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The Truth Revealed

usermilk writes "Now that the X-Files has finally ended, I recommend you all check out The X-Files Timeline. It has a list of all the episodes, chronologically, and what happened when. A very good utility in figuring out what the heck happened, and when." If it hasn't shown in your timezone yet, obviously, don't click through.

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  1. The ending, in a headline by bskin · · Score: 5, Funny

    Local FBI Agent Discovers Religion; Gets Laid

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    1. Re:The ending, in a headline by Navius+Eurisko · · Score: 2

      I had a tad baffled by this. Although Carter never made it explicitly clear in the show, isn't Mulder presumed to be Jewish?

    2. Re:The ending, in a headline by Paradise+Pete · · Score: 2, Funny
      If you need to interpret my post, then you don't get it.

      Just what are you trying to say?

    3. Re:The ending, in a headline by JLyle · · Score: 3, Funny
      Nothing says you stop being Jewish if you decide to accept the tennants of Christianity.

      Who are the tennants (sic) of Christianity and how much rent are they paying?
  2. Wow Right on Time by shaunj · · Score: 4, Funny

    I don't know what is more amazing.

    -Slashdot had an article about the end of the X-Files at EXACTLY 10:00PM

    or

    -I checked Slashdot for an article on the X-Files at EXACTLY 10:00PM :-)

  3. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 2, Informative

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  4. Just finished watching by BgJonson79 · · Score: 2

    To be honest, I really liked the ending. It summed it up well for those of us who missed various large chunks. And make sure you set some time aside on December 22, 2012 to see the fireworks.

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    1. Re:Just finished watching by MathJMendl · · Score: 2

      I very much didn't like the ending. The rest of the episode was good but the ending ranked high on The Cheese Factor (TM), and it didn't answer anything. The rest of the episode summed up things well, but it definitely didn't sum up the ending. I think they left things open ended in large part due to the movies that will come out. I bet there will be some kind of final movie with Mulder and Scully against the alien invasion. My expectations aren't too high for that though. The X-Files was a great series, but a lot of it feasted on leaving things open to the imagination. Once they answer everything, it just becomes something like the movie Independence Day.

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  5. Re:Another episode by fishebulb · · Score: 2

    Dont click the link moron. It gives away nothing about the episode, unless you ignore the warning to not click the link

    then its your own fault

  6. ex-files? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I always said "10-files". Damn you Steve Jobs and your MacOSX.

    1. Re:ex-files? by daeley · · Score: 2
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  7. Re:dumbasses by chazzf · · Score: 2

    Why don't you just not click through the link until you've seen the finale? There, was that so hard now?

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  8. Mark Your Calendars by Servo5678 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Spoilers ahead yadda yadda yadda...

    So, anyone got plans for December 22, 2012?

    Well, in all seriousness, now that it's all over - who's truth was out there? Did we learn anything new at all? Granted, I liked the extensive recap they gave us in the first hour. It refreshed my memory and got me caught up on a few things that I missed. The in the second hour we got a big chase and in the end nothing happened. What happened to Doggett and Reyes? Skinner? The rest of our players?

    I guess what I'm getting at is: WHAT WAS THE POINT?!?

    1. Re:Mark Your Calendars by Servo5678 · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Except that the next movie is supposed to be a stand-alone non-Mythology film.

      http://www.corona.bc.ca/films/details/xfiles2.html has more information.

    2. Re:Mark Your Calendars by eyeball · · Score: 4, Informative

      At the risk of sounding like someone who actually believes in this stuff, Dec 21 2012 is the end of the Mayan Great Cycle on their calendar. Read about it here or do a google search.

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    3. Re:Mark Your Calendars by Servo5678 · · Score: 2
      does thata rule out others? I don't think so

      It depends on how much money the next movie makes, I'd imagine.

    4. Re:Mark Your Calendars by ImaLamer · · Score: 2

      Yeah - not only is it the end, but a bloody one at that.

      All of our tools [computers to chainsaws] and domesticated animals [from cows to cats] will attack us for the great wrongs we caused...

      ...no mention if we can reverse it, I'm almost certain the date is set in stone (literally and yes; we can't change it)

      Supposedly this has already happened and is noted on the Mayan calenders. But there is a reason that date has been selected, I guess.

    5. Re:Mark Your Calendars by Neuracnu+Coyote · · Score: 3, Interesting

      You know, I bet you were one of the people to bug their coworkers on August 29, 1997 and excitedly ask them if they were all prepared for the Terminator/SkyNet apocalypse. I can't give you those long ago squandered minutes of your life back.

      Here's the scoop. The guys at Fox aren't dummies. They know what a salivating fan base the X-Files carries. The way to cash in here is to:

      a) Take the next few months off and start (or continue) development on an end-all, be-all second X-Files movie, which will no doubt include more scenes of Scully and Mulder necking around spaceships. This will neatly tie up some of the loose ends left open by the series finale and give everyone warm, fuzzy feelings deep in their cockles.

      b) Q3, 2011. Fox introduces a new series based on the X-Files' impending fictional doomsday featuring sexy, wise-cacking teens outwitting grodey, bug-eyed alien conspirators. But it'll have a story arc, so the geeks are forced to watch it all.

      Just my vision of the future.

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    6. Re:Mark Your Calendars by Chris+Y+Taylor · · Score: 2

      >So, anyone got plans for December 22, 2012?

      I plan on running around town looking for Christmas presents.

  9. Hope? by mcknation · · Score: 3, Funny



    That's what I'm left with? Hope? WTF?
    Yeah, hope that Chris Carter gets abducted himself.....and soon.

    McK

  10. Re:not a spoiler please read by apoKalypse · · Score: 2

    what part of 'people still have to wait 3hrs to watch the show' dont you get?

  11. what an amazing ending! by jdbo · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...that was fantastic! Yoda totally kicked ass!

    oh, wait...

  12. timeline by Frizzled · · Score: 3, Informative

    the actual timeline is under the conspiracy link, it has all the episodes and ties the movie in as well:

    http://www.themareks.com/xf/conspiracy.shtml

    _f

  13. The series finale was pretty good. by Navius+Eurisko · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Considering how stale the last two season had become, I was worried that the finale would have been half assed just to finish off what was once one of the greatest dramas airing of TV.

    The first hour of the finale IMO was the weakest part. I was worried when Skinner was pulling past characters as witnesses for Mulder's trial that Carter did a lame character reunion finale. Thankfully, the show picked up in the latter half.

    I did have some problems with the finale, however:

    1. The reason behind Kurst's sudden aid was never explained. His sudden character reversal was unsettling to me.

    2. I think they overdid the Smoking Man's demise. Sure, Carter probably had that shot of his face peeling away to the skull to appease all the fanboys who would claim he escaped death again. But the fanboys would say that anyway if Mulder shot him several times in the face then relieved himself on his dead body.

    The ending seem to fit the feel of the show. The protagionists now know the truth, but a little bit more of the picture remains out there. I can definately see a movie revolving around the alien invasion comming from this finale.

    1. Re:The series finale was pretty good. by jayed_99 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      A lot of things in the last two seasons have been reversals. Mulder -- male who believes; Scully -- female who does not beleive. Dogget -- male who does not believe; Reyes -- female who does believe. Skinner -- boss who helps them out most of the time while being obstructive once in a while; Kerst -- boss who is obstuctive most of the time but helps them out once in a while. (This even goes back to the beginning two seasons ago -- Scully (the female) is the proponent of the X-files, Dogget (the male) is the doubting one...just a bit of a reversal from the first year).

      This finale is just all of the different characters focusing on one point. The male and female characters (Mulder/Dogget - Scully/Reyes) and the bosses (Skinner/Kerst) all coming together at the same point -- breaking Mulder out of prison.

      There is no "explanation" for it. It's just an directorial attempt to bring all of the opposites from pre-Duchovny/post-Duchovny onto the same track so they can make some movies that start with all of the main characters on the same track.

      (And, actually, I'm not an X-files fanboy. My wife is obsessed though, so I've had them shoved down my throat for years).

    2. Re:The series finale was pretty good. by sconeu · · Score: 2

      all coming together at the same point -- breaking Mulder out of prison.

      And as a nice touch, they escaped in a Ford Escape!!!!

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  14. Re:Another episode by dimator · · Score: 2

    You're suggesting that one skip the entire discussion as well?

    Oh God forbid if you skip a discussion this time! Oh, the humanity!

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  15. good episode, bad ending by MathJMendl · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I guess I might be against the river flow on this one, but I thought that that was a very good episode. I mean, it had the classic X-Files struggle between the conspirators and the truth, along with the normal dosage of action and science fiction. The only major weaknesses I found were that the deputy director (the guy Skinner reports to) switched, since I would deem that highly unlikely after all he went through, the smoking man returning (he was a good character but I think if anything his coming back raised more questions than answers). Also, the end scene with Mulder and Scully was cheesy, and a couple of explanations were not very good.

    It was still a good episode though. As a series finale it could have improved, but since they have already stated that a movie is coming out, this definitely is NOT the last chapter.

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    1. Re:good episode, bad ending by _xeno_ · · Score: 5, Insightful
      The only major weaknesses I found were that the deputy director (the guy Skinner reports to) switched.

      I'm not sure he really switched - I think that the conspirators wanted Mulder to be killed while trying to escape from jail and not via a military trial, as that would be a much cleaner way to kill him when people go looking for him. ("Oh sure, the trial may have been unfair, but Mulder tried to run and was killed while escaping, so it really doesn't matter - stop looking into it.") After all, "they" knew where Mulder was anyway and it's not so much of a stretch to imagine that he would have been placed to try and get Mulder killed.

      The other option is that he wanted Mulder out of the way, but not killed, and got cold feet after Mulder was sentenced to lethal injection.

      But I dunno, I wasn't really paying too much attention to the episode, and may have missed some things (and may be completely off the wall since I never really watched the X-Files anyway).

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    2. Re:good episode, bad ending by ArsonPerBuilding · · Score: 2, Funny

      And didn't Carter say in TV Guide that Mulder was on trial because he broke the Good Samaritin law?

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    3. Re:good episode, bad ending by WEFUNK · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm not sure he really switched - I think that the conspirators wanted Mulder to be killed while trying to escape from jail and not via a military trial, as that would be a much cleaner way to kill him when people go looking for him. ("Oh sure, the trial may have been unfair, but Mulder tried to run and was killed while escaping, so it really doesn't matter - stop looking into it.") After all, "they" knew where Mulder was anyway and it's not so much of a stretch to imagine that he would have been placed to try and get Mulder killed.

      At first I thought this too, but I would have thought that Gibson - the boy who can read minds, would have read the Deputy Director's mind we he said "head north etc.". If he was lying or had a bad motivation for his advice, he would have been found out right then (actually I assumed they would'nt take his advice to head to Canada and when they actually turned south I thought for a moment that maybe Gibson had said or signalled something to Mulder - but that wasn't the case).

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  16. Re:huh? by Servo5678 · · Score: 4, Informative
    From what I've read Carter is planning another X-Files movie, but it will be a stand-alone film plotwise (like a monster-of-the-week episode) and won't have anything to do with the Mythology.

    Check out this page at Coming Attractions for the latest details.

  17. Re:Please remember - no spoilers 'till it's played by 56ker · · Score: 2, Redundant

    At least the West Coasters can't compain that /. gave anything away in the article - they don't have to click on the links if they don't want to.

  18. Re:Yippy :-p by ASyndicate · · Score: 2

    Why do you think they did that.

    With such a good show, you cant meet the viewers expectations. Seinfeld didnt even try.

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  19. Re:More movies? by jo42 · · Score: 2, Interesting
    In the various entertainment blurbs, while flipping through the channels, it is official, there is a YAXM (Yet Another X-Files Movie) coming. Chris Carter, fscking bastard that he is, left the final episode wide open for a follow on: I predict it will be called "X-Files: A New Hope" [see the last few minutes of the finale]. I also thought the finale stunk like a wet suicide wing and beer fart. I so wanted to bitch slap Carter for not answering much of anything and having everyone ineffective as they have always been - argh!.

    Well, at least we know for sure that Fox and Dana knocked booties and had a love child.

  20. Re:Please remember - no spoilers 'till it's played by MathJMendl · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Lol, after last time, do you really think anyone on the West coast is going to be checking Slashdot until after the ending? I mean, it was rather obvious that Slashdot was going to write an article about this. They have learned their lesson about this by now though. The only thing that surprised me was that article about The Lone Gunmen being possibly alive, based on a picture of them in the movie. Given the number of flashbacks in these episodes I doubted that they would be alive to begin with. Plus, how would they have survived that? It was very clear how they died, as opposed to other characters who died in more mysterious fashions, thus leaving it possible to bring them back.

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  21. Re:like the comic book guy said... by MathJMendl · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I agree that it was the worst X-Files finale ever. Of course, it was the only X-Files finale, so it couldn't be the best. And it definitely wasn't the worst episode ever, given all those cheesy ones a couple years ago with zombies and genetic weirdos. Still, it wasn't really a finale, given that they will bring the show back in the theatres. Plus, given all that has happened with the X-Files, what good way was there to finish it? The only comparable thing I can imagine was that time they had all the cars and people meeting together when they were attempting to get away from the aliens, and the aliens killed them. That episode could have been the finale if something different happened. Also, that episode where Mulder found someone who knew his father was quite good.

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  22. Re:Thank you, ChrisD by MathJMendl · · Score: 2

    If you are suggesting that you're a West coaster, you wouldn't have really checked with Slashdot before watching it, would you? I think after last time it was doubtful that they would do the same again. That thing has been beaten to death by now.

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  23. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 3, Insightful

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  24. Re:come now by MathJMendl · · Score: 2

    How did they "lone gunman" the thing? They told nothing of the plot, just a link to the timeline. Move along, nothing to see here.

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  25. Re:Please remember - no spoilers 'till it's played by Naikrovek · · Score: 2

    don't forget some of us in other countries.

    yeah, also there's this great new band. they're brand new, they're called KISS, and they rock!

  26. Smoking man by Chazmati · · Score: 5, Informative

    I mostly agree, and especially about smoking man returing. Was I supposed to feel some long overdue sense of closure to see him die in a super inferno slow-motion death scene? I had already written him off.

    Besides, he was looking cooler than ever, Anasazi-style.

  27. 2012 by rbolkey · · Score: 5, Funny

    CMOS technology stops improving. Alien invasions. I think it's beginning to look like a really good year to skip out on.

    1. Re:2012 by interiot · · Score: 2

      Also, recessions tend to happen about every 10 years, so the next one has a decent chance of happening during 2012.

  28. bring on the movies!!!! by the_2nd_coming · · Score: 2

    all that main characters are alive...the conspericy lives on....the good guys are still fighting to win.....that equates to at least 2 movies

    I can't wait

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  29. i-95 by cr@ckwhore · · Score: 2

    First of all, i-95 doesn't go to texas. It probably wouldn't have hurt the producers, writers, and anybody else involved, to pick up a map and take a quick look.

    Besides that slight innacuracy,can anybody explain how Mulder is suddenly able to communcate with dead people now?

    Seriously, I'm not very impressed by this finale. It was poorly written, and the trial scene was simply a cheap way out for the writers to explain "the big picture" without putting much effort into it.

    Guess there are plenty of holes left for the next movie.

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    1. Re:i-95 by jonathanjo · · Score: 2

      First of all, i-95 doesn't go to texas. It probably wouldn't have hurt the producers, writers, and anybody else involved, to pick up a map and take a quick look.
      Dude, you take 95 south to 40 west. Either 95 or 81 (avoid the cities), but who would think of that?
      (Actually, Mapquest says something about going west out of DC on 70. Who knew?)

    2. Re:i-95 by ocelotbob · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Besides that slight innacuracy,can anybody explain how Mulder is suddenly able to communcate with dead people now?

      He wasn't really communicating with them, IMO. It was more like they were a physical manifestation of his doubts etc, telling him that the path he was on was no good. So basically, the Lone Gunmen were all in his head.

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    3. Re:i-95 by Sammy76 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Actually, at the beginning of the episode when he was talking to Krychek (sp?), I thought I knew how CC was going to end/explain the series. Perhaps it was all going to be in Mulder's head, a huge schizophrenic nightmare (much like A Beautiful Mind).

      But it couldn't have been manifestations of his doubts, because they provided new, unknown information (a witness's address, for instance). So what the hell was with the communication with the dead?

    4. Re:i-95 by j-beda · · Score: 2
      Perhaps it was all going to be in Mulder's head

      "St. Elsewhere" finished their run with an episode that explained away the entire series as being the fantasy of an autistic child (one of the minor (no pun intended) characters in the series).

      And then there was the last "Newhart" show (where he is a hotel owner in Vermont) where it turns out that the entire series was a dream taking place in the old "Bob Newhart" show - the one where he is a psychologist.

  30. lame by coaxial · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The episode sucked. There was no truth. It was just a clip show. Fine the black oil is an alien virus that causes aliens to grow inside you and then bust out. But WAIT! That was only for a few episodes, then we go back to the black oil just taking over your body.

    The black oil came to earth on a meteorite. Fine, but how does that explain Roswell? The aliens crashed because of the magnetite? So the grays are the same as the super soldiers? That doesn't make sense. So we'll just ignore that...

    So everyone in the galaxy except for humans and the renegades are infected with the black oil? Assuming that's true, how could selfdisfigurement keep the renegades from being infected, when they're made of the same green foam as the same as the alien bounty hunters?

    And so what was The Big Truth? The Cigarette
    Smoking Man teased us with revealing it, but
    never did. Unless it was the invasion occurs
    Dec 22, 2012. How is the Big Secret?

    Last week's was far better.

    1. Re:lame by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 2

      "Unless it was the invasion occurs
      Dec 22, 2012. How is the Big Secret?"

      Ummm, yes, that is The Big Secret(tm). That the date for the invasion was real, set, and had been sety for thousands of years and that presumably nothing could be done about it.

    2. Re:lame by Groucho · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Here's the thing, see: the old episodes worked because they made no sense except for a kind of dream logic. Trying to figure out what was going on with the greys and the clones and the black oil and the government plots would drive you dizzy. It was also more subtle--rather than hit you over the head with the words "alien" and "extraterrestrial" in every sentence, you'd wait through a whole episode just to hear the word hybrid or colonization.

      Then the writing became horribly literal and hamfistedly explicit, but there was no way to make daylight sense out of the dream logic, and the whole thing turned into a big pile of ca-ca.

      For me, the best X files episodes were the ones that made the least sense and reveled in it, like Clive Bruckman, Jose Chung, and Hollywood AD (the nutty nutty nutty one with the Lazarus bowl and Gary Shandling and the dancing undead).

      G

    3. Re:lame by matrix29 · · Score: 2

      3) The super soldiers were normal humans manipulated with the Gray's genes, dumb ass.
      Defacement kept them from getting infected, just face the fact that the virus needs an orifice to enter the body...even pores in the skin, so basically the aliens closed all orifices, including skin pores. Do you want a science book or something?

      [ Grammar corrected for reading simplification ]

      So you're saying the Grays have no openings in their flesh? Wow, I'd think it easier to wear a snug transparent spacesuit than seal all of my bodily openings. That reminds me of a joke about a guy with a tight ass telling another fellow, "Just shut up!," when he had an inquiry about it. To which the reply was, "You are full of shit!," and the reply to that was a groaning, "I know."

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  31. The Lone Gunmen LIVE!!! by night_flyer · · Score: 4, Funny

    oh wait, no they arent... sorry...

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    1. Re:The Lone Gunmen LIVE!!! by doorbot.com · · Score: 2

      The Lone Gunmen LIVE!

      ...from New York it's Saturday Night!

      Oh wait, I read that wrong. Damn those homonyms.

      Now I'm getting the vision of a Lone Gunmen show on Broadway with line dancing.

    2. Re:The Lone Gunmen LIVE!!! by zCyl · · Score: 2

      I was afraid that Slashdot was going to "The Lone Gunmen are Ghosts" the X-Files finale.

  32. Re:dumbasses by I+Want+GNU! · · Score: 2

    /. didn't reveal any information about the episode, and people who ahven't seen it yet won't click through the link. There are plenty of good reasons for criticizing slashdot, you should wait till those happen, instead of making up excuses.

  33. It sucked. by yzquxnet · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Sure, it was better than the last half dozen. It still wasn't the X-files I remember. They didn't even leave you hanging. The writers should have kept smoking whatever it was when the series started, cause it was working. Oh well, time to see what else is on. There is a new program that I found interesting called CSI, I will have to see how that one turns out.

    1. Re:It sucked. by the_2nd_coming · · Score: 2, Interesting

      1) why would they leave you hanging in the last show ever to be made?

      2)there was plenty unresolved for many movies to come.

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    2. Re:It sucked. by Sentry21 · · Score: 2

      There is a new program that I found interesting called CSI, I will have to see how that one turns out.

      My guess is, the guy dies.

      --Dan

  34. subtract a day by dmnic · · Score: 2, Informative

    12/21/2012
    the ancient maya, hindu and chinese calendars all stop counting on this date

    1. Re:subtract a day by geekoid · · Score: 2

      it depends.
      there is some descrepency on when 0.0.0.0.0.0 is, which means we don't know exactly when 13.0.0.0.0.0 is.
      the is the maya 6th cycle. after the first cycle, the mayans said everybody on earth was eaten by a jaguar, secod cyscle every on was killed by air, then fire, and well I forget what killed everyone in the 3,4,5 cycles.
      Now, the exact day isn't know, but I suspect some people haved "bumped" it so it will be on soliste. coincedently, the sun will be in a uniques place in our sky, but it happens every 25,000 years.AFAIK, it hasn't destroyed the universe yet.

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  35. Revelation by techstar25 · · Score: 2

    I stopped watching the x-files two years ago but I did watch the last episode tonight, because I was a huge fan. Apparently I didn't miss anything the last two years. Cool.

  36. X-Files was still on? by Glytch · · Score: 2

    I spent the last few hours watching Attack of the Clones instead. I had no idea X-Files was even around anymore. X-Files was great before the movie, but the after that, it was about as entertaining as a punctured colostomy bag.

  37. Re:I love my satellite dish by Abstrakt · · Score: 2, Interesting
    • Thanks to CIHF, a Global affiliate in Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada, I saw the finale 3 hours before most people did... :-)
    Amateur. ;-) With a commercial MPEG2 decoder and a C-Band dish, you could've seen the network feed yesterday morning...

    Cheers,

  38. 2012? by carlhirsch · · Score: 2

    Didn't Grant Morrison already use that date to better effect in his _The Invisibles_ comic?

    Although, come to think of it, his narrative fell apart at crunch time as well.

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  39. 2012 by minus23 · · Score: 2

    Terrance McKenna had developed a way to map out the flow of entropy and novelty as it ebb'ed it's way though history. Under his calculations.. he says novelty hits an infinate spike in 2012. He states his research was done with no knowledge of the Mayan Calandar that ends on the same date. (which kept track for 5000 years before that.). Some suspect that there is another planet out there on a 3,500 year orbit named "Niburu" which is set to return at that same time.
    w00t! -- 2012 could be very exciting..

  40. 2012 / 2112 by Violet+Null · · Score: 5, Funny

    So, 2012 may be the end of the Mayan calendar, but the real date to remember would be 2112, since that's when the Solar Federation is going to get overrun by the returning ships of the true human race.

  41. Military Tribunals by Catbeller · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Anyone notice Carter's demonstration of the insanity of "miltary tribunals" in which the accusers are also the judges?

    Not a coincidence that it maps closely to the current "fry 'em in the dark" policy instituted by Bush and company. Detention in secret, no contact with relatives or lawyers, disposition a secret as well -- hell, Mulder got better treatment at his "trial" than someone held under the current "emergency".

    I think Chris Carter was trying to not so subtly draw attention to our new system of "alternative" justice.

    1. Re:Military Tribunals by JFMulder · · Score: 2

      Nah, I think you,re going a bit too far. This was typical gouvernement behaviour for an X-Files episode, and should not be treated as anything else as fiction. It may be this see someplaces in the US, but I don't think Carter was trying to do anything else then to show that Mulder was in a pretty bad situation.

    2. Re:Military Tribunals by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 4, Informative

      Don't forget about the couple of mentions of "shadow goverment" - I don't recalling hearing that term on the X-files prior to this episode, but I it certainly has been in the real news recently and at least one of the uses in tonights episode matched the real-world meaning too (when they referred to the facility where Mulder got busted as being the location of the current shadow government - a big underground bunker where people are serving on a rotational basis in case there is a serious attack on our government infrastructure, they should be protected).

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    3. Re:Military Tribunals by JFMulder · · Score: 2

      Huh? Have you watched the show during the past years? That term has been used for waaaaayyyy long time. Maybe the media even picked the expression up from the show!

    4. Re:Military Tribunals by Catbeller · · Score: 2
      1. How would handle the problem of reciprocity against testifying witnesses?

      How have we handled it for the last 225 years? Is this a new problem requiring the suspension of the U.S. Constitution?
      And that was not a reason given for the secret tribunals by Bush.

      2. How would you handle the damage done to our intelligence gathering apparatus when the identities of the witnesses are revealed?

      The damage is done when the suspect is taken off the street and disappeared. Do you not think that 1000+ people disappeared and no one noticed, especially the few (or none) that really are terrorists?

      3. How would you plan to subpoena witnesses when they are likely to be foreign nationals and indeed, are likely to be penalty of perjury?

      We seem to kidnap them. If we can disappear them from U.S. streets, I guarantee CIA cowboys are yanking people into vans all over the world.

      The realistic answer to all of this is if we adhere to the constitutional process of citizen trial, the prosecution simply not occur. The offenders would have to go free...

      Wow. In that case, we need to end this farce called a constitutional government. Anoint the Holy Bush, selected by God Himself (according to the right wing clergy), Dictator for Life, with the power of high and the low justice. At least for darkies. Dispense with the rule of the unwashed, uneducated masses, and we'll finally get things done!

      Alleluyah!


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  42. Dear Mr. Tolkien by DiveX · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Apologies to JMS.

    Dear Mr. Tolkien:
    I just wanted to say that I think the way you ended THE LORD OF THE RINGS was crap. You didn't provide any closure. Instead of spending time with the hobbits clearing out the shire (come on, urban renwal in LoTR? give me a break) and lots of goodbyes, you SHOULD have shown me what happened to Tom Bombadil, he was an important part of the story, and you just left his story thread there unresolved.

    You made a big deal out of the elves going to the west, but we never SAW it! We never found out what was there, or what Bilbo found when he got there, or what happened to the dwarves, or what happened to Merry and Pippin....

    You betrayed your audience by not resolving every single plot thread you introduced in your book, and as a result, it is never going to be of value to anyone, ever, and will never go past its first printing.

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    1. Re:Dear Mr. Tolkien by DiveX · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The comment was written by (hance my reference to) Joe Michael Strachinski (creator of the SF TV show Babylon 5) in response to the numerous complaints and whinings posted on newsgroups at the end of his series. The basic idea is that one cannot bring together all the little plot threads and dangling ideas and please everyone.

      Here is a qote from Orson Scott Card that seems quite fitting;

      "...if you're going to criticize me for not finishing the whole thing and tying it up in a bow for you, why, do us both a favor and write your own damn book, only have the decency to call it a romance instead of a history, because history's got no bows on it, only frayed ends of
      ribbons and knots that can't be untied. It ain't a pretty package but then it's not your birthday that I know of, so I'm under no obligation to give you a gift."

      I am sorry if you missed the irony of the point. I had not seen the series very much in probably 2 years and feel that things were placed together nicely. The point of the show isn't to find the end-all-be-all timeline of every little plot point, but to be able to turn off the TV at the end and say to yourself "that was a good story". If that happened, then the author did his job..if not, then pick up the remote and move onto something else.

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  43. Wait a minute -- Wasn't this the Seinfeld finale? by dinotrac · · Score: 2, Funny

    The whole thing was eerily familiar, and then I realized why:

    The plot was pretty much the same as the Seinfeld series finale, right on down dragging assorted past characters into a trial that the star(s) can't possibly win.

    I guess no Kramer was a clue.
    But seriously, how much difference was their between Doggitt and the Soup Nazi?

    Oh well, at least Mulder ended up better than Jerry: He gets to get personal with Scully, whereas the best Jerry could do was Elaine.
    Unless, of course, he wanted to consider George.
    Not that there's anything wrong with that.

  44. Re:final....not by Peyna · · Score: 2

    Would it really be The X-Files if there was closure?

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  45. Re:I thought the final� was good. by Peyna · · Score: 2

    You make a good point; maybe they knew that many of us stopped watching the show a few years ago (seems so from the comments), and so they used the first hour to catch us all up on what we missed. It helped me follow along a lot better.

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  46. Bad news, good news by Picass0 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Bad news - The aliens take over the world on Dec 21 2012.

    Good news - If you're running linux on a 32 bit system you don't need to worry about the year 2038.

  47. The truth was already revealed... by Raunchola · · Score: 2

    If anyone owns the X-Files: Key of X soundtrack, the whole dang conspiracy is explained at the end of the CD's final track (around 10:13 or so). Some of us are already ahead of the game (and time zones I guess). :)

    Here's some more info on it.

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  48. Re: December 22, 2012 by MaxVlast · · Score: 2

    What I want to know is why an alien civilization that is so well-organized that it can know that it will be invading Earth in 2012 over a thousand years ago hasn't invaded in the meantime. The biggest outstanding question for me is what were they doing in the interim that took 1000 years, but was sufficiently planned and specific that they knew the day they would be ready to wrap it up and invade.

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  49. Once Again Duchovny Shuns Canada by FrankDrebin · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I found it ironic that Mulder once again shunned Canada (when he ignores the advice of Kerst to go North) -- although it's probably a bit of an inside joke by Chris Carter. The show's downturn is widely held as simultaneous to when production moved from Vancouver to Los Angeles. Talk about the thing "going south". Apropos for the final episode to follow the same pattern to it's ultimate conclusion.

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  50. Re: December 22, 2012 by ealar+dlanvuli · · Score: 2, Funny

    Isn't it obvious, they are clearing way for a new hyperspace bypass. It has been filed in the local planning office for 1000 years, and you didn't even bother to look?

    You really need to start taking a more active role in your gov..

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  51. Satellite? Bah! by T.Hobbes · · Score: 2

    I'm from Halifax, too. It was also shown on the cable-equivilent Global station (what used to be MITV; channel 6) 3hrs early.

  52. 2012=2003 by HanzoSan · · Score: 4, Interesting


    It all has to do with the mayan calender which translates to 2003 june.

    Theres alot of uh, lets call them, myths dealing with what will happen.

    The rapture, the planet niburu and aliens coming for the choosen people, all kinds of crazy stuff.

    Anyone who wants to see where the idea for this episodes ending or the so called truth came from, type "niburu orion group"
    or "niburu 2003" into google.

    You'll see all kinds of stuff about aliens taking over our government, and an invasion during june 2003, you'll see the mayan calender used as evidence, abductees claims, so called government officials claims, etc

    Its worth researching even if its just myths, theres still a 10 percent chance that it might actually be true.

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    1. Re:2012=2003 by HanzoSan · · Score: 2

      http://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfo19n.htm

      looks like people arent sure.

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    2. Re:2012=2003 by slickwillie · · Score: 2

      WOW! Based on this evidence, I'm going to sell everything and move to a dome shelter in northern Montana.

  53. Actually its June 2003. by HanzoSan · · Score: 2

    I actually researched this conspircy theory long before the Xfiles knew about it. Its been around for THOUSANDS of years and it traces back to the mayan calender.

    Which claims, 2012 in MAYAN years but our calender it is 2003 June.

    We use the gregorian calender.

    A guy by the name of Zecharia Sitchen

    This theory for the first time was backed up by evidence, in 1982 when planet X was discovered.

    IF any of this WAS true, our government would never tell us anyhow.

    So for now its still a rumor, myth, etc, wait until June 2003 (December 2012 on Mayan Calender)

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    1. Re:Actually its June 2003. by Anemophilous+Coward · · Score: 2

      I think the reference to 12/22/2012 is meant to be on the Gregorian calendar.

      As you responded later on, you seem to be a bit familiar with the Timewave Zero concept conjectured by Terrance McKenna. His timewave reaches zero right around that date(gregorian time). The date does not equate to Mayan 2012, but rather the end and restart of the Mayan calendar (kind of like when your cars odometer resets to all zero's).

      Supposedly something extremely 'novel' will happen on this date, possibly the convergence of everything in the universe into an Omega Point (much like a reverse Big Bang).

      I don't dispute that 2012 in Mayan = 2003 June on our calendar...just that I think they were making reference to the end of the Mayan calendar. Aliens taking over the planet and genociding the human race could be considered quite a 'novel' event in our history.

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  54. 2012 is actually 2003! by HanzoSan · · Score: 2

    For the third time! lol.

    The myth uses the MAYAN calender not the gregorian calender.

    2012 on the MAYAN calender is 2003 JUNE on the Gregorian calender which we follow.

    This means its 2011 right now, and it makes perfect sense for Xfiles to end their series here considering the whole myth of aliens that all abductees and stories have claimed ENDS at 2003.

    I mean what can they use for an ending after June 2003 that fits in with all the myths?

    I admit Chris Carter did his research, he just screwed up on the year translation.

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  55. According to all of the myths and theories by HanzoSan · · Score: 2


    By the way this isnt from the Xfiles.

    Aliens want earth and have taken over the government using the governments greed in an exchange Technology for freedom to abduct people.

    The Aliens could easily plan down to the date they'd invade considering how much simplier we are than them its not like we can stop them.

    The Myth claims the planet niburu enters our orbit in june 2003 (mayan calender 2012 december)

    Niburu is (planetX) rumored to have alien life on it.

    SO yeah it makes perfect sense to take over right when your planet enters the solar system.

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  56. 2012 MAYAN is 2003 Gregorian by HanzoSan · · Score: 3, Informative

    Yes thats next year.

    But everything else you said is on target.

    Niburu returns in 2003 June.

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  57. June 2003 by HanzoSan · · Score: 2

    June 2003 not december 2012.

    Unless you use the mayan calender instead of the gregorian and in that case the year is 2011

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  58. Dec 21, 2012 - Day of Reckoning by LittleGuy · · Score: 2
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  59. Re:Worst episode EVER. (spoilers) by King_TJ · · Score: 2

    Hmm... I didn't even bother to watch it (yet).
    I guess I'll get around to it, since I'm sure someone I know taped it. The last few seasons have gone downhill to the point where I lost interest in the whole show.

    This series went from "the best thing on TV!" to completely lame. Personally, I think Chris Carter just started running out of ideas after the first 3 seasons. The things that made X-Files great started slipping away, and things weren't revealed because Carter himself wasn't even sure how he was going to explain some of it yet.

    It used to be, every "mystery" ended up with a scientific explanation, or at least tied into the deep UFO conspiracy web somehow. When episodes started talking about astrology, psychics, devil worshippers, and so on - it fell into the abyss of B-rated horror films. I mean, anyone can create a show where people get eaten alive by some gruesome "half man, half monster". It's only really interesting if they come up with good reasons why the guy got that way. X-Files started failing to do this half the time. Episodes where these things tied into a complex, larger picture became scarce.

  60. Re:The final episode by King_TJ · · Score: 2

    No, I think sometimes you need to know when "enough is enough" and put an end to something before it dies off of its own stagnation.

    Carter has been working on several other projects, so it's not like X-Files is his only bread and butter. He could have been respected as one of the great sci-fi TV writers of all time if he had the common sense to bring X-Files to an exciting conclusion after it ran for 3 or 4 seasons.

  61. all I can say is... by geekoid · · Score: 2

    Thank God.

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  62. Interesting notes. by geekoid · · Score: 2

    2012 on the Mayan calender is 2003 in the gregorian calender, release date for this is 2003(tentative)

    moster of the week, you mean like night stalker?
    a tv series I loved as a kid.
    Of course XFiles has always been a night stalker clone.

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  63. Not the only scifi ending by Lord+Omlette · · Score: 2

    EFC ended Saturday night. I wonder if there was anyone still watching the show besides me?

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  64. Set Up for the Next Movie? by north.coaster · · Score: 2

    I thought that the whole thing was pretty hokey.

    One of the judges was an alien, but what of it?

    near the end, Skinner was called into his boss' office. So what?

    As others have mentioned, the trial was a waste of time.

    Muldur is left to continue seeking the truth. And they didn't even kiss!

    The only place where there was any real closure was with the CSM. I guess that he's really dead this time.

    But they left lot's of room for another movie. Hmm....

    /Don