile itself; yes, you have to start with a precompiled one, but simply compare the vetted one with the precompiled one to determine if the precompiled one has been compromised.
In fact, I would go so far as to claim that most people vet their compilers already. Their standards simply vary quite a bit in thoroughness from our own.
There is absolutely no privacy left on the Net any more. None. Keep that in mind when you rant. That's what crypto is for. Ranting on Slashdot is by it's very nature, about as public as you can get.
I have to say, I fear you people way more than I fear the government. It's people like you that bombed Oklahoma City.
To call this retarded hack an open-source Carnivore is totally ridiculous, as jwz says.
See Dsniff for a collection of free, open-source tools even more powerful than Carnivore:
http://www.monkey.org/~dugsong/dsniff/
and without all the artsy-fartsy pretense...
...adding GNU to a name just makes it silly.
In other news, Richard Stallman is considering changing the GNU Project's name to Monty Python and hawking its software as parodies of the real stuff.
I find rather strange that a software developped to snoop on other people's private matters seek 'linux community' approval by releasing it GPL?
:D
This will be a GREAT tool for people to just try & snoop on everybody else
What's the big deal, bad guys are not going to send an e-mail with their attack plans.
diff/ my dear, = dzat {
. [0+0] m9nd declard `webcollage` art / non-art
. `Jamie Zawinski` == jealous
. (`Jamie Zawinski`) => `carnivore` prjkt !=
(group) => `webcollage`
}
. `Jamie Zawinski` == jealous
bzzt!
. `Jamie Zawinski` == jealous
bzzt!
. `Jamie Zawinski` == jealous
bzzt!
. `Jamie Zawinski` == jealous
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may ! add
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My little brother is THE admin at a major co. that provides web hosting and marketing services, I asked him about carnivore about a year ago and he said "I could tell you but then I'd have to kill you." I let the subject drop.
Maybe your friends are just doing you a favor and you don't realise it, or maybe it doesn't realy work yet, only a select few know and nobody's talking.
OK, fine, try GnuPG then. It's an open source implementation of the OpenPGP standard, and doesn't have US export restrictions (because it's German, and importing foreign encryption munitions _into_ the US is fine). It and recent PGP versions should be fully compatible (by default, it doesn't quite implement the OpenPGP standard, for compatibility with older PGP versions, but you can set it to pedantic standards-compliance mode if you want a fully correct implementation).
Will this compile on Cygwin? I don't think TCPDump will, or will it? I'll take a look later. I also own a copy of flash, mebbe I'll write something cool as a vis client..... I'll post my results later. --j0shua
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HINT: Look at the caps...
If you think it's so trivial, join the project and add your collage as a client--that's the whole point. Maybe you'd wow all those naive artists with your programming skill. Maybe you'd fall flat on your face. And maybe, just maybe, you and the artists might get along and produce a really good piece of collaborative software art.
So you wrote a program, and then a bunch of other people made a better version, and now you're whining about them getting all the attention.
Funny that an ex-Netscape guy still believes in first-mover advantage.
Is it just me, or would anyone else be entirely unsurprised if the FBI discontinues development of carnivore and its successors, and swtiches to GNU carnivore? After all, now they have a similar application developed by experts all over the world, and they can review all of the code for backdoors. Hell, I can see governments all over the world picking up this program and abusing it to the detriment of humanity worldwide. I hate to say it, but this is one project that I wish had never happened, and will not miss if it dies out.
This isn't an "open source version of the FBI's Carnivore," and it's not a "GNU Carnivore." It's an art project inspired by the FBI's Carnivore, and it has nothing to do with monitoring internet usage or violating anyone's privacy. Basically, this Carnivore project serves up data culled from tcpdump, and then clients use the data to generate intriguing and sometimes beautiful audio or visual art. Go check it out; it's very cool.
Maybe this could be configured to detect virus attacks and draw a few skulls in a window to inform you...
;)
That might stimulate a few lax sysadmins when bosses see their boxen showing jolly rogers..
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Paul
If you are nervous about your Usenet posts being intercepted by Spootnik, please moderate him into oblivion.