Wil Wheaton playing for EFF
Quintin Stone (and every other Slashdot reader on the planet) writes: "Wil Wheaton is among the many Star Trek actors on tonight's Weakest Link, except that the charity he's playing for is the Electronic Frontier Foundation. Though so far he's been doing well." CD: I don't want to give away the ending, many people have yet to see the show.
I enjoyed watching the show (WL), but I've gotta ask: Was Roxann just putting on an act, or is she truly as much of a colossal bitch as she seemed? My jaw dropped when watching her "exiting interrogation".
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Anyone want to tell for those of us who can't stand the show?
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Spoiler, If you didn't watch yet:
Wil did pretty well. Made it to being one of the last three people (Robert Picardo And LeVar Burton went on, LeVar won), and I think he could have taken Robert. LeVar was pretty sharp, though.
Also, it was good to see the EFF on a more 'Mainstream' medium. Go Wil!
What was with Roxanne? She was honestly out to get Wil at first, and she just seemed like a real bitch, otherwise.
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an AC telling us Levar won?
lemme guess... "But you dont have to take MY word for it!" buh bum BUM
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Gotta say, Wil, that bowling shirt was cool.
But since I already sent email to that effect, I guess I'm (-1: Redundant).
-l
Heh heh... and to think that just a week or two ago, I posted a comment telling how much I hated his character in Star Trek. Especially in that episode where they go to some planet where the penalty for any crime, no matter how small, is death, and he runs into a glass thing and then there's a whole bunch of politics going on to try and get him out of it. But if he's donating to the EFF, it's all good dog.
No, this isn't really an apology. I still think his character was a moron.
Oh well.
Interesting that he's backing the EFF, on a show presented on american TV which is no doubt behind the DMCA which has Sklyarov in jail. By the way, his hearing date was set today.
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The few exceptions tend to be those episodes that are made up of celebrities from a similar background. They're generally all independently wealthy, so aren't driven by personal gain. In addition, they've all got "personal history" between them which often leads them to vote off other players without regards to what would give them the best chances of winning.
It's nice to see the EFF getting national publicity though, as I'm a paying member myself.
In all, though, when I watch game shows (not often) I tend to watch Jeopardy for the reasons stated above.
"No, no, no. Don't tug on that. You never know what it might be attached to."
Way to go Wil, you deserve success !
"A door is what a dog is perpetually on the wrong side of" - Ogden Nash
We have locked onto your coordinates in Australia. Per the DMCA and the Berne Copyright Treaty, Jack Valenti and the MPAA will be coming to investigate your ass for conspiracy to pirate intellectual property. We will be investigating your ass with a large unlubricated broomstick handle, followed by the large end of a Louisville slugger, and finally we will conclude by investigating your ass with this. Do not be alarmed, if you have done nothing wrong then you have nothing to hide. Thank you.
According to the disclaimer screen at the end of the show, all of the charities get at least $10,000. So, even though Wil lost, EFF still gets some money. Besides, the free publicity that Wil just gave EFF is probably worth much more than the donation.
Everyone also got paid union scale to appear on the show, so Wil got a few bucks out of the deal, as well.
All of the contestants seemed to pretty much rock at one time or another on the questions... much better than on the average celebrity game show. LeVar Burton mentioned something about $167,500 being some sort of Weakest Link record.
Just in case anyone was wondering, here are the contestants:
Wil Wheaton (ST:TNG)
LeVar Burton (ST:TNG)
Robert Picardo (ST:VOY)
Denise Crosby (ST:TNG)
Roxann Dawson (ST:VOY)
John DeLancie (ST:TNG,DS9,VOY)
William Shatner (ST:TOS)
Armin Shimerman (ST:DS9)
It's not offtopic, it's a damn good quetion. When Roxann (Engineer B'Elanna Torres from Voyager) was voted off, she put on a bit of a hissy fit in the "exit interview". She especially singled out Wil Wheaton for "hitting on her" when he knew her husband would be watching.
"Prejudice is wrong; you should hate everyone the same."
Levar played for an LA chapter Junior Achievement.
If the EFF worked with corporations to offer payroll deductions like the United Way does, I'd be happy to donate a portion of my salary to the EFF. It really was a pleasant surprise to see Wil ("that's one L!") playing for that charity.
Thanks a LOT dude!
Your subject line didn't have to start with "will lost"
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It didn't, it said "wil lost"
"A door is what a dog is perpetually on the wrong side of" - Ogden Nash
Yeah, freedom is not nearly as important as children.
Not.
Napster-to-go says "Fill and refill your compatible MP3 player", which is a lie. It's not MP3. It's WMA with DRM.
Actually this tends to confirm a theory I have- the coolest/healthiest/sanest people out there are those who HAVE to be, because they learned the hard way. I think Wil definitely illustrates this- if you get heavy into being not only a Hollywood teenager, but are also saddled with being Wesley Crusher, you'll get off to a really bad start- and then, unlike most people, you have to _really_ grow up.
That's my theory, anyway, for explaining how Wil Wheaton turned out to be one of the cooler humans I've ever seen. Keep it up my ex-starfleet friend :)
If you ever get the chance to see the episode of TWL that starred Ben Stein (Host of game show 'Win Ben Stein's Money'), you might just be surprised.
TWL's host said something to the affect of "Well, Ben, you're supposed to be quite smart at trivia on your own show, but you're playing a very average game today."
Ben Stein mockingly mumbled whines perfect in time with her syllables, and while she covered her face, I swear she was cracking up underneath.
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The EFF is fighting for our freedom, one of the most important and central issues in the world. Women's Rights, Human Rights, Children's Rights, these are all worthy and important issues. They all have on thing in common: they need freedom to make progress.
Dr. Evil should get out and date more.. how about Anne Robinson.
The contestants acquited themselves well, but Q took a powder early on.
Denise was obviously the crowds favorite and had the entire soundstage bidding her a rousing farewell... even Anne!
Bill was Bill, with a little Kirk thrown in.
Armin was a great sport.
Bob Picardo was a genius, WoW some of the questions he answered floored me.
Levar pulled some of the most amazing answers out of thin air and even wow'ed Bob.
Wil though was a true geek and seemed a team leader, doing verbal duets with Anne til the end.. of course we all know who got the last word..
I'd say Wil was more a brash younger captain serving as the instigator of the Clash, while cooler more intellectual minds eventually had to finish the game. How Weslean.. ~~
The dynamics and interplay, of which there was surprisingly a good lot, seemed truly like a missing Trek episode.. some years down the road I wonder if it will turn up in an Anthology of Trek stories.. the one where real characters from the Trek Universe get mixed up with actors in a Game show Universe.
Wil really seems to be over his "I am Not Spock" phase and resumed being a human being with a wicked alter-ego.. imagine a twisted Wesley with revenge on his mind, true brillance, and a good dialogue coach.. Eee Gads..
But throwing in his chances with the EFF, you just gotta admire him for that.
Roxane? what of Roxane?
Could it be some evil entity of denial that body hops from person to person shortly after a Trek series is over? Is it Roxane's turn to play "I am Not Banal Balanna, the Klingon"
Hmm, I haven't seen the show yet unfortunately. I was making an un-educated guess :)
"A door is what a dog is perpetually on the wrong side of" - Ogden Nash
I have to agree with this. With starvation-related deaths in Afghanistan (conceivably going over a million) as just the most obvious example, there are better ways to spend the money. Sure, the EFF is cool. General human rights is even cooler. But... let's keep people from dying of things like starvation, disease, and our own political expediency before we worry too much about their rights - or ours.
Wil, I like ya - I really do. I just have to wonder, though - if you had a million dollars to invest on a cause, why you'd pick the EFF. I hope it wasn't just because of some 31337 haxor image or something...
Disaster and famine relief organizations (I'm thinking Mercy Corps, not the Red Cross), Doctors Without Borders, CARE, and UNICEF have relatively low administrative overheads (Mercy Corps claims 5%!) and work to stop people from dying. If slashdotters want to concentrate on helping people at home, plenty of homeless shelters and havens for abused and/or addicted women and children, not to mention any number of cancer and disease societies and, yes, famine relief organizations in almost every city, also are desperate for funding.
Get off my launchpad!
In order to truly help these countries, we must provide them with a model upon which to build. If the free world (not just US) can provide this example, then that is a worthy goal. No amount of free giving will solve the causes of those problems; they will just temporarily alleviate the suffering.
To sum it up: there is no point helping someone survive starvation, war, or any other form of suffering, if all you do is buy them a life of slavery. That is why freedom is important.
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I guess those years of Reading Rainbow really paid off...
We should never give any money to any organization that helps anybody but women and children. Let's immediately cut all government funding and donations to art, science, politics, education...everything.
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THE WEAKEST LINK - STAR TREK EDITION - 11/26/2001
The Team: 1. Wil Wheaton
2. LeVar Burton
3. Robert Picardo
4. Denise Crosby
5. Roxann Dawson
6. John DeLancie
7. William Shatner
8. Armin Shimerman
Round 1: $17,000 banked
Strongest: Crosby - Weakest: DeLancie
Votes: Dawson 2 (Wheaton, Shatner), DeLancie 2 (Burton, Crosby), Shatner 2 (Picardo, Shimerman), Wheaton 1 (Dawson), Picardo 1 (DeLancie)
Crosby elects to remove DeLancie
Round 2: $13,500 banked (total $30,500)
Strongest: Picardo - Weakest: Shatner
Votes: Shatner 3 (Burton, Picardo, Shimerman), Crosby 2 (Wheaton, Shatner), Wheaton 1 (Dawson), Dawson 1 (Crosby)
Shatner removed
Round 3: $2,500 banked (total $33,000)
Strongest: Burton - Weakest: Crosby
Votes: Dawson 4 (Wheaton, Burton, Picardo, Shimerman), Wheaton 1 (Crosby), Shimerman 1 (Dawson)
Dawson removed
Round 4: $14,500 banked (total $47,500)
Strongest: Picardo - Weakest: Shimerman
Votes: Crosby 4 (Wheaton, Burton, Picardo, Shimerman), Shimerman 1 (Crosby)
Crosby removed
Round 5: $25,000 banked (total $72,500)
Strongest: Picardo - Weakest: Shimerman
Votes: Shimerman 3 (Wheaton, Burton, Picardo), Wheaton 1 (Shimerman)
Shimerman removed
Round 6: $25,000 banked (total $97,500)
Strongest: Burton - Weakest: Wheaton
Votes: Wheaton 2 (Burton, Picardo), Picardo 1 (Wheaton)
Wheaton removed
Round 7: $35,000 X2 banked (total $167,500*)
Strongest: Picardo
Final: Picardo starts, Burton wins 4-3
* - According to comments made by Burton, "They say it's a record."
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You're right, it's not a charity. It's an activist organization. And it's worth more than almost any charity. It's for improving the future instead of putting a bandaid on the present.
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While most celebrities compete for whose charity supports children that are suffering more, it is refreshing to see one person support an organization with a philosophical agenda that he identifies with. I'm sure most celebrities' publicists would have reccommended that they avoid charities like the EFF because their opposition to draconian surveillance technologies stands in stark contrast to the prevailing public opinion.
/. who support the EFF: how do you respond to their opposition of content control/digital rights management? If so, how would you respond to your colleagues who claim that it will impair their ability to support themselves as artists?
One question for Wil or any aspiring entertainers on
I recall that Wil was booed at a Star Trek convention many years ago and vowed never never to speak at such a convention again. However, his commitment to civil liberties and his young age/ability to relate to an audience of college students would make him an ideal guest for the college lecture circuit. I know of at least one organization on my campus that would be willing to sponsor a guest like Wil and I'm certain that similar organizations at other Universities would also be accomodating. The money may not be as good as an Star Trek convention, but he would certainly receive a better reception than he did at the Star Trek convention and he would have the opportunity to use his celebrity to advance his ideology.
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The thing that is stupid about Weakest Link is that people are penalized for not knowing EVERY single question. I mean, how retarded is that? In every game show I've ever seen there has always been a way to defer one or two questions on subjects you don't know. Jeopardy you get to pick the category. Millionaire you get the lifelines.
Weakest Link is stupid because it is completely random luck. You either get asked what color is clover or who invented the little plastic thing that holds the ends of your shoelaces together. This forces people to become paranoid and bank at ridiculously low levels. Most people barely let the pot hit $5000 before yelling "BANK!"
Here's how it should work:
Answering the question right adds a link and increases the pot. Answer the question wrong and the pot disappears completely. Say "BANK" (or "PASS" or whatever) and the pot gets banked and resets to zero and play moves onto the next person.
That way, the bank has a real chance to grow. So it costs more money, boo hoo hoo. Millionaire gives away more in a single night than Weakest Link does in a week. It is just plain anti-climatic to see someone fight his way through this whole Darwinian process only to walk away with the paltry sum of $30,000 and change.
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-- I wonder which will go down in history as the bigger failure: the War on Drugs or the War on Filesharing
but I'm in Oz so we just get the stupid local version...
Hmmm... strange. That's what we get in the U.S. too.
Well, slashdot posted the info 13 minutes after the show ended here (8pm). Searching tvguide.com and tv.yahoo.com shows that particular episode as not airing again.
Anyone have any idea if it will air again or maybe someone who captured it to mpeg or something?
I really wanted to see it.
Geoffeg
I'm humming the theme song.
Mod that guy up as funny.
Freedom for your children is as important as freedom and children put together.
--Blair
Your comments reflect a common sentiment, but it's not logical to take that position. Here's why:
1) First statement (yours) summed up neatly: why play for charity A when charity B appears to address a more pressing need. That is where you stopped thinking about it and reached a conclusion.
2) The conclusion was premature: one can go further - why play for charity B when charity C is addressing an even more pressing need. But that's not the end of it either.
3) The set of all charities is finite, meaning that if you continually favor the charity that address the more important need, then eventually you will find THE charity that addresses the MOST important need. That is where you stop. Give them your money.
4) Unfortunately, that situation leads to starvation. If you accept the first idea as true, (the one that you offered) then only one charity can logically be funded. Obviously, this is a far worse situation than we intended,
5) Therefore, we must reject the original premise as leading to an undesirable outcome, and therefore flawed for purposes of efficiently distributing money to charity.
The insult "get a life" is similarly flawed. At the end of the chain of thinking, one must live as the finest human being ever, and to be any lesser earns the "get a life" smackdown. One could offer my argument that I gave above as a logical retort. Or, one could simply offer a middle finger and a "hearty colloquialism".
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Junior Achievement...if I rewind my memory back to the seventh or eighth grade, I seem to remember Junior Achivement as a sort of mobile capitalist indoctrination course...but I could be wrong.
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When it comes to charity, it's not about who or what is the better organization, but that someone cares enough to donate to the cause at all. In the current political climate, my personal charity would be donating to wither the NYFD or to an organization benefiting those starving and freezing in Afhanistan. Wil chose the EFF, a worthy organization. Not my choice presently but I respect his choice. Will you made it to the final three! Way to go!
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In the previews they showed Anne Robinson saying, "Whose phaser is set on stupid?" I didn't see that one in the aired version.
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Here are his comments copied:
Aw, Crap
I did this interview with Entertainment Weekly Online, to support the Star Trek Weakest Link...I know, it was risky, considering how brilliantly objective and reasoned their last story about me was...but I was assured by NBC, and by the guy who did the interview, that it was a different medium (Website vs. Print) and it would be okay....
So here's the article...which is fine, except for "Crusher Crushed"...c'mon, how many times have we heard that?
Anyway, here's the deal: I'm really scared about how this is going to come off. I'm not allowed to talk about the outcome of the show, so I'll walk a very slim line here, while I try to explain some stuff.
I made a choice, when I went to play the show. I decided that I'd really play with Anne Robinson, and really go head to head with her, and never back down. Even though that's not really my style, I thought it would be fun, and it was...but I'm really nervous, because, at the end of the show, one of the producers came up to me and said, "You're really arrogant, aren't you?"
I was stunned. Ask anyone...I'm lots of things, but I'm not arrogant. But I played it snotty with her, because I was playing with her at her own game, you know? So I begged them to please be thoughtful when they edit the show, because if they make me out to be a huge dick, it could REALLY hurt my career. All of a sudden, the guy who you used to love from TV and Movies has grown up, and he's grown up to be a huge dick.
Perfect. Can I take your order? How about a nice Iced Tea to start, sir?
But here's the thing that I'm really, really upset about: Roxann Dawson, who I don't know at all, was, apparently very offended by something I said on the show. Here's the quote from EW:
So, I feel just terrible. I don't know her, at all, and she seemed very nice to me, and I am really upset that she felt like I was rude to her, and that I was coming on to her, because nothing could be further from the truth.
I doubt it, but if Roxanne reads this, I want her to know that I meant absolutely no disrespect, at all. I am truly, truly sorry for that.
I just feel awful, and I've put in calls to my Star Trek friends, so I can phone her myself, and apologize to her.
*sigh*
Round 1: $17,000 banked
Strongest: Crosby - Weakest: DeLancie
Votes: Dawson 2 (Wheaton, Shatner), DeLancie 2 (Burton, Crosby), Shatner 2 (Picardo, Shimerman), Wheaton 1 (Dawson), Picardo 1 (DeLancie)
Crosby elects to remove DeLancie
Round 2: $13,500 banked (total $30,500)
Strongest: Picardo - Weakest: Shatner
Votes: Shatner 3 (Burton, Picardo, Shimerman), Crosby 2 (Wheaton, Shatner), Wheaton 1 (Dawson), Dawson 1 (Crosby)
Shatner removed
If the above is correct, before he (Shatner) got voted off, Wil and William Shatner voted for the same people. In the first round they voted for Roxann Dawson, and in the second round, they both voted for Denise Crosby. OK, Wil, what's the story? :-)
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When you get on The Weakest Link, then you can decide where you want your money to go. I have to say I agree with all the other people--the EFF is an important foundation, now more than ever, what with the terrorist backlash seriously threatening our civil liberties. It's not just about whether we can watch DVDs on Linux, you know.
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Too bad he didn't use his exit interview to plug the cause again.
Maybe he did, but the exit comments are obviously edited. If he mentioned them again, it would probably have been cut.
If anything impressed me on that show, it was that Armin Shimerman really came off as a class act.
To be honest, I'd never really thought about the human inside that all that makeup before, and somehow I assumed if there were a person he'd be about 4 feet tall.
But he was a real live person. And he managed to be funny, modest, engaging, and do a fair job with the questions too. Really put everyone else to shame. This was my first time watching the show... between Shatner's hamming, Roxann's childish tantrum, and Wheaton's ill-conceived schtick, I was starting to figure that all these actor people are idiots when nobody's around to make sure they stick to a script (okay, no complaints about the two finalists, they seemed sharp and decent too - but Levar, "600"??).
"Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it." -- GBS
So, NBC is now going to donate $10,000 to the EFF. Does anyone else find this kinda funny? :)
And that wink she does at the end of the show to hint to the audience "it's all in good fun" is just creepy.
The Star Trek one is the first episode I have bothered to sit through since the first time I saw it. I would watch it more, because it is a fun concept for a game show, except she annoys the hell out of me.
I think that the dramatic tention that the show's format seems to be trying to cultivate would be much higher if the host was very calm and sympathetic. If I were producing the show, I would offer the job to Peter Faulk (of "Columbo" fame).
To each his own, I guess.
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I seem to remember Junior Achivement as a sort of mobile capitalist indoctrination
Yeah, that's the way the idiot pinko commie traitor crowd in my high school described it, too.
People who didn't have an axe to grind described it as a practical course in developing, marketing, and selling a product. All in all, quite useful knowledge in a world where Marx has been relegated to the ash heap of history, where he belongs.
-jcr
The only title of honor that a tyrant can grant is "Enemy of the State."
if you had a million dollars to invest on a cause, why you'd pick the EFF
When it's *your* million dollars, you get to pick where to spend it.
Personally, I'm very happy that people like John Gilmore are spending millions of dollars to fight for my liberty.
-jcr
The only title of honor that a tyrant can grant is "Enemy of the State."
Yes, he's already said that was a collosal pooch fuck. He made the mistake of playing a character that's about as far removed from himself as possible, without realising that very few people actually know that, and will take him at face value. D'oh
But on the other hand, what the heck. Any publicity is good publicity, right?
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First we have Wil Wheaton on Slashdot, and now Leonard Nimoy!
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I didn't submit this story! Therefore, I'm not on the planet, I'm in an incredibly detailed holographic simulation. Wow. I didn't know that before...
Remember, they always have pissed off people at the exit interviews to Weakest Link. It's a given. They always say something like "I hate her" or "I hope they lose!"
I'm sure she got the joke and was playing along.
"sweet dreams are made of this..."
Wil: Unfortunately, you did come off as an ass... my wife was hoping you'd get axed. I was just glad that Shatner got culled. His antics were... painful. Congrats on going as far as you did... and nice shirt! You gonna start selling those too?
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Spoilers:
Come to think of it, she voted against Wil twice in the first two rounds, so Wil probably was ticked off and got even on round 3 when she gets voted off...
...that we would have a "terrorist backlash" no matter what we did. This whole mess has been building for decades- even if we did nothing they'd keep at it because they think we are the great evil in the world and disapprove of our way of life in the strongest way.
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Every so often ths comes up. Its an act. She's acting. Everyone who gets on the WL eventually gets asked that and the answer is always the same.
Wil Wheaton (ST:TNG)
LeVar Burton (ST:TNG)
Robert Picardo (ST:VOY),(ST:TNG) - He was in first contact, remember?
Denise Crosby (ST:TNG)
Roxann Dawson (ST:VOY)
John DeLancie (ST:TNG,DS9,VOY)
William Shatner (ST:TOS)
Armin Shimerman (ST:DS9),(ST:TNG),(ST:VOY) - He played 2 different Feringi on ST, and he was in the first episode of Voyager.
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Other than that, you did really well -- congrats on making it to the final three. Keep up the good work.
Why is it that the proponents of "one nation under God" are so eager to get rid of "liberty and justice for all"?
Worst case scenario, if we completely give up on helping the poor and wretched, and instead focus on our freedoms, the next generation of us can still come back and help them someday.
Not if they're dead.
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Someone please mod this up, +1, Funny!
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Marx predicted the dominance of capitalism. I think it's Lenin you have a problem with. I believe Marx even wrote a letter to Lenin explaining why Lenin's perversion of Marx's writings were a bad idea. In fact, Marx's writings are probably more relevant than ever as we watch the battle against corporatism unfold (think "Battle of Seattle" and such).
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I've not seen this show yet, but the way Roxann is described here, her 'behaviour' sounds very much in character for Torres. Seems to remind me of the episode where the Vulcan Engineer goes PonFarr on B'lanna.
- It was all in jest. My comments at the end of the show were in keeping with the spirit of our fun sparring. I wish I could even take credit for the idea. It was recomended that I say that by the producers. I thought it was funny.. Its a shame they cut away from my comment before I started laughing. The aim of the show is to create conflict... and I guessthey did. I didn't take offence to Bill Shatner saying he could take me in a fight. What does he think I am, a weak woman?!! LOL Come on everybody "lighten up" We were all having fun. Wil is great and I loved doing the show with him.
I agree... Wil is cool, Roxann was joking -- let's not start calling people names."Anything is better than IE, and you can quote me on that." -- Wil Wheaton.
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