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GameToo Much...... And Die!

A 24-year-old South Korean man died after playing computer games nonstop for 86 hours, police said yesterday. The jobless man, identified by police only by his last name Kim, was found dead at an Internet cafe in Kwangju, 260 kilometres southwest of Seoul, they said. Quoting witnesses, police detective Oh Myong-sik in Kwangju said the man had been virtually glued to the computer since late last Friday and had no decent sleep and meals. The man collapsed in front of the counter early yesterday but soon regained consciousness. He then went to the toilet where he later was found dead, the police officer said. Initial investigation ruled out the possibility of murder, police said. An autopsy was planned. Source Article can be found in The Sydney Morning Herald In related gaming news: sam_handelman writes "In an article on the front page of the online edition, (free reg required) the new york times takes a rather negative look at the rise of broadband gaming in South Korea. The author, Howard W French, is a Times staff writer, with a background in staggering human tragedy, which may help to explain why he thinks my hobby is an epidemic. There was a wired article about Korean broadband (summary: they have lots), which we already discussed."

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  1. Only 86 hours?!?? by ErikTheRed · · Score: 5, Funny

    Geez, dude needed to work on his stamina...

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    1. Re:Only 86 hours?!?? by Jace+of+Fuse! · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'm getting the impression it's not uncommon within the gamer community.

      The difference between him and us is that we're smart enough to take our required dosage of Mountain Dew and Pizza.

      The old saying still stands...

      SLEEP IS FOR THE WEAK.

      And there is the other one...

      DEATH IS NO REASON TO QUIT PLAYING.

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  2. Boots by Samus · · Score: 5, Funny

    Thats the geek way of dieing with your boots on.

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    1. Re:Boots by Guppy06 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Nah, the geek way of dying is saying the 1337-speak equivalent of "Hey, y'all! Watch this!" while chucking 3.5 lbs. of sodium into a lake.

  3. not the game's fault by outsider007 · · Score: 5, Funny

    He then went to the toilet where he later was found dead

    why wasn't this story called "Go to the toilet... and die!?"

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    1. Re:not the game's fault by Guppy06 · · Score: 5, Funny

      "why wasn't this story called "Go to the toilet... and die!?""

      Because we all should have learned that lesson by now with Elvis.

    2. Re:not the game's fault by guttentag · · Score: 5, Funny
      why wasn't this story called "Go to the toilet... and die!?"
      PHB: Good point, outsider. If he'd only stayed in his seat he'd still be alive today.

      Dilbert, I'd like you to write a proposal to choose a committee to draft a proposal for a new company policy that forbids programmers from leaving their seats during working hours.

      Asok: Why can't we just implement the new policy?

      PHB: Asok, go back to your seat right now if you want to live.

  4. Easy fix by InterruptDescriptorT · · Score: 5, Funny

    If the guy puts in a quarter quick enough, he may be able to resume where he left Earth...

    ...I mean off. :-)

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    1. Re:Easy fix by MrEd · · Score: 5, Funny
      Well, look at it this way - at least he didn't have to pay for his 86-hour Internet Cafe bill!

      ... at least not in this world... >:)

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  5. Anyone know what game he was playing? by Tidan · · Score: 5, Funny
    Cause if he couldn't stop playing for 86 hours straight, it's probably worth checking out.

    Unless he was playing Super Mario Bros. 1, and got stuck in minus world. (Yea, I bet nobody remembers that)

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    1. Re:Anyone know what game he was playing? by greenfly · · Score: 5, Informative

      For those of you who *don't* remember that, the negative worlds were an easter egg of sorts in Super Mario 1 that I believe the developers put in there to test the water levels.

      You go to level 1-2, which is underground, and go to the very end of the level, but not through the final pipe, if you stand on top of the pipe and knock out all the blocks to the left of it (but not to the right) and jump backwards a special way, you can walk through the wall and jump in one of the warp zone pipes before they list worlds 3, 4, and 5. If you do that you will warp to a negatively numbered world which is an water level that keeps going.

    2. Re:Anyone know what game he was playing? by Snafoo · · Score: 5, Funny
      If you do that you will warp to a negatively numbered world which is an water level that keeps going.

      Oh wow. So if you complete a complex task perfectly, you're rewarded by being removed to a position where the work is repetitive, impossible and ultimately futile. Minusland is middle management!

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  6. Skip NYTimes reg by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative
    This link will go directly to the article in question, no reg required.

    Thank you, Google News!

  7. I don't get it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    He was fine when he was playing games. Obviously it was going to the crapper that killed him!

    1. Re:I don't get it. by King_TJ · · Score: 5, Funny

      Hey, if you ate LAN party quality snacks and drinks for 86 hours straight - you'd probably have one heinous session at the toilet too.

      Maybe it was just the smell that overpowered him?

  8. /me . . . by acceleriter · · Score: 5, Funny

    . . . pours a bit of Red Bull on the side walk in memory of his homie. I hope I go down in glory like dat.

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  9. That's a long time to hold it... by Radi-0-head · · Score: 5, Funny

    Was it the first time in 86 hours that he had used the restroom? That would kill anyone.

  10. Suspicious that... by Xtraneous · · Score: 5, Funny

    He played for 86 hours, as in the X-86 architecture. So what's next? The new Apple Ad?

    It went like, beep beep beep, and then I died

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    1. Re:Suspicious that... by Glytch · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Best of all, "86" is slang in lots of places for "dead".

      Yes, kids, that's why they gave Maxwell Smart that number, too.

  11. bs by witort · · Score: 5, Funny

    now he's in heaven shouting "OMFG that was such bullshit!"

    1. Re:bs by JanusFury · · Score: 5, Funny

      Except he's shouting it in korean and 3 script kiddies are up there giving him funny looks and asking 'wtf d00d speek english'?

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  12. Re:Game? me too! me too! by diesel_jackass · · Score: 5, Funny

    Wouldn't it be funny if he was trying to beat Doom II? Or some other old game that everybody's beaten? And especially if he didn't make it past the first level or didn't know how to switch guns or something.

    Well, I guess it would be more tragic than funny, but due to the fact that it would be so darwinically sad, that it might get a chuckle or two.

    You like that word "darwinically"? I just made it up, hehe.

  13. I hope the poor sap saved his game by blackbeaktux · · Score: 5, Funny

    It'd be such a waste if he didn't. All that effort for nothing...

  14. Proof! by x136 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That video games are a bad habit and can kill you!

    Wait, no, it's just proof that being a dumbass can kill you. Never mind, carry on.

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  15. Deep Vein Thrombosis? by nzgeek · · Score: 5, Interesting

    IANA Doctor, but although it's primarily an air travel thing, isn't it the case that sitting anywhere for too long can cause blood clots to form in the legs?

    Said clots may detach and make their way to the lungs (causing pulmonary embolus) or brain (causing a stroke).

    Sounds to me that this dude just suffered an extreme attack of stupidity. If you're gonna LAN for a week (or take a long flight) then at least get off your arse and walk around every few hours.

    1. Re:Deep Vein Thrombosis? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      IAA physician. (BTW, do Americans (or is it a New Zealander in this case?) really call all physicians "doctors"? Cute.)

      isn't it the case that sitting anywhere for too long can cause blood clots to form in the legs?

      No. You get a harmless and physiologically normal venous pooling of blood, but if you get clotting from sitting still you suffer from a disease.

  16. I'd love to know what he died OF by blackbeaktux · · Score: 5, Funny

    But then, if he was a true gamer, he obviously died from "natural causes"

  17. Not a real big deal by dlur · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I know from my MUDding experiences that it's not uncommon for folks into games to stay up for more than a few days at a time with nothing but caffiene. In college I use to regularly stay awake for 48 hours straight MUDding.

    I also know quite a few people who are heavily into methamphetamines that stay up for over a week at a time. I know quite a few folks who brag about having stayed awak for 9 days straight and lived to tell about it.

    The best part about having been awake for more than 3 days isn't necesarily the game you're playing, it's the delusious and hallucinations you get. >3 days awake is better than most hits of LSD you get these days.

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  18. Let it be known... by Mashiki · · Score: 5, Interesting

    That many of the internet cafe's there are known for spikeing the water and whatnot. Amphetamine spikeing is common to keep customers in the stores longer and whatnot. There have been several deaths related to this over the last few years.

    Also a goverment crackdown has been done once, as you can see...it hasn't made much of a diffrence.

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    1. Re:Let it be known... by ender81b · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Not that I don't believe you but you should include some links/citations before making a statement like that (I know, crazy talk). I could only find the following:

      Shanghai Cybrcafe Shut Down

    2. Re:Let it be known... by Mashiki · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I suppose I could clairfy. They do put other things in the water to mask it. Koolaid, Tang, ect. I have tasted several diffrent kinds of amphetamine's, and I've also tasted the spiked water they sell. You couldn't taste it but, that was because it was made very sweet and shown as an "energy boosting drink". And unless you actually know what it tastes like, besides a "supposed" energy drink you wouldn't know.

      An example, you have a glass of tea. But the tea kind of stings your tounge, it's listed as an energy boosting tea but; doesn't have any ingrediants. What's in it? Maybe ginger, maybe something else.

      Just let me be clear, I'm not saying that they are all bad guys spikeing the water, but some are. And you have to becareful, especially since they didn't at one time get inspected for selling food or anything else. They may now, but it's been 6mo since I was last in Korea.

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  19. Not an easter egg, a genuine BOOG by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Nope, it was not intentional. A real bug. Here's a ton of info on it.E2 has the scoop.

  20. Counter-Strike by SexyKellyOsbourne · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Depressed and alone on Christmas break during college, I went on a Counter-Strike spree some day in the age of Beta5 that lasted 97 hours straight, only taking breaks to quit drinking coffee and urinate.

    Tiredness did not matter -- everything was a copy of a copy, and I was some sort of killing machine, though I went from top of the list to somewhere in the middle after the first day. After two days, I was screwed up beyond recognition and was hallucinating, thinking that flowers were growing in de_nuke and that Beavis and Butthead were saying "Go Go Go!."

    After the third day, my head and eyes hurt terribly, I had pissed myself and didn't notice for an hour as my legs were totally numb, and everything was a nightmare. I was so wacked out I couldn't do anything but shoot at things that weren't there...... but my obsession could not end as I sat alone in my dorm room.

    I passed out, collapsed on the floor, and slept for two days (well, about 28 hours) afterwards and was drowsy with a TERRIBLE, GODAWFUL headache for the entire next week, which I pretty much spent in bed.

  21. WTF? by SamMichaels · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What does this have to do with gaming? If I sat infront of a TV, computer, or alone counting bumps in paint for 86 hours straight, the same thing would happen to me.

    Another lame attempt to take a stab at videogames and how EVIL they are...

  22. Lesson for Slashdotters by MisterSquid · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's a hard lesson to learn, but that's what happens when you don't take enough bathroom breaks while gaming.

    I mean, what a way to "go" . . .

    (Was it number 1 or number 2?)

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  23. Re:Game? by mrleemrlee · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I remember pulling all-nighters with Civilization, but usually my eyes stopped working right about noon the next day, and my hands would start rebelling, so I'd stop. I never forgot to eat, though.


    Maybe I was just a wuss.


    I can't imagine a game more addictive than that one was, always asking you to do the NEXT THING, then do this, your city has completed a temple, what would you like to do now? There was never a natural stopping point, so you just kept going, to see what you would build or discover on the next turn, or which nation's ass you would have to kick.


    I had a friend who had no computer that would come over to our dorm room and start playing in the afternoon. We'd pretty much just ignore him or hang out with him, and then I'd have to kick him out when the sun came up the next morning. I was too nice a guy back then.

  24. Game Over by vvenka1 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Gives a different meaning to the phrase "Game Over"

  25. Was he playing Gauntlet? by flogger · · Score: 5, Funny

    Young Korean needs food...badly.

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  26. You don't say.... by Crocuta · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The capacity for human ignorance never fails to amuse me.

    Kids, this is what happens when you have a society that lets people become so self-centered that the thought of actually being a responsible productive resident is considered a joke. And here I thought only the US was so encumbered. Apparently we're contagious.

    I don't know what the legal system is like in South Korea, but if it's anything like here, the dude's family will probably bring a lawsuit against the gaming room, the game manufacturer, the government, and anyone else they can bilk money out of because they raised a kid with no self control who grew into a man with no self control. After all, it's already happened here.

    This whole thing reminds me of the classic experiment by Olds and Milner in which they wired tiny electrodes into the limbic system of rats. The rats could give themselves a jolt of electricity by pressing a little lever. The stimulation of the limbic system was so pleasurable that some rats would press the bar thousands of times an hour for up to 20 hours at a time until they collapsed from exhaustion. When the rats recovered, they'd go right back to pressing the bar. I have a feeling that if we could do that for people, we'd find that some (like this mental midget in South Korea) would push the bar until their heads exploded.

    Really people, take a break from /., turn off the computer, and get some sun, will ya? ;-) It's just not worth dying on the crapper in some internet cafe.

    Crocuta

  27. Re:REDRUM!! by DoomedPhil · · Score: 5, Funny

    I guess I'm old, but I'd check to see if the bathroom light was out and interview a grue or two...

  28. Now he's living in a WarCraft III Game by Kalak · · Score: 5, Funny

    He's probably either:
    1.riding on the meat-wagon
    or
    2.has been resurrected by the Necromancer.

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  29. Re:Oh no by Kowh · · Score: 5, Funny

    If you have an Athlon, at least you won't have to worry about freezing to death.

  30. Wow. by The+Innocent+Dot · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Browsing at threshold +3, 37 comments into the discussion so far, and... I can't spot a single sympathetic comment. Most of us are all laughing at this guy's death in some kind of cynical Darwinistic smugness.

    The games probably aren't killing anyone, but they've sure done a good job of de-sensitizing a few people...

  31. Finally! by __dtrance · · Score: 5, Funny

    Finally, proof that I'm not as addicted to the computer as my wife claims!

    Thank's Slashdot!

  32. Man you moderators are SICK by AgentTim3 · · Score: 5, Funny
    *when the doctor had to manually extract the feces from his colon.

    HOW IN THE HELL?!?! does that get modded Interesting?!

    What, are you curious about the precise methodology of feces extraction that was used?
    How many of you would have clicked through if there had been a link "Would you like to know more?"

    Sickos.

  33. Re:A Korean named Kim by nick_davison · · Score: 5, Funny
    A Korean man named Kim...that certainly narrows it down!


    Well, the odds are one smaller, now.

  34. Re:yeah great journalism here by Destoo · · Score: 5, Funny

    > why exactly was he sitting in one place for 86 hours again?

    It's called Camping.

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  35. Sleep Deprivation is VERY bad for you. by alchemist68 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Dude, do you have any idea the brain damage you inflicted on yourself? Sleep deprivation is very bad for you. Go to a Medical College Library and look up a book called "Principles of Sleep Medicine, Vol.1 & Vol.2". What you can read in there will scare the shit out of you so much that you'll go to bed every night for the rest of life consistently on time if you don't want to be either dead at 50 or drooling and smiling at a wall when you're 65. Sleep deprivation is very VERY bad for you.

    Why?

    Sleep not only controls our circadian rhythms, but also apetite control, immune system function, and cognitive performance. I think you can see where this is going.

  36. Re:Heart attack (sheer speculation on my part) by DjMd · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Until recently (barring drug overdose...) 26 year olds did not have heart attacks

    Two things first, why would you rule out drug overdose? 86 straight gameplaying? Can you say stimulants? I would almost bet on that being positive. And Stimulants can cause strokes, sudden arthymias, and heart attacks...

    And I wouldn't rush to heart attack as cause of death, a Pulmonary embolis can kill suddenly and anyone can get one from sitting/not moving for long times. Rhabodmyolysis can cause kidney failure, and in extreme cases shock I think...
    He could died of lots of things, almost no actually caused by video games...

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  37. I wonder if a new Windows virus did it. by Zapdos · · Score: 5, Funny

    I wonder how long until the Weekly World News carries this story. "Man catches Computer Virus and Dies"

  38. What has our professional scolds so worried by Zhe+Mappel · · Score: 5, Interesting
    From the Times piece by Howard French:

    Critics say the burgeoning industry is creating millions of zombified addicts who are turning on and tuning into computer games, and dropping out of school and traditional group activities, becoming uncommunicative and even violent because of the electronic games they play.

    Tsk tsk. Unlike TV, of course, which promotes intimacy, critical thinking, and feelings of peace and contentedness.

    It's not hard to see what has the cultural police so alarmed: at last, a form of electronic engagement even more powerful in its spell than TV has arrived to offer young people a reality of their own shaping. And while it's hardly arguable that playing Counterstrike all day is better for you than sitting in front of a TV, there is a key difference.

    Counterstrike -- or almost any online game -- can't really be used to indoctrinate. Not yet, anyway (although you might argue that running around with guns killing others for round after round is a type of indoctrination, the fact is that it's largely devoid of political context, and experientially it's all for self-aggrandizement, anyway; however, cf. the US Army's recent slippery entry into this market as the progenitor of the politicization of the FPS game).

    The main problem is that you can't use Dan Blather or Brit Spume to convey the wishes of the oligarchy just when the kids have been left perfectly mollified by hours of braindead sitcoms. Cocooned digitally with only pixels and urges to guide them, they're neither being told how to think or what to buy. Online gaming is too much beyond the control of our masters.

    That's intolerable to a nation that regards workaholism as the ideal state of being. It also offends our puritan traditions; next to serving your boss, only God is supposed to suck up so much of your devotion. Watch for more efforts at social control coming from such kissing cousins as Joe Lieberman and Jerry Falwell in the near future. The first step will be to apply the social definitions of addiction, whereafter, as long as the present administration is in office, you may see a faith-based solution offered for your Quake jones...

  39. Re:In other news... by elmegil · · Score: 5, Funny
    To all you liberals, grow up and start taking responsibility for your life, and make others take responsibility for theirs.

    As opposed to the conservatives who just want to lock you up for any mistake unless you're the governor's daughter?

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  40. Re:In other news... by danox · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Too much love can be stifling. Too much happinines can make you ungaurded and easy to hurt. too much clean air can lead to hyperventilation. too much good food can lead to obesity. too much good music can lead to deafness.

    moral to the story: any positive can become a negative if you try hard enough.

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  41. Re:My wife says I'm the worst in the world... by Washizu · · Score: 5, Funny

    My wife says I'm the worst in the world... and now I can prove her wrong.

    Actually, now you are.

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  42. "Game over" or "The End" by kofox · · Score: 5, Funny

    Personally i hate games in which you completely defeat them and you get a nice big dick in the ass "Game over". That is what happens when you die from not being good enough at the game. "The end" is a reward from mastering the game and not being able to go any farther, hence "the end". Not to say this person reached the end of the game, and not to say he didn't deserve a "game over", but i am venting my frustrations with such games such as final fight for snes, or super smash brothers

  43. Re:This is quite sad actually by Guppy06 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "The guy was unemployed, and likely depressed, and he spent the last 86 hours of his life playing a pointless game, that he coudn't escape from."

    That he consciously chose not to escape from. When people don't leave their homes, 99+ times out of 100 the reason is that they didn't feel like leaving, not because they were physically locked in.

    "Think about what his friends and family must feel like right now."

    Obviously not a whole heck of a lot if they allowed this to happen to begin with.

    "I'll probably be modded down as a troll or something, but I don't think death is a joking matter."

    There are schools of thought that suggest that perhaps you don't have a sufficiently developed sense of humor.

    I'm probably shooting myself in the foot for bringing this up but I think Heinlein had a point in Stranger in a Strange Land: All humor revolves around the misfortunes of others. If anything laughing at something can be described as a human coping mechanism. In a world increasingly hostile to those of us who partake in electronic gaming, everybody here now has an example they can point to and say "At least I'm not this guy!"

    "If someone you knew died, even in a pathetic manner like that, you would not be joking about it. "

    If one of my friends died in such a manner I'd be laughing if for no other reason than I know my friend would be laughing at themselves for dying that way.

    "I think all the jokes here are completly tasteless."

    But jokes about hypothetical deaths are alright? Or what about jokes about people getting genuinely angry at each other? What about a particular person's sexual tastes? Or how about the way you mock something hundreds of people have been working on for dozens of years? Where do you get the moral high ground to decide for everybody else what is "tasteless" and what isn't?

    "And I do think the games are _partly_ to blame. (Note that I said partly, not completly.)"

    No, not even. Nobody can say that until there is solid scientific proof demonstrating a link. But in several decades of research on the subject, nobody has yet to publish "games=death" without somebody else soundly refuting it. These aren't cigarettes we're talking about here.

    If there's anybody else beside the gamer that bears any of the responsiblity for this, it is the people directly around him and ignored the way he collapsed unconscious several hours before. Especially the owners of the property.

    "Some games are very addictive,"

    Some people are more susceptible to addictions to just about anything than other people. And until someone can solidly publish "games=addicting," I cannot and will not hold the games responsible for flaws in the gamer's personality and psyche.

    "I've had my school mark drop because I've wasted my time on pointless games."

    Thanks for demonstrating my "increasingly hostile" comment above. We're supposed to believe that you'd have done much better if it weren't for the games? Do you know for a fact (or can you at least say with a straight face) that you'd have done better in school if there were no games in your life? Why are we to believe that you wouldn't have found some other external vent? You're one of those people that wants to sue gun companies over murder rates, aren't you?

    I've tried it both ways: School with and without games. Guess what: Without games, I just ended up finding another vent anyway (and they're called "internet chat rooms"). The problem wasn't Nintendo's, it was mine and my inability to cope with the world around me without a crutch.

    And on the other hand games have actually helped me find better ways to cope. I wouldn't have all the friends I have now if it weren't for those C&C Red Alert and StarCraft LAN parties.

  44. Re:In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Gamers have no political allies. What should we do about it, you ask? Well, I'd like to welcome you to:

    The LAN Party

    We're a nationwide political party with growing influences around the globe, and our main focus is on the protection of the rights of gamers in America.

    Our motto is:

    Try us
    Realize our goal
    Open your mind
    Level the playing field
    Lead on to victory!

    If you are intersted in the LAN Party affiliations, please contact us at lanpolitics@lannational.com

  45. I'm not quite dead yet! by bluhatter · · Score: 5, Funny

    86 hours at the computer? That's nothing! I used to watch windows defrag!

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  46. Police wonder.. by MoriarGryphon · · Score: 5, Funny

    Police later searched for the closest respawn point in hopes of getting more answers to no avail.

  47. Re:In other news... by IdahoEv · · Score: 5, Insightful

    To all you liberals, grow up and start taking responsibility for your life, and make others take responsibility for theirs.

    Self-responsibility is not a liberal vs. conservative issue; it is better characterized as an authoritarian vs. libertarian issue.

    Liberals with an authoritarian bent would have the government outlaw "dangerous" things like offensive/hateful/politically incorrect language, games that "promote" racism, etc. Conservatives with an authoritarian bent would outlaw "dangerous" things like homosexuality, games that "promote" immorality or drug use, violence and sexuality on television, etc.

    OTOH, someone with libertarian tendencies, whether they were otherwise conservative or liberal, would prefer the government stay out of people's lives. I.E., a libertarian believes people should take responsibility for themselves. They wouldn't outlaw "unsafe" games.

    You bring up drugs, GHB in particular, and complain that the government prohibits "safer replacements for alcohol and antidepressants". Ignoring for the moment any debate over the merits of that particular drug, those who would prefer legalized drugs of any sort are strongly libertarian. Many are liberal, as well.

    Those who "ask the government to protect them from themselves" aren't "liberal". They're authoritarian, and include just as many conservatives as liberals.

    I'm actually quite surprised to see you blaming the outlawing of GHB on liberals- the most vocal proponents of harsh drug laws, generally, are conservative authoritarians.

    You, it seems, do not really know who your enemies are. I consider myself quite liberal, but I agree with you that people should take more responsibility for themselves.

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  48. 86 hours playing games? by chegosaurus · · Score: 5, Funny

    He needs to get a life. Oh, err... sorry...