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Black Is The New Beige

An anonymous submitter writes: "Spurred by Apple's innovations and the dangers of commoditization, computer makers are finally moving beyond beige. Rather than exploring diverse ideas, however, they have made a decision reminiscent of the fashionistas: black is the new beige (a NYTimes story)."

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  1. good cases by cr@ckwhore · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you're looking to go beyond the boring black and/or beige, here are a few nice case sources:

    www.lovermecases.com
    www.colorcases.com

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    1. Re:good cases by codingOgre · · Score: 2, Funny

      Once you go black you never go back!

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    2. Re:good cases by Skirwan · · Score: 2

      If you want to see a really distinctive case, try here.

      You can't buy one yet, but they seem to be coming.

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    3. Re:good cases by Gary+Yngve · · Score: 5, Funny

      But don't the black ones have bigger disks? ;)

    4. Re:good cases by Alien54 · · Score: 2
      I am just waiting for case designs and all that to become mainstream.

      On the other hand, you do have wooden cases

      This guy made his own

      I recall a company that specialized in wooden cases for everything from computers to PDAs. Some looked pretty good.

      here is a slash story from a few years back

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    5. Re:good cases by Genom · · Score: 2

      Once again, Geocities is useless. "Bandwidth Allocation Exceeded" ::sigh::

    6. Re:good cases by Lars+T. · · Score: 2

      At least the white ones have more floppys ;-)

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    7. Re:good cases by flagstone · · Score: 2, Funny

      Actually I heard if you put green around the outside edge of the case, the sound quality goes up.

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    8. Re:good cases by ncc74656 · · Score: 2
      Personally, I'm really fond of Alienware's selection.
      The mid-tower case they use for some of their machines looks like the Chieftec DX-01WD. I snagged a couple of 'em for home use...one from PC Club, the other from Newegg. They're available in beige, black, and (IIRC) dark blue. They're made of fairly thick material and are easy to work with (removable 3.5" drive cages, rails stored in the bottom for 5.25" drives, snap-in frames for lots of 80mm fans). They're schweet.
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    9. Re:good cases by webslacker · · Score: 2

      It's not the size of the disk that matters, it's how you use it!

  2. Black is beige... by Traser · · Score: 2, Funny

    And in the future, all RAM is going to come in a hypointelligent shade of the colour purple to complement the neon-red motherboard, the puke green power supply and the XP-ugly os on most computers. Now aren't you glad you didn't get a clear box?

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  3. These guys have color too by psxndc · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Alienware And these machines kick @$$ (the $ are intentional, you'll pay for it)

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    1. Re:These guys have color too by MindStalker · · Score: 2

      Actually their pretty boxes are extremly flimsy, atleast the last one I saw (about a year ago.) They might have changed.

    2. Re:These guys have color too by Mattygfunk · · Score: 2
      Arn't you going to mention where you read about it?


      Yeah I read playboy for the articles too.

    3. Re:These guys have color too by prator · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The boxes they use now are Antec cases. These things are very sturdy, but, unfortunately, very heavy.

      -prator

    4. Re:These guys have color too by the_2nd_coming · · Score: 2

      damn....those kick ass...

      well, I guess Apple finaly has a PC counterpart for price huh :-)

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    5. Re:These guys have color too by murdocj · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yeah, but their customer service is horrible. Simple stuff like monitor swaps under warranty take weeks. The individual people I dealt with seemed ok (one of them went out of his way to finally get me a monitor) but as an organization they seem to be really screwed up. At least, this was true about 6 months ago when I got my computer. I would never deal with them again.

    6. Re:These guys have color too by D_Gr8_BoB · · Score: 2

      For those of you too lazy to go to Google, here's a link to the Antec cases page. There's also a mixed review here, with some better pictures. In agreement with the article, 2/3 of their product lines come in either black or grey. I actually think the grey looks better, though - the black ones look too much like the new Dells for me.

  4. Recurrent cycles by ghostlibrary · · Score: 4, Funny

    That's okay, for a while White was the new Beige. Briefly, it looked like Purple might be the new Beige, and if you consult my young daughter, green-bug-shaped is her idea of the new Beige. No doubt barbie-Pink will be the new Beige for some subset of computing.

    And, in about six months, there will be a retro trend, and Beige will be heralded as the new Beige!

    Ah, fashion, you have arrived in the techie world!

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  5. NeXT by selderrr · · Score: 4, Interesting

    someone had to say it : Steve Jobs pushed black design for NeXT cubes, and Apple had a black Performa 6200 series along time ago.

    Although I consider black to be an advantage over beige since you don't see coffe or cola stains that much, I really doubt that a new color will boost PC sales all that much. If there's one thing that Apple does right, it's 'everything' : just changing colors won't do. The iMac was (and is again) a new formfactor, a new system, new bus (USB/firewire) new drives (slot loading iMacs)


    And anywhow, nothing beats a TiBook...

    1. Re:NeXT by jlower · · Score: 2

      Actually the only black Mac was the Mac TV which used the same case plastic as the 5xx series.

      It wasn't much of a computer, but I made a dandy fishtank out of one!

    2. Re:NeXT by Toraz+Chryx · · Score: 2

      the 20th Anniversary Mac was black. Like so

    3. Re:NeXT by jlower · · Score: 2

      D'oh! You are correct.

      Then there was the black Bell & Howell Apple II+ from the pre-Macintosh days. It came complete with black floppy drives. I've got one of those out in the garage awaiting the day they're worth something on eBay.

    4. Re:NeXT by cpt+kangarooski · · Score: 2

      Sadly, Steve screwed up in other ways.
      He intentionally made the manufacturing of the NeXT Cube difficult, both because he arbitrarily chose to make it out of cast magnesium, and because he didn't allow any cheating no matter how imperceptible.

      Worse still, it took a great effort to find paint that would adhere to the magnesium -- ultimately, NeXT had to have consultants from car companies come in to help out... even today, it's a PITA to touch up scratches (easily made) on Cubes.

      Hell, you can't even polish the damn things down to the bare metal properly -- it doesn't work nearly so well as actual chrome.

      Me, I kind of like the Zebra-striped or Fleckstone painted Macs that popped up once in a while as custom jobs back in the 80's.

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  6. Hmm.. tell me about it... by Diabolical · · Score: 2

    I'm managing a small network.. my boss ordered that every new system will be out of the EVO line from Compaq.. "stylisch black with a scent of silver". I'm allready bored by this fenomenon as i was with the beige outfits.. but anything beats the lollypop colors mixed with beige you see on the list of all those case manufacturers in an attempt to look a bit more fashionable...

  7. I'm confused... by tartanboy · · Score: 2, Funny

    Wait, so can I still wear white once the summer is over? I'm confused!

  8. I remember when... by Gordonjcp · · Score: 2

    ... all the cases were huge things, usually powder-coated in dark brown or black "crackle-effect" stuff. Big chunky CP/M machines came on the market with black anodised aluminium front panels, big LED's and wood-effect outer cases. Now *they* were cool cases...

    1. Re:I remember when... by Jucius+Maximus · · Score: 2, Informative

      The 'cool' cases will soon be those that are reflective. You've seen the nice shiny aluminium ones, but how about anodized blue? Frankly I think that this rocks... if only it came with a factory-installed side-window. If only I had money to buy it...

  9. Black? No way by ZaneMcAuley · · Score: 2

    Give me transparent or brushed metal cases any day.

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  10. I remember reading... by AltGrendel · · Score: 2

    ...in the article about the toolbox PC that the guy used some sort of vinyl color from an auto paint store. So the question become, why not change the color yourself? Case mods are case mods after all.

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  11. IBM by larien · · Score: 4, Funny
    As some of you might know, new IBM Unix servers are in black cases (along with black racks, black disk drawers etc). This even raised a comment in a meeting yesterday discussing an optical disk library:
    "It's a new library; it's even black"
    "That means it's new, does it?"
    "Oh, yes!"

    To be honest, I find the black better; we have a ton of older IBM kit and it just looks... well, old. The black looks more modern.

    Of course, the problem many of us will have with our PCs is a Frankenstein system as we have a beige case with black CD/floppy drives (or vice versa) as we upgrade. We're already having issues like that with some Sun Ultra 80s having black DVD drives (to match the Sunblades and servers).

    1. Re:IBM by er0ck · · Score: 2, Funny

      Of course, the problem many of us will have with our PCs is a Frankenstein system as we have a beige case with black CD/floppy drives (or vice versa) as we upgrade. We're already having issues like that with some Sun Ultra 80s having black DVD drives (to match the Sunblades and servers).

      Kind of like the redneck pickup trucks with body panels from 3 other trucks? Maybe you should paint some of your stuff with grey automotive primer to finish off the look. :)

    2. Re:IBM by maxpublic · · Score: 2

      Watch me boggle at the thought of a tech department obsessed with the *color* of their machines....

      Max

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    3. Re:IBM by larien · · Score: 2
      Hrm, old... that would figure. Hell, we're still using SPARCstation 20s in some places. Our archive server in one site was installed in 1995.

      The thing is, you buy a top-end system now, it's still useful 4-5 years down the line as something.

  12. CD-Rom and drive bay covers . . . by SimplyCosmic · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Will we ever see easy to change CD-Rom drive front covers to match your beige/black computer?

    If anything the clash of drive covers with anything other than the "standard" colors has made the move to a rainbow of colors.

    Perhaps a non-mono-color design would help, with black as the base color in order to more easily match drives, but with other colors accenting the machine to keep it from being the same dull design as the beige boxes?

    1. Re:CD-Rom and drive bay covers . . . by demaria · · Score: 3, Informative

      The Apple blue & white G3 towers solved this problem. The case had a hinged door in front of the CD drive, with a standard drive behind it. You could only see the beige when the tray was out.

    2. Re:CD-Rom and drive bay covers . . . by Zathrus · · Score: 2

      Will we ever see easy to change CD-Rom drive front covers to match your beige/black computer?

      Most CD drives have this already, and have had it for, well, forever... and I've never seen a floppy drive without a removable front bezel, largely because some cases don't allow a bezel at all on the floppy.

      There are many cases with a door over all the bezels so that even if you have mismatching colors, you can just hide it.

      Finally, you might be amazed at just how well a black felt tipped pen works on a beige or white bezel.

      The best online place I've seen for black cases, accessories, and bezels is Directron. They have decent prices and a pretty good record too. They have a large variety of color cases as well, along with aluminum, transparant, and random other stuff.

  13. Wait, wait, we meant "green is the new beige!" by Speare · · Score: 4, Funny

    PC Fashionistas exclaim, "Black is the new Beige!"

    I sure hope we're not going to read an article two weeks from now which explains some computing error, and how the new fashionable color is actually something one could describe as a dusty mint color.

    And please don't let them correct themselves again claiming that it's chic to use a sort of salmon/melon/peach color. I couldn't stand to boot up a computer of which the casing reminded me of tuna sashimi.

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  14. NeXT Cube Retro by Baldrson · · Score: 2

    I don't know why the article doesn't mention it, but it seems obvious that the post 9/11 fashion craze is that working for the spook shops is cool and that therefore we're all going black with NeXT Cube Retro. It's sort of like McCarthyesque 50's Retro but with that "Think Different" counter-culture 'tude.

  15. Stone cases? by ZaneMcAuley · · Score: 4, Funny

    I took an old PC case I had and used some stone spray (with the rough stone particles in it) on it. It looked like granite afterwards, pretty cool. The case was heavy anyway, so it was quite fitting :D

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  16. Its amazing... by ACK!! · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why can't computers companies get this fine point of consumerism right?

    Dell is a perfect example. I think that the Optiplex series make fine corporate desktops. Still the latest black case with a slightly odd front shape does not make it stylish in the least. In fact, in some ways they are actually uglier than the plain jane Optiplex GX110 I have in my cube.

    I don't care if its a cube or aluminum or has a winodw in the side or some combo. It seems that people like Compaq and Dell ought to have enough money to hire some industrial designers to come up with a nicier looking more functional case.

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    1. Re:Its amazing... by oyenstikker · · Score: 2

      Dell's new black cases are much better than the old GX1s and GXAs, for one simple reason: the sides are flat. My company mounts our computers in desks with suspended mounts below the desk. The new ones fit in and clamp tight very nicely. The old ones were never very secure. The design of the front is pretty lousy though. The front is rounded so the drives end up being somewhat recessed. You have to look really closely to see the difference between the zip and floppy drives, and the CD volume control is obscured. The black looks nice, but doesn't make up for bad design.

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  17. WARNING - goatse.cx link above!!! by matt_wilts · · Score: 2

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  18. Cosmo says... by MosesJones · · Score: 5, Funny


    Yes folks its Cosmos "Desktop and Tower Outfits for the girl about town"

    Feb: Black is back, everything will be black for ever

    May: Beige is the new Black

    June: Curved monitors are the new Flat Screens

    July: Oooh look at the pretty iMac and "how to make your keyboard match your nail polish"

    Sept: Black is back

    November: The must have USB accessories of the season, can you use your USB security key as an earing.. ifs its the D&G one you can

    December: Your Colour Therapy Horoscope for the coming year, how the colour of your PC case can change your life.

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  19. Apple "invented" the beige Personal Computer... by green+pizza · · Score: 5, Informative

    ...the original Apple II in 1977. Steve Jobs wanted a neutral color that would blend in to the average home.

    1. Re:Apple "invented" the beige Personal Computer... by Sloppy · · Score: 2, Funny

      Weird coincidence(?), since he also introduced the first widely-known (afaik) black computer in 1988. Is Jobs the industry fashion leader or something?

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    2. Re:Apple "invented" the beige Personal Computer... by green+pizza · · Score: 2

      The Apple ][ was black. The Apple ][+ was beige and future models as well.

      The only black Apple ][ models were those made for, and rebadged by, Bell+Howell. But yes, black Apple ]['s did exist.

    3. Re:Apple "invented" the beige Personal Computer... by Lars+T. · · Score: 2

      First black computer? Not by a long shot. At least the Sinclair ZX81 and QL (in case you dismiss the 81 for having white keys ;) came before the NeXT.

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    4. Re:Apple "invented" the beige Personal Computer... by GregWebb · · Score: 2

      A4000 was a nice pure white but made of cheap plastic and faded to a less pleasant yellow over time...

      The A4000T is the case you're thinking of, though, and I agree it looks seriously cool :-)

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    5. Re:Apple "invented" the beige Personal Computer... by DGolden · · Score: 2

      A4000T photo

      It really was great looking for its time, especially when you saw it in the "flesh" (that photo doesn't really do it justice). A contemporary PC next to it really looked like an eyesore.

      I think both white cases and black cases are much nicer than beige...

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    6. Re:Apple "invented" the beige Personal Computer... by Phroggy · · Score: 2

      Is Jobs the industry fashion leader or something?

      Yes, actually. Except that sometimes his Reality Distortion Field&trade (RDF) extends beyond the realm of computers - not long after the iMac came out, companies started selling Bondi Blue translucent plastic vaccuum cleaners, irons, etc. in addition to all the translucent plastic computer peripherals.

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    7. Re:Apple "invented" the beige Personal Computer... by spectecjr · · Score: 2

      Weird coincidence(?), since he also introduced the first widely-known (afaik) black computer in 1988. Is Jobs the industry fashion leader or something?

      Nah, that'd be the ZX81 (1981) or the ZX Spectrum (1982).

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  20. There have been other colors before....... by RobertAG · · Score: 2

    Back in the days before the PC architecture became king, Radio Shack used to sell computers with SILVER CASES. I distinctly remember people taking sandpaper to the cases to get to the BLACK primer underneath.

    There was also a number of WHITE cases sold by the various clone manufacturers during the mid 1990's.

    The picture in the NY Times article shoes a person painting a PC case. Perhaps that's the way to go. Someone should offer HANDPAINTED PC cases to people. You could have themes endorsed by various celebrities and artists.

    1. Re:There have been other colors before....... by Amazing+Quantum+Man · · Score: 2

      There was also a number of WHITE cases sold by the various clone manufacturers during the mid 1990's

      Gateway 2000. Their cases were white, not beige.

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  21. Dell... by GypC · · Score: 2

    Funny they didn't mention Dell, since they are one of the largest retailers. I don't think any of their stuff is beige anymore.

  22. This is new, how? by KC7GR · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Black cases have been available for years from such companies as Antec, Siliconrax, and others for years. How is this different?

    There are also numerous industrial PC companies that are happy to provide cases in whatever color the buyer chooses. I guess I'm just having trouble seeing why this piece is newsworthy...?

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    1. Re:This is new, how? by Peyna · · Score: 2

      Friend of mine had an Acer about 8 years ago that was black. They made some good pcs too, whatever happened to them?

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    2. Re:This is new, how? by Amazing+Quantum+Man · · Score: 2

      Packard Bell PCs were POSes, but I seem to recall them having a fairly innovative case design... it was kind of trapezoidal, designed to fit in a corner. Connectors were on the side. Anyone else recall that?

      Another company that used to make tanks and went to hell was Austin. We had an Austin 433E that was a fscking tank. Steel case. Steel rails. The thing weighed a ton. The machine (running SCO ODT2) ran for 7 years straight without problems (we finally retired it in '99). I wish I could have gone and stolen that case, but they weren't surplussing stuff at the time. Of course, then Austin went and got bought out by IPC, and started selling crap.

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  23. Alternatives by Mattygfunk · · Score: 2
    Could we possibly adapt another purpose to pc cases? Perhaps:
    • a whiteboard surface for quick notes
    • a screen-like surface where the pattern is editable from the PC
    • furry carpet covers like seat covers for your car to protect the case over time
    • more computer desks with the pc built in
    • cases with a shape that can be adjusted. Maybe several small boxes that seperatly contain parts of the computer, connected by wires to form a string of beads type shape

      Any more ideas?

    1. Re:Alternatives by liquidsin · · Score: 4, Funny

      furry carpet covers like seat covers for your car to protect the case over time

      Yeah, that's what my athlon needs...a fur coat, just in case it gets a little cold.

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    2. Re:Alternatives by HiQ · · Score: 2

      No useful ones. But I would go for a pc case with a very 'pointy' surface, so that it would act as a sort of cat repellant. My cats love to lie down on top of my pc's. Maybe because they're warmer, maybe they go for the nice vibes. But anyway, all the hairs are not too good for the pc, and on one of my cases is a scanner, and it happens too often that they throw the scanner of the case :(

    3. Re:Alternatives by Junta · · Score: 2

      True story, a roommate of a friend of mine had a computer and had blankets wrapped around it. When asked why, she said she was afraid that the system would be damaged by the cold. (Keep in mind this is standard climate control room, kept above 60 degrees at all times...)

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  24. Re:I guess only apple tried other colours by ZigMonty · · Score: 2
    BBTW: I would love to get the new iMac in a different colour (leopardskin maybe?). If appple wants to really get the market by the throat that would a good move.

    Apple still can't meet demand. They don't really need extra gimmicks. 150,000 iMac preorders in the first weekend (IIRC) and they've shipped 220,000 iMac to so far this year. Check out their financial report.

  25. What color do you want that database? by Decimal · · Score: 4, Funny

    "I think Beige has the most RAM..." -- Dilbert's Boss

    Sorry, couldn't resist. :)

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    1. Re:What color do you want that database? by ASyndicate · · Score: 2

      Except its mauve :)... but funny

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    2. Re:What color do you want that database? by stepson · · Score: 2, Funny

      Can I get the icon in cornflower blue?

  26. Best Cases by Apreche · · Score: 3, Informative

    In my opinion Coolermaster makes the best damn cases I've ever seen. Combine that with an enermax power supply and your in business. The Cooler Master ATC-210 is particularly awesome. You can buy them at a good price from monarch.

    http://www.coolermaster.com
    http://www.xpcgear. com/powersupply.html
    http://www.monarchcomputer.c om

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  27. Aluminium by Toraz+Chryx · · Score: 2

    It's not black, and it's not beige, but it's damn sexy

    1. Re:Aluminium by Toraz+Chryx · · Score: 2

      Yes, if you pay close attention they actually note it's a combination Steel/Alu construction.

      (and hey, lets face it, an SX1030 with panels that look that cool?.. DAMN)

  28. Hmm.. can't paint on black! by Monofilament · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Well, at first when i saw that people were starting to bring out Black cases I thought it was neat that there was variety. Now though if thats just going to be the new standard.. it kinda sucks.. Really I mean black.. you can't paint on that. One of the greatest things about beige is that its a perfect primer color. So maybe you're not artistic (like me), beige makes a great background for many a cool sticker. I personally have everything from rock bands to the infimous Dogbert "Out Out You demon's of stupidity" plastered on the side of my case (which by the way I know I wasn't the only one to invent the idea of making that into a sticker .. but I did come up with it on my own a few years ago.. literally like two minutes after I saw the comic).

    Anyway.. don't know exactly how black would fit into the whole sticker scheme.. probably wouldn't look right to me at least.

    Well who knows maybe in a few years the computer companies will steal the idea of the phone companies and start making designer shells for the PC with all kinds of pictures and all you gotta do is snap it on the side of the box.

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  29. I've seen this before... by Jugalator · · Score: 3, Funny

    Back to the days of the ZX Spectrum, eh? :)

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  30. Black isn't any better. by archen · · Score: 2, Funny

    Who cares about black? I want computers that look like these. May also have the benifit of being theft proof without a forklift, and plenty of room for the tank of liquid nitrogen to cool that over-clocked Athlon

  31. How about black Dell Optiplexes? by zerofoo · · Score: 2

    The school I work for has tons of black Dell Optiplex machines sitting near windows without any issues.

  32. Keeping computers "In Syle" by TheGreenLantern · · Score: 3, Funny

    Ugh. This reminds me of the horror stories I had back when I was home-delivering computers for CompUSSR...

    Horror Story 1: Delivered an HP something-or-other with 15" monitor to some 40 year old yuppie woman. She wants the thing setup on her roll-top desk. Only problem is that with the monitor setup, the roll-top wouldn't close. Rather than just leaving the roll-top open, though, or moving the computer to some other desk (of which she had plenty), we had to find her a monitor that would fit under that roll-top. We end up putting a floor model 15" that had a slightly different form, but was over a year older. All because the roll-top had to close.

    Horror Story 2: Another female yuppie comes in and drops 3 grand on the hottest piece of Compaq hardware in the place. Top of the line everything (at that time, forget the specs). She also gets a big-ass nice monitor, Laserjet, scanner, the whole nine yards. Home-Office setup to the max.

    I show up and start setting up this computer underneath the desk she wants her monitor/scanner/etc on, but no, it can't go under there. The tower has to be in that closet 8 feet away. And I want to be able to keep the door closed at all times too. Oh, and I want the speakers on these two little end-tables on opposite ends of the room. We end up drilling a fucking whole through the wall, running a big mass of extender cables underneath the carpet, and giving this ho a free pair of wireless speakers to accomodate her. And because we had to extend the video so far, a $500 monitor with hot-shit video card ends up looking like a color television from 1955. But that's OK, because the computer has to be in the closet out of site, instead of just underneath the computer desk which was designed to have a computer underneath it.

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    1. Re:Keeping computers "In Syle" by King+Babar · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Horror Story 1: Delivered an HP something-or-other with 15" monitor to some 40 year old yuppie woman. She wants the thing setup on her roll-top desk. Only problem is that with the monitor setup, the roll-top wouldn't close. Rather than just leaving the roll-top open, though, or moving the computer to some other desk (of which she had plenty), we had to find her a monitor that would fit under that roll-top. We end up putting a floor model 15" that had a slightly different form, but was over a year older. All because the roll-top had to close.

      OK, sport, so what's wrong with wanting your roll-top desk to close? Seriously, this is an article thread about the death of ugly beige boxes which was brought on in part by the fact that people are using computers more in the home, but don't want to have something as hideous looking as your average PC there. Or, let's put it another way: geeks are quite well-known for their refusal to compromise on principle, and often get insults or abuse as their reward for this. Now, you may be unfamiliar with the idea or unsympathetic to the notion that most traditional computer monitors make really crummy additions to virtually every decor. But, of course, the first thing you do is insult and try to make fun of somebody who has a different idea. Forgive me if I'm just not very impressed.

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    2. Re:Keeping computers "In Syle" by Pope+Slackman · · Score: 2

      OK, sport, so what's wrong with wanting your roll-top desk to close?

      If you want your roll-top desk to close,
      maybe you should just get a damn desk that's designed for a computer, and not try to stuff a CRT in a roll-top.

      If the computer is too ugly, put it in the basement, for god's sake! Don't send some $6.50 an hour kid back and forth to his store to swap components.
      He's getting paid for setting up your computer, not to be your fashion lackey.

      But, of course, the first thing you do is insult and try to make fun of somebody who has a different idea.

      Hey, if something that trivial causes so much hassle to me, I believe I have a right to bitch,
      whether you agree or not.

      C-X C-S

    3. Re:Keeping computers "In Syle" by mmaddox · · Score: 2

      We're seeing the essential problem with computer sales and service illustrated in the above posting: low-order geeks. These angry young misfits are self-proclaimed "computer experts" with little real experience or knowledge of the hardware and software world - they're merely ranting zealots for the latest opinion espoused in their favorite gaming rag. Go into your favorite computer store and hear them sing:

      • "Yeah, I wrote my own OS; it's better than Linux." (One of MY favorites)
      • "Windows!? Only llamas use Windows!" (Of course, he has it on his home computer for games.)
      • "Yessir...you can run Windows XP on a G4." I have a friend who recompiled it no sweat." (Heard THIS at the Tallahassee CompUSA from a "Mac Guy.")

        It's disgusting. So many people who think an A+ and MCSE are the be-all, end-all of career boosters. I refuse to buy from ANY freaking store where I have to talk to these clowns, and have taken to avoiding CompUSA entirely.

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    4. Re:Keeping computers "In Syle" by TheGreenLantern · · Score: 2

      If you want your roll-top desk to close, maybe you should just get a damn desk that's designed for a computer, and not try to stuff a CRT in a roll-top.

      Thank you. The desk in question was straight out of Edison's workshop for God's sake, and somehow it's our fault that her monitor won't fit perfectly in there.

      I guess what I'm really bitching about is this: I've never understood the need to "hide" a computer. Yes, they're beige. Yes, it doesn't match the curtains. So fucking what? It's a computer for Pete's sake, a tool you use to run your business, balance your checkbook, send pictures to the kids, whatever. If your so damn afraid of what Martha Stewart will think of the color coordination, put it in the rec-room or something.

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    5. Re:Keeping computers "In Syle" by 2nd+Post! · · Score: 2

      I dunno, it seems as valid to get a computer to fit your desk as it does to get a desk to fit your computer, doesn't it?

      You certainly have the right to bitch, but it doesn't mean I'll agree with you.

      I especially like the fact that TheGreenLantern can't understand why people like to hide their PC or have matching curtains.

      It's the same deep inner drive to shape the environment to meet internal requirements that drive Jobs to make the iMac LCD and domed, or Jobs to create WXP with product activation and Luna, or Linux to create his kernel, or anyone to do anything that doesn't just meet demands of survival, procreation, and child rearing.

      Okay, so that may be a bit general :)

    6. Re:Keeping computers "In Syle" by 2nd+Post! · · Score: 2

      Haha, my mistake. Gates, not Jobs, the second time.

  33. Who cares about a case? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's sitting underneath your desk. I have more important things to do than say:

    "Hey, look at my fucking computer. Look at that shit right there. You see that, motherfucker? That's a sweet looking machine. It's sweet enough that I could fuck one of its ports in the back. And look at that fucking neon light in it! Bad ass! You see how I ran my cables right there? Fucking 'leet, ain't it? And look at this shit over here, that's a goddamn SCSI card, bitch. You see the little red light on the card? That shit actually came with it, those fuckers at Adaptec already slammed the card before I even got it! Hey, shitface, get back over here, I'm not done showing you my 'rig'. That right there is a fucking CD burner, ass-fucker. You see that? I can burn a CD so fucking fast it'd scare the fucking RIAA, man. And would you fucking look at this shit! Holy fucking shit! This is a fucking DVD-ROM drive. I can watch fucking *movies* and shit on this motherfucker. *MOVIES*! And look right here. This case has no fewer than fucking 10 fans! 10, motherfucker! It sounds like a goddamn freight train up in this motherfucker! Or a fucking plane taking off at the fucking airport! Hey, bitch, speaking of airport, let me show you my slammed fucking laptop, this damn this is choice..."

    1. Re:Who cares about a case? by ZaneMcAuley · · Score: 2

      Well mine isnt sitting under my desk, its a full size tower, I also use it as a mouse pad (MS Intellipoint optical) and as part of my desk, so having something that is nice to look at is reasonable. Its not stuck in a server room, its not on a rack. Its part of my furniture. I have all my phone calls, tv, everything going trough it.

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    2. Re:Who cares about a case? by ArcSecond · · Score: 2

      Not dissing, man, but your sig isn't quite right. Instead of saying "tsardonic" is says "chardanik". Try using the "tsa" letter (looks like a right-angle "U" with a little hook on the bottom right). Just so you know.

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  34. Re:PCs should not be black! by goldspider · · Score: 2

    I gotta say, reading that almost made my fall out of my seat laughing. Flamebait, yes, but it should get a balancing "Funny" moderation as well, because come on, folks, that shit is funny!

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  35. Black Apple ][ by sunhou · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Back when I first started using computers in the early 80's, my middle school had some Apple ][+'s. But one of them was made by another company (I think it was HP?) It was black. (We always just called it the "black apple".)

    It had other cool stuff too, mainly it had an extra module covering the back, which had a volume knob on it among other things; the standard apple ][+'s had no volume knob. I always liked the black apple better than the beige apples.

    1. Re:Black Apple ][ by toupsie · · Score: 2

      Bell & Howell was the manufacturer. I used to see those models in museums a lot in the early 80s.

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    2. Re:Black Apple ][ by sunhou · · Score: 2

      Ah, Bell & Howell. I was thinking Hewlett Packard, although Packard Bell came to mind, but I kept thinking "no, it couldn't have been Packard Bell". So I was at the wrong end of the "Hewlett Packard Bell Howell" chain.

      That link you posted also confirmed something else I had vaguely remembered, that there were extra outlets on that module on the back, so you could plug the monitor into them, and have the power to the monitor automatically cut when you shut off the Apple. Hey, it may not seem like much now, but at the time it was a nice little bonus feature.

      I've still got my tan Apple ][+. I really wish I had a black one.

    3. Re:Black Apple ][ by toupsie · · Score: 2

      Can't say I still I have an Apple ][+ but I have my 1982 Apple //e still in my closet and pull it out every once and a while to play "Cytron Masters". I had an Apple ][ but sold it to buy the Apple //e. Even ran an AE BBS and a Catfur BBS on the Apple //e for a couple of years. I remember when we used to call that the "Golden Age" of Apple. :)

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  36. What about rackmount? by JabberWokky · · Score: 3, Interesting
    I use rackmount machines - I've always been looking for cool rackmount cases. You can find prebuilts with really nifty looking cases, but the normal rackmounts are really boring black or beige. I have no problems whatsoever with black cases, but they are generally really crappy textured enamel.

    Also, if anybody knows of any cool rackmount gadgets (either semiuseful, like a serial LCD scroller, or downward pointing lightbar to illuminate controls) or useless (blinkenlights), or cheap blank plates to dremel and insert your own stuff, that'd be cool too.

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    1. Re:What about rackmount? by ShavenYak · · Score: 3, Informative

      ... or downward pointing lightbar to illuminate controls)...

      Go to Musician's Friend and search for Racklight. You might also look for rackmount power conditioners - most of the good ones have lights as well.

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    2. Re:What about rackmount? by JabberWokky · · Score: 2
      Yeah - I should have pointed out the examples were real - I've seen it at Mars music. I was just using it as an example of a semiuseful item. (Essential for a rack on stage, or in a mixer pit (I'd imagine for a DJ too), but just semiuseful for a computer rack). I've seen the serial fed LCD panel too, and the blikenlights useless panel.

      I was just using them as examples - any other neat stuff you've seen /similar/ to the things I listed? Maybe a site full of such stuff? I wonder if Thinkgeek could sell enough racks to make it worthwhile?

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      Evan

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  37. Apple had black a LONG time ago by asmithmd1 · · Score: 4, Informative

    the Apple II was issued in black version a by Bell and Howe,this was in the early 1980's

  38. Desktop cases by Ouroboro · · Score: 3, Interesting

    What I want to know is... What the hell happened all of the desktop cases? It's getting hard to find a good looking case that is made to sit on it's side. I would like to include a pc as part of my home audio equipment, but I don't want to shell out a metric shitload of money for a decent case. This is probably the best looking one I have found so far, but the cheapest I can find it for is $225. I know I could just use a standard rack mounted case, but I wan't something that will match my other components.

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  39. NY reg by ryepup · · Score: 2, Informative

    user:slashdot314 pass:slashdot

  40. Eww, it clashes with my blouse! by Chelloveck · · Score: 4, Funny

    Look, guys... It's a computer. It's a tool, not an objet d'art. Shove it under your desk and forget about it already! Who cares what flippin' color it is? In a couple months it'll have that "accumulated dust" veneer anyway.

    Now, quit messing with those case mods and get back to something important. Like desktop themes.

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    Chelloveck
    I give up on debugging. From now on, SIGSEGV is a feature.
  41. I thought. by SLot · · Score: 2, Funny

    that Pink was the new Black?!?!!

    *must turn in goth membership card*

  42. But... What Color was it before BlacK?? by dbretton · · Score: 4, Funny

    Originally, the new PC color was TURQUOISE.

    However, after an extensive study, researches at the Fashion Dept. at John Hopkins University discovered a slight color-wheel miscalculation in their assessment of the Spring 2002 PC line.
    It turns out now, that Beige is the new black.

  43. Wait A Minute! by dbretton · · Score: 2

    I think they got that backwards...

    Isn't beige the new black ??

  44. Whoa there, cowboy... by No+Such+Agency · · Score: 4, Insightful

    OK, yeah we all hate yuppies, and LUsers as well, but geez, who cares what these women (and yes, you seem to think their gender is relevant here) want to do with their _own property_? If they want to run 8 feet of video cable to their monitor, and you get paid to do it, where's the bad? These are mass-manufactured objects, it's not like a work of art is being shut away in that closet... And personally, if I had a roll top desk, I'd want it to close too. They're cool. Granted, the design pre-dates PC's, but if this lady wanted the two to work together, good for her. Don't be so judgmental, a contemptuous geek is not a pretty thing :-(

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    Freedom: "I won't!"
    1. Re:Whoa there, cowboy... by Zathrus · · Score: 2

      Exactly.

      And, of course, if he'd used cables worth a damn the video would've been fine. Not that CompUSA sells those kind of cables.

      The only nit is that the people really should've checked measurements and whatnot beforehand to make sure that things would work as expected in the location they wanted, but who here has ever bought something and discovered that it doesn't QUITE fit? Personally, I keep expecting Lowe's and Home Depot to tell me "No, sorry sir, you've returned/exchanged enough this year"

  45. sgi... by bdcfan · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I remember working on a teal blue Indy & purple Indigo2 at my old job in the mid-nineties. But sgi always did colored workstation cases way back in the 80's (check out the brown & red Iris Crimson & the Blue Indigo1). People used to always comment on how unique(they either loved 'em or laughed at 'em) our computers were. We were all designers, so aesthetics of the boxes were important to us. That's why we picked sgi---they had the coolest looking ones.

  46. I doubt it by infinite9 · · Score: 3, Funny

    I doubt it. Once you go black, you'll never go back.

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    Disconnect your television. Do your own research. Draw your own conclusions. They're probably lying. Don't be a sheep.
  47. Color of the case? by CharlieG · · Score: 2

    Who care what color the case is - The computer is in one of two states:

    1)It's under the desk, and you can't see it
    2)It's on top of the desk, and the cover is off

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    1. Re:Color of the case? by CharlieG · · Score: 2

      Well, for me, the only time the computer is ON the desk is to change a card or repair it. Like most folks (Including the NON techs), it's usually on the floor (acting as an ottoman as I type this)

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      -- 73 de KG2V For the Children - RKBA! "You are what you do when it counts" - the Masso
  48. Re:Spray Paint it! by arivanov · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Been there...

    Done that...

    Really dark blue is even more nifty then black if you get the shade right.Painting the bits of plastic is usually a problem but the boxes themselves can be painted no probs.

    The best choice are car repair kit paints. They are a bit more expensive but spread better and have better coverage.

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  49. Been there, done that.... by Dynedain · · Score: 2

    2 Years ago I took apart my case, took it outside and spraypainted it black. I did the same with the drive bezels and the keyboard (but not the keys). There was a grey panel for the switches, leds, fan, etc. that was grey. I painted it a nice, slightly orange, yellow, the only other color I had at the time. After reassembling it, and replacing the Tux doll sitting on top, I was astonished at how well the colors/proportions/locations matched. I had inadvertantly created a computer that looked like Tux. I wish I had taken pictures. Unfortuneately, that computer is dead, replaced by a shiny heavy duty brushed aluminum vault from coolermaster. Various parts of "Tux" were scavenged to put a computer inside an aluminum briefcase. Oh well.

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  50. Re:Well... by Dicky · · Score: 2
    If you buy a computer because of its color you deserve what you get.

    One of these?

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  51. Wear Black - Good News for Nerds! by 4of12 · · Score: 2

    If you're wearing all black then it's Okey Dokey to button up that top button on your shirt!

    But be warned - wearing short pants that expose hairy calves is still considered gauche!

    --
    "Provided by the management for your protection."
  52. Black sucks by hendridm · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is nice until I want to upgrade my brand new black machine. I go to Best Buy and pull the latest bargain drive off the shelf, put it in my box, and stare at my new black-and-beige creation, ugly as hell.

    I suppose I could always paint it, but I never had to do that before and I don't really want to now. I suppose I could switch to all external devices *sigh*.

  53. why not change color on the fly? by teamhasnoi · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Why not have heat-sensitve film on the outside of your case, sort of a mood ring for your pc? Or vinyl sheets like the ones on fast food resturant windows.(static?) You could then change the color as often as you want. Make the case modular with different color panels or hell, I would just go for an interchangeable front panel.

    Eventually everything'll be in a closet somewhere and you'll be wanting to get a new pair of wireless VR glasses..."I really like those new RayBans, the ones with the widescreen option. Do they come in tortise-shell?"

  54. It was only a matter of time... by cswiii · · Score: 2

    ...until women stopped looking for the "little black dress". Now they'll be shopping for the "little black box".

  55. Dust by asv108 · · Score: 2

    I think black boxen look great, but if you have a dust problem, you will end up cleaning your boxen every day. This problem is especially apparent if you have multiple boxen in a small confined area. My black Klipsch promedia speakers look filfy, 24 hours after cleaning them. Beige works well because it hides the dirt. It may not be pretty, but it sure is practical.

  56. shades of black. by oyenstikker · · Score: 5, Funny

    If everyone used #000000 black, it would be fine. All black things would be black. But Dell's black is really dark grey, and someone else's black is really navy blue, and someone else's is a lighter dark grey. Looks almost as silly as having 4 drives that are 4 different shades of beige, none of which are the shade of the case.

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    The masses are the crack whores of religion.
    1. Re:shades of black. by GregWebb · · Score: 2

      Whatever colour gets picked will fade with time, making this all rather pointless...

      Black will go grey, white will go grey or yellow. Beige gets lighter in patches depending on what's covering it. Given enough time in the sun, nothing matches.

      Me, I want unpainted metal :-)

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      Greg

      (Inside a nuclear plant)
      Aaaarrrggh! Run! The canary has mutated!

    2. Re:shades of black. by GregWebb · · Score: 2

      ;-) and given that I'm posting from work in the UK, well, what do I know about that? :-( Leaving in a mo, honest...

      Anyway. Can't remember the chemistry of it all, but light (just UV?) fades colours, especially in some plastics. So if you leave it in sight of any windows and maybe some light bulbs with a specific pattern in front of it (such as your keyboard, CD rack, whatever) it'll ultimately discolour the plastic in a rather interesting fashion which highlights the previous presence of an object. But, the point I was _really_ making was that when you've got 5 cases which started off the same colour a few years back and have since been used, they've not got a whole lot of hope of still being the same colour. Making it all a little redundant...

      OTOH, computer users tend to get accused of being vampires for closing all blinds and relying on flourescent lights - maybe it's really so that our cases still colourmatch? ;-)

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      Greg

      (Inside a nuclear plant)
      Aaaarrrggh! Run! The canary has mutated!

  57. Big Blue by finny · · Score: 2, Funny

    This article has an interesting sidebar in the paper edition regarding the Altair which chose "a classy powder blue exterior" instead of beige as the color for it's pc's.

    Best quote: "..the company chose blue because of the blue mainframe computers used by IBM, as if to suggest that the inexpensive, general-purpose Altair microcomputer was also a real computer"

  58. Re:Alienware Warranty by NumberSyx · · Score: 2

    That doesn't mean that if your box dies on Monday that a guy will be out there to fix it Tuesday.

    This is exactly the reason I don't buy my equipment over the internet or phone. I shop locally, at a Ma & Pop store. Sure I pay more, but I have a personal relationship with these people, they know me and even sent my wife flowers when she was in the hospital. When I have a problem with a warrantied item, I take it in and the next day I pick it up, easy as that. Once when I was having problems with a Sound Blaster Live card, the owner of the shop took my machine home with him and worked on it all night, so he could have it for me the next day. It turned out to be a compatibility issue between the MSI motherboard and the SBL card, both worked fine without the other. They swapped my motherboard for another brand and it has worked like a champ ever since. You can NOT get this kind of service from Dell, Alienware or any of the other big boys. If I shopped at Dell, I'd just be a drop in thier bucket, but at this shop, I am one of thier best customers and they treat me well.

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    "Our products just aren't engineered for security,"
    -Brian Valentine,VP in charge of MS Windows Development

  59. Camo the new black by gelfling · · Score: 3, Funny

    Operation Infinite Loop!! paint yer server Camo. Let's see we have desert grey, desert blue, desert brown, brown, green, green brown, brown grey, granite, low contrast dusk, black grey, air superiority grey and sunday finest redneck gold

  60. Black? no freakin way... by Rackemup · · Score: 2
    I find black cases to be pretty damn ugly, almost as ugly as the beige boxes except it's harder to find drives to match.

    My next case will probbaly be a Lian-Li PC68, brushed aluminum. Yeah it's going to be a bitch to find drive faces to match but it'll destroy my current beige box in every way.

    I can find rounded cables galore now, so why is it so hard to find a DVD drive with an aluminum faceplate?

  61. Innovations? by rnturn · · Score: 2
    ``Spurred by Apple's innovations...''

    Hmm... maybe be it's just me, but making a translucent case doesn't strike me as being terribly innovative. Stylish is more accurate (IMHO).

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  62. Available also In the UK by CProgrammer98 · · Score: 2
    at scan computers as the "scan scorpio" case. I have one and it's the best case I've ever had, except mine had a faulty psu originally, but they are a joy to work on. The removable drive bays are great!

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  63. I guess in the future computers look... by mr3038 · · Score: 2

    ...a lot like todays audio equipment. The crap will look like this and the better stuff like this. Expect all visible surfaces to be manufactured from brushed aluminium, chrome and glass. The quality of the product will be inverse to the number of blinking lights in the front.

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  64. barbie pink already happened by CProgrammer98 · · Score: 2

    here and here

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    1. Re:barbie pink already happened by ahde · · Score: 2

      dude, that's sweet. I was going to get one of these or these but you changed my mind.

  65. Ooooh Black! Very Black. by tswinzig · · Score: 2

    "It's like space without the stars."

    "It's like a pastel black."

    "How much more black could this be? And the answer is... none... none more black."

    -- SpinalTap (reminiscing on the color black.)

    --

    "And like that ... he's gone."
  66. steve jobs - design is not veneer! by johnrpenner · · Score: 5, Insightful


    --- Steve Jobs on Design ---

    Fortune Magazine: What has always distinguished the products of the
    companies you've led is the design aesthetic. Is your obsession with design
    an inborn instinct or what?

    Steve Jobs: We don't have good language to talk about this kind of thing.
    In most people's vocabularies, design means veneer. It's interior decorating.
    It's the fabric of the curtains and the sofa. But to me, nothing could be
    further from the meaning of design. Design is the fundamental soul of a
    man-made creation that ends up expressing itself in successive outer layers
    of the product or service. The iMac is not just the colour or translucence or
    the shape of the shell. The essence of the iMac is to be the finest possible
    consumer computer in which each element plays together.

    On our latest iMac, I was adamant that we get rid of the fan, because it is
    much more pleasant to work on a computer that doesn't drone all the time.
    That was not just "Steve's decision" to pull out the fan; it required an
    enormous engineering effort to figure out how to manage power better and do
    a better job of thermal conduction through the machine. That is the furthest
    thing from veneer. It was at the core of the product the day we started.

    This is what customers pay us for--to sweat all these details so it's easy
    and pleasant for them to use our computers. We're supposed to be really good
    at this. That doesn't mean we don't listen to customers, but it's hard for
    them to tell you what they want when they've never seen anything remotely
    like it.

    fortune - january 24, 2000

    regards,
    john penner

  67. jonathan ive - swoopy curves Are Not design by johnrpenner · · Score: 3, Insightful



    ---| swoopy curves Are Not design |---

    Certainly, the PC industry has never revered design, preferring blocky
    beige boxes or, more recently, coloured go-faster curves devoid of real
    function. He's scornful of those who use 'swoopy shapes to look good,
    stuff that is so aggressively designed, just to catch the eye. I think
    that's arrogance, it's not done for the benefit of the user.'

    By contrast, he says, "you won't be able to find a single thing on an
    Apple that hasn't had thought put into it"...

    With the first iMac the goal wasn't to look different, but to build the
    best integrated consumer computer we could. If as a consequence the shape
    is different, then that's how it is. The thing is, it's very easy to be
    different, but very difficult to be better. That's what we have tried to
    do with the new iMac."

    (THE SHAPE OF THINGS TO COME, Interview with Jonathan Ive,
    Charles Arthur talks to the designer of the iMac, January 14 2002)

    --

    regards,
    john penner

  68. And for the detailing... by Thag · · Score: 2

    And for the fine detailing work, on things like nonremovable floppy and DVD drive bezels, get a matte or glossy black paint marker so that you can paint it in place without having to disassemble it.

    I got my paint marker at a gun store, where they are sold as touchup markers to fill in scratches on black milspec finishes, but I think art stores carry them too.

    Black is pretty sweet, especially once you get a black IBM monitor with a Trinitron tube, like my stealth black G96.

    Jon Acheson

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    All opinions expressed herein are my own, and not those of my employers, who are appalled.
  69. IBM's committment to black by Animats · · Score: 2

    IBM's high-end PCs ("workstations") have been black for years. So are most of their rackmount systems. This is news?

  70. Tricky bits:The Black Monitor and Keyboard by Thag · · Score: 2
    I have a black IBM G96 monitor, which has a 19" Trinitoron tube in it and is oh so sweet, but it wasn't cheap, and you can't buy it at your local store.

    Spray-painting is kind of awkward, since to do it right you really have to disassemble the monitor, and there is apparently a shock hazard there.

    Any experiences with other makes of black monitor? When I did my search, these were the companies I found that were selling black monitors:

    • Acer
    • Antec
    • Compaq
    • IBM
    • Micron
    • Nokia
    • Toshiba
    • Viewsonic

    I also found Directron to be handy, as they have a whole page full of black system components.

    I haven't found a good black keyboard yet. Ideally, they'd start making the good IBM buckling-spring keyboards in black again, and it has been rumored they will, but I have yet to see them for sale. Right now I have a cheapo $19.00 IBM black keyboard, but it really sucks and I want to get rid of it.

    Any suggestions? Spray paint is not a good suggestion for the keyboard, since you lose all the lettering.

    Jon Acheson

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  71. Obligatory case mod story by Hydro-X · · Score: 2, Informative

    My friend and I decided to build new PCs at the same time to save cash on shipping etc. We both purchased Antec 1240 towers (If you've never seen them, these things are huge. The top of my machine has maybe a half inch of clearence with the bottom of my desk, and I have a rather tall desk.). The only dissapointment was that these cases weren't availible in black (through our supplier anyway). Anyway, my friend came up with a sweet idea for a case mod. First of all, we paint the cases black. The case is completely modular so we can remove everything and paint it seperately (except the top part, which involves removal of pop rivets). Then on one side, we dremel out a trapezoid (actually, we should do this before painting..). Then we take a sheet of non-yellowing Lucite, cut a trapezoid a bit larger on all sides then the one on the case. We stencil on a design, fill in some spaces with black paint, and mount it on the side, painted side facing inward, with 1/4 inch bolts with polished heads (for that industrial look). To complete the mod, we'll (eventually) purchase lights to mount in the top of the case. My friend's plan is to stencil a biohazard logo on the Lucite, black out the parts that are normally red on the logo, allowing yellow light to shine through the logo itself. Also, the light should be visible around the edges of the Lucite.

    We went to the local Home Hardware a few weeks ago and already purchased some water-based (to avoid the chance of melting the plastic bezel because the cases are 300$CDN a piece) gloss black paint, a 2 foot x 4 foot sheet of Lucite, 16 polished 1/4 inch bolts, 16 1/4 inch nuts and 2 paint brushes. This should be enough to do the 2 Antecs as well as the case of my old Linux machine (as a test).

    Total cost: 50$ canadian total, so 25$ each (not including the lighting of course). And we should have more then enough Lucite left over to do at least a few more cases. So with a little luck, this might just pay for itself. We intend to do this sometime next month when it's dry enough out for the paint to dry quickly. These wicked cases just got a little more wicked.

  72. Black computers are new and hip; black pagers not by leighklotz · · Score: 3, Interesting

    When George Fisher, the outgoing president of Motorola went to Kodak to help lead their "digital revolution," he was asked by the press what lesson he was taking. He said roughly, "For a technologist it was humbling to realize that you could triple the sales of a pager just by offering it colors other than black."

    Unfortunately, the US Military disagrees:

    Under the upcoming regulation only one electric device will be authorized for wear on the uniform in the performance of official duties. The device may be either a cell phone or pager -- not both. The device must be black and may not exceed 4 x 2 x 1 inches.

    So, while black may be the cool new color for computers, it's long since passe for pagers and cell phones, and in fact has become military-conservative.

  73. Is it remotely possible by T1girl · · Score: 2

    ...that one or more of these "female yuppies" thought you were kind of cute and kept dreaming up little add-ons and carpentry projects to keep you around her apartment long enough to see what might happen next?

  74. Automotive Paint by rchatterjee · · Score: 3, Interesting

    3Dcool makes some really cool looking modded cases using automotive paint but they're out of my price range :(.

  75. Re:So is this wrong? by TheGreenLantern · · Score: 2

    Hey, don't get me wrong, I got paid my hourly rate. What ticks you off, though, is when a customer comes in, drops $39.95 for home deliverly/setup (or gets it free depending on how spineless the sales guy was), and when you get out there it turns into a Task of Hercules. Meanwhile after 4 hour installs you come back and the manager wonders why you can't keep that $80/hr productivity number up.

    What it basically comes down to is that sales jockeys and managers of retail computer stores fold like a house of cards anytime a customer says Boo. I can't tell you how many times I heard, "But the salesman/manager said you'd do X". And your right, customer service pretty much demands that you do it. If a customer wants to put their box in the fucking fridge, fine, pay me enough and I'll do it with a smile. Just don't expect me to come out there willing bend over backwards for your pittance delivery fee simply because you think the Compaq logo clashes with the carpet.

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  76. Behind the times. by Kris_J · · Score: 2

    Beige gave way years ago. Remember when everything that was trying to be funky came out teal? Well, orange is the new teal. If you want to be funky and new at the moment, but not actually be risky and innovative, then go for orange.

  77. looking beyond color by interstellar_donkey · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I wish PC designers (as well as all consumer electronics designers) would experiment a little more with their designs.

    It used to be all large TVs were in a wood cabinet. They were generally beautiful. Then sometime in the late 80s there were all sort of experiments in design, and it took several years for the winner to emerge; today's black molded plastic standard that pretty much all of our TVs are.

    Around that same time, component stereo equipment switched from silver with the occasional wooden accents to the now standard black.

    And that seems to be the lifespan of consumer electronics design. Functional-experiment-functional-stylish-functual black. Every so often somebody will break from the heard, but will eventually come back to the standards.

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  78. Ugh by Com2Kid · · Score: 2

    I have posted this before in long detail, so let me make it short;

    I FUCKING LIKE BEIGE BOXS DAMNIT

    and if this gets moded to +1 funny like it did last time I am SOOO going to hurt someone, I AM SERIOUS. BEIGE IS GOOD DAMNIT.

    Beige, Steel, Strong. Full tower, steel, beige cases rock.

    Black computers, meh. I would rather go function over form.

    Besides since I have computer equipment from so many different eras, I have a pretty darn nice gradient of beige. :) It is pretty darn nifty how the color of computer cases has kept on getting lighter and lighter and lighter and then all of a sudden switched to black!

    No wait, that black part is bad.

    I LIKE BEIGE DAMNIT.

  79. Re:NeXT and evolution of the computer by spectecjr · · Score: 2

    Manufacturers selling over the web offer you a choice of color and or style for your plain vanilla computer guts? Why not. To a limited degree this is probably happening, but not by major players, yet.

    That depends on who manufactures your video card. You can get currently get blue, bright red, yellow, amber, neon green, and regular old fashioned PCB-green too.

    Simon

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  80. If you look at the article immediately after this by ahde · · Score: 2

    on the front page, you'll get a little insight into why boxes have remained beige for so long, and that a modest, nondescript color (black) is its most popular successor.

    Most people don't intend to derive satisfaction from the case that holds their computer hardware. They would rather *do* something with their computer. A relatively basic familiarity with computers tends to associate computing with the output of the computer, and users will tend to look at the picture in the box on top of or beside or away from the computer case. (Maybe combining the monitor with the case is a symptom of an inferiority complex -- if you don't want to look at the case, maybe integrate the case with the screen so it looks like you're looking at it) -- within the UI itself, most people aren't too concerned about how the UI makes them feel inside, they are more interested in what it lets them do.

  81. My TRS-80 was silver by ahde · · Score: 2

    and the break key was red

  82. Re:Registration by Decimal · · Score: 2

    Yep, and luckily I have images turned off by default.

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  83. Re:Black - heat? by ahde · · Score: 2

    we need to get back to fake woodgrain. Like on Ataris