If you read it again perhaps you'll see what I was describing was an internal struggle as honestly as I could and in context. I needed to write it and included it in the hope that others might benefit from reading it. Hate is a perfectly valid emotion, how we deal with it and the actions we take is what separates the humans from the filth.
Also, I certainly wasn't suggesting genocide or WWIII (full scale nuclear war) or any such thing. This will be a very different kind of war and we are in it for as long as it takes to root out all those who would do such a thing, those that provide aid and comfort (physical or rhetorical), or cheer. And we will find them wherever they are within our borders or abroad, there will be no rock under which to hide. Equivocators and vultures your on that list too.
First: I would urge everyone to be very aware that not everything we read, regardless of source or attribution, is as it seems. We MUST act with reason and common sense, checking to make sure misinformation isn't used to compound these heinous acts. These bastards want to destroy us, Americans and all of the civilized people of the World, we must not allow it. As we have seen the civilized leaders of the world, even those with whom we have serious political differences, pledge to join us in what must be a massive fight against all those who would seek to destroy civilization and we must hold them to it.
We have already seen extremist from the left and the right, within and without, attempt to advance their "cause" on the back of this tragedy. Surely just as horrendous a crime as the act itself. These extremists must also be dealt with.
I am certain good will prevail over evil.
Second: Tuesday we were all made combatants in this War, we must support our military response. And, perhaps more importantly, all of us must defend the world economy. Remember that it is completely in our hands and minds. Consider Monday the bottom of the economic downturn. Invest prudently, but invest. Buy wisely, but buy. And be vigilant of those who try to gouge or otherwise unfairly profit from this.
Third: I'm a first generation American. My parents were driven from Iran by this same Islamic filth (I'm sorry but I can't help but be prejudice, and feel hate for them all. All I can do is try not to act on it). Deep within me is a hatred of that religion, all religion. They killed more than half of all the people my family knew and loved, stole all they had worked for and filled their lives with pain and terror. Even before the "fundamentalists" took over, my family (Zoroastrian and Catholics) and many others were persecuted for their faith, the cloths they wore, the food they ate (they kill people for drinking wine or eating ham ). I say these things not to spread my hate, It's my burden to bear and I don't wish it on my worst enemy. I say it so I can point out that although I'm filled with hate for ALL muslims and all Gods, my parents are not and didn't teach it to me. They know and love a lot of muslims, muslims helped them flee certain death. But those muslims were secular, they acted in the name of humanity not in the name of Allah. Beware of ANYONE who presumes to act or speak in the name of any god. I understand that some people feel they need faith in gods to be good people , and I try to be respectful when I can but it has gone too far for too long.
Lastly: To all those like me who owe their very existence to this great nation, it's our turn. Half a century ago the descendants of european immigrants went by the tens thousands to the homeland of their ancestors to rid the earth of a great evil. We must do the same, the battles will be fought differently but in the end we too shall prevail. I have great faith in America and the civilized people of the world. This is not a time to wave the flag, it is a time to display it proudly and put all our efforts into the task at hand. Victory at any cost.
thanks for the lucid response. Given tuesdays events this whole discussion seems trivial (at least for the moment). But perhaps the best thing we can do is return to the "trivial".
MS owns about 5% of apple, and I think apple will be the company that brings MS down. And funny you mentioned Christ, Muhammed, and Buddha because IMO it comes down to a single individual, a LEADER to make any company successful. BG got his chance to make MS "great" when Jobs left apple in '85, now SJ has another shot, we'll see what happens.
What the linux movement is lacking is leadership, I know it is supposed to be leaderless, and that's the fatal flaw (IMO). I don't think it is naive to think someone can de-throne MS in the market regardless of the power or how they use it, and BG doesn't either he's paraniod that "he" is out there and will do a DOS-IBM. It may take years, but I don't think the antitrust route is the way to go.
We can not let this cripple the economy. Buy stock when the market reopens, even if it is just a few shares. Don't let these filthy cowards get what they want. We are not afraid, just enraged.
Why not get together and put your money, talents and intellects where your collective mouths are?
Build a company that will kick Microsoft's ass in the marketplace. If each of you were to throw in say $1k and perhaps build on some existing projects, I'm sure you could come up with products that would be superior to the stuff MS puts out (not much of a challenge). Then all you need to do is to be really good at selling it (if you don't want to make a profit that is up to you but you need to make the masses want and need it). I'm absolutely serious here and don't intend to sound sarcastic.
Now I know someone will say "M$ will destroy any company that tries to compete with them" but that doesn't fly, it's just an excuse, if your better at playing the game you win. Logic and history suggest that no entity, regardless of power or abuse there of, is unstoppable.
Any takers ?
For the record: I think that most MS products suck, bless there little hearts they just aren't very good at writing software, but they sure know how to sell the stuff. And I'm typing this from OS X.
Clark is a lying sack of shit. He just wants to hold on to his cash since he has driven so many companies into the ground. I guess he wasn't able to steal enough VC money (read: the pensions of millions of blue collar workers) before those companies went under.
Stem cell research: If it was really so promising, if there was even the slightest chance to find a cure for anything, private funds would be flooding in.
Federal spending on research: There should be none, zero. Federal funds should only be spent on national defense and foreign affairs (and a few other little things) as set out in the Constitution.
As for the "moral" debate: Let me say upfront that Gods are for idiots. Abortion is murder (and I think there should be many more). ot: Fur is HUNTING or TRAPPING or SLAUGHTERING.
The notion that we spend any money (public or private) to cure or maintain genetically inferior people is OBSCENE. Evolution works best when left alone. The core of the current debate is: Should we use frozen embryos not used by infertile couples for research. First, this is genetic material from people (at least one of them) that can't even REPRODUCE without massive intervention. And the idea is that we MAY find treatments to keep more evolutionary dead ends alive. This nonsense MUST be stopped at any cost.
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This is what an IPO can do to people. I've noticed that the News is slower and the Stuff matters not so much. I suppose it's fine if people want to celebrate the moments of thier lives with others especially when they have a platform to do it. TV networks do this same kinda thing all the time; some jerk gets married, some pig is having puppies, blah blah. BFD, give me something useful or quit wasting bandwidth (I'm quite aware of the irony of decrying the waste of bandwidth by wasting some myself).
First let me say that MS products suck, I avoid using them if at all possible. What I have always said is that MS is shitty technology company but an outstanding marketing company.
Steve Jobs once said "The only problem with microsoft is they just have no taste... And so I guess I am saddened not by Microsoft's success, I have no problem with their success, they've earned their success... for the most part. I have a problem with the fact they just make really third rate products."
I think that says everything we need to know about MS. Now the issue is anti-trust and the fact that competitors that can't win in the market resort to running to the DOJ crying "FOUL!". The facts as I see them: McNealy was not tough or smart enough to stop NT. Andreesen was weak and subservient to the "adults" that built his company. Apple was run by idiots (Jobs is now going to do some damage to Bill).
Simply stated: The competition sucks!
And for those of you think that this "finding" from the judge says that MS is monopoly. Read it more carefully and you should see that it says MS has a monopoly on Windows, since it basically states all other OSes are irrelevant. It's like saying FORD is a monopoly because it's the only company that builds FORDs. (what is this.. Canada)
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The attorney, Steve Berman, is on retainer at Microsoft!
I'd suspect you need to RTFA and maybe go back to reexamine recent similar situations
specs link and image
No Mac support!
Keyence (Japan) has an heli and something called Gyrosaucer, which looks like it could be pretty cool. They also have a mini tractor tralier .
Pictures and Article link (print ver still up at timecanada)
according to this the xboxgw people are working on OS X and liniuxppc ports.
the fact that Prince Alwaleed (of Saudi royal family) has over $300m invested in apple.
If you read it again perhaps you'll see what I was describing was an internal struggle as honestly as I could and in context. I needed to write it and included it in the hope that others might benefit from reading it. Hate is a perfectly valid emotion, how we deal with it and the actions we take is what separates the humans from the filth.
Also, I certainly wasn't suggesting genocide or WWIII (full scale nuclear war) or any such thing. This will be a very different kind of war and we are in it for as long as it takes to root out all those who would do such a thing, those that provide aid and comfort (physical or rhetorical), or cheer. And we will find them wherever they are within our borders or abroad, there will be no rock under which to hide. Equivocators and vultures your on that list too.
First: I would urge everyone to be very aware that not everything we read, regardless of source or attribution, is as it seems. We MUST act with reason and common sense, checking to make sure misinformation isn't used to compound these heinous acts. These bastards want to destroy us, Americans and all of the civilized people of the World, we must not allow it. As we have seen the civilized leaders of the world, even those with whom we have serious political differences, pledge to join us in what must be a massive fight against all those who would seek to destroy civilization and we must hold them to it.
We have already seen extremist from the left and the right, within and without, attempt to advance their "cause" on the back of this tragedy. Surely just as horrendous a crime as the act itself. These extremists must also be dealt with.
I am certain good will prevail over evil.
Second: Tuesday we were all made combatants in this War, we must support our military response. And, perhaps more importantly, all of us must defend the world economy. Remember that it is completely in our hands and minds. Consider Monday the bottom of the economic downturn. Invest prudently, but invest. Buy wisely, but buy. And be vigilant of those who try to gouge or otherwise unfairly profit from this.
Third: I'm a first generation American. My parents were driven from Iran by this same Islamic filth (I'm sorry but I can't help but be prejudice, and feel hate for them all. All I can do is try not to act on it). Deep within me is a hatred of that religion, all religion. They killed more than half of all the people my family knew and loved, stole all they had worked for and filled their lives with pain and terror. Even before the "fundamentalists" took over, my family (Zoroastrian and Catholics) and many others were persecuted for their faith, the cloths they wore, the food they ate (they kill people for drinking wine or eating ham ). I say these things not to spread my hate, It's my burden to bear and I don't wish it on my worst enemy. I say it so I can point out that although I'm filled with hate for ALL muslims and all Gods, my parents are not and didn't teach it to me. They know and love a lot of muslims, muslims helped them flee certain death. But those muslims were secular, they acted in the name of humanity not in the name of Allah. Beware of ANYONE who presumes to act or speak in the name of any god. I understand that some people feel they need faith in gods to be good people , and I try to be respectful when I can but it has gone too far for too long.
Lastly: To all those like me who owe their very existence to this great nation, it's our turn. Half a century ago the descendants of european immigrants went by the tens thousands to the homeland of their ancestors to rid the earth of a great evil. We must do the same, the battles will be fought differently but in the end we too shall prevail. I have great faith in America and the civilized people of the world. This is not a time to wave the flag, it is a time to display it proudly and put all our efforts into the task at hand. Victory at any cost.
thanks for the lucid response. Given tuesdays events this whole discussion seems trivial (at least for the moment). But perhaps the best thing we can do is return to the "trivial".
MS owns about 5% of apple, and I think apple will be the company that brings MS down. And funny you mentioned Christ, Muhammed, and Buddha because IMO it comes down to a single individual, a LEADER to make any company successful. BG got his chance to make MS "great" when Jobs left apple in '85, now SJ has another shot, we'll see what happens.
What the linux movement is lacking is leadership, I know it is supposed to be leaderless, and that's the fatal flaw (IMO). I don't think it is naive to think someone can de-throne MS in the market regardless of the power or how they use it, and BG doesn't either he's paraniod that "he" is out there and will do a DOS-IBM. It may take years, but I don't think the antitrust route is the way to go.
anyhoo- thanks for the reply and the MOD request
We can not let this cripple the economy. Buy stock when the market reopens, even if it is just a few shares. Don't let these filthy cowards get what they want. We are not afraid, just enraged.
Build a company that will kick Microsoft's ass in the marketplace. If each of you were to throw in say $1k and perhaps build on some existing projects, I'm sure you could come up with products that would be superior to the stuff MS puts out (not much of a challenge). Then all you need to do is to be really good at selling it (if you don't want to make a profit that is up to you but you need to make the masses want and need it). I'm absolutely serious here and don't intend to sound sarcastic.
Now I know someone will say "M$ will destroy any company that tries to compete with them" but that doesn't fly, it's just an excuse, if your better at playing the game you win. Logic and history suggest that no entity, regardless of power or abuse there of, is unstoppable.
Any takers ?
For the record: I think that most MS products suck, bless there little hearts they just aren't very good at writing software, but they sure know how to sell the stuff. And I'm typing this from OS X.
come on, your too much of a pussy to even post your username. You have nothing to say, so just shut the fuck up.
your fucking brilliant
Clark is a lying sack of shit. He just wants to hold on to his cash since he has driven so many companies into the ground. I guess he wasn't able to steal enough VC money (read: the pensions of millions of blue collar workers) before those companies went under.
Stem cell research: If it was really so promising, if there was even the slightest chance to find a cure for anything, private funds would be flooding in.
Federal spending on research: There should be none, zero. Federal funds should only be spent on national defense and foreign affairs (and a few other little things) as set out in the Constitution.
As for the "moral" debate: Let me say upfront that Gods are for idiots. Abortion is murder (and I think there should be many more). ot: Fur is HUNTING or TRAPPING or SLAUGHTERING.
The notion that we spend any money (public or private) to cure or maintain genetically inferior people is OBSCENE. Evolution works best when left alone. The core of the current debate is: Should we use frozen embryos not used by infertile couples for research. First, this is genetic material from people (at least one of them) that can't even REPRODUCE without massive intervention. And the idea is that we MAY find treatments to keep more evolutionary dead ends alive. This nonsense MUST be stopped at any cost.
You said it all.
how shocking
ppl r idiots
take advantage of it
This is what an IPO can do to people. I've noticed that the News is slower and the Stuff matters not so much. I suppose it's fine if people want to celebrate the moments of thier lives with others especially when they have a platform to do it. TV networks do this same kinda thing all the time; some jerk gets married, some pig is having puppies, blah blah. BFD, give me something useful or quit wasting bandwidth (I'm quite aware of the irony of decrying the waste of bandwidth by wasting some myself).
First let me say that MS products suck, I avoid using them if at all possible. What I have always said is
that MS is shitty technology company but an outstanding marketing company.
Steve Jobs once said "The only problem with microsoft is they just have no taste... And so I guess I am
saddened not by Microsoft's success, I have no problem with their success, they've earned their success...
for the most part. I have a problem with the fact they just make really third rate products."
I think that says everything we need to know about MS. Now the issue is anti-trust and the fact that
competitors that can't win in the market resort to running to the DOJ crying "FOUL!".
The facts as I see them:
McNealy was not tough or smart enough to stop NT.
Andreesen was weak and subservient to the "adults" that built his company.
Apple was run by idiots (Jobs is now going to do some damage to Bill).
Simply stated: The competition sucks!
And for those of you think that this "finding" from the judge says that MS is monopoly. Read it more
carefully and you should see that it says MS has a monopoly on Windows, since it basically states all other
OSes are irrelevant. It's like saying FORD is a monopoly because it's the only company that builds
FORDs. (what is this.. Canada)
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People are idiots, take advantage of it.