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Smallest RC Cars?

fredhsu writes: "My brother-in-law bought two micro RC cars in Japan for me. They are both smaller than a matchbox. DigiQ from Takara is infrared-controlled, has two independent rear wheels powered by two tiny motors, and comes with a pistol-style analog controller. Bit Char-G from Tomy (Tomica) is radio-controlled, single-motor rear wheel drive, front wheel steering, and comes with an awkward controller with forward/backward + left/right switches. You really need to see the video clips to appreciate how small and maneuverable these cars are. I personally like DigiQ more, because of its powerful motors and analog controls. On the other hand, Bit Char-G has an extensive line of hop-ups and accessories. DigiQ sells for $50-$80 and Bit Char-G for $30-$50."

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  1. Old Trick by RobertTaylor · · Score: 3, Interesting

    About five years ago I used to have a Tomy Char-G and played around with it in the office. In the UK there was a limited range, of around 4 colours, each with their own frequency (ie. red controller with red car etc).

    As a result syncronised char-g races occured, with several cars of the same colour being controlled by one handset! Quite fun ;)

  2. Bit Char-G is cool by jamesidm · · Score: 4, Informative

    I have a Bit Char-G, and it is pretty cool. It comes in kit form and you build it yourself. To drive it is ok, but better if you leave the chasis off (you can spin a lot better with less weight). You place the car on the side of the controller to charge it up before you use it, so no heavy batteries are on the car. The charged up car lasts about 2-3 mins before needing charging again but it is pretty cool.

    1. Re:Bit Char-G is cool by Don't+Exist · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yes, and you charge the thing for about 45 seconds to get about two minutes of racing. Just remember to pull out the antenna on the controller all the way and point it in the direction of the car to get the most range which is about 5 metres. 4 of these things make good racing on hard floors in the corridor! Just put a few cones or obstacles and race around them!

  3. those are kind of cool... by Goofy+Gavin · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...but i'm holding out for nanocars. four rotating carbons for tires... a few silicons for the body... and you can drive them in your bloodstream! :D

  4. turrets by jazzman45 · · Score: 2, Funny

    bit char-g
    BITCH ARG!!!

    1. Re:turrets by llamalicious · · Score: 2

      did you mean tourettes?

  5. thinkgeek! by \\ · · Score: 3, Informative

    thinkgeek sells little mini "desk rovers" like these, which look too damn cool.

    1. Re:thinkgeek! by IIOIOOIOO · · Score: 2, Informative

      I own three of those tanks, and they're pretty lame. The ir guns don't sense properly, the treads constantly come off, they're slow on any surface, and won't go at all on carpet.

    2. Re:thinkgeek! by GTRacer · · Score: 2
      ...it's still sitting in a cupboard.

      Can I have it then? ;-)

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  6. Uses! by FarHat · · Score: 4, Funny

    Now attach an X10 cam to this and have all those upskirt views you've always craved :)

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  7. Re:Hmm... by DrSkwid · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I wonder what the army and their "toys" are capable of...

    murdering people in unimaginably painful ways

    oh, and eating 4 year old macaroni cheese!

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  8. High price-to-size ratio by Monte · · Score: 2, Funny

    I can just imagine making my way to the euphamism on a dark night and CRUNCH - there's eighty bucks down the drain.

  9. RC cars? by cperciva · · Score: 5, Funny

    Personally, I'd rather have RC helicopters. Yes, I know their batteries wouldn't last long... but in an office environment, tiny cars aren't going to get very far, given the amount of clutter which would obstruct them. Helicopters, on the other hand, could fly over cubicle walls to attack people...

    1. Re:RC cars? by Chelloveck · · Score: 3, Funny

      Now there's a way to make your first million. Market a line of affordable RC Nerf Attack Helicopters.

      Even better if they were programmable and could be used autonomously. "Nerf Mindstorms". Oooh, I could rule this office!

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    2. Re:RC cars? by don_carnage · · Score: 3, Interesting

      This is probably bigger than you're thinking, but cool none-the-less: Draganflyer.

    3. Re:RC cars? by tramm · · Score: 3, Informative
      You can help develop a Free Software autonomous helicopter. The current hardware is a bit too large to fit on the smaller electric helicopters, but most glow or gas engine rotorcraft will work.

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    4. Re:RC cars? by javatips · · Score: 2

      A small RC blimp would be far more appropriate. No need to spend energy just to stay up. Also when it's not moving, it can go to standby mode.

      The only problem I see is air conditioning vent. This could make it's live a little bit harder in some part of the office.

    5. Re:RC cars? by CaseyB · · Score: 2

      The trouble is that RC blimps don't scale down (below the 10 foot range) very well. They tend to be very delicate, spidery contraptions.

    6. Re:RC cars? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      They DO have indoor RC helicopters.

      > Now attach an X10 cam to this and have all
      > those upskirt views you've always craved :)

      They even have attachable microcameras.

      Both here

      AGS.

  10. But...... How Fast... by phunhippy · · Score: 2

    they say: World's fastest - up to 4 times faster than other micro R/C cars

    So how fast do the others go?

    Inquring minds want to know....

  11. Not as small, but much more capable... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Is the HPI Micro RS4. They are 1/18th scale, I think that makes them around 7-8 inches long. These use standard radios & servos, and are all wheel drive, while still being small enough to rip through the office. They can even be run off standard alkaline batteries, or the standard R/C rechargable packs. (And can drive for up to 40 minutes on 4 AA's)

    1. Re:Not as small, but much more capable... by Boone^ · · Score: 2

      they've got a little too much acceleration to be used in the office. We've raced them on outside basketball courts, with custom 6 cell AA NiMH 1600 MAh packs for them, and the standard motor is just burning when the pack starts dumping. :) We use Hitec HS-81MG servos, the metal gears are almost a requirement.

      If you want an office racer, go with the 2 wheel drive Kyosho Mini-Z

    2. Re:Not as small, but much more capable... by Boone^ · · Score: 2

      Indeed. We race 1:10 scale AWD touring cars up in Brooklyn Park, MN, and thought that getting Micro RS4's would be sweet for some basement and driveway racing. They're very solid cars on lots of surfaces, but with their acceleration and distinct lack of weight it's like you're trying to turn a buggy on clay... there's some power sliding going on. ;)

  12. Mini-z anyone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    I've had my Mini-z for more than a year now, they are really neat. But quite expensive here in sweden, around 150 USD.
    And you can spend a fortune on extra parts...
    http://www.kyosho.com/cars/kyod01x1.html

    1. Re:Mini-z anyone? by Daniel+Rutter · · Score: 2

      I review the Mini-Z here, by the way. Lots of pretty pictures of stock and hopped-up cars.

  13. Such fun by kerincosford · · Score: 4, Informative

    We've got a couple of these in our office, that someone brough back from Tokyo.

    They're so much fun its just silly. Incredibly detailed too - we've got different suspension kits, bodytypes and drift tyres, so we can do powerslides around the desks. Amazing little things. Fast as hell too.

    Why are they so hard to get hold of in the UK? I'd gladly buy a raft of these.

  14. robot wars/battlebots by Bazman · · Score: 2

    In the UK, Robot Wars had a 'flyweight' category, which they played in a miniature version of the main arena, about a metre square. The robots were a bit bigger than matchboxes, but some had flippers and spikes. Great to watch the little things whizzing about, and it wasn't long before half of them were just running round in circles.

    I think one even got flipped right out of the arena.

    1. Re:robot wars/battlebots by Hektor_Troy · · Score: 2

      "I think one even got flipped right out of the arena."

      That happened to one of the full-grown robots as well. Can't remember the name of the winning bot, but they got a bit cocky and charged the house robots. I think they even managed to flip Matilda ...

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  15. You must be kidding? by ErikZ · · Score: 2, Interesting


    45 seconds of battery charge? I guess they designed it so it wouldn't run out of power during the commericals to sell the thing.

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    1. Re:You must be kidding? by JPriest · · Score: 2, Informative

      from the DigiQ site:
      "Dual Ni-MH batteries allows a 15-min run time w/ a 10-min charge"

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  16. Hoverfly miniature helicopter by cybergibbons · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If you want a really cool toy - get one of these.

    Snelflight hoverfly helicopter

    It's a tiny little tethered helicopter which uses a motor and propellor at the end of each blade, so it doesn't work quite the same as a normal rc helicopter, but the control box means that the controls are the same.

    Quite expensive, but very cool

  17. Seiko Epson EMRoS by SubtleNuance · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Not totally unrelated but i always found this interesting: Have a look at Seiko/Epson's EMRoS or "Epson Micro Robot System" here and here

    Neat little buggers, not made with pager parts as these Radio/IR Cars are, instead made with watch parts.

  18. Bit Char-G Review by The+Whinger · · Score: 5, Informative

    There is a review of the Bit Char-G here.

    It includes some better images.

    1. Re:Bit Char-G Review by The+Whinger · · Score: 3, Informative

      ... and more information on the Digi-Q here.

  19. stolen from an AC by SubtleNuance · · Score: 3, Interesting
  20. heli and saucer by profeti · · Score: 3, Informative

    Keyence (Japan) has an heli and something called Gyrosaucer, which looks like it could be pretty cool. They also have a mini tractor tralier .

  21. electric R/C Helicopter for indoor flight by mks113 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Take a look at the Piccolo helicopter. A definite flyweight, but bigger than the cars! It is meant for indoor flight.

    1. Re:electric R/C Helicopter for indoor flight by psych031337 · · Score: 2

      ...and then there is also this baby...

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  22. Hmmm, gives me an idea.... by imac.usr · · Score: 2
    Mix:
    2-4 of these cars
    some Lego figures
    iMovie + digital camcorder


    Why wait two years for the sequel to "The Fast And The Furious" when you can make your own?

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    1. Re:Hmmm, gives me an idea.... by No+Such+Agency · · Score: 2

      It'd have better acting than the original too!

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  23. Perfect cat toy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    This could top even the classic laser pointer
    cat toy.

    Hm... image processing for feline paw
    auto-evade seriously needed.

  24. Epoch by GizmoToy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Not so long ago my girlfriend imported an Epoch Indoor Racer from Japan. While a little bigger than the cars talked about here, they're a whole lot neater. Real suspension, proportional steering, limited slip differential, and charge up in about 20 seconds. Extremely cool. It's built on a 1/42 scale, making them slightly larger than matchbox cars, but smaller than a CD.

    Also, if you're more the tinkering type, check out Tyco's Canned Heats. I have four of those things lying around in varying states of completeness. They're really easy to modify, so you can make then go faster and whatnot. Pretty fun.

  25. I've used the DigiQ... not impressed by usa35.com · · Score: 2

    It was fun for about 5 minutes, but the little bugger never wanted to go straight and the IR didn't always seem to connect solidly. Plus, the flooring you use it on has to be perfectly smooth. The kitchen tile we tried it on made the thing hop around and change direction.

    My wife is Japanese, so when we were seeing some Japanese friends in Amsterdam they had all the cool Japanese toys for their kid. Lots of fun!

    Someone mentioned RC helicopters. If you want to have a good indoor one, I've got an Eco Piccolo that works great indoors.

    Here's some random guy's site with good Piccolo pics:
    http://www.modelaviation.co.uk/heli/models/ piccolo /piccolo.htm

  26. Uses: Cat toy! by BlueStreak · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Hmmm... if I were to attach a small piece of string or cover the car in the fake fur (found on cheap toy mice) I'd have a very easy way to keep my cats entertained and in shape!

  27. Re:RC helicopters... by No+Such+Agency · · Score: 2

    I can only imagine these things, lots of fun, until somebody loses an eye. At least when Mabel from HR walks into one of these things and needs facial surgery, she'll sue your employer and not you.

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  28. Re:Rock Bottom by chrysrobyn · · Score: 3, Funny

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  29. Re:RC helicopters... by sharkey · · Score: 2

    I can only imagine these things, lots of fun, until somebody loses an eye.

    Remember, it's all fun and games until somebody loses an eye. Then, it's just fun.

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  30. rc car w/ wireless camera by austad · · Score: 2

    A few months back, there was a link to a tiny remote control car/rover thing with a wireless camera so you could beam images back to your computer monitor. Does anyone have a link to this? I can't find it anymore.

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    1. Re:rc car w/ wireless camera by tb3 · · Score: 2

      That's the Desk Rover. There's a link above to ThinkGeek, but they don't have the camera. Here's the link to the manufacturer and you might want to try a Google search.

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  31. Micro-R/C gonna be big next Xmas... by hockeyrink · · Score: 2, Informative

    I just came back from the New York Toy Fair in February, where I made note of 4 different distributors of these devices.

    The original was by Tomy, being imported as "R/C MicroSizers". The others were Chinese knock-offs (very common in the toy industry...) called "Z-Cars R/C". I think the other was called "Canned Heat, where the cars were packaged in transparent cans. Can't recall the name of the last one.

    All the cars at the toy show only had the FCC clearance for the 45 and 27Mhz frequencies, unlike the Tokyo/Tomy, which offered those plus the 57 and 35MHz. Hard to play 4-man R/C car soccer on only 2 frequencies...

    The price will come down when they hit North American shores in volume, especially with the Chinese knock-offs costing almost 1/2 as much as the Tomy models, although the $40USD/ea I paid for my originals from Hong Kong were well worth it!

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  32. REALLY small RC cars by John+Harrison · · Score: 2

    In one of my CS classes (I think it was AI but memory is such a flimsy thing) we watched a video on some crazy Japanese micro cars. These things were less than 1 centimeter in length. The wheels were so small that if you lubricated the axels it would cause them to bind. They looked pretty cool darting around on a table. You could really bother your cats with one. Didn't work too well on carpet though....

  33. Interesting Tomy Fact... by cr0sh · · Score: 2

    Tomy is a strange company - they used to sell quite a few "neat" products here in the States back in the 80's (Omnibot robot line, Air Jammer vehicles) - but lately all you can find are "toddler" toys. It is interesting that they (if it is the same company - Tomica=Tomy?) are selling these small racers now.

    What is more interesting is the fact that Tomy made, in a limited silver-plated edition, given only to top executives (or some other such), an "ultra-tiny" (like, about the diameter of a quarter and a couple of inches tall) programmable "omnibot" (it was of the Omnibot line - just not available to general public). Very, very few of these robots were made. I have only seen one come up for auction on Ebay - it went for several thousand dollars, IIRC. These robots were made and given out in the early-to-mid 1980's.

    The tech behind all of this has a long history - it is by no means "new"...

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  34. My Idea: Privatize the war on terrorism by t0qer · · Score: 4, Funny
    Humor, not to be taken seriously

    Imagine this: The Pentagon offers to transport, arm, and fuel home-built drone aircraft to fly against Al Qaeda. Your aircraft must meet the following requirements:
    • On-board GPS
    • On-board video capability
    • Must be controlled via a soon-to-be-built wireless IP network in (let's say Somalia)
    • 500-pound payload
    From the comfort of your home, you can patrol your Pentagon-assigned territory, and engage targets as designated by the JSTARS targeting system.

    I figure the Pentagon can probably turn a profit by charging fees as they provide what is essentially the world's most realistic flight simulator. As an added bonus, they could sell the TV rights to the on-board video. Wouldn't it be fun to watch "The World's Most Terrified Terrorists"? Imagine what the MIT folks could build for this mission!

    I think the most ironic part of the whole idea is that it turns the tables on the bad guys. Under this scenario, their most terrfying time of day would be when school gets out in the US. "Oh no! Schools out! Everyone head for the caves!"

    What a neat application for embedded Linux.