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Smallest RC Cars?

fredhsu writes: "My brother-in-law bought two micro RC cars in Japan for me. They are both smaller than a matchbox. DigiQ from Takara is infrared-controlled, has two independent rear wheels powered by two tiny motors, and comes with a pistol-style analog controller. Bit Char-G from Tomy (Tomica) is radio-controlled, single-motor rear wheel drive, front wheel steering, and comes with an awkward controller with forward/backward + left/right switches. You really need to see the video clips to appreciate how small and maneuverable these cars are. I personally like DigiQ more, because of its powerful motors and analog controls. On the other hand, Bit Char-G has an extensive line of hop-ups and accessories. DigiQ sells for $50-$80 and Bit Char-G for $30-$50."

155 comments

  1. fp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

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    1. Re:fp by Fucky+the+troll · · Score: -1

      Yes.

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      Roadkill is yummy.
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    1. Re:Top Reasons to Upgrade to Windows 2000 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      I still prefer FreeBSD.

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      FreeBSD is so much better than windows. I don't understand why some people still use windows...

    2. Re:Top Reasons to Upgrade to Windows 2000 by Carp+Flounderson · · Score: -1

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  3. Stephen King. . . retired at 54 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

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    1. Re:Stephen King. . . retired at 54 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      Truly an American icon.

  4. Imagine ... by The_Fire_Horse · · Score: -1

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    to streaming pr0n, while simultaneously hitting refresh
    on the slashdot front page trying to get FIRST POST.



    1. Re:Imagine ... by Fucky+the+troll · · Score: -1

      What do you mean "imagine"?

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  5. Old Trick by RobertTaylor · · Score: 3, Interesting

    About five years ago I used to have a Tomy Char-G and played around with it in the office. In the UK there was a limited range, of around 4 colours, each with their own frequency (ie. red controller with red car etc).

    As a result syncronised char-g races occured, with several cars of the same colour being controlled by one handset! Quite fun ;)

  6. Bit Char-G is cool by jamesidm · · Score: 4, Informative

    I have a Bit Char-G, and it is pretty cool. It comes in kit form and you build it yourself. To drive it is ok, but better if you leave the chasis off (you can spin a lot better with less weight). You place the car on the side of the controller to charge it up before you use it, so no heavy batteries are on the car. The charged up car lasts about 2-3 mins before needing charging again but it is pretty cool.

    1. Re:Bit Char-G is cool by Don't+Exist · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yes, and you charge the thing for about 45 seconds to get about two minutes of racing. Just remember to pull out the antenna on the controller all the way and point it in the direction of the car to get the most range which is about 5 metres. 4 of these things make good racing on hard floors in the corridor! Just put a few cones or obstacles and race around them!

    2. Re:Bit Char-G is cool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Leave the CHASSIS off?

      You fucking idiot.

    3. Re:Bit Char-G is cool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      DigiQ is better, you can ctrl it with Palm.

  7. If I wasn't sitting here reading gaming forums by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    I could have gotten first post. As it is, I must settle for this top 10 post. Oh well, I should be in bed anyway.

  8. those are kind of cool... by Goofy+Gavin · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...but i'm holding out for nanocars. four rotating carbons for tires... a few silicons for the body... and you can drive them in your bloodstream! :D

  9. Too small. by Genghis+Troll · · Score: -1

    You could jam these things in your ass, but really, what's the point? They are just too small to be worthwhile. Maybe as training devices for the uninitiated... Personally, I will stick to my big, rusty, stinky, Tonka truck, and I suspect I am not alone in this.

  10. turrets by jazzman45 · · Score: 2, Funny

    bit char-g
    BITCH ARG!!!

    1. Re:turrets by llamalicious · · Score: 2

      did you mean tourettes?

    2. Re:turrets by Lord_Breetai · · Score: 1

      did you mean tourettes?

      When you think about it, they do go of like gun turrets: ra-ta-ta-ta-ta!!

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  11. Cooking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll



    I cannot make Pommes Noisettes.

    Hungry

    1. Re:Cooking by hungry · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      I am hungry

    2. Re:Cooking by Penrod+Pooch · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Put 4 medium-sized noisettes on a tray, pour a pint of pommes over them and cook in oven for 15 minutes at 350 degrees.

    3. Re:Cooking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
      Shit, I poured the noisettes over the pommes.

      It's the bloody frogs fault !

    4. Re:Cooking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      try pommes peepee.

      take a tray of pommes, and piss all over them. follow with a tray of hot grits poured into your lap and a drink of warm liquid shit.

    5. Re:Cooking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      15 minutes at 350 degrees.

      C, F or K ?

    6. Re:Cooking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      quite nice, but the WLS made me gag.

    7. Re:Cooking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      CK 350, the fragrance for hot people.

    8. Re:Cooking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      degrees can't be K. Only C and F are measured in degrees.

    9. Re:Cooking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Never heard of Lord Kelvin ?
      You must be from the USA.

    10. Re:Cooking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      I am still hungry !

    11. Re:Cooking by Genghis+Troll · · Score: -1

      You must be stupid enough to say "x degrees Kelvin". Pathetic little EuropeOn.

    12. Re:Cooking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Overrated my ass. There is no "x degrees Kelvin", just "x Kelvin".

    13. Re:Cooking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Offtopic is certainly preferable over overrated, but shouldn't you kill the rest of the thread before nuking the informative comments?

  12. Hmm... by Faile · · Score: 0, Troll

    Am I the only one who started wondering what they're not showing us?

    If they're selling things this small and relativly cheap under the name "toys" I wonder what the army and their "toys" are capable of...

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    1. Re:Hmm... by DrSkwid · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I wonder what the army and their "toys" are capable of...

      murdering people in unimaginably painful ways

      oh, and eating 4 year old macaroni cheese!

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    2. Re:Hmm... by jojor · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      dude, of course you are modded offtopic! read the friggin article: Keep away from pets & children! Imagine your cat's and dog's reaction to this cute little gadget and the consequences once it is being ingested. You wonder what an army of these could do? They could all be eaten by cats and then play with these furry balls in its stomach before they kill em! *d'oh*

    3. Re:Hmm... by DrSkwid · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      who cares?

      life at the karma kap is dull

      I've earned my right to be as offtopic, flamebaiting and trollish as I like!

      I'd prefer to be able to keep racking up the points but seeing a post scored 5 is disappointing when you were at 50 when you posted it.

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    4. Re:Hmm... by MjDascombe · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Why the fsck was this modded down? It's a ligitimate question, and the most sensible/useful I've read on this thread so far? Do the modders even read posts any more, or are they too far up their own arses?

  13. thinkgeek! by \\ · · Score: 3, Informative

    thinkgeek sells little mini "desk rovers" like these, which look too damn cool.

    1. Re:thinkgeek! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative
      They are not all they are cracked up to be. It's neat to have a tank-like car with treads, but it's extremely slow.

      Also, if I were ever to bring it into the office, I'd be lynched for the amount of noise it generates.
      The USB/Serial interface you can get for it (hooked up via the controller) allows for control from your Mac (OS X only) or PC, but it's not precise. Any macro you try to set for it would fail after a few runs.

      Add to all that, the fact that it uses those mojo-expensive Lithium CR123 batteries (2 of them) and you have a rather unappealing gizmo. I bought two, so I could give one as a Christmas present to my friend, but it's still sitting in a cupboard. I got him a phone, instead.

    2. Re:thinkgeek! by IIOIOOIOO · · Score: 2, Informative

      I own three of those tanks, and they're pretty lame. The ir guns don't sense properly, the treads constantly come off, they're slow on any surface, and won't go at all on carpet.

    3. Re:thinkgeek! by GTRacer · · Score: 2
      ...it's still sitting in a cupboard.

      Can I have it then? ;-)

      GTRacer
      - Worth a shot!

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    4. Re:thinkgeek! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the desktop rover vehicle can be controlled from a PC with Java software!

  14. Uses! by FarHat · · Score: 4, Funny

    Now attach an X10 cam to this and have all those upskirt views you've always craved :)

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    1. Re:Uses! by KillerShrew · · Score: 1
      It's been done with a mini-z, no mention of upskirts. Technology is just downright scary sometimes...

      http://mini-zracer.com/parts/

    2. Re:Uses! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      x-10? uh huh.

      http://racenut.com/barrc/carcam.html

      taken from a HPI Nitro car, little larger, little faster, lot more expensive;)

    3. Re:Uses! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      The camera we used for the Mini-Z Cam project can be found here.; it can fit in pretty much any space and is even light enough to be used w/ RC blimps.

      The Mini-Z Cam pictured is actually v1.0, v2.0 has all of the batteries etc. mounted internally. When we race we park the Cam car on the corner and watch live footage on channel 16, or even have the Cam car run as a chase car. We also have a pocket TV which lets us run the Cam car without needing line of sight to the vehicle - very cool for office use. For more info on Mini-Zs, check out http://mini-zracer.com - also take a look at YourMicro.com for a slightly bigger 4WD RC.

  15. Rock Bottom by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    OK, that's it. I've been trying to quit /. for some time now... but being bored at work was too much, and I kept coming back.

    This story, however, has done it for me. Posting this was the proverbial straw for me.

    So, I'm out. See ya'll later.

    1. Re:Rock Bottom by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

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      worked for me... cough.

    2. Re:Rock Bottom by chrysrobyn · · Score: 3, Funny

      by Anonymous Coward

      OK, that's it. I've been trying to quit /. for some time now... but being bored at work was too much, and I kept coming back.

      This story, however, has done it for me. Posting this was the proverbial straw for me.

      So, I'm out. See ya'll later.

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  16. High price-to-size ratio by Monte · · Score: 2, Funny

    I can just imagine making my way to the euphamism on a dark night and CRUNCH - there's eighty bucks down the drain.

  17. RC cars? by cperciva · · Score: 5, Funny

    Personally, I'd rather have RC helicopters. Yes, I know their batteries wouldn't last long... but in an office environment, tiny cars aren't going to get very far, given the amount of clutter which would obstruct them. Helicopters, on the other hand, could fly over cubicle walls to attack people...

    1. Re:RC cars? by Chelloveck · · Score: 3, Funny

      Now there's a way to make your first million. Market a line of affordable RC Nerf Attack Helicopters.

      Even better if they were programmable and could be used autonomously. "Nerf Mindstorms". Oooh, I could rule this office!

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    2. Re:RC cars? by don_carnage · · Score: 3, Interesting

      This is probably bigger than you're thinking, but cool none-the-less: Draganflyer.

    3. Re:RC cars? by tramm · · Score: 3, Informative
      You can help develop a Free Software autonomous helicopter. The current hardware is a bit too large to fit on the smaller electric helicopters, but most glow or gas engine rotorcraft will work.

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    4. Re:RC cars? by javatips · · Score: 2

      A small RC blimp would be far more appropriate. No need to spend energy just to stay up. Also when it's not moving, it can go to standby mode.

      The only problem I see is air conditioning vent. This could make it's live a little bit harder in some part of the office.

    5. Re:RC cars? by CaseyB · · Score: 2

      The trouble is that RC blimps don't scale down (below the 10 foot range) very well. They tend to be very delicate, spidery contraptions.

    6. Re:RC cars? by bhsx · · Score: 1

      That's a good idea, but I was just thinking one of these little cars with an X10 spycam on the hood... I guess a mini-chopper would be better at that too!

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    7. Re:RC cars? by Eccles · · Score: 1

      There are remote control blimps, which might be rather safer (assuming you like at least some of your co-workers...)

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    8. Re:RC cars? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      They DO have indoor RC helicopters.

      > Now attach an X10 cam to this and have all
      > those upskirt views you've always craved :)

      They even have attachable microcameras.

      Both here

      AGS.

    9. Re:RC cars? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Oh no! The marketers have entered our domain! Begin the attack!"

    10. Re:RC cars? by ByteHog · · Score: 1

      I've got one of those.. they're pretty cool, although the model that I had gotten for christmas only has 2 motors: forward and back. No up or down, so I have to control that with counterweights n' stuff. it only takes a little bit of weight to change what height it idles at.

      My cat just about ripped the thing to shreads when she saw it come at her for the first time though.. was kinda funny. :)

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  18. But...... How Fast... by phunhippy · · Score: 2

    they say: World's fastest - up to 4 times faster than other micro R/C cars

    So how fast do the others go?

    Inquring minds want to know....

    1. Re:But...... How Fast... by fredhsu · · Score: 1

      DigiQ is much faster than a walking adult. Given its size (and the size its tiny wheels), that is quite some speed. On the other hand, turning at such speed is almost impossible. Cornering is an art, even in the easy mode.

  19. Not as small, but much more capable... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Is the HPI Micro RS4. They are 1/18th scale, I think that makes them around 7-8 inches long. These use standard radios & servos, and are all wheel drive, while still being small enough to rip through the office. They can even be run off standard alkaline batteries, or the standard R/C rechargable packs. (And can drive for up to 40 minutes on 4 AA's)

    1. Re:Not as small, but much more capable... by Boone^ · · Score: 2

      they've got a little too much acceleration to be used in the office. We've raced them on outside basketball courts, with custom 6 cell AA NiMH 1600 MAh packs for them, and the standard motor is just burning when the pack starts dumping. :) We use Hitec HS-81MG servos, the metal gears are almost a requirement.

      If you want an office racer, go with the 2 wheel drive Kyosho Mini-Z

    2. Re:Not as small, but much more capable... by SoupIsGoodFood_42 · · Score: 1
      they've got a little too much acceleration to be used in the office. We've raced them on outside basketball courts...

      Hehehe...

      My 2cs worth of useless, OT info:
      Most people who have never seen a real RC car can't understand why you can't or don't want to race your 1:10th scale 4WD modified touring car around inside.
      But anyone who has driven one, knows it's like trying to race a top-fuel dragster inside car parking building. ;)

    3. Re:Not as small, but much more capable... by Boone^ · · Score: 2

      Indeed. We race 1:10 scale AWD touring cars up in Brooklyn Park, MN, and thought that getting Micro RS4's would be sweet for some basement and driveway racing. They're very solid cars on lots of surfaces, but with their acceleration and distinct lack of weight it's like you're trying to turn a buggy on clay... there's some power sliding going on. ;)

  20. Mini-z anyone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    I've had my Mini-z for more than a year now, they are really neat. But quite expensive here in sweden, around 150 USD.
    And you can spend a fortune on extra parts...
    http://www.kyosho.com/cars/kyod01x1.html

    1. Re:Mini-z anyone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But the parking's cheap...

    2. Re:Mini-z anyone? by Daniel+Rutter · · Score: 2

      I review the Mini-Z here, by the way. Lots of pretty pictures of stock and hopped-up cars.

  21. Such fun by kerincosford · · Score: 4, Informative

    We've got a couple of these in our office, that someone brough back from Tokyo.

    They're so much fun its just silly. Incredibly detailed too - we've got different suspension kits, bodytypes and drift tyres, so we can do powerslides around the desks. Amazing little things. Fast as hell too.

    Why are they so hard to get hold of in the UK? I'd gladly buy a raft of these.

    1. Re:Such fun by g_attrill · · Score: 1

      Have a look on ebay - there are traders selling them for $36 and the shipping is only $8 to the UK. Most have stacks of feedback so you aren't going to get ripped off.

      Gareth

  22. robot wars/battlebots by Bazman · · Score: 2

    In the UK, Robot Wars had a 'flyweight' category, which they played in a miniature version of the main arena, about a metre square. The robots were a bit bigger than matchboxes, but some had flippers and spikes. Great to watch the little things whizzing about, and it wasn't long before half of them were just running round in circles.

    I think one even got flipped right out of the arena.

    1. Re:robot wars/battlebots by Hektor_Troy · · Score: 2

      "I think one even got flipped right out of the arena."

      That happened to one of the full-grown robots as well. Can't remember the name of the winning bot, but they got a bit cocky and charged the house robots. I think they even managed to flip Matilda ...

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    2. Re:robot wars/battlebots by Tha_Zanthrax · · Score: 1

      That probably was Chaos2

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  24. Spytech by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is the commercial version, but spies are known to use rc cars half this size, with tiny cameras and ranges of up to a mile. Saw it in a movie. They really do.

  25. Europe? Cheap? by CAB · · Score: 1

    Where do one buy these nifty things in Europe?

    It seems its all US and Japan.

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    1. Re:Europe? Cheap? by mjfgates · · Score: 1

      Mail order! HobbyLink Japan has the Char-G, I know. Shipping charges are high, but the prices are low, and if you get a couple of friends together you can all go in on a single big order.

  26. You must be kidding? by ErikZ · · Score: 2, Interesting


    45 seconds of battery charge? I guess they designed it so it wouldn't run out of power during the commericals to sell the thing.

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    1. Re:You must be kidding? by JPriest · · Score: 2, Informative

      from the DigiQ site:
      "Dual Ni-MH batteries allows a 15-min run time w/ a 10-min charge"

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    2. Re:You must be kidding? by Don't+Exist · · Score: 1

      The Bit Char-G does charge up in 45 seconds and run for about two minutes on that charge. It's the special and tiny motor that they've got on the rear wheels that does the trick. Amazing.

    3. Re:You must be kidding? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      You charge it for 45 seconds, and you get 2 minutes of run time. Plenty of time for a bunch of laps. At full charge the Bit is a tad uncontrolable. These things are great table top racers.

    4. Re:You must be kidding? by fredhsu · · Score: 1

      With 1.0 motor, it actually runs for about 5-7 minutes. I am sure 2.0 and 2.6 motors will discharge the battery much faster.

  27. Hoverfly miniature helicopter by cybergibbons · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If you want a really cool toy - get one of these.

    Snelflight hoverfly helicopter

    It's a tiny little tethered helicopter which uses a motor and propellor at the end of each blade, so it doesn't work quite the same as a normal rc helicopter, but the control box means that the controls are the same.

    Quite expensive, but very cool

    1. Re:Hoverfly miniature helicopter by NetNinja · · Score: 0

      I remeber something like this when I was yonger. I think they came in a kit, an Airplane and a Helicopter. They were made out of thin blue and red plastic.They were tethered to a cylindrical battery control and each powered by two D battery's.

  28. Seiko Epson EMRoS by SubtleNuance · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Not totally unrelated but i always found this interesting: Have a look at Seiko/Epson's EMRoS or "Epson Micro Robot System" here and here

    Neat little buggers, not made with pager parts as these Radio/IR Cars are, instead made with watch parts.

  29. Driving Skills... by DavesError · · Score: 1

    Isn't running into a salt shaker an automatic failure on most driving tests???
    I think someone needs a refresher course on the proper driving skills.
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  30. Bit Char-G Review by The+Whinger · · Score: 5, Informative

    There is a review of the Bit Char-G here.

    It includes some better images.

    1. Re:Bit Char-G Review by The+Whinger · · Score: 3, Informative

      ... and more information on the Digi-Q here.

    2. Re:Bit Char-G Review by keep_it_simple_stupi · · Score: 1

      And yet another...

      There is one more review here.

  31. Bit Char-G by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I made a site for them with some good info!

    http://www.intercityinc.com/bit

  32. more proof by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Cool Shaites:
    CrackFu (Addicted to crack?)
    Penny Joint (The First one is always Free)
    The Filthy Dealer (He Is Always Late)
    Smoke Everything (Blow your Mind)
    "Old Man Murray" (Games... Sorta)
    Themes (Make X Perty)

  33. $30-$50 dollars for the bit racers? by Don't+Exist · · Score: 1

    Man, that is expensive. I can get them for less than $22.5US. Then again I live in Hong Kong so maybe I don't have to pay VAT or something.

    1. Re:$30-$50 dollars for the bit racers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bit racer smuggling ring! I'm there!

      -- Mylo

    2. Re:$30-$50 dollars for the bit racers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      You'll have to transport them rectally, you know.


      And with such low margins, you'll have to make your money on volume.

  34. stolen from an AC by SubtleNuance · · Score: 3, Interesting
    1. Re:stolen from an AC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://www.intercityinc.com/bit

  35. SERIOUS LINUX SECURITY HOLE FOUND by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    Flaw weakens Linux security

    Programmers have found a vulnerability in Linux (news - web sites) that could allow protective firewall software to grant malicious computer users access to protected networks.

    The flaw, which affects versions 2.4.14 through 2.4.18-pre9 of the Linux kernel, is in a component of the Netfilter firewall software. The component is involved when two computer users chat directly with each other using the Internet Relay Chat (IRC) system.

    Information sent across the Internet is broken up into tiny "packets," each with "from" and "to" addresses, indicating who's sent the information and where it's intended to go. So-called firewall software transmits or screens out these packets based on the address of the sender.

    Netfilter, among the new aspects of the 2.4 version of the Linux kernel, is software that runs within the kernel to filter out unwanted packets. But its IRC helper component configures firewall settings too broadly, potentially allowing communication from IP (Internet Protocol) addresses that should be blocked.

    Programmers working on the Netfilter firewall software project reported the problem Monday.

    Versions 7.1 and 7.2 of leading Linux seller Red Hat's product are vulnerable. The Durham, N.C.-based company issued a patch Thursday that corrects the problem. The flawed software isn't installed by default on the Red Hat versions, the company said, but some users may have added it.

    Security is a nagging concern for the computer industry, which must juggle new features with the risk that they open up new problems. While the firewall problem the Netfilter programmers discovered is limited to a few versions of Linux, a more serious problem emerged earlier this month affecting numerous operating systems using standard network management software.

  36. in related news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Cmdrtaco was found dead this morning with a DigiQ jammed up his has. Apparently he had been masterbating while driving the minature car around his rectum. At this time it is unclear how he perished but authorities are speculating auto-erotic asphyxiation.

  37. Linking to video. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Uhm linking directly to videoclip is that clever? I'll bet that the sever is already busy sending spam or "exchanging business cards" as they say over there.

  38. heli and saucer by profeti · · Score: 3, Informative

    Keyence (Japan) has an heli and something called Gyrosaucer, which looks like it could be pretty cool. They also have a mini tractor tralier .

  39. digiq link crashes mozilla (on win2k) by johnfoobar · · Score: 1
  40. electric R/C Helicopter for indoor flight by mks113 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Take a look at the Piccolo helicopter. A definite flyweight, but bigger than the cars! It is meant for indoor flight.

    1. Re:electric R/C Helicopter for indoor flight by psych031337 · · Score: 2

      ...and then there is also this baby...

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  41. Tiny H-Bridge by snatchitup · · Score: 1

    It looks as if these cars use may a
    Microcontroller, perhaps not, but definitely an H-Bridge. And H-Bridge is a specialized push pull amplifier that can be used as a Motor controller. You can order this as Quad 2 Channel Drivers,
    In a DIP Package.
    Gee I'd love to
    Hack one of these babies like
    this fella
    did.

    But, it's really tough to find chips at those sizes.

    On, the short battery life. I'm reminded of BEAM Devices which charge up a capacitor from a solar cell, then release the energy in a spurt, then go back to charging the capacitor. Here's a cool one

    1. Re:Tiny H-Bridge by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      bah, setting it up to follow lines is fun for about 15 minutes. You have the joy of getting it to actually work and then you just go.. "gee, this is worthless"

      races w/ them can be fun though... one of my embedded systems classes at michigan held races between the students who decided to do that as a term project. (maybe 10 cars, everyone else did something else)

    2. Re:Tiny H-Bridge by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      dude, you talking about 373?

      pmpdaddy D

  42. Kids today... by KnowledgeFreak · · Score: 1, Interesting

    are so damn spoiled by technology. What i wouldn't give to have something like this when i was 7 years old. i guess i shouldn't complain since i did have a nintendo, but it does makes ya wonder what the toys will be like in another century and so forth. how will your great grand children spend their afternoons?

    1. Re:Kids today... by maddugan · · Score: 1

      The movie A.I. comes to mind.

    2. Re:Kids today... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sure, most kids will just passively play around with these neat little cars until they become bored and move on to the next craze. But a bright, perceptive kid could possibly learn quite a deal about intuitive physics (acceleration, centripital force, friction) through deliberate experimenting with the cars and the environments they drive them around. Technology doesn't not spoil children these days. It's really the other way around.

  43. Hmmm, gives me an idea.... by imac.usr · · Score: 2
    Mix:
    2-4 of these cars
    some Lego figures
    iMovie + digital camcorder


    Why wait two years for the sequel to "The Fast And The Furious" when you can make your own?

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    1. Re:Hmmm, gives me an idea.... by No+Such+Agency · · Score: 2

      It'd have better acting than the original too!

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  44. Perfect cat toy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    This could top even the classic laser pointer
    cat toy.

    Hm... image processing for feline paw
    auto-evade seriously needed.

  45. The consequences once it is being ingested by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I liked this quote from the DigiQ page:

    "Keep away from pets & children! Imagine your cat's and dog's reaction to this cute little gadget and the consequences once it is being ingested."

    Must be translated by the same guy that did "All your base are belong to us". Ha ha ha!

  46. Epoch by GizmoToy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Not so long ago my girlfriend imported an Epoch Indoor Racer from Japan. While a little bigger than the cars talked about here, they're a whole lot neater. Real suspension, proportional steering, limited slip differential, and charge up in about 20 seconds. Extremely cool. It's built on a 1/42 scale, making them slightly larger than matchbox cars, but smaller than a CD.

    Also, if you're more the tinkering type, check out Tyco's Canned Heats. I have four of those things lying around in varying states of completeness. They're really easy to modify, so you can make then go faster and whatnot. Pretty fun.

  47. Fully digitally-proportional cars available too by rwa2 · · Score: 1

    I just bought a different brand from a duty-free shop at Tokyo/Narita airport a few months ago. It was a bit larger (about 10cm long) but it had fully digitally proportional steering and throttle with a pistol-style controller, which really comes in handy when you're trying to do tricky maneuvers. It was $45 US and came with 4 spare tires (?!). The transmitter took a 9V battery, and the charging station took 6AA's, so you wouldn't have to get an extra 120V A/C adapter. It's pretty fast, can probably keep up with a jogger. The car's battery lasts about 5 minutes, depending on your lead foot (or finger). My only complaint is that the radio range is only about 10-15 meters :( . But they have at least 4 cars that supposedly run on different frequencies so you can play with friends. I'll try to post a link when I get home tonight.

    I remember reading about R/C cars this size in magazines about 8 years ago, they were $100 - $200 then, and I'd always wanted one. I'm glad the price came down enough for me to convince my wife to spend money on a toy :) . At least my in-laws seemed to enjoy it a lot, trying to parallel-park between two saltshakers...

    1. Re:Fully digitally-proportional cars available too by ngreenfeld · · Score: 1

      "I just bought a different brand..."

      Could you tell us the brand?

  48. You can get them cheaper... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  49. Fucking Pacifist Trash Liberal Hack by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    The military serves a political end friend, and as we can see, the most liberal tash (like you) has sent the military off to fight the dirtiest of wars in our brief history in the US.

    Die fucker...

    1. Re:Fucking Pacifist Trash Liberal Hack by DrSkwid · · Score: 1

      1. I don't have a moustache
      2. I'm not a liberal
      3. I will die, but not for you.
      4. No one has faught a war on my behalf, ever!
      5. Come and have a go if you think you're hard enough.

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  50. I've used the DigiQ... not impressed by usa35.com · · Score: 2

    It was fun for about 5 minutes, but the little bugger never wanted to go straight and the IR didn't always seem to connect solidly. Plus, the flooring you use it on has to be perfectly smooth. The kitchen tile we tried it on made the thing hop around and change direction.

    My wife is Japanese, so when we were seeing some Japanese friends in Amsterdam they had all the cool Japanese toys for their kid. Lots of fun!

    Someone mentioned RC helicopters. If you want to have a good indoor one, I've got an Eco Piccolo that works great indoors.

    Here's some random guy's site with good Piccolo pics:
    http://www.modelaviation.co.uk/heli/models/ piccolo /piccolo.htm

  51. Re:RC Nerf Attack Helicopters! by teamhasnoi · · Score: 1
    Defend me, my Legions!

    My first RC car was a brown Bronco from the Sears Wish Book. It was $40+ bucks and ran for about 10-15 min on 5 C Nicads. It had two gears, switchable on the car, high speed and a torque setting (low). I took it apart to put a Lego body on it, and don't remember what happened to it. (It rocked.) When I grew up (ha), I bought an RC 10 (far too expensive - $250+ ow.) and that was fun! Got rid of it later, though - you run into a tree at 35 mph, and something's got to give (not the tree ;) Parts for the thing were crazy $$$, but at least you could fix anything that went wrong.

    Toys that actually defended themselves would be altogether too damn cool! Now if I could only rig something to attack the cats on the kitchen counter...

  52. Uses: Cat toy! by BlueStreak · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Hmmm... if I were to attach a small piece of string or cover the car in the fake fur (found on cheap toy mice) I'd have a very easy way to keep my cats entertained and in shape!

  53. Re:RC helicopters... by No+Such+Agency · · Score: 2

    I can only imagine these things, lots of fun, until somebody loses an eye. At least when Mabel from HR walks into one of these things and needs facial surgery, she'll sue your employer and not you.

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  54. Re:RC helicopters... by sharkey · · Score: 2

    I can only imagine these things, lots of fun, until somebody loses an eye.

    Remember, it's all fun and games until somebody loses an eye. Then, it's just fun.

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    "Outlook not so good." That magic 8-ball knows everything! I'll ask about Exchange Server next.
  55. small and maneuverable, eh by Atilla · · Score: 1

    small, maybe...
    but if my real car was that "maneuverable", every light pole in town would have my name on it!

    :-)

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  56. Forget the Car's check out the fighting Robot's!!! by nexusone · · Score: 1

    The car's are neat, but those fighting Dream Force robots look cool....
    What is it the Japanes people get all the cool Robot stuff?

    link:
    Dream Force 01

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    Wise men speak because they have something to say, Fools because they have to say something!!!!
  57. rc car w/ wireless camera by austad · · Score: 2

    A few months back, there was a link to a tiny remote control car/rover thing with a wireless camera so you could beam images back to your computer monitor. Does anyone have a link to this? I can't find it anymore.

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    1. Re:rc car w/ wireless camera by tb3 · · Score: 2

      That's the Desk Rover. There's a link above to ThinkGeek, but they don't have the camera. Here's the link to the manufacturer and you might want to try a Google search.

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    2. Re:rc car w/ wireless camera by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Plantraco makes a camera and the Desktop Rover.

      Here is a link to the manufacturer - Plantraco

      http://www.plantraco.com/product_dtr.html

  58. Re:Uses: RC Skunk... by plsander · · Score: 1

    There was a guy at the MN State Fair two years ago with a RC car that had a fake (I hope!) skunk fur attached. He would quietly run it up to people walking around. Pretty amusing to see some of the reactions. No one quite climbed up on top of a table, but they came close.

  59. Re:Subject to make you want to read the message go by posmon · · Score: 1

    +5 informative, if you can lay off the crack for 5 minutes

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  60. Japanese electronic toy cars in Canada by Jucius+Maximus · · Score: 1
    I am part of a Mattel sponsored group that will be working with some similar cars that are only available now in Japan at the Molson indy in Toronto, Canada this summer. See last year's track if you want. Basically people pay to race cars down it and the proceeds go to charity.

    The cars are not RC but do include capacitors in them so they can run for 3 or so minutes to so on a 30 second charge. Lots of fun. Come to the Molson indy to see this year's track.

    Note: I am a volunteer on this group. I am only paid in the priviledge of playing with toy cars normally available only in Japan. This was not an advertisement ;-)

  61. R/C should be getting *bigger*, not smaller by derinax · · Score: 1

    Just how do these little things run on shag? I thought so.

    You can pry my Tyco Super Rebound out of my cold, dead hands.

    The dogs hate it, but it's too big to eat.

  62. Now THAT... by Basilius · · Score: 1

    ...is one cool cat toy :) Probably even better than a laser pointer.

  63. Re:Forget the Car's check out the fighting Robot's by jsarek · · Score: 1

    Look, it balances out the Japanese tendency to get attacked by Godzilla. It's all fair in the end.

  64. this is old news by Tompie · · Score: 1

    Why is slashdot posting this news?

    Pixel
    (a micro helicopter)
    is waaaaaaay cooler and a already few years old

  65. Micro-R/C gonna be big next Xmas... by hockeyrink · · Score: 2, Informative

    I just came back from the New York Toy Fair in February, where I made note of 4 different distributors of these devices.

    The original was by Tomy, being imported as "R/C MicroSizers". The others were Chinese knock-offs (very common in the toy industry...) called "Z-Cars R/C". I think the other was called "Canned Heat, where the cars were packaged in transparent cans. Can't recall the name of the last one.

    All the cars at the toy show only had the FCC clearance for the 45 and 27Mhz frequencies, unlike the Tokyo/Tomy, which offered those plus the 57 and 35MHz. Hard to play 4-man R/C car soccer on only 2 frequencies...

    The price will come down when they hit North American shores in volume, especially with the Chinese knock-offs costing almost 1/2 as much as the Tomy models, although the $40USD/ea I paid for my originals from Hong Kong were well worth it!

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  66. REALLY small RC cars by John+Harrison · · Score: 2

    In one of my CS classes (I think it was AI but memory is such a flimsy thing) we watched a video on some crazy Japanese micro cars. These things were less than 1 centimeter in length. The wheels were so small that if you lubricated the axels it would cause them to bind. They looked pretty cool darting around on a table. You could really bother your cats with one. Didn't work too well on carpet though....

  67. Interesting Tomy Fact... by cr0sh · · Score: 2

    Tomy is a strange company - they used to sell quite a few "neat" products here in the States back in the 80's (Omnibot robot line, Air Jammer vehicles) - but lately all you can find are "toddler" toys. It is interesting that they (if it is the same company - Tomica=Tomy?) are selling these small racers now.

    What is more interesting is the fact that Tomy made, in a limited silver-plated edition, given only to top executives (or some other such), an "ultra-tiny" (like, about the diameter of a quarter and a couple of inches tall) programmable "omnibot" (it was of the Omnibot line - just not available to general public). Very, very few of these robots were made. I have only seen one come up for auction on Ebay - it went for several thousand dollars, IIRC. These robots were made and given out in the early-to-mid 1980's.

    The tech behind all of this has a long history - it is by no means "new"...

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    1. Re:Interesting Tomy Fact... by Denial+of+Cervix · · Score: 1
      Tomy is a strange company - they used to sell quite a few "neat" products here in the States back in the 80's


      Yeah, no kidding. I have in my possession a Tomy "Tinkle Tot", which is a naked little plastic squeeze doll about the size of a hackeysack with an anatomically incorrect "hole" right where you're thinking. From the package:

      "From a fun-filled island come the Tinkle Tots. They swim in the sea, hide in the jungle and when you fill them with water and squeze them, watch what they do!"

      I saw it in the dollar store and had to buy it otherwise nobody would believe me. Truly the strangest toy I've ever seen.

      DoC
      "Pee is not a toy"!

  68. My Idea: Privatize the war on terrorism by t0qer · · Score: 4, Funny
    Humor, not to be taken seriously

    Imagine this: The Pentagon offers to transport, arm, and fuel home-built drone aircraft to fly against Al Qaeda. Your aircraft must meet the following requirements:
    • On-board GPS
    • On-board video capability
    • Must be controlled via a soon-to-be-built wireless IP network in (let's say Somalia)
    • 500-pound payload
    From the comfort of your home, you can patrol your Pentagon-assigned territory, and engage targets as designated by the JSTARS targeting system.

    I figure the Pentagon can probably turn a profit by charging fees as they provide what is essentially the world's most realistic flight simulator. As an added bonus, they could sell the TV rights to the on-board video. Wouldn't it be fun to watch "The World's Most Terrified Terrorists"? Imagine what the MIT folks could build for this mission!

    I think the most ironic part of the whole idea is that it turns the tables on the bad guys. Under this scenario, their most terrfying time of day would be when school gets out in the US. "Oh no! Schools out! Everyone head for the caves!"

    What a neat application for embedded Linux.
  69. This is MEAN! by Zelet · · Score: 1

    I can't believe they would steal cars from Smurfs then sell them to people. They can't get away with this!

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  70. You forgot some things by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    3D Studio Max
    Adobe Photoshop
    Soundforge

    And a damn good lawyer

  71. More on the Bit Char-G (motors, trim lever) by DoctorYoshi · · Score: 1

    One of the most thoughtful features (IMHO) in the Bit Char-G is that there is a lever under the car that you can use to "trim" the front wheel alignment. This really helps the car go straight. Also some word of advice on motors. There are four motors for the Bit Char-G. The MicroBee 1.0, 2.2 and 2.6. (I say 4 motors because the 2.2 is available in two part numbers. GS-01 as the stock motor in a kit and S-04 as an addon) The Japanese packaging was somewhat ambiguous as to what the numbers meant. When my friend and I bought one each, we soon learned that it correlates to speed, with 2.6 being the fastest. If you want to race, I obviously recommend the 2.6. I personally have a 2.2, and I frequently find myself spinning out the car. On the other hand, my friend's 1.0 is just the right speed to navigate on smaller desks and ad-hoc obstacle courses. BTW, I landed mine for US$15 whle I was in Japan. ;) Yoshi

  72. Highy suggest the Mini-Z by Limestarch · · Score: 1

    I also have a Mini-Z (honda S2000) and highly suggest everyone buy one since they're built to scale, have their own mini servo, nice accessories, fully adjustable for steering and speed. they're also pretty fast.

  73. Infrared possibilities by Spaco · · Score: 1

    Think a program could be hacked out so that the DigiQ can be controlled by a Visor or other infrared device? Are there any really small, good quality infrared controllers?

    Thanks,

    Spaco

  74. best idea i've heard all day. by Ironfist_ironmined · · Score: 1

    no shit!

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  75. They also do planes! by Ironfist_ironmined · · Score: 1

    check the main planes page here and just to pre-emt they do have a spitfire

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  76. URL (or lack thereof) by rwa2 · · Score: 1
    Well, as promised here's some more info, now that I'm home from work.

    It's made by Epoch and officially called the "Indoor Racer RC 1/43 SPEC-1. The car has a URL on the rear spoiler that points to e-kuruma.com , but that seems to be a car auction site.

    Unfortunately, I couldn't find a web page on it, so I guess I'll have to make my own... I threw a bunch of pictures and movies up at my webserver

    Sorry for the shoddy Quicktime anims, it's kinda hard to drive while holding a camera :P

    Post if you can find any info on it!

  77. Cool but... by Kalewa · · Score: 1
    Smaller, faster, cooler. It's all great, but the kind of innovation I'd have to see for it to get out of the prototype stage is either better batteries, or more efficient devices that will run for more than 5 minutes.

    Not so much a problem with cars, but with RC helicopters and such, it's not so good when the batteries just die.

    And what about practical applications? RCToys.com sells at least one of their products as something that can actually have industrial applications. But with just 5-6 minutes of uptime, I can't see many practical uses. I'll be impressed if they come up with something that can go for 20-40 minutes without recharging. Maybe fuel cells will solve this.