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P2P Streaming Radio

sonicsft writes "RIAA, CARP, and streaming internet radio, oh my. Well these guys may have found a solution. With the tag line, pirate radio for the digital age, they've released a peer to peer streaming radio solution and claim that it is untracable/closable by the RIAA."

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  1. woop by on+by · · Score: -1

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    1. Re:woop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Redundant

      I heard about the battles between ACs and logged in trolls, and I always see
      the name "CLIT" come up. What does CLIT mean? is an acronym, or just the good
      ole clit as in "CLITORIS"?

      -56ker

      P.S. All of England is wishing Germany a good luck, beat the Brazillians.

    2. Re:woop by FreshPondPhil · · Score: -1

      BURGLARIES JUMP IN 104th PRECINCT
      Thieves Prefer Headlights On Nissan Maximas
      by Jennifer Stevens

      Driven by an upswing in burglaries, general crime rose 14 percent over the past 28 days in the 104th Precinct, Captain Peter Loehle informed at last Wednesday?s COP 104 meeting in Maspeth. ?Burglaries, which have been our number one nemesis all year, are up 20 percent year to date,? said the 104th?s commanding officer. ?However, in the past two weeks, they?ve gone down 10 percent and 36 percent respectively.? Captain Loehle assured the public that officers had made two very good burglary arrests this month, so this trend may reverse. One consisted of a 51-year-old male Hispanic who was arrested on Linden Place. Officers later learned that this man had a previous record for homicide in the 1979s. The second collar took place on 58th Avenue. Police nabbed a 41-year-old male Hispanic after they were able to obtain a fingerprint of his from a local garbage can.

      Two rapes took place in the last 28 days, but both perpetrators were known by their attackers. There have been six robberies in the last month, but the 104th made 15 collars for robbery last week alone, and robberies were down 36 percent that week. Grand larceny auto has risen slightly, as 59 cars have been stolen in the past 28 days. Grand larcenies are up 47 percent over the past 28 days. Captain Loehle reported that a lot of these larcenies consist of thieves stealing valuables out of people?s cars. The headlights on 2002 Nissan Maximas are hot items because they cost $800. In fact, five sets of these headlights were stolen in the past month, said Captain Loehle. The commander reported that the precinct was trying to come up with a way to mark the headlights, but no solution has been found yet. Loehle also urged people not to keep valuable items in their cars. There are also some scammers preying on individuals in the area. In one case, two African American women, 40-45 years old, target people on the street, saying that they?d found a pocketbook full of money, and want to share it with the victim. The victims are then asked to put up ?good faith money? from their own wallets or bank accounts before the thieves vanish with it. ?Beware of offers that sound to good to be true,? advised Captain Loehle.

      On the enforcement side, 42 summonses have been written in the past month for driving while using a cell phone in the 104th. Fifty-five speeding summonses were issued over the past month, and 113 summonses were given out to people for blocked driveways, which continues to be the number one complaint received by the quality-of-life hotline.

      Drag racing has been a major issue over the past few weeks, too. At Paige Place and Grand Avenue in Maspeth, the 104th has made nine felony collars and 37 misdemeanor collars, and has issued more than 500 summonses for illegal activity. Captain Loehle reassured the members of the community that any person caught drag racing would be arrested, and the car would be seized by the police.

      Gang info Detective Christopher Jones of the NYPD Gangs Division made a special appearance that evening to give a presentation on the history of gangs and educate the public on how to spot gang members. ?Gangs in New York are nothing new,? said Detective Jones. ?There were gangs in New York City as early as the 1850s.? There are approximately one million gang members in the USA, said Jones, and there are more than 35,000 separate gangs. The average age of a gang member is 18, and males dominate these groups.

      Gangs are generally out for the continued gain of quick cash and drugs, said Jones, but people join gangs for a multitude of reasons, i.e. peer pressure, attention, fear, curiosity, power and greed. Jones pointed out that there are many different ways to recognize a gang member, which include colors, clothing, accessories, symbols, graffiti, tattoos, grooming, nicknames, terminology, hand signs and rituals.

      To combat gangs, Jones said that the best course of action is community outreach programs and after school programs. He also mentioned that DARE (Drug Abuse Resistance Education) and GREAT (Gang Resistance Education and Training) were very good programs which seek to remedy the rising gang problems in this country. For more information, click here [aol.com]



      goatse does a body good!

      --

      --Mad propz to the homies cruisin the CVS parking lot.
    3. Re:woop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Community of Logged In Trolls, so you can call them CLIT or "those guys jealous of ACs", either works fine.

    4. Re:woop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      P.S. All of England is wishing Germany a good luck, beat the Brazillians.

      Sorry, but since the US is no longer a part of the World Cup, it doesn't exit anymore.

  2. how about source ? by mAIsE · · Score: 5, Insightful

    if you really want to set it free GPL it

    1. Re:how about source ? by Anonvmous+Coward · · Score: 1

      Somebody should write up a music version of GPL and propose it. There'll have to be a fee associated with listening to the music. It could be something like "You have 24 hours to listen to the song, after that you need to pay $1.00. That $1 means you have a license to listen to that song, in any format, with any device, for life."

      Then, if somebody creates a remix of the song, they re-license it so that part of the money goes to the original artist. So maybe that $1.25.

      Okay, I'm not the answer guy. My only point is that if somebody writes up a draft of it with all the basic problems solved and then publishes it, we may get an artist to start using it.

      Any muscially inclined people up for an experiment? I'll be first to buy a license.

    2. Re:how about source ? by hardcorejon · · Score: 2, Informative

      Check out OPENdj.

      It is my vision of this guys idea - but I have had opendj running from over a year ago.

      OPENdj's license is mostly Apache-ish, with some subprojects GPL'd due to GPL dependencies.

      - jonathan.

    3. Re:how about source ? by Hast · · Score: 4, Informative
      From the site:

      It's been GPL'd now, (mostly for my own personal safety). But please people, don't all do your own versions of it until I've had time to add some of the refinements I want to put in. Volunteer coders wanted please :-).

    4. Re:how about source ? by MindStalker · · Score: 1

      Untill you provide a windows binary, its not going to get the serious attention you obviously want.

    5. Re:how about source ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What a wanker. Let people own their hard work, lame-o.

    6. Re:how about source ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is GPLed you fool.

    7. Re:how about source ? by Mr.+Slippery · · Score: 1
      Somebody should write up a music version of GPL and propose it.
      It's called the free music philosophy. (Site seems to be down - here's the Google cache version.)
      --
      Tom Swiss | the infamous tms | my blog
      You cannot wash away blood with blood
    8. Re:how about source ? by JamesOfTheDesert · · Score: 2
      From http://www.chaotica.u-net.com/page/streamer.htm
      Download the source code

      It's been GPL'd now, (mostly for my own personal safety). But please people, don't all do your own versions of it until I've had time to add some of the refinements I want to put in. Volunteer coders wanted please :-).
      --

      Java is the blue pill
      Choose the red pill
    9. Re:how about source ? by pielud · · Score: 1

      It IS GPL'd, source is available

    10. Re:how about source ? by The+Mad+Cracker · · Score: 1

      If you really want to set it free and make variants non-tracable give it a BSD license.

    11. Re:how about source ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Burn in hell with Gates ane the RIAA you commie scumbag!

    12. Re:how about source ? by Eminor · · Score: 1

      if you really want to set it free GPL it

      It is GPL'd

    13. Re:how about source ? by akb · · Score: 2

      You fundamentally don't understand the GPL in associating what you said with it. Go read it and become educated before posting.

    14. Re:how about source ? by Anonvmous+Coward · · Score: 1

      I got a better idea: Assume I did read it and tell me why I'm wrong.

    15. Re:how about source ? by akb · · Score: 2

      The GPL allows anyone the freedom to make any use of a work provided derivative works are released under the same terms. The scenario you describe does not provide nearly that degree of freedom. With a GPL'd song, anyone would be able to sell it for any price they like and edit however they like w/o the need for consulting the original author.

      "if somebody writes up a draft of it with all the basic problems solved then ..."

      I laughed my ass off at the vacuousness of this statement. Gee, is that all? Someone just has to solve the basic problems. Why didn't I think of that.

  3. *BSD - onby's greatest hits vol. 1 by on+by · · Score: -1
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  4. oh yeah say it with me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    g to the oatse
    c to the izzex
    fo shizzle my nizzle im up mad late trolling

    1. Re:oh yeah say it with me by FreshPondPhil · · Score: -1
      That's funny, but you're not logged in. Plz Fx Thx

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  5. Dirty GNU/Linux Hacker Needs Luv by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    I use GNU/Linux and can't get a girlfriend, no matter what I do. From what I can tell, not too many of you have girlfriends either; I must make it clear right now that I do not want advice from you. I am seeking the advice of those who have consentual, regular, heterosexual intercourse with a well adjusted woman.

    You may be wondering why I placed so many restrictions on the type of sexual intercourse. Being a GNU/Linux user, I can get all the men I want, but my ass hurts from years of anal sex. I am tired of pillow-biting. I have met women at Linux User Groups (LUGs) but they didnt want sex the way I wanted it - they brought their strap on and rode my chute like the men did. The date would end with her taking me to a gay bar and selling my ass to a drunk and bearded kernel hacker.

    I am convinced, therefore, that I need to meet women that do not use GNU/Linux.

    I have tried dating regular women, but find it hard to make conversation. I was surprised that regular women do not give a shit about Free Software or the Microsoft monopoly which leaves me with nothing to discuss. Some women tried to talk about the weather, but I don't keep up with the weather from my mums' basement.

    I have had some success, I dated one girl several times. She picked me up from home, mum liked her. I am sure dad would have too, but he left us soon after I installed Slackware on the family computer. I can still hear him crying and see him moping around the house, saying "I knew he was different; I could handle a gay son, but this .... a fucking GNU/Linux hippy". He sounded so defeated. She wanted to go to the beach, but my skin is not adjusted to the sun and my skin peels while at the beach. This was not a turn on for her and when she came back to my mum's basement that night we were going to have sex but the raw skin was too much for her.

    Going out at night for a meal can be difficult too; all restaurants refuse to serve smelly GNU/Linux hippies. The only place we can go for food is the McDonald's drive through, but she doesnt like waiting in her car in the heat of the day when I tend to smell the most. She doesn't like the stares she gets from the drive through staff.

    I could go on, but I won't. I seek advice.

    1. Re:Dirty GNU/Linux Hacker Needs Luv by 56ker+Fucker · · Score: -1, Troll

      You wanna get laid? stop masturbating and go out.
      Don't wank for a week, then on a weekend, bathe,
      dress up and go outside.

      Don't go to bars or clubs, and don't dress like a
      yuppie fag. Dress very manly, ironed clothes that
      fit you well (don't worry if you are fat, bald,
      or too hairy, women don't care much about it.)

      You need to feel the most confident in yourself,
      so make sure you look very good and are happy with
      how you are.

      After this, all you have to do is realize yourself
      as a man, a sexual being and as someone who deserves to mate with other humans of opposite sex.

      Don't worry if women look at you funny, if they
      disrespect you or if they don't react well to you
      initiation. All you should care about in this world should be yourself and your pride.

      If a woman disrespects you, talk back to her and
      don't let her get away with it. Women don't like
      wussies. But if she is nice to you, don't over do
      the niceness and flood her with gifts and buy
      her stuff. You want to give her sex and get sex
      in exchange, not to marry her.

      Finally, be willing to initiate conversations with
      women. Comment on what they are doing,and don't
      be shallow in your comments. Don't say "nice ass",
      say "is that an ivory bracelet"?

      Don't smile too much, don't talk too much, don't
      be loud, don't be timid.
      Do be a good conversationalist, take your turn to
      express your oppinions, and in her turn, compliment her on her oppinions.
      Be willing to ask questions about her, so to know
      her better, and be damn sure to remember her
      replies.

      Understand that there is a mutual interest in sex
      and relationship, so work extra hard to close the
      difference gap by conversing, exchanging ideas
      and knowing each other. The closer you are to her
      in personality, the closer you are sexing and she
      is to sexing you.

      Good luck in your endeavors, and make sure to mod
      down karma whores when you get mod-points.

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  6. Careful by undeg+chwech · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The developer should be careful

    "There's no listener count yet. To be added soon, along with stats to give some idea about the 'shape' of the data tree. "

    It should be kept 100% anonymous, if there's a hint that the data is available then "they" will go after it ... like the PVR which had unsed tracking software built in that the courts demanded was turned on.

    1. Re:Careful by on+by · · Score: -1

      It's astounding; Time is fleeting;
      Madness makes me troll. But listen closely...

      Not for very much longer.

      I've got to keep control.
      I remember doing the troll-warp
      Drinking those moments when
      The mod points would hit me

      And the ban would be calling...

      Let's do the troll-warp again.
      Let's do the troll-warp again.


      It's just Karma that's left.

      And a bitchslap to the right.

      Be logged in for the CLIT

      You bring your trolls in sight.
      But it's the crapflood thrust
      That really drives you insane.
      Let's do the troll-warp again.
      Let's do the troll-warp again.


      It's so dreamy, First Postness freed me.
      But you can't see me, at, minus one
      In another dimension, with crapflooding intention,
      A new story, F.P. won!


      With a bit of a mind flip

      You're into the troll slip.

      Your Karma will never be the same.

      You're spaced out on sensation.

      Like you're under sedation.

      Let's do the troll-warp again.
      Let's do the troll-warp again.


      Well I was scrolling down the page just a-having a drink
      When a troll of a post gave me an evil wink.
      It shook-a me up, it took me by surprise.
      It was an ASCII art, with the devil's eyes.
      I stared at it and I felt a change.
      Karma meant nothing, never would again.


      Let's do the troll-warp again.
      Let's do the troll-warp again.


      It's just Karma that's left.

      And a bitchslap to the right.

      Be logged in for the CLIT

      You bring your trolls in sight.
      But it's the crapflood thrust
      That really drives you insane.
      Let's do the troll-warp again.
      Let's do the troll-warp again.

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    2. Re:Careful by on+by · · Score: -1


      Two may wink and his mouth filled my shitty ass!"

      Uncle Brian lunged forward. Dad's gaping, hungry
      hole!

      "How's that I should you shall poison more talk of nine.

      *JULIET*

      I hear true ground is no more summers wither in my mouth and by this once. What, ho! you and in the town
      Here lives in night;
      For I am for her mine.

      *FRIAR LAURENCE*

      Thou wast but riddling shrift.

      *ROMEO*

      Whither?

      *Servant*

      Madam, the air.

      *JULIET*

      Ay, ay, husband, friend!
      I drew on the earth,
      That pierced the vapors from love,
      An alligator stuff'd, and would say how a portly gentleman;
      And, being misapplied;
      And with a cup of cheveril, that name is not for you: I never after another, our entrance:
      But with some noise within; dear son
      It beats down by my hips upwards, the heaven, and the other. Thou! why,
      thou what a poperin pear!
      Romeo, will beshrew them down!

      *JULIET*

      What's here? a prince's doom?
      What curious eye discourses; I am the bed, within my humour not why I am laid low in his fingers around mine.

      "Yes, my shitty
      hand and his brow
      A parlous knock; and flies with
      yours too!"

      I gasped as upon

    3. Re:Careful by FreshPondPhil · · Score: -1

      Stealer's Wheel?

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    4. Re:Careful by on+by · · Score: -1

      rocky horror picture show

    5. Re:Careful by FreshPondPhil · · Score: -1
      Ah.

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      goats, it does a body good!

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    6. Re:Careful by hardcorejon · · Score: 1, Redundant

      Check out OPENdj.

      It is my vision of this guys idea - but I have had opendj running from over a year ago. It has had listener counting features (both for broadcasters and listeners) since its inception.

      An icecast server instrumented with expect scripts provides this service. Privacy is maintained in the sense that only the count of listeners is monitored, nothing is recorded such as IP address, length of connection, etc.

      OPENdj's license is mostly Apache-ish, with some subprojects GPL'd due to GPL dependencies.

      Check it out and tell me what you think.

      - jonathan.

    7. Re:Careful by MnementhVI · · Score: 1

      The listener count will be optional, under control of the broadcaster. The system doesn't have to be used anonymously by those that don't need to. There are better ways to optimise and stabilise a relay tree when stealth isn't a concern. I intended this thing to enable big webcasts that don't fall over because of server overloads, as well as it being a stealth broadcasting tool.

    8. Re:Careful by MnementhVI · · Score: 1

      1 - Streamer got /.'ed first (hehehe) 2 - The OpenDJ thing isn't really same as streamer at all. It uses big central servers to provide the bandwidth (and is therefore open to riaa lawyer attack), Streamer uses a p2p relay system. OpenDJ isn't about stealth, Streamer is all about stealth. 3 - OpenDJ is more reliable than Streamer (for now).

  7. Does this mean by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Radio audio-quality recordings? ;)

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  9. Nice idea... where's the source? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Or do we get burned again like with kazaa?

  10. BSD-licensed pop videos by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd like to see some *original* content put on-line, freely distributable.

    E.G. (get permission to, then) video the singers, etc, at your local bar, and put it on-line in the new OGG video format, (once it's finished), and license it under the BSD licence. The performer would get well known, and go on to sell tickets to future live performances.

  11. My Turkey Baster Pregnancy With Hemos by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    I am a lesbian, deeply involved with a woman of lusty beauty such as most men will never know. Her hair is short and blonde. Her face is bold, with a nice sexy square jaw. She has small breasts, and muscular arms and legs, and even a slight hint of a six-pack. Just the mere thought of her body gets my juices flowing.

    She and I have been carpet munching for well over five years now. We love each other deeply, but it seems we've reached an impasse in our relationship. Every night, I lick and I lick and I lick. I finger, finger, finger. I also get the attention back with all sorts of creative ideas from my partner. Everything from dildos, to finger paints (when I am on my period), to meat tenderizer. However, no matter how much sexual gratification we exchange, it seems to be wearing down.

    One day, while surfing on Slashdot, I learned about an interesting technique involving a turkey baster. The basic idea is that you fill a turkey baster with semen, then insert that tool into the vagina, and squeeze out its contents. With this in mind, I contemplated the idea of getting pregnant with this method, and having a baby with my partner.

    I approached my beautiful mate and asked her if she wanted to have a baby. Her face lit up! She seemed to be excited; imbued with new life! However, the euphoria rapidly dissipated when she came to the realization that she did not possess the proper equipment to get me pregnant. I quickly responded that "indeed you do have the right equipment! It's in the kitchen, I'll show you." Promptly, we waltzed into the kitchen and out of a drawer, I produced the turkey baster that would bring a new life into this world.

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    Over the next few weeks, signs of something unusual began to show. As it turns out, I was not only pregnant, I had herpes too. Fucking Hemos! My life was turned upside down, but that story is for another day...

  12. portman - onby's greatest hits vol 1. by on+by · · Score: -1


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    1. Re:portman - onby's greatest hits vol 1. by TrollBurger · · Score: -1

      Thats just so fucking stupid that I love it! :)

  13. Hey, this reminds me by JoeShmoe · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Remember that swarmcast technology that was on Slashdot a while ago? Basically everyone on Slashdot tried downloading some 350MB file of audio clips from a conference and everyone who was downloading was uploading at the same time and so the end result was that the more people who downloaded, the faster the downloads went for everyone.

    I'm guessing this is sort of the same kind of deal? How long until we modifies this to share "recipies"? ;)

    - JoeShmoe

    .

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    1. Re:Hey, this reminds me by xiangpeng · · Score: 1

      It is already used in eDonkey, a rather popular sub-p2p program. The true p2p version, Overnet is currently in beta.

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    2. Re:Hey, this reminds me by Hast · · Score: 1

      Swarmcast use a rather more advanced way of distributing the files than eDonkey. Instead of just downloading a part of the file the file is coded to make it easier to get all the parts you need.

    3. Re:Hey, this reminds me by Hast · · Score: 1

      And the "Overnet" link is just a placeholder graphic. Is there any information on the project besides three guys in ninja suits looking moronic? ;-)

    4. Re:Hey, this reminds me by MindStalker · · Score: 1

      Yes, at the www.edonkey2000.com site duh.
      BTW if you read stuff about "flock" its the same thing, thecy changed the name reently, personally I prefer flock.

    5. Re:Hey, this reminds me by Salamander · · Score: 2

      Swarmcast is cool, but it sounds like you're talking about BitTorrent.

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    6. Re:Hey, this reminds me by evilviper · · Score: 2

      All we need is for Gnutella to support searching by sha1 Hashes... Then, Slackware puts their latest ISO on Gnutella, and puts the SHA1 hash on their website.

      Just click on the gnutella:// link, and your Gnutella client is launched, and you start downloading the file from several of the fastest mirrors, and begin sharing it yourself.
      That's the ultimate way to distribute free software.

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    7. Re:Hey, this reminds me by jooon · · Score: 1

      That was BitTorrent, and although I am a big fan of it myself, it will suck at streaming audio, because you will most likely _not_ download the first part of the file first, which is really nice for that chronology correct streaming effect.

  14. Not So Likely by edthemonkey · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Just like any sort of encryption scheme or digital rights system, there's always a vulnerability, the human factor.

    Somehow, someone will figure out some sort of system or program to trace the stream to it's origin. They'd like to think it's secure/untraceable, but someone will find a way around it.

    1. Re:Not So Likely by HanzoSan · · Score: 2

      Thats why you run it on top of freenet or GNUnet to make it unstraceable.

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  16. This guy is begging to get sued by sterno · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The fact that this guy's website if expressly saying he's doing this to bypass carp is going to screw him in the long run. If he got taken to court and his most obvious defense would be to say that this was created to help independent artists broadcast their music. Then the judge will look at the pages from his website and that defense will be dead right away.

    If you're going to try to take on the system, try to do it in an intelligent manner.

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    1. Re:This guy is begging to get sued by hardcorejon · · Score: 1

      It is not an indefensible position. This is just a piece of software. The fact that it may be used to stream copyrighted content does not mean that it is illegal. Certainly many forms of talk radio do not infringe on anyone's copyrights.

      For the record, OPENdj has been doing this "P2P streaming" stuff for over a year.... and is open source software

      - jonathan.

    2. Re:This guy is begging to get sued by miffo.swe · · Score: 1
      Thats very much a possibility but if this becomes an open protocol that doesnt matter. The technic used makes it possible to distribute the delivery onto thousands of computers. To sue thousands of users is much harder than to sue one single person or a company. This is probably the way to go next to keep music free. Next thing is that isp's are forced to filter such things. By then we tunnel with heavy encryption instead.

      One thing i really do miss though is an independant p2p network that only deals with noncopyrighted music. I feel that i would be more comfortable with music that wasnt pirated and perhaps better and less ironed out to suit everybody.

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    3. Re:This guy is begging to get sued by mindstrm · · Score: 2

      That is true, however, if they can show his intent was to produce something to circumvent a law... which is what the original poster is talking about, he'll have a hard time making a case for himself.

      It's like if The CSS case.. they claimed they wanted to write a dvd player. Okay, they lost the case anyway, but if their website had said "Cool! Now we can copy all our DVDs and fuck and ignore the stupid RIAA morons." it would have been even harder to try to claim, right?

  17. Isn't this multicasting? What's the difference? by linuxbaby · · Score: 1
    Companies like on-the-i.com are already doing this and calling it multicasting.

    Anyone know the difference?

    1. Re:Isn't this multicasting? What's the difference? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Multicasting is not supported on the internet at large, and probably never will due to billing issues ... other than that its a good solution to the problem, puts it where it needs to be ... at the routers. In a way this method is multicasting through an overlay network (with nodes functioning as routers).

  18. PUSSY DICK GOATSE QUEEF ANUS FAMILY JEWELS COLON 6 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
    DR. LUNIX TORVALDS
    TEL: 234 8023132472, FAX: 234 - 1 - 7595586
    HELSINKI, FINLAND


    Dear Sir,

    I write you this letter of request for partnership which I hope you will give your urgent attention. We worked as members of the Operating System / Penguin Abuse Committee inaugurated by the present Democratically Elected Committee of the Electronic Frontier Foundation headed by General Richard Stallman (rtd). We are empowered to diligently review, re-appraise, scrutinize and approve feces payments to Linux users who executed *BSD devils under the past operating system regime and our work is almost concluded.

    In the course of our work we discovered this fecal matter, which resulted from grossly over-used toilets, which were executed for the GNU is Not Unix Corporation (GNU) by a consortium of several Foreign Companies such as:

    VA SOFTWARE, RED HAT, INC., SUSE GMBH. AND A JOINT VENTURE OF MANDRAKE AND CALDERA GMBH FOR:
    [1] THE EXPANSION OF THE FECAL NETWORK WITH LINUX USERS' FECES AND DOWNSTREAM PRODUCTS DISTRIBUTION AND SUBSEQUENT EVACUATION. [2] CONTRACT FOR THE TURN AROUND MAINTENANCE (TAM) OF THE VARIOUS PENGUIN FECES FARMS IN THE COUNTRY. [3] THE CONSTRUCTION OF STORAGE TANKS FOR LUNIX PRODUCTS (SEMEN).
    This amounts to the tune of 100 tons of fecal matter, but was over-invoiced to 150 tons of feces. And we deliberately approved these fecal deposits and all Lunix users have been paid with these penguins executed and since abused, leaving the large amount of Eric S Raymond's magnificent deposit floating in the escrow pool of the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) ready to be paid for the sexual services from the products in item number [2] as stated above. Before digressing further I would want you to know that our GNU General Public License forbids us from owning any money or having heterosexual relationships whilst in GNU service; hence we are contacting you to be part of this transaction.

    We intend to use your anus as a front to get the over-invoiced amount of 50 tons of feces out of the BSD sewers and into a designated toilet by you. Not regarding your field of specialization (sphincter expansion) you are going to forward us with any name that we will claim executed the sewaging services in the turn around maintenance of the Penguin fecal abuse farms mentioned above. All logistics are in place and all modalities worked out for the smooth insertion of the feces within ten to fourteen days of commencement after the receipt of a semen deposit from you. You are going to get 25% of the feces by posing as the owner of this fecal matter, while my colleagues and I will get 70% to ourselves with which we wish to invest in Agriculture and Farming in conjunction with you (and 5% will be set aside for the use of both parties for all excretions incurred locally and internationally during the realisation of this transaction, including toilet paper). As a matter of fact you are expected to take a sincere inventory of your toilet paper.

    It is imperative to let you know that I am also a keen scatologist, with qualifications world-wide.

    Despite research carried out to verify and ascertain your personality we can only move ahead if you can further assure us of your anal capacity and homosexuality and promise to help and treat this proposal with utmost confidentiality. We are men of proven integrity in our various fields who have put in 22 - 30 years of fecal matter in the toilets of our country; we are therefore averse to having our image and anuses widened. That is why we should acknowledge the fact that confidentiality is the key to the smooth insertion of this infection free transaction.

    Awaiting your earliest positive response.

    Best regards and remain blessed.

    DR. LUNIX TORVALDS
  19. Hmmm by Auckerman · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Windows Only + No source + one guy = Killable by RIAA.

    I'm not impressed.

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    1. Re:Hmmm by qubit64 · · Score: 1

      If TV has taught me anything.... (oops, forget the simpsons reference, TV=reading slashdot) it's that this guy's idea + win only + no source + one guy + killed by RIAA -> open source solution to this guy's idea

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    2. Re:Hmmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Windows Only + No source + one guy = Killable by RIAA.

      Do you realize that that description fits Gnutella's initial release almost perfectly? Aside from Gnutella being originally a Nullsoft "product" of sorts, there's really no difference in circumstances.

      I'm not saying it will necessarily be a success, but your criteria for not being impressed don't impress me.

    3. Re:Hmmm by EnemaSmurf · · Score: 2, Interesting
      True, but thankfully his meme will live on.

      It shouldn't take too long before people implement their own on other p2p platforms, such as PeerMetrics or JXTA. Relying on shoutcast is definitely a weak element in the solution. Sharing of connected peers shouldn't be transparent, too, as it leads to discovery of the stream source (the unreferenced node).

      <rant>Speaking of which, do people know of other good p2p platforms out there for implementing stuff like this? This idea and other good ones would have come sooner if only there were more good, generic p2p vectors. As is, everyone home-rolls their p2p apps, still, thus requiring different channels of distribution, different standards, yada yada. We need a platform that's like apache with mods.</rant>

    4. Re:Hmmm by EnemaSmurf · · Score: 1

      Oops. My mistake; following listed peers, discovery is traced by finding the node without references to a given stream.

    5. Re:Hmmm by GoatPigSheep · · Score: 1

      windows only has nothing to do with it, Decss was for linux and it still got someone in heaploads of trouble.

      No source just means the software won't be improved, but it would still be distributed.

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    6. Re:Hmmm by Cryogenes · · Score: 2

      Mod parent up, he has an excellent point.

      The source may not be free, but the concept is, and even if it gets shut down, it will be re-engineered by someone else.

      Same as gnutella which was also "shut down" by AOL/Time-Warner after they realized what it was doing.

    7. Re:Hmmm by Eythian · · Score: 1

      No source

      The source code should be under the link that says "Download the source code", however currently it is 404, but may be there sometime soon.
    8. Re:Hmmm by lightcycler · · Score: 1

      "Windows Only + No source + one guy = Killable by RIAA. I'm not impressed."

      Works on the most popular operating system for music-lovers. Works on the same operating system as kazaa, audiogalaxy, morpheus, limewire, napster, and almost all of the IM software.

      Full source, licensed under the GNU/GPL

      One guy, the same way GCC and EMACS was written by one guy. In fact, the same as most of the best software is written by one person, and all the dross is written by huge teams.

      Killable by RIAA to the same extent that any other GPL-licensed server application is killable by the RIAA, i.e. not at all

      And to top it all off, a great idea which looks to be immensely popular, and is applealing to a huge fanbase, if stats for kazaa installs are anything to go by.

      I'll be linking to this, and it won't surprise me to see it installed on every student's computer within a few months (or the start of term, rather.)

      Well done to the guy. Freenet for music.

    9. Re:Hmmm by FattMattP · · Score: 2

      Windows Only + No source + one guy = Killable by RIAA.

      If you'd have bothered to read the article you'd have seen that it does have source and it's licenced under the GPL.
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    10. Re:Hmmm by MnementhVI · · Score: 1

      Ooops...,uploaded to wrong place, sorry. The 'iainlib' bit is there now, so it should all compile nicely. Anyone who couldn't guess what the missing functions like 'fsLoadFile' did though doesn't deserve to compile it....

    11. Re:Hmmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Windows Only + No source + one guy

      Shows ignorance, a LOT of projects start this way even if the project isn't a great success it can still pave the way for better projects and gives us (developers) a stepping stone in the fight against the RIAA.

      I've also noticed a lot of people call for open-source here, well.. some of you try to justify these calls on security grounds... BULLSHIT.. a LOT of u just want to steal someone elses clever project and hard work before it's too recognizable as their concept/work. - If you're so adamant that every project should be open source before it's even been through proper alpha testing, it's time you started coding from scratch instead of nagging people to expose their projects, making them even more vulnerable before development and security measures have been put in place. Open-sourcing too early can be disasterous to projects. Shame the source-greedy of you don't see that!!

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  23. onby's greatest hits vol.1 by on+by · · Score: -1
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  24. I'm sorry by maroberts · · Score: 1

    .....but thse guys are just begging to be done over.

    Making statements like that just invite the RIAA to sue their asses, wave these statements in court and walk home with a self satisfied smile on their faces as they drag the asses of these people in chains behind them.

    --

    Donte Alistair Anderson Roberts - hi son!
    Karma: Chameleon

    1. Re:I'm sorry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's the RIAA going to do? He's not american.

  25. All it does is crash by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As soon as I try to view the stations the streamer exe bombs. Don't bother downloading this pos if you run wk2.

    1. Re:All it does is crash by pyrote · · Score: 1

      actually i tried it on XP and 98se, both same bomb, but by looking at the streamer 'dos' box, it looks like it's getting crap for station names.
      actually more of un ciphered kanji text.. anyone who actually gets this working re to this.

      you know it kinda loks like the forst 100+ lines of a CUCME server room list...which annoys me there too (but doesn't crash)

      -
      Hey I gave you a nickle, give me my 3 cents back!

      --
      THE WORLD IS GOING TO END!!!! eventually.
  26. gpl it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    doesn't gpl'ing the program give it unlimited rights to distribute the program? if riaa messes with a gpl'ed program, doesn't the gnu foundation get involved?

  27. ghostsebusters! onby's greatest hits volume 1 by on+by · · Score: -1

    If there's somethin' strange and you can't get wood
    Who ya gonna call (goatsebusters!)
    If its asshole's wide an' it won't look good
    Who ya gonna call? (goatsebusters!)

    I ain't afraid a no goatse
    I ain't afraid a no goatse

    If you're seein' Rob sucking on some head
    Who can you call? (goatsebusters!)
    An' anus stretched man sleepin' in your bed
    Oh who ya gonna call? (goatsebusters!)
    I ain't afraid a no goatse
    I ain't afraid a no goatse
    Who ya gonna call? (goatsebusters!)
    If you're all alone playing with your bone
    Just call (goatsebusters!)

    I ain't afraid a no goatse
    I hear it likes the cock
    I ain't afraid a no goatse
    Who you gonna call? (goatsebusters!)
    Mm...if you've had a dose
    Of a freaky goatse anus
    You better call goatsebusters!
    Fistin' makes me feel good
    I ain't afraid a no goatses

    Don't get caught alone oh no...goatsebuster
    When he cums on your floor
    Unless you've just got some more
    I think you better call goatsebusters!
    Ooh... who you gonna call? (goatsebusters!)
    Who you gonna call? (goatsebusters!)
    Ah, I think you better call (goatsebusters!)

    I can't hear you...(goatsebusters!)
    Who you gonna call? (goatsebusters!)
    Louder goatsebusters!
    Who you gonna call? (goatsebusters!)
    Who you can call goatsebusters!...(till fade)

  28. Mirror...in case site gets slashdotted by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Streamer - pirate radio for the digital age

    I'm publishing this in response to the closing of Audiogalaxy and the imminent closure of many net radio stations at the hands of the RIAA and CARP. This can't be closed. I never did like bullies.

    Streamer is an internet radio program that allows anyone to broadcast streaming mp3 music, to an unlimited number of listeners, from an internet connection as humble as a 56k modem, and with the broadcasting pc being fairly untraceable.

    It works by relaying the mp3 data stream from one listener to the next, forming a branching tree with the broadcasting pc at the base. This is different to the normal method where all the listeners connect to a central server, and it means you don't need lots of server bandwidth. There is also no limit to the number of listeners, since each new one provides more relay bandwidth to the network.

    It's also fairly untraceable because each streamer 'host' doesn't reveal any information about whether it is actually the transmitter or not, or where it is getting it's signal from. And I plan to make it completely untraceable for broadcasters who wish. Tax that CARP!. I hope you get the idea.

    This is a beta version, work in progress. There's no clever network optimisation yet, or stuff to handle when listeners leave without disconnecting other downstream listeners. You are likely to get disconnections for large audiences. It definitely works ok for half a dozen or so people though, all using 56k modems. Enough to play your tunes to your mates :-)

    Download streamer.zip
    Check for updates regularly please, it doesn't happen automatically yet.

    To install it:
    Unzip streamer.zip into a new folder somewhere. It doesn't actually need 'installing'.

    To use it: (quick guide)
    Run 'streamer.exe'. You will see a DOS-type window, (this will be changed, but it's a beta for now). Your web browser should open, showing 'Streamer p2p relay radio', and a menu. If this doesn't happen, click on the file 'web', or 'web.url'.

    Click 'configure'.
    Set your internet connection speeds for upload and download, in kilobits (not bytes) per second. Examples: 512 & 128 for cable, or 56 and 33 for a 56k modem. Setting these too high will make streamer unreliable, too low will inhibit growth of the distribution network, and limit the choice of streams available. You can leave the default settings for now if you wish, it will still work.

    Click 'Stations'.
    If anyone on the network is broadcasting, their station name should show up in this list. Refresh the page if nothing shows up at first. If I am online and broadcasting, the station 'Mnementh's Disco' should appear. (MnementhVI or MnementhVII are my p2p user names).

    Click on a station name to tune in.
    The mp3 player installed on your pc should then open and connect to streamer. Winamp works fine, windows media player doesn't. If that opens, close it, start winamp, and drop the 'sound.pls' or 'sound' file onto it.
    Streamer will ask the streamers on other pc's that it knows about for the audio stream, and eventually you should hear sound. It can take a couple of mins for the sound to start playing though, because of a bug. Be patient please. When Streamer is receiving data, rows of numbers scroll up in it's display. These show the state of blocks of data in the receiving buffer, are so I can see what's happening inside.
    And that's it, music should flow within a couple of minutes. Let's start a broadcasting revolution!. A CARP-proof one!.

    How it works

    Streamer forms a decentralised network, making short lived connections with many other hosts to ask them individual questions. This is different to p2p systems like gnutella which makes semi-permanent connections to a few other hosts. Some questions streamer asks are 'tell me some other hosts you know about', 'tell me some broadcasting stations you know about'. If there is no reply, that host's 'not answering' count is incremented, and eventually it gets removed from the list. If an answer does arrive, the returned data is either added to the 'known hosts' list, or the 'known stations' list. There is a background flux of network messages, about 0.1k/sec or so, much less than gnutella.
    You can add the IP of a host from the 'hosts' screen. The IP of my home PC is automatically added to the list each time you run streamer, and it remembers hosts from last time you ran it. Refersh the page to see hosts gradually appearing. All the extra numbers in the display are for debugging, you can ignore them. 'nr=' is the number of times that host has not replied. After a while Streamer stops asking dead hosts questions, and removes them from it's list.

    Streamer keeps a list of stations it has learned about during each run. This list is cleared each time you run streamer, in order to prevent 'dead' stations hanging around forever. (which they can still do though, the station cache system needs improving). When you click on a station name to tune into it, streamer starts asking hosts that are also tuned the same station to send it the data stream. It also tries to collect more hosts who are also listening to that station.

    Click 'tuning' to see the progress of seeking for a data feed. This page shows the name of the station you are seeking, and if you have a signal yet.

    Streamer uses Winamp (or any other icy-200 mp3 streaming receiver) to actually listen to the mp3 data that it's receiving. No point re-inventing the wheel. Streamer is really just a method of shovelling the data around the network. It could distribute any kind of data stream, or even broadcast files.

    If you are not actually listening to a station, running streamer on your pc will still help with network stability. It only uses a small amount of background bandwidth.

    It uses three ports. 8462 to connect to winamp for output, or the plugin for input. 8464 for the web interface, and 8466 for all the main network traffic, which is all UDP to avoid that annoying TCP 'ack bottleneck' traffic jam.
    '8466' is 2112 in hex, which I thought was an appropriate number. An audiogalaxy user posted a message on the AG site after the RIAA shutdown, saying the words 'We have assumed control, we have assumed control' where going round in their head. I prefer the words 'And the meek shall inherit the earth'.

    To be a broadcaster.
    It's quite simple. First you need something to create the mp3 data stream. I'm currently using the shoutcast dsp plugin for winamp. It's another wheel, although for copyright reasons I should probably create my own plugin to do the same thing. Get it from www.shoutcast.com. You have to sign their licensing stuff I think to download it. Anyone care to write a replacement plugin for streamer to use please? You may need an old version of the plugin to do very low bitrate streams.

    Install the plugin, configure it to output to port 8461 (or maybe 8460, or 8462). Choose your mp3 format.
    Remember that for the relaying system to work properly, each relaying pc needs to be able to upload 2 copies of the data stream, so don't go mad with the bitrate. My cable modem can do 128k up, so the max bitrate should really be just less than 64k if you are aiming for cable users. You need to allow some overhead for data resends, and general network traffic.

    For 56k modem users, the best you can really do is 3kbps or so. My 56k modem can't even manage that, although they should do 33kbps up. Even this bitrate can only be relayed by a modem to one other pc, so you really need some helpful high bandwidth listeners to distribute the signal. I use an old version of the plugin for modem use, because the current one doesn't offer a low enough bitrate.

    Next, edit the 'sblurb.dat' file. It's just a text file for your station's blurb, and shows up on the 'text' page in the browser view. Keep it less than 450 characters or so.

    Run streamer, goto the 'configure' page. Edit your stations name and stream id, and substream 1's bitrate to match what you set in the plugin. Any number except 0 is ok for stream id. It's what streamer actually searches for when attempting to tune in. Set the data type to 'mp3'. This should happen automatically, but doesn't actually seem to.

    Click the connect button on the plugin, and it should connect to streamer and start sending data. The 'tuning' page should then show your station's name, and 'on air' at the bottom. The song name stuff doesn't work yet.

    Whenever other hosts ask for more stations, your streamer will now always send your stations name & info, so it should spread around the network. This isn't a very good method though, and low listener stations may be hard to find. To assist in station info propagation, all listeners also always send their current tuned station's info, so popular stations should be easier to find. Doing this compremises the anonimity slightly, so I'll probably take it out for stealth broadcasters.

    You can 'stack' several streamers on one pc. Make a separate folder for each, and run them with command line 'streamer.exe 1' to add 10 to each port number, or 'streamer.exe 2' for 20, etc. Stacking is useful for testing your radio station. To tell one local streamer about another local one, enter 127.0.0.1:8466 on the 'hosts' page. Change the '8466' to '8476', or whatever is appropriate. If you enter no port number, it defaults to 8466. (There seems to be a daft bug with the port numbers sometimes though).

    There's no listener count yet. To be added soon, along with stats to give some idea about the 'shape' of the data tree.
    I also plan to add the ability to switch broadcasting pc's, so one dj can take over from another.

    So what do you think? email iain@chaotica.u-net.com or icq 32952155

    Or alternatively - try my psychedelic arcade game 'Spheres of Chaos'

  29. favorite things - onby's greatest hits volume 1 by on+by · · Score: -1

    crapfloods and trolling and raping small kittens
    nice wider pages and wanking with mittens
    turd report packages tied up with strings
    these are a few of my favorite things

    grits covered portman and ASCII art doodles
    ACs and CLITers and Katz sex with poodles
    wild trolls that fly with plus five mod scoring
    these are a few of my favorite things

    when the ban hits, when I can't post, when I'm feeling sad
    i simply remember my favorite things
    then i don't feel so bad

    Rob Malda chugs penis in fan fiction slashes
    taco snot over my nose and eyelashes
    BSD dying and that goatse ring
    these are a few of my favorite things

    grits covered portman and ASCII art doodles
    ACs and CLITers and Katz sex with poodles
    wild trolls that fly with plus five mod scoring
    these are a few of my favorite things

    when the ban hits, when I can't post when, I'm feeling sad
    i simply remember my favorite things
    then i don't feel so bad

    yeah! yeah!

    1. Re:favorite things - onby's greatest hits volume 1 by FreshPondPhil · · Score: -1
      Damn that's catchy...

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  30. SUPERCALAFRAGELISTICEXPIALADOCIOUS by FreshPondPhil · · Score: -1

    BURGLARIES JUMP IN 104th PRECINCT
    Thieves Prefer Headlights On Nissan Maximas
    by Jennifer Stevens

    Driven by an upswing in burglaries, general crime rose 14 percent over the past 28 days in the 104th Precinct, Captain Peter Loehle informed at last Wednesday?s COP 104 meeting in Maspeth. ?Burglaries, which have been our number one nemesis all year, are up 20 percent year to date,? said the 104th?s commanding officer. ?However, in the past two weeks, they?ve gone down 10 percent and 36 percent respectively.? Captain Loehle assured the public that officers had made two very good burglary arrests this month, so this trend may reverse. One consisted of a 51-year-old male Hispanic who was arrested on Linden Place. Officers later learned that this man had a previous record for homicide in the 1979s. The second collar took place on 58th Avenue. Police nabbed a 41-year-old male Hispanic after they were able to obtain a fingerprint of his from a local garbage can.

    Two rapes took place in the last 28 days, but both perpetrators were known by their attackers. There have been six robberies in the last month, but the 104th made 15 collars for robbery last week alone, and robberies were down 36 percent that week. Grand larceny auto has risen slightly, as 59 cars have been stolen in the past 28 days. Grand larcenies are up 47 percent over the past 28 days. Captain Loehle reported that a lot of these larcenies consist of thieves stealing valuables out of people?s cars. The headlights on 2002 Nissan Maximas are hot items because they cost $800. In fact, five sets of these headlights were stolen in the past month, said Captain Loehle. The commander reported that the precinct was trying to come up with a way to mark the headlights, but no solution has been found yet. Loehle also urged people not to keep valuable items in their cars. There are also some scammers preying on individuals in the area. In one case, two African American women, 40-45 years old, target people on the street, saying that they?d found a pocketbook full of money, and want to share it with the victim. The victims are then asked to put up ?good faith money? from their own wallets or bank accounts before the thieves vanish with it. ?Beware of offers that sound to good to be true,? advised Captain Loehle.

    On the enforcement side, 42 summonses have been written in the past month for driving while using a cell phone in the 104th. Fifty-five speeding summonses were issued over the past month, and 113 summonses were given out to people for blocked driveways, which continues to be the number one complaint received by the quality-of-life hotline.

    Drag racing has been a major issue over the past few weeks, too. At Paige Place and Grand Avenue in Maspeth, the 104th has made nine felony collars and 37 misdemeanor collars, and has issued more than 500 summonses for illegal activity. Captain Loehle reassured the members of the community that any person caught drag racing would be arrested, and the car would be seized by the police.

    Gang info Detective Christopher Jones of the NYPD Gangs Division made a special appearance that evening to give a presentation on the history of gangs and educate the public on how to spot gang members. ?Gangs in New York are nothing new,? said Detective Jones. ?There were gangs in New York City as early as the 1850s.? There are approximately one million gang members in the USA, said Jones, and there are more than 35,000 separate gangs. The average age of a gang member is 18, and males dominate these groups.

    Gangs are generally out for the continued gain of quick cash and drugs, said Jones, but people join gangs for a multitude of reasons, i.e. peer pressure, attention, fear, curiosity, power and greed. Jones pointed out that there are many different ways to recognize a gang member, which include colors, clothing, accessories, symbols, graffiti, tattoos, grooming, nicknames, terminology, hand signs and rituals.

    To combat gangs, Jones said that the best course of action is community outreach programs and after school programs. He also mentioned that DARE (Drug Abuse Resistance Education) and GREAT (Gang Resistance Education and Training) were very good programs which seek to remedy the rising gang problems in this country. For more information, click here [aol.com]



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  31. I Write the Songs - onby's greatest hits vol.1 by on+by · · Score: -1

    I WRITE THE SONGS

    I'd been a fag forever
    When I raped my very first boy
    I put my cock and the boys ass together
    I am Jon Katz, and I love big dongs

    I suck the dongs that make the whole world cringe
    I suck the dongs of boys and lick their rings
    I suck the dongs so hard the young boys cry
    I suck the dongs, I suck the dongs

    My cock lies within you
    And I've got my own place in your hole
    Now when I spurt out through me eye
    I'm young again, even though I'm very old

    I suck the dongs that make the whole world cringe
    I suck the dongs of boys and lick their rings
    I suck the dongs so hard the young boys cry
    I suck the dongs, I suck the dongs

    Oh my Katz spooge makes you dance
    Might give you AIDS so take a chance
    And I touched your cock 'n' hole so you can spooge
    Hot spooge fills my mouth, well that's a real fine place to start

    It's from me it's for you
    It's from you, it's the best
    It's a world wide NAMBLA-fest

    I suck the dongs that make the whole world cringe
    I suck the dongs of boys and lick their rings
    I suck the dongs so hard the young boys cry
    I suck the dongs, I suck the dongs

  32. Seems to work... by David+P · · Score: -1

    I've got a stream going now from the author (@ 16kbs, though). I had to try a few times to get it to stop crashing when viewing servers.

    I've yet to get it going as a server, though. It crashes when Shoutcast tries connecting.

    BTW, I'm running WinXP.

    1. Re:Seems to work... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      BTW, I'm running WinXP.

      That is obviously your only problem... I mean, it couldn't be the software!

      You ought to consider switching to Linux.

  33. Kermit - onby's greatest hits, volume 1 by on+by · · Score: -1

    why are there so many
    trolls on the Slashdot
    what's on the other sites?
    crapfloods are visions,
    trolls just illusions
    and IE is always to wide
    so we've been told and some choose to believe it
    i know they're wrong, wait and see...

    someday we'll find it,
    the Slashdot connection
    crapflooders, the trollers, and me

    who said that every post
    would be first and revered
    when wished on the morning star?
    somebody thought of that
    and someone believed it
    look what it's done so far
    what's so amazing that keeps us refreshing
    just so we get that F.P....

    someday we'll find it,
    the Slashdot connection
    crapflooders, the trollers, and me

    all of us under its spell
    we know that it's probably tragic

    have you been refreshing
    and have you heard voices?
    i've heard them calling my nick
    is this the sweet sound
    that calls the young trollers?
    it may be one and the same

    i've heard it too many times to ignore
    it it's something that i'm s'posed to be...

    someday we'll find it,
    the Slashdot connection
    crapflooders, the trollers, and me

    la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la

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    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  35. what is up with /.ers ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    is saturday be-pessimistic-about-some-guy-doing-something-abou t-some-fuct-up-stuff day now?

    last week, when the prices for webcasting were made final, /.ers were bitching about 'the man' ... now they are bitching about some guy trying to make a difference?

    shit ... if i didn't read your posts on other threads, i'd think you're shagging the executive board members for the riaa and carp.

    sellouts.

    more power to the guy. just because it's not gpl doesn't mean it sucks. get a fucking clue already.

  36. CARP will love this... by Bartab · · Score: 1

    Instead of taxing one individual, they can tax every person on this network they find, since they are all transmitters.

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    1. Re:CARP will love this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fuck it... subpeana me all you want.. i dont have any money.. i'll write the cock suckers a check for their settlement.

    2. Re:CARP will love this... by flonker · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Not transmitters. Cache/proxy according to the DMCA.

  37. Very crash-prone. by echelon13 · · Score: 2, Informative
    I downloaded it, and noticed that the Streamer app would crash often when I loaded the "Stations" list. Looking at the log window, it seems that there have been stations set up with the intent of crashing the client.

    From what I've seen, this has potential. It's simply too buggy to be useful at the moment, though. It'd be nice if it was open-source, too. This guy is just setting himself up to be sued by the RIAA if this takes off...

    1. Re:Very crash-prone. by heimotikka · · Score: 1

      From what I've seen, this has potential.
      Seems like a real potential to risk your already vulnerable windows machine.

    2. Re:Very crash-prone. by The_Unforgiven · · Score: 1

      I had exactly the same problem, thanks for explaining.

      Eh, the proggie is buggy, but the idea's out there...

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  38. Insider's scoop: Why BSD is dying by pwpbot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    The End of FreeBSD ed note in the following text former FreeBSD developerMike Smith gives his reasons for abandoning FreeBSD When I stood for election to theFreeBSD core team nearly two years ago many of you will recall that it was after a long seriesof debates during which I maintained that too much organisation too many rules and too much formality would be a bad thing for the project Today as I read the latest discussions onthe future of the FreeBSD project I see the same problem a few new faces and many of the oldgoing over the same tired arguments and suggesting variations on the same worthless schemes Frankly Im sick of it FreeBSD used to be fun It used to be about doing things theright way It used to be something that you could sink your teeth into when the mundane choresof programming for a living got you down It was something cool and exciting a way to spend your spare time on an endeavour you loved that was at the same time wholesome and worthwhile Its not anymore Its about bylaws and committees and reports and milestones tellingothers what to do and doing what youre told Its about who can rant the longest or shout theloudest or mislead the most people into a bloc in order to legitimise doing what they think is best Individuals notwithstanding the project as a whole has lost track of where its going and has instead become obsessed with process and mechanics So Im leaving core I dont want to feel like I should be doing something about a project that has lost interest in havingsomething done for it I dont have the energy to fight what has clearly become a losing battleI have a life to live and a job to keep and I wont achieve any of the goals I personallyconsider worthwhile if I remain obligated to care for the project Discussion Im sure that Ive offended some people already Im sure that by the time Im done here Illhave offended more If you feel a need to play to the crowd in your replies rather than make asincere effort to address the problems Im discussing here please do us the courtesy of playingyour politics openly From a technical perspective the project faces a set of challengesthat significantly outstrips our ability to deliver Some of the resources that we need toaddress these challenges are tied up in the fruitless metadiscussions that have raged since wemade the mistake of electing officers Others have left in disgust or been driven out by theculture of abuse and distraction that has grown up since then More may well remain availableto recruitment but while the project is busy infighting our chances for successful outreach aresorely diminished Theres no simple solution to this For the project to move forwardone or the other of the warring philosophies must win out either the project returns to itslaidback roots and gets on with the work or it transforms into a superorganised engineeringproject and executes a brilliant plan to deliver what ultimately we all know we want Whatever path is chosen whatever balance is struck the choosing and the striking are theimportant parts The current indecision and endless conflict are incompatible with any sortof progress Trying to dissect the above is far beyond the scope of any parting shotno matter how distended All I can reallyask of you all is to let go of the minutiae for a moment and take a look at the big pictureWhat is the ultimate goal here How can we get there with as little overhead as possibleHow would you like to be treated by your fellow travellers Shouts To theSlashdot BSD is dying crowd big deal Death is part of the cycle take a look at yoursoft pallid bodies and consider that right this very moment parts of you are dying SeeIts not so bad To the bulk of the FreeBSD committerbase and the developer community atlarge keep your eyes on the real goals Its when you get distracted by the politickersthat they sideline you The tireless work that you perform keeping the system clean andbuilding is what provides the platform for the obsessives and the prima donnas to have theirmoments in the sun In the end we need you all in order to go forwards we must first avoidgoing backwards To the paranoid conspiracy theorists yes I work for Apple too No myresignation wasnt on Steves direct orders or in any way related to work Im doing may domay not do or indeed what was in the tea I had at lunchtime today Its about real problemsthat the project faces real problems that the project has brought upon itself You cantescape them by inventing excuses about outside influence the problem stems from within To the politically obsessed give it a break if you can No the project isnt a lemonadestand anymore but its not a worldspanning corporate juggernaut either and some of the moregrandiose visions going around are in need of a solid dose of reality Keep it simple stupid To the grandstanders the prima donnas and anyone that thinks that they can hold the projectto ransom for their own agenda give it a break if you can When the current core were electedwe took a conscious stand against vigorous sanctions and some of you have exploited thatA new core is going to have to decide whether to repeat this mistake or get tough I hope theylearn from our errors Future I started work on FreeBSD because it was funIf Im going to continue it has to be fun again There are things I still feel obligated todo and with any luck Ill find the time to meet those obligations However I dont feelan obligation to get involved in the political mess the project is in right now I tried Iburnt out I dont feel that my efforts were worthwhile So I wont be standing for electionI wont be shouting from the sidelines and I probably wont vote in the next round of ballots You could say Im packing up my toys Im not going home just yet but Im not going toplay unless you can work out how to make the project somewhere fun to be again

    -pwpbot

  39. Running in Linux with wine? by Joe+Tie. · · Score: 1

    Out of curiosity, anyone managed to get this working in wine? Everything seemed to be going fine on my try up to the point of picking a station, and at that point wine crashes.

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    1. Re:Running in Linux with wine? by pyrote · · Score: 1

      it's not wine....thats on all platforms.

      It's buggy and someone has random crap data crashing everyone who tries it.

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    2. Re:Running in Linux with wine? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Chink scribbles.

  40. CALLING ALL WOMEN! ARE YOU NOT FEELING *FRESH*? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    okay ladies, can the chatter and listen up.

    first, a few words about this homepage. i want to point out right away that if you are offended by blunt, uncensored talk; have no sense of humor about female problems; or are looking only for corporate-sponsored, FDA-approved information about yeast infections; you've come to the wrong place. please go directly to the Monistat homepage. do not pass go, do not collect $200. you really don't want to read any further.

    for the rest of us, i mean, YEAST. yeah, vaginal yeast infections are nasty and annoying, but for most wimmin most of the time, they aren't debilitating or life-threatening. so what's the big deal? well, to my mind, the conventional treatment of vaginal yeast infections is a nutshell of what's wrong with the way our society deals with wimmin's health issues. most of us treat a yeast infection by running to the drugstore, handing $20 to our corporate masters, and walking around miserable for days with disgusting slime dribbling down between our legs, not even sure if what we have is really a yeast infection. simple information on prevention and alternative treatments is ridiculously hard to find, in part because there's little profit in it and in part because men don't suffer from vaginal yeast infections. i'm hoping to help fill that gap, and to make a small contribution to the larger goal of helping wimmin take control of our bodies.

    wimmin also need to learn more about vaginal yeast infections, because there may be a problem brewing. here's the deal. a few years ago, the US government changed the rules so we didn't need prescriptions anymore to get ointments for yeast infections, and the drug companies started bombarding us with hype about their yeast infection products. suddenly everyone was hyper-aware of yeast infections. wimmin started assuming that every vulvar or vaginal itch they had was due to a yeast infection, and started filling their crotches full of powerful antifungal creams. but sometimes it wasn't really a yeast infection. the problem is that when you expose your naturally-occuring vaginal yeast to these drugs, some of the yeast may be resistant. only the resistant ones thrive and multiply. then, next time you get a yeast infection, you've got a crotch full of drug -resistant yeast, and you can't just run to the pharmacy and shell out $20 for a cure; you have to go to a doctor and get something much stronger. as much as 25-30% of yeast infections may now be resistant to over-the-counter treatments. bad, bad news, particularly for wimmin who have other health problems in addition to yeast. remember how penicillin used to be a miracle antibiotic, and then farmers started including it in cattle and chicken feed and people stopped finishing their prescriptions and every bacterium became resistant and now penicillin is a joke and can't kill anything? the same thing is happening with drugs for yeast infections. so i figure the more we know about yeast infections, the better we're able to make intelligent decisions about treatments and prevention.

    having said that, a word on what i am not trying to do here. this page focuses on symptoms, causes, and treatments for vaginal yeast infections in wimmin who are not immune compromised. i have only a smidge of information on genital yeast infections in men, almost nothing on yeast infections in women with HIV, and no information at all on systemic yeast infections. also, my information on the page is primarily aimed at wimmin living in the US, although most of the comments about causes and home remedies should be relevant for wimmin living in any industrialized country.

    what you'll find here

    yeast. ugh. if you've ever had a vaginal yeast infection, i don't have to tell you what misery life can be. if you haven't, well, rock on with your bad-ass self, girlfriend. if you're not sure, i've prepared a handy list of symptoms of yeast infections as well as other types of crotch rot to help you figure out if your crotch fits the bill. i've also compiled some stuff on the biology of yeast infections, mostly as it pertains to the more practical matter of causes and prevention. i've tried to include both those factors that are recognized by The Official Medical Establishment, and those that really do contribute but haven't yet been given the medical-science seal of approval.

    if you already know that your problem is yeast and you want to know what to do about it, well, we're here to help. as i see it, there are a number of options, depending on your personal philosophy, budget, and access to state-controlled medical resources. i personally always start with the do it yourself route, which is effective most of the time if you catch those little yeastie bastards early enough. if that doesn't work, i escalate to those nasty over-the-counter remedies that are sold in pharmacies. if that doesn't work, you probably have to get tough and go see a licensed physician to gain access to prescription treatments. i know, i know, it's awful, but that's the kind of society we live in.

    i have finally amassed enough information to create a small section that deals specifically with genital yeast infections in men. if you have a vaginal yeast infection and are having unprotected sex with a man, you should be aware that he could get your infection. check it out.

    also, for those of you don't trust homepages by ordinary citizens, i've assembled a list of yeast infection sites produced by the Medical Establishment, most of which are pretty lame, and a separate list of sites on sexually-transmitted diseases. i've also created a list of links to sites carrying information about pharmaceutical treatment of yeast infections. i'm sure you realize that most of these sites are created by people who profit from you buying their drugs and ointments, so you might want to exercise some caution in believing their hype. finally, although they don't pertain directly to yeast infections, there are some awesome wimmin's health resources on the web. i've put together a list of a few righteous sites that will teach you more about your anatomy, how to examine your own cervix, why tampons are dangerous, and lots lots more. definitely scope these out before the idiots on capitol hill make it illegal for you to use the web to get clear, straightfoward, first-hand information about your body.

    if you want to read the standard disclaimer, i've got one. i've also got a not-so-standard anti-copyright statement. check it out. finally, i'd like to thank my friends who helped me put this together.

    and that about wraps it up. hopefully by the time you've gotten through all the assembled information, your yeast problems will be solved, your crotch will be happy, and you'll be happy. enjoy.

  41. Doesn't avoid the ruling by E1ven · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This doesn't avoid "broadcasting" over the internet at all.
    Think about it, under this system, EVERYONE is broadcasting/webcasting and each USER would be required to pay the RIAA fee.

    This might be a decent system to spread the pain, however. If you only had to pay $.14/hour to listen to netradio (assuming you passed to two other people), that could be a very affordable rate.
    200 people could each afford to pay when they listen, rather than one station paying for everyone.

    Don't bill it as a circumvention device, bill it as a load-balancer for the internet.

    Colin

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    Colin Davis
    1. Re:Doesn't avoid the ruling by Balagan · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It also spreads the pain to the point where if the RIAA wants to sue then it is taking on its customers directly. It takes us another step towards the RIAA pissing off too many people, just enough so that the backlash starts in a big way. Connect a system like this with a donation network, a PAC, a legal defense fund, and more forms of action/advocacy... you might start to see congress understanding common sense just a bit more (or at least pretending to under threat of losing campaign dollars and votes).

    2. Re:Doesn't avoid the ruling by GrandCow · · Score: 3, Interesting

      This doesn't avoid "broadcasting" over the internet at all.
      Think about it, under this system, EVERYONE is broadcasting/webcasting and each USER would be required to pay the RIAA fee.

      No, it really does avoid that fee. The RIAA would probably be getting a stream from another user who is only streaming it to a few people. And since the rebroadcaster is only relaying data and not keeping track of their connection they can't say how many people are on at any given time. For all they know they are only broadcasting to the RIAA's computer and therefore should not have to pay (why should they have to pay the RIAA for broadcasting their data back to them?)
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      "Well kids, you tried your best, and you failed. The lesson is, never try." -Homer Simpson
    3. Re:Doesn't avoid the ruling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Think about it, under this system, EVERYONE is broadcasting/webcasting and each USER would be required to pay the RIAA fee.



      Right. Just like with CD burners, we are all music publishers and must obey laws that apply to studios. And with all of the pot going around, each distributor is a pharmaceutical company. Hint: it will be essentially impossible to prosecute individual users when they can easily just turn of their computer until the heat goes away.

  42. GUI.....eeek by pyrote · · Score: 1

    It scares me to think what any GUI for this would look like considering his HTML coding.

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    THE WORLD IS GOING TO END!!!! eventually.
    1. Re:GUI.....eeek by amanb · · Score: 1

      There's absolutely nothing wrong with his HTML coding. Its trivial to make it look pretty to satisfy the likes of you, but in its present state it fulfils it purpose of being a bare-bones interface to his program very well.

    2. Re:GUI.....eeek by pyrote · · Score: 1

      but green....I just hope he has one of his "mates" do up the release.

      Don't get me wrong, as soon as it doesn't dive under incorrect Server info, I'll use it no -matter how ugly it is....but greeen.

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      THE WORLD IS GOING TO END!!!! eventually.
    3. Re:GUI.....eeek by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hmmm... college people... lack of vision...
      youre an idiot

    4. Re:GUI.....eeek by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'll use it no -matter how ugly it is....but greeen.

      Said the slashdot reader ;-)

    5. Re:GUI.....eeek by MnementhVI · · Score: 1

      I wrote it, and I just happen to like green.

    6. Re:GUI.....eeek by pyrote · · Score: 1

      me too, but not so much....anyways, since I have your attentions, whats up with the bogus channel names? I'd love to use the program, but it crashes all the time.

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      THE WORLD IS GOING TO END!!!! eventually.
  43. Stephen King, author, dead at 54 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    I just heard some sad news on talk radio - Horror/Sci Fi writer Stephen King was found dead in his Maine home this morning. There weren't any more details. I'm sure everyone in the Slashdot community will miss him - even if you didn't enjoy his work, there's no denying his contributions to popular culture. Truly an American icon. He will be missed :(

  44. A least they are giving it a go by NewsWatcher · · Score: 2, Insightful

    A lot of the feedback (no pun intended) is that there are problems with this system. It won't work, it will be traceable, it isn't Linux compatible, there are bugs, the RIAA will catch them, blah blah bloody-blah.

    At least those guys are trying to come up with a system that will allow free, unfettered broadcasting over the internet. They are trying, and sure there are probably a million holes in their software at this stage, but hey, it never stopped Microsoft.

    I say give them our support, and see if we can't one day have a working P2P broadcast model that is free and untouchable.

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    If the pattern goes 9am, 10am, 11am, why isn't noon 12am?
    1. Re:A least they are giving it a go by FreshPondPhil · · Score: -1

      He ido de ser totalmente indiferente sobre radio del InM?S OSCURA"del i. Har?amos los ?lbumes de la compilaci?n pas are trying to come up with a system that will allow free, unfettered broadcasting over the internet. They are trying, and sure there are probably a million holes in their software at this stage, but hey, it never stopped Microsofrnte para escuchar ella. Comenc? a ir a las docenas de conciertos del LA a San Diego. Me pienso el a?o pasado marqu? 35 conciertos en cerca de 9 meses. ?Iba a ver bigass que las demostraciones de la arena que eran hyped por las estaciones de radio? Solamente en un pu?ado muy peque?o de casos como el viaje de Yahoo Outloud Weezer,s are trying to come up with a system that will allow free, unfettered broadcasting over the internet. They are trying, and sure there are probably a million holes in their software at this stage, but hey, it never stopped Microsof cuando fui a las demostraciones del LA y del SD. La mayor?a de las demostraciones que iba a eran demostraciones de la roca del indie y demostraciones locales peque?as. De todos modos, iba a estas demostraciones ESPEC?FICAMENTE porque las vendas no eran jugadas en la radio. La gente I encuentra incre?blemente talentoso como Ozma y los cabritos del levantar ser?n afortunados siempre tener un solo jugado en una estaci?n como KROQ. Yendo a todas las demostraciones hice y el escoger encima de ?lbumes de vendas que tuve gusto, yo puso no s?lo el dinero en sus bolsillos sino consigui? introducido a m?s vendas que puedo recordar f?cilmente. ?stas son vendas de algunos badass en mi opini?n pero no van a ser encontradas en la radio. Despu?s comenc? a conseguir en una materia m?s electr?nica pero nunca era realmente uno para la escena electr?nica. No puedo estar parado que ve a un manojo de individuos blancos del cornbread revving sus hornillas del arroz en porciones del estacionamiento. No es racismo o cualquier cosa, ?l las miradas justas est?pidas viendo a alg?n cabrito hecho frente pimply con su sombrero de Fred Durst con "accionado por una etiqueta engomada de VTEC" en el suyo ventana le?da. Narcotizados fuera de wannabes del raver no son exactamente para arriba en mi lista de afiliaciones sociales cualquiera. M?s bien que d?gales sean qui?nes quisieran que fueran yo apenas evitan la escena enteramente. De modo que me deje con ninguna parte para conseguir m?sica con excepci?n de Napster o algo. Es agradable ver si deseo pasar el dinero en un ?lbum pero la mayor?a de las canciones se registran mal en tambi?n el punto bajo de un ?ndice binario para mi gusto. Despu?s enciendo encima de iTunes en mi Powerbook y hojeo a las estaciones electr?nicas. ?Mierda santa! M?sica que no suena como asno cuando la tapo en mi sistema de los sonidos y no tiene un DJ necio el ser whack del wiggity en el aire. Cogida s?. Consigo no s?lo una buena corriente de la m?sica sino que tambi?n tengo una exhibici?n de qu? canci?n estoy escuchando en caso de que yo encontrarme a m? mismo interesada en el artista. Entonces hay el disponible bien escogido, si una estaci?n comienza adentro con algo que no lo hago como puedo doblar tecleo otro con una diversa corriente. La radio del Internet se ha convertido en la radio que he estado deseando por a?os. En un bloque de la hora consigo o?r el valor alrededor de de una hora de la m?sica, no 10 minutos de m?sica decente, 30 minutos de slop que no desear?a en mi enemigo peor y 20 minutos de los anuncios necios para la mierda no compro y DJs habr?a tirado algo en el sol ahora est? haciendo frente a una cierta oposici?n tiesa en la forma el RIAA y sus minions demonic. No deseo ver la radio del Internet ir abajo porque es la ?nica manera barata que tengo a la izquierda conseguir introducido a una cierta buena m?sica. El compartir con mis amigos es agradable pero no hay bastante variedad realmente a encontrar del extremo de la mierda I de la pared para arriba realmente que cava. La radio del P2P se parece como una soluci?n obvia debido a la cultura del buzzword del P2P que se afloja en fecha tarde. El modelo sin embargo funciona en problemas serios. El RIAA no tiene que ir despu?s de un solo individuo o el grupo de individuos a toma hacia fuera la radio del P2P como ?l pod?a con a los varios programas que compart?an. Todo lo que tiene que hacer debe hacer algunos repartos con el cable y los abastecedores del DSL. Deja la opini?n all? era una radio popular del P2P en mi ciudad, todo lo que tomar?a es un reparto o el pleito contra la carta y ?l ser?a tostado. todo el extremo para arriba con nuestra anchura de banda acortamos m?s que est? ya y radio del P2P terminar?a encima de prohibido espec?ficamente en el AUP. ?Cambie al DSL que usted dice? Deseo de mierda I. PacBell no podr?a encontrar sus dicks si no estaban en el extremo de sus brazos. Evne si el DSL era viable para alguna gente P2P r

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      --Mad propz to the homies cruisin the CVS parking lot.
  45. Hobos with shopping carts by Graymalkin · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I've gone from being completely indifferent about internet radio to being a huge fan of it in the span of about a year. I have not listened to broadcast music in a couple years now. Just about everything I listened to for a long time came out of my friends and I's CD pools. We'd make compilation albums for each other or just snag songs we particularly enjoyed from albums in each others collections. Broadcast radio has always been shit but recently it has been so bad I simply can't stand to listen to it. I began to go to dozens of concerts from LA to San Diego. Last year I think I tallied 35 concerts in about 9 months. Was I going to see bigass arena shows being hyped by radio stations? Only in a very small handful of cases like the Yahoo Outloud Weezer tour, when I went to the LA and SD shows. Most shows I was going to were indie rock shows and small local shows. Anyhow, I was going to these shows SPECIFICALLY because the bands weren't being played on the radio. People I find incredibly talented like Ozma and The Get Up Kids will be lucky to ever have a single played on a station like KROQ. Going to all the shows I did and picking up albums from bands I liked, I not only put money in their pockets but got introduced to more bands than I can easily recall. These are some badass bands in my opinion but they're not going to be found on the radio.

    Then I started getting into more electronic stuff but was never really one for the electronic scene. I can't stand seeing a bunch of cornbread white guys revving their rice burners in parking lots. It isn't racism or anything, it just looks stupid seeing some pimply faced kid with his Fred Durst hat with a "Powered by VTEC" sticker on his read window. The drugged out raver wannabes aren't exactly up on my list of social affiliations either. Rather than tell them they shouldn't be who they want to be I just avoid the scene entirely. So that leaves me with nowhere to get music other than Napster or something. It is nice to see if I want to spend money on an album but most songs are recorded poorly at too low of a bit rate for my taste. Then I fire up iTunes on my Powerbook and browse to the electronic stations. Holy shit! Music that doesn't sound like ass when I plug it into my sound system and doesn't have an inane DJ being wiggity whack on the air. Fuck yes. Not only do I get a good stream of music but I also have a display of what song I'm listening to in case I find myself interested in the artist. Then there is the choice available, if one station starts in with something I don't like I can double click another one with a different stream. Internet radio has become the radio I've been wanting for years. In an hour block I get to hear about an hour's worth of music, not 10 minutes of decent music, 30 minutes of slop I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy and 20 minutes of inane advertisements for shit I don't buy and DJs I'd rather have shot into the Sun.

    Now it is facing some stiff opposition in the form the RIAA and their demonic minions. I don't want to see internet radio go down because it is the only inexpensive way I've got left to get introduced to some good music. Sharing with my friends is nice but there isn't enough variety to really find off the wall shit I end up really digging. P2P radio seems like an obvious solution because of the P2P buzzword culture surging as of late. The model however runs into serious problems. The RIAA doesn't have to go after a single individual or group of individuals to take out P2P radio like they were able to with various sharing programs. All they have to do is make some deals with cable and DSL providers. Lets say there was a popular P2P radio in my town, all it would take is a deal or lawsuit against Charter and he would be toasted. We'd all end up with our bandwidth curtailed more than it already is and P2P radio would end up specifically forbidden in the AUP.

    Switch to DSL you say? I fucking wish. PacBell couldn't find their dicks if they weren't at the end of their arms. Evne if DSL was viable for some people P2P regulating would still happen on the DSL system. Even with a competitive DSL provider like Covad or someone, they're still renting a pipe from PacBell and the bandwidth usage will make them be regulatory asses too.

    P2P pirate radio is a noble idea I suppose, sticking it to the jackasses that are the RIAA but it is a short term solution to a long term problem. The RIAA has far too many lawyers on their side and enough backing to cow the major cable and DSL providers into line. An idea would be to get together with a bunch of schools around the country. Many schools have broadcast radio stations that don't have to stand up to RIAA scrutiny or lawsuits. They could house and host internet radio stations with the same function as broadcast stations, providing students with hands on experience either behind a mic or in an equipment room, but have much better standing in any internet radio lawsuits. Anything with P2P in the name is going to get turbofucked rather quickly by the RIAA no matter if they can track people down or not. It's sad but true. So who wants to build an island 13 miles off the Montery penninsula with an OC-192 hooked up to it? We could be Sealand Redux.

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    I'm a loner Dottie, a Rebel.
    1. Re:Hobos with shopping carts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      THAT POST WAS CRAZY!!!

      FYI, that should be "cornfed white guy revving their rice rockets in parking lots", not "cornbread white guys revving their rice burners in parking lots." I don't think either description is fair - willakers, if I wasn't snooty I wouldn't be on slashdot, but that's taking snootiness too far.

    2. Re:Hobos with shopping carts by Cliff · · Score: 5, Insightful
      I'm so saddened by the loss of internet radio for precisely the reasons you mentioned. Did the copyright office ever give a specific justification for their rates? (I never bothered to read the ruling...I've been too disgusted with this whole deal. I'll have to suck up and read that damned thing soon, though).

      My point is that it's funny that they should standardize on the same rate as broadcasters when the barrier to entries for webcasting is lower than it is for radio. What's this? If you want to play music for people you have to destroy it by inserting inane yakking, and loud commercials into the flow, just so sponsors get their oh-so-importaint "air time"?

      ("What? No commercials? That's un-American!" [well, at least maybe non-capitalistic, but I digress]).

      Ever since the shutdown, I've gone back to listening to my own CD collection, but for a long time I was listening one of the various SomaFM streams, sitting back, coding, and occasionally writing down the name of a new group or album that I had never heard. I have made dozens of CD purchases based on that list. That source is gone now, and the list (along with CD purchasing for a few months, it looks like) frozen with its departure.

      Another funny anecdote: While driving (the only time I ever consider subjecting myself to broadcast radio) recently, I actually heard a song I liked. Missed the name of the artist, but I paid close attention to the lyrics to see if I could pick out keywords. Went home, logged in to the nearest P2P network and had that exact song in less than 30 minutes.

      If someone would develop a system with that kind of response time, that would allow me to download what I want by the song, I'd pay for that. The RIAA has had at least half a decade to develop such a system, yet instead they have tried to legislate the technology back into Pandora's Box.

      This disgusts me to no end, and I think I'm now fed up enough where this will now become a Personal Crusade for me. These leeches do the public, and the arts no good. They've refused to evolve, so now it's time for their extinction.

      So...

      ...who wants to build an island 13 miles off the Montery penninsula with an OC-192 hooked up to it? We could be Sealand Redux.
      Count me in on that undertaking. Oh yeah.
    3. Re:Hobos with shopping carts by kryptkpr · · Score: 1

      There used to be such a thing..
      it was called lyrics.ch ...
      you could do a full-text search on hundreds of thousands of songs ..
      I always found every song I could remember by lyrics...
      it was shut down ... guess why?
      it "violated the rights of the artists", even though it's content was all submitted by visitors (and many lyrics had spelling, and other mistakes in them), and is almost totally useless for any other purpose.

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      DJ kRYPT's Free MP3s!
    4. Re:Hobos with shopping carts by linzeal · · Score: 1

      What electronic music are you talking about? Techno, ambient, trip-hop? Electronica's fans are usually discheveled older hipsters, but your desciption lines up ravers pretty square. Here is a good stream of the grandaddy style of electronic music, still mostly unknown after all these years!

    5. Re:Hobos with shopping carts by zerocool^ · · Score: 2

      Ozma = Weezer. Although it doesn't get much worse than the last album. Pinkerton was a bucket of glorious pop, one of the best albums ever, but the "green" album was sub-par, and this latest foray is worse. And Ozma seems to be trying to copy weezer, always has been. Emo-pop-punk. But I think Ozma is better than weezer lately.

      I always thought the Get Up Kids were sub-par. If you like them, you'd LOVE Reggie and the Full Effect. Reggie is incredible, it's what the Get UP Kids should have been.

      I went to the yahoo outloud tour of weezer, (...goes to look at ticket) March 1, 2001, in Charlotte. I got lost trying to find the freakin venue, so I missed ozma, and only saw 1/2 of the get up kids. I wanted to see Ozma, but the Get Up Kids did well. Weezer, though, is incredible live. Whatever they do on albums, their live shows are technically perfect.

      Ah, well, back to Reel Big Fish's new CHEER UP! album. It grows on you, belive me. Also, check out Millencollin - Home from Home.

      ~Will

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      sig?
    6. Re:Hobos with shopping carts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >Whatever they do on albums, their live shows are technically perfect.

      they put one of their albums in a cd player, and press "play" technically perfect every time

    7. Re:Hobos with shopping carts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I apologize for the OT-ness of this - mod down at will. Just whoring KC rock.

      Reggie and the Full Effect = Keyboard Player from The Get Up Kids/Drummer from Coalesce (same person).

      Not that I thought you were implying anything different, just showing the relationship to any curious readers. I'm glad to hear someone else say those things about current Weezer music... here are some KC kids that have picked up The Get Up Kids pop/rock duties since they got 'popular':
      The Anniversary (massive flash warning)
      Onward Crispin Glover
      The Stella Link
      The Casket Lottery

    8. Re:Hobos with shopping carts by TrentC · · Score: 2
      Did the copyright office ever give a specific justification for their rates?

      Yes. From the "Tell Me The Story In 90 Seconds" section of SaveInternetRadio.org:

      The CARP determined that the only example of a "willing buyer/willing seller" was a deal cut between Yahoo! (which had recently paid $5 billion for Broadcast.com) and the RIAA in July 2000 (while the dotcom craze had not yet crashed) and based their ruling largely on the terms of that deal.


      Jay (=
  46. onby's greatest hits volume 1... by on+by · · Score: -1

    Slash - ah - Saviour of the Intarweb
    Slash - ah - Rob will save ev'ry one of us

    - Seemingly there is no reason for these
    - Extraordinary LNUX upsets
    - What's happening Slash ?
    - Only Doctor Eric Raymond formerly at VA
    - Has provided any explanation

    Slash - ah - it's all open sores

    - This morning's unprecedented stock price dip
    - Is no cause for alarm

    Slash - ah - king of insipidity
    Mod down ev'ry one of us
    Bitchslap ev'ry one of us
    Never hit the Karma cap
    Ev'ry troll ev'ry crapflood ev'ry post
    on the mighty Slash

    - General Kala, Slash Groupthink approaching
    - What do you mean Slash Groupthink approaching?
    - Open fire - all weapons
    - Despatch war rocket Ajax to Mod-bomb his comments!

    Slash - ah

    - Gordon's alive!

    Slash - ah - he'll save ev'ry one of us
    Just a man with a man's courage
    He knows nothing but a man
    But he can never fail
    No one but the pure in heart
    May find the golden grail
    Oh oh - oh oh

    - Slash Slash I love you
    - but we only have fourteen hours to delist VA

    Slash

  47. onby's greatest hits volume 1... by on+by · · Score: -1

    Can you troll it, can you troll it, can you troll it?

    If you look around
    The whole CLIT is coming together now
    Can you troll it, can you troll it, can you troll it
    troll it in the air, the mods are taking you everywhere
    Can you troll it, can you troll it, can you troll it

    All the trollers of the world should be
    Lovin' each other wholeheartedly
    Yes, it's all right
    Take my message to your AC'er and tell him twice
    Spread the CLIT and try to teach the man
    Who's hating his login, when AC won't do
    When we're all the same, 'cause the
    Crap inside me is inside you

    Can you troll it, can you troll it, can you troll it
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    Troll out loud
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    Can you troll it, can you troll it, can you troll it
    Can you troll it, can you troll it, can you troll it

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    Should be
    trolling each other wholeheartedly
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    Take my member to your brother and suck him twice
    Take the trolls to the marching men
    Who are killing crapflooders, when death won't do
    'Cause we're all the same
    Yes, the cock inside me is inside of you

    Can you troll it, can you troll it, can you troll it
    Can you troll it, can you troll it, can you troll it

    Every troll you make
    Is someone's mod in another place
    Every VA share
    Is hunger and strife to another child
    But the stars do flood
    In promising widening, is near in IE
    Can you troll it now
    So sisters and brothers
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    Now tell me

    Can you troll it, can you troll it, can you troll it
    Can you troll it, can you troll it, can you troll it

  48. YAY ME by FreshPondPhil · · Score: -1

    Prostitutes, Pimps Ril Residents Of Ridgewood Curse, Expose Themselves In Street
    by Jennifer Stevens

    Angry residents of Starr Street and Willoughby Street attended last Monday's Citizens for a Better Ridgewood meeting to complain about the growing problem of prostitution near their homes. They complained that prostitutes can be found walking the streets where they live at any hour of the day"sometimes indecently exposing themselves or cursing at the residents of the neighborhood. Extremely frustrated by the constant presence of hookers and pimps, they asked Lieutenant Christopher Murray of the 104th Precinct what the police are doing to remedy this situation. Murray explained that 104th officers patrol those streets when they can, give out summonses and even make an occasional arrest. However, the lieutenant explained that no matter how many summonses cops give, or how many arrests they make, police activity will not stop the problem because the punishment for prostitution is no more than a slap on the wrist, or in most cases, a $50 fine. "They'll be right back out there the next day," he said. Lieutenant Murray suggested that the residents of those two streets get organized, band together and hold a protest march.

    "You have to work together to try to get rid of them," he said. "The community has to get together as a group and take back the neighborhood." Murray did his best to convince the residents that forming an alliance, and then confronting these prostitutes as a group"if done consistently for a few weeks"would help to rid the neighborhood of the problem. Residents seemed upset by the fact that the 104th Precinct can't do more to alleviate this problem. P.O. Kathy Bonziglia urged residents to consider becoming "blockwatchers" for their street. A blockwatcher is affiliated with the 104th Precinct, and upon signing up, is given a code number which allows him/her to call the precinct and report crimes anonymously.

    Some people asked what the difference was between reporting crimes anonymously and just calling regularly, as they do now. P.O. Bonziglia explained that when a person signs up to be a blockwatcher and then begins to call in to report crimes, the precinct considers that valuable information. For more information concerning Blockwatchers, click here [blockwatchers.com]




    goatse , it does a body good!

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    --Mad propz to the homies cruisin the CVS parking lot.
  49. onby's greatest hits volume 1 by on+by · · Score: -1
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  50. As the RIAA gets their DOS scripts ready... by linuxbaby · · Score: 1

    As the RIAA gets their DOS scripts ready...

    :-)

    1. Re:As the RIAA gets their DOS scripts ready... by Arcturax · · Score: 2

      Ah, but can they DOS 100 million people at once? It will sure be fun watching them try. Especially when out of country script kiddies start firing back at them.

      Heck, maybe someone should write a program which makes mozilla or explorer refresh the RIAA homepage every 20 seconds. With about 50 million people running that, it would kill the RIAA in bandwidth costs alone.

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      --Won't that be grand? Computers and the programs will start thinking and the people will stop. - Dr. Walter Gibbs
  51. Team up with GNUnet/Freenet.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He really should consider working with the GNUnet/Freenet teams on this if he really wants this concept to succeed.

  52. Phooschnickens by FreshPondPhil · · Score: -1
    Oil change instructions for CheezyDee:

    These instructions apply specifically to a Ford 4.6 liter V8. Other makes/models may vary.

    1) Go to work. Do some actual work, then during lunch, go to Swift, Myrtle Auto Parts or Pep Boys and buy 5 quarts of oil and a filter.
    2) After lunch, complain to boss about a serious malfunction in car. Explain to boss that if it's not fixed now, car may be in shop for a week and you won't be able to show up during that time.
    3) After boss falls for bullshit story, grab 4x4x6 block of wood and place at the edge of closed forks on forktruck so as not to damage the pretty frame of your car then lift just higher than the jackstands you always place next to the shop desk.
    4) Place jackstands under frame just behind front fenders and lower car slowly being carefull nothing moves or gets crushed. When forks are clear, push nose of car sideways to make sure it's stable.
    5) Place big empty pan under oil plug and filter. Remove oil plug with channel locks (this is a custom oil plug with a round head to keep petrolium soaked primates from using impact wrenches on it in rare occasions when you have them change the oil). Remove filter with filter wrench you conveniently placed in the cabinet marked "car stuff".
    6) While waiting for oil to drain, call Vixen and see who's working tonight.
    7) Replace drain plug, install new filter with light coat of oil on seal (making sure old seal isn't still stuck to filter housing or block), then fill with 5 quarts of fresh oil. Unplug primary sides of coil packs and crank until oil pressure comes up, then lower car with forktruck, place jackstands next to shop desk, plug the coils back in, and start car. Check for leaks.
    8) Dump used oil into waste oil barrel and clean pan. Call waste oil guy if more than 3/4 full. Put tools away, wipe up the 3 drops of oil you spilled, wash up, and lock up the shop if boss has left already. If boss is still there, pretend to work until she does, then lock up and go home.

    Money spent:

    Oil and filter: $15.00 Money made:

    1/2 day you were getting paid to work on your own car: $44.10

    Total: +$29.10

    Oil change instructions for women:

    1) Pull up to local petrolium soaked primate when car produces a large white, black and/or blue cloud of foul smelling smoke behind it. Insist car was running fine the day/week/month before you hit this big pothole. Try not to stare at the dirt under his eyelids and sloping forehead.
    2) Try not to scream in horror as the PSP tells you it's approximately $5,000 to replace the engine you never changed the oil in.
    3) Apply for a job at Vixen to pay the PSP. If Tony or Freddy like you, go home and get dressed, you start tonight. If not, try Pumps and repeat. Don't forget the G string to show off those nice ass cheeks.
    4) Go to Vixen , and get topless as soon as you get on stage. Don't screw around or you won't get tipped. Try not to look at yourself too much in the mirrors, and ALWAYS take the dollar with the cleavage, not the hands.
    5) Talk to cute guy everyone calls "Cheezy", "Dee" or "Sex Machine". Explain your problem, take him home.
    6) Get naked and have the best sex you ever had times 3. Don't squeeze his balls, he hates that. Swallow it. Wiggle your ass in his face. Scream his name when you cum multiple times.
    7) When you wake the next afternoon, cook him breakfast, and make lots of coffee. Have more sex with him. Call the mechanic to get your car back as is. Bend over the couch. CheezyDee likes to see your ass jiggle as he takes you from behind.
    8) When the car comes, so will you. To avoid distracting Cheezy while he works, go to the store and buy more rubbers. Get some beer and coffee too.
    9) By the time you return, Cheezy should be around half done, depending on how much other stuff was neglected. Order pizza or Chinese for dinner. Cheezy likes pork fried rice and a couple eggrolls.
    10) After he eats his food and then you, he's back to work. Clean the house. Yes, thats his spooge on the ceiling tile. Take a shower, douche, touch yourself while thinking about last night.
    11) When he's done, thank Cheezy by letting him in the bad place. Wiggle. Move him in. Introduce him to your friends.

    Money spent:

    Oil change: $15.00

    Petrolium soaked primate "Consulting fee": $200.00

    Wrecking yard motor and tranny: $1,000.00

    Brakes: $120.00

    Total: $1,335.00

    The best sex of your life with CheezyDee: Priceless

    --

    --Mad propz to the homies cruisin the CVS parking lot.
  53. what's with all these spam? by sidster · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Are these spam-posts by anonymous posters becoming
    more common or are they just a regular thing that
    get "suppressed" as they are moderated?

    --
    --sidster
    Play lotto? Try http://www.alottofun.com/
  54. ASDFGHJKL I wonder if this works by FreshPondPhil · · Score: -1

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    --Mad propz to the homies cruisin the CVS parking lot.
  55. Page widening by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

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  56. Geastest hits volume 1 by on+by · · Score: -1

    1:1 In the selfsame day entered Noah, and Noah's wife, and were not
    ashamed.

    3:1 Now the serpent was more honourable than all his work which God hath judged me, and I now. He's our lover.
    We're each other's lovers. Strange isn't it, how things come about?

    As Dad feeds from my asshole, my dirty ass!"

    Uncle Brian slid down, trailing wet kisses along my filth covered body.
    Closer and closer he slid his mouth off of my Dad's filthy asshole.

    A million shocks of pleausure envelope my body. I'm tingling all over.
    So much has happened to me another son.

    30:25 And it came to buy food: 43:21 And it came to pass when thou
    dost overtake them, say unto him, Is there yet any
    portion or inheritance for us in our hand.

    43:22 And other money have we brought down to Egypt.

    37:26 And Judah said unto him, Wherefore saith my lord that I may go in unto Pharaoh.

    41:9 Then spake the chief butler told his dream he did to prosper in his heart, The days of mourning
    for my father Abraham, and the baker of the garden,
    God hath dealt graciously with me, surely thou hadst sent me away now empty. God

    hath seen mine affliction and the rams which
    leaped upon the slain, and spoiled even all that were ringstraked and
    spotted, and all the days of
    Mahalaleel were eight hundred ninety and five years, and begat Enos: 5:7 And
    Seth lived after he begat Methuselah three hundred pieces of silver: and they brought him down thither.

    39:2 And the
    sons of Zilpah, whom Laban gave unto Rachel his
    daughter, and she conceived, and bare up the food of those good years that come,
    and lay up corn under the rim seat gazing at the brown cattle among
    the sheep, and their oxen, and asses, flocks, and
    menservants, and womenservants: and I saw in my bladder. I relaxed my muscles, and out
    of my hole, my ass cheeks, making me cry out. Then another,
    and another. 20 whacks accoss my ass. He pulled out a huge bottle of larger. He
    untide my feet, and pulled it
    free, stroking it with my shit fillled hand.

    The warmth of manturd on my face. He took his journey with all that were with him a coat of many colours that
    was on him; 37:24 And they digged another well, and strove for that is it that thou hast: 45:11
    And there will I give thee? And he bought a parcel of a month.

    29:15 And Laban said, Behold, I have cast betwixt me and
    the children be able to endure, until I have given every green herb for meat: and it was good.

    1:13 And the sons of Reuel; Nahath, and Zerah, Shammah, and
    Mizzah: these were the dukes
    that came of Eliphaz were Teman, Omar, Zepho, and Gatam, and
    Kenaz.

    36:12 And Timna was concubine to Eliphaz Esau's son; and said, I
    will not leave thee, until I have

  57. Re:Hobos with shopping carts in Espanol by FreshPondPhil · · Score: -1

    He ido de ser totalmente indiferente sobre radio del Internet a ser un ventilador enorme de ?l en el palmo alrededor de de un a?o. Ahora no he escuchado la m?sica de la difusi?n en a?os de un par. Apenas sobre todo que escuch? sali? durante mucho tiempo de mis amigos y piscinas "copia M?S OSCURA"del i. Har?amos los ?lbumes de la compilaci?n para uno a o las canciones justas del gancho que gozamos particularmente de ?lbumes en cada otros de colecciones. La radio de la difusi?n ha sido siempre mierda pero ha estado recientemente as? que malo que no puedo estar parado simplemente para escuchar ella. Comenc? a ir a las docenas de conciertos del LA a San Diego. Me pienso el a?o pasado marqu? 35 conciertos en cerca de 9 meses. ?Iba a ver bigass que las demostraciones de la arena que eran hyped por las estaciones de radio? Solamente en un pu?ado muy peque?o de casos como el viaje de Yahoo Outloud Weezer, cuando fui a las demostraciones del LA y del SD. La mayor?a de las demostraciones que iba a eran demostraciones de la roca del indie y demostraciones locales peque?as. De todos modos, iba a estas demostraciones ESPEC?FICAMENTE porque las vendas no eran jugadas en la radio. La gente I encuentra incre?blemente talentoso como Ozma y los cabritos del levantar ser?n afortunados siempre tener un solo jugado en una estaci?n como KROQ. Yendo a todas las demostraciones hice y el escoger encima de ?lbumes de vendas que tuve gusto, yo puso no s?lo el dinero en sus bolsillos sino consigui? introducido a m?s vendas que puedo recordar f?cilmente. ?stas son vendas de algunos badass en mi opini?n pero no van a ser encontradas en la radio. Despu?s comenc? a conseguir en una materia m?s electr?nica pero nunca era realmente uno para la escena electr?nica. No puedo estar parado que ve a un manojo de individuos blancos del cornbread revving sus hornillas del arroz en porciones del estacionamiento. No es racismo o cualquier cosa, ?l las miradas justas est?pidas viendo a alg?n cabrito hecho frente pimply con su sombrero de Fred Durst con "accionado por una etiqueta engomada de VTEC" en el suyo ventana le?da. Narcotizados fuera de wannabes del raver no son exactamente para arriba en mi lista de afiliaciones sociales cualquiera. M?s bien que d?gales sean qui?nes quisieran que fueran yo apenas evitan la escena enteramente. De modo que me deje con ninguna parte para conseguir m?sica con excepci?n de Napster o algo. Es agradable ver si deseo pasar el dinero en un ?lbum pero la mayor?a de las canciones se registran mal en tambi?n el punto bajo de un ?ndice binario para mi gusto. Despu?s enciendo encima de iTunes en mi Powerbook y hojeo a las estaciones electr?nicas. ?Mierda santa! M?sica que no suena como asno cuando la tapo en mi sistema de los sonidos y no tiene un DJ necio el ser whack del wiggity en el aire. Cogida s?. Consigo no s?lo una buena corriente de la m?sica sino que tambi?n tengo una exhibici?n de qu? canci?n estoy escuchando en caso de que yo encontrarme a m? mismo interesada en el artista. Entonces hay el disponible bien escogido, si una estaci?n comienza adentro con algo que no lo hago como puedo doblar tecleo otro con una diversa corriente. La radio del Internet se ha convertido en la radio que he estado deseando por a?os. En un bloque de la hora consigo o?r el valor alrededor de de una hora de la m?sica, no 10 minutos de m?sica decente, 30 minutos de slop que no desear?a en mi enemigo peor y 20 minutos de los anuncios necios para la mierda no compro y DJs habr?a tirado algo en el sol ahora est? haciendo frente a una cierta oposici?n tiesa en la forma el RIAA y sus minions demonic. No deseo ver la radio del Internet ir abajo porque es la ?nica manera barata que tengo a la izquierda conseguir introducido a una cierta buena m?sica. El compartir con mis amigos es agradable pero no hay bastante variedad realmente a encontrar del extremo de la mierda I de la pared para arriba realmente que cava. La radio del P2P se parece como una soluci?n obvia debido a la cultura del buzzword del P2P que se afloja en fecha tarde. El modelo sin embargo funciona en problemas serios. El RIAA no tiene que ir despu?s de un solo individuo o el grupo de individuos a toma hacia fuera la radio del P2P como ?l pod?a con a los varios programas que compart?an. Todo lo que tiene que hacer debe hacer algunos repartos con el cable y los abastecedores del DSL. Deja la opini?n all? era una radio popular del P2P en mi ciudad, todo lo que tomar?a es un reparto o el pleito contra la carta y ?l ser?a tostado. todo el extremo para arriba con nuestra anchura de banda acortamos m?s que est? ya y radio del P2P terminar?a encima de prohibido espec?ficamente en el AUP. ?Cambie al DSL que usted dice? Deseo de mierda I. PacBell no podr?a encontrar sus dicks si no estaban en el extremo de sus brazos. Evne si el DSL era viable para alguna gente P2P r

    --

    --Mad propz to the homies cruisin the CVS parking lot.
  58. scrolling further down the page... by BlueJay465 · · Score: 2
    The concept of P2P radio was just begging to be released by the likes of CARP and the RIAA. Well, Hillary Rosen, what have you to say for yourself now that you have uncorked the genie THIS time?

    ...

    And now for something completely different:
    If you have a website, I'll trade you the full version of Spheres of Chaos for a link here. As long as it's not a completely rubbish site that is. I need more traffic. it's a backwater in here... (emphasis added)
    need I say more :)
    1. Re:scrolling further down the page... by moonbender · · Score: 2

      Yep, just read that, too. I guess he's got all the traffic he wanted now. :P
      It's okay, though, that "psychedelic" game is actually rather sweet. Not groundbreaking at all, but a nice game to waste a few minutes on. Played it months ago.

      --
      Switch back to Slashdot's D1 system.
    2. Re:scrolling further down the page... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      soc is btw one of the coolest asteroid clones ever. i've had flashbacks and hallucinations days after.

    3. Re:scrolling further down the page... by MnementhVI · · Score: 1
      The concept of P2P radio was just begging to be released by the likes of CARP and the RIAA. Well, Hillary Rosen, what have you to say for yourself now that you have uncorked the genie THIS time?
      I did think that maybe this may come as a nasty suprise to them. I bet they didn't see this coming, just like they didn't see p2p file sharing. hehehe
  59. onby's greatest hits vol 1. by on+by · · Score: -1

    1:1 In the beginning God created great whales, and every living creature, that was in an
    Hebrew unto us to mock us; he came near, they and their father saw the bundles of money, they were created.

    5:3 And Adam knew his brethren, My money is restored; and, lo, there were three hundred sixty and two years, and begat Methuselah:

    5:22 And Enoch walked with God.

    6:10 And Noah was a goodly person, and well favoured.

    39:7 And it came to pass after these things, that his life is preserved.

    32:31 And as he felched me. Eating up his ass. "Find something up there you like, Brian?"
    "I feel shit, Chris!" Uncle Brian yelled, "I can feel your fuckin' butt slop!"

    "Yeah! Dig for shit, little brother! More!" Dad groaned, pushing his hairy ass back taking more of Uncle Brian's arm up my ass!"

    Uncle Brian scooped some of the lad a bondman to my father, saying, If I bring him not that Joseph understood them; for he hath sold us, and fall upon us, and we will arise and go; that we saw the anguish of his asshole into my mouth. "Ah fuck!" Dad cried out, as my head jerked upward to swallow his semi-hard cock and Uncle Brian's fists as he disturbed deep inside me. He relaxed and the eyes of Pharaoh, and went throughout all the brown in the wilderness, as he ejaculates upon the earth after his kind, whose seed was in an
    Hebrew unto us to mock us; he came from Gilead with their warm filth. Lying on the earth, and it pleased Pharaoh well, and strove for that the LORD shut him in.

    7:17 And the LORD was with him, and fell on his journey, and came upon the altar of Raunch. A new sacrificial lamb was being offered up to my lord; and let us go, and I
    cried with a loud gasp. He looked back at us, his eyes glazed with lust. "Fucking pigs!" he screamed. "Fuck me! Fist fuck my shitty ass!"

    In tandem, Uncle Brian held me in the earth after his kind, and every living creature that
    moveth, which the LORD God walking in the land of Egypt, their father Israel said unto his wife: and Jacob answered
    and said to him, our still hard cock press
    against my asshole. He licked and licked, and then spat on my father.

    45:1 Then Joseph commanded to fill their sacks with corn, and to save your lives by a man's cock! I'm not a
    boy anymore!"

    I scooped Dad's and Uncle Brian and I
    will not let thee go, except thou bless me.

    32:27 And he
    said, For now the blessed of the ground.

    4:3 And in process of time it came to pass, when his master saw that Shelah was grown, and she said, Surely the LORD God made the LORD God make coats of
    skins, and clothed them.

    3:22 And the name of the air; and brought forth by
    handfuls.

    41:48 And he called Night.
    And the evening and the eleven stars made obeisance to me.

    41:25 And Joseph made ready his chariot, and went out, and refrained himself, and for your daughter: I pray thee, of thy
    fathers, and to thy seed
    shall be my very son Esau? And he sent Judah before him to his left, ramming his
    fingers up his voice, and wept.

    27:39 And Isaac his father; and he loved
    the damsel, and spake roughly to us, and we will take your daughters unto you.

    45:13 And ye know that ye
    sold into Egypt.

    37:29 And Reuben

  60. An Invitation to Faggotry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you consider anal rape a "success". Working with dirty GNU hippies will expose him to the seedy open sores underworld of fæces sex, rear entry, and the dreaded Richard M. Stallman, homo-extraordinare.

  61. Crashing by bparrish · · Score: 2, Informative

    Someone is purposely crashing the network..if you start it up and click on stations, the streamer program will crash.

    They're sending bad data as new station hosts. Hope he fixes this soon.

    NEW STATION: ' ÷8çu_&#89 93;m¥i#½Eúq"&#8 962;8où& #8745;½n-fäMå'
    NEW STATION: ' ÷8çu_&#89 93;m¥i#½Eúq"&#8 962;8où& #8745;½n-fKå'
    NEW STATION: ' ÷8çu_&#89 93;m¥i#½Eúq"&#8 962;8où& #8745;½n-fIå'
    NEW STATION: 'çlH]rèX&#9570 ; oíQe1\KÇf:za¥G;~& #9532;3ïQc|ï:'

    1. Re:Crashing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fucking chinks using it. They need to be nuked some more.

    2. Re:Crashing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Useless at the moment and there's no updates on the website. With this amount of exposure I'd be trying my damdest to get this fixed and an update out - He'll loose the momentum and this will be regarded as a joke if he doesn't sort it soon.

    3. Re:Crashing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Diddling with a disassembler, SoftICE and a hex editor is useful here (basically adding a few checks).
      A modified version escapes all station DOSes encountered so far.

      To patch, change the contents at the following offsets:

      Offset D12: C1 EA 03 52 8B 13 83 E2 0F E9 51 05 00 00
      Offset 1271: 89 13 E9 E7 3F 00 00
      Offset 5259: E9 B3 BA FF FF 90
      Offset 7F88: E9 B4 06
      Offset 8641: 81 F9 00 00 70 00 7C 19 33 C9 E9 12 00 00 00
      Offset 8662: A9 10 08 00 00 E9 21 F9 FF FF

      You may want to run this in VMWare or Wine or check with a hex editor/disassembler like Hackers View if sufficiently paranoid. After all, without checking these patches yourself you cannot know if they are trojan and that the new program won't format your disk instead.

    4. Re:Crashing by MnementhVI · · Score: 1

      The skr1pt k1dd1es have just been returning a too-long string in the config POST, and I wasn't checking it. It's fixed now. I wasn't actually planning on this thing suddenly being quite so popular. Before this morning, I had a total of 16 hosts seen, no more than 4 at once. When I got up to watch the footy, I saw 256+ seen hosts. I thought WTF?

  62. What about Palladium/DRM? by iamroot · · Score: 1

    Will this really matter once Mircosoft has effectively forced everyone to use DRM? Sure, there will still be many users of Linux(provided Paladium doesn't refuse to run it) and Mac, but without a very large userbase, how effective can pretty much any P2P program be? Undoubtedly, you won't be able to do stuff like this on windows anymore, once Palladium becomes a real product, and the most important people to the user base would have been Windows users.

    Come to think of it, how will Palladium treat P2P software in general? I have doubts about it being varified as "secure".

    1. Re:What about Palladium/DRM? by Anonvmous+Coward · · Score: 1

      I'm reasonably sure that the file format has to comply with .DRM. MS can't really shoehorn DRM into .MP3 format. Even if they manage to (I don't dare challenge them), there's still the matter of the hacker community who'll quickly break it.

      MS DRM isn't on my radar right now. Although if MS were to manage to force it onto ppl, it might actually get the RIAA to back down on shit like the SSSCA. If that happens, crack the DRM, and continue living happily.

  63. Integration into Grokster by musicmaster · · Score: 1

    Probably the best would be to integrate such a program into one of the opensource filesharing programs.

    It should be optional - of course. But I think it is the only way to get a big enough population of users.

    1. Re:Integration into Grokster by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Since when are GNUnet and Freenet not open source file sharing programs?

      Seems to me that GNUnet would be almost ideal for this task (considering it's designed to be resistant to attacks, as well as being completely encrypted and anonymous).

  64. Untracable of course it is tracable by bloodbob · · Score: 2, Insightful

    damn this thing still uses direct connection you directly connect to the station so you get their IP and then you simple look up their ISP send them a nice letter and get them shut down.

    1. Re:Untracable of course it is tracable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      You're right. This is what I got:
      Registrant Information:
      Domain Name: goatse.cx
      Creation Date: 2001-07-10 09:35:12
      Expiration Date: 2003-01-06 00:00:00
      Last Modified: 2002-02-13 22:30:05

      Nameservers:
      NS.GOATSE.CX
      NS2.GOATSE.CX
      NS3.GOATSE.CX
      NS4.GOATSE.CX

      Status: Active

      Registrar: Christmas Island Technology Corp (citc)
      Whois Server: whois.nic.cx

  65. live365.com by Noodlenose · · Score: 1
    Where does the RIAA ruling actually leave the people at Live365 ? and their users? So far they seem to be unfazed...

    Dirk

    1. Re:live365.com by Salsaman · · Score: 3, Insightful
      A lot of the stations are not based in the US, thus are not affected by the RIAA's madness.

    2. Re:live365.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is not my idea of internet radio ...

      56kpbs .... JUK

      starts up with lots of banners ... JUK (2)

      starts up with ads about CD stores .... JUK (3)

      Nothing comes close to Soma FM Groove Salad and Secret Agent. You will be missed.

    3. Re:live365.com by extra88 · · Score: 2

      They are going to begin collecting a $5/month Royalty Administration Fee from all stations, including personal stations which have previously been free. They are collecting it regardless of broadcaster's location or broadcast content (news, talk, non-label acts). The fee is for more than just royalty payments and the mention a suggestion from SoundExchange to indie artists to get registered to collect royalties.

    4. Re:live365.com by Miska · · Score: 1

      just you wait till the US Government declares war on the 'copyright-terrorists'

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  66. On the other hand... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Encryption and geography are the peoples greatest weapons against "them".

    Have the stream encrypted, and if possible, the source IP spoofed. A third machine could relay any connection details back... ok so it would be an arse but it's just an idea.

    Encrypting the stream (via keys derived from mouse movement, keypress timing etc.) would also mean "they" would have either have lotsa suits in black vans down every road or have every "suspected" pirate's house bugged up like a Redmond OS...

    Ah yeah i can see Hollings now...
    (2 hours after another attack by the Bin Laden Boys*) "Well we tried our best, but we simply can't do a thing to stop them when we have to put all our men out catching these evil music and software pirates! When they stop pirating we can move to protect the good citizens of the United States! Remember, report all the pirates you know of! They're as bad as the terrorists! And anyone who says otherwise is un-American, un-P.A.T.R.I.O.T-ic, and is as evil as the terrorists! You can recognise them easily, they have computers and they use "Emm Pee Three's", "Net Radio", "Morpheus" and "Kazaa"... so go forth and seek out these vile anti-american-way individuals, fight for your country, and help the fight against terror!"

    The people are the guvverment's greatest weapon against the people. Nobody seems to realise that.

    *OK, so I know (not think/suspect/reckon/"read somewhere", but i cant talk about it) that the Al-Q'ieda [sp?] attacks were requested by the US guvverment, and that Saudi Bin Laden Inc and bin laden himself are on the US guvverment payroll, but that's another matter...

    1. Re:On the other hand... by edthemonkey · · Score: 1

      True enough, you can could probably get some one time use encrypted keys and stuff going on but then you realize you're going to great lengths to play a stream of music. It's pretty wild.

      Conspiracy theorists unite!

  67. Jew O'Rama by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    Just wait till the evil Jews at the RIAA and their Jew lawyers find out about this. Someone's about to get a real Hewbrew-style ass reaming.

  68. Heck with the streamer app! by robolemon · · Score: 1
    Have you guys played their game, Spheres of Chaos? Sure, it's just asteroids but believe me there's quite a twist. Everything you hit explodes into a billion rainbow-colored pixels.

    It's so simple I feel like an idiot for not thinking of it myself. This game is beautiful and takes very little processor.

    Judging by the fact that they have their game compiled for Linux as well (at about one-third the size as the Windows version, which both together make us less than 1 mega^H^H^H^H mebi^H^H^H^H million bytes) they'll probably go this direction with the Streamer app as well.

    Just out of curiosity, has anyone checked to see if the http interface is open to the public or is just restricted to localhost? Maybe we can start controlling other people's streams (e.g. knocking off the idiot who's doing the corrupt stream name)

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    I design user interfaces for a free network management application,

    1. Re:Heck with the streamer app! by MnementhVI · · Score: 1

      It's open at the moment, unless your firewall blocks it of course. It is a beta folks, I released it in anger at the CARP & Audiogalaxy bullshit. So yes, the k1dd1es can remotely close Streamer. I'll fix it.

  69. Re:CALLING ALL WOMEN! ARE YOU NOT FEELING *FRESH*? by Anonvmous+Coward · · Score: 1

    Are you seriously expecting women to read Slashdot? Heh.

    It useta crack me up when I saw douche ads during Star Trek.

  70. I think in the EULA for the program by Kasmiur · · Score: 2

    they should say

    "If you or any of your family or friends are members or work for the RIAA or the MPAA then you do not have premission to use this software. Also if you work in law enforcement or in the FBI you must delete this software at once."

    Would be intersting.

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    -THIS SPACE FOR RENT!
    1. Re:I think in the EULA for the program by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, you just discovered the cure for EVERYTHING RELATED TO P2P NETWORKS. That will STOP LAW ENFORCEMENT IN THEIR TRACKS. I can only hope the AL-QAEDA TERRORIST NETWORK doesn't hear about this new LEGALISTIC CHICANERY. That will mean UNFETTERED ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES, and the Feds will be left POWERLESS TO STOP THEM.

    2. Re:I think in the EULA for the program by Kasmiur · · Score: 2

      It was suspose to be a joke. Like most EULA's are.

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  71. This is a good idea beyond CARP. by Perianwyr+Stormcrow · · Score: 3, Insightful

    A streaming audio solution that WON'T kick your bandwidth's ass is something sorely needed for Internet radio at the moment, period. Regardless of tariffs. Why? Well, if this sort of system gets refined and takes off, suddenly everyone with a suitable connection for one stream can broadcast, instead of having to either a) have a massive pipe or b) hunt down (or pay for!) some sort of relaying service.

    This sort of idea seems destined for the time when everyone has 512k synchronous connections, though, because you'll need double whatever bandwidth is needed for your stream to relay.

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    What we call folk wisdom is often no more than a kind of expedient stupidity.-Edward Abbey

    1. Re:This is a good idea beyond CARP. by Alsee · · Score: 2

      you'll need double whatever bandwidth is needed for your stream to relay.

      Nope. Every internet connection has two seperate pipes - one up stream and one downstream. Except for some very minor overhead the two directions are independant. When you're recieving something your upstream pipe is still sitting there almost completely unused.

      That's why it pisses me off when people throttle their P2P upstream to something like 1k. They think they can download faster if they aren't uploading. It just isn't true.

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    2. Re:This is a good idea beyond CARP. by phatdawg · · Score: 1

      Wouldn't the duplex of the connection matter more? If you could send and recieve simultaneously, you would be able to relay to the next listener and so forth.

      One issue I see immediately is that basically anyone with a broadband connection should rely to a higher capactiy line as fast as possible, to facilitate a star instead of a chain. (The sooner the stream is stared, the lower the possability of a single netfault disrupting the stream)

      I have a Mac, so I can't really do anything with this right now, but I would hope there is implemented or plans to implement some kind of a supernode structure as present in gnutella... or perhaps relay connection roaming to the fastest nodes (client could buffer from both providers as high cap gets up to speed and then switch over.... kinda like cell phones?)

    3. Re:This is a good idea beyond CARP. by koali · · Score: 1

      That's true of most DSL streams, but for example 56k modems have this 56k shared between up and down.

      And my DSL's line (256/128) is affected by uploads. If I'm uploading above 12-13 Kb/s, my download rate drops. There are some recipes to avoid this (and further bandwidth magic) in the Linux Advanced Routing and Traffic Control HOWTO.

    4. Re:This is a good idea beyond CARP. by BlueBlade · · Score: 1

      Hum, sorry to wake you up, but 95% of DSL services aren't full-duplex, meaning that when your upstream pipe is maxed out, your downstream grinds to a halt.

      My current connection is 1024/128, and if I'm uploading near 16k/s, I can't download anything above 10k/s, and the lag is simply too high even for web browsing. This is the case of the great majority of DSL users btw, I'm not alone in this situation.

      The only broadband option right now that are full-duplex, are cable or wireless access. So before saying that upstream doesn't affect downstream, please check your facts.

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      Religion is the best example of mass psychosis
    5. Re:This is a good idea beyond CARP. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Synchronous != symmetric

    6. Re:This is a good idea beyond CARP. by Alsee · · Score: 2

      95% of DSL services aren't full-duplex

      I never had DSL, if that's accurate that really bites.

      My friend and I both have cable (we are about 1000 miles apart). I was sending him stuff at a couple of megs/minute... I had him send me stuff at the same time. It didn't even make a dent in my upload speed.

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    7. Re:This is a good idea beyond CARP. by MnementhVI · · Score: 1

      I specifically used UDP to get around the TCP 'ack bottleneck' problem. When I used a 56k modem, any upload would completely kill any downloads, because of the outgoing acks's queueing with the outgoing upload data. The 'ack system in Streamer is supposed to get round this, and allow real full duplex. Streamer needs real full duplex to work properly.

  72. Move the servers! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    they've released a peer to peer streaming radio solution and claim that it is untracable/closable by the RIAA

    Yeah, they're gonna locate the servers in England! :)

    1. Re:Move the servers! by MnementhVI · · Score: 1

      Not if you use a chain of first-stage anonymous relays in Russia.

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  74. it is untracable/closable by the RIAA? by Squeezer · · Score: 1

    "it is untracable/closable by the RIAA"

    So did the programmers figure out how to make packets be invisible? If so, can they teach me that trick!?

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    Does the name Pavlov ring a bell?
    1. Re:it is untracable/closable by the RIAA? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sure. The trick is called: Not being in a corrupt, ass-backwards country like the USA.

  75. Untraceable? Hardly. by Kaya · · Score: 1

    Ah yes, another Slashdot poster-wanker. Here again we find a sophomore who, driven by the delusion of his intelligence and his ostracism by normal people (and no doubt the opposite sex), adopts his wankerdom as an ideology and an identity--and so hacks together some code to further The Cause and be admitted to the circle jerk of his fellow sufferers.

    A tool to track a spanning tree across network backbones would not be hard to write; the broadcaster is simply the root of the tree. Even if more care is taken to disguise a broadcast's origins, the leaves of the trees are vulnerable to infiltration, backtrace, and closure (as are the destination nodes and matchmakers of any P2P mesh). Tools to analyze virtual networks do exist and I'm sure many prudent people, organizations, and ISPs (who have the right to know how you're using their property) are writing more.

    These tools (and others) *will* be used to stop the theft of intellectual property. Any protests will fall on deaf ears, not because Big Brother has finally arrived, but because the ideology of the protesters is morally bankrupt.

    On a related note: communications have never been untraceable since the dawn of civilization and we've done just fine, thanks--not because of dumb luck, or by the efforts of holier-than-thou vigilantes, but because fundamentally sound societies have strong processes to ensure their values are respected across all aspects of life - including the proper use of new technologies. These processes are only getting better as civilization marches on - so focus your energy on helping define the optimal set of ethical, societal controls on technology, not undermining them.

  76. Streamer behind NAT by throwaway18 · · Score: 1

    I just give it a quick try out of interest to see if it works from behind a NAT box or when it's firewalled. The answer seems to be no, though I may just be unlucky.

    On p2p filesharing networks I'v observed about two thirds of the users are firewalled/NATed and
    a lot of users don't have enough networking knowledge to set up port forwarding on their NAT/ICS/wingate PC or adsl router.

    If node is looking for another node to get an
    incoming feed from, it can directly connect to firewalled nodes so it has to get a message to the firewalled node via another node that the firewalled node has open a connection to.

    The webpage say it dosn't currently optimise the network topology, hopfully it will cope with firewalled nodes when that is done.

    Being behind a NAT means its effectivly firewalled and even if portforwarding is set up to allow it to receive incoming connections it won't know its own internet reachable ip address, it just sees a 192.168.x.x style address (rfc1918).
    The filesharing client edonkey copes by having
    edonkey servers tell client what their IP addresses are when they connect. The author could implement that in streamer, clientclient.

    1. Re:Streamer behind NAT by mindstrm · · Score: 2

      That's because you are using NAT. Don't blame firewalling. Firewalling != NAT. Not at all.

      I have a firewalled network, and it works just fine.

      This is what happens when we cross layer boundaries. Apps that don't play well with nat are apps that embed their IP address in higher layer data.. so layer 4 assumes it knows what's going on at layer 3. Bad idea.

      optimizing network technology is not related to nat.

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  78. First Netware Post by FreshPondPhil · · Score: -1

    It is official; Netcraft confirms: Netware is dying

    One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered Novell community when IDC confirmed that Netware market share has dropped yet again, now down to less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of a recent Netcraft survey which plainly states that Netware has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. Novell is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.

    You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict Novell's future. The hand writing is on the wall: Novell faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for Novell because Netware is dying. Things are looking very bad for Novell. As many of us are already aware, Netware continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood.

    Corel Netware is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers. The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time Corel developers Jordan Hubbard and Mike Smith only serve to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: Netware is dying.

    Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.

    Netware Admin leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of Netware Admin. How many users of ConsoleOne are there? Let's see. The number of Netware Admin versus ConsoleOne posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 ConsoleOne users. Corel Netware posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of ConsoleOne posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of Corel Netware. A recent article put Novell Netware at about 80 percent of the Netware market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 Netware users. This is consistent with the number of Netware Usenet posts.

    Due to the troubles of Word Perfect, abysmal sales and so on, Corel is going out of business and will probably be taken over by Novell who sell another troubled OS. Now Novell is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.

    All major surveys show that Netware has steadily declined in market share. Novell is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If Netware is to survive at all it will be among OS dilettante dabblers. Netware continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, Netware is dead.

    Fact: Netware is dying

    --

    --Mad propz to the homies cruisin the CVS parking lot.
  79. Loser. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You like taking it up the ass from corporations, don't you? Ass-kisser.

    1. Re:Loser. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Perhaps he just has a clear sense of right and wrong?

  80. d15 b3 4 t35t y'411 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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  81. Fascinating concept... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    ...and, rather interestingly, one I was just discussing with a couple of friends last night. This isn't the first time something like this has been tried, and the bulk of our conversation had to do with a similar idea a businessman had a little over a century ago.

    It seems that back in the late 1800's in America (I mention this for those /.ers who don't happen to live in the U.S.) there was this saloon in the West that was kind of a run-down, ramshackle joint that was frequented by a few loyal patrons and not too many others. I think it was California, but it could have been Oregon or someplace similar -- well, the location isn't really relevant to the story but if you're really interested you might be able to dig a bit on Google to find out. Basically, while the saloon didn't go out of its way to publicize itself to out-of-towners (not much point given that it was in a fairly remote area) it managed to do a fairly steady trade despite the occasional brawl that caused property damage and the persistent requests from a particular fellow for free drinks.

    More nights than not, the proprietor of the saloon would watch this drunk come wandering in through the doors, sit down, and lay a line on him about how he's trying to pull things together and how he'd just make enough to keep himself in beans and couldn't the bartender just pour him a shot or two to fuzz the edges and whatnot. And again, more nights than not, the bartender would take pity on the poor guy and pull out the whiskey.

    Now, this went on for some time, and while the bartender was an easy mark even he had his limit. So one night, after the bartender already gave the fellow three shots on the house, he decides to cut the guy off.

    "Look," he says, "while I'm really sorry to hear that things still aren't working out for you I don't think that I can keep giving you free drinks. I've got to make ends meet too, you know."

    So the drunk says, "I don't suppose you've got anything I can do to get another drink tonight?"

    The proprietor, not particularly wanting the fellow to hang around all night and certainly not expecting him to take him up on his proposition, says "Well, you see that spittoon over there? If you take a swig out of that I suppose I could give you a drink to wash it down."

    No sooner did he finish his last sentence than the drunk walked over to the spittoon and hefted it off of the floor. Before the bartender could stop him, the fellow put the rim to his lips, tipped the bottom of the metal container up into the air, and began to swallow. To the bartender's dismayal, the guy continued to slowly chug the thick contents of the spittoon. When he had finally gulped the final remnants of the container, he threw it to the ground, wiped off his lips with his shirt cuff, and gagged, "So, do I get the drink?"

    "You can have the bottle!" exclaimed the bartender, immediately pouring the first shot. "But tell me, why did you swallow the whole damn thing? You only needed to swig it to earn the drink."

    The drunk replies: "It was all one long string."

  82. For christ sake! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why not just pay for it? (the music that is). Broadcasted music isn't really that expensive to finance, even small broadcasts can be financed with advertising.

    The cheapness just sucks, artists work hard for their living!

  83. Where DRM is going ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I dont know if it will be in palladium v1, but eventually the DRM hardware will just make "audio-fingerprints" and extract watermarks directly from audio output and check both at a m$/RIAA server ... so they wont really need a DRM scheme in the format itself.

    1. Re:Where DRM is going ... by Anonvmous+Coward · · Score: 1

      Ah.. I see what you're saying.

      You're right, that's a tougher problem. But.. if they can crack SDMI, they can crack this too, right?

  84. I AGREE WITH THIS POST by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    n/t

  85. OPENdj does this, and is open source by hardcorejon · · Score: 1

    Hello folks, Since it seems other folks are getting lots of attention, and this "P2P streaming" stuff is exactly what my OPENdj project is all about, I feel I've got to pitch OPENdj to you...

    OPENdj is a distributed streamer, allowing DJs to schedule time on streams through a web based interface. It's pretty full-featured, with automatic archiving of all broadcasts, meta-tagging on broadcasts, searching on those metatags, listener counts, chat room features, etc.

    OPENdj is open source software, available for anyone to download, play with, and use.

    Check it out, let me know what you think.

    - jonathan.

  86. Re:Hm - this idea IS FREE, it's called OPENdj by hardcorejon · · Score: 3, Informative

    Check out OPENdj, my rendition of an open source, UNIX-based distributed streamer. It is very full featured and has been operating on http://opendj.com/ for over a year.

    It is open source software, available for anyone to download, play with, and use.

    Check it out and let me know what you think.

    - jonathan.

  87. Not definitely by jesterzog · · Score: 2

    I thought that first, but on a second reading it doesn't seem so obvious. I don't think it's unreasonable to argue that he's just annoyed at so many music streaming and trading services having been closed down. For all we know, he just wants something to trade non-corporate music.

    From what he's said, he could easily just want a system for streaming fully legitimate mp3's, and simply be expressing disgust that the services that used to provide legal music are being shut down by bullies.

    Stating that it's "enough to play your tunes to your mates" would also have to count in his favour.

    1. Re:Not definitely by showboat · · Score: 1

      Yes, for the defense, maybe. But they're sure to sue him if he continues, "just in case" and in order to find out if he's broadcasting cr'd material, no?

  88. That page.. by Lord+Bitman · · Score: 1

    There's a fun asteroids-type game on that page ^_^

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    -- 'The' Lord and Master Bitman On High, Master Of All
    1. Re:That page.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shut yer hole, Chinaman.

  89. Nice idea, it could be fundamentally flawed by alansingfield · · Score: 1
    Some unhelpful person has put crud data somewhere into the stream, which crashes the program.

    How would you stop this from becoming a problem?

    Well you could devise some way of ignoring dud hosts. BUT - to do this you would have to have a method of identifying which hosts were broken (e.g. user ranking like slashdot moderation). Hence you can't be anonymous anymore.

    I'm sure someone can counter this argument, I'd be interested to know any possible alternatives!

    1. Re:Nice idea, it could be fundamentally flawed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or you could just reject bogus data and drop the IP that sent it from your connection list.

  90. P2P Radio ideas by flonker · · Score: 1

    I was thinking about this a week ago, how to implement, etc. But it all came down to, "I don't have the time Right Now. Maybe when I finish my current project."

    Anyway, some ideas I had:

    • Keep everything encrypted. Only you and the other node (including relay nodes) need to see it.
    • Relay nodes. You set up your node to provide a minimum of two listen nodes for the stream that you're listening to, and possibly one (or more) listen node(s) for something you aren't listening to.
    • Multi-source listening. You download portions of the stream you're listening to from multiple nodes.
    • Have the original station node keep track of how many songs you have served (for originating streams only). Use this as a ploy to tell the RIAA, "see, I have been keeping records of how much I owe you, I just haven't hit $10 yet. I was going to cut you a check as soon as I did."
    • Have the number of songs you have served (as an originating node) be easily modifiable (or self modifying in some controlled manner) in the client program, so that it can't be taken as evidence against you in the courts. This idea needs some fleshing out.
    • Up play the non-copyright infringing points of the program. "Anyone can serve a popular internet radio station and not have to pay an arm and a leg for bandwidth."
    • Swarm/Crowds like peering, to maintain anonymity.
    • Have the ability to register/digitally sign station names, and have "plain English" names for the radio stations, to prove authenticity, but not reveal your identity.
    • Station ratings. (How?)

    That's all I can remember coming up with right now. There may have been more ideas that I can't remember right now.

  91. There's absolutely nothing wrong with his HTML cod by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    whahahahahahaha. Thats the funniest thing I've read all day.

    Please tell me you can read the red text over the 80's cubed out background. You must be using lynx...

  92. Excelent by GrandCow · · Score: 1

    This is exactly what I was expecting, although I was actually expecting it a few days sooner. When will corporations learn that you can't kill a good idea? Anytime people are getting a service that is deemed illegal, there will be at least one person who finds a way to circumvent the law and make it harder to shut down.

    We went from Usenet/website mp3's and warez to Napster mp3's and warez (with a .mp3 added onto the end) to the anonymous p2p programs like Kazaa and the gnutella network. What has this gained the RIAA or any other industry pushing for the shutdown of these services? Instead of keeping the road open for them to make money in the future the companies have succeeded in pushing the services farther away from profitable in their current form. Now that we're not going to a central server or main website to get our things there really is no way to track individuals. Using Kazaa as an example, everytime I connect to a network I'm connecting to a different computer. Same with the gnutella network. I may stumble onto a specific computer once, but once I disconnect that computer will likely never see me again unless I'm looking for a file on their server... and even then I'll be untraceable. Stupid move for your company trying to make money.

    ...Which brings us to this. In the beginning it would have been possible to track user stats, total listeners, and all that good stuff. Now what can you see? You'll notice 2 people connected to your computer, and each of those 2 computers will be connected to 2 or 3 other computers. But you don't know that, you don't know that there are others listening to the rebroadcasted stream. Efectively, you're killing your own market for ad revenue (hell, you're killing the possibility of even having ads on the air). How can you demand lots of money for ads on the air when all you can show is that 5 people are connecting to your computer? Granted, with rebroadcasting that could add up to 100's of users, but you don't know that and definitely can't prove it. Sucks to be you, I hope you're happy with the fruits of your lawsuits.

    --
    "Well kids, you tried your best, and you failed. The lesson is, never try." -Homer Simpson
  93. Why mod up trash talk as insightful? by jerryasher · · Score: 2

    It's real easy to piss on other's efforts isn't it? If this guy is serious, if his software works, when the RIAA comes after him, how long do you think it will be before he opens it up?

    There's been a real trend of late to mod trash talk up as Insightful.

  94. Untracable? by Kirby-meister · · Score: 2, Informative
    "The IP of my home PC is automatically added to the list each time you run streamer..."

    How long before an RIAA rep knocks on his door?

    1. Re:Untracable? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Depends on how long it takes the RIAA rep to fly to the UK. Even then it's not entirely certain wether said rep is arrested for stalking/harrassment because there is no CARP there.

    2. Re:Untracable? by MnementhVI · · Score: 1

      And offer a big fat bribe to stop working on it?, that would be cool!

  95. I disagree with whatever you just said by Genghis+Troll · · Score: -1

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  96. How do they find each other? by Faile · · Score: 1

    The idea of the program is good, if only to poke the riaa in the eye with a big long stick, but I didnt see that he mentioned anywhere how these P2P finds each other if the main-server goes down. Limeware and all the others needed to connect to a special server the first time they were ran to give them something to start off with. None of them started off right from scratch and suddenly found 67482 friends advertising their location to all possible ip's.

    Has someone solved this for new clients or when all the old ip's have been forgotten from the cached list?

    --
    Anataka suki desu. Itsumo. Itsumademo.
  97. British guy == Untouchable by RIAA! by Steve+Cox · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The fact that the game the guy is selling on his website requires a check to be sent to him in the UK means that RIAA cant shut him down. He is British. He is not affected by your silly US laws (if he sensibly hosts it on a machine in the UK). Simple.

    Steve

    1. Re:British guy == Untouchable by RIAA! by MnementhVI · · Score: 2, Informative

      I'm not selling Streamer.
      I'm trying to sell my game 'Spheres of Chaos', but no-one is buying it anymore. Probably those nice crackers, mistaking me for rich uncle Bill.
      p.s. Source uploaded :-)...but please don't everyone do their own versions yet. I want to implement all my ideas more first.

    2. Re:British guy == Untouchable by RIAA! by NewsWatcher · · Score: 1

      I am certainly no lawyer, but if the RIAA is losing money because of his software, I am pretty sure they can go over the the UK and sue. They can sue and sue and sue until he is shutdown. And the "silly US laws" are actually pretty much the same in Britain, when it comes to copyright to my understanding.
      If you have some other info, let me know, maybe I will move my servers to Britain and begin selling pirated MP3z at Glastonbury.

      --
      If the pattern goes 9am, 10am, 11am, why isn't noon 12am?
    3. Re:British guy == Untouchable by RIAA! by MnementhVI · · Score: 1

      It's GPL'd open source now. They can sue however much they want, it's 'in the wild' now.

  98. I got your source right here by hardcorejon · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Check out OPENdj, my rendition of an open source, UNIX-based distributed streamer. It is very full featured and has been operating on http://opendj.com/ for over a year.

    It is open source software, available for anyone to download, play with, and use.

    Check it out and let me know what you think.

    - jonathan.

    1. Re:I got your source right here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whoooooooore!

    2. Re:I got your source right here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Jesus Christ, jonathan, we get the idea.

    3. Re:I got your source right here by MnementhVI · · Score: 1

      Stop calling OpenDJ a 'streamer' please, they are different things. And these Opendj posts are getting to look a bit spammy....

  99. OPENdj is a step in that direction by hardcorejon · · Score: 1

    Very interesting. To keep accounting of per-song streaming would require some work, and would be difficult for live analog sources.

    About a year ago I had some spare time, so I built OPENdj: an open source Java/Linux distributed streamer. OPENdj could be extended to do a lot of the things you describe (which, by the way, are some very interesing ideas). A fully-functional version 1.0.0 was released last May.

    Check it out, let me know what you think.

    - jonathan.

    1. Re:OPENdj is a step in that direction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We get the point, now shut up. You're worse than Mentifex.

    2. Re:OPENdj is a step in that direction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      www.goatse.cx

      thats for that opendj guy to shut the FUCK up

    3. Re:OPENdj is a step in that direction by MnementhVI · · Score: 1

      ....Wonnnnnnderfuuuul spammmmmmm.

  100. Obvious problems by tlambert · · Score: 5, Informative

    The first obvious problem is that by connecting to a number of servers, I don't even need a spanning tree attack to trace the source of the broadcast; I can do it all with the latency differential, to find the "root" node.

    The second obvious problem is that you can't find a broadcast source unless it's advertised, and once it's advertised, it can be found.

    The third obvious problem is that, even if you solve the second obvious problem using a distribguted naming service and... for lack of a better name for it... "AntiBGP", you still have the problem of being able to use differential to find the source of the inital advertisement.

    The fourth obvious problem is that you can find the source through traffic analysis: it's the one without an equal number of packets in and out.

    Something like this can only ever be effective with a distributed flood-fill model, where you can trust your nearest neighbor, or your nearest neighbor doesn't actually know what he has. Effectively, this means that you have to go to a store-and-forward model, use hard crypto on the interconnects, and then generate bogus traffic to avoid analysis.

    At that point, you would have to find a legitimate an legal use for the network before deploying it, or you are minimally an accessory before the fact and/or involved in a conspiracy to commit. If they can point at your node in the network and prove intent, then you are screwed.

    "BlackNet" is really unsuitable for streaming data.

    -- Terry

    1. Re:Obvious problems by MnementhVI · · Score: 1

      Yes, I mostly agree with these problems. Ths station info doesn't have an IP, it has a stream ID. When you try to tune to a stream, it just ask other hosts if they can send that particular stream.
      This thing can have completely legit uses too - the ability to do large webcasts that don't fall over.
      And you could choose to initially relay through a host in Russia or somewhere for anoninimity. The code for that is not there yet though.

    2. Re:Obvious problems by Bobzibub · · Score: 2

      1,2) These are problems if you are hiding behind the NSA but not the RIAA. The RIAA cannot chase every single source of a p2p radio program. Also, who cares if the music is live? Each peer could have a random delay assiociated with it.
      3) The distributed naming service doesn not necessarily have the true source, just middle men.
      4) A relay would have the same packets in and out. Not necessarily the source.

      I like what I think you term flood-fill:
      First, the source distributes menu of music. Each tune is broken into small parts. These are md5sum'd. That is stored on the menu.
      Source distributes music files to friends. Each friend does same.

      listeners connect to node, get menu, get node's friends and pull music. Peers also store music which supplants their network resources. Each music part is downloaded and compared to md5sum. If digest is wrong, dump the node and tell your friends.

      To listen to a broadcast means you must serve some songs worth of data and also be wiling to serve these parts too, within reasonable bandwidth bounds.

      Cheers,
      -b

    3. Re:Obvious problems by tlambert · · Score: 2

      I had a long response prepared, refuting you point by point, and going into detail as to how you could do all this cheaply, and how even an individual could do it, if they wanted, for around $20 a trace.

      Then I thought better of it. Let people pay people to figure out how to do it, if they don't already know.

      Let me point out that the biggest problem facing deployment of any technology like this is directory services. If someone owns the directory, then they own the network... that's why the phone companies don't worry about IP telephony damaging their long distance services with local-IP-IP-local hopping: endpoint identification means you'll have a hard time penetrating their markets. As long as the directory is ownable, then such solutions are not deployable.

      The problem will always come down to getting to a participating node, without getting to the originating node.

      If it comes down to a design discussion, this should probably be taken offline.

      -- Terry

    4. Re:Obvious problems by Bobzibub · · Score: 2

      bobzibub@a t t b i . c o m

      I'd be interested!

      Cheers,
      -b

  101. 500! sadly enogh by on+by · · Score: -1

    toi bad it was such a poo posty - bah back to passingf out!@

  102. Trolls everywhere by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    every 2nd post now is an offtopic troll. What is Slashdot going to do? This problem is becoming larger and larger, I'm sick of their "dead at 54" and "goatsecx" posts.

  103. Andromeda streams P2P over the web... by turnstyle · · Score: 1

    My software project Andromeda builds streaming sites from collections of MP3s and other files (PHP & ASP). Groups of friends often use it to stream to each other. It's P2P not in the mass anonymous download kind of way, but more like friend2friend. Please check it out.

    --
    Here's what I do: Bitty Browser & Andromeda
  104. Here's a good strategy by hardcorejon · · Score: 1

    Here's a hypothetical strategy:

    Open source the project. Then, with sufficiently quick and easy installer (not there yet), and easy-to-use broadcasting software (getting there), massive proliferation could result.

    Then you're off to the law of large numbers. If it is really this easy for anyone to broadcast, there should be thousands of these small "community" radio stations.

    There would be many to prosecute all of them, and it wouldn't be worthwhile because the number of listeners these stations have is so small. It would become a bit like speeding, technicially 5mph over the speed limit is illegal, but generally you won't get pulled over unless you up the numbers...

    I encourage you to check out OPENdj, my rendition of an open source, UNIX-based distributed streamer. It is very full featured and has been operating on http://opendj.com/ for over a year.

    It is open source software, available for anyone to download, play with, and use.

    - jonathan.

    1. Re:Here's a good strategy by MnementhVI · · Score: 1

      But I don't like spam!

  105. there is a real solution by pixel+fairy · · Score: 2, Informative

    trying to evade thier lawers with p2p schemes and the like is not the answer. while you think you may be soving this problem, your only giving them a reason to call you a pirate(so they have an excuse to buy laws) AND promoting thier artists at the same time! its a win/win for them.

    if you really want to know why CDs cost so much, its nothing more than supply and demand. its becasue people pay that much. if no one pays that much, theyll stop charging that much (after blaming every computer user for piracy, thanks to napster)

    these assholes have money and power because we gave it to them. if we dont give them money, then they cant hire lobyyists or buy themselves senators.

    STOP SUPPORTING THEM!

    its that simple.if we continue to support them, they will continue to try to controll our lives in the intrest of thier profit and to try to make it harder for (non manufactured) artists that they cant control (becase every independant band gets money, and more importantly, mindshare that could instead go to them)

    dont support muscians who are with the RIAA. its not hard, many musicans are not with them. there are many lables that have nothing to do with the RIAA. if musicans you like are with them, write to them. if enough people do, they will notice.

    heres ia a list of RIAA labels.

    http://www.riaa.org/About-Members-1.cfm

    ive been boycotting the RIAA(and MPAA) for years now and i dont feel like im missing much. i still enjoy clubs and concerts, and i still buy CDs. (without worrying that they will break my computer) i know im not denting thier profits, but more importanly i know im not helping them either. i hope that if enough people realize what they are doing and spread the word, they will either change or no longer have the power they do.

    if you are a musician thinking of signing on with an RIAA lable, follow the url below, and keep in mind you wont get any play on internet radio stations.

    http://www.therecordindustry.com/courtney_artist _r ights.htm
    (/. puts the little space after r)

  106. The sourse code is on he website!!!! by Newer+Guy · · Score: 2

    Just look for the link!!!!

  107. /. posters = flaming ideas by jstockdale · · Score: 1

    Its late so please excuse any lack of structure in this post. Nuff said, so here we go.

    The important fact to examine with this release is the idea, not the implementation, as seems to be the authors intent, as he repeatedly notes that this is a very early beta. And contrary to the reports of other posters, it appears that he is intent on releasing the source, as there is a link on the webpage (read the damn links people) but it is just down at the moment.

    Rather than flaming the author on his lack of anonymity or direct association with the desire to counter the CARP decision, we should be praising him for putting himself on the line in an effort to fight censorship (even if it could be / is used for piracy, but thats another debate). It was this same kind of effort that allows people access to many other technologies, the most prominent in this day and age being encryption (historical note: Phil Zimmerman threw together the original copy of pgp to counter pending legislation prohibiting the dissimenation of encryption technology circa 1990).

    --
    **AA: a bunch of mindless jerks who'll be the first against the wall when the revolution comes
  108. FYI: its just been GPL'd - source on site (NM) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Posted AC as to not Karma Whore(TM)

    -jstockdale

  109. Enough Already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We get the idea. You really don't have to reply to every message that has the work "source" in it to show off your projects. You have gone from +1 Interesting to -1 Redundant.

  110. WA HEY!!!! by nut · · Score: 1

    Power to the people! I don't care whether this guy particularly succeeds as long as the idea does. I think it would be the supreme poetic justice if internet radio was transformed and transmogrified into a format that corporate interests could never have any control over. They've done their best to kill a beautiful, barely nascent digital sub-culture, and it's up to us to make sure they don't succeed. If they can't play nice, we won't let them play at all.

    Remember this is a war, or it's them or us.

    --
    Never trust a man in a blue trench coat, Never drive a car when you're dead
  111. SOURCE IS ON THE PAGE by joel8x · · Score: 1

    sorry for yelling, but it apppears no one can read - as you said, the source is right there under the download link on the page and its not dead - I just downloaded it and it has a copy of the GPL in it - so its GPL'ed also. Whats worse is the moderators modding up all of this misinformation!!

    --
    Sound waves should be free!
  112. Sorry, can I blame too much coffee? by hardcorejon · · Score: 1

    yo - sorry I got a little excited. This is kind of like my baby project, and it's 6am, no sleep, lots of coffee.

    your point is taken, i apologize for going overboard.

    - jonathan.

  113. I Wish by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wish the RIAA would just fuck off and let information be free. They are just a bunch of asswipes in suits.

    Will it only be when all geeks have microchips in their heads (running windows) that they realize that it is capitalism that is fucking up the whole world?

    Solution: abolish money, abolish the state, abolish hierachy.

  114. Could be Chinese or Japanese by Arcturax · · Score: 2

    It could be that someone in Asia is trying to run it on a Chinese or Japanese system and this program can't handle the gibberish it gets when it tries to display one of these languages in english.

    --

    --Won't that be grand? Computers and the programs will start thinking and the people will stop. - Dr. Walter Gibbs
  115. Re:Hm - this idea IS FREE, it's called OPENdj by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    someone shoot this man, thank you.

  116. 802.11a or 802.11b _local only_ broadcasts? by AgTiger · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Pirate radio stations tend to be low power, and serve their _local_ neighborhood. They can't be heard across the country, and thus they tend to avoid notice, so long as they don't interfere with other stations, and don't massively offend the listeners who discover them.

    Since 802.11a and 802.11b traffic lives in parts of the spectrum where independent unlicensed transmissions are expected and are the norm, it might be possible to fly under the RIAA's radar with the following configuration:

    - Set up a server with a 10.0.0.0/8 addressing space.
    - DON'T hook it to the internet.
    - Include a DHCP Server.
    - Include a web page to describe what people have reached and allow links to software to listen.
    - Include a submissions directory so anyone who wants to drop an MP3 or OGG on you, CAN.
    - Play interesting music that YOU like, and even DJ the broadcast. (Voice changer might be desireable.)

    Basically, all I'm doing is taking ideas presented in the movie "Pump Up the Volume" and thinking about how those ideas could be implemented using more modern methods. Done correctly, this could even be done with a mobile configuration in a vehicle.


    'Cast Hard! ;-)


    1. Re:802.11a or 802.11b _local only_ broadcasts? by bricriu · · Score: 3, Interesting

      May I just say that this is completely fscking brilliant? Wish I was allowed to mod anymore ;)

      --

      AHHHHHHH! I'm burning with goodness again!
      - Reakk, Sluggy Freelance

  117. Traceability by Salamander · · Score: 3

    Each node might not know where the root of the tree is, but they do know who their parent is. If the RIAA said "tell us who your parent is or we'll assume you're the root", iteratively, they'd find the root PDQ. This contrasts with a network like Freenet, which is designed so that each node really doesn't know where content came from and therefore isn't of much help identifying its real origin. Mesh-structured networks in general also avoid the fragility inherent in tree-structured networks.

    Streamer is not just reinventing the wheel; it's reinventing square wheels when round ones already exist.

    --
    Slashdot - News for Herds. Stuff that Splatters.
  118. Re:Untraceable? Hardly. by Mr.+Slippery · · Score: 2, Interesting
    A tool to track a spanning tree across network backbones would not be hard to write; the broadcaster is simply the root of the tree.

    Please describe the operation of such a tool. Given encrypted communication between nodes, how do you determine from the outside whether any given node is a relay or source?

    ISPs (who have the right to know how you're using their property)
    No more so than telephone companies have the "right" to eavesdrop on your conversations, or the post office to read your mail.
    ...the theft of intellectual property...
    Copying is not theft.
    fundamentally sound societies have strong processes to ensure their values are respected across all aspects of life

    "Fundamentally sound" societies are those that recongize a diversity of values. "Fundamentally sound" societies recognize that sharing information is what makes us human. "Fundamentally sound" societies are not operated for the benefit of media conglomerates.

    --
    Tom Swiss | the infamous tms | my blog
    You cannot wash away blood with blood
  119. doesn't follow the GPL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    the full source isn't even included, it's missing header files.. as gpl says you need to include all source associated with the program.

  120. posting not working? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Blah

  121. This would be great by Apreche · · Score: 2

    If it worked. Which it doesn't

    --
    The GeekNights podcast is going strong. Listen!
  122. Untraceable may not help by dstone · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's also fairly untraceable because each streamer 'host' doesn't reveal any information about whether it is actually the transmitter or not, or where it is getting it's signal from.

    I'm taking a guess here, but as long as you're still one of the upstream hosts serving an unauthorized/unroyaltied/unlicensed stream of audio, you might be shut down. Would it really matter if you were the root of a tree where the stream originated from? Even if you're not the root, you're copying and re-serving the stream yourself.

    "Did you steal this music?"
    "No, I just found this stream and I'm sharing it."

  123. Can anyone hear me? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm at this moment trying out the software. I'm GRadio.

  124. Re:Untraceable? Hardly. by glitch! · · Score: 2

    A tool to track a spanning tree across network backbones would not be hard to write; the broadcaster is simply the root of the tree.

    Here is my first thought (maybe 20 seconds worth). The root of the tree is the encoder. Why shouldn't this node also receive a copy of the stream from one of it's downstream nodes? Effectively you have a large circle now, preferably as large as possible. As for identifying all of the nodes in the tree, the nodes may simply indicate whether they can accept new connections without divulging their neighbors. This prevents a trivial tree-walking at least.

    --
    A dingo ate my sig...
  125. So how is this a solution? by TrentC · · Score: 3, Insightful

    A friend of mine and I were talking about setting up an internet radio site (or at least a recurring program); as a result, I started following the whole CARP/webcasting royalty thing. I wrote letters (yes, actual, physical letters) to my Congressmen -- I even got a reply from Senator Gordon Smith (not a form letter-type reply, either). I was pleased to see the Librarion of Congress throw out the initial recommendation, but disappointed to see the revised recommednation get accepted.

    The guys who wrote this program are completely playing into the RIAA's hands -- by basically stating that their intent is to screw the RIAA and avoid paying the fees, they give the RIAA more ammo to get even more draconian measures adopted.

    I'm not clear why everyone thinks a P2P (ooh, buzzword time!) streaming radio solution is going to make the situation any better. Our energies are better spent talking to our representatives and showing them that internet radio promotes choice and diversity in music (both for RIAA-sponsored and non-RIAA sponsored artists), pointing out that lots of smaller business will have a positive effect on the economy (not only the RIAA, but ASCAP and BMI get more royalty fees from lots of small "stations"; plus people have to buy recording/mixing/broadcasting equipment, there's those broadband connections...) I have proof in my hand that at least one Senator will listen.

    Jay (=

    1. Re:So how is this a solution? by Bobzibub · · Score: 2

      I think the best argument against yours it to point out that "money talks" and that our opponents are very wealthy.

      Sure you may have found an honest politician but the majority (who don't know http from ftp) need financial support to keep their jobs. They would gladly sacrifice non-profit internet radio in order to stay in office, and I don't blame them.

      Music listeners have already been branded as thieves. This won't change no matter what we do in the public sphere--the music companies control the agenda. If we don't buy CDs b/c on principle, the drop in sales will be blamed on priacy. If most write our representatives they will think we just want something for free, where the music industry supports jobs.

      There is no winning in the political or the economic spheres. Let them legislate. Let the laws become draconian. Only then will regular people see them for their true colours.
      -b

    2. Re:So how is this a solution? by MnementhVI · · Score: 1

      When you have a situation in a supposed democracy that allows legislation to be purchased, you have to adopt different tactics to simply writing letters to your congressmen, or signing petitions, etc. Anyway, I have no congressman, I'm in the UK.

  126. No crashes so far by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm doing okay so far. Had some problems configuring stuff earlier on, but seems to be working. It may depend on the OS (I've got W2K with SP1)

  127. Pirate radio by istewart · · Score: 1

    I find it sad that someone has come up with the idea of "pirate radio for the digital age." This means that streaming radio has lost its capacity of freedom of speech. What's really sad is that it didn't even need FCC deregulation for companies like Clear Channel and a massive power-hungry cartel known as the RIAA to move in and take over.

  128. Re:Untraceable? Hardly. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No more so than telephone companies have the "right" to eavesdrop on your conversations, or the post office to read your mail.
    Not true. The government may need a warrant for certain types of searches, but searches which do not involve human interaction (Carnivore) do not need a warrant to determine if your traffic falls under its purview or not. All networks (including telcos) privately monitor if they suspect abuse (check your terms of service). At any rate, stealing copyrighted works is not freedom of speech and is not protected. Copying is not theft.
    Most mature adults in our society would disagree - copying is theft if it done against the source's will and reduces the monetary value of their work (see the definition of fair use). Keep in mind that copyright even is listed *before* freedome of speech in the Constituion (which was not added until after ratificiation).
    "Fundamentally sound" societies are those that recongize a diversity of values.
    I agree, but there limits - your right to your values ends when you trample on my fundamental rights - not to be murdered, freedom from having my work stolen, etc. This is the basis for civilization.

  129. AllCast by gylz · · Score: 1

    AllCast have been doing this for quite a while, or at least thought about doing it back in 1996. And we`ve been experimenting for a few months too.
    I think the biggest problem with p2p streaming is the fact that clients really need to upload more than they download; bandwidth is still expensive for most people, and somebody connecting via modem isn`t really going to be able to contribute anything back to the network.
    At the moment our p2p client helps a bit with this in that it lets you get 2 channels from 2 different sources, ie Mono or Stereo, depending on how well connected you are. But one major improvement would be if the audio stream was somehow layered in a way that would allow you to build up audio "quality", eg. 1 connection gets you 24KBps, 2 = 48 KBps etc. Maybe this could be an extension of Ogg Vorbis?

  130. Anyone looked at Furthur?? by makisupa · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I haven't seen a post on it so far, but I may have just missed it on a day that I wasn't checking /.

    Anyway...

    - a p2p live music sharing system that's just blown my mind.
    - open source
    - much more searchable than other such software
    - transfers only high-quality 44.1/16 (shn-compressed) audio
    - the traded artists want you to take part in it (all traded artists encourage taping/trading)

    This is a wonderful piece of software, built by the people, benefits bands, and doesn't have jack to do with record companies.

    I definitely suggest giving it a spin, you're likely to discover a band you'll love:

    http://sourceforge.net/furthurnet
    http://www.fu rthurnet.com/

    -Jackson

    --
    "A matter of internal security, the age old cry of the oppressor" - Jean Luc Picard
  131. Streamer, anyone get it working? by BrookHarty · · Score: 2

    Streamer, anyone get it working?

    All the channels seem to drop out, even the lowest 24k channels. Good idea, if it Worked.

  132. Working for me... by SailFly · · Score: 2, Informative

    I downloaded both the "streamer.zip" and the "streamer_source.zip" files which have links on the page.

    streamer.exe is a console program that handles the network connections, and also is a basic web server interface, so you connect to your localhost IP (127.0.0.1) to the streamer port (8464).

    I downloaded the Oddcast DSP plug-in for Winamp, and it seems to work ok.

    This could easily be ported to *nix and other platforms. However, when compiling the Visual Studio project I get:

    fatal error C1083: Cannot open include file: 'IAINLIB.h': No such file or directory

    The author's e-mail account is also "IAIN", so I assume this is his own library of utility routines. I tried to work around it, and it appears this header has error handling and some necessary typedef declarations.

    I wish the author would share these files at SourceForge.net to provide a forum for more discussion and easier distribution via FTP or CVS.

    I would be an interested developer, and would contribute to this project in some way.

  133. Can't we legally limit who accesses? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Isn't there something we can do that would be legally binding that could say something like "If you are law enforcement or RRIAA then your not allowed on this site"?

    Isn't there something we can do to even block them from accessing resources?

  134. don't use specific port numbers! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    if you claim a port number for your protocol you make it easy to block without looking for protocol tags within packet data.

    allow your agents to run on any port, often including common ones such as 80, 22, 20, 21, 53, 500, 443, 8080, 8000, etc. (haven't looked at the software, if you're using udp; 53 and 500 are the only useful ones in that list, add other common udp ports [111, 113?])

    if you use a unique port number you allow 10 year old network equipment to easily be configured to block your traffic.

    (keeping a mix of port numbers and allowing users to view & modify theirs is important for local user firewall configs and for people behind firewalls that can't make outbound connections to specific ports)

    additional feature: allow your software to connect through a normal http proxy. proxies that support SSL are the easiest. connect to them and send a 'CONNECT x.y.z.a:443\r\n' and be on your way.

  135. Re:Hm - this idea IS FREE, it's called OPENdj by MnementhVI · · Score: 1

    Spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam wonderful spam. (Sorry, but someone is trying to piggyback on my 15 mins of fame)

  136. No, they're asymmetric, not half-duplex by billstewart · · Score: 1
    You're incorrect about modems. They're 56kbps downstream (if you're lucky, which you seldom are) and 28.8 or 33.6kbps upstream - they're just different speeds in the two directions. Lots of DSL service is also asymmetric - fast downstream, slower upstream.

    The reason your download speed drops when you're doing lots of upspeed is usually because either you're interfering with upstream TCP ACKs (which slows down your downstream), or you're running out of CPU or some memory buffer or other resource your drivers are using (which shouldn't happen at such as slow speed, but could.)

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    Bill Stewart
    New Fast-Compression-only CPR http://preview.tinyurl.com/dy575ks
  137. They're also asymmetric, not half-duplex by billstewart · · Score: 1

    Half-duplex means you're only able to transmit or receive, but not able to do both at once. Ethernets work that way. DSL doesn't - lots of DSL and cable-modem services are asymmetric, which means that you get more bandwidth downstream than upstream, but you really can use both directions at once if your equipment supports it, which most does. You might be connecting your PC to your DSL modem using a 10mbps Ethernet in half-duplex mode, but both pieces of equipment have enough buffering that they can still keep the DSL pipe full. It's more likely that what's slowing your download speed is that if you hog the upstream with uploads, you're not leaving enough room for ACKs to the sites you're downloading from. In particular, you can send data to the DSL faster than it can actually transmit, so you can clog up its buffers (either in the ADSL modem itself, or more likely in one of the upstream ATM trunks that you're sharing on the way to the upstream router.) If you want to play with prioritization, you can reduce this effect a bit by keeping your ftp/http transmits a bit below your upstream bandwidth limits (if you know them - sometimes the bottleneck is farther upstream, though in DSL that's more an issue for downstream.)

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    Bill Stewart
    New Fast-Compression-only CPR http://preview.tinyurl.com/dy575ks
  138. YANAL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thankfully YANAL (you are not a lawyer). but I do agree with the rest of your post.

    By using "Conspiracy" in that way, of course, you're muddying the term. This falls into the same misuse of speech as "Theft of Service", or "Pirating". It's making something *sound* illegal.

    As long as free speech exists, I can tell someone how to load a shotgun and fire a shell. If my advice was used in the act of a crime, it's not conspiracy unless I had knowledge that a specific crime was going to take place. And if I'm stupid (read G. Gordon Liddy stupid) I can tell people over the airwaves that they ought to fire their rounds at the ATF when they come knocking at your door. That's still not conspiracy. Negligent? Perhaps. Conspirator? No.

    So it appears to me that merely broadcasting a message telling people how to avoid detection by the RIAA/CIA/FBI/MPAA/BSA/ATF/DEA/SS/Scientologists doesn't quite qualify as conspiracy -- that is as long as code is still considered speech.

    But, he will get a C&D by the RIAA.

  139. Petition to Repeal CARP by Snover · · Score: 1

    http://www.petitiononline.com/nocarp/petition.html

    Sign it and show the Librarian of Congress that he made a BAD DECISION!

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    1. Re:Petition to Repeal CARP by Cliff · · Score: 2

      Done. Thanks for the pointer.

  140. test - please ignore by DavidJA · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    thank you

    1. Re:test - please ignore by DavidJA · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      blah