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De Niro Seeks Science-Oriented Film Scripts

farrellj writes "According to this CBC story it seems that De Niro is looking for the next 'A Beautiful Mind, Memento or Good Will Hunting.' The script must have a scientist, mathematician or engineer as the lead charactor...And a finished script with synopsis and writer's resume must be in by Nov. 1. Submission info in the CBC story above. Now, who is writing the 'Cowboy Neal saves the world' script? "

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  1. CmdrTaco's Beautiful Mind Hunting by cp4 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I can just see it, DeNiro sitting in some basement in Michigan or wherever and writing some illegible code for an hour and a half...

    The romance is there with the infamous Valentine's Day Proposal.

    Hemos is the "good buddy"...

    This is gold.

    1. Re:CmdrTaco's Beautiful Mind Hunting by sielwolf · · Score: 2

      Hemos is the "good buddy"...

      Yeah but we gotta spice it up! We need to get that hip urban demographic. How 'bout Method Man? Or what about Jackie Chan?

      Maybe Hemos could be some sort of secret agent... Actually, let's drop this entire CmdrTaco idea and go with this Hemos Asian Action hero angle. Somebody get me a line to Hong Kong!

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    2. Re:CmdrTaco's Beautiful Mind Hunting by _ph1ux_ · · Score: 2

      no no no.

      we would need Wil Wheaton so adequately represent Slashdot!!

    3. Re:CmdrTaco's Beautiful Mind Hunting by Jonny+Ringo · · Score: 2

      I always thought that they would sell more tickets if they called it "A Beautiful Brain".
      But then all of you would say that's a horrible name, and I would counter "that's why I'm not working in Holywood".

  2. Memento? Explain this one. by Skyshadow · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In what way was Memento a science-oriented film? How does it fit in with Good Will Hunting or A Beautiful Mind (which was good mostly due to Jennifer Connley -- how did she stay so damn good looking?).

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    1. Re:Memento? Explain this one. by msaavedra · · Score: 2, Informative
      I'll give you the same advice I'd give Robert DeNiro: Read any book by Oliver Sacks. He's a highly regarded neurologist who has been writing about various brain diseases and injuries for decades. The movie "Awakenings" (Robin Williams) was based on some work he did with his patients
      And Robert De Niro would probably tell that he knows who Oliver Sacks is, and that he actually played the main character in Awakenings
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  3. Oh God by Snaller · · Score: 2

    Enough with the Cowboy Neal stuff already!

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    1. Re:Oh God by Snaller · · Score: 2

      > Don't use Style Sheets - it makes web pages unreadable.

      >Um, what? CSS is designed to make pages MORE readable and save bandwidth.

      That may have been their wet dream, but that is not how it works on the net today for the wast majority of people. (Don't know about the bandwidth, thats probably true)

      > And when you are familiar with them, you'll
      >find that CSS is much nicer to use than the old
      > tags and other such nonsense

      I'm sure they are wonderful to who ever hacks the pages, but they suck big time for people who use Internet Explorer (I don't know about Netscape, Opera or what ever it is the that the tiny minority of people who do not use MSIE use) :

      Using style sheets gets us back to the bad old days where people tried to design WYSIWYG web pages. Using stylesheets people specific font sizes, specific spacings etc. I don't know what the people designing webpages are thinking, but apparently they believe that all their viewers have 20/20 vision and use the same screen resolution as they do. I don't have 20/20, and too damn many webpages using stylesheets also use too damn small letters, making the page UNREADABLE, or harder to read. MSIE has a font setting, and you can change font size, small, large - very nice... except this only works for s and not for text using style sheets, since the by using style sheets one specifically specify a specify font size (or 99% of web people do).
      But then MSIE has an option to "disable stylesheets", this works for font sizes... but not for not for line spacing... which means that even though one can now make the fonts larger, they all stack on top of each other and become unreadable... (this behavior has been consistent through many major versions of MSIE, so its probably by design)

      So from where I sit: Don't use the damn things on webpages, they make them unreadable!

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    2. Re:Oh God by Jonny+290 · · Score: 2

      Using stylesheets people specific font sizes, specific spacings etc.

      If you're a bad coder (mark-upper?). If you do px specifications, yes, you're making a mistake. If you're using medium, x-large, xx-small, etc. then compliant browsers will scale everything up and down properly.

      except this only works for s and not for text using style sheets, since the by using style sheets one specifically specify a specify font size (or 99% of web people do).


      So, they're bad authors. Don't blame the technology.

      So from where I sit: Don't use the damn things on webpages, they make them unreadable!

      Blaming the technology for the content author's faults is like telling every audio producer out there that reverb sucks and makes music unlistenable, just because a few people out there overuse it and/or use it incorrectly.

      One of the dimmer sigs that I've seen on Slashdot, to be sure.

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    3. Re:Oh God by Snaller · · Score: 2
      >>Using stylesheets people specific font sizes, >>specific spacings etc.

      >If you're a bad coder (mark-upper?). If you do
      >px specifications, yes, you're making a mistake.
      >If you're using medium, x-large, xx-small, etc.
      >then compliant browsers will scale everything up
      >and down properly.

      Since nobody does that, how would I know. (And given your tone, I'm not prepare to just take your word for it)

      >>except this only works for the font tag and not
      >>for text using style sheets, since the by using
      >>style sheets one specifically specify a specify
      >>font size (or 99% of web people do).

      >So, they're bad authors.

      Oh yeah, while http://www.wilwheaton.net/ might be excused what's the excuse of http://cnn.com ? To single out two of many (forgive me for not compiling a list for someone who obviously doesn't give a damn)

      > Don't blame the technology.

      While its certainly right the people who design web pages SHOULD know better.. they don't - I used to own an Amiga and it was a loosing battle on the net, because 99% of all webdesigners didn't know shit about standards and didn't care - and the PC browsers didn't enforce it. So we were stuck with COMPLIANT browsers who broke left right and center, simply because people don't know how to make pages and don't really care. Precisely because of this I blame the technology - they should damn well have known that 90% of the people using it would get it wrong. They should not have included it in the standard from the beginning.

      >>So from where I sit: Don't use the damn things on webpages, they make them
      >>unreadable!

      >Blaming the technology for the content author's faults is like telling every audio
      >producer out there that reverb sucks and makes music unlistenable, just because a
      >few people out there overuse it and/or use it incorrectly.

      There are two things to this. First your analogy is complete nonsense, and the "a few people" points to why, you are totally oblivious to the fact its lots of sites who do this, not a few. Perhaps you are one of those Jakob Nielsen talks about when he wonders why webpages are getting harder to read: "Most web designers are young, and so have perfect vision. Tiny text doesn't bother them as much as it bothers people on the other side of 40. Designers also tend to own expensive, high-quality monitors that are easier on the eyes. " - He is so polite - I call them arrogant self-centred assholes who don't give a damn about other people.

      When you switch OFF stylesheets most sites have the same font size, if you switch them ON, the damn font sizes go up and down from site site, even if you can adjust them manually, but then you HAVE to adjust them manually from site to site, from Slashdot to Bluesnews, to Jakob Nielsen .. no wait, web guru and usability
      designer Jakob Nielsen, called "the guru of Web page usability" (by The New York Times) , (read the Slashdot interview here: )

      He will tell you that, this is:

      "Another example of harmful Web technology comes with the increasing use of style sheets, which let web designers specify the exact size of text down to the pixel. Unfortunately, many designers are using this ability, leading to reduced readability of an increasing number of websites. "


      >One of the dimmer sigs that I've seen on Slashdot, to be sure.

      While you overlook the fact that sig length is very limited on Slashdot, the main problem is that you ARE one of the self-centered assholes who don't give a damn about others and their problems.
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  4. Holy slow newsday batman! by Codex+The+Sloth · · Score: 4, Funny

    If this is what is on the frontpage today, I'd hate to see what got rejected.

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    1. Re:Holy slow newsday batman! by jonr · · Score: 2

      How about article about 800Mhz iPaq? Or article of how some people are mixing quake with realaity. (Fake monsters, real buildings, running outdoors). Just to name a few.

    2. Re:Holy slow newsday batman! by aardvarkjoe · · Score: 2
      Well, in defense of the editors, I'm almost positive that I remember a story about the latter a few months ago.


      (Of course, given that, maybe we should be even more surprised that it wasn't posted.)

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    3. Re:Holy slow newsday batman! by Skyshadow · · Score: 3, Funny
      Or article of how some people are mixing quake with realaity. (Fake monsters, real buildings, running outdoors).

      Whoa whoa, slow down there, professor.

      You're saying that people who play Quake both run and go outdoors, let alone combine the two? Dear God, if that's not front-page news, I don't know what is.

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    4. Re:Holy slow newsday batman! by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      How about what didn't make it to the front page: Robot To Explore Mysterious Pyramid Passage.

      They should turn in their geek license for relegating that story off the front page.

      Note that there is live TV coverage of the exploration! (Monday/Fox/8pm)

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    5. Re:Holy slow newsday batman! by deputydink · · Score: 2, Funny
      In other breaking canadian news:

      Radio station pulls Celine spoof

      Halifax gets unique new theatre

      Barenaked Ladies endorse NDP hopeful

      De Niro calls for science scripts

      Warren Zevon has inoperable cancer God bless Canada and may you never live in interesting times.

    6. Re:Holy slow newsday batman! by selectspec · · Score: 2

      My article on how a Spanish Porn company is trying to buy Napster from the WSJ (need subscription) was rejected.

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    7. Re:Holy slow newsday batman! by nEoN+nOoDlE · · Score: 2

      at least my link to goatse.cx got rejected...

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    8. Re:Holy slow newsday batman! by geoswan · · Score: 2
      I'd hate to see what got rejected.

      Well spacedaily had an article about another theory about the Tunguska explosion . It presented some interesting evidence that the explosion was due to a massive release of an enormous high pressure reservoit of natural gas.

      In my opinion it really deserved to make it to the front page. Tunguska was important. This summer's slashdot had dozens of articles about asteroids that might crash into the Earth. I am sure the theory that the Tunguska explosion was the result of an asteroid impact coloured every one of those discussions.

      Yeah, I submitted this story, and it was rejected.

  5. How about Jason in Outer... by Frank+of+Earth · · Score: 3, Funny

    ... Damn!, I'm always late with my great ideas.

  6. De Niro already made this "scientific opus"... by Komrade+S. · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...and it is known only as "Rocky and Bullwinkle". God bless Piper Perabo.

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  7. This sounds like a bad idea... by Chagatai · · Score: 5, Funny
    I mean, De Niro as a mathematician? It could take the title of "Analyze This" to a whole new level. But, I suppose if he was in the next Good Will Hunting, he could take Robin Williams' place. That way, instead of just pinning Matt Damon to the wall after talking ill about his dead wife, he'd go all mafioso and have Vinni bust some kneecaps. "That cool with you, chief?"

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    1. Re:This sounds like a bad idea... by Skyshadow · · Score: 4, Funny
      Note that DeNiro's not necessarily planning to act in the movie. He's looking for a script for his film company to produce.

      Personally, I think having a modern-day crime drama about a guy brought in to set up secure computing for the mob might be a winner. Think a mix of DeNiro's gambling specialist character from Casino and Ben Kingsley's character in Sneakers.

      "The world isn't run by weapons anymore, or energy, or money. It's run by little ones and zeroes, little bits of data. It's all just electrons." Then Joe Peschi would be beaten severely and buried alive. All movies, even light-hearted comic romances, should have Joe Peschi beaten severely and buried alive.

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  8. The Brilliant Amnesiac by cibrPLUR · · Score: 4, Funny

    De Niro is looking for the next 'A Beautiful Mind, Memento or Good Will Hunting.' The script must have a scientist, mathematician or engineer as the lead charactor.

    I never knew that Leonard was a scientist, mathematician or engineer.

    Maybe he just forgot.

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    1. Re:The Brilliant Amnesiac by Jonny+Ringo · · Score: 2

      Neither did he, but he was.

  9. De Niro: Blinded with Science by tenzig_112 · · Score: 2

    Dr. Nuelhammer is ready for his closeup.

  10. the plot thinkens by deft · · Score: 5, Funny

    mathematician: do you have the formula?

    deniro: you talkin to me?

    mathematician: yes, give me the numbers please.

    deniro: you must be talking to me, i dont see anyone else.

    mathematician: yes, im talking to you, why is this such a problem fo you?

    deniro: you got a problem?

    mathematician: oh god.

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    1. Re:the plot thinkens by digitalsushi · · Score: 2


      When did they make a De Niro AliceBot?

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    2. Re:the plot thinkens by inerte · · Score: 5, Funny

      Continuing:

      deniro: you got a problem?

      mathematician: a - 4b * log(x/7) = 0

      deniro: oh god

    3. Re:the plot thinkens by deft · · Score: 2

      mod that up, now THAT IS FUNNY!!
      good job!

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    4. Re:the plot thinkens by digitalsushi · · Score: 2

      http://digitalsushi.com/st/arnold-sd.wav

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    5. Re:the plot thinkens by (void*) · · Score: 2

      7*exp(a/4b)

  11. Ramanujan? by neema · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If he were Indian (or looked anything like G.H. Hardy to play another role), I think the movie of Ramanujan would be greatly impressive if done right. Read "The Man Who Knew Infinity", it's a good story.

  12. Xerox Parc thriller by bluethundr · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'd love to see a film showing the madness of the inventors at PARC inventing the future in which we now live. As far as characters you've got 'em in spades telling that story ! Butler Lampson, Bob Metcalf, Alan Kay, Gary Starkwheather...there's probably be a number of movies and stories you could tell. Not sure how compelling it might be a lay populace, but with characters that strong a writer might should (I would suppose) be able to taylor a story with commercial appeal...

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    1. Re:Xerox Parc thriller by Animats · · Score: 2

      I never thought those guys were that wierd. I toured PARC in 1975, when the Alto was just coming up. They were basically demonstrating what you'd be able to do in the future by building a personal computer that cost $50K per copy.

    2. Re:Xerox Parc thriller by geoswan · · Score: 2

      That reminds me, does anyone know why Takedown was never released? I read that it had Mitnick smash Tsutomu Shimomura with the lid of a garbage can, in a back alley, when, IRL, they had never physically met.

  13. Anyone remember this one? by grumpygrodyguy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I think Deniro should try his hand at this one.

    Though Michael Douglas will be hard to surpass. Give the protagonist a Phd in computer science and this movie will be both current and relevant. Something most films are missing these days.

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    1. Re:Anyone remember this one? by Skyshadow · · Score: 4, Funny
      How about having Hillary Rosen use her nefarious connections to have a young Shawn Fanning-esqe character killed by hitmen, who are blissfully unaware that his father is actually a retired mafia hitman hiding in the witness relo program (played, of course, by DeNiro). Revenge ensues.

      The ending where DeNiro reaps death apon the entire RIAA would have an awfully satisfying feel (esp. if it were filmed without special effects). Maybe the sequel could take down the MPAA.

      [Pictures Jack Valenti being knifed by DeNiro. Smiles.]

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    2. Re:Anyone remember this one? by morgajel · · Score: 2

      damn, I wouldn't even get that one off of kazaa outta respect.

      I'd pay money for that!

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  14. I have a CN script by Rui+del-Negro · · Score: 4, Funny

    Earth is about to be hit by a huge asteroid and the only way to save mankind it is to use something with a big enough mass to push the asteroid off its course.

    That's when CowboyNeal springs into action (powered by the world's largest catapult, naturally).

    In a dramatic sequence, he misses the asteroid completely. Humanity prepares to be obliterated (shots of Arafat and Sharon hugging, Bush in bed with Osama, etc.). But the scientists notice that, without CowboyNeal's mass, Earth's orbit has changed slightly, and the asteroid narrowly misses.

    The film ends with a shot fo CowboyNeal landing on the moon and eating it.

    RMN
    ~~~

    1. Re:I have a CN script by Enonu · · Score: 2, Troll

      Haha fat people haha!

      The over-weight are the only minority group out there where it's still ok to make fun of them. Rephrase the above with black people spitting out watermellon seeds so much that it changes the Earth's orbit, and you'll see my point. This post will probably be moderated troll just for mentioning that stereotype.

    2. Re:I have a CN script by digitalsushi · · Score: 2

      Haha fat people haha!

      But... but... all of us here are fat and it still got modded funny...

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    3. Re:I have a CN script by ari_j · · Score: 2

      I'm not fat, but I could be if I so chose.

    4. Re:I have a CN script by ari_j · · Score: 2

      ...Bush in bed with Osama...

      Are you calling Bush a necrophiliac?

    5. Re:I have a CN script by Hallow · · Score: 2

      The really not funny thing is... fat people are not a minority. They're actually the majority in the US, with over 1/2 of the population being overwieght, and a good sized (no pun intended) amount being obese.

    6. Re:I have a CN script by llywrch · · Score: 2

      I also have one. The last line of dialogue (if you don't mind spoilers) is:

      `` `I'm sorry' ain't gonna save our sorry butts right now."

      But I'm not sure if I should give the line to CB or his long-suffering sidekick ``Li'l Anime Fan."

      Geoff

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    7. Re:I have a CN script by battjt · · Score: 2

      I think most of us choose to be fat (I realize not all, but most of us given enough incentive can lose weight).

      One can not choose not to be black, short, female, ugly, Indian, or wheel chair bound. (Except a under extreme circumstances)

      Joe

      Joe

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    8. Re:I have a CN script by smoondog · · Score: 2

      One can not choose not to be black, short, female, ugly, Indian, or wheel chair bound. (Except a under extreme circumstances)

      What? That's a damn lie! Didn't you see Soul Man?

    9. Re:I have a CN script by Jester99 · · Score: 2

      Have to disagree with you there.

      This guy [michaeljackson.com] changed his race. And it certainly looks like he's changed his (to use the pronoun lightly) gender...

    10. Re:I have a CN script by vought · · Score: 2

      Oh, poor fat guy. Geez. Yeah, fat people are funny. I'm fat. Big deal.

      What about white trash? It's OK to make fun of them too, isn't it? I mean, I hear about white trash and how stupid/inbred/whatever they are weekly. Gof forbid we make fun of people who are rotund!

      Maybe DeNiro should produce a screenplay about a fat white trash hacker-type guy who gets his feeling hurt after someone posts something hurtful to him on Slashdot. Then he turns evil because of the world's insensitivity and invents technology for hijacking Tivos and forcing them to record the new Donahue show. Yeah.

      Grow a thicker skin. I can't stand the victim culture this country has become.

    11. Re:I have a CN script by JimPooley · · Score: 2

      And your problem is? I suspect your problem is you're a fat bastard. Being a porker is not about race or creed, it's about eating too much. It's something you can do something about - you can exercise, you can eat less.
      On top of that, being a fat bastard IS BAD FOR YOU!
      So stop whining, fatty!

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    12. Re:I have a CN script by dasmegabyte · · Score: 2

      That's because fatties could prevent their plight. Cigarette smokers, addicts and drunks are parodied for the same reason.

      Please don't feed me an "oh its really hard" line. I know it is. It's also essential. I'd love to balloon above my normally 30 lbs overweight stature...i love to eat...but I don't love dying early.

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  15. Re:What about Pi? by scotch · · Score: 2
    Pi is only superficially about science (actually, mathematics), especially since the goal is not accurate portrayal of scientific ideas. What Pi is really about (like all great movies) is madness. And a fucking killer soundtrack.

    HTH

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  16. Do the Feynman story by AxelTorvalds · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I could see De Niro doing a really good Feynman. Feynman was brilliant above and beyond the call of duty, had a fascinating life and was kind of quirky. I could see De Niro doing him pretty well, with that New York accent.

    1. Re:Do the Feynman story by superid · · Score: 2

      This was exactly the same thought I had....although I think it would be a bit of a stretch for De Niro to play R.F. :)

      I was absolutely spellbound by the biography of Feynman shown on NOVA over 10 years ago. Last Journey of a Genius was remarkable and I've been searching for it ever since. I confirmed that it is a BBC production and that WGBH in Boston (NOVA producers) will not be airing it again as far as they know.

      I have contacted dozens and dozens of libraries and also these folks to try and beg/borrow/steal a copy of this tape so I can see it again.

      I publicly make this pledge of a $50 donation to the EFF for information leading to me securing this tape!

      SuperID

    2. Re:Do the Feynman story by Zoop · · Score: 2

      Ditto, but he'd have to go from Menacing and Cynical to unconcerned and playful. DeNiro is good at what he does, but apart from his appearance in Brazil, which was strange and cynical, he's usually menacing and cynical.

      I agree, though, he has the look and accent.

    3. Re:Do the Feynman story by ElrondHubbard · · Score: 2

      Actually, this movie has already been done. I haven't seen it myself, but I believe it covers his years working on the Manhattan project, including the death of his wife.

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    4. Re:Do the Feynman story by jmichaelg · · Score: 2

      Are you sure you have the title right? I found The Best Mind Since Einstein.

  17. I got one for you... by anonymous_wombat · · Score: 3, Funny
    How about a fat software engineer who keeps building products for a succession of companies, and his company goes bankrupt each time the product is about to be released?

    They could get Jon Lovitz to play me (I mean the software engineer).

  18. Cube... by mekkab · · Score: 2

    Super-tight movie. Very SF, but very social studies, as well.

    If you liked Pi, you might like Cube (they even have it in blockbuster)

    Also, ANGEL DUST.
    Ohhh, soo good! It truly lives up to the phrase "phsychological thriller"

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    1. Re:Cube... by scotch · · Score: 2
      I was really looking forward to "Cube" - great idea, some awesome sets and effects, but ultimately disappointing as science fiction.

      YMMV

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  19. Brazil by scotch · · Score: 4, Funny
    Did DeNiro already forget about Brazil? How many truly great science fiction movies does he think one actor deserves to be in? ;) Maybe SF isn't exactly what he is looking for:

    DeNiro: I'm looking to get a part in one of those movies like Memento or "A beautiful mind"
    Agent: You mean a science related movie?
    DeNiro: No, I mean an Oscar winner - it's been a while

    Thanks, I'll be here all week.

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  20. It's just a gimmick by GuyMannDude · · Score: 3, Insightful

    In what way was Memento a science-oriented film?

    It wasn't and I'd wager that De Niro et. al don't really want a film about science or even about scientists. What they want is another standard Hollywood film (note that the 'prize', if you win, is help developing their scripts from filmmakers. That means the same morons who put out crap every year are going to help you "improve" your story.) that has the gimmick of having a scientist in it. Why? Because any reviewer who sees the film and likes it will inevitably draw comparisons or make some comment about A Beautiful Mind even if the only similiary is that both films star a scientist or mathematician. People will read the review and say to themselves "Hey, I liked A Beautiful Mind, so I'll probably like this new movie as well." This is a standard trick in Hollywood -- try to associate your crap movie with something the audience already has a fondness for.

    A Beautiful Mind (which was good mostly due to Jennifer Connley -- how did she stay so damn good looking?).

    You ever see her in "Career Opportunities"? You think she looks good now at 30-something, you should see her in that film when she was 21 or 22. Yow!

    GMD

    1. Re:It's just a gimmick by Skyshadow · · Score: 2
      You ever see her in "Career Opportunities"? You think she looks good now at 30-something, you should see her in that film when she was 21 or 22. Yow!

      Are you kidding? I've seen it so many times that I can close my eyes and see the scene where they make her ride the K-Mart horse thingie.

      [stops, closes eyes, smiles]

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    2. Re:It's just a gimmick by Dirtside · · Score: 2

      That's nothing -- you should see her in "Mulholland Falls"... topless.

      (No, not Lynch's "Mulholland Drive," which is a much better movie. Connelly's chest is just about the only thing to recommend about "Mulholland Falls.")

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    3. Re:It's just a gimmick by Nailer · · Score: 2

      It wasn't and I'd wager that De Niro et. al don't really want a film about science or even about scientists. What they want is another standard Hollywood film (...) that has the gimmick of having a scientist in it.

      Vipul's Razor: or maybe De Niro just wants to be involved in a film that makes audiences think.

    4. Re:It's just a gimmick by geoswan · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Films don't always fuck things up. In Infinity Mathew Broderick plays Richard Feynman when he was young.

      I'd happily pay to see De Niro playing an older Feynman. Did Feynman's role on the Challenger investigation have sufficient heroic elements? The poor guy was living with cancer during the investigation.

    5. Re:It's just a gimmick by Jonathan · · Score: 2

      Nah, _Infinity_ was just the standard -- guy meets girl, girl gets sick, girl dies, boo hoo hoo story that Hollywood has done over and over again ever since "Love Story". The fact that the guy in Infinity was a great physicist was pretty irrelevant -- he could have just as easily been a shoe salesman so far as the plot was concerned. Yes, I know it was factually based on the death of Feynman's first wife -- but that doesn't make the melodrama any less banal.

    6. Re:It's just a gimmick by EvanED · · Score: 2

      Let's just say that Feynman was more independent than the others...

      He also wrote a section which was going to be included in the actual report, but he got fed up with revisions the commission was making to it, so they compromised and added it as an appendix (Appendix F to be precise).

      There was a time where he demonstrated the effect of coldness on the rubber during a inquiry. He was cut off from following through on it during the conference, but the press picked up on it afterword, and it made it onto the front page of the NY Times the next day, with Feynman's picture where the article continues inside.

      I'd post a video of this if I had one, but I'm not sure if one exists. I did an extensive [for high school] report (~35 pg) on the Challenger during which I went through about 4 hours of documentaries. While Feynman's experiment was mentioned - with a demonstration in one of the documentaries by the professor in charge of the video - none had the actual clip. I tried practically every video source I could get my hands on for free (mainly from Penn State's library system). I'd think the Nat'l Archives would have it, but I can't see why they would do a demonsration of what Feynman did instead of showing the actual clip when they had no shortage of other clips from the inquiry.

      If you'd like to read about his contribution, "What Do You Care What Other People Think" has his account of the investigation in the third part of the book. It's short, and is a quick and immenesely enjoyable and hilarious read.

      If you'd like to read his appendix, NASA has it on it's Challenger site. As I don't feel like dealing with paragraphing, I won't make these links:
      NASA's page for Challenger stuff in general:
      http://history.nasa.gov/sts51l.html

      The Report Feynman helped author:
      http://history.nasa.gov/rogersrep/51lcove r.htm

      And specifically Appendix F:
      http://history.nasa.gov/rogersrep/v2appf.htm

      The transcript from Feynman's experiment:
      http://history.nasa.gov/rogersrep/v4p art4.htm (scroll down to page 679)

    7. Re:It's just a gimmick by netringer · · Score: 2
      There was a time where [Feynman] demonstrated the effect of coldness on the rubber [Challenger solid booster O-ring] during a inquiry. He was cut off from following through on it during the conference, but the press picked up on it afterword, and it made it onto the front page of the NY Times the next day, with Feynman's picture where the article continues inside.
      He wasn't cut off. It went over the air live. I saw it live. I was home playing hookey that day and just happened to tune in right when gave the "I have a cup of ice water here - 0 degrees celsius" rebuttal testimony. He was actually supposed to be questioning the NASA project manager who was testifying. The project manager had just testified that the O-ring was not a problem in the cold.

      Feynman said in his last book that he was led to the demonstration by the nose with subtle hints from Major Donald Kutnya, who ran space shuttle program for the Air Force.
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    8. Re:It's just a gimmick by EvanED · · Score: 2

      >>He wasn't cut off.

      True, but Rogers pretty much ended that interview immediatly afterwords by saying something along the lines of 'we'll be looking at weather some other time.' Either that or any intervening testimony was stricken from the official transcript, which seems unlikely because they probably would have stricken Feynman's original lines as well. So while he wasn't cut off per se, you get the sense from reading the transcript that he kind of wishes that he could have expounded on what he said. I believe he mentions this explicitly in What Do You Care...

      >>Feynman said in his last book that he was led to the demonstration by the nose with subtle hints from Major Donald Kutnya, who ran space shuttle program for the Air Force.

      Absolutely correct. In fact, I should have mentioned this in my first post. Kutyna was told by NASA engineers about their suspicions that blow-by in the O-rings, partially due to the cold weather, caused the explosion. Neither the engineers nor Kutyna could reveal their thoughts without fear of being fired, so Kutyna hinted to Feynman about what he had heard from the engineers, and Feynman took it from there.

    9. Re:It's just a gimmick by geoswan · · Score: 2
      EvanED, netringer and I have all read Feynman's autobiographical books, "Surely you are joking Mr Feynman", and "What do you care what other people think." And I am sure I speak for the other two that the rest of you should pick these books up, if you haven't done so already.

      Those two books were written by Feynman's young protege Ralph Lieghton. There is a third book about a plan Feynman and Leighton had to go to Tuva. This one was published after Feynman's death under Leighton's name. And I'd recommend it too.

      I don't care if Feynman was maneuvered by General Kutnya. This doesn't undermine my sense of his courage and character. Rather that he could realize and acknowledge that Kutnya did drop some broad hints adds to my sense of his character.

      I still think DeNiro would be well served to see if a good script could be written around Feynman for him. I spent some time yesterday casting this movie. I'd cast someone with humour and gravitas for Kutnya. I'd cast someone good for Leighton too.

    10. Re:It's just a gimmick by EvanED · · Score: 2

      >>EvanED, netringer and I have all read Feynman's autobiographical books, "Surely you are joking Mr Feynman", and "What do you care what other people think." And I am sure I speak for the other two that the rest of you should pick these books up, if you haven't done so already.

      I've read both when I got them from a library; both are on my 'buy' list. :)

      >>Those two books were written by Feynman's young protege Ralph Lieghton.

      But they were transcripts of what Feynman said, right? At least that's the impression I got was.

      >>There is a third book about a plan Feynman and Leighton had to go to Tuva.

      This I haven't seen. What's it called?

      >>I don't care if Feynman was maneuvered by General Kutnya. This doesn't undermine my sense of his courage and character. Rather that he could realize and acknowledge that Kutnya did drop some broad hints adds to my sense of his character.

      My point wasn't to say that Feynman was outmaneuvered, just to lay additional credit where it's due. It was still Feynman's idea of how to present it, for example. If I came across as trying to drive credit away from Feynman I'd just like to say that this was not my intention in the least.

      On a different thought, I haven't seen Infinity. Is it worth it? Is it something, say, Blockbuster would have?

  21. DeNiro is not fit to play CowboyNeal! by MrWinkey · · Score: 2

    We need some sort of mutant hybrid.......

    The body and 1 liners of Arnold.....

    The brains of Linux or maybe Roblimo.....

    I will code you up.....(FLEX)

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    1. Re:DeNiro is not fit to play CowboyNeal! by digitalsushi · · Score: 2

      Audh!!!. Dher whinner en dheh enhd was widdoud dyhing- I toldh ehm dat his prahcess was teminated. Chill audt- I hused dhash nayn!!! Lhook troo dheh prahcess tayhble efh you dhun bhelivhe me!

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    2. Re:DeNiro is not fit to play CowboyNeal! by digitalsushi · · Score: 2

      http://digitalsushi.com/st/arnold-sd.wav (oops, i replied to the wrong one already with this. tired enough to post it, tired enough to post it in the wrong spot)

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  22. Turing by 00_NOP · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Next year is the 60th anniversary of the most important battle in human history - Kursk.

    At every point in that battle the USSR's armed forces outwitted and out fought the Nazis. Now, that is because of the great skills and abilities of the Red Army and Red Airforce by 1943. But it is also because of the superior intelligence available to the allies as a whole - and one man, Alan Turing, is responsible for that.

    Kursk is little known and understood in the west - but it is worth stating this simple fact: it was the first time the Nazi blitzkreig was stopped in summer campaigning weather. It was a seminal event in human history that has been covered up by the cold war for too long.

    But better than that, it was the moment when scientific rationality (by which I mean the triumph of intelligence and not soime bizarre Stalinist idea of 'scientific socialism') triumphed over the will to power.

    There could be a great, epic, film here and I wish I could write it.

    1. Re:Turing by 00_NOP · · Score: 2

      Yes, Turing was prosecuted and his life did end sadly. But that should not blind us to the great achievements of his life - especially in the practical sense. His paper on computable numbers was a scientific triumph, but what mattered to humanity was that he was The Man Who Won The War!

      It's time we celebrated his successes and what they mean for all of us. Not least because we all know that freedom has to defended as well as just enjoyed.

  23. They're in touch with the common people by anonymous_wombat · · Score: 2
    To be considered, scripts must be received at Tribeca by Nov. 1. They can be mailed to Tribeca Film Institute,...

    This is the way to attract writers about science and technology, require that the script be sent through physical mail.

  24. Re:What about Pi? by gwernol · · Score: 2

    Pi and Gattaca are good films, but the article specifically mentioned this should be a film about science, not a science fiction film. The two are not synonymous (c.f. anything with Ahnuld in it).

    Also I rather suspect that Mr. DeNiro was looking for an original script, not a remake of an existing film.

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  25. Half naked bongo playing, De niro, QED... by mekkab · · Score: 2

    Yeah, I'd pay 8 bucks to see that!

    make it so!

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  26. Alan Alda in QED might work... by jmichaelg · · Score: 2
    ...since the article leaves open that De Niro might be looking for a movie to produce and not necessarily act in.

    This review, and this one, and this one all seemed to like it. But more importantly, Kip Thorne said when he saw Alda in Los Angeles that it was like spending some time with Feynman once again.

    I know if QED opened within 200 miles of me, I'd go see it. Alda has done great work and Feynman's life was amazing.

  27. Someone Should Adapt Bill Napier's Books by szyzyg · · Score: 2

    Bill is an astronomer who writes scientifically orientated thrillers - 'Nemesis' is about a killer asteroid with an interesting twist, Bill is a specialist in impact catastrophes and this book really shows this off.

    He's also released 'Revelations' - another thriller aroudn the theme of zero point energy, and most recently 'The Lure' takes an interesting angle on messages from other races....

    Slashdot fans will love these, the hero in Nemesis is a Linux user too....

  28. I'm sorry to hear that... by mekkab · · Score: 2

    For a student film I thought it went all the way around: great effecs, great story, great climax, great ending.

    I guess that means you are probably less inclined to check out Angel Dust!

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  29. Why not use a proven script? by joneshenry · · Score: 4, Funny
    Reuse an idea that everyone in the target audience has seen, something shown on US national TV. Have a spunky child play a major role (Sixth Sense). Show young scientists/inventors who are struggling to convince the establishment of their worth. Have some sort of environmental angle where irresponsible use of nuclear weapons causes a threat to the world, and throw in a friendly AI/robot.

    De Niro needs to remake Godzilla vs. Megalon.

  30. Mathematicians by singularity · · Score: 2

    As a recently college graduate in mathematics, I have taken it upon myself to read a bunch of biographies of famous mathemeticians (almost an oxymoron outside of academia).

    Has anyone else noticed that almost any famous mathematician (or one that is referred to as "great") was always more than a little strange and, oftentimes, a little crazy?

    As someone who is always interested in seeing math and pure science appear as "cool", I am very glad to see movies like these being made.

    "Good Will Hunting" and "Octobery Sky" are great examples of movies that show that scientists and mathematicians need not be regarded as "losers."

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    1. Re:Mathematicians by GigsVT · · Score: 2

      Read about Edison- he electrified the urinals at train stations and killed a hobo

      I can't find one reference to this, at all. I think you just made it up.

      The closest thing to it I could find was this:

      1881 - Dr. Albert Southwick, a dentist and former steamboat engineer, sees elderly drunkard touch terminals of electrical generator in Buffalo, New York. He is amazed at how quickly and apparently painlessly the man is killed and describes episode to friend State Senator David McMillan.

      Also, Edison was known to publicly demonstrate the "dangers of AC power" by electrocuting animals in public demonstrations in an attempt to discredit Tesla's AC power in favor of his DC system.

      Don't start urban legends, get the fact right if you are going to spew something controversial like that.

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  31. well, he does visit science museums... by Mark+Danger+Chen · · Score: 2, Informative

    I remember he came to visit the Oregon Museum of Science and Industry with lil kids (I'm guessing nephews or nieces) when he was on location in Portland a few years ago. (And he said we have one of the best science museums in the world!)

    So, we can guess he is sincere in his interest in science and giving scientists more limelight.

    mark
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  32. C'mon by _ph1ux_ · · Score: 5, Funny

    I thought there were plenty of Script K1dd13z on Slashdot. There has to be some bash scripter... oh wait. Nevermind.

  33. Quake 3 - Shockwave Online Engine in 2.8mb.... by Komrade+S. · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...got rejected AGAIN. For those who actually read things of value, visit the crazy bastards who made this thing here. Be warned that it is in alpha.

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  34. Flowers for Algernon by GuyMannDude · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Ha ha. Seriously, though, this might be a good time for a remake of that famous tale. The movie that exists ("Charly") is pretty laughable and dated in spots (like when he takes off for a cruise around the countryside on a motorcycle). And laboratory manipulation of living creatures is always in the news these days. Seems like the time is right for a well-done version movie version of that story. Can you imagine the power of a film that shows a good actor knowing that he's slipping back into his former self and being powerless to stop it. A good treatment could make a really chilling contemporary tragedy.

    GMD

  35. Cowboy neal? by geekoid · · Score: 2

    it said "The script must have a scientist, mathematician or engineer as the lead charactor..."
    not
    " The script must have a dork as the lead charactor..."

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  36. How about... by inerte · · Score: 2

    Place: Purgatory

    The Objetive: Geek Heaven

    The Conditions: Be judged by a jury formed by the great intellects of our history, Michelangelo, Socrates, Lincon, Freud, Newton...

    The plot: An analisys of what the dead person did in his life.

    The Characters: CEOs of Worldcom and Andersen, RIAA members, corrupt politicians, Bill Gates... ;)

    I think this could revive some lost values.

    Freud to Bill Gates: Does this picture of a penguin reminds you of your mother?

  37. Re:This is stuff that matters? by smoondog · · Score: 2

    Dunno if I care about the 800mhz Ipaq (or this story) but the AR Quake has already come and gone off of /.

    Slashdot story ARQuake

    -Sean

  38. A Hawking film by GuyMannDude · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Why not just do a Hawking biography and be done with it?

    That could be a good film. I don't honestly know anything about his life story but 'getting to know him' and what he's accomplished through a movie might be a good way for people to stop thinking of him as that poor 'wheelchair guy' and see him as something more.

    GMD

  39. Re:It's not a true story... by scotch · · Score: 2
    You're correct. Also, since "A Beautiful Mind" is about madness, it might possible be great.

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  40. OT: Jen Connolly by GuyMannDude · · Score: 2

    Are you kidding? I've seen it so many times that I can close my eyes and see the scene where they make her ride the K-Mart horse thingie.

    I was personally happy when she won the Oscar for her work. Let's face it, she's paid her dues in Hollywood. She had to do a lot of borderline-sexploitation stuff when she was younger. I mean, she spends the last third of that movie in a skin-tight white tanktop with no bra on underneath while her co-stars are practically drooling at her chest.

    That having been said, I can pretty much replay all her scenes in that movie over in my head, too :)

    GMD

  41. Already done by Dirtside · · Score: 2

    I have come up with the most remarkable science-based movie script, but it's too large to fit into the text box.

    It's about some guy named Pierre.

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  42. Alan Turing by x+mani+x · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Read this brief summary about Alan Turing's life.

    A serious, well written script documenting his incredible, tragic life would make A Beautiful Mind seem about as powerful as Pee-Wee's Big Adventure (not to knock Pee-Wee's Big Adventure - great movie, it's just no tour de force).

    1. Re:Alan Turing by Vertex+Shader · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Actually, the name of the move was "Breaking the Code". It's an excellent movie made in Britain with Jacobi as Turning. It's based on the book "Alan Turing: The Enigma" by Andrew Hodges and the play by Hugh Whitemore. Jacobi is definitely one of the most under rated actors living today, and his performance in "Breaking the Code" shows just how great he is. In movie he shows a man who really can think, unlike the shallow and unsatisfying performance Crowe gave in "A Beautiful Mind". Turning, who was homosexual in Britain during a time when homosexuality was considered illegal. He was arrested, trailed and found guilty of gross indecency. His reward for breaking the Enigma machine and turning the tide of World War Two was to undergo sex drug therapy. Eventually Turning took his own life by eating an apple laced with cyanide, and his role in history is gradually being forgotten.

  43. oh.my.god by hysterion · · Score: 2

    De Niro's gonna play Dick Feynman and it'll be a festival of dyspeptic grimaces.

  44. Re:OT: Jen Connolly by MrResistor · · Score: 2

    She had to do a lot of borderline-sexploitation stuff when she was younger.

    Speaking of which, have you seen "Mullhuland Falls"? Wow! I actually thought it was a good movie, too, but Jen Connolly in black lace lingerie made it fantastic for me :-)

    And just to be totally OT, I found a picture of Jen Connolly where she looks exactly like a friend of mine, whom I sadly never managed to hook up with.

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  45. Pretty Cool of De Niro's Production Company by DaytonCIM · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "Actor Robert De Niro is inviting screenwriters with an interest in science to send their scripts to his film production company."

    "Two winning writers will get financial assistance, along with help developing their scripts from filmmakers and scientists. At least one of the scripts will be read at De Niro's Tribeca Film Festival in 2003, and a film based on one of the screenplays will debut at the 2004 festival."


    Aside from the inane comments of Doron Weber, this sounds like a great opportunity for aspiring screenplay writers. And I love the fact that they are promoting science (definitely something in this country that needs MASSIVE PROMOTION!)

    I do hope that De Niro stays away from the "Hackers" / "Gen X" type kiddie movies that promote large corporations and their view, rather than the truth; and goes for something serious and honest... maybe a story based on Kevin Mitnick or something chronicling the birth of the Internet (definitely room for characterization...) or a comedy based on BOFH.

  46. If Homer would have ended the movie. by garcia · · Score: 2

    it would only become exciting if they made it "fictionalized" when one of the PARC guys goes postal gutting the exec's at Xerox for denying that this would be the way of the future, castrating Jobbs for stealing their ideas and calling it a Macintosh, and then cutting out Billy's tongue and his arms before shoving a chainsaw into his chest.

    Ahhh, my Homie.

  47. Last good appearence by Bob is when? by Kingpin · · Score: 2


    I used to like actors like Bob De Niro and Nicholas Cave quite a lot. But they have sold out. De Niro as Eddie Murphy's sidekick? Come on.. That last burglar movie sucked also. In fact, everything he has touched since Heat sucked.

    I used to believe that actors like De Niro, Cage and Nicholson really had class. What a disappointment.

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    1. Re:Last good appearence by Bob is when? by geekoid · · Score: 2

      Keep in mind, there are a lot of people that can screw up a good movie, from Studio Heads to producers, directors, actors, writers, editors.

      I wouldn't be surprised if the movie with eddie murphy and DeNiro ended up being completly different than how it started. Once the actor has committed, in writing, there pretty much stuck.

      I'm not saying whether or not they sold out, just that a movie is a lot bigger then what you see on screen.

      What did Nick Cage do that you considered "sold out"?

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    2. Re:Last good appearence by Bob is when? by kubrick · · Score: 2

      What did Nick Cage do that you considered "sold out"?

      Con Air? While Malkovich and Buscemi made enjoyable villains, that movie was no Wild at Heart, or even Raising Arizona.

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    3. Re:Last good appearence by Bob is when? by be-fan · · Score: 2

      Hey, I liked Con Air. It was a bit different from other movies, but as far as action movies go, it was pretty god. Not a bad story, either.

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    4. Re:Last good appearence by Bob is when? by Kingpin · · Score: 2

      What did Nick Cage do that you considered "sold out"?

      Movies like ConAir, 8MM and Snake Eyes really don't make him look good.

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    5. Re:Last good appearence by Bob is when? by kubrick · · Score: 2

      Yeah, but it was a Jerry Bruckheimer (sp?) film, and thus a sell-out by definition. :)

      Some great action sequences, and always played with tongue firmly in cheek, but not an artistic success by any measure... I'm sure it made good money though.

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  48. Mis-spelling by GuyMannDude · · Score: 5, Funny

    All movies, even light-hearted comic romances, should have Joe Peschi beaten severely and buried alive.

    You mis-spelled his name. It's P-a-u-l-y S-h-o-r-e.

    GMD

  49. The next what? by Lumpish+Scholar · · Score: 2
    "What we're doing here is really looking for the next A Beautiful Mind, Memento or Good Will Hunting."
    The first and third are about mathematicians; the second is about an insurance salesman. Is this some new species of "scientist"?
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  50. Want some tips? by Anonvmous+Coward · · Score: 2

    Hey dudes, I found an NYT article that illustrates the basics to any good scifi movie here. Get those pencils going, it's easier than you think!

  51. Cowboy Neal saves the world script: by joeaic · · Score: 2, Funny

    rm -rf slash-code/

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  52. Re:OT: Jen Connolly by georgewad · · Score: 2, Funny

    Requium for a Dream.
    ass to ass, ass to ass, ass to ass, ass to ass

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  53. Does "De Niro" have a first name? by cr@ckwhore · · Score: 2

    I don't really pay attention to famous people, so could somebody explain who this "De Niro" character is, and why I should know about him?

    thanks.

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  54. The life story of Galois by SIGFPE · · Score: 2
    He pretty well invented group theory and gave the most amazing proof that there's no formula (using +,*,/,-,nth root) for the roots to a quintic using what's now called Galois theory. But the interesting thing is that he died as a result of a duel and there is an apocryphal story that he spent the last night of his life writing down everything he knew about mathematics in the hopes that his knowledge wouldn't be lost to future generations. Galois theory was used to prove Fermat's Last Theorem among other things.


    And it being Hollywood they could arrange to have Galois survive the duel and have a happy ending.

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  55. Re:What about Pi? by DunbarTheInept · · Score: 2

    Pi was about insanity. And it had almost nothing at all to do with science. (Math != science). Was it unique? Yes. Did I like it? No. It was painful to watch the character going through yet another headache attack again and again when I'd much rather they spend that wasted screen time on something useful, like letting the audience in on what the heck the movie is actually about. And the cheezy numerology business with the religious folks didn't help it at all. You know that scene where the main character's mentor is giving a speech to him, telling him to give up the pursuit of Pi because that way lays insanity? I'd wished he'd given that speech to the scriptwriter so I didn't end up wasting my time watching the movie.

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  56. Screenplay Resources by jmoriarty · · Score: 2

    We momentarily interrupt the onslaught of goofy script ideas...

    <SERIOUS>
    Does anyone know of some good books or URLs on screenplay writing, formatting, etc.? This sounds like it might be fun, but I don't know the rules of the game.
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    We now return you to our regularly scheduled program. Next up, a +5 Funny!

  57. Hmmm..... by Kappelmeister · · Score: 2

    IIAS (screenwriter). If I worked in Hollywood, I might naturally conclude that De Niro wants to reproduce the success of all three said films. I might therefore graft them together in the most commerical way possible. Let me know what you think, Nov. 1 is not too far off.

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    INT - CLASSROOM - DAY

    LEONARD
    One more step, I'll dethink ya, buddy.

    WILLOW
    Come on Lenny, let's go home.

    LEONARD
    It's a code. There's something else here, I can sense it.

    WILLOW
    What do you mean?

    LEONARD
    Look at that Bernoulli hack. Now I know for a fact, no self-respecting professor would write that if he knew his students could get it.

    WILLOW
    Sorry, sir.

    LEONARD
    Did I say "Dear Lord" or "Dear Willow," ya four-fingered, two-bit phantom?

    WILLOW
    You talkin' to me, Lenny?

    LEONARD
    Dear lord.

    Leonard stares intently at the blackboard, his cold grey eyes madly internalizing the complicated equations.

    LEONARD
    Let me see.

    WILLOW
    Look, Lenny. The astrophysics professor left this on the board.

    LEONARD MATHMAN, an 50-year old janitor, cleans near a college blackboard with his imaginary friend, WILLOW.

  58. Adapt something by Gregory Benford by Bingo+Foo · · Score: 2
    I'd love to see one of Gregory Benford's books adapted. He captures, better than anyone I've seen, the true excitement and drama of unexpected observations, peer review, presenting at conferences, and epiphanic pen-and-paper calculations.

    No, this isn't meant to be funny.

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  59. Re:OT: Jen Connolly by mekkab · · Score: 3, Funny

    An oscar means her never having to take her clothes off again.

    Not unless she wants to, of course. Dare to dream.

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  60. Re:How about one about the scientists.... by Bingo+Foo · · Score: 2
    This would actually rock. My movieman pitch sounds like: "JFK" meets "Apollo 13"

    They could show the inventive and resourceful engineers coming up with clutch fixes for a trouble-ridden live hoaxed broadcast.... Honestly, I'd love to see a movie like this, for pure fantasy value.

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  61. What a friend told me by Sarin · · Score: 2

    A friend of mine is a scriptwriter in the USA, she told me that you get sponsored by the government if you agree to have them dictate certain parts of the script: They make is easier to record your movie in certain cities and you can make free use of the militairy things (she told me there's even an dedicated goverment agency that's taking care about these movie things).
    I think it's really bad when a government starts to use the movies as a form of propaganda, instead of artistic view on something, or perhaps mix of both. Many movies these days are disguised propaganda, when you think about it.

  62. Fountains of Paradise... by Julz · · Score: 2, Informative

    I would really like to see a movie made based on the book "Fountains on Paradise" by Arthur C. Clarke. This book uses technology which has just become a reality and is even being considered as a viable way to get out to space with less effort.
    If the story did get transformed into a movie then it might spur on some more development into the exploration of space and funding of projects of the like.

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    1. Re:Fountains of Paradise... by farrellj · · Score: 2

      Let's hear it for Beanstalks! (You gotta read the book!)

      ttyl
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  63. Revenge of the Nerds by DeadBugs · · Score: 2

    "A scientist, mathematician or engineer as the lead charactor"

    And his name must be "Booger"

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  64. That gets me thinking... by abe+ferlman · · Score: 2

    Can the script be in perl?

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  65. Whatever... by John+Harrison · · Score: 2

    I worked as a "hasher" in the cafeteria where Jennifer Connelly ate breakfast. I agree that she looks amazing on film, but it must take some effort. She wasn't particularly radiant when asking why we were out of whatever cereal it was that she wanted. This was probably on purpose in order to not attract attention, but you honestly wouldn't look twice on a Sunday morning.

  66. My GOD, this is SUCH a SIMPLE answer by Zyrmfxl · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Want a pitch, a subject, and a title in one word? Okay...

    TESLA

    Most fascinating scientist in history, I think. Imagine Johnny Depp, in period costume, having a violent epileptic fit in Central Park, then half-consciously carving the diagram for the alternating current generator into the dirt with a stick. Then getting hounded by the government and lesser mortals the rest of his life, inventing everything of any consequence and getting no credit for it. Tragic story, Oscar material all the way.

    Read "Man out of Time," if you haven't. And shame be unto you, for not having read it yet.

    Potential tag lines: "The man who created the world," or "Never have so many owed so much... To one."

    Potential final statement, white words on black screen:

    "In 19XX, a federal appeals court ruled that Nikolai Tesla, and not Marconi, was the actual inventor of radio."

    (cross-fade)

    "The final Edison direct-current generator was taken offline in 19XX. No further experiment or trial in direct current residential voltage has ever been attemped."

    (cross-fade)

    "Fringe scientists continue to pursue Tesla's dream of providing free electricty to all peoples and places of the world via the Tesla Coil."

    (cross-fade)

    "The thousands of pages of handwritten notes produced throughout the final years of Tesla's life continue to be classified at the highest levels of secrecy ever assigned to any government document."

    (cross-fade)

    "It is extremely unlikely that any will ever be made public."

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    1. Re:My GOD, this is SUCH a SIMPLE answer by Zyrmfxl · · Score: 2, Insightful
      I can appreciate that, except that De Niro and Harrelson are both huge, beefy specimens - more suited to Edison, actually - while Tesla was always this kind of thin, wispy, sickly little man with an obsessive germ phobia.

      I don't think Depp would turn it into a cartoon, necessarily, unless Burton directed. Depp really does have the chops, witness "What's Eating Gilbert Grape."

      Another interesting tidbit for inclusion would have to be Tesla's long and fairly close friendship with Mark Twain, of all people.

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    2. Re:My GOD, this is SUCH a SIMPLE answer by geoswan · · Score: 2

      Or how about Leo Szilard who has always been a hero of mine. He had his bag packed, ready to leave when Hitler was elected. He stood up to Groves, Roosevelt, Stimson and Byrnes.

  67. my suggestions by Tablizer · · Score: 2


    I think it would be interesting to have a movie about the making of the atomic bomb. Particularly Openhiemer's (sp?) topsy turvey career and political problems after the bomb project and the moral dilemma his group faced during the project. (Many wanted a demo project in front of Japanese scientists before actual use, but it was feared that there was not enough nuclear material to spend on that and that the Japanese knew that manufacturing it was a tedious process and may have limited impact.)

    Another candidate is the guy who proposed a moon orbiter seperate from the lander during the start of Apollo (I don't remember his name right now). He got a lot of flack, but stood his ground and the logic of his idea eventually prevailed. The final scene could be Armstrong's historical stepping out.

    Manhattan project and Apollo, the two biggies.

    Either that, the Bill Gates story (similar to The Wizards of Silicone Valley, which the stupid movie stores don't carry anymore.) I just hope, they would show both sides of Gates, the good and the bad.

  68. Re:MovieScript v0.1 by Kredal · · Score: 2

    You forgot the part where the script checks to see if it's offered on a P2P system, and self destructs if it is (taking windows/system32 with it).

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  69. Re:What about Pi? by platypus · · Score: 2

    More importantly, if you make the mistake of thinking scientificly about what some people say in this movie, you might loose a lot of fun.

    Paraphrased, scene with the orthodox jews, talking about the number with 257 (or so) digits:
    But you had thousands of years to find this number, you would have found the number just by trying out!

    Unfortunately, 1E+200 is a little to big to count to, even if you have a lot of time on your hands.
    I very much like this movie, but I don't understand why they didn't at least cut of rough edges like this....

  70. Stuff that matters? by jonr · · Score: 2

    How about http://wearables.unisa.edu.au/arquake/
    Or the 800MHz iPaq?
    Yes, I'm pissed off because my stories got rejected, then /. editors add insult to injury and let drivel like this get posted on the frontpage. Who cares? Do you really think that there is a hidden talent lurking here with sci-fi movie script, and /. get into the movie credit list? I'm sorry, but ./ is slowly going to hell. Our "editors" need to show a bit more ambition, or maybe they just get a kick out of pissing us off?
    Yes, feel free to mod me down, but this is just my humble opinion.

  71. De Niro is obviously not a scientist. by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 2

    De Niro is obviously not a scientist, and obviously could not play one. It is possible to play someone more stupid convincingly, but not someone smarter. Give it up, Bob, don't make a stupid movie. Stay with what you know.

  72. Okay, maybe it's possible. by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 3, Funny

    On the other hand, Bob, if you are reading this, and you are serious about doing Feynman, I will coach you in how to act like a scientist. The training will take up to five years, and when it is finished, you will be a scientist, so it won't be difficult to act like one.

  73. In a way, he sort of already did it by wirefarm · · Score: 2

    Ever see 'Awakenings'? (Robin Williams & De Niro)
    It has a similar story, only it's a guy who comes out of a coma only to figure out that he'll be going back in before too long.
    I think it would be a bit too similar - I already get those two movies confused at times...

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  74. I've got one! "That Certain Part" by AndroidCat · · Score: 2
    DeNiro as Spamford Wallace, teamed up with an anti-spammer (pick someone photogenic from Spam Fighters). They have 48 hours to track down an evil (Clearwater) Florida UFO cult that's peddling mind-control drugs as penis pills in their Plot to Take Over the World.

    This is a one-time movie idea, no need to remove. According to S.1618 this is not spam.

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  75. A scientist, mathematician or engineer? by joto · · Score: 2

    But does that description really fit cowboy neal?

  76. The Turbinia by Animats · · Score: 2
    The story of Parsons and the Turbinia is worth a movie. Charles Parsons developed the steam turbine into a workable product. But he had a problem marketing his turbines.

    So, in 1894, he built a turbine-powered boat, the Turbinia. This was the first high speed boat, 103 feet long, only 9 feet wide, with three propeller shafts. (Think PT boat.) Nobody else had motorboats faster than about 12 knots back then. The Turbinia could do 34 knots.

    Parsons hired an aggressive captain to pilot the thing and snuck it into the crowd of small boats watching a review of the British fleet, a naval parade with the top officers of the British Navy and the Queen watching. Captain Leyland waited for the right moment as the Fleet passed by, and then made his move. For the first time ever, a large group of people heard the terrifying whine of big turbines winding up to speed. The Turbinia unfurled a red pennant. She then went zooming through the fleet, and nothing the Royal Navy had could catch it. One Navy ship fired a gun, but the Royal Navy of that era couldn't hit moving targets. (That's another story, and it too has an engineering hero.)

    Parsons was briefly criticized for this by the Royal (British) Navy, but when the Prussian Navy expressed interest in the technology, the Royal Navy stopped griping and started buying Parsons turbines.

    Riding on the Turbinia was dramatic. Flames from the stack, spray everywhere. She had a rough ride, but you got there in a hurry. Pictures and contemporary descriptions exist.

    The Turbinia herself had a successful career. She cruised to Paris, operated in the North Sea, was widely demonstrated, and is now in a museum at Newcastle-on-Tyne.

    Now that's a science/technology story good for a movie.

  77. +1 Interesting by elemental23 · · Score: 2

    Good idea. Too bad it's too late to mod this up some.

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  78. Broderick did a good job playing Feynman by geoswan · · Score: 2
    On a different thought, I haven't seen Infinity. Is it worth it? Is it something, say, Blockbuster would have?

    I had a double bill last night. The Man who would be King, on TVO and Infinity on the CBC. Infinity was good. Of course there were no car chases or anything like that. But a fair number of real incidents from his life made it into the movie. I'll forgive the Brodericks for the liberties they took. (Mathew Broderick directed as well as starred. His mother was credited as the writer.

    I thought Broderick did a pretty good job of capturing Feynman's playful character. I wouldn't mind him doing another movie from later in Feynman's life. Although the pinched a few from his later life. Mind you they left out the whole safecracker thing, which could almost make a movie all by itself.

    One of the question discussed here was how intelligent does an actor have to be to convincingly play a scientist, to our exacting standards. I'd say Broderick managed it.

    It was my impression that Lieghton did more than merely transcribe Feynman's stories. Leighton had been Feynman's protege from his teenage years -- lucky stiff. He had probably heard most of them dozens of times. I imagine he did a fair bit of polishing.

  79. Re:What about Pi? by DunbarTheInept · · Score: 2

    These two statements are not contradictory:
    1 - Math is the lingua franca of science.
    2 - Math is not science.

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