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Million Man LAN
stovey-san writes: "LanWar(EAST: Louisville,KY) and LANtrocity(WEST: L.A., CA) are teaming up to form one of the largest lanparties ever, MillionManLan. Check it out, both sides are to have up to 2,500 participants with linked networks for the ultimate fragfest for a total of 5,000 gamers! Lanwar 12 is starting tomorrow (Sat-Sun) with a sold out 562 gamers, so expectations are high! MML takes off on May 25 for SIX straight days!"
Kentuckians win as I live in california and the closest thing I saw to a real feud is when someone brought meat to a vegan pot lock.
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(From "The Wizard")
I get to start a lan party club at school.
I told the principal me and some friends want to play CounterStrike against each other, and if we could use the schools network. I told him we have our own computers, etc, etc.
He said we could use school computers (some are 700mhz Athlons, so they would run it fine),
and it gets counted as a Club, so I can actually put on my Resume or whatever that I'm the founder of my Schools Lan Party Club.
I sure wish I could make it down to LA that weekend, but unfortunately I will be in Cancun for the whole of May :)
Oh well, I just hope that the West shows the East who's the baddest. Too bad I won't be there to help my team frag them.
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Are lans suddenly "exciting" now ?
I find them extremely tedious, and full of 12 year old CS cheaters^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hplayers
(fp)
And it's usually a good one. Pity I can't make it to LA for some live LANtastic fragging.
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Will this be a good place to pick up hot chicks??
..they'll beat the numbers at the 1995 Million Man March in no time flat.
With the number of gamers out there, ranging from casual to hardcore, why not take this concept one step further? Create the Internet3, a network optimized for gaming.
;)
Of course, you'd have to come up with a cool name for it, otherwise it'll never happen. I suggest "ph4tn3t"
I think you should stop posting this in every new article. It's obviously not doing anything besides being a black hole for mod points. All the editors have done and likely will ever do is deny there's a problem, and mod everything as offtopic.
My suggestion: flood the submission page with articles about this from many users. At the very least Taco will accidentally click "submit" on one instead of "delete".
Imagine 5000 linux freaks all screaming
It would be a fine tribute to the memory of Patrick Bateman, Esq.
Goat sex free since 2001
what i'd really like to know about this lan-thing is who pays for the main event room rent and the electricity and the switch space? the electricity is the main part! we ran a small (25 computer) lan party once and the circuit breaker of the house kept blowing, even with extension cords to various outlets of various circuits. I bet they'll need like 2,000 amps of power for this lan party.
5000 computers, 20-30 servers - 530 total?
210 24 port switches?
I'm curious if some one knows.
I propose they should rename these things from "LAN parties" to "Sysadmin Boot Camp".
hail eris
The only problem with a 6-day LAN party, aside from the fact that you'll need to carry in a fridge to feed yourself, is the fact that undoubtedly many of the people there will be your stereotypical computer nerd. And will not shower. For 6 days. I think that's as good a reason as any to avoid a LAN party that big.
Gawyn
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Sure, lots and lots of people to play, but I honestly don't see how this would be any more fun than going to a LAN for one specific game and having much fewer people. That way competition will be good, tips will be shared, and it is a more personal experience. If I wanted to join this many people I'd just fire up my game server browser and pick one of the thousands of Half-Life games going and play there.
..or any other online game for that matter.
Hmm... Nice pings for you AND all your teammates, that's worth it in and of itself. Play any games you bring, although the big tourneys only feature 3 games, decided by vote.
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Why did it have to be millionMANlan, instead of millionPERSONLAN?
And also an appropriate level map for a death match of 5,000. Maybe something like downtown LA or Area 51.
;-)
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Why do they even bother calling it a "Million Man Lan" if they are only going to accept 5,000?
Seems to me they're undercutting themselves.
-3Suns
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No
Parties with over 5000 people (and that's 5000 in ONE place, no cheating like this) have been around for quiet a while in scandinavia.
:)
Dreamhack and The Gathering (couldn't find a URL) comes to mind.
We're bigger than you!
So, how to 5 thousand participants make this a million man lan party? I believe that they are 995,000 people short.
Kent
They've already reserved space in the University of Loiusville gym for sleeping bags, after a 5 day frag-match I can't imagine the smell of a couple hundred gamers :) On the bright there's a case artist, and while you're having your case customed, get your sore frag muscles (arms?) rubbed by the professional masseur...
ok so i'm going despite the fear of smelly retribution, 5 days of fraggin!
> I find them extremely tedious, and full of 12 year old CS cheaters^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hplayers
Are you kidding?! This is the *dream* of CS players everywhere. If someone seems to be cheating, you can locate him, yank him away from his computer, and SEE if he has any cheat programs loaded up.
And if he does... oh the screams. The wonderful, musical screams of cheaters in agony! Screaming, sobbing, crying out for their mothers! But will their mothers come? NO! Only wave after wave of HORRIBLE, SEARING PAIN!!! I can almost hear them now...
Why no, I don't think I play too much Couterstrike.
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We can have a lot of use for all these 200-man people (1e6/5000=200) attending that party, like sending 200 letters to congressmen, or posting 200 troll messages on /. Oh, wait, nevermind.
Make even shorter URLs - 8LN.org
"MillionManLan" .... "up to 5000 gamers!"
but thats just me
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I was at DesertLAN in the beginning of Dec in Phoenix, AZ. It was the funnest ever. There was a CS Tournament, open gaming, and super monkey ball on a giant projection screen. I dunno how many people there are, but I know if work will allow me... I'll be at MML!
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This is in spite of perfect spelling and grammer.
It was the last year of scaled marks and 20 % was multi choice which had equally correct answers.
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- Kaos games and encryption systems developer
Man, them's gonna be some crusty gamers by Day Six. I think they should do a live webcast of the whole thing. Just imagine the thrill of watching gamers play against 5,000 other gamers. If they'd ever get RealAroma into production, it would even smell like you were there. Haw hawww hawwwwwww... *thud*
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From What kind of a ping can I expect?
Our stats show us that the pings on the main floor average between 30-90 pings.
Do they mean 30-90 ms?
the MillionManLan when only 5000 are competing?
That's 995,000 off!
Wouldn't a million-man LAN be, erm, more of a WAN ?
I'll get me coat.
Kilgore's prediction: East: 548,000 frags vs West: 612,000 frags
Is it just me, or do those figures seem a little low... let's see...5 000 players, at 1 frag per hour each over 6 days is about 720 000 frags...and i certainly hope they can get more than 1 frag per hour...if each got 5 frags per hour, that's 3.6 million frags... Sweet Merciful Crap!
And don't tell me that they won't be going the whole time, because they will...
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In a couple weeks i'm going to visit Boston for a few days, in June i'll be driving through the west of the U.S.A. and in the fall i'll be travelling throughout latin america. It would be nice to have a composite list of events and happenings of interest to computer geeks, including things like Defcon, Dreamhack, Burning Man, MacWorld Expo, YAPC etc. etc.
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Who friggen cares? Just get a cable modem and play on the internet, it's the exact same experience, except you don't have to be in a room with 2000 people who haven't showered in a week.
I can see the point of getting together with a few of your friends and all playing Counterstrike (or whatever), but gatherings this large are pointless. You're paying >$50 to haul your computer over to some warehouse so you can play on some monster LAN that's as anonymous as the net. That strikes me as a dumb waste of money.
alright... I'm bored and the "simpsons" is coming on soon... Yes, as you may have already guessed, "Simpsons" is a clever code-name for mutual masturbation... er... solo masturbation... er... taking viagra and praying to aphrodite for an erection.
Delivery boy: "I've got a truck with pizzas here and loads of beer and red bull"
Organisers: "Alright - who ordered pizza and beer?"
I would so love to see all 5000 hands suddenly go up...
The Gathering, http://www.gathering.org, 5000 people, 5 days starting on Easter every year. Got showers and food of course. They would be larger but they can't find any place big enough to hold more and, last I heard from one of my friend's on the team, turned away ~5000 people last year.
You can get small single board Pentiums with the memory, networking, video and sound hardware all built in. There are many models of these. Some are designed for embedded use, others as industrial computers, and yet others for other purposes. Some can fit in the palm of your hand, and others are a little bigger.
The really cool thing begins by buying a whole mess of these. Even different kinds. Modify a large tower case to contain them, and hack a high end KVM switch into the case, so that a single monitor, keyboard and mouse would be used. In other words, the thing would look like a factory made computer. Little does anybody know, there are, say, 40 computers inside.
Some of these computers would have hard drives, and would contain all the data used by all the others.
One of the computers would have two network interfaces, and would serve as a firewall and NAT "box" for the rest of the box, making it possible to hook up to an external network.
One of the computers would be an X server. Its job would be to display the software running on all the other computers.
All the others would boot various operating systems. You could run all the BSDs, several Linux distros, maybe one with your own Linux From Scratch setup, perhaps one of them would even run OS/2. Several might run VMWare or another virtualization system, so they could run more operating systems while other jobs are going on in the background. You would essentially end up with a "computer" that is actually a whole bunch of computers, running many operating systems and tons of software packages simultaneously.
NOW HERE'S THE COOL PART!
You take that to your next LAN party! Show everyone how you're running all kinds of applications in 20 different operating systems all at the same time, and the system stays very responsive!
Oh well.
"Most number of male virgins gathered in one place."
Wear your nicest anime shirt incase the Guiness people are on hand for a photo.
I'm not sure if gathering is global or what, but they had 20 000 people which is less than 2000/2001 gathering.
- Kaos games and encryption systems developer
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I couldn't find the cost listed on the site. It may be under registration but that requires a member account.
...one of the largest lanparties ever, MillionManLan . Check it out, both sides are to have up to 2,500 participants with linked networks for the ultimate fragfest for a total of 5,000 gamers...
There's going to be 995,000 men there who are not gamers, eh?
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I've been to about 4 or 5 of the Lanwar's in Louisville (Probably around 200 people when I started, up to the 540 one I'm going to tomorrow)... they're a lot more fun than playing online because there's so much more interaction, it's not just some 12-year-old with some stupid handle typing "CHEATER!" at you over and over... the staff is great and all the attendees are nice and friendly. I've never really noticed anyone having serious B.O., especially since everyone is constantly told to bring deoderant in the forums :)
is your confusion between masseur and masseuse. Or maybe it wasn't confusion? Not that there's anything wrong with that....
A 5000 player LAN party is not that much considering that we in Denmark, (a country with 5,5 million citizens) for the past 10 years have held "The Party" with more that 3500 Guests. Take a look at the stats
To build a 6day Million Man Lan!
:)
What do bionic packets sound like?
Dunnnnnnnananananananananana
Brwwwwwwwwweeeeeeeeeeeeeee
I wonder if we will ever get to that bionics stuff into people...
Oregon's Million Man Lan was last fall. The server admins ditched the MML2k organiser and started the Northwest Lan Gaming Association, and they're doing The Promised Lan this spring.
Obligatory disclaimer: I used to date the Parid guy, and I came up with the name. And yes, we asked the Aussies first.
Be nice to that tpl.net server, kids. Oregon/Washington gamers, please go have a look. NWLANGA wants to make this a regular kind of thing.
If there are going to be around 5000 people on the same LAN(even if they are switched), the lag would be horrible. You have to consider the protocols being used. To check for a local server on the LAN, a user needs to broadcast at layer 3 on the OSI model and get around the switches. That means that every time someone looks for the local server, they are going to be broadcasting to 4,999 other people. Do the math. Also, if they have an Internet connection they are going to be creating even more layer 3 traffic that will get broadcasted out all of the ports on the switches. You also have to realize that most people who don't much about networking are not going to disable other protocols that will be running(NEBIOS,IPX, ETC. This is even worse than the traffic from TCP/IP. Ethernet standards suggest about 500 users tops in the same broadcast domain. The only way this could work is if you were to use routers and different networks. This would then negate the LAN party and make it a WAN party. Just a thought.
all the porn you could get off open SMB shares?!?!?
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Hmm... with 5,000 network clients, I'm pretty sure they're going to need quite a few routers and switches. Doesn't that really make it a WAN party? I think I can do that from here.
I don't know what your preferences are, but when we LAN party, we do it in the dark, as much dark as we can accomplish, save the glow of fifteen monitors.
But with so many people, will it be legal or safe to darken the room?
Alternatively, is it really safe to have 2500 grumpy sleepless nerds in one place?
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In reality, No.
But I know that I'd want my hot chick to be a gamer/computer nerd. Someone i can share my obsession with. Now that's a great place to meet people with the same interests.
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The Million Mom March was short by about the same number, too.
This must be a redefinition of "million" in preparation for the devaluation of the Dollar.
Bob-
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Wait, there's some more parmessian pizza dust on your post...
I helped organize a lan for 40 people for 40,000 man-minutes and even that was hard.
christ..the "Million Man March"--a gathering targetting african-american, black, whatever, males--was a show of solidarity and a personal responsibility-taking effort; the social human side of me feels that this coopting of the "Million Man(TM)" part is too strange to comment on, given that the *original* event was about people standing the fuck up and making a goddamn difference in this shitty world!
(...the "simple entity" side of me of course thinks it's cool and wishes it wasn't such a punk at playing video games as well)
i guess i take this 'personal' on a level, but that's my virtue chip kicking in...just thoughts.
(and i dig the paranoic who pointed out that the FEDS--yuck--could (neigh, would) utilize this marvel of networkability to play mini-[God] in order that they may further subvert simple human cyber-liberties.
never underestimate the punks)
take care all--care about you all
metan01d
Lanwar 12 is starting tomorrow (Sat-Sun)
and you're telling me now?:)
by the way, does anyone knows any online (European) Lanparty agenda?
Can you imagine a beowulf cluster of these?
(which doesn't matter to me, my nose doesn't work, ha!), this sounds like a neat thing. A few years ago (okay, better part of a decade ago), I was involved with the Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts' first Expo. (predecessor to the Atlanta Linux Showcase) We got a room down at Georgia Tech, and it was really much like a LAN party before LAN parties were common-- folks brought their own machines in and ran the demos that way, showing to the public what Linux could do, what hardware it could run on, and all sorts of cool stuff.
Now, we had a few dozen machines there, and the infrastructure was non-trivial. Finding a place to host it was tough to begin with, and then, half-way through, I found myself throwing an extension cord over a balcony because we'd blown one of the breakers downstairs. How do you power 5,000 gamers and their Uber-Gamer rigs with the overclocked Athlons and the neon lights under the hood?
We could get away with just a few cheap 10 megabit hubs, but gamers? 5,000 gamers? You're going to need more than just standard 100 megabit switches; you're really looking at Cisco Catalyst class hardware. The infrastructure to this thing, set up for only six days, must be mind-boggling. And you know how it always goes, you show up to a LAN party and there's always one guy who can't seem to get his machine on the network... Now there's a thousand of him... How do you schedule games? There's 5,000 people here, you're not gonna want to frag the same ones for six days straight...
And after you've looked at all that, how you do it all at a price that'll still attract 5000 gamers, that's the impressive part...
-JDF
I just had my own LAN party yesterday with 5 other people coming over for a day of gaming fun. We had a great time but I'm wondering if anyone has any tips or tricks relating to LAN parties?
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Hrm, I'd like to see this type of person come and check me for cheats. They'd get dumbfounded to find me in Linux with EHL.. wondering what I was running.. *smirk*.
"worst.spelling.ever."
Seriously, is this guy's spelling error really important enough that you'd waste the time to respond?
(yes, I realize the hypocrisy of this remark)
Take life a little too seriously, much?
Well, i was at the Lanwar 12 (east) and there were a few fine women there, playing counterstrike nonetheless. one did seem to need some help from time to time, but the fact that she was there, with her box, and playing was impressive...