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Mandrake, SuSE Ready New Releases
Anthony Boyd writes: "At pclinuxonline.com, they are running an uncomfirmed story that Mandrake 8.2 will be released on March 18th. And of course, SuSE Linux 8.0 is going to be released in mid-April. Features for SuSE appear to include KDE 3.0 and a whole lot of games. Features for Mandrake appear to be a super small install and, well, stability. Sounds great to me."
At pclinuxonline.com, they are running an uncomfirmed story that Mandrake 8.2 will be released on March 18th.
Glad slashdot got the scoop before the Washington Post or the New York Times.
I'm trying to be funny sarcastic, not mean sarcastic, so nobody get too upset.
I can see announcing new releases, though I think slashdot goes overboard on that, but announcing RUMORS of a possible release? I mean, you'd think people were waiting for the new mandrake like it was a necessary transplant organ...
The best feature about Mandrake 8.1 is that it took about half the time to install as Windows 2000 and was probably the easiest install for linux. This may not seem like much for computer geeks (the slashdot crowd), but it is vital for getting linux on more personal desktops. If linux is ever going to survive in its current form, it needs to be a viable competitor with Microsoft. I can only hope that Mandrake 8.2 continues the trend of the other Mandrakes before it.
Mandrake has a Gaming Edition for about 70$ + S&H that comes with the sims and a 90 day subscribtion to Transgaming I'd buy it but I'm waiting on 8.2. There is also a version of Counter Strike ported to linux.
Saying Java is nice because it works on all OS's is like saying that anal sex is nice because it works on all genders.
There is a reason why MandrakeSoft chose not to wait for KDE 3 and GNOME 2: stability. One of the primary reasons why Mandrake 8.2 is being released is to provide a more mature, refined and stable distribution than its immediate predecessors. And I'll say it does pretty well at that. Bleeding edge software like KDE 3 and GNOME 2 that will most certainly have a couple of significant bugs at their initial release will wait until the next major version number change, most likely (perhaps you want to wait for Mandrake 9.0 instead).
Am I a hipster-doofus?
In the near-term, yes. But if the distributors
don't see demand for the boxes, they won't put
them on the shelves. If they aren't on the shelves,
Mandrake loses potential new customers.
On the other hand, if retail sales aren't doing the
trick now, why should they ever? If they can't
we're all better off with a pledge-drive model just
like PBS.
-I like my women like I like my tea: green-
A lot of applications that run on kde2 are not yet ported to kde3. It is nice to have a newer release of kde, but the major improvements are maybe just a better khtml and kjs, and maybe it is a bit faster.
But you want to run your applications too.
I believe you cannot run kde2 and kde3 apps at the same time. Here it complained that dcopserver was already running, and after killing kde2 processes kde3 apps woud start.
But if you want kde3, you have to wait for the final release of kde3. It will then be packaged for Mandrake 8.2 and I believe also for 8.0 and 8.1, and it will be available as a download.
For Gnome2; I do not know much about it, but it might still be a release for developers. And most gnome developers will run gnome from cvs I assume. Most gnome apps run fine on Gnome 1.4
Well, don't worry about that. We can get you back before you leave. (Dr. Who)
List: mandrake-cooker
Subject: [Cooker] 8.2
From: Warly <warly@mandrakesoft.com>
Date: 2002-03-15 18:07:56
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I am in the process of building the final 8.2 isos.
These isos will be tested this week-end, and released on Monday if OK.
As a consequence if you find some free minutes this week-end and test all the uploads that have been done today, and report any regression, that would be quite a great help.
--
Warly
The original can be found here.
"Be vewy vewy quiet, I'm hunting wuntime ewwors!" - Elmer Fudd
It's not. It went into beta some weeks after the x86 version. I guess they're planning an 8.2-for-Alpha as well, since there is currently an Alpha Cooker around.
If you want a version `optimised' for 386, 486, P3, P4 or Athlon, one of the things Mandrake carefully checked during this Cooker cycle was that Athlon optimisations worked properly, when selected. There is also a new package, rpm-rebuild, which will rebuild the entire distribution from source in one go.
They also timed the release rather well, fielding and dealing with the PHP, OpenSSH and zlib bugs in the 11th hour. It should be one of their best releases, BoC I'm no prophet: only time will tell.
Got time? Spend some of it coding or testing
I believe you could mix Mandrake and Debian (urpmi, at heart, doesn't care whether it's based on RPM or PKG), or SuSE and Caldera (for a distro that knows Novell and displays well), and get a much better outcome.
Got time? Spend some of it coding or testing
1. no matter what you do, Linux will not survive in it's current form, and that's a good thing. Linux is a living, growing beastie. It has no current form, at least not for more than a week.
2. Linux doesn't need or want to compete with Microsoft, certainly not head on. If you focus on beating your competitors, the best you can possibly do is slightly better than them, and who wants to aim so low?
3. What Linux wants to do is its own thing, and do it so well that Microsoft will die of natural causes. IRL, Linux doesn't care about Microsoft all that much. Linux will continue press on without publicity, without major funding, without lawyers, without distributors as such. That's how Linux was born, that's how Linux will live, and when its turn comes, that's how Linux will die.
Got time? Spend some of it coding or testing
No. Pensacola has nothing whatsoever to do with the next release of Red Hat Linux.
It's a beta of the enterprise edition of Red Hat Linux 7.2, tuned for high-end hardware and high load.
It's not what you typically want on your home box.
As for the next version, a beta will be released when it's ready. We don't preannounce releases.
This message is provided under the terms outlined at http://www.bero.org/terms.html
Please note that Pensacola is NOT a beta of the upcoming release of Red Hat Linux. It's a beta of the Red Hat Linux 7.2-based Enterprise product, tuned for high-end hardware and high load. It's not what you want to try on your home box and won't install on anything smaller than an i686.
A beta of the upcoming release of Red Hat Linux will be released when it's ready (we don't preannounce releases).
This message is provided under the terms outlined at http://www.bero.org/terms.html