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Dreamcast Broadband Adapters

JayBonci writes "Dust off the old Dreamcast. If you're one of the many like myself who still enjoy their Dreamcast or are aspiring DC hackers, then you may want to pay attention to a quiet announcement by CSI, the Japanese manufacturer of the Dreamcast Broadband Adapter (flaky, but understandable translation provided by the fish). If you have no idea what the BBA is, the official page here. If CSI gets 1000 pre-orders for the unit, they will be willing to make another production run. Keep in mind that these units are very useful for the Dreamcast Linux efforts and NetBSD/Dreamcast, and that Japanese units work on US systems."

186 comments

  1. First! by CmdrTuco · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Yeahhhh!

  2. Slowly into that good night by ObviousGuy · · Score: 2, Troll

    It's hard to believe that the Dreamcast, with it's better graphics handling and ease of programming, ever lost out to the PS2.

    I guess if you've got the resources of Sony, you can pretty much screw anyone you like.

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    1. Re:Slowly into that good night by commodoresloat · · Score: 4, Insightful
      It's hard to believe that the Dreamcast, with it's better graphics handling and ease of programming, ever lost out to the PS2.

      I guess if you've got the resources of Sony, you can pretty much screw anyone you like.

      It's hard to believe that the Betamax, with its better sound and picture quality, ever lost out to the VHS.

      I guess if you've got the resources of JVC, you can pretty much screw anyone you like.

    2. Re:Slowly into that good night by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      You're so clever! You took the original post and switched a few words... You're my hero, because you're so smart.

      Really. I love you!

    3. Re:Slowly into that good night by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you saying that Matsushita is more powerful than Sony?

      Whatever dude!

    4. Re:Slowly into that good night by commodoresloat · · Score: 2

      It was a joke. I suppose I was making a point - that a superior technology losing in the marketplace is not always the result of some nefarious conspiracy of control. But it struck me as interesting that the same comment made about another technology sounded so ridiculous.

    5. Re:Slowly into that good night by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you can place blame for Dreamcast's failure at Sony's feet as much as at Sega's. Sony's advertising blitz following the Dreamcast debut and continuing for almost a year until the PS2 was actually released got people to hold off buying the Dreamcast.

      The PS2 with its inability to do anti-aliasing and skimpy video RAM simply didn't deliver, but by that time the damage was already done to Sega.

    6. Re:Slowly into that good night by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Common knowlege around these parts... all you need is people to THINK its better and it sells.... *cough* MS *cough*

    7. Re:Slowly into that good night by packeteer · · Score: 4, Interesting

      oh it brings a tear to my eye to hear you say that... i agree with you very much and you pointed out just a few of the many features the dreamcast has... it has TWICE as much video ram as the ps2 while the ps2 has twice as FAST video ram which means that programmers must waste their time coding swapping functions and worrying about management...

      also the 128 bit (xbox has nothing on the dreamcast here with its 32 bit p3) 200 mhz risc processor just kicks ass... its easy to compile linux for risc so practically any software can be burned onto a cdr and the dreamcast can read it...

      i am very glad and i will be pre-ordering possibly 2 or 3 of these... i wanted to hack my dc more but $200 for the nic was too much...

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    8. Re:Slowly into that good night by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have to admit that I'm a little biased... I did a little work on the Dreamcast (well, the dev tools, not the machine)

    9. Re:Slowly into that good night by packeteer · · Score: 1

      wow that must have been a lot of fun... i have had to hook up my dc over the serial cable to laod up my own custom games... i am learning some opengl and have discovered that the DC is one of the few systems that can be considered beautiful... it has the functionality of a PC with the reliability of a console... its an awsome box and i really enjoy coding for it... so i guess im biased too

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    10. Re:Slowly into that good night by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, the dev platform (Katana) looked nothing like the actual device, but it was very nice to have everyone in the office gawk at the cool gaming device.

      It doesn't seem like anyone works with the CE capabilities, so my work was for naught. :-(

    11. Re:Slowly into that good night by packeteer · · Score: 1

      haha sorry but im not a fan of CE... really i only use it for the cheap hardware and the streamlined layout of an all in one box with the benefit of KNOWING what system other people who play your game will run on... i kind of stopped working with it a while ago before i got to anything good but i think maybe ill start into it again...

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    12. Re:Slowly into that good night by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

      I guess if you've got the resources of JVC, you can pretty much screw anyone you like.

      Wow. Look out. It's mister KOMEDY KING himself.

      You're a fucking fag.

    13. Re:Slowly into that good night by evilviper · · Score: 3

      Does this old betamax example bug the hell out of anyone else? The betamax's problem was both being less open than the VCR, and the shorter tapes. Betamax wasn't an all out better option, SO STOP USING IT AS A DAMN EXAMPLE. It just weakens your point

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    14. Re:Slowly into that good night by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Well, the dev platform (Katana) looked nothing like the actual device, but it was very nice to have everyone in the office gawk at the cool gaming device.

      It does not seem like anyone works with the CE capabilities, so my work was for naught. :-(

    15. Re:Slowly into that good night by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      It's hard to believe that the Betamax, with its better sound and picture quality, ever lost out to the VHS.

      I guess if you've got the resources of JVC, you can pretty much screw anyone you like.


      I remember reading that one of the big underground factors was the porn industry - they decided they'd sell VHS movies and not Betamax.

      So if you've got the resources of the porn industry, you can pretty much screw anyone you like.

    16. Re:Slowly into that good night by Sarcasm_Orgasm · · Score: -1

      You're such a cunt! Look I took your crappy post & switched a few words... Am I your hero now bitch? Don't tell me yet, because I gotta Fart.

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    17. Re:Slowly into that good night by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The dreamcast isn't really 128-bit cpu. Instruction size is 16-bit, with data size standard as 32-bit. The 128-bit description of it arises due to the fact it has 2 4x4 vector math instructions, which pretty much give it all its 3d power :)
      Its a very 'simple' but ridiculously elegant and beautiful machine.
      Hopefully we'll get even more people coming to the scene, since it just kicks the x-box scenes ass. The x-box dev scene is almost entirely centered around use of m$ devkits, and even if it weren't its just such a dull piece of hardware who'd want to dev lowlevel for it anyway!
      Also, could I just point out that dreamcast does NOT use WinCE as an OS. Microsoft did provide a seperate wince devkit for the system, but only about 4 games were ever made with it, and they were pretty primitive/crap. Microsoft tried to get clever with the tlb/mmu and failed miserably... its best use was DirectShow for an mpeg player.
      Regards,
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    18. Re:Slowly into that good night by shepd · · Score: 3, Informative

      >It's hard to believe that the Betamax, with its better sound and picture quality, ever lost out to the VHS.

      Oh no, not this one again.

      Picture quality -- about 10% better (barely) in units from the same era. A modern $70 VCR still beats the pants off it, though. BetaMax had only an extra 10 lines of resolution, and a very slightly less noisy picture going for it at the time. Not to mention this is largely due to running the tape faster, which happens to be their (alternate) reason for dying. You have to switch tapes during just about anything if you want the quality to beat VHS. Hardly anything to write to slashdot about... :-)

      Sound quality -- AFAIK, while VHS started out mono, a full HiFi Stereo VHS VCR gives a similar fidelity to a Sony Betamax VCR, although without actually hearing a unit it is hard to tell (not that VHS HiFi sounds bad -- its right inbetween a decent Metal casette and a good CD).

      Besides, Sony eats their young. And therefore its their fault Beta died. And a good thing, too.

      It's just one in a very long list of failures of Sony in the US, along with 8mm, Memory Sticks, and MD. Sony just can't seem to figure out what makes us Americans buy stuff, and probably never will as long as they keep it so very proprietary.

      Here's a little more on that format war, for those interested.

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    19. Re:Slowly into that good night by huntz0r · · Score: 2, Funny

      I remember reading that one of the big underground factors was the porn industry - they decided they'd sell VHS movies and not Betamax.
      So if you've got the resources of the porn industry, you can pretty much screw anyone you like.


      Well... that's kinda what the porn industry is about, no? ;)

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    20. Re:Slowly into that good night by garcia · · Score: 2

      it was the controller. Just like the XBox. Nuff said.

    21. Re:Slowly into that good night by GutBomb · · Score: 2

      It's just one in a very long list of failures of Sony in the US, along with ... MD...

      Sony just can't seem to figure out what makes us Americans buy stuff


      How american of you. MD is wildly popular in europe, and there are just as many europeans as americans, if not more. 80 million alone in germany. Almost everyone I know has an MD player in thier stereo, and another portable.

      Americans are not the only people in the world that buy consumer electronics outside of Japan.

    22. Re:Slowly into that good night by shepd · · Score: 1

      >MD is wildly popular in europe, and there are just as many europeans as americans, if not more.

      After being to Europe (the UK specifically) personally, I can tell you all that this is an overstatement.

      While MD is used and is available in the UK (unlike America, where it is Dead with a capital D) from what I saw just a few months ago it is -- by far -- less popular that CDs, which are its rival. I would safely suggest the ratio is much less than 1 MD player per CD player.

      Perhaps you know a wildly different set of people than me, or perhaps you are being too German-centric?

      >Americans are not the only people in the world that buy consumer electronics outside of Japan.

      I know. Europeans have as well, as it seems, by majority rejected MD as a standard. Thank God too because I don't like Sony ruling on how I can use their format (did they ever make it computer recordable? and if they did is it even 10% of the speed, or 100% of the data, or even 200% the price of an 8 cm CD-R?)

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    23. Re:Slowly into that good night by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did you bother to actually read his post? He clearly says "It's just one in a very long list of failures of Sony in the US "

    24. Re:Slowly into that good night by DeepZenPill · · Score: 1

      This analogy might actually work with the PS2 and Dreamcast. The Dreamcast used GD-ROM's, which could be compared to shorter tapes. But most importantly, the graphics for ps2 games blew the DC away when the ps2 came out. Not only that, but there were actually some fun games that looked good too. Considering this, it's very easy to see why the PS2 kicked DC's ass. The Dreamcast might have done some things better as the Betamax did, but the PS2 appealed more to the market. Shiny new expensive toy vs. Older less shiny toy. Most customers don't care how easy it is to develop for a system, and sales are what drive the system. No developer is going to boycott developing for a system if it's wildy successful but hard to code for.

      BTW, Dreamcast was the last gaming platform I bought, and I was sorry to see it fade away and die, but when I bought it I knew it couldn't compete once the new generation arrived.

    25. Re:Slowly into that good night by lordgarth · · Score: 1

      >While MD is used and is available in the UK (unlike America, where it is Dead with a capital D) from what I saw just a >few months ago it is -- by far -- less popular that CDs, which are its rival

      It's not popular but it's definately not dead. Myself and several of my friends use MD. On a recent business trip to Boston, I observed many students walking around with them. It was never meant to compete with CDs. It's original competition was cassette tape, but I believe that competition has now shifted to MP3 players. I'm not sorry I invested in MD 8 years ago. It served it's purpose (Mobile recordable format) and now I've moved on to MP3 players. I'll continue to use my MD player until it breaks.

    26. Re:Slowly into that good night by damien_kane · · Score: 1

      It's just one in a very long list of failures of Sony in the US, along with 8mm, Memory Sticks, and MD

      1. Memory sticks are widely used in a variety of digital cameras.
      2. Ever since Napster Sony ramped up its MD campaign in america and theyr actually quickly gaining popularity. I know a lot of people who have them

    27. Re:Slowly into that good night by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When did PS2 look better than Dreamcast? It has low resolution textures and that awfull shimmering on moving horizontal lines due to a half-height frame buffer. Honestly, Dreamcast games look better than PS2.

      Sony was very good and generating hype for the fanboys, though. Remember when the PS2 was supposed to be the ultimate, 90 million polygon per second supercomputer which would blow away everything imaginable? Well, as delivered it took 3 times longer to program games which looked 80% as good as the Dreamcast. And you got to pay 3 times the price. What a joke.

    28. Re:Slowly into that good night by phaze3000 · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Not only that, but there were actually some fun games that looked good too.

      As an owner of both a PS2 and a Dreamcast (amongst quite a few other consoles) I was quite puzzled by this comment. The PS2 release games were pretty piss-poor to be honest (with the possible exception of Tekken Tag if fighting games are your thing, but IMO it doesn't come close to the almighty Soul Calibur). Even now, I'd say the Dreamcast has way more top quality titles:

      PS2:

      • GT3
      • GTA3
      • Ico
      • Tekken Tag
      • Rez

      Dreamcast:

      • Soul Calibur
      • Jet Set Radio
      • Virtua Tennis
      • Ferrari F355 Challenge
      • Shenmue
      • Rez

      With the exception of GTA3, you could argue that for every PS2 game there's another in the same genre on the Dreamcast that's better. Of course, the DC didn't have Sony's marketing might, or the selling point that it would play DVDs too...

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    29. Re:Slowly into that good night by Neillparatzo · · Score: 1

      They're both getting Ikaruga. Who cares? ;)

    30. Re:Slowly into that good night by Fishstick · · Score: 1

      Yeah, that walkman idea was a real flop, too. ;-)

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    31. Re:Slowly into that good night by shepd · · Score: 1

      >Memory sticks are widely used in a variety of digital cameras.

      Correction:

      Memory sticks are widely used in a variety of SONY digital cameras. Which, by common consensus, are crap.

      Those memory sticks are full of DRM and likely won't ever be readable in anything other than Sony equipment unless companies want to pay Sony for "rights" to a product that is already dated.

      >Ever since Napster Sony ramped up its MD campaign in america and theyr actually quickly gaining popularity

      Yeah, I saw the ads in the Future Shop toilet paper they always send me.

      Seems to me MD still doesn't beat 8 cm MP3-CD in any way at all, even with the LP versions.

      Sony can advertise all it likes. As long as the process for making an MP3 CD of "napster" songs is this:

      - Download music
      - Burn music in under 2 minutes

      While the MD version is this

      - Download music
      - Hook up MD recorder to SPDIF
      - Hook SPDIF to SCMS stripper
      - Hook SCMS stripper to soundcard
      - Open MP3 in winamp
      - Push record on MD recorder
      - Push play in MP3 player
      - Title the song
      - Rinse, lather and repeat (until you run out of space on your MD disc, which you will far quicker, even with LP mode, than you would for equivalent quality MP3s)...

      It isn't going to be popular. AFAIK, Sony has no easy to get MD-Recorder drives for a computer. Not to mention the media is approximately 10x more expensive than CD-R.

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    32. Re:Slowly into that good night by packeteer · · Score: 1

      indeed x-box is a horrible system for hacking... i love all the available open tools for the DC and despise the thought of having to mattle microsoft every time i want to hack their x-box as my hobby... no thanks ill stick with my dc... btw www.boob.co.uk owns and i have learned much in the past there...

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    33. Re:Slowly into that good night by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whoa. Who let tangent man on the loose? Next up a good ol' microsoft bashing session. Hey it's not topic related but that's what tangents are good for..

    34. Re:Slowly into that good night by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      How German of you.

      I'm in Europe, and I don't know anyone who has an MD player. I do know many people who have MP3 players, myself included.

      Ironically, the people I do know with MD players are all American.

      Germans aren't the only people in Europe, nor are your friends.

    35. Re:Slowly into that good night by StillAnonymous · · Score: 1

      Thank you! I'll even go one further and argue that the quality of the picture and sound on Beta was "negligably" better than VHS. I mean, come on, picture quality back then wasn't anything great to begin with, people had shitty TVs and shitty connections. I never noticed a better picture on the few Beta tapes I watched. At least not to a point where I could attribute the picture quality to Beta's "superiority".

      Longer tapes were simply more useful to people and Beta blew it big.

    36. Re:Slowly into that good night by rodgerd · · Score: 2

      They didn't decide, it was decided for them - Sony didn't want family unfriendly filth on Beta, so the story goes, and the adults who bought videos went for VHS.

      Mum and Dad may not want little Johnny watching "Anal Annie's Greatest Hits", but they wanted to be able to watch it themselves.

      It's interesting to view the online gaming plans for the X-Box and PS2 in that light - Sony are making it lasseiz-faire, Microsoft are promising control, safety and decency.

    37. Re:Slowly into that good night by FuegoFuerte · · Score: 1

      Slow down there turbo... Beta isn't completely gone, even today. Many studios use it (yes, even today) for the simple fact that it is indeed so much better than VHS. As recently as a few years ago you could spend $30,000 on a professional video camera using... you guessed it, the Beta format. I'm sure you can still buy them, though I'd guess the price has dropped a bit. Just because you happen to have piss-poor quality on the TV screen doesn't mean there's anything wrong with the quality of the format. That would be akin to saying, "SACDs aren't much better than my regular audio CDs. I mean, when I play them through this $10 pair of computer speakers, I can't hardly notice a difference."

    38. Re:Slowly into that good night by cpatterson1177 · · Score: 1

      I loved my DC. The gamne selection kept dwindling, so I had to trade in for a XBox. It had great games, though.

    39. Re:Slowly into that good night by GutBomb · · Score: 2

      i am actuyally living in sweden, however, I have been to germany and seen many md players in shops, lots of people on the trains i was riding on had them, and all of my friends there had them too. I mentioned germany because they are the most populated country in europe. Now, as for sweden I have noticed just as many md players as in germany. sure it's not a ratio of 1:1 with cd players, but it definitely is with cassettes and mp3 players, which it is positioned against, not CDs. I always think it is funny wathcing american movies that take place in the not-to-distant future and they all use MDs as data storage :) but anyway, i am niether german, nor swedish, nor even european. I am an american travelling europe.

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    Fuck you penislips. The plural form of virus is VIRUSES. Piss off kitten cake fuckstick bitch motherfucker with your snarky asslicking butthole fuckmouth shit bitch rim job fucker.
    1. Re:phirst poast phirst poast by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      dear God man how much time did you spend writing that? you need a hobby.

      but shit those haikus were fucking hilarious, and almost all 5-7-5. a true dilemma for moderators....

  4. *BSD is dying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    It is official; Netcraft confirms: *BSD is dying

    One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered *BSD community when IDC confirmed that *BSD market share has dropped yet again, now down to less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of a recent Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.

    You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood.

    FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers. The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time FreeBSD developers Jordan Hubbard and Mike Smith only serve to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: FreeBSD is dying.

    Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.

    OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.

    Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.

    All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS dilettante dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.

    Fact: *BSD is dying

    1. Re:*BSD is dying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      WHO GIVES A FUCKING RATS ASS!?... Just buy Windows XP, you'll still be able to wank to that, just like you do on BSD, Cocksucker...

  5. [on by] A Visit from St. Goatse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    'Twas the night before Goatse, when all through the house
    Not a penis was stirring, not even with mouth;
    The Giver was hung by the chimney with care,
    In hopes that St. Goatse soon would be there;

    The children were nestled all snug in their beds,
    While visions of anal sex danced in their heads;
    And Katz in his 'kerchief, and I in my cap,
    Had just settled down for a fuck in the sack.

    When up in my anus there arose such a clatter,
    I sprang from the bed to see Katz start to splatter.
    Away to the bathroom I flew like a flash,
    Tore open my anus and looked at the gash.

    The moon in the glass had a vibrant red glow
    Gave the lustre of sunset to my nutsack below,
    When, what to my wondering eyes should appear,
    But a miniature sleigh, and eight tiny reindeer!

    With a little old driver, so lively and quickse,
    I knew in a moment it must be St. Goatse.
    More rapid than eagles his coursers they came,
    And he whistled, and shouted, and called them by name;

    "Now, TACO! now, JAMIE! now, MICHEAL and TIMMY!
    On, CHRISD! on HEMOS! on, PUDGEY and CLIFFY!
    To the top of the ass! fronts to the the wall!
    Now pound away! pound away! pound away all!"

    As faggots that before the wild hurricane fly,
    When they meet with a hetero, mount the next guy,
    So up to the house-top the coursers they flew,
    With the sleigh full of sex-toys, and Goatse pics too.

    And then, in a twinkling, I heard on the roof
    The moaning and pawing of each little poof.
    As I drew in my ass, and was turning around,
    Down the chimney St. Goatse came with a bound.

    He was dressed as a furry, from his head to his feet,
    And his clothes were all tarnished with urine and shit;
    A bundle of sex-toys he had flung on his back,
    And he looked like a hooker just flapping his sack.

    His eyes -- how they twinkled! his dimples how merry!
    His ass cheeks like roses, his cock like a cherry!
    His cute little mouth was drawn up like a bow,
    And the beard of his scrotum as white as the snow;

    The stump of a blunt he held tight in his teeth,
    And the smoke it encircled his head like a wreath;
    He had a broad face and was a bit smelly,
    He shook, when he wanked like a bowlful of jelly.

    He was chubby and plump, a right jolly old elf,
    And I laughed when I saw him beat off himself;
    A wink of his eye and a twist of his head,
    Soon gave me to know I had nothing to dread;

    He spoke not a word, but went straight to his work,
    And filled all the stockings with smelly big turds,
    He layed a big log right under my nose,
    And giving a nod, up the chimney he rose;

    He sprang to his sleigh, to his team gave a whistle,
    And away they all flew like a fucking great missile.
    But I heard him exclaim, ere he drove out of sight,
    "HAPPY GOATSE TO ALL, AND TO ALL A GOOD-NIGHT!"

  6. wow by nyquist_theorem · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Ok - this is a *big* deal. Anyone who's surfed Ebay looking for a $150USD DC BBA knows that they're horrifically overvalued for what they are - a bit of plastic and an Realtek (8139?) ethernet chip. I wonder what other companies might think of re-tooling up their production lines in light of the fact that their discontinued products sellon the used market for well over the original MSRP? (Roland TB-303, anyone?)

    --
    -- "Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge." (Charles Darwin)
    1. Re:wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      just sold mine on ebay for $160... had two other auctions of $170 and $150 that the winner didn't pay.

    2. Re:wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually if you are running BSD or Linux, it doesn't even have to be 100% software compatible.
      For a production run, you can probably get away with $25 a piece. Sell it at $50 a piece with Linux source code, you get $25K for about a month worth of work.

      Anyone want to make some $$$ ?

    3. Re:wow by RobertFisher · · Score: 2

      As with any item sold on a free market, the price is set by the supply, relative to the demand. It doesn't matter what the actual item is. A casual inspection of the Antique Roadshow on PBS will give you some indication of this phenomenon to the extreme. Collectors are willing to purchase items (Pez dispensers, teddy bears, 1950s toys) which the bulk of the population might view as near-worthless novelty items for excessive sums of cash. As always, the more limited the number, the higher the price.

      In this case, the supply is extremely limited, because one could only purchase a DC BBA for a short period of time, directly from Sega's website. As I recall, they were not even available from Amazon or other retailers. Shortly thereafer, the DC got yanked, and all the BBAs were yanked from production as well. At the same time, while only a very small number of games were ever produced to support broadband, the limited quantity makes them very highly prized items. (ie, We BBA owners love to own yer non-BBA asses in Unreal Tournament. heh.)

      Bob

      --
      Science, like Nature, must also be tamed, with a view turned towards its preservation.
    4. Re:wow by packeteer · · Score: 1

      ok sorry but 25k a month sounds great to joe-consumer but for suit-wearing-business-guy will not think its worth his time... here is hopw much they will cost... take their number of gerunteed units, 1000 (remember if they arent going to slel less they wont do it) divide that into what the cost of production including re-tooling is... and bam thats your cost... so if its going to cost em $100,000 to make em they are going to be at least $100 a peice... they WONT lose money one this...

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      unzip; strip; touch; finger; mount; fsck; more; yes; unmount; sleep
  7. Hmm... by rakslice · · Score: 2

    I wonder what we could expect to pay for one of these if the order goes through...

    I've been sort of kicking myself for not buying one at a reasonable price before the supply died out. But now I might have my chance.

    1. Re:Hmm... by packeteer · · Score: 1

      oh my god i had this great idea but was foiled by the overpriced DC nics... here is how it goes...

      1. buy 10 dc's @ $25 a peice
      2. buy 10 nics @ $50 a peice (lets hope)
      3. hook em together and setup a boew^H^H^H^H *duck* i mean setup a sweet gaming room... thats it
      4.????
      5.profit!

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    2. Re:Hmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Isn't it ironic that the name of the company making BBA is CSI. Isn't CSI a TV show about investigating death things ?

  8. Insider's scoop: Why FreeBSD is dying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    The End of FreeBSD

    [ed. note: in the following text, former FreeBSD developer Mike Smith gives his reasons for abandoning FreeBSD]

    When I stood for election to the FreeBSD core team nearly two years ago, many of you will recall that it was after a long series of debates during which I maintained that too much organisation, too many rules and too much formality would be a bad thing for the project.

    Today, as I read the latest discussions on the future of the FreeBSD project, I see the same problem; a few new faces and many of the old going over the same tired arguments and suggesting variations on the same worthless schemes. Frankly I'm sick of it.

    FreeBSD used to be fun. It used to be about doing things the right way. It used to be something that you could sink your teeth into when the mundane chores of programming for a living got you down. It was something cool and exciting; a way to spend your spare time on an endeavour you loved that was at the same time wholesome and worthwhile.

    It's not anymore. It's about bylaws and committees and reports and milestones, telling others what to do and doing what you're told. It's about who can rant the longest or shout the loudest or mislead the most people into a bloc in order to legitimise doing what they think is best. Individuals notwithstanding, the project as a whole has lost track of where it's going, and has instead become obsessed with process and mechanics.

    So I'm leaving core. I don't want to feel like I should be "doing something" about a project that has lost interest in having something done for it. I don't have the energy to fight what has clearly become a losing battle; I have a life to live and a job to keep, and I won't achieve any of the goals I personally consider worthwhile if I remain obligated to care for the project.

    Discussion

    I'm sure that I've offended some people already; I'm sure that by the time I'm done here, I'll have offended more. If you feel a need to play to the crowd in your replies rather than make a sincere effort to address the problems I'm discussing here, please do us the courtesy of playing your politics openly.

    From a technical perspective, the project faces a set of challenges that significantly outstrips our ability to deliver. Some of the resources that we need to address these challenges are tied up in the fruitless metadiscussions that have raged since we made the mistake of electing officers. Others have left in disgust, or been driven out by the culture of abuse and distraction that has grown up since then. More may well remain available to recruitment, but while the project is busy infighting our chances for successful outreach are sorely diminished.

    There's no simple solution to this. For the project to move forward, one or the other of the warring philosophies must win out; either the project returns to its laid-back roots and gets on with the work, or it transforms into a super-organised engineering project and executes a brilliant plan to deliver what, ultimately, we all know we want.

    Whatever path is chosen, whatever balance is struck, the choosing and the striking are the important parts. The current indecision and endless conflict are incompatible with any sort of progress.

    Trying to dissect the above is far beyond the scope of any parting shot, no matter how distended. All I can really ask of you all is to let go of the minutiae for a moment and take a look at the big picture. What is the ultimate goal here? How can we get there with as little overhead as possible? How would you like to be treated by your fellow travellers?

    Shouts

    To the Slashdot "BSD is dying" crowd - big deal. Death is part of the cycle; take a look at your soft, pallid bodies and consider that right this very moment, parts of you are dying. See? It's not so bad.

    To the bulk of the FreeBSD committerbase and the developer community at large - keep your eyes on the real goals. It's when you get distracted by the politickers that they sideline you. The tireless work that you perform keeping the system clean and building is what provides the platform for the obsessives and the prima donnas to have their moments in the sun. In the end, we need you all; in order to go forwards we must first avoid going backwards.

    To the paranoid conspiracy theorists - yes, I work for Apple too. No, my resignation wasn't on Steve's direct orders, or in any way related to work I'm doing, may do, may not do, or indeed what was in the tea I had at lunchtime today. It's about real problems that the project faces, real problems that the project has brought upon itself. You can't escape them by inventing excuses about outside influence, the problem stems from within.

    To the politically obsessed - give it a break, if you can. No, the project isn't a lemonade stand anymore, but it's not a world-spanning corporate juggernaut either and some of the more grandiose visions going around are in need of a solid dose of reality. Keep it simple, stupid.

    To the grandstanders, the prima donnas, and anyone that thinks that they can hold the project to ransom for their own agenda - give it a break, if you can. When the current core were elected, we took a conscious stand against vigorous sanctions, and some of you have exploited that. A new core is going to have to decide whether to repeat this mistake or get tough. I hope they learn from our errors.

    Future

    I started work on FreeBSD because it was fun. If I'm going to continue, it has to be fun again. There are things I still feel obligated to do, and with any luck I'll find the time to meet those obligations.

    However I don't feel an obligation to get involved in the political mess the project is in right now. I tried, I burnt out. I don't feel that my efforts were worthwhile. So I won't be standing for election, I won't be shouting from the sidelines, and I probably won't vote in the next round of ballots.

    You could say I'm packing up my toys. I'm not going home just yet, but I'm not going to play unless you can work out how to make the project somewhere fun to be again.

    = Mike

    --

    To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. -- Theodore Roosevelt
  9. site in japanese by dcstimm · · Score: 1

    Anata no namae wa non desu ka? What is your name? watashi wa dreamcast Linux ga suki desu! I like dreamcase linux! watashi wa DC Braudband adapter ga suki desu! same as above:-)

    1. Re:site in japanese by winne+too · · Score: 1

      ano... DC BBA wa ikura desu ka? hitotsu ga kaitai desu.

    2. Re:site in japanese by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Object wo verb+n desu

      hitotsu wo kaitai n desu

    3. Re:site in japanese by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      baka

    4. Re:site in japanese by winne+too · · Score: 1

      usually correct ( mizu (w)o kudasai ), although "n desu"~"desu yo".
      in expressions of desire however, it's [meishi] ga [verb-v2+tai] desu.

      at least according to my book ^_^. please do correct me if you have a related url.

    5. Re:site in japanese by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, kaitai isn't a verb; it's more of an adjective (same as takai, etc.) It retains some of its verb-like properties, however, so either wo or ga is acceptable. ga is more correct.

      Of course, neither verb nor adjective are appropriate, as neither of these constructs exist in Japanese. It's forcing western grammar upon an unrelated language.

  10. OMG by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Hoi jowha! Moonpiewalkah! Eemin ooblity rashakae volena ed poostu. Ablahreeky! I like b(o)(o)bs! Erial qitbre lewosterkag bongie poombasicity.

  11. Jews versus the coloreds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    Take a look at the Hollywood producers and record executives. They are all Jews. What is funnier is how these Jews get rich off the colored people. When you see a rapster, the person really raking in the money is his Jew agent and record company. The Jews exploit colored people as much or more than they exploit the White Race. That is the way of a Jew.

    Oh the Jews will whoop and holler when a White Man runs Texaco, but have you ever seen a Jew whoop and holler about there being too few colored people in the board rooms of the so called "entertainment industry". No, the Jews aren't interested in "affirmative action" when it interferes with their blood sucking of another race.

    Learn more about the Jews

  12. Well.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    I want my n64 DD before I will buy this... and slashdot has the worst posting script

    1. Re:Well.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LOL. You want a N64 DD? Let me guess, you also own a virtual boy and a power glove?

  13. "BLING BLING" NOT "OY VEY"!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
  14. "OY VEY IS MIR" not "YO MY [NIGGA|WHOADIE]" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What exactly is a "whoadie" anyway? I mean I know they have some weird words in Yiddish, but damn.

  15. FUCK YOU, ASSHOLE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait
    1. Re:FUCK YOU, ASSHOLE by ObviousGuy · · Score: -1, Troll

      Yes! Yes! Fuck you too!

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      I have been pwned because my /. password was too easy to guess.
  16. YOU THINK THAT'S WEIRD, TRY THE JEW WORD "TUCCHUS" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  17. The Truth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
    2 Now the earth was [1] formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.

    3 And God said, "Let there be light," and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light "day," and the darkness he called "night." And there was evening, and there was morning-the first day.
    6 And God said, "Let there be an expanse between the waters to separate water from water." 7 So God made the expanse and separated the water under the expanse from the water above it. And it was so. 8 God called the expanse "sky." And there was evening, and there was morning-the second day.
    9 And God said, "Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear." And it was so. 10 God called the dry ground "land," and the gathered waters he called "seas." And God saw that it was good.
    11 Then God said, "Let the land produce vegetation: seed-bearing plants and trees on the land that bear fruit with seed in it, according to their various kinds." And it was so. 12 The land produced vegetation: plants bearing seed according to their kinds and trees bearing fruit with seed in it according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good. 13 And there was evening, and there was morning-the third day.
    14 And God said, "Let there be lights in the expanse of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark seasons and days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the expanse of the sky to give light on the earth." And it was so. 16 God made two great lights-the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars. 17 God set them in the expanse of the sky to give light on the earth, 18 to govern the day and the night, and to separate light from darkness. And God saw that it was good. 19 And there was evening, and there was morning-the fourth day.
    20 And God said, "Let the water teem with living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the expanse of the sky." 21 So God created the great creatures of the sea and every living and moving thing with which the water teems, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 22 God blessed them and said, "Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the water in the seas, and let the birds increase on the earth." 23 And there was evening, and there was morning-the fifth day.
    24 And God said, "Let the land produce living creatures according to their kinds: livestock, creatures that move along the ground, and wild animals, each according to its kind." And it was so. 25 God made the wild animals according to their kinds, the livestock according to their kinds, and all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good.
    26 Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, [2] and over all the creatures that move along the ground."

    27 So God created man in his own image,
    in the image of God he created him;
    male and female he created them.

    28 God blessed them and said to them, "Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air and over every living creature that moves on the ground."
    29 Then God said, "I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food. 30 And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air and all the creatures that move on the ground-everything that has the breath of life in it-I give every green plant for food." And it was so.
    31 God saw all that he had made, and it was very good. And there was evening, and there was morning-the sixth day

  18. The proper role of men and women in marriage. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    A dictionary entry for the word "husband" reads: "The male head of a household; one who directs the economy of a family." Following the entry is an abbreviation: "obs." It stands for obsolete.

    One wonders just what in that definition has become obsolete. Is it the concept of the male as head of the household? Or is it the idea that the husband directs the economy of the family? It seems that, though the word "husband" is also a verb meaning "to manage prudently," modern sensibilities are uncomfortable with the idea of the husband as the head of the household. Husband has come to mean simply "the male partner in a marriage." The implication is clear: headship is out.

    God's Word has something different to say. Here the husband is called to be neither domineering nor passive. He is by God's design the head of his wife. But the apostle Paul shows us where that headship begins when he writes, "Husbands, love your wives."

    Christ and his bride

    Love can be a challenge to define. In this case, however, Christian husbands have a clear example of what it means to love their wives. "Love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her."

    Jesus gave himself up for his bride, the church. He thought first of her needs, not his own. His first impulse was to serve not himself, but her. To meet the needs of his church he resolutely endured as people ignored, opposed, or abused him. He told his disciples, "Greater love has no one than this, that he lay down his life for his friends" (John 15:13). Then he displayed that no-greater love and laid down his life for his bride.

    A solid marriage--an intimate, enduring relationship characterized by mutual love--only begins to approximate the kind of relationship that exists between Christ and his church. Christ was not drawn to his bride by her loveliness. It was his love that made her lovely and radiant. His love never failed, never drew back. It stopped at nothing, not even the horror of death on a cross.

    A Christian man and his bride

    The world hears "head" as applied to a husband and immediately envisions a tinhorn, domestic tyrant who holds his wife and children in joyless servitude. But that model for headship is not drawn from Christ or his apostles. A Christian husband loves his wife, exercising his headship first by sacrificing himself for her.

    Television's depictions of husbands in recent years have run predominantly to two types: the husband who is crudely self-indulgent and the husband who is passive and inept, nearly unnecessary to the functioning of the family. In other words, the selfish head and the non-head.

    By contrast, a Christian husband is conscious that he has a God-given leadership role to exercise for the temporal and eternal good of his wife and children. This is a high and difficult calling. It requires placing his wife's interests ahead of his own. It may call for him to ignore his fatigue or overcome his native lack of interest. Surely, if it could call for him to lay down his life for his wife, it calls for him to make those lesser sacrifices that are so much a part of daily life in a marriage.

    It is due to Christ's selfless headship that Christian husbands and wives can stand holy and blameless before their Lord. His self-sacrificing love inspires Christian husbands to give themselves for their wives.

  19. ASO, I HAVA INTERCOURSE WITH GAIJINS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  20. haven't 303 days passed? by netsrek · · Score: 1

    I was under the impression the hysteria surrounding the 303 had passed...

    There was a time a decade or so ago when they were one of the few boxes you could get to make those sort of noises with that kind of interface, but surely all the fools and their money have been parted by now?

    I never made acid anyhow... those kinds of squealing synthlines give me the shits.

    --

    i don't read slashdot anymore.
    1. Re:haven't 303 days passed? by natefrogg · · Score: 1

      i hope they do pass soon, they are passing though a few years ago you'd see them for well over $1000.-- u.s. moneys on ebay.... now they are around 500 - 600 i'd like one for the same reason i have an atari 2600 and a roland juno 60....... "squealing synthlines give me the ____"

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  21. Useful? by evilviper · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I can't understand the obsesion with making a gaming machine run Linux/BSD, with or without a network card. Just follow the money trail.

    You may have gotten your DC for $99, without a harddrive, NIC, et al.

    Meanwhile, you can get a 900MHz PC, with 10GB hard drive, NIC, Modem, etc for $300.

    Call me crazy, but I'd stick with the one that I can get replacement parts for.

    I can understand the draw of the i-opener, and the tuxphone, but I don't see any particular draw to the D.C.

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    Slashdot gets worse every day... Pipedot: News for nerds, without the corporate slant
    1. Re:Useful? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      You may have gotten your DC for $99, without a harddrive, NIC, et al.


      Got my DC for $49, and my DC LAN adapter for another $49. DC Keyboard was $14. DC comes bundled with a modem as standard, but there is no home-brew driver for it yet.

      Personally, I just want to program for the DC.

    2. Re:Useful? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      Not because it's useful or convenient, but because it's cool...
      Does anyone know if it's possible to put two of these network adapter on a DC ?
      If I could turn my DC into a firewall, then it would become useful and twice as cool :)

    3. Re:Useful? by analog_line · · Score: 2

      You can get replacement parts for your Dreamcast...the easiest way being, get yourself a spare Dreamcast (they're what, $40?). Also, the most common hardware failure can be fixed with a simple resistor, a soldering iron, and the time needed to take apart and put it back together.

    4. Re:Useful? by lubricated · · Score: 1

      ipaliasing, You can use ipaliasing and make a firewall with only one nic. However it wouldn't be a very secure firewall, but if all you want is NAT it would work fine.

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      It has been statistically shown that helmets increase the risk of head injury.
    5. Re:Useful? by funkmastermike · · Score: 1

      useful? What you want A nice fast computer. Go ahead and do that. You're missing one point with the BBA is that it lets you program the dreamcast without the coder cable which is pretty slow after a while. . 10/100 mbit compared to 56/112kb. And so if you have the DC, the linux distro, and the BBA. Why not mess around for 10 mins on it? Whats the harm? Why do you need "replacement parts"? you gonna run a server on the dc or something?

    6. Re:Useful? by kesuki · · Score: 1

      Apparently you didn't read the article on using a Dreamcast as a network intrusion device. just get physical access to a site you want to hack, and plug the Dreamcast into some power and LAN access and vioal it opens a backdoor the size of texas for you to exploit... and meanwhile that harmless looking dreamcast is sitting innocently in an unobtrusive corner of the building -- noone even noticed it..

    7. Re:Useful? by rodgerd · · Score: 2

      The urge to play. No different to when I picked up an old Mac SE/30 with an Asante card and got Linux running on it. It's fun, for certain values of fun.

      Of course, I've long since thrown out most of the crap old systems I have, since they take up space. Couldn't be arsed in the end. Obviously the people wanting NetBSD on their Dreamcast haven't gotten bored yet.

    8. Re:Useful? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, the DC draws me for many reasons. First, it is the cheapest thing I can get my hands on with a TV-out that I can run a *nix on. This is simply a geek-reason, I can't actually think of any *reason* to run *nix on it. I guess I could use it as an cd-based mp3 player. A VCD player is another idea, but that falls short, as the DC doesn't have the CPU to decode DivX.

      Second, as with all of Sega's consoles, it is a wonderful system with many games that are worth playing. Of course, as with all of Sega's consoles it was a commercial failure, but I can deal with that.

      Third, pirating games is trivial and requires no mod-chip.

      To anyone who wishes to dispute my second point, I simply must point out that the DC has Marvel Vs Capcom II on it, and the DC version of Alpha 3 is head and shoulders over the PSX version.

    9. Re:Useful? by evilviper · · Score: 2

      The DC didn't make that possible, it's just one machine you can use to make it happen.

      For the price of the DC + Broadband adapter, you could have a system just slightly bigger than MIT's matchbox server, with multiple NICs, serial ports, etc.

      Besides, the DC doesn't have any writeable storage, where you could save your traffic. Additionally, you will easilly get spotted if you are sending traffic from the DC over the WAN. With a REAL computer, you could plug in a wireless adapter, and have it broadcast the interesting data at certains times of the day when you'd be there to pick it up.

      That's just a start. There's plenty of clever things to be done with a real computer that a DC can't touch.

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    10. Re:Useful? by The+Finn · · Score: 1

      Where else can one get a cheap a evaluation system for the super hitachi processor? official eval boards aren't cheap.

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    11. Re:Useful? by kesuki · · Score: 2

      True, DreamCast didn't make it possible. As the movie 'hackers' demonstrates the first tool for network intrusion is to get the people inside the building to provide you with everything you need to hack in from the outside. And I realize that the DC has limitations, However, I'd like to point out that software designed to emulate a modem, and send it out over the DC's sound would allow you to hook an eternal radio and use a radio to dialup the Dreamcast. Besides, hacking is at least partially about the coolness factor. How cool is it to be able to say you hacked someone with a dreamcast? Sure, hacking them with a PDA is kinda cool, but doesn't require as much hardcore hacking, like writing a software dialup emulator that is tolerant to possible RF interfearance.
      It takes a lot more ingenuity to get a DreamCast set up as an effective network intrusion device.
      Any script kiddie can drop off a CD-r labled 'hardcore porn' with an autorun to install a pre-configured back orifice while showing a slideshow of usenet porn. Real hacking takes skill and ingenuity.

  22. I know you are going for a laugh but by isolation · · Score: 0

    Off topic I know but for once the OT troll is right.

    If more people read this and understood the way a Christian relationship was supposed to be mabey it would not get such a bad name.

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    1. Re:I know you are going for a laugh but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I know you are going for a laugh but"

      No I wasn't, the roles of men and women in marriage, as designed by God, is one of the most misunderstood parts of Christianity, both inside and outside of the Church.

      All too often the critics of Christianity pull things out of context to make the religion look bad.

      They often say how the Bible says women are to submit to their husbands and the image it brings to us is not accurate to what the Bible tells us.

      This is especially true if one considers the place of women in that part of the world at the time of Christ. Women had no rights at all, none. A man could do whatever he wanted to his wife for the most part. The Bible at the time was one of the most feminists things written. It bestowed rights and importance on women that they could only dream about at that time.

    2. Re:I know you are going for a laugh but by isolation · · Score: 0

      Well I agree with you there but in the future drop the "economy of a family". If you mean the spritual head of the household then you are correct. Monitary leadership does not = spirtual leadership.

      Oh and BTW, DONT POST OF TOPIC STUFF ON SLASHDOT. Save it buddy so you dont give the rest of us Christains that are not AC's a bad name.

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    3. Re:I know you are going for a laugh but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I accepted Jesus as my personal Savior and it is the best decision I ever made. I walk
      with the Lord, and now I have peace and hope. With Jesus, all things are possible.

    4. Re:I know you are going for a laugh but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      With Jesus, all things are possible.

      So if I believe in Jesus, can I fuck him in the ass? Or could Jesus be a pre-op transsexual, in which case I'd have to do the same?

  23. Goat sex, no really! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_545271.html?m enu=news.latestheadlines

    A man has been jailed for six months after a trainload of commuters saw him having sex with a goat.

    Stephen Hall, 23, of Kensington Road, Hull, pleaded guilty to one charge of buggery with an animal after the assault on the female goat in August last year.

    Sentencing HIV-positive Hall, Judge Michael Mettyear, at Hull Crown Court, described the incident as "bizarre and disgusting". Hall had a previous conviction for indecent assault against a six-year-old girl.

    The judge expressed frustration at being unable to order that Hall be banned from working with children in the future, adding: "You have pleaded guilty to buggery with an animal, a goat. It was committed in open air with people about, with people who could see.

    "You were acting in an indecent manner, indeed, there was an seven-year-old boy in a position to see, although he was protected by his grandfather."

    The court was earlier told how Hall had been returning from his sister's home on August 14 when the assault took place at the Argyle Street allotments.

    A seven-year-old boy out walking with his grandfather had witnessed the attack together with a train-load of commuters on board a Hull to Bridlington service that had stopped at nearby signals.

    Hall was seen holding on to a belt that had been put around the nanny goat's neck with one hand, while masturbating with the other. He was then seen with his trousers around his ankles having "penetrative sexual intercourse" with the animal.

    Forensic tests matched semen taken from Hall's clothing to that found at the scene and samples of the goat's hairs were also found in his underwear.

    Reading from the pre-sentence report, Mr Mettyear said Hall had shown evidence of being "preoccupied with sex", having "emotional instability" and problems maintaining relationships. It added that he targets "vulnerable" victims - "a child in the first instance and now an animal".

  24. DON'T MAKE ME COME OVER THERE, SCAT FUCKER!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    1. Re:DON'T MAKE ME COME OVER THERE, SCAT FUCKER!!! by ObviousGuy · · Score: -1, Troll

      You're always welcome here. But your boyfriend ain't. And bring a towel this time, your face isn't as pretty with my shit smeared all over it.

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  25. mabey = maybe by isolation · · Score: 0

    save me from the spelling nazi =P

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  26. how to pre-order? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    How could I preorder a BBA? I cannot read Japanese :)

  27. Did you read today's quote? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    "Is it just me, or does anyone else read `bible humpers' every time someone writes `bible thumpers?' -- Joel M. Snyder, jms@mis.arizona.edu
    1. Re:Did you read today's quote? by isolation · · Score: 0

      I know I do. =)

      I dont agree with the troll posting something off topic and I am not a bible thumper although I am a Christian. It is just funny that his attempt at being stupid doesnt discredit Christain relationships and in this situation what is presented in the bible.

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  28. C'MON EVERYBODY, LET'S DESTROY OBVIOUSGUY'S KARMA! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  29. DC, an ideal solution for the UK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll
    Unlike the USA where even the modest homes can have the latest and greatest CPU power, many in the UK get along on older, simpler computers. It would not be uncommon to go into an office in the UK and find an old Sinclair, Acorn, or Commodore. BASIC on a game console for many in the UK would be considered a pretty hot computer.

    One has to remember that the UK standard of living is lower than that in the United States. The government in the UK is based on a confiscatory tax policy where the government takes almost all your money in taxes, leaving very little disposable income. Everything in the UK is taxed to high heaven. Folks there just can't afford to hop over to the megastore and buy the latest G4 or Athlon based system. For many in the UK, a fast game console with BASIC is as close as they can afford to real computing.

    Old Dreamcasts with BBA would be a good way to help our brothers and sisters in the UK upgrade to the 21st Century. While the DC does not offer that much value for American consumers, a used Dreamcast would be an ideal way to help bridge the UK's "computing gap".

    1. Re:DC, an ideal solution for the UK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      err hello... what planet are you on???

      next you will be saying that we still use horse'n'carts to get around...

    2. Re:DC, an ideal solution for the UK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      haha the stupidity of moderators never ceases to amaze me.

      Guys, when first world contries lament over thier poverty stricken conditions, thats a troll. End of story.

    3. Re:DC, an ideal solution for the UK by Nighttime · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      Why has this been modded up as Interesting? $deity-dammit, my mod points ran out yesterday.

      As a UK citizen, I can say that we do not enjoy a significantly lower standard of living than the US. Nor are we taxed to the hilt. A large percentage of UK homes now own at least one PC system. You'd be hard pushed to find an office in the UK still running on Commodores, Sinclairs or Acorns.

      Parent post is (-1, Troll)

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    4. Re:DC, an ideal solution for the UK by wackybrit · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      Nor are we taxed to the hilt.

      Are you on drugs!? Do you not realize that most of the 75p per litre of petrol (US$4.00+ for a gallon of gas) we have to pay in the UK is tax?

      Not only that, but you end up paying tax ON the sales tax (VAT)!

      Worse, you already paid 25%+ of your income out in income taxes and national insurance to be able to buy the gas on which you're getting taxed TWICE again!

      Not taxed to the hilt? You must be having a laugh.

    5. Re:DC, an ideal solution for the UK by perlyking · · Score: 3, Funny

      Perhaps it would have been prudent to say "we arent taxed that much more". I believe we are actually better off than other European countries though a comparison would depend on wages as well.

      The company producing this has missed out on one thing, they should secretly make these and sell them at inflated prices on eBay!

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    6. Re:DC, an ideal solution for the UK by perlyking · · Score: 1

      Oooh moderators on crack. Talking about the company producing and selling them on ebay is offtopic.

      Heh.
      Not that I care my karma is "Totally Excellent" :-0

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    7. Re:DC, an ideal solution for the UK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      are you nuts? London is a fricking Pig pit. It's nasty, dirty, and the people there are horribly rude. Try riding on the subway ther ewithout getting ran over by people.

      Your vast wasteland of flats is identical to our Projects. uninspired, everything on top of another, and falling apart. Next we have the tiny-ass homes that 90% of the population live in, if you want to live in a real home you have to either move to the country or live in ireland.

      Oh yeah, you guys live just like me.. I live in a modest house here in the states... 1094 Square feet not including my basement(Which is finished and another 580)... it's considered a wealthy mans' home by your standards.. Plus I own 2 cars. so Yes, I DO live a better life than you.... I live a mugh HIGHER standard than you.

      I've been theere, I spent a month in your lovely City called London and looked at the cesspool of a river you call the Thames. and driven on your madman designed roads and roundabouts. I've been in the homes of 7 people who make as much as I or better...

      I live better, ALL americans live better... It's time you guys blew up half of your buildings and build something modern.

    8. Re:DC, an ideal solution for the UK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "The company producing this has missed out on one thing, they should secretly make these and sell them at inflated prices on eBay!"
      How do you know they haven't been doing this for a while already and now thought they'd get even more publicity and try sell them legitimately :)
      But yeah, my broadband adaptor has suddenly become worth a lot less although I'd never sell it anyhow. I've always got my lan adaptor to keep it company also... on top of this since the main reason BBAs are still wanted is for development, there are a few home-made expansion port adaptors for the dreamcast in the works... and 'simple' to build ones at that.
      CyRUS64

      Boob! Dreamcast Research / Development
      http://www.boob.co.uk

    9. Re:DC, an ideal solution for the UK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1000 sq ft? What is that, a studio apartment with a yard? Geez, I didn't know there were any houses that small left over here. All the new ones are at least 4000 sq ft.

    10. Re:DC, an ideal solution for the UK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      Sure, but we pay less for many things, in particular for medical coverage - we pay less "social secutity" contributions and that covers heathcare too. Just one example of many.

      I'm well aware of the differences, having lived in both countries - my SO is American.

    11. Re:DC, an ideal solution for the UK by packeteer · · Score: 1

      lol this is exactly what it used to mean to post while "trolling for suckers" wow this is good stuff and to think that it was modded up... i dont think i have to point out that its blatently wrong but what does need to be pointed out is that it was modded up... obviously the author didn't ACTUALLY believe what he posted so this is just a great example of trolling at its best (which is still pretty damn lame... after it IS a troll)...

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  30. hey tom by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    tom if you're out there, you acted like a real wanker during your last year at university

  31. QUESTION: ARE YOU A HOMO??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    1. Re:QUESTION: ARE YOU A HOMO??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes. But I'm not a pedophile, so put your 12-year-old boys back in their cages.

  32. For the love of God by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...post a link to goatse instead. I hate Bible Thumping trolls.

  33. Where did this guy disappear, anyway? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    31 God saw all that he had made, and it was very good. And there was evening, and there was morning-the sixth day

    Why do people keep dragging up this ancient shit? Sure, it was a cool project, but hardly newsworthy anymore. How about reviewing some of the more recent stuff from this guy?

    1. Re:Where did this guy disappear, anyway? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, there are rumors that he will release an apocalypse soon.

    2. Re:Where did this guy disappear, anyway? by NoMoreNicksLeft · · Score: 2

      Vaporware. Pure Vaporware.

    3. Re:Where did this guy disappear, anyway? by ImaLamer · · Score: 2

      Fucking troll, they already made them once!

      Get to know those terms you use so easily.

  34. *wink* by ObviousGuy · · Score: 0, Troll

    You're so sexy when you're like that.

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  35. How many pre-orders needed for more Dreamcasts? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Just out of interest, how many pre-orders would be needed to get another production run of Dreamcasts made?

    Maybe I am being over optimistic, but who would have said that Blender would be open-sourced a couple of years ago?

    1. Re:How many pre-orders needed for more Dreamcasts? by jack+torrence · · Score: 1

      I don't know how many more are needed, but I think that those persons who are considering buying an Xbox under the misguided idea that doing so hurts M$ should buy a DC instead. IMHO the move by M$ to enter the game console market had more to do with Sega's decision to pull the plug on the DC than anything else. Therefore, if DC ever started up again it would continue to be more than just a thorn in the side to bgates. I will never forgive M$ for that decision, so the more ironic thing to ever have (and the scariest nightmare for M$ is a visit by an OLD GHOST that was thought to have been exorcised a long time ago). That would be :-)

  36. Grandma Pearl, and lessons learned by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    My grandmother, Anna Pearl (Fine) Hartman, born August 26th, 1882, in Davilla, Texas, was not special except in the ways all grandmothers are special. No, she did not own a Dreamcast, and would not have wanted to. Friends and family called her Annie. Her children called her Mama and so did I.

    Mama was sweet, gentle, smelled alternately of home-made light bread and/or Mentholatum which she applied regularly to herself and me for a variety of reasons --anything short of brain surgery.

    She taught me to fish, dig for and thread a worm on a hook, catch a grasshopper for bait in a pinch, and how to throw the line from a cane pole. She could kill a water moccasin with a fence post and did on more than one occasion. Other creatures threatening harm also got the fence post. She gave added dimension to the term, fencing,

    She was a devoted Fundamental Baptist who practiced foot washing; whose favorite hymn was "Farther along we'll know all about it; farther along we'll understand why." She had her own version of scripture inspite of the fact that she rested secure in the inviolable, unchangeable Word -- 'It says what it says, but this is what it means. "

    She could comfort my perpetual skinned knees and stumped toes using some kind of ointment and a torn sheet bandage split in two on one end and tied about the wound.

    Mama was endearing and beloved and, as it dawned on me later in life, an enigma. Hearing about her as a friend, sister and mother acquainted me with someone else, somebody I didn't know. Now that I am a grandmother, I've discovered what Mama may have sensed or known. Grandmothers can reinvent themselves in behalf of both themselves and grandchildren, becoming suitable to time and place.

    1. Re:Grandma Pearl, and lessons learned by user+no.+590291 · · Score: 0

      Cut that out. I read through this whole thing looking for the part where she fucked you.

  37. In a word - convenience by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For applications which don't require a lot of processing power, the convenience of having an integrated machine that runs Linux is very useful.

  38. HOMO AND F�CES ENTHUSIAST, OBVIOUSGUY, HITS ON ME by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
  39. How Much? by edward.virtually@pob · · Score: 1

    Maybe I missed it in the translation, but I did not notice any mention of price. How much do they want for each adapter? Do they want payment in advance? Etc.

    1. Re:How Much? by echucker · · Score: 2

      I'd bet it'd be safe to say it'd be more than the NIC that's already in your PC right now. It seems that, as a rule, retro projects like this cost more than current technology with worse performance.

    2. Re:How Much? by bonzoesc · · Score: 2

      In other words, it's going to be more than $5, right?

    3. Re:How Much? by rmcmahon · · Score: 1

      Much. As noted in a post further down a thread, you can only order the adapters if you have a Japanese address; but if that's not a problem...

      "However, utilization commodity price, consumer tax, total of the postage limits under 30 ten thousand Yen. The upper limit of the utilization amount of the minority makes 5 ten thousand Yen or less 1 time concerning order."

      I think this means that in other words, CSI hasn't decided yet, but they're thinking somewhere between ¥30000 (about US$250) and ¥50000 (about US$415) after taxes... I think. It seems like a pretty wide range.

  40. Windows XP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    ...just gave me the greatest orgasm of my life.

  41. Re:HOMO AND F�CES ENTHUSIAST, OBVIOUSGUY, HITS ON by ObviousGuy · · Score: 1

    Nice phrasing. Would have had a nice double entendre had you said I was coming onto you.

    *squirt squirt*

    Drink it down, lovely.

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  42. Am I the only one by xercist · · Score: 4, Informative

    who is subtly annoyed when they arbitrarily rename things to make them sound less complex to idiot^Waverage users?

    For example, what they sell here is a "Network Adaptor", or "Ethernet Controller" or perhaps a "NIC" - all terms everyone has accepted and uses to describe the adaptor that allows a machine to connect to an ethernet network. But let's just make up a new name, and call it a "broadband adaptor", because most people will then asociate it with their (cable|dsl) connections, even though the item in question has absolutely nothing to do with broadband. It is, in fact, the exact opposite - baseband.

    I know, I know, I'm making a big deal over a small thing, but I just had to get it out, and I feel better now that I have. If you agree, modding me up and you'll feel better too. If you disagree, modding me up will show how you can see both sides of the issue :)

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    1. Re:Am I the only one by autechre · · Score: 3, Interesting


      Probably because the manufacturer is a business and likes to sell things. As you pointed out, most of their target audience (home gamers) will better be able to identify the function of an item called "Broadband Adaptor" than one called "NIC". Sorry if they don't feel that people should learn basic networking terms before giving them money :)

      Remember, this wasn't named for the benefit of a bunch of geeks wanting to run Linux on the Dreamcast, it was named when the Dreamcast was still an unabandoned (by the manufacturer) gaming platform. In fact, my brother and myselves (who'll get _that_ reference?) would use this adaptor to play PSO (hopefully, this is still possible with the Dreamcast).

      (IIRC, DSL/Cable is actually narrowband or wideband according to the Bell Atlantic services chart, which I think is what you're referencing).

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    2. Re:Am I the only one by jasonditz · · Score: 1

      Besides which, the only applications which officially support it use it only as a broadband adapter.

      Its meant to let people go on the internet faster (in the one or two games that actually support it), its not meant to let you use that NetBSD CD you burned to mount an NFS on your main and hack around in a bash shell. Sure, you can use it for that, but most people aren't.

    3. Re:Am I the only one by Stalin · · Score: 0

      well there are actually two versions of the same device for the dreamcast. one is called a "network adapter" and it will only work the browser that it originally came with and homebrew software. the other is called the "broadband adapter" (see other replies for arguments as to why it is called this). this one will work with games that are supposed to be "bba compatible".

    4. Re:Am I the only one by toast0 · · Score: 2

      i believe the network adapter only does 10baseT, and that the broadband adapter does 10/100

  43. Details? by Megane · · Score: 3, Interesting

    How do we make the reservations? How much do we have to pay? What about international orders?

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  44. BBA Prices by Zapper · · Score: 0

    Given the prices of these things I'm suprised that someone hasn't hacked up a substitute.
    Of course I have no idea how difficult this is, but people have gone to extemes on this sort of thing before.

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    1. Re:BBA Prices by jasonditz · · Score: 1
      I've seen a few cobbled together Dreamcast mods that add an ISA slot so you can stick an Ethernet card in it. Never had time to try and make one myself, but this has me inspired.

      http://boob.co.uk/cgi-bin/ikonboard3/ikonboard.cgi ?s=3d63e4641726ffff;act=ST;f=1;t=1011

      And here I was about to wipe the SH4/ARM cross compiler off my BSD box.

  45. Order form. by 13Echo · · Score: 2

    The web translation services aren't being too effective. Has anyone found the order form, so that we may pre-order these things? I'm not having any luck, and I really want two of these things.

    1. Re:Order form. by VargrX · · Score: 3, Informative
      has anyone found the order form, so that we may pre-order these things?

      never could read japanese, but here's the link to the pre-order page.

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    2. Re:Order form. by 13Echo · · Score: 2

      That is what I figured. I saw it earlier. But I am not having any luck with the translation services.

    3. Re:Order form. by ChronosX · · Score: 1

      Two years of college level Japanese aren't quite enough to make sense of the legalese that goes, but it appears this offer is only good for residents of Japan. It says something along the lines of "We are unable to respond to overseas inquiries."

      Can anyone verify this?

    4. Re:Order form. by 13Echo · · Score: 2

      I've sent them a polite email to the company about the possibility of an English order form. I am having trouble getting this one to work. Regardless, import companies will jump all over this one. I have no doubts that we will see plenty of these things again. :)

    5. Re:Order form. by teslatug · · Score: 1

      I've already pre-ordered ???? units

    6. Re:Order form. by Orion_ · · Score: 1

      My Japanese isn't that great, but it would seem that the order form they link to doesn't actually have the BBA on it (when I checked, anyway).

      The order form I found is here

      It has a couple of routers, a Dreamcast karaoke box, and a couple of wireless networking products, but no BBA.

      I couldn't find anything that had a price, either.

    7. Re:Order form. by SkewlD00d · · Score: 2

      That's the *order* page, I think. They are just "thinking" about taking pre-orders. Geez, why can't they just translate it to frickin' english.

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  46. Quick translation by BJH · · Score: 4, Informative

    OK, here's a quick translation of the page:

    ====
    Thank you for visiting our site.
    As has been reported earlier the Broadband Adapter (BBA) is no longer being manufactured, with the remaining stock sold out in July and August. However, we have received many requests for manufacturing to be restarted.
    As a result, we have decided to accept "countdown" preordering in order to do a new manufacturing run, with the run to be produced only if reservations reach 1000 by the cutoff date.
    Please follow the instructions below to preorder an adapter.
    In the event that manufacture does go ahead, it will take approximately four months from that point in time until we can deliver the adapter to you. Please take this into account when ordering.

    Start of preorder acceptance: 2002/8/26 (Mon) 13:00-
    Cutoff date: 2002/9/9 (Mon) 13:00
    Number of BBAs to be produced: 1000
    Delivery date (planned): A notice will be placed on this site as it is finalized around the end of December 2002.
    ====

    In other words, you won't be able to put your preorder in until after 1pm Monday (Japan Standard Time).

    1. Re:Quick translation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Anything on price?

    2. Re:Quick translation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why on Earth is this modded "funny"?

    3. Re:Quick translation by BJH · · Score: 1

      Nope. Just what's written above, no more, no less. Wait till Monday is my advice.

    4. Re:Quick translation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hmmm. why did this get a "Funny" rating?? Shouldn't it be "informative"???

      Oh well

    5. Re:Quick translation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's because moderation on this site is

      *full* *of* *shit*

      Pro-MS comments seldom get modded up, factually incorrect comments don't get modded down, sometimes rocketing right up to 5, Informative, and incredibly insightful comments are often marked as trolls (obviously, we all know there are plenty of trolls, but when you have a go at browsing at -1, you'll be surprised as all hell at the gems you can find.

  47. Can only order in Japan? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    After running the preorder page through the fish, this part came up:

    This corporation sells the general customer as the object. In addition, as for the commodity it is for the Japanese country limiting to only sale. Because it is unable to correspond to the order from the foreign country and the inquiry, acknowledgement you ask. Separate consumer tax is necessary in the price which is stated.

    E-mail: Dreamcast@csi.co.jp

    I wish they would open this up to at elast the US. I know id want to order 1 or 2 of the BBA's if they were like $50 or so, and not the $150 everybody wants on EBAY.

    1. Re:Can only order in Japan? by GutBomb · · Score: 2

      i imagine the price is going to go down a bit on ebay if these things actually get produced

  48. More Info by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    After going through the site I found the preorder it says that the BBAs will only be shipped inside of Japan and will cost about 5000 Yen. If these aren't a problem for you, preorder requests should be sent to: dreamcast@csi.co.jp

  49. Availability of the BBA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As far as I know, Lik-Sang only ran out of these things recently. The actual product link is here. Perhaps this is where you can pre-order these new ones? Also it should be noted that not all American DC games are compatible with the Japanese BBA (most notably PSO).
    I remember discovering that I had gotten the money to order one from Sega.com a week after they'd stopped production. Blargh.
    -- Yukanojo (who keeps forgetting his password)

  50. It's a production run on the BBA for the DC... by Zer0Her0 · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Not a new production run on the DC please at least read the post before posting bleh

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    1. Re:It's a production run on the BBA for the DC... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      maybe you should read the post he was replying to you stupid fucking wanker. go suck a cock before you reprimand others.

    2. Re:It's a production run on the BBA for the DC... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Um, the poster never said that this was for DC. He said that he wondered HOW MANY orders would be needed for another production run on the DC itself. As in he knows about the BBA, and now he wants to know could the same situation happen w/ the DC. I don't think you actually had a problem with reading the article (as you suggested to the poster), but you certainly need to work on your comprehension.

  51. hmmm by LighthouseJ · · Score: -1

    I wonder what the people that bought the BBA off eBay for $130 and thought they got a deal. The open their web browser, tune it to slashdot.org and read this. I think resounding explicatives would be heard two towns over.

  52. More DC hacks / A DC business opportunity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have to wonder what will be coming out of the community for DC say... 6 mo. after these are sold. I'd be so pleased to see more hacker attention on the DC.

    Howzabout a company that will mail order you any DC game? With a DC-proprietary writer you wouldn't even have to maintain any stock! Mail order any DC game $15 - I'd buy that. The DCDisk writers have to be valued at slightly more than scrap metal by this point, and maybe you could get the rights to write the games on demand for a % from Sega...

    1. Re:More DC hacks / A DC business opportunity by CableModemSniper · · Score: 1

      Um but what about the actual developers of the games? I don't think they'd be too keen on you copying their games, selling them, giving a cut to Sega and leaving them in the lurch.

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      Why not fork?
  53. EXCELLENT, also FUuuckckkKK by Juln · · Score: 1

    Too late for my Phantasy Star Online binge...
    I had to get a *%*^$*& dialup account PLUS Hunter License to play for 3 months last winter.
    I think we're still getting a BBA, though! We wondered why a thrid party or (this is the orginial manufacturer?) didn't make some more BBAs, they were going for $150 on Lik Sang, so clearly the dmand has been there. I wonder if the demand is still there, its almost too late for me. COME ON GAMECUBE PSO!!! I hope theres no broadband lack for the gamecube: nintendo, please don't suck.

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    Juln
  54. Timely Story by Jouster · · Score: 1

    I ran a webstats engine on my 14 million hits over the past four months, and noticed 23 Dreamcast hits. I figured someone had fudged their Mozilla's OS string.

    Cool.

    Jouster

  55. screwing == making better games? by peter_gzowski · · Score: 2

    I don't know about the relative graphics handling capabilities or programming ease (the latter I've heard has been getting better for PS2), but I do see the end result:

    My PS2 has better games, plays DVDs, and has the best damn controller design in the history of gaming.

    I know the Dreamcast is a whole lot cheaper, and hackable, and if I want to learn some embedded linux stuff, I'll go pick one up sometime. This is good news for linux on console enthusiasts, and maybe the diehard PSO players still left, but I'm more excited about the broadband adaptor for PS2 that's coming out soon, and seeing what impact it has on console gaming, and the linux for PS2 initiatives.

    I'm not saying the Dreamcast didn't have great games. Sega has brilliant games, and I'm thankful that they're now developing games for PS2. But you can't deny that there are fantastic games on PS2 that outclass any other console's efforts. Also, last time I checked, there wasn't anybody developing new games for Dreamcast that would exploit this new hardware.

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    "Now gluttony and exploitation serves eight!" - TV's Frank
    1. Re:screwing == making better games? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, yes, I can.

      I have all of the systems, and of the 30 to 40 PS2 games I've purchased, I've GIVEN AWAY nearly all of them, and have kepted only FOUR.

      FOUR!

      Four games in all the PURE SHIT that I've purchased have been good enough to keep.

      Okay, so that's the same number of good games I have for each of the other systems, but there's a huge Shit-To-Quality ratio here that really bugs me.

      And besides --

      MARIO SUNSHINE COMES OUT MONDAY! WOOHOO!

    2. Re:screwing == making better games? by peter_gzowski · · Score: 2

      Kept only 10% of games you purchased? Sounds like you need to start reading some magazine reviews, dude, or find a rental store.

      There is a high crap-to-quality ratio, but I think this is going to happen on any dominant console. Nintendo used to be the king of crap (I don't know the state of affairs now, I don't know anyone with a Gamecube).

      For those of us who don't have the ~$850 (US) to buy the 4 consoles, we have to roll the dice on which console will dominate.

      Dominant console => more games developed & more high profile developers making exclusive-console games.
      More games developed => better chance of more good games (in spite of poorer crap-to-quality ratio).

      For curiosity, what are the 4 games you kept? I only own three games (MGS2, THPS3, and GT3), but I can think of a couple more I'd like to own (GTA3, FFX).

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      "Now gluttony and exploitation serves eight!" - TV's Frank
    3. Re:screwing == making better games? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "and has the best damn controller design in the history of gaming."

      you must have small hands..... and funky thumbs

  56. dude, hunter's license was only $10.22/3 months by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The hunter's license won't break your bank. The BBA is only a convenience if you're behind a nat router. Setting up PPP server for the DC is not hard, but you'll have to build the line simulator ($4 in parts from Fry's) if you don't have the 670-14140A model of the modem.

  57. Homebrew by The+Pi-Guy · · Score: 5, Informative
    1. Re:Homebrew by frohike · · Score: 1

      Slightly incorrect link there (it's my site :)

      gamedev.allusion.net

      and here's another for you:
      cagames.com

      Honestly I can't see why people on here keep harping on and on about Linux and NetBSD on the Dreamcast, when its main use these days is for development console homebrew games. :) Of course Linux for DC is also getting some nice support that will enable this as well, but it's a bit behind the other stuff that's out.

  58. Try Here by RupertJ · · Score: 1

    There is an export company in Hong Kong that used to sell these BBA's. You can find them at Lik Sang

    1. Re:Try Here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or Here, if you don't feel like giving RupertJ a commission on everything you buy there.

  59. then again by nizcolas · · Score: 1

    if you only want to use the BBA to play games, you should be able to figure out a way to make the DC dial into the computer, and then use the computers (broadband/LAN) access to play the games online. It won't be 'broadband' speeds but in reality DC games are optimized for 56k. I've played several DC games online and have never experienced any lag. I was also connecting over a 26.4 baud rate ;)

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  60. Dreamcast dialing into a computer by elite+lamer · · Score: 0

    It's already been done. You can share your PC's dial-up OR broadband connection with your Dreamcast. For Windows 2000 For other Windows OS's Knock yourself out.

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    Oops!
  61. And now, the $100 question... by Shimatta1 · · Score: 1

    ...how does one go about pre-ordering a couple of these puppies? This is the only thing I've been wanting to get for my Dreamcast before turning it into a Linux box, but I dislike using auctions to obtain things.

    Does anyone with a better grasp of Japanese see on the site how to get such a pre-order to the company?

    Shimatta
    So much to do, so little motivation.

  62. man i'm glad i had pre-ordered mine from sega ages by kennedy · · Score: 1

    BWAHAHHA! my BBA owns. only issue is PSO didn't work with it (yeah there was a hack to use a japanese copy of the game, but fuck that!). q3a was uber easy though. everyone else had lame ass modems, so fragging them was childs play.

    ph33r.

  63. Linux on Dreamcast by 00_NOP · · Score: 2

    This project is here. I would really encourage any would be or newbie Linux kernel hacker to join the effort because:

    There are good people here but none of them are Linus or Alan Cox, so no fear factor.

    We don't need wizards (though they are welcome!), We just need competent people, as there are still a lot of basic device drivers to be written.

    To keep this OT I'd add that without a BBA it's a PITA sometimes - but you can use the much cheaper coders' cable to connect your DC to a PC and download kernels etc.

  64. Broadband, baseband, grunge band by fm6 · · Score: 2

    Yeah, the mutation of Broadband from "using a broad frequency band" to "supplies a lot of bandwidth" is irritating. But face it, words change. Especially when they express technical distinctions most people don't know or care about.

  65. NCSX is taking preorders at $49 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    http://www.ncsx.org/2002/ncs082602/ncs0826m.htm

  66. You can preorder from NCSX! by orbital3 · · Score: 2

    I know that pretty much noone is going to see this now, but for those who are still reading this, you can preorder your DC BBA through NCSX, a reputable import gaming retailer, for only $49, less than the original BBA cost from Sega. No, I don't work for them, but it's a great way for us who can't read Japanese to get in on this deal. I just hope it hits 1000 orders...

  67. middleman? by ronaldcromwell · · Score: 1

    anyone know a reliable japanese middleman? :>