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RealNames Closing Shop

The_THOMAS writes: "The company RealNames, which tried to make a buck off of the domain name gold rush by adding their own layer on top of the ICANN system, is going out of business (Full story here). To review, the RealNames system is a browser plugin which redirects a user who types 'cookies' in the IE address bar to Nabisco.com. The reason for the closure appears to be the decision by M$ to NOT renew their agreement with RealNames which expires in June."

206 comments

  1. fp! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    wahoo!!!!

    1. Re:fp! by on+by · · Score: -1

      It was another hot sticky evening. I live in a small town of around 20,000
      people...very rural driven, with lots of farms surrounding the town. I was
      driving home from work, when I parked up on the lakefront to eat my
      McDonalds. I'm 21 years old, am straight, slim with a nice tan. I don't
      work out ever, but I look healthy.

      It was late on the summer's evening...around 9pm...and as usual, there were the
      "boyracers" parked up in the same car park. These guys are mostly 15 -- 18
      year olds still at school. They wear all the labels, are typically jocks,
      and have sexy cars which are lowered, have loud stereo's, tinted windows and
      spoilers. There were around 20 cars...all with these teens boozing and doing
      drugs. I was wearing my jeans and a t-shirt, and they were mostly wearing
      singlets, khakis trousers, baseball caps and sunglasses. There was only one
      car park -- between 1 sexy black car and a lowered wagon with tinted windows.
      I sat there eating my food, but I couldn't help look at the guys next to
      me. They had muscled arms, sexy tans, were mostly clean shaven, and they
      were all blonde -- except for one black guy. I had a boner just looking at
      them, which I was gently rubbing between by jeans. Suddenly someone yelled
      out "hey look this guys a fag -- he's rubbing himself". Suddenly 4 other
      teens came over to my car. The black guy grabbed my arm through the window
      (which was wound down). "you fag...you want some?". I didn't know what to
      say.

      "get out" said one of the blonde guys, with the bluest eyes ever and a smell
      of sweat and Tommy boy cologne....he appeared to be the leader...he was the
      sexiest by far....well tanned, and his body well defined, but his muscles
      weren't huge. I could see one of his large brown nipples peering out from
      around his singlet. "get in the wagon" he said. I stepped out, and they
      quickly shoved me in the back of the van. 2 jumped in the front, and the
      other 3 hopped in the back with me. They all looked so boyish. Fuck I was
      horny. The wagon smelled of piss and beer and grass. Also sexy cologne. I
      was laying on a black matress which was COVERED in cum stains. The black
      guy punched my arm...my cock got harder. "You gonna learn to fucken be a man
      tonight you fucken faggot". I looked up and saw the two cutest
      twinks...probably both 16, fully french kissing. They were both wearing
      shorts, one had fine blonde hairs on his legs...the other had shaven legs.
      The guy with the hair legs was rubbing the smooth twink, and his hand was
      massaging his balls through the legs in his Khakis. The stereo was up loud
      and the car was driving fast....I knew we were heading out into the country.
      Suddenly the black guy removed his army trousers, and he had the biggest
      blackest, juiciest cock I have EVER seen. He had trimmed pubes, and shaven
      legs. "suck it bitch"....I didn't have time to argue...he slammed his meat into
      my throat. I sucked on his purple head. "finger my hole you white fag". I
      licked my finger, and it quickly slid into his shithole...which felt smooth
      and clean. "oh yeah....fuck that hole.... Suck that fat hot cock....oh yeah".
      I rubbed his smooth warm thighs with my other hand.

      Suddenly the wagon skidded around a corner and into an isolated rest area
      next to a farm. The car stopped, then we reversed. Then the back doors
      opened, and the car was parked with the rear facing into a field...with a
      black horse in it. There were tree's all around us and no other signs of
      people. One of the drivers had a small video camera and was videoing me
      sucking this black guys cock.

      "oh fuck, oh god, oh you bitch, suck my nigger cock, oh yeah, OHHHHH"
      suddenly jets of boiling hot, thick sticky cum bolted down my mouth, down my
      throat and over my face. His body shuddered.....he then pushed me over on to
      my back. They dragged the mattress out of the car and onto the ground. One
      of the teens was out with the horse bringing him over. There was a full
      moon, and the car had bright lights on the inside. The horse came over to
      us...then they all removed their clothes. The other teens were blonde with
      sexy firm stomachs, slight muscles, and they had sexy shaven legs. I was
      in paradise. These sexy teens were all gonna fuck me hard and raw.

      Then one of the boys pashed me....."ohhhh" he moaned as our tongues twisted.
      Then the leader guy ripped my t-shirt off, and twisted my nipples.
      "arrrrgghh" I screamed. "fuck up fag" he said, and he kicked me in my
      thigh........he kept pinching and twisting....my cock was SO hard, and dripping
      cum. I then stopped kissing this gorgeous twink, and turned around...and
      there was the black guy sucking the horses cock with the blonde boy with the
      hairy legs, sucking, licking and massaging the horses balls.

      "ok mother fucker, your turn" said the leader. I knelt down under the horse
      and placed my lips around the horses black long cock. I couldn't believe
      what was happening. I could smell beer, and 2 of the boys were drinking
      beer. The leader then unbuttoned my jeans...."oh yeah, look at that piece of
      meat" he said. "Troy -- fix his cock". Troy, the young teen with the shaven
      legs, leaned into the wagon and pulled out a small black bag. He placed two
      clips onto my nipples...I screamed in pain, but again the leader kicked me in
      the thigh....."fuck up slut....suck the cock...that's what you love faggot"....then
      a cock ring was placed around my cock so I couldn't cum... and Troy went to
      town, sucking on my cock. Then the leader removed my jeans, and spat spit
      and snot onto my ass....he rubbed it in with a finger, then pushed his cock
      deep into me. "ohhh yeah, fag.....yeah.....let me fuck your virgin ass...ohhhh".
      The guy filming all this also was masterbating his cock. The black guy was
      drinking beer and his cock had come back to life. And the teen with the
      hairy legs started fucking Troy up the ass while he sucked me.

      Then the horse started making a noise.....and then it came....huge wads of horse
      cum sprayed over my face, and into my mouth. I swallowed as much as I could
      but there was gallons of it. The hot cum covered me head to toe. Then the
      leader came up my ass.....he wrapped his arms tightly around my neck, almost
      strangling me as his firm, hard body convulsed and his cock twitched and
      exploded up my ass hole. I had to cum but I couldn't. His smooth chest
      rubbed up and down my cum covered back.

      The horse wandered off, and Troy then started kissing my chest and eating
      the horse sperm. Then another car pulled up.... guy around 18 got out. He
      had long black hair, and wasn't clean shaven. He removed his shorts and
      hopped over the fence and up to us. They all knew who he was. I didn't.
      He removed his khakis and flopped out the longest cock I have ever seen. He
      smelt of real man, and he was sexy in a dirty way. He rammed his cock in my
      mouth. "sorry I'm late" he said in a deep sexy voice. Then Troy came all
      over my chest. Followed by the other teen. I had sperm everywhere. The
      leader scooped it up and forced me to drink it while sucking this tall guys
      cock...who's name was Robert I think...from what I could here from all the loud
      slurping. He fucked my mouth hard.

      "suck my balls your homo" I did as I was told. His purple veins stuck out
      on his huge balls. "ohhh yeah, suck my balls....put my heavy balls in your
      mouth... oh yeah, oh yeah, OH YEAH" then he squirted his cum all over my face
      and body... almost as much as the horses. Then the teen filming us came on
      me. Then the black guy came over to me. "Open your mouth you cum slut". I
      did, and he came in my mouth. "ohh fuck....yeah, yeah suck my white sperm
      down your throat....ohhh man that's good". Then he stopped. But before I
      could get my breath back, he moved his cock to my mouth again "now swallow
      every drop or we'll fucken kill you".....my cock was pulsing with pressure.
      He then pissed in my mouth. I swallowed back the golden liquid...."ohhhh" I
      moaned in pleasure. Once he had finished, and I'd swallowed every drop, he
      leaned over and french kissed me. His big lips felt incredible.

      Troy then opened up container full of milky liquid. The leader took it off
      him "he you go cum slut.....you love cum so much, then drink every drop of
      this" "what is it?" is asked. "cum from a great dame's hot penis and from
      a rotweilers". He tipped it into my waiting mouth, as Troy removed my cock
      ring. I came instantly shooting my cum about 3 metres, hitting the sexy
      twink. Who's name was Matt. "Hey Fuck man, watch it" he said. I drank the
      sweet dog cum. Once it had gone, they loaded me and the cum splattered
      mattress into the wagon. On the way back into town they took me on the long
      trip. I continued to suck off the guys and Matt made me suck his shithole
      clean after he crapped into my jeans. I licked his bubble butt clean, after
      coming hard all over the back of his smooth twink thighs...which I was then
      forced to clean up. They dropped me off at my car.....because Matt had shat
      in my jeans I was wearing Matt's Kahkis which smelt sexy....and I still sniff
      to this day. Infact, my girlfriend wonders where I got them. Just before
      I left Matt pashed me again....and told me if I ever told anyone about this,
      they'd "fucken kill me".

      I went home and took three days off work, masterbating, eating my cum and
      pissing into my mouth. I've never seen those guys again...they must've been
      visiting.

      My girlfriend has incredible sex with me now as I imagine my evening with
      the teen twink fuck sluts.

  2. I'm happy the way it is... by eet23 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ...at least with OmniWeb (and presumably other browsers) where I can set up my own keywords to go to a site rather than relying on someone else's based on what they paid.

    1. Re:I'm happy the way it is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      A year or so ago I tried to register a community web site with RealNames. They made the process way too complex, so I said the heck with it.

      Appears I wasn't the only one.

      --TE

    2. Re:I'm happy the way it is... by forged · · Score: 1

      Good insight, and I fully agree with you here. The concept reminds me of what happened to CueCat, except in their case the `keyword' was a barcode, but the destination was the same: some URL based on who paid what.

    3. Re:I'm happy the way it is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Damn, RealNames had about as good of an idea as a company, that tries to sell something freely available.

      First RealNames, next RedHat, then VA Linux.

      RealNames were hard-core OpenSource - Free (as in speech) Beer kind of folks.
      LInux just lost it's most powerfull ally.

    4. Re:I'm happy the way it is... by siouxmoux · · Score: 1

      HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA PUD will have a Field Day with this one. another Idealab! or CGMI company Bites the Dust!

    5. Re:I'm happy the way it is... by PlaysWithMatches · · Score: 2

      ... at least with OmniWeb (and presumably other browsers) where I can set up my own keywords

      Mozilla has this, too. :) Works quite nicely, especially since I can just type "g something" to search Google, or "jargon something" to look up a word on Jargon File, etc.

      --

      Mozilla's a nice operating system, but it needs a better browser.
  3. CmdrTaco is a flag desecrator and Anti-Delawarian! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    As noted on the Smithsonian Institution's site, the first official American flag had thirteen stars and thirteen stripes, each representing one of the thirteen original states.

    The flag icon for Slashdot's 'United States' section is missing its first stripe - the stripe that represents Delaware, the first state admitted to the Union. While a simple oversight could be forgiven, it should be known from here on out that Slashdot is in fact aware of the missing stripe, and even worse, refuses to do anything about it!

    This vulgar flag desecration and rabid anti-Delawarism must be put to a stop. Let the Slashdot crew know that we will not accept a knowingly mutilated flag or the insinuation that Delawarians deserve to be cut out of the union. I ask you, what has Delaware done to deserve this insolence, this wanton disregard, this bigotry?

    This intentional disregard of a vital national symbol is unpatriotic. Why, the flippant remarks CmdrTaco made about our flag border on terrorism! I urge you to join the protest in each 'United States' story. Sacrifice your karma for your country by pointing out this injustice. Let's all work together to get our flag back. Can you give your country any less?

  4. I just use Google by kalislashdot · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I just use google and hit "Im feeling lucky" and I usally find what I need.

    1. Re:I just use Google by Economist · · Score: 3, Informative

      And if you use Internet Explorer (yeah, let the flames come), you could download the Google Bar, so you should not even go to google itself.

      For the curious: entering cookies in google and hitting i'm lucky directs to http://www.netscape.com/newsref/std/cookie_spec.ht ml

    2. Re:I just use Google by mrjohnson · · Score: 1

      And if you use Galeon (yeah, let the flames come), you don't have to download the Google Bar, it's already in the bookmarks toolbar.

      For the curious: right-click, new tab the google bookmark opens a dialog. Searching on cookies does the same damn thing.

    3. Re:I just use Google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      And if you use moz you could use googlebar.

    4. Re:I just use Google by 56ker · · Score: 2

      The same in Opera too. The reason it comes up with that page is because it has cookies 19 times in the page, in the description of the page etc etc.

    5. Re:I just use Google by mrjohnson · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I know. I don't know why, but I was a little annoyed that "Economist" thought IE was the only browser with Goggle shortcuts....

    6. Re:I just use Google by Brummund · · Score: 2, Informative

      I use the search feature in opera like this:

      Press F2 to get the slim "enter url"-dialog, and then type 'g slashdot' to search Google for slashdot, or 'r xfree86 rgbpath anti-alias debian' to search on groups.google.com.

      The keymappings and which URL they'll send your input to can be configured in ~/.opera/search.ini . If it's missing, copy it from /usr/share/opera.

      This saves both screen space and time :-)

    7. Re:I just use Google by ZippyDahClown · · Score: 1

      Sounds like alot of work to 'save time'

      --
      Where is Anonymous Coward when you need him?
    8. Re:I just use Google by 56ker · · Score: 2

      Most people that PC = computer - doesn't necessarily mean they're right though!

    9. Re:I just use Google by xtremex · · Score: 2

      And if you use Konqueoror (let the flames come)
      you just type:
      gg:cookies

      --
      If you're not a Liberal in your 20's, then you have no heart.If you're still a Liberal in your 30's you have no brain.
    10. Re:I just use Google by PacoTaco · · Score: 1

      And if you use telnet(let the flames come), you just type:
      telnet www.google.com 80
      ...
      etc.

    11. Re:I just use Google by xtremex · · Score: 1

      And if you use links/lynx (let the flames come)
      you can type
      links http://www.google.com/search?q=cookies&sourceid=li nks&num=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

      --
      If you're not a Liberal in your 20's, then you have no heart.If you're still a Liberal in your 30's you have no brain.
    12. Re:I just use Google by alt.sex.fetish.jesus · · Score: 1

      No, you couldn't...the & characters would be interpreted by your shell and you'd have a mess of shit running in the background. ;-)

      Escape the & characters with a \ and you'll be off to the races, however. (I'd suggest lynx over linx anyday, however).

    13. Re:I just use Google by forged · · Score: 2, Funny
      And if you use Netscape Navigator (ok let the flames come),

      ...wait a minute, does anyone out there still uses Netscape ?

    14. Re:I just use Google by forged · · Score: 1
      It's not a big deal compared to the customisation achieved. Just like your .vimrc file:
      • set nocp
        set autoindent
        set nowrap
        set textwidth=75
        set nobackup
    15. Re:I just use Google by cetan · · Score: 2

      http://www.google.com/options/netscape6.html

      That's much more slick in my mind and works great for mozilla.

      --
      In Soviet Russia...michael would be rotting in Siberia!
    16. Re:I just use Google by lpontiac · · Score: 2

      Or just get QuickSearch from the IE Powertoys and configure "g " in the address bar to go to http://google.com/search?q=

    17. Re:I just use Google by frisket · · Score: 2, Informative

      But before Google there was DogPile, and one of their sections (fairly high up) was RealNames...and it returned the stupidest collection of garbage in response to almost anything you typed that it was a total waste of time (and one of the reasons I eventually gave up on DogPile; the other one being About.com).

    18. Re:I just use Google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't use Konqueror because it doesn't seem to support SSL. Oh well. Mozilla works fine though! Konq sucks.

    19. Re:I just use Google by Amit+J.+Patel · · Score: 1

      Also see http://www.google.com/mozilla/google-search.html

      I found the shortcuts to be more useful than the browser buttons.

    20. Re:I just use Google by I+Want+GNU! · · Score: 2

      The Google Bar spies on you. It compiles much more detailed info about your searches than the normal searches.

    21. Re:I just use Google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Even easier in OmniWeb. Go Preferences/Shortcuts, then enter "g@" under "Shortcut" and "http://www.google.com/search?q=%@" under "Destination URL". Easily extended to Google groups, eBay, Yahoo yellowpages, etc. Good stuff; I would be lost without it.

    22. Re:I just use Google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't use Konqueror because it doesn't seem to support SSL. Oh well. Mozilla works fine though! Konq sucks.

      Konqueror supports SSL perfectly. Did you set it up?

      Best of all, it doesn't require the 512MB of core that the flaming pile of shit known as mozilla does. And it didn't take 5 years and counting to reach a usable point.

      Quick quiz moz users: How many times have you touched XUL? Never? Good thing they spent 3 years on it. Losers

  5. FP!!! YOU_SUCK_ASS BIG_ASS_SPORK!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Its true..

  6. Good by ViXX0r · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I mean, I feel sorry for the employees of another failing dotcom company, but really - I thought this was a dumb idea in the first place. If you need a plugin to remember how to get to your favorite web sites, then get off the 'net.

    Hopefully they'll find something else to do that's actually useful.

    --
    University - a box of academia nuts.
    1. Re:Good by dmomo · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Actually, if this WERE to be common, and I were to use it, when I type in "Cookies", I am looking for information on cookies. I am not looking for a specific brand. If I WANTED nabisco cookies, I would have typed in "nabisco". I want general info on cookies. This is not useful, it is marketing.


      So, what would I do? I would go to Google and type in cookies there. That's it.

    2. Re:Good by raju1kabir · · Score: 3, Funny

      Honestly, it couldn't have happened to a stupider pack of schmucks. The business model was straight off an insane asylum rec-room wall, and their shrill arguments in its support made them (at least any of them who dared show their virtual faces in public) sound like they were holding first class tickets to Jonestown, for all the irrational yet fervent defensiveness they spurted out.

      Add to that, of course, that their company's sole goal was to make money off the forced Balkanization of the internet. Sort of an online Slobodan Milosevic.

      This news truly makes my week. Beers are on me tonight. Nobody at the bar will know what the hell I'm talking about, but that's probably for the better.

      --
      "Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it." -- GBS
    3. Re:Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Now come on guys, this had it's uses. Well lets see. It could, no that was stupid. ahhh.. no that was stupid too..

      Well I guess I was wrong it was a stupid ideal.

    4. Re:Good by gewalker · · Score: 1

      Yes, Microsoft is doing a good thing by cutting RealNames off. Maybe people using this will discover the Google is the search engine they should be using instead of RealNames (or MS, or any of the rest of those marketing based "search engines" posing as a regular search engine.

      Now, not to say that MS actively decided to do something nice or anything. They only have about 30 years practice being evil, and they are bound to slip up occasionally. Even Hitler liked dogs and kids (I have an acquaintence who remembers visiting Hitler on vacation when she was young quite fondly. She does not seem to understand why he was so disliked.)

    5. Re:Good by eugene+ts+wong · · Score: 3, Funny

      I'm going to miss them quite a lot. I used to type in, "MyFavouritePlaceToTrollOnTheInternetForNerds", instead of just clicking on a bookmark on my personal bar, and then I'd arrive at "www.slashdot.org".

      ;^p

    6. Re:Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually you don't need a plugin with RealNames. Its built in - Like Flash is. Just type a Keyword in the browser and it works. They also have a cool directory service. Type "Lookup ?" where ? is anything. Or "Lookup cc ?" where cc is an iso country code.

    7. Re:Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Your troll status is : Wanna - be

      Troll Status Generator 2.3xc

    8. Re:Good by anthony_dipierro · · Score: 2

      Its really not a big deal to remember the major web destinations (alot easier than phone numbers which people routinely remember).

      I almost never use urls any more. I just use google, and remember the keyword. Why bother remembering http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/ when you can just type "copyright law" into google? Why remember http://www.harmonycentral.com/Guitar/tab.html when I can type "olga" into google? Realnames is a good idea, they just didn't have a business model which made sense.

    9. Re:Good by sheean.nl · · Score: 1

      Yes, Microsoft is doing a good thing by cutting RealNames off.

      They did, but maybe we'll soon hear: Microsoft have started a brand new and unique service for .NET, RealNames.net!.

      --

      If at first you don't succeed, then sky diving definitely isn't for you.
    10. Re:Good by SmileyBen · · Score: 2

      Erm no - no need - they already have. If you type a word into (spit) IE6 it redirects you to msn search for the terms. *Really* annoying when you just misspelt something, and it doesn't give you a chance to correct it, destroying the URL. And worse, on many machines it seems to freeze up for AGES before deciding this is what it's going to do.

      So yeah, they just need to see the MSN search space - nothing more complex than that.

    11. Re:Good by Spoing · · Score: 2
      So, what would I do? I would go to Google and type in cookies there. That's it.

      Mozilla/NS6.2+ almost has this;

      Click in Location field.

      Type in cookies.

      Below the Location field, this string appears;

      1. Search Google for "Cookies"

      Press down arrow and press enter to search.

      (Q. Is the default Google now, or still Netscape's search? It's been so long.)

      Personally I like the default behavior; typing in cookies sends you to "cookies.com". If it used a search engine instead, you'd have to click another link to get to the site you wanted...or you'd have to type the whole URL (no biggie, but why bother?).

      --
      A firewall can not protect you from yourself. Turn off what you do not need. Do not use the firewall to do your work.
    12. Re:Good by Spoing · · Score: 2
      If you type a word into (spit) IE6 it redirects you to msn search for the terms. *Really* annoying when you just misspelt something, and it doesn't give you a chance to correct it, destroying the URL.

      Does IE6 give you an option to change the search engine it points to? (I don't use Windows, so I'm curious.)

      --
      A firewall can not protect you from yourself. Turn off what you do not need. Do not use the firewall to do your work.
    13. Re:Good by SmileyBen · · Score: 1

      I don't use Windows either. But no, I don't think it does.

    14. Re:Good by jedrek · · Score: 2

      Mozilla/NS6.2+ also has this: Keywords for your bookmarks, including keywords that take a parameter. I use 'g whatever i'm looking for on google' and 'ng whatever i'm looking for on google groups' or 'imdb star wars' etc etc all the time.

      I found a great write up of it here.

    15. Re:Good by n9hmg · · Score: 1
      Internet options>"Advanced" tab>scroll to "Search from the address bar" radio button set, choose "Do not search from the address bar".

      Note: Mine had been set back to "Just go to the most likely site".... I wonder which windows update did that.(yeah, yeah... I'm using my daughter's win2k box because I bought her a better monitor than mine)

  7. My Realname is now worthless... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    I bought the Realname "Goatsex" years ago to help people find MY goatsex site. Now, how will they differentiate between it and all the other goatsex sites out there? Google doesn't help, since so many other goatsex sites spam themselves here and boost their link relevancy. :(

    1. Re:My Realname is now worthless... by daviddennis · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      What does the content of goatse.cx have to do with goatsex, anyway? I mean, I go there looking forward to seeing a novel form of kinky sex, and all I see is a very boring, all too well known form of kinky sex.

      Pathetic.

      D

    2. Re:My Realname is now worthless... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Looks to me like lots of goats were involved.

  8. I didn't even know this was possible... by bc90021 · · Score: 2, Informative

    I've been using computers for twenty years, and Windows since 3.0, but I didn't even know it was possible to just type keywords into the IE address bar... I wonder how many people out there did?

    Granted, I use Netscape a lot more now, but still...

    1. Re:I didn't even know this was possible... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Netscape used to "guess" at what you were looking for by adding a www. and a .com to whatever word. Made those keywords more valuable. Not sure what it does now, though.

      Hrm, I just typed "dogs" into Mozilla's address bar and it took me to Petsmart, so I guess something is going on there.

    2. Re:I didn't even know this was possible... by cscx · · Score: 2, Informative

      In IE,

      Go to Search -> Customize -> Autosearch settings, and you can choose there what you want the behavior of the Address Bar to be.

    3. Re:I didn't even know this was possible... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Try www.dogs.com it redirects. Im guessing its adding www and com around it.. and petsmart just owns it

    4. Re:I didn't even know this was possible... by Ron+Bennett · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I get about 200 hits per month through via a keyword - it's a trademarked madeup word. Many people I suspect simply forget the .com part and then after seeing they're still being routed properly to our site due to RealNames, they use it more and tell others. So in this regard, keywords do have some value in regards to convenience.

      But as far as driving traffic, etc...keywords are generally a poor way to do it...keywords don't work the same everywhere...for example AOL keywords and RealNames don't correspond with each other...if RealNames had any sense, they should have gotten AOL aboard - perhaps they tried...but in any event, keywords lacked consistency and thus most companies, etc simply stayed with internet domain names - they're familiar to people, consistent for the most part, and much less expensive since RealNames also charged surcharges for high volume sites.

      So all in all, I'm glad to see RealNames fail...and it serves VeriSign right too - they're about the worst company on the face of the planet...heck, look at what they did to two decent services GreatDomains and Registrars.com after they acquired them...but I digress...

    5. Re:I didn't even know this was possible... by raju1kabir · · Score: 2
      I get about 200 hits per month through via a keyword - it's a trademarked madeup word. Many people I suspect simply forget the .com part and then after seeing they're still being routed properly to our site due to RealNames, they use it more and tell others. So in this regard, keywords do have some value in regards to convenience.

      But most browsers would do the same thing anyway - fire up a non-Realnames-enabled browser and type in your made-up word without the .com on the end. Presto, it adds the http://www.\1.com/ on its own.

      --
      "Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it." -- GBS
    6. Re:I didn't even know this was possible... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is actually an option in moz(tunred off by default):
      http://www.mozilla.org/docs/end-user/in ternet-keyw ords.html

    7. Re:I didn't even know this was possible... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think he means they typed in something like "weedwacker" and were taken to www.toro.com.

  9. 100 million dollars?!?! by sanermind · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Good god. $100,000,000 invested in the buisness plan of a company that produces absolutely nothing, the only possible appeal of which would be to allow the redirection of someone on a particular browser platform (who is too stupid to understand .com or use a search engine) to your site, for which you would pay them up to 500 a year.

    Unbelievable. Thank reason that's all behind us.

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    the pen is mightier than the sword, the sword is mightier than the court, the court is mightier than the pen.
    1. Re:100 million dollars?!?! by lawrenz · · Score: 1

      i used to work next door to these people, someone that worked there drove a ferrari modena. ha.

    2. Re:100 million dollars?!?! by jo42 · · Score: 1
      $100,000,000

      Fork! D00D, that $100 Very Large could have been put to lots of good use outside of this truly stupid idea...

    3. Re:100 million dollars?!?! by shess · · Score: 1

      Hash tables are cool. I can completely see spending 9 figures on one. [Hey, if anyone else out there wants to buy a neat data structure for millions of dollars, let me know and I'll whip up a tree for you...]

  10. Stupid Idea by RTFA+Man · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Stupid investors. End of story. Kiss that $100M goodbye.

    1. Re:Stupid Idea by dada21 · · Score: 2

      That money's not all gone -- most of it probably went to the upper echelon investors, people who have invested in the home industry (buying their $5 million houses), the hobbiest airline industry, the expensive car industry, and whatever is left was probably reinvested back into the stock market in companies that hopefully could use the money to benefit us all.

      Even a failure can trickle down to helping others who didn't have a foot in the door in a bad idea that duped a lot of investors...

      (The free market at work. Even the rich help the poor).

    2. Re:Stupid Idea by You're+All+Wrong · · Score: 1

      The only way that dotcom tossers buying ferraris helps the poor is
      1) a) if lots of tax was paid
      and
      b) the tax system supports the poor
      or
      2) They crash straight into another dotcom tosser driving a SUV, and wipe each other out, and their wallets go flying into the air and scatter dolalr bills all over a nearby slum.

      Alas 1b) ain't likely in the US, so looks like we gotta wait for 2)...

      YAWIAR
      (tosser = perjorative for 'one who pleasures himself', if it's not known west of the pond)

      --
      Your head of state is a corrupt weasel, I hope you're happy.
  11. I wonder why. by qslack · · Score: 2

    Ignoring the stupidity of their entire business strategy, it's no surprise that they went over.

    The article says they had 80 employees. 80! I would say that at max, they'd need a few sales people, a few programmers, a designer, a tech support person, management, and a receptionist. That's 20 people at most. Instead, they've got 80 people.

    I bet that half of their employees are browsing Slashdot all day. :)

    1. Re:I wonder why. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I bet that half of their employees are browsing Slashdot all day. :)


      Psheah, not any more! :'(

    2. Re:I wonder why. by stefanlasiewski · · Score: 1

      I bet that half of their employees are browsing Slashdot all day.

      And now they're browsing fuckedcompany.com

      --
      "Can of worms? The can is open... the worms are everywhere."
    3. Re:I wonder why. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I bet that half of their employees are browsing Slashdot all day. :)

      You aren't half wrong. I actually read about this issue on slashdot, just before they walked me out. Sucks big time, but you can't say I wasn't warned - the offsite meetings of senior staff were just too much to overlook.

      -- Dr. Tse Goa, Ph.D. Director, Business Development, RealNames Inc. tse@realnames.com [now expired]

  12. In the words of Nelson from the Simpsons by DarkHelmet · · Score: 2, Funny

    HA HA!

    --
    /^[A-Z0-9._%+-]+@[A-Z0-9.-]+\.[A-Z]{2,4}$/i
  13. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  14. Their idea was nothing new... by PepsiProgrammer · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Any one ever heard of 'AOL keywords' same concept, Something like this needs to happen, but it needs to be standardized

    --
    "The United States has no right, no desire, and no intention to impose our form of government on anyone else." - Bush 05
    1. Re:Their idea was nothing new... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It has been. They're called domain names. They're supposed to make remembering hosts easier by not having to remember the numeric IP address. It's just some people have abused this system or used it incorrectly resulting in a less valuable resource for all.

    2. Re:Their idea was nothing new... by kteare · · Score: 1

      Domain names can only name hosts. Keywords can name resources - as granular as a single result from a database query, a single page, even a sentance in a page. Naming is for resources. When the dns was invented hosts were the most granular resource, later people [email addresses]. But now its way more granular than that. Search Engines even don't cut it because many resources cannot be indexed as they are not live/static.

    3. Re:Their idea was nothing new... by I+Want+GNU! · · Score: 2
      It's just some people have abused this system or used it incorrectly resulting in a less valuable resource for all.
      If you don't mind me asking, how does this make it any less useful for us all? You can just Google search and find whatever official site you want, or use the direct domain names themselves. That seems pretty straightforward to me, and it works to find any site.
  15. IE's Address Bar by cscx · · Score: 1

    Looks like Microsoft beat these morons to the punch on this one (and probably Netscape before so). Just like Netscape used to redirect non-sites to Netcenter Search, IE by default sends queries to MSN Search---but in IE's prefrences, that is configurable; for example, I have mine set to Google.

    This software sounds like something that would have to be installed covertly. I'll stick with IE's feature, thanks.

    What if I like Keebler better than Nabisco?

    1. Re:IE's Address Bar by Skwidd · · Score: 1

      What if I like Keebler better than Nabisco?

      I'm only vaguely familiar with their service, but I recall that their service permitted more than one owner per "keyword". I'd provide a link right here, but that "feature" of their website is unavailable at the moment.

      They used to have an arrangement with the Altavista search engine, and it really just worked like a limited search service.

    2. Re:IE's Address Bar by Servo5678 · · Score: 1
      but in IE's prefrences, that is configurable; for example, I have mine set to Google

      Where is this option? Care to enlighten a fellow /.er? Thanks!

    3. Re:IE's Address Bar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      WAKE UP!!!

      Keebler is owned by NABISCO!!!!!

    4. Re:IE's Address Bar by oni · · Score: 2

      Take head my son, Google itself holds the answer to this and many questions.

      I'm seriously considering founding a religion based around google.

      btw, rather than screw with registry settings to make IE conform, may I suggest you use Opera. It comes pre-configured to search google and many others. I use Opera with Javascript etc. turned off and only load IE when I find a page the requires that stuff. That system seems to work well.

    5. Re:IE's Address Bar by DeionXxX · · Score: 1

      Click Search (On the IE Toolbar), Click Change Preferences, Click Change Internet Search behavior, Pick one of the 10 Search Engines available.

      -- Enjoy
      D3X

    6. Re:IE's Address Bar by Servo5678 · · Score: 1

      Thanks! I appreciate the help!

  16. Because of google? by fleeb_fantastique · · Score: 2

    I wonder if this is happening because of google.

    After all, in IE, you may use google's taskbar to provide a keyword-search right there on your browser. And in Mozilla, you have the sidebar with google enabled. So why bother using 'keywords' to search for stuff when you have something much more stable in google?

    In any event, they probably shouldn't have tried to put so many eggs in the Microsoft basket. Yet, I'm unsure they would have had much choice... where else could they have gone?

    Hmm.. and Microsoft wishes to convince folks that a monopoly such as theirs is a *good* thing?

    --
    And so it goes.
  17. Yup, they're fucked. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    In other news, no one gives a flying fuck about some stupid .not company. When did slashdot turn into Fucked Company?

  18. Festival of giant crap festival! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Suck it, Trebek!

  19. How long til M$ offers their own version of this? by bc90021 · · Score: 1

    And how much time will elapse before RealNames has brought another anti-trust suit...? ;)

    Why would Micro$oft cancel the contract? Do they not need redirection based on keywords anymore? Or did the programmer they keep in the basement all of a sudden figure out how to make IE redirect based on keywords without RealNames?

  20. Why Microsoft hurts free markets by b.foster · · Score: 1, Troll
    Everybody knows that Microsoft practices monopoly pricing practices and hurts consumers in the process. After all, who wouldn't expect them to skew the software market in their favor if they do wield the power to do so? Any company would do the same thing, and it's no surprise that BillG and friends take advantage of their unique position at the top of the food chain to gouge customers.

    However, there is a second, more subtle effect to Microsoft's dominance of the PC software industry: they have the power and funding they need to prop up unprofitable ventures that serve only to increase their stranglehold over PC consumers. Take the RealNames scenario, for instance: Microsoft was able to compete with the Internic registry[1] only because they could afford to bleed money for several years without hurting. In this case, the market prevailed and RealNames collapsed. However, this isn't always the case. Take a look at Internet Explorer: for many years it was inferior to Netscape's offering, and only recently has Mozilla again surpassed it in speed and usability. IE never made a single red cent for Microsoft, but their monopoly position and cash reserves were used to force it down users' throats. And that, my friends, is why Microsoft endangers the entire software industry and desperately needs increased government oversight. Judge Jackson ruined our first chance to fight back, but hopefully the DoJ will not give up that easily.

    [1] I am not endorsing ICANN or their corporatist interests, but their system is clearly superior to RealNames' undemocratic process.

    1. Re:Why Microsoft hurts free markets by sheldon · · Score: 2

      Thank you! When I opened up this news story I was worried for a minute that I didn't see any sterotypical anti-MS attacks.

      Thank you for not allowing me to be disappointed.

    2. Re:Why Microsoft hurts free markets by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We love you with big machine and white stuff come shooting out of your nostrils when we turn on, how come, no brain, huh? re: eat bannnana

    3. Re:Why Microsoft hurts free markets by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, thank *you*- when I opened up this news story, I was worried that I might not see somebody abusing their +1 bonus to make a fucking boilerplate statement about "stereotypical anti-MS attacks".

      Yeah, poo widdoo Microsoft, how can they ever catch a break with big bad Slashdot readers always beating up on them.

      What do you even call this off-topic Slashdot-isn't-objective junk? Is it supposed to be a troll? Flamebait? Dada comedy? Or are you just in it for the money?

  21. From the article... by reparteeist · · Score: 1
    "For instance, IE users who type "RealNames" into their address bars are automatically taken to RealNames' Web site at www.realnames.com."

    That is pure genius. Next thing you know we will have the ability to visit webpages by typing in a "URL" into the address bar.

    --
    If Bill Gates had a nickel for every time Windows crashed... Oh wait, he does.
    1. Re:From the article... by cscx · · Score: 1

      In IE, if you type RealNames into the address bar, then hit Ctrl-Enter, it automatically attaches a http://www. before and a .com/ after. This company had some pure geniuses working for them, I tell you.

  22. Hmm... by benthesinister · · Score: 1

    Aww...does this mean I actually have to type in www.farmlove.com now?

  23. Offtopic? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Let's see, this is talking about RealNames' largest investor and how companies like RealNames hurt the industry, and it's marked Offtopic? Mods on crack...

    1. Re:Offtopic? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      You can't expect them to read everything they moderate! That'd be much more work than simply clicking the button. Waaay too hard.

    2. Re:Offtopic? by foobar104 · · Score: 2

      Let's see, this is talking about RealNames' largest investor and how companies like RealNames hurt the industry, and it's marked Offtopic? Mods on crack...

      Actually, it seems to me that it's a moderator's rejection of the late trend that everything on Slashdot is about how bad Microsoft is.

      I tried to find a recent article that had no comments above 0 about how Microsoft is bad, but I came up with nothing.

    3. Re:Offtopic? by raju1kabir · · Score: 2
      Actually, it seems to me that it's a moderator's rejection of the late trend that everything on Slashdot is about how bad Microsoft is. I tried to find a recent article that had no comments above 0 about how Microsoft is bad, but I came up with nothing.
      1. It's not a late trend. It's been going on as long as I've been reading slashdot (which is longer than my ID# would have you believe).

      2. Microsoft is bad.

      --
      "Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it." -- GBS
  24. Some people are getting their asses burned now by Vspirit · · Score: 2, Insightful

    In Danish papers not long ago, it was reported that the the company and its partners had oversold their service to danish municipalities, which received lots of negative coverage.

    The people at the company defended themselves, saying their service provided great value, and the municipality officials said they were confident about their purchases.

    With this shit, some people are getting their asses burned.. and a lot of people will say "I told you so".

    What now? will all the current customers lose their services or will Microsoft take over business?

    my comment: HA HA.. damn I hate you sploiters!!!

  25. Embrace... by PhotoGuy · · Score: 2

    So let me guess, Microsoft is deciding to "embrace and replace", errr, I mean, "embrace and entend" and do this this themselves. Yet another competitor/partner made redundant by the monolith. Sigh.

    --
    Love many, trust a few, do harm to none.
  26. Whatever happened to the ORIGINAL RealNames?! by eples · · Score: 2


    MY question is, whatever happened to the ORIGINAL RealNames? Once upon a time it was basically a search engine to find corporations' websites. For example: the large, national "Dick's Sporting Goods" is *not* at "dicks.com", it's at "dickssportinggoods.com". Once upon a time, RealNames woulda told you that - and most any other company you wanted to find.

    --
    I'm a 2000 man.
    1. Re:Whatever happened to the ORIGINAL RealNames?! by foobar104 · · Score: 2

      For example: the large, national "Dick's Sporting Goods" is *not* at "dicks.com", it's at "dickssportinggoods.com".

      Pretty unpleasant mistake to make, that.

      It reminds me of a story I heard from a good friend. Back in the early 90's his mother was just getting into this "Internet" thing. She had some kind of business related to selling kids' toys. There's a brand of kids' toys called "Little Tykes," and she wanted to find their web site.

      What did she do? She went to altavista.digital.com (remember that?) and typed "little tykes." She was unpleasantly surprised at the results.

      Of course, this was in the days BG-- before Google. Right now, Google returns several pages of kid-related material when given the phrase "little tykes," and not a bit of kiddie porn.

      Sort of a bittersweet moment, actually.

    2. Re:Whatever happened to the ORIGINAL RealNames?! by Tralfamadorian · · Score: 1

      For example: the large, national "Dick's Sporting Goods" is *not* at "dicks.com", it's at "dickssportinggoods.com".

      LOL, I actually made that mistake, and realized my error *just* after hitting the enter key!

    3. Re:Whatever happened to the ORIGINAL RealNames?! by kteare · · Score: 1

      We are still out there. Try "lookup ?" in your browser where ? is anything. Or "Lookup cc ?" where cc is an iso country code. This will go away on 6/30.

  27. Speaking of domain names by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    I just got a scam letter from Verisign that said my domain was about to expire this month and that I should send them my credit card number to make everything ok.

    Funny thing is, I registered with Tucows, not Verisign. And, my domain doesn't expire until 2003. At the back of this "DOMAIN EXPIRATION NOTICE", there was a block of tiny little print that gave the scam away.

    I'd expect this kind of crap from some fly-by night scumbag operation that operated from some hole in the wall. But Verisign? How in the hell did these dirtbags get the keys to the domain name system?

    1. Re:Speaking of domain names by foobar104 · · Score: 2

      At the back of this "DOMAIN EXPIRATION NOTICE", there was a block of tiny little print that gave the scam away.

      Just out of curiosity, what did the tiny little print say? Was it "THIS IS A SCAM" or something?

      (On an entirely different subject, "Slow down, Cowboy" is really getting on by nerves. I don't have a better suggestion, but Slashcode seems to take particular pleasure from punishing those of us who know what we wanna say and type fast. Of course, it's even worse when I post from the office (gasp!) with IE on Windows. Once you hit the "submit" button, your post is gone, gone, gone. If you get a "slow down cowboy" or other error, the "back" button is suicide. Okay, that killed about enough time I suppose.)

    2. Re:Speaking of domain names by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It said if you followed the instructions on the other side of the paper, your domain would be transferred to verisign, and you would be bound to terms and conditions that were at some urls they listed.

  28. Betting on Microsoft as a partner by Vspirit · · Score: 1

    RealNames had an icky business, but nevertheless what this also goes to show, is that bedding with Microsoft is a dangerous game.

    Never base your business on another business like Microsoft. You'll be enslaved.

  29. yaargh by Iamthefallen · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yes I am probably being a bit picky, but seriously, using M$ instead of MS is getting really old. If M$ is to be the way we spell it then I suggest spelling Linux as [h4h4h4, I pwnz0r j00 suxxz0rz!1!1!]
    *BSD should be: [j00 st00pid "h4h4h4, I pwnz0r j00 suxxz0rz!1!1!" n00bs! we pwn j00 4ll!!!11!111!!1!1]
    This way it will be more consistent and easier to understand just which company or OS someone is referring to, thank you for your cooperation

    --
    Wax-Museum Fire Results In Hundreds Of New Danny DeVito Statues
    1. Re:yaargh by 56ker · · Score: 2

      So you don't mind if we refer to Microsoft as the evil empire, a convicted monopolist or any other derogatory but true term as long as it's correctly spelt? So what new term are you going to coin to replace M$ then? Personally I think it's a very good way of summing up their corporate strategy. ;o)

    2. Re:yaargh by Foogle · · Score: 1

      "Evil Empire" is derogatory but true? And, let's be honest -- ANY corporate strategy involves making as much money as possible. Should we put a $ in every company's name? Get a life.

    3. Re:yaargh by 56ker · · Score: 2

      If you read that seriously it's you who should get a life. Some company's have morals, some respect the law, some realise that making money in the short term isn't necessarily linked to long-term growth. "Any coporate stragegy involved making as much money as possible" - oh so Enron and all the other companies that go bust were doing that were they? There are plenty of businesses run just because the person likes what they're doing and not because they're purely interested in profits!

    4. Re:yaargh by baywulf · · Score: 1

      But you $ee the "e$$" key on my keyboard is $tuck which i$ why you $ee me typing M$. No need to get huffy about it.

    5. Re:yaargh by _Sprocket_ · · Score: 2


      "Evil Empire" is derogatory but true? And, let's be honest -- ANY corporate strategy involves making as much money as possible.


      Profit is the motive of many businesses, especially if they are publicly held. There are hundreds if not thousands of publicly held corporations in the United States. Yet with all this business and profit going on... Microsoft is one of the few corporations convicted of anti-trust violations.


      Profit does not excuse any and all conduct. It does not override law. And it does not shield a company of moral judgement.

    6. Re:yaargh by Malcontent · · Score: 2

      Although one could make a compelling argument that making as much money as possible is indeed evil (certainly evil as defined by Jesus) I don't think that is what is argued here. Condeming capitalism as an evil pursuit in order to excuse the behaviour of M$ is a novel argument and I congratulate you on your originality but your argument falls short on several accounts.

      1) Although all corporations pursue money not all of them are run by evil persons like M$ is.
      2) Most corporations try very hard to obey the laws of the united states whereas M$ has repeatedly and willfully broken them.
      3) No corporation has 40 billion in cash reserves so the degree of capital aggregation (and therefore evilness in your definition) is immense. An analogy might be to say that both lying and gonocide are sins but we are able to make moral distinctions between liers and murderers. So therefore not everybody gets the $ just M$.

      BTW? Why do M$ trolls find it so offensive? I would think they would be proud to have their company be associated with it's cash horde.

      --

      War is necrophilia.

    7. Re:yaargh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      how about Microshit ?

    8. Re:yaargh by spectecjr · · Score: 2

      So you don't mind if we refer to Microsoft as the evil empire, a convicted monopolist or any other derogatory but true term as long as it's correctly spelt? So what new term are you going to coin to replace M$ then? Personally I think it's a very good way of summing up their corporate strategy. ;o)

      That may well be the case. But it was old when it was Compu$erve getting the '$ in the name' treatment, and it's still old now.

      --
      Coming soon - pyrogyra
    9. Re:yaargh by 56ker · · Score: 2

      The first time I've seen Compuserve written like that is by you - mind you I don't often see the word Compuserve at all!

    10. Re:yaargh by spectecjr · · Score: 1

      The first time I've seen Compuserve written like that is by you - mind you I don't often see the word Compuserve at all!

      Well, it was really common in the late 80s, early 90s. *grins*

      Si

      --
      Coming soon - pyrogyra
    11. Re:yaargh by Spoing · · Score: 2
      The first time I've seen Compuserve written like that is by you - mind you I don't often see the word Compuserve at all!

      I remember Compuserve was often referred to as Compu$erve -- when it was the dominate losed online service~ . They and AOL made insane amounts of money off of some people. Often hundreads and sometimes thousands a month.

      So, calling the $ as in M$ old is right on target. It's accurate, but still old.

      ~. Before Internet became what people refer to as online.

      --
      A firewall can not protect you from yourself. Turn off what you do not need. Do not use the firewall to do your work.
    12. Re:yaargh by 56ker · · Score: 2

      Well seeing as I was born in 1980 and lived in the U.K. that'll be why!

    13. Re:yaargh by Oliver+Defacszio · · Score: 1
      There are plenty of businesses run just because the person likes what they're doing and not because they're purely interested in profits!

      Name one successful one. No, Uncle Fred's Shoe Repair doesn't count; I mean one that is actually successful on a real scale and yet isn't in it for the money.

      Take your time.

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      -
      Inventor of the term 'pardon my French'.
    14. Re:yaargh by Oliver+Defacszio · · Score: 1
      Oh, if this isn't the quintessential Linux-zealot-talking-out-of-his-ass post, I don't know what is.

      Microsoft is suddenly run by "evil persons", is it? You don't know jack about anyone at the top of Microsoft other than what CNN feeds you and yet, suddenly, you're able to make character judgements and actually use such subjective garbage in point form to rebut (and, in your case, that term is used very loosely) someone else's assertions? Have you ever debated anything before?

      And, "most corporations try very hard to obey the laws of the united states" is also pure crap. Any business that can make an extra two bucks by stomping all over the laws of any country will do so without a second of hesitation. In fact (and I don't mean to alarm your soft little mind), it's probably going on right this second. I'll bet that Red Hat does it daily. Ooooooh!

      Wake up, fanboy. You're embarassing yourself.

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      -
      Inventor of the term 'pardon my French'.
    15. Re:yaargh by 56ker · · Score: 2

      If you're going to be awkward like that - government. Generally people only work for them because they want to and they're not purely driven by making a profit!

    16. Re:yaargh by Oliver+Defacszio · · Score: 1

      So, in other words, there aren't any.

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      Inventor of the term 'pardon my French'.
    17. Re:yaargh by spectecjr · · Score: 1

      Well seeing as I was born in 1980 and lived in the U.K. that'll be why!

      I was born in 1975 in the UK, and stayed there until 1997. Then I moved to the US :)

      --
      Coming soon - pyrogyra
  30. FC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    All of a sudden Slashdot turned into FuckedCompany.

  31. what?! by NotAnotherReboot · · Score: 3, Funny

    how the hell do I get to nabisco's site now?

    1. Re:what?! by WolfWithoutAClause · · Score: 2
      You can't. That's what's so annoying. As a result of this decision, the entire internet has basically died; I won't even be able to get to google without RealNames to help me find it.

      Good job I bookmarked slashdot really. What are we going to do? How can we survive this terrible decision by the software company of the beast? ;-)

      --

      -WolfWithoutAClause

      "Gravity is only a theory, not a fact!"
  32. uhm by papasui · · Score: 1

    Couldn't you just setup an alias in the Windows host file that would do the exact same thing. Christ, for 3 minutes you could have an application that could do this.

  33. misguided by tps12 · · Score: 2, Interesting
    The whole thing was doomed to failure. Look back at the original plans of Arpanet (the precursor to the Internet, documents available at the Library of Congress). URLs were never meant to be easy to remember. They are a technical device intended to allow addresses to reflect physical network layouts more intuitively than do IP addresses.

    Of course, these have been abused since the web took off. A great example is slashdot: apple.slashdot.org is not necessarily a different machine than bsd.slashdot.org, and either one or both may be multiple machines in RL.

    URLs are not targetted at end-users, who should be dealing with bookmarks and search engines to access business names.

    Basically, RealNames was a kluge that won't be missed; good riddance, I say.

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  34. Sounds like another M$ ploy by Nitroshock · · Score: 1

    The reason for the closure appears to be the decision by M$ to NOT renew their agreement with RealNames which expires in June

    Sounds like another Microsoft ploy to me. M$ likes to keep a tight leash on stupid users, part of what makes the company so successful. Since there are options in IE to do similar feats, why not kill the companies you can, and reap the rewards yourself?

  35. Where 'cookies' really takes you... by manly_15 · · Score: 1

    Type in 'cookies' in IE and it takes you here. If more keyword searches would take you to non-commercial sites like this one, maybe people would actually end up using them more often.

    1. Re:Where 'cookies' really takes you... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > If more keyword searches would take you to non-commercial sites like this one,

      Didn't you realise that it only takes you to sites that have _paid_ for the keyword.

      And this is probably why MS have 'discontinued' the agreement. Now that RealNames has pioneered the techniques, taken the risk and showed whether it can generate revenue, MS wants to eliminate them from the market and take it over for themselves.

      IE will just operate on the keyword itself and not pass it any plug-in.

    2. Re:Where 'cookies' really takes you... by xtremex · · Score: 2

      I typed in cookies in Opera of FreeBSD and it took me to
      clevercookies.com.
      Hm....does opera use realnames?

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    3. Re:Where 'cookies' really takes you... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://www.cookies.com redirects to http://www.clevercookie.com. All Opera does is fill in the www and .com

  36. Good by darnellmc · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'm glad they are gone. Many names could not be purchased and their fee structure sucked - IMHO.

    And to top it off they could not protect their customer database and compromised every one of their customer's credit cards.

    I never actually used their service, but made inquiries in the past, for names that I found they would let no one purchase. Some common terms could not be purchased. Even inquiries required giving them a credit card number. And eventhough I never signed up, there was no way to remove my card from their database afterward. I did not know they kept it stored and when they were hacked I had to get a new card number FAST.

    I hope no such service is ever made again!

  37. MakeAShoterLink still going strong though! by FyRE666 · · Score: 1

    I always though that this site was a truly inspired idea! For anyone who hasn't been there, you just put some godawful long URL in there, and it translates it to a reasonably small URL (the URL actually goes to their server, then is redirected to the real site after a couple of seconds). No adverts, simple to use, works great!

    (No, I don't have anything to do with running the site :-)

    1. Re:MakeAShoterLink still going strong though! by ActiveSX · · Score: 1

      Egads, you think they could use it on their own url!

  38. Pay for searching and nothing else. by gad_zuki! · · Score: 2

    This is the ultimate in paid-for searching and I'm glad this psuedo-search is going off the air. While google remains free and doesn't change its search results for advertising money, this corporate handshaking is simply obselete and consumers are better off without it.

    Nice of the editors to get in an MS jab for not supporting a bad business plan. Not to mention plain names like 'cookies' shouldnt resolve to web sites if theres a server or pc on your network called cookies.

  39. I am sure they cancelled because it wasnt working by Edmund+Blackadder · · Score: 2

    MS not only had an agreement to use realnames they had a put a lot of capital in that company.

    When they realized it wasnt gaining market share they decided to get out.

  40. You'd be surprised by 00_NOP · · Score: 1

    I suppose, because we've all got as far as /., we're all pretty experienced net users. But not everyone out there is and the idea behind this company doesn't seem too dumb.

    (Though obviously it doesn't work.)

    I well remember being told by someone that my web site didn't exist because when they typed in the url they got nothing back.

    On closer examination it turned out they were typing the url into yahoo. They knew nothing else about the web (they were an important UK journalist) and presumably sombody had just made yahoo their home page left them to it.

    In that sort of world, somebody doing the searching for them might have worked.

    1. Re:You'd be surprised by eugene+ts+wong · · Score: 2

      I agree. Typing in "French Tutorial" and going to a specific site might prove useful for people wanting to limit results. In schools, you don't want kids wasting time on the Internet searching for the site that you asked them to find. Not everybody has a creative short name for their url.

      This way, you don't need one, if the audience is limited. It could also be seen as a semi-equivalent command line interface to make use of bookmarks. It may actually be easier to type "Fr tutor", short for "French Tutorial", instead of going through countless folders and such to search for your bookmarks.

      As long as everybody is aware of its strengths and limitations, then this tool is of value to those who can use it.

  41. In other news.... by PepsiProgrammer · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    RealNames changes name to FakeNames and releases new adware software to screw with DNS entries

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  42. Good - One less IE-specific feature on the net by DunbarTheInept · · Score: 2

    This is a good thing. Not only did the business provide little if any value (Memorizing keywords to get to sites? That's what hostnames *are*!), but it was attempting to make a new namespace that would only be visible to IE users. I'm very glad it didn't catch on. If it did, we might have started seeing sites that didn't bother registering names in the DNS standard way and instead just mapped their IP addresses to this goofy scheme. Thank reason that didn't happen.

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    1. Re:Good - One less IE-specific feature on the net by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It wasn't just visible to IE users... I remember AltaVista used to use Realnames (They were listed at the top of the results.) But since I haven't been to AltaVista in ages, I can't tell if they still had them. It wouldn't surprise if they got a few other search engines on board. Heck, ICQ was giving them away for fairly unique things (ie your name).

  43. .com means nothing by sweatyboatman · · Score: 2

    Internet TLDs mean nothing, they contribute no extra information. Slashdot.org is the same as Slashdot.com.

    The reason RealNames got so much money is that it was actually conceivable that people might just prefer not to have to type .com. This is a "feature" that AOL provides as well.

    I for one, would so much prefer to do away with TLDs altogether. Give Nabisco COOKIES if they want it. TLDs lead only to user confusion and annoyance as some bozo buys up YOURCOMPANY.NET or .TV or .ORG. And suddenly some of your clients are wondering when you got into the porn business.

    Maybe TLDs would be useful if they meant something. But as it is right now, they're meaningless and a nuisance for site owners and web users. Apparently, enough was thought of this nuisance that they were able to raise $100M on the promise of removing .com from the vernacular of the internet.

    Sweat

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    1. Re:.com means nothing by birder · · Score: 2, Informative

      It wasn't too long ago that slashdot.com went somewhere completely differnet to slashdot.org.

    2. Re:.com means nothing by macshit · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That's a silly argument; TLDs are quite often meaningful, and useful, as long as they're used correctly. Of course, in the rabid world of commercial entities trying to grab all mindshare, the usefulness of the system often gets trampled.

      Most of the (original) TLDs describe types of organizations so they're obviously the most useful when your site is that of one. Some TLDs contain mostly organizational host names (like .edu and .gov), so those are obviously the most focused and meaningful.

      `slashdot' doesn't name an organization at all so naturally it doesn't fit well into the system.

      The problems with TLDs mostly seem to be caused by the attempts to ignore them, trying to get around user cluelessness by using `.com' as a sort of `constant suffix for keywords'. This attempt to pretend that that domain names are handy keywords seems pretty hopeless (there's too much conflict), but I suppose people aren't going to stop doing it.

      I wish they'd just allow domain names without TLDs for this sort of `keyword' usage, allowing the TLDs to remain for domain names where they're useful (especially .edu). This would even help the existing TLDs a bit, by freeing up namespace currently used for `keywords' for use by real organizations.

      [Of course, I also wish the DNS admins would enforce some sort of `reasonableness', e.g., `no, you can't have coke.net, you're already coke.com! ... and no, you can't have coke.net, because you're a pr0n-meister trying to leech off of users' innocent mistakes!' Based on what happened in Australia, I guess it's not going to happen though...]

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    3. Re:.com means nothing by forged · · Score: 2
      • TLDs are quite often meaningful, and useful, as long as they're used correctly.

      That's the whole problem. With the internet gold rush on domain names, you are lucky when you can find a name for your business which counterpart .com domain name is still available. Domains in .net aren't just for Network organisations anymore, and .org is lame for a business.

      No thanks to script kiddies and squatters who registered en masse all the domains they could find a few years back, we're stuck with a very flat .com domain, and exponentially growing other TLDs. In the end, the situation is perverted: it isn't that simple to find a good name any more, and to get your domain.com is a miracle unless you don't mind shelling off $10,000's to someone who was quicker than you.

    4. Re:.com means nothing by ncc74656 · · Score: 2
      Internet TLDs mean nothing, they contribute no extra information. Slashdot.org is the same as Slashdot.com.

      Not always...one example that comes to mind is that mbusa.net is the website of a filtered ISP while mbusa.com is the American website of a certain German automaker. I doubt that's the only example where the TLD disambiguates.

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  44. Privacy by GigsVT · · Score: 2

    Does thing mean that MS no longer has an excuse to record every mistyped domain name along with a unique ID in IE?

    Nah, I'm sure they will continue to collect that data. After all, this is MS we are talking about.

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  45. are real case of wine by pretzel_logic · · Score: 1

    Seriously, how many people need to be on staff to operate a web business like that? A little software could manage thier whole outfit. They got rich, lost thier M$ account, and are now closing because thier get-rich-quick scheme is over. I could run that operation by myself in the evening :p

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  46. "Internet Keywords" by Animats · · Score: 2

    Netscrape had something called "Internet Keywords" that did roughly the same thing. Is that still in use?

  47. This is what happends by Micky+the+knife · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    when you go to bed with Microsoft

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  48. You know what Sucks? by Serial+Troller · · Score: -1

    You do, Slashdot. Like a £2 whore.

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  49. HOSTS? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I coulda sold my /etc/hosts?...

  50. cox0r. by Serial+Troller · · Score: -1

    cox0r. sux0r. yu0.

    Right now.

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  51. Too bad... by csguy314 · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    it might have been nice to get to slashdot by just typing in "/."
    and to get the microsoft site by typing in "you bastards"

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  52. Not really, no. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Type "farmlove" in the address bar, then hit CTRL-ENTER and it will take you to your favorite site. That is, unless you have picked up gohip or something in your pr0n searches.

  53. Will a five-year old prediction come true? by NewtonsLaw · · Score: 2

    Over five years ago I wrote this column in which I offered Bill Gates a "billion dollar" idea to help him achieve his goal of taking over the Internet.

    Perhaps the situation with RealNames is just a precursor to the implementation of this plan by Billy-boy?

    I bet if they weren't so worried about anti-trust laws, Microsoft would have already done this.

  54. Keebler is NOT owned by Kraft/PM/Altria by yerricde · · Score: 1

    Keebler is owned by NABISCO!

    Keebler.com's brands page, I see no evidence of any affiliation with Kraft Foods, Nabisco's parent company. In turn, Kraft's parent company is Altria.

    I don't buy Nabisco because 1. I don't like to support big tobacco and big booze (two other divisions of Altria), and 2. I simply prefer Keebler's products to Nabisco's.

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    1. Re:Keebler is NOT owned by Kraft/PM/Altria by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Keebler is a division of the Kellogg Company.

  55. Not the dumbest idea yet by far.... by NDPTAL85 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I know we're all laughing at how stupid the RealNames business plan is but I can remember a company that had a worse one.

    I can't remember the name of the company but their plan was to give each individual website and webpage its own phone number. They claimed it would be simpler for people to remember phone numbers for websites than URL's. Each extra page on a site would be like an extension to the phone number. Needless to say this company soon went out of business.

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  56. Not just IE! by SparkyMartin · · Score: 1

    Type "ss" or "sas" in Knoquorer and guess which site redirects you to another...

  57. worth reading: www.teare.com by bluemountain · · Score: 1

    Read the complete story about what happened, way interesting...

    1. Re:worth reading: www.teare.com by cgleba · · Score: 2

      mod parent up -- first-hand testimony

    2. Re:worth reading: www.teare.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That site should be mirrored, I'd like to compare it to the testimony later... and there will be testimony

  58. Re:CmdrTaco is a flag desecrator and Anti-Delawari by packeteer · · Score: 1

    sacrafic YOUR karma AC... ok ok there goes mine :)

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  59. RealNames provided Internet Keywords by yerricde · · Score: 1

    Netscrape had something called "Internet Keywords" that did roughly the same thing.

    RealNames dominates the first page of results from search for "Internet Keywords". But I'm not sure if Netscape's system was the same or not. Current versions of Mozilla (1.0 RC2) simply surround single words with www.$1.com.

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  60. Open Source by Grip3n · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Lets make this open source

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    1. Re:Open Source by kteare · · Score: 1

      Here are the open source API's.

      http://www.realnames.com/body/ar_techcenter.asp

      or use Keyword "RealNames Technical Documents".

  61. Open Source Misconceptions: UPDATED by Serial+Troller · · Score: -1
    OPEN SOURCE MISCONCEPTIONS By Serial Troller

    Myth: Open Source is written by heterosexuals.

    Fact: All Open Source development is done by raging homosexuals. The more flaming examples include Anal Cox, Linus Turdballs, Eric Ass-Reaming Raymond, and the entire Slashdot crew. The ringleader of the slashdotters, a man named CmdrTaco, engages in a practice known as Taco-snotting, along with his faggot-buddies Jeff Homos Bates and CowBoiKneel.

    Myth: Open Source is written for heterosexuals.

    Fact: Using Open Source software can cause suppressed homosexual fantasies to surface, leading to all out flaming faggotry within 6-8 weeks. Anecdotes of otherwise hetero men turning queer are far too numerous to count, but a few examples stand out. In one case, a man was arrested loitering outside an elementary school and making sexual overtures to several children: he quickly confessed that shortly after installing the Mozilla browser on his computer, he began to have uncontrollable urges to, to put it simply, have his cock sucked off by little boys. He soon met several other like-minded men through discussions on the Bugger Zilla mailing list (all already homosexuals), who together kidnapped a total of seven children whom they brought back to their apartment and sodomized. The other two men are still at large and believed to still be using Mozilla.

    Myth: Open Source is multicultural.

    Fact: Open Source is openly racist.

    Myth: Open Source is democratic.

    Fact: Open Source is controlled by a few narrow-minded zealots (mentioned throughout this post), most of whom are either Communists, Stalinists, Nazis, or Fascists. Additionally, Open Source supports terrorism.

    Myth: Open Source is tolerant of religious preferences.

    Fact: Open Source developers regularly engage in holy wars over the superiority of various Open Source projects, such as the Emacs program (preferred by Christians) versus vi (used mostly by neo-pagans and Satanists); or the KDE desktop (a favorite among Muslims) versus the GNOME project (particularly favored by Jews). Posts initiating crusades or jihads against other developers can be found regularly throughout the newsgroups and mailing lists.

    Myth: Open Source is tolerant of sexual preference.

    Fact: See above. Either you are a homo, you become a homo, or you never visit Richard Stallman alone in his office and hope to God you never meet him on the street at night.

    Myth: Open Source is tolerant of political differences.

    Fact: Open Source is an anarcho-communist philosophy bent on the destruction of capitalism. The very same Richard Stallman, a man whose name is disturbingly reminiscent of Stalin, has stated several times in public that his vision includes the subjugation of all who own intellectual properties under the jackboot of the GPL. The GPL is a pernicious piece of literature lifted straight from Karl Marxs Communist Manifesto, and is fortunately banned in many democratic nations.

    * * * * * UPDATE * * * * *

    Myth: Open Source programming is a harlmess, healthy activity.

    Fact: Open Source programming has been known to lead to massive obesity, violent tendencies with an obsession with handguns, paranoid-delusional ranting, and in severe cases, complete insanity. If anyone you know is thinking about going Open Source, stop them before its too late!

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  62. What to do when you get 'Slow Down Cowboy' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    On an entirely different subject, "Slow down, Cowboy" is really getting on by nerves.

    This has been addressed in a forum where it is more on-topic.

    See sid=32473&cid=3504364 for the answer.

  63. Random Acts of Kindness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    To whomever modded down the parent:

    Thanks for the censorship, pal.

  64. Re: Nor did SpyGlass by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    > IE never made a single red cent for Microsoft, but their monopoly position and cash reserves were used to force it down users' throats.

    IE was originally developed by SpyGlass (their copyright appears on it) yet SpyGlass never made a red cent off IE either.

    MS offered a contract whereby SpyGlass collected a fee for every copy of IE sold. Guess what: MS never 'sold' it. Consequently SpyGlass never got any money at all.

    MS doesn't just shove down users throats, it also operates at the other end for 'partners'.

    Of course IE became 'bundled' and inseparable from Windows and so must be a component of the sale price, but I'll bet that MS has still not sent any money to SpyGlass.

  65. Re:I am sure they cancelled because it wasnt worki by bluemountain · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Not quite. Check out www.teare.com. Has the full story.

  66. Stupider pack of schmucks? by Max+Webster · · Score: 1

    I guess the browser-redirection market wasn't big enough to support them AND CueCat.

  67. Good Riddance! by numark · · Score: 1

    Yeah, right, like I really wanted to type in "computers" and not know whether I was going to Dell's site (best case scenario) or HP's site (worst case scenario). RealNames's technology was even slightly useful only to newbies who have no clue about how to use the Internet.

    Me, I'll find my information without some idiotic little keywords system getting in my way. I'm not shedding even a tear in memory of RealNames. Good riddance! The Internet has been saved from another stupid technology.

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  68. Cookies and what? by GMontag · · Score: 2

    I thought "cookies" took you to Jennnifer.com??

  69. Hightowertech by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Last week, a company called hightowertech (not a plug) called us and tried to pitch their service, which is exactly the same as Realnames. Said they were affiliated with Microsoft.

  70. If looked at from another point of view... by zorander · · Score: 1

    Their idea was at it's heart a good one with a bad marketing department on top if it. Look at it this way: If there were a plugin that let people fairly and freely hook up text names to their computer(s) that were hooked to the internet and a central registry or something handled this pseudo DNS through another protocol name other than http maybe althttp:// or something, I don't know, then this could be a huge step towards openness compared to the current system...They just tried to commercialize it too much and it failed....If the words were not so much designed to be easy to remember as they were designed to provide an alternative identification mechanism to ICANN then the system would have been less defeatable (also would have helped if they natively supported as many browsers as possible)

    Brian

  71. Phone numbers? by LinuxHam · · Score: 2

    Closest I could find was ringmysite.com. Apparently, they would let visitors enter your phone number at their site and be autoforwarded to yours. Not a bad idea to me, really, reusing your own phone number that is.

    What I *thought* you were referring to was the spam that has web URLs shown as long numeric sequences. I once read about a business that offered phone number forwarders specifically because its easier for WAP phone users to enter phone numbers than alpha URLs. Well, a little research has shown that those purely numeric domains are simply an exploit against DNS resolvers. Those "domain names" are calculated by converting the dotted quad IP addresses to hex, concatenating the four fields, and converting the now 8-digit hex value into base 10. From the linked google hit, try pinging 1078106110. It works, and is the same length as a North American phone numbers (but is technically not valid).

    I say "exploit" because the freakish domain names fail in reverse lookups, which makes them popular with spammers. Granted, a ping reveals the calculated IP which may or may not complete a reverse lookup, but I'm *still* teaching someone "ping" at least once a week.

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    1. Re:Phone numbers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Yeah those spammy looking numbers were great fun except IE 6 doesn't support it anymore.

      http://slashdot.org
      http://64.28.67.150 translates into for those with IE 5
      http://0x40.0x1C.0x43.0x96
      http://0100.034.010 3.0226
      http://21475912074134
      http://1075594134

  72. Netscape? by Ilgaz · · Score: 1

    I type "my yahoo" instead of "my.yahoo.com" and Netscape 6 (I bet 4.x too) sends me to my.yahoo.com, I always thought it was a Realnames&Netscape thing such as "what's related" is a Alexa&Netscape thing.

    So it will be affected? Not?

    1. Re:Netscape? by kteare · · Score: 1

      Netscape will not be affected. AOL runs its own Keyword thing at keywords.netscape.com. Its a small database of about 40k names but it works for many popular sites. Doesn't do Chinese and Japanese theough. RealNames main strength - appart from aliasing a physical address [URL]- which is always a good thing, was to do it in all languages. The URL is only ASCII.

  73. Back from Tech by K5+Diary+Update · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Unless i get a job real soon here i'm going to have to kill something. I'm just squatting, listening to the new eminem, thanks rns, and damnit, I need to fucking get out of here. The family's been ok to come back to, but I'd still rather just.. go.. back.. I'd even be ok with taking classes, just for something to be doing.

    Hopefully things will work out with a job I'm looking at now, which should keep me occupied the rest of the summer. I guess i'm just feeling a lot of angst at everything at the moment. It feels too much like the high school life I left behind when I left for college. It's boring, and there really aren't that many people that I'm dying to hang out with. I should find someone to hookup with over the summer, that'd keep me occupied.

    Whatever.

  74. Buy-A-Name by n4zgl · · Score: 1
    shesh what a fake market.

    deal in vapourdata, get ingited.

  75. RealNames founder sez M$ will roll out their own by The+Mutant · · Score: 3, Informative

    On his private web page, RealNames founder Keith Teare sez M$ will probably integrate the functionality directly into IE.

    Why am I not surprised at this?

  76. d*mbf*ck businesses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    if they had given 100 mil to debian and kde.
    every business in American would have free software
    to run their business for the next century.
    what a waste.

  77. OS COOKIES!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    This recipe is based on Nicole Faust Hunt's Absolute Best Chocolate Chip Cookie recipe, found by Googling and following the first link. Nicole says this is a secret family recipe. Not anymore!

    This recipe comes without guarantee, not even the implied guarantee that the cookies will be yummy. You're free to copy it and use it to make cookies, and you can modify it anyway it you want, but if somebody asks you for a recipe, you have to fork it over.

    Ingredients:

    1 cup butter
    3/4 cup white sugar
    3/4 cup brown sugar
    2 eggs
    Mexican vanilla extract [probably a teaspoon]
    2 1/4 cups all-purpose flour
    1 teaspoon baking soda
    1 teaspoon salt
    2 cups chocolate chips

    Directions:

    1 Preheat oven to 350 degrees F (175 degrees C). Grease cookie sheets.
    2 In a large bowl, cream together the butter flavored shortening, brown sugar and white sugar until light and fluffy. Add the eggs one at a time, beating well with each addition, then stir in the vanilla .Combine the flour, baking soda and salt; gradually stir into the creamed mixture. Finally, fold in the chocolate chips. Drop by rounded spoonfuls onto the prepared cookie sheets.
    3 Bake for 8 to 10 minutes in the preheated oven, until light brown. Allow cookies to cool on baking sheet for 5 minutes before removing to a wire rack to cool completely.

    Note:

    Mexican vanilla extract can be found in Mexican grocery stores. If you can't find it, feel free to substitute regular vanilla extract.

  78. filthy lucre by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The love of money, not money itself is the root of all evil.

    Timothy 6:10 "For the love of money is the root of all evils, and some people in their desire for it have strayed from the faith and have pierced themselves with many pains."

    King James gives: " For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows."

    New International reads: " For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs."

    (OOT [on off=topic]) I despise Microsoft as much as the next penguinista, but the "M$" thing is puerile. Grow up.

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    1. Re:filthy lucre by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      wasn't there also something about a camel and a needle

  79. For Sure, For M$... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think it'd be a great move for M$ to cancel their aggreement w/ Real Names.. b/c wouldn't they rather take the "registration fees" from nabisco, rather than let Real Names take them?

    I mean.. ever heard of "AOL KEYWORD" .. how about "IE KEYWORD" ?!

    Nesta

  80. Old news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is about 10 days old ffs http://comments.fuckedcompany.com/phpcomments/inde x.php?newsid=86419&page=1&parentid=0&crapfilter=1

  81. A comment on a terae.com article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    According to the terae.com article, it looks like a typical microsoft tactic, shutdown a company then copy its services. Gee, that anti-trust suit does not seem to be slowing them down one bit.

    Also microsoft .NET is being pushed, sold, and shoved onto companies; if microsoft is moving away from the .NET strategy, then they are shooting themselves in the foot, and all the pushing, selling, and shoving is all for naught. It will make some early adopters of .NET look foolish, and make even more people upset (besides the newest critics: ex-employees of realnames, investors of realnmaes and compnies that had keywords sold by realnames).

  82. Re:RealNames founder sez M$ will roll out their ow by Spoing · · Score: 2
    Why am I not surprised at this?

    Agreed. MS has integrated much more complex ideas in the past. This one is trivial if MS wants to do it themselves -- and MS doesn't need to muck with any kind of expensive and awkward transition by buying RealNames.

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  83. RealNames death warrant: from browsers and Google by afflatus_com · · Score: 1

    The usefulness of RealNames was when a most familiar brand did not match up with the domain name. For example: "Nissan" isn't at nissan.com

    However, once Google was able to pick out the famous brand's website, automatically by reverse-citation, and then Google Toolbar, Mozilla, Opera put this searching direct from the browser url box, a type-in of "Nissan" into the browser's address bar search box would jump to nissanmotors.com directly, without the company having to pay any toll to RealNames at all.

    Thus, RealNames long-term revenue prospects dried up. Closing up shop was inevitable.

    I won't miss them much, as they had a policy of no generic keyword names, but then broke that policy every time one of their partner sites needed a generic keyword.

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  84. even easier by XMunkki · · Score: 1

    Just go to a site, select Favorites/Add to Favorties and write to the site name your preferred short cut entry (for example go to www.nabisco.com and add it as a "cookies" favorite).

    This way your shortcut entry refers to an actual URL, not a host plus this needs no meddling in system hosts file.

  85. But it's okay... by FFFish · · Score: 2

    because the important thing is this: the executives got million-dollar paycheques. That made it all worthwhile!

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  87. The CEO's Take by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.teare.com/

  88. Stop whining, tell the whole story Teare! by Pissed-off+Registry · · Score: 1

    'Nice to blame all in sight, so as to divert attention from the fact that Registries and Registrars, also their Re-sellers (The same people Teare now refers to for the purposes of raising sympathy!) were being screwed by RealNames on an ongoing basis! Note that the product has been completely changed in nature and that that is the real reason for the demise - it was not going to fly! Changes include upping the price tenfold, pasting advertising on clients and users' screens, no search engine functionality other than on MSN, almost no media profile whatsoever. Worst of all, clients who bought the original (Better) product and invested in all sorts of material and media, were screwed no end, what with being forced to buy at the old price times ten! That is if they could get the Keyword. Imagine what this does to a Registry/Registrar/Re-sellers relationships with current clients. Lastly, their tracking and billing systems are so useless, they were not able to generate an accurate account in more than a year's time. Conveniently so perhaps, given the fact that the franchises (We contracted for 32 countries, some as Registries, others as Registrars and spent millions on roll-outs)they sold us referred to 300 times the number of active clients/words and totally ridiculous revenue models. 'Buyer beware' I hear - but they used the names of Microsoft and Verisign, Morgan Stanley and all the rest in sight to support their claims. We have tried to resolve issues for months, travelling around the world twice, lobbying, declaring disputes and now proceeding to court and in the process have found huge numbers of disgruntled parties, accross the spectrums mentioned. Feel free to contact me at cobus@keywordssa.co.za if you feel you can contribute or gain by doing so. Stop crying and start telling the whole story Keith Teare!

  89. what should a good system look like? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    how should i navigate the web to find the right resource if:
    1. i want a dishwasher and i live in ny?
    2. i want a dishwasher and i heard that bosch is a good brand, but i don't know the url for bosch's website?
    3. i want to know about bosch but i want other choices?

    seems to me that the DNS won't work if bosch doesn't own bosch.com, that realnames wont work if any private company owns the realname DISHWASHER (or if another bosch owns BOSCH), and that pay-per-performance only tells me who has the largest advertising budget.

  90. why Google is better by rp · · Score: 1

    The problem is not the business model.

    It's a fine idea to let users type keywords or names in order to go to the site they want.

    The stupid part is the assumption that someone else can manually make the appropriate mapping between keywords and sites.

    Google is so good because it fundamentally doesn't rely on this (even when the "submit my site" feature and meta tags trick webmasters into believing that it does).