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jlttb writes "LinuxWorld gets under way this week in New York City, and CRN has some extensive preview coverage this morning, including a look at Raptor, IBM's first Linux mainframe, and other IBM and Compaq Linux servers to be announced at the show. A second feature takes a look at the growth of the Linux services channel, from industry heavyweights like IBM, Compaq, Red Hat and Caldera, to smaller 'mom and pop' Microsoft and Novell shops that are re-focusing on Linux. Finally, the magazine looks at how Microsoft and Sun are each fighting back against the gains made by Linux in corporate America." I still haven't packed yet, but I'm looking forward
to the show.
Yesterday, during one of the football playoffs, I saw an IBM commercial. In the background was a guy in a Tux suit...
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Linux World? That's a little ambitious, isn't it?
LinuxCity is more realistic. Or maybe they could stretch it to LinuxState at the max...
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Anyone there doing live video or something??
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Anyone have a link to some play-by-play action??
My boss would not let me attend
really cool to see Linux making strides in the mainframe department. I guess after that, the desktop is the next frontier.
Esse quam vederi.
I wonder what could be done to encroach more on theMS market, given the recent stumbles by MS in the market (perpetual license rental, etc.)
"It is a greater offense to steal men's labor, than their clothes"
There were at least 4 unique commercials with this theme, the best one was when the team "management" paid a consultant 5 million and all he ended up doing was explaining what a triangle was, it reminds me of a friend I have who works at Accenture..
I spent a good 30 mins last night searching around for where I could download these commercials, but I had no success. Does anyone know where to find these? I know IBM had the codernaut commericials available for download.
10 years? Yeah, right. Can we say "Me too! Me too!" Compaq would have a hard time finding a clue if it were superglued to its collective face. Any company that would buy the alpha just to watch it die does not deserve any respect.
morons.
~Sean
Actually, not offtopic, but that's the way it goes : (
Wired has a preview too. Check it out here
2. The all-too-familiar reports about how "corporate" the show has become.
3. The all-too-familiar reports about attendence being lower, but still impressive.
4. Lots of evidence that Linux is continuuing to do well in the embedded space, as well as servers (see #1 above).
5. Not so much as a hint that Linux is making any real inroads into the desktop market. This will not change, thanks to the utter indifference to that segment shown by IBM, RH, and some (but not all) other major players.
Comment on article and I get this:
/Components/TalkBack/tb-post.asp, line 92 :P
Microsoft VBScript runtime error '800a0006'
Overflow: 'Cint'
Maybe somebody there should consider Linux
Well, I'm already in Florence(read: bumfuck egypt), New Jersey staying with friends. I'm taking the train up to the city tomorrow morning, check into my hotel, grab my boxen, get to my booth, set it up, and hook up my machines tomorrow. I wonder if they'll actually have network access early this year. Last year january, they didn't have network live (in the .org pavillion) till wednesday.
.org pavillion after hours. That just pissed me off. They cut the power at like EXACTLY 6pm. I was hosting one of my websites off of it, and lost everything when I lost the partition my MySQL databases were on. .ORG pavillion exhibitors, be warned, they might do this again. This year I'm using ext3, so hopefully if they pull the power, my shit won't be lost.
:)
I'm also hoping they don't go weasel again like they did in SFO last august and turn off the power to the
Also, if you're exhibiting, don't leave your laptops, or anything else that can be easily stolen, in your booth. My and hadess's laptops got stolen. The depressing thing is that the last picture of his laptop (an ibook, you know, the toilet seat-looking ones) was taken by myself after the IBM party. I feel really bad that the laptop got stolen too. I almost feel as though it's my fault. The thing is, is that they rummaged THROUGH the booth and took it. My laptop was in the little cabinet thing inside the booth, so they must have been there a while. I just can't believe that security was so lax that they'd let someone like that just walk in and out with them. It's quite depressing.
This year I'm taking no chances though. I'm bringing locks for everything, I'm going to be taking my computers back to my hotel with me every night, and I'm definitely NOT going to be leaving ANYTHING in my booth. I guess I just had too much trust in their staff.
BTW, I am going to be setting up a wireless access point in my booth. If you need wireless networking, set your ESSID to "tux0r". I'll happily share my bw with anyone who wants it.
I can't think of anything else to really say, other than stop by my booth (BOFH International, booth #7, way in the back, right side, by mandrakesoft) and say hi.
-- John
Yeah, they should use an OpenSource solution, much like Slashdot. We all know that Slashdot never gets MySQL errors, either!
Seriously, though, its not so much the manufacturer of the backend, its the skill of the programmer. In this case it looks like the programmer didn't quality check his code enough.
Last night I shot an elephant in my pajamas. How he got in my pajamas I'll never know.
The big issue is an increasing antipathy to Microsoft's licensing and upgrade practices
Finally, someone in the press admitted that Microsoft's licensing practices make a difference. It seems that as Microsoft has gotten increasingly draconian with their licensing schemes, corporations have began to look beyond Microsoft to open source software. Once corporate America has a taste of open source, they'll never go back to proprietary software. If this trend continues, there will come a time when a VP suggesting that the company buy an OS will get laughed out of the boardroom. Which, of course, can only be good for all of us.
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I went to the first NYC LinuxWorld two years ago, and had a great time. There were tons of great people there, tons of interesting and respectable companies. I had a ton of fun just hanging out with people that had previously only been an email address - truly an affecting experience.
But last year was very different. The focus wasn't people, the focus was on startups. "Linux" companies that had little to no clue, just trying to cash in on year-old hype. The big guns used it as an excuse to glam up their trade booths and loose their down-to-earth technical aspects. SGI's XFS team were the only people willing to have a serious technical discussion with me. Wading through so much marketing bullshit really blew. Wandering over to the "dot org pavillion" showed a tremendous downsizing of support for important community projects. While they previously recieved a good chunk of floor space in which to present things, they'd been reduced to vacant and tiny cubes.
LinuxWorld seems to have become little more than commercial interests trying to pry money out of the community, without remembering *why* they have a product to expo.
Dr. Shwaglove!
or How I Learned to Stop Caring And Fill My Backpack With As Much Linux Propoganda That It Can Hold!!!
My #1 LinuxWorld Prediction:
CmdrTaco will make appearances at the OSDN booth, acting like he is some sort of celebrity, waiting for the hot linux babes to scream, "Oh CmdrTaco, please tell us over and over how many hits Slashdot gets in a day!"
-gerbik
so many references to "micro$oft and sun facing the new threat of linux ..." isn't ms the only one really facing a "threat"? solaris is good for some things, linux is good for others (both are happy on those new sunfires!) and together they make a pretty solid scalable world. perhaps we need -openworld- where ms is not invited unless they have a few APIs you can write to for free ...
when it rains, it gets real soggy. when it pours, i'm under the tap just _waiting_ for the joy
Bynari Insight Server and Caldera Volution aim at this space but I'm uncertain about their reliability. iPlanet also do but Solaris is always going to be their priority platform.
It seems to me that this is geared more towards Linux server solutions instead of actually addressing the one main component linux needs to succeed - the desktop. The article fails to discuss anything else besides unveiling servers. Since we've already established that linux can be a server-based OS, let's work on THE CONSUMER! Tux has forgotten the end user.
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Slash 2.2.2 was just released (actually, the friend/foe stuff has been live for some time, though hidden because the icons weren't on comments). Slash 2.3 is likely to be released before Linuxworld (end of January).
OK -- Linuxworld is beginning and ...
Seastead this.
Legitimate question: what the heck is a channel? I keep reading different sales magazines, and just like the linked article they use the term "sales channel" without explanation. I think I can grok it from context, but I'd be grateful if someone could fill me in here...
Carousel is a lie!
What is this ? A joke ? Lets see you write a device driver in VB let alone rewrite Linux !! Man, you are screwed up !
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What will the network look like at LinuxWorld? Does anyone know what type of proxy they will have for internet access? I want to see what kind of work I will be able to get done there during the calm at the conference.
RTNz
LOL this guy's obviously never had to run anything serious on a MS server OS, and out up with the huge $$$ running costs, "windows knows" best attitiude ~"if you can't see it in the GUI config tools - you don't need to know" or just the sheer inflexibilty of it all.
:P Linux is even easy to configure these days - with Webmin, I can even get NT admins to do some :P
:)
Nobody's being overzealous in this thread - although it does happen - but then what are you if not an MS zealot with that outburst??
I don't hate MS - but as a system architect and network admin for many years, I know the value of LInux to me - theres so much maturity in the tools, and so much flexibility - it all works out of the box - you don't need to go buy anything else - it pretty much handles any server task as is (I'm using RedHat 7.2 right now), and it stays up!!
Next to Redhat, MS server OS's are the ones that look like they were designed by Fisher Price - for years 3-6
hehe it;s MS who's been beating the very lame looking NT/2000/XP horse for years now - they keep attaching extra legs and it seems to move, and even looks a bit like a horse, but underneath theres the carcass of something smelly from about 1992
All I can say to you - is "just try it" If you do have a server application to run - try it on Linux.
Right now I'm installing Oracle9i on RedHat 7.2 on a Dell 6450 - the OS installed in 15 minutes - try that with XP/2000! I have all the networking tools you could ever need, and I know it will be more reliable than the same thing on NT.
Linux Sucks Windows Roolz! Just look at the market share for Windows on the desktop system for proof you bunch of blind rats!
Ford have a higher market share than Ferrari. But I know which car I would prefer. Market share has never been a measure of how good any product is.
perl -e 'print $i=pack(c5, (41*2), sqrt(7056), (unpack(c,H)-2), oct(115), 10);'
Never confuse distro X with Linux. Go over to the Linux From Scratch page- Linux can be very small indeed when custom tailored to its' environment. When the distros try to be 'one solution for everyone' they are guaranteed - proven thanks to Microsoft - that bloat will inevitably ensue.
As a counterpoint- I don't want to argue *BSD versus Linux - nor KDE versus GNOME - nor EMACS versus Vi. Can't we realize that these differences empower us- indeed, challenge us- to find the 'most superior' solution? After all, without a struggle, there can be no change.
Do you like Japanese imports?
all the links have ".asp". i can't read this.
"Asking me about Linux is like asking the Pope about the existence of God"
Linus Torvalds
Yes, Office users probably range from 5%-20% of Office's functionality. Unfortunately, outside of the 5% common stuff, the other portions that people use are different.
If you are throwing together high school papers, you don't need word. However, for a corporate environment, they are powerful.
Look, if you don't need Office, you don't buy Office. MS Works exists, and it is similar in capability to Apple's AppleWorks and most of the "Free" office suites.
The problem is the people that push these apps. Take Excel. If you just did some graphing in high school chem, you may be satisfied with Gnumetric. Have you ever seen a real finance guru with Excel? They churn out really complex items. What does this mean for the rest of the corporation? If I want to view their spreadsheets, I need Excel. Therefore, anyone in the Enterprise that needs to work with these spreadsheets needs excel.
Now it doesn't matter that 90% of the Enterprise doesn't need Excel's features for their work, another 20% may work with the finance people that are cranking out excel.
Now we have Access. Access is a silly app, but it is damned convenient for basic databases. Sure, I can crank out an impressive web GUI and build a real database on PostgreSQL, but if a small department wants something without clearing it by IT, Access gets them up and running quickly.
Powerpoint?
Powerpoint sucks, everyone who uses it knows that it sucks.
Name a competitor that sucks less. (Please, I've been looking for a better product, I can't find one). However, if you need a quick presentation, it gets the job done. It's easy to use, and everyone either HAS Powerpoint (from Office) or can get the free viewer (which you can send them). It is a quick way to send ideas including graphical explanations.
Word is extremely flexible. Most people in the organization don't need it. However, a handful likely push Word to its limits. They build the templates and otherwise utilize its features. Now, if the rest of the company is using Word, they can leverage these creations. No Word? No luck.
Sure, VBA isn't useful for most users. If your IT department found a use for it, then they'll crank stuff out. I've been at clients that really use VBA, and many that never use it.
If you guys spent 10% of the time in various IT rooms at real companies instead of listening to other Linux-heads on Slashdot you'd understand Linux's deficiencies on the desktop.
For a home computer, Linux is adequate. For a corporate environment, most need more.
Ya know, for all Outlook's security problems, the group scheduling and other features when combined with Exchange are REALLY powerful.
Alex
Since when is VB considered an actual programming language?
~Aero
Will there be another episode of Geeks In Space?
Please......
Pretty Please.............
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(as is this one)
(please Lord, make the filter go away)
(*sob*, i just wanted to get a +5, Funny, can't you just let me post?)
I learned Latin in high school. It's a dead language too. Does that mean C will be easier for me to learn? Any family resemblance?
Sig?
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