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GameToo Much...... And Die!
A 24-year-old South Korean man died after playing computer games nonstop for 86 hours, police said yesterday. The jobless man, identified by police only by his last name Kim, was found dead at an Internet cafe in Kwangju, 260 kilometres southwest of Seoul, they said.
Quoting witnesses, police detective Oh Myong-sik in Kwangju said the man had been virtually glued to the computer since late last Friday and had no decent sleep and meals. The man collapsed in front of the counter early yesterday but soon regained consciousness. He then went to the toilet where he later was found dead, the police officer said. Initial investigation ruled out the possibility of murder, police said. An autopsy was planned.
Source Article can be found in The Sydney Morning Herald
In related gaming news: sam_handelman writes "In an article on the front page of the online edition, (free reg required) the new york times takes a rather negative look at the rise of broadband gaming in South Korea. The author, Howard W French, is a Times staff writer, with a background in staggering human tragedy, which may help to explain why he thinks my hobby is an epidemic. There was a wired article about Korean broadband (summary: they have lots), which we already discussed."
A man recently died after drinking 15 gallons of beer.
Too much of anything is never good... don't people ever learn? First we had that guy who committed suicide after he played way too much EverQuest and spiraled into depression, and now this.
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Geez, dude needed to work on his stamina...
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I just want to know what game he was playing... Maybe another EverQuest victim?
A 24-year-old South Korean man died after playing computer games nonstop for 86 hours
Well, so much for that week long LAN party idea...
-Tolerate my intolerance
Thats the geek way of dieing with your boots on.
In Republican America phones tap you.
With the winter coming, and only me and quake 3 at home I might be next.
Oh well, worse ways to go.
Medevo
He then went to the toilet where he later was found dead
why wasn't this story called "Go to the toilet... and die!?"
If you mod me down the terrorists will have won
If the guy puts in a quarter quick enough, he may be able to resume where he left Earth...
...I mean off. :-)
Karma: Excellent Birds (mostly as a result of listening to Laurie Anderson)
Unless he was playing Super Mario Bros. 1, and got stuck in minus world. (Yea, I bet nobody remembers that)
free ipod? yeah.
Thank you, Google News!
Hmmm... I don't know about that. Suspects include: (but not limited to) Orcs, Night Elfs, Zerglings, Hydras...
He was fine when he was playing games. Obviously it was going to the crapper that killed him!
It must have been the games that did it!
Force anyone to sit in one place for 86 hours without sleep, food, or water, and I'm sure at least SOME of them would die.
But I'm sure it was the GAMES that killed him.
GoatPigSheep, the 3 most important food groups
Now they can't blame video games for increasing violent emotions and actions. How are you going to be violent to someone if you can't pull yourself away from the computer long enough to eat.
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I'll
"John Romero Is Going To Make You Kick the Bucket"
. . . pours a bit of Red Bull on the side walk in memory of his homie. I hope I go down in glory like dat.
CEE5210S The signal SIGHUP was received.
Journalism?! This is Slashdot!!
Was it the first time in 86 hours that he had used the restroom? That would kill anyone.
He played for 86 hours, as in the X-86 architecture. So what's next? The new Apple Ad?
It went like, beep beep beep, and then I died
.noitacidem deen uoy siht daer nac uoy fI
now he's in heaven shouting "OMFG that was such bullshit!"
Wouldn't it be funny if he was trying to beat Doom II? Or some other old game that everybody's beaten? And especially if he didn't make it past the first level or didn't know how to switch guns or something.
Well, I guess it would be more tragic than funny, but due to the fact that it would be so darwinically sad, that it might get a chuckle or two.
You like that word "darwinically"? I just made it up, hehe.
THERE IS NO DATA. THERE IS O
It'd be such a waste if he didn't. All that effort for nothing...
That video games are a bad habit and can kill you!
Wait, no, it's just proof that being a dumbass can kill you. Never mind, carry on.
SIGFEH
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Anyone ever died from 86 straight hours reading Slashdot?
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IANA Doctor, but although it's primarily an air travel thing, isn't it the case that sitting anywhere for too long can cause blood clots to form in the legs?
Said clots may detach and make their way to the lungs (causing pulmonary embolus) or brain (causing a stroke).
Sounds to me that this dude just suffered an extreme attack of stupidity. If you're gonna LAN for a week (or take a long flight) then at least get off your arse and walk around every few hours.
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when heroes of might and magic 4 came out, 6 of us sat up for longer than that doing a 3v3 hot seat, and we never won!! (hot seat heroes games, on extra large maps can take *days*)
--fetch daddy's blue fright wig, i must be handsome when i release my rage
This is why they need computers in the Bathrooms! geese!
But then, if he was a true gamer, he obviously died from "natural causes"
I'm not sure how the The Sydney Morning Herald would like it if they knew their story was pasted word for word on the front page of a major (?news)site with no acknowledgement given other than a link at the bottom of the text which doesn't suggest the story was copied from there. It's not that hard to put some quotes or throw it in italics like you do for a submission and say
The Sydney Moring Herald just ran a story which included "... "
I just hope they don't take the
Copyright © 2002. The Sydney Morning Herald. at the bottom too seriously
I stole this Sig
Wasn't this a hoax? I've seen this many times before and it's usually involving people that are Asian. I do believe it's a hoax.
Lack of sleep doesn't do it, nor mass amounts of monitor radiation. He was probably overdosed on some drug. He probably died like Elvis - a pH imbalance getting hightened by his duties in the bathroom.
Besides, if this could happen to just anybody, EverQuest would have far fewer players...
Pereant, inquit, qui ante nos nostra dixerunt.
"Confound those who have said our remarks before us."
I know from my MUDding experiences that it's not uncommon for folks into games to stay up for more than a few days at a time with nothing but caffiene. In college I use to regularly stay awake for 48 hours straight MUDding.
I also know quite a few people who are heavily into methamphetamines that stay up for over a week at a time. I know quite a few folks who brag about having stayed awak for 9 days straight and lived to tell about it.
The best part about having been awake for more than 3 days isn't necesarily the game you're playing, it's the delusious and hallucinations you get. >3 days awake is better than most hits of LSD you get these days.
Duris MUD - The best pkill MUD. Ever.
That many of the internet cafe's there are known for spikeing the water and whatnot. Amphetamine spikeing is common to keep customers in the stores longer and whatnot. There have been several deaths related to this over the last few years.
Also a goverment crackdown has been done once, as you can see...it hasn't made much of a diffrence.
Om, nomnomnom...
W00t! Computer games as an instrument of natural selection, you've gotta love it. And you thought we were doomed as a species....
Nope, it was not intentional. A real bug. Here's a ton of info on it.E2 has the scoop.
Last year someone died after playing too much Counter-Strike.
Here's the article.
Confucious say gamer man who die flushing one down need 1-up
slashdot: where everyone yells sarcastic metaphors to themselves to understand the issue
Depressed and alone on Christmas break during college, I went on a Counter-Strike spree some day in the age of Beta5 that lasted 97 hours straight, only taking breaks to quit drinking coffee and urinate.
Tiredness did not matter -- everything was a copy of a copy, and I was some sort of killing machine, though I went from top of the list to somewhere in the middle after the first day. After two days, I was screwed up beyond recognition and was hallucinating, thinking that flowers were growing in de_nuke and that Beavis and Butthead were saying "Go Go Go!."
After the third day, my head and eyes hurt terribly, I had pissed myself and didn't notice for an hour as my legs were totally numb, and everything was a nightmare. I was so wacked out I couldn't do anything but shoot at things that weren't there...... but my obsession could not end as I sat alone in my dorm room.
I passed out, collapsed on the floor, and slept for two days (well, about 28 hours) afterwards and was drowsy with a TERRIBLE, GODAWFUL headache for the entire next week, which I pretty much spent in bed.
... I think I know him!
...Also, I didn't know Buggalo could fly.
What does this have to do with gaming? If I sat infront of a TV, computer, or alone counting bumps in paint for 86 hours straight, the same thing would happen to me.
Another lame attempt to take a stab at videogames and how EVIL they are...
It's a hard lesson to learn, but that's what happens when you don't take enough bathroom breaks while gaming.
I mean, what a way to "go" . . .
(Was it number 1 or number 2?)
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He died? Really?
YES!!!! I won!!!
He owes me 20 dolla.....hnhuigfuhvwieuh
Gives a different meaning to the phrase "Game Over"
Young Korean needs food...badly.
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"First things first -- but not necessarily in that order"
-- The Doctor, "Doctor
The capacity for human ignorance never fails to amuse me.
/., turn off the computer, and get some sun, will ya? ;-)
It's just not worth dying on the crapper in some internet cafe.
Kids, this is what happens when you have a society that lets people become so self-centered that the thought of actually being a responsible productive resident is considered a joke. And here I thought only the US was so encumbered. Apparently we're contagious.
I don't know what the legal system is like in South Korea, but if it's anything like here, the dude's family will probably bring a lawsuit against the gaming room, the game manufacturer, the government, and anyone else they can bilk money out of because they raised a kid with no self control who grew into a man with no self control. After all, it's already happened here.
This whole thing reminds me of the classic experiment by Olds and Milner in which they wired tiny electrodes into the limbic system of rats. The rats could give themselves a jolt of electricity by pressing a little lever. The stimulation of the limbic system was so pleasurable that some rats would press the bar thousands of times an hour for up to 20 hours at a time until they collapsed from exhaustion. When the rats recovered, they'd go right back to pressing the bar. I have a feeling that if we could do that for people, we'd find that some (like this mental midget in South Korea) would push the bar until their heads exploded.
Really people, take a break from
Crocuta
I want in!
Empire earth's 13 hour marathon was the longest I've gone non-stop I think.
The man who trades freedom for security does not deserve nor will he ever receive either. - Benjamin Franklin
Good thing we Americans are made of stronger stuff.
The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions that I wish it to be always kept alive
I think I saw a similar story with a Korean here some months ago. Are you sure this is not an urban legend?
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Men with no respect for life must never be allowed to control the ultimate instruments of death.
GW Bu
He's probably either:
1.riding on the meat-wagon
or
2.has been resurrected by the Necromancer.
I am, and always will be, an idiot. Karma: Coma (mostly effected by
He was sitting at a browser endlessly refreshing slashdot!
a ^= b; b ^= a; a ^= b;
It is all these darn new games. You see, they keep requiring faster and faster hardware to run them but not everyone can keep up. Take this internet cafe, I bet it was a machine that was at 2 years old.
I doubt that he died playing anything, I think he was still waiting for it load up past the introduce cinematic, or he was trying to see some booty on a Flash web site, the load times on something like that would kill anybody.
...this is horrible. Why the hell didn't someone stop him?
...that's probably it. Your heart can just stop during manic episodes due to extreme physical/mental stress.
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I'm bipolar myself, and wasn't medicated at the time, so that's probably why I played cstrike for 97 hours, which is posted below:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=41928&thresho
The real story here is not how this man died, but where he died. This man was in an internet cafe, surrounded by other people.
People die like this more often than we realize. We don't notice because they they die as shut-ins at home. Most of them are obsessive compulsive or mentally ill, and usually takes a while before their bodies are even discovered.
This man, however, had been playing computer games in a busy public place, nonstop for 86 hours. If any of the staff or fellow users noticed, none of them saw fit to intervene. Since he was paying to use the computer, the staff must have had some idea how long he had been there. Also, I imagine he must have looked quite haggard and ill before he finally died.
The police have ruled out murder, but I hope that they investigate the staff for negligence. Mr. Kim was ultimately the victim of his own actions. However, the staff had a basic responsibility to ensure his health and safety while he was on using their service on their premises, just as a bartender might be liable if he continue to serve an extremely intoxicated customer who later died of alcohol poisoning.
The fact that no-one noticed or cared for four straight days is appalling. Such a pathetic and easily preventable death in a public place reflects poorly on South Korean society, both in and anywhere else that it occurs.
Failsafe against 86 hour fatal gaming runs is built into Windows, its called BSODs.
Microsoft intentionally put them in there to make you go get a snack while rebooting, or conversely take a nap.
This fellow was clearly using Mac OSX or Linux.
You know, I have heard other stories similiar to this recently...sometimes there is a specific name of the game, but they always seem to be "identified only by their first/last name", and its always around the 80 hour mark. Did the Sydney Morning Herald report a growing urban myth, or is there anything to substantiate this?
Somehow I don't think his parents are going to be using a computer to read Slashdot anytime soon...
That's a shame...
Hey, QIII V1.32 just hit the servers yesterday! Let the killing begin!
Uh, I mean fragging.
Browsing at threshold +3, 37 comments into the discussion so far, and... I can't spot a single sympathetic comment. Most of us are all laughing at this guy's death in some kind of cynical Darwinistic smugness.
The games probably aren't killing anyone, but they've sure done a good job of de-sensitizing a few people...
A dead gamer in the bathroom, oh my!!
Quoting witnesses, police detective Oh Myong-sik in Kwangju said the man had been virtually glued to the computer since late last Friday and had no decent sleep and meals.
All he needed was a mountain dew IV drip and he would have been fine.
.cig - what you do after winning a good flame war
The jobless man, identified by police only by his last name Kim
A Korean man named Kim...that certainly narrows it down!
I don't see why everyone is acting like this is a big joke or something. The guy was unemployed, and likely depressed, and he spent the last 86 hours of his life playing a pointless game, that he coudn't escape from. This isn't funny, it's very sad. That's his 24 year life gone, just like that. You don't know what he did, or who he was. Think about what his friends and family must feel like right now.
I'll probably be modded down as a troll or something, but I don't think death is a joking matter. If someone you knew died, even in a pathetic manner like that, you would not be joking about it. I think all the jokes here are completly tasteless.
And I do think the games are _partly_ to blame. (Note that I said partly, not completly.) Some games are very addictive, and can trap people in for hours. I've had my school mark drop because I've wasted my time on pointless games.
Just my thoughts.
Finally, proof that I'm not as addicted to the computer as my wife claims!
Thank's Slashdot!
This was basically a suicide. He chose an odd way to do it, but that's probably all it was.
It's unlikely that he got "hooked" or didn't know any better.
Man, can you say "Darwin Award"?
If anyone deserves it it's this guy!
"Entropy is the bad-guy, and he is everywhere"
Could it be he was trying to impose some Guinnes record?
Anyone knows if there is such record out there?
errera hunamum ets
HOW IN THE HELL?!?! does that get modded Interesting?!
What, are you curious about the precise methodology of feces extraction that was used?
How many of you would have clicked through if there had been a link "Would you like to know more?"
Sickos.
If he died on the toilet it was probably a heart attack - if you have a weak heart, constapation can kill you; stimulant drugs are also a possibility.
Sudden death syndrome maybe, although I don't think they ever diagnose that it anyone unhealthy/obese, if he was, though there is a teat for it.
Until recently (barring drug overdose, genetic or developmental abnormalities) 26 year olds did not have heart attacks. So, looking into my crystal ball, this will be used as ammunition for the argument that videogames reduce your level of physical activity, and are somehow responsible for the recent rise in cardiovascular disease among the very young - I can't find the ref. on google, can anyone else?
If you want to avoid having heart attacks:
1) Get exercise. This is NOT the same as don't game, and I myself utterly reject the notion that videogames are somehow responsible for droping levels of physical activity.
2) Try not to be angry all the time. I know this can be difficult if you are a member of an oppressed minority group or work in tech support. Depression and overuse of simulants = also bad.
The good and new comes from no quarter where it is looked for, and is always something different from what is expected.
Yes but, depending on the game, he may have to wait for everyone else to die. That could take some time.
RMN
~~~
Game over man!
Life is too short to proofread.
site says otherwise.
Also mentions how to get to -2. I read about the minus world back in 1987 or so in Nintendo Power (or was it the Nintendo Fan Club at that time?) at a friend's house, and was only able to make it to Minus world once. All subsequent attempts failed. Maybe I'll try again with tuxnes or nestra.
On a side note, what's people's favorite linux NES emulator?
make world, not war
if he was gaming for 86 hours straight without a break he couldnt have been running a windows game then, thats for sure ...
How could any establishment allow someone to do this to themselves? Shouldn't someone have reported what his person was doing so they could get him help? I just don't understand how anyone could watch as someone deteriorates over a period of several days until they die.
just another 3 million experience points and I'll be level...
The best education consists in immunizing people against systematic attempts at education. - Paul Feyerabend
Um, last time i checked, fruits make you go. What kind of fruit are you eating? (ketchup on fries doesn't count)
Dude, do you have any idea the brain damage you inflicted on yourself? Sleep deprivation is very bad for you. Go to a Medical College Library and look up a book called "Principles of Sleep Medicine, Vol.1 & Vol.2". What you can read in there will scare the shit out of you so much that you'll go to bed every night for the rest of life consistently on time if you don't want to be either dead at 50 or drooling and smiling at a wall when you're 65. Sleep deprivation is very VERY bad for you.
Why?
Sleep not only controls our circadian rhythms, but also apetite control, immune system function, and cognitive performance. I think you can see where this is going.
China regularly releases news reports like this to try to scare their population into getting off the internet, where they have better access to speech-related items
This article is probably another one of those B.S. articles.
Death happens. Get over it. No one tied him to the computer. :)
Jokes are funny. They lighten our mood and help us deal with the lousier shit in life.
If everytime something lousy happend I couldn't joke about it, life would be even more lousy.
I've had my grades affected by lots of things. I accept that and take responsibility for doing those things. If I forgot about all my classes and just played games all day, I would fail out of school. I wouldn't be able to work as an engineer, but then I wouldn't be a resposible enough person to make important decisions anyway.
I don't really consider the way he died "pathetic". I think it's kinda funny and also kinda cool. It sure would beat dying of hunger or a belly wound.
Hey, at least he died doing something he loved
Joking about death doesn't mean you don't give a shit whether people live or die. Being unable to handle jokes about death, suggests that they and therefore death itself makes you uncomfortable. Death is coming for you. There's nothing you can do to stop it. If you think that's sad, ok. Just don't try and act like that puts you on some sort of moral highground. People deal with death in different ways.
I'm not saying that death is great, just that people comfortable/uncomforable enough with the idea to joke about it, aren't necessarily uncaring, and that perhaps every death isn't tragic.
Life is too short to proofread.
I wonder how long until the Weekly World News carries this story. "Man catches Computer Virus and Dies"
Get a free ipod.
Game Awards - Warcraft 3
- Best CG Cinematics (tie) - Gamespy's Best of E3 2002 Awards
- Editor's Choice (10 out of 10 rating) - Game Chronicles
- First game to actually kill somebody
Hey! Who put that last one in there!...oOOo..'(_)'..oOOo...
no,no you see most people seem to be missing the point .
you see he quit the game and then died
It's really quite simple quitting ( not playing ) is what killed him
this is excellent news for sony and microsoft , once your hooked it's play or die .
Critics say the burgeoning industry is creating millions of zombified addicts who are turning on and tuning into computer games, and dropping out of school and traditional group activities, becoming uncommunicative and even violent because of the electronic games they play.
Tsk tsk. Unlike TV, of course, which promotes intimacy, critical thinking, and feelings of peace and contentedness.
It's not hard to see what has the cultural police so alarmed: at last, a form of electronic engagement even more powerful in its spell than TV has arrived to offer young people a reality of their own shaping. And while it's hardly arguable that playing Counterstrike all day is better for you than sitting in front of a TV, there is a key difference.
Counterstrike -- or almost any online game -- can't really be used to indoctrinate. Not yet, anyway (although you might argue that running around with guns killing others for round after round is a type of indoctrination, the fact is that it's largely devoid of political context, and experientially it's all for self-aggrandizement, anyway; however, cf. the US Army's recent slippery entry into this market as the progenitor of the politicization of the FPS game).
The main problem is that you can't use Dan Blather or Brit Spume to convey the wishes of the oligarchy just when the kids have been left perfectly mollified by hours of braindead sitcoms. Cocooned digitally with only pixels and urges to guide them, they're neither being told how to think or what to buy. Online gaming is too much beyond the control of our masters.
That's intolerable to a nation that regards workaholism as the ideal state of being. It also offends our puritan traditions; next to serving your boss, only God is supposed to suck up so much of your devotion. Watch for more efforts at social control coming from such kissing cousins as Joe Lieberman and Jerry Falwell in the near future. The first step will be to apply the social definitions of addiction, whereafter, as long as the present administration is in office, you may see a faith-based solution offered for your Quake jones...
he had spent those 96 hours doing "one-handed typing"; using the Internet as it was intended to used as a vehicle for healthful physical activity and not frozen in some endless game.
If you wait long enough, almost any event "B" will follow almost any event "A" in close succession. That doesn't mean that "A" caused "B".
..."He's still playing the game.".....
Game: Player 'Donald J Trump' now has AI skill level 'experimental'.
Ive spent 3 days straight playinng games, sometimes going days with no food, just drink.
If you use Linux, please help development of Autopac
Personally i hate games in which you completely defeat them and you get a nice big dick in the ass "Game over". That is what happens when you die from not being good enough at the game. "The end" is a reward from mastering the game and not being able to go any farther, hence "the end". Not to say this person reached the end of the game, and not to say he didn't deserve a "game over", but i am venting my frustrations with such games such as final fight for snes, or super smash brothers
Funny how chrisd lets this one through the submission queue right around the same time Wired runs an articleabout him leaving VA to go start up a gaming company.
This is not what I would call a good way to start the publicity.
-transiit
(I'm not really 32 or living with my parents though. I made that part up. I'm actually 19 and I share a 10 room mansion with 20 really cute women.)
Discover a clue
Why is it that the proponents of "one nation under God" are so eager to get rid of "liberty and justice for all"?
OK, i know quality != quantity, but...
news.google has 6 other articles (not including this one of course) with a similar story.
(it's nice to see someone questioning authority though)
THERE IS NO DATA. THERE IS O
everyone knows script kiddies go to hell..
86 hours at the computer? That's nothing! I used to watch windows defrag!
bluHatter
following in Elvis' footsteps
Creationists are a lot like zombies. Slow, but powerful and numerous. And they all want to eat our brains.
Police later searched for the closest respawn point in hopes of getting more answers to no avail.
What, are you curious about the precise methodology of feces extraction that was used?
How many of you would have clicked through if there had been a link "Would you like to know more?"
It's a scissoring motion with the fingers.
Ah, the joy of having a girlfriend that's a nurse. I know all kinds of things about colons should not be known.
Come on now. Some guy choosing to sit in front of a computer until he dies should not be compared to organized murder.
The atrocities committed by both sides in the middle east are truely tragic ongoing events.
See my other post for some enlightenment about this 'nobody has any compassion' thing.
Tragic problems arise when religous types think that because others do not believe as they do they are sub-human, emotionless animals, etc. Look to the tradgedies in the whole Isreal/Palestine conflict for an example.
If you really want to make the most of your life try to understand others. Try to accept that others may view life differently and that those people are not necessarily bad. Try to promote understanding instead of jumping to conlusions and judging people.
For example: If you choose not to do all those things you listed in you post, fine. I don't consider you a lesser human being because of it. If I choose to drink and get laid, I should not be labeled an infidel. People who don't do certain things because they think it makes them a better human being don't usually brag about it. The people who brag are the ones who think not doing these things somehow makes them better than other people.
I'm not trying to accuse you of this specfically, but your statements about abstinance from whatever don't really tie into this discussion. And your assumption that we have no compassion doesn't make you look good either.
Life is too short to proofread.
I was able to do it once. *Once*.
After that I found this game genie code to make it easier. GXNAGY. This will change the warp to world 2 at the end of 1-2 into a warp to the minus world.
I also read that completing the loop 8 times will send you to the final level. But in order to do that I think you'd need to put in the Game genie code to disable the clock as well.
- Give a man a fire and he's warm for a day, but set him on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life.
Geez... One guy out of 6 billion drops dead on the other side of the planet and everybody's talking about it.
If you don't think you can just drop dead at any moment, I got news for you. You may die tomorrow.
Theres a million ways to die, the easiest for young people would probably be asthma or choking or drugs. This article is worthless without an autopsy.
You should know, this is God's way of saying:
U R 0WN3D, D00D!!1!
Mordor...a magical, mythical land where women are more rare than dragons--but where every man would rather find a dragon
Given a long enough time frame, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.
"I'm a leaf on the wind. Watch how I soar."
-Hoban Washburn
I think the most amazing thing about these stories is that people are at these internet cafes for DAYS at a time and noone notices or cares.86 hours is literally half a week.I guess the managers who run these internet cafes will happily let you wallow in your own filth as long as they get paid by the hour.
The only thing that won't kill you if you do it for 86 hours straight is LIVING.
~LoudMusic
No sig for you. YOU GET NO SIG!
While in architecture school I did 70 hours nonstop working in studio on my project, and I haven't suffered any nahhh naaaaahhhh nhaahaha any side effects. I would have done longer if I hadn't finished my project. I know other people who did longer.
I don't doubt that he died after a long bout of not sleeping, but I don't believe that the lack of sleep is what killed him. I'm more inclined to think a heart attack from all the caffine is what did him in.
I'm out of my mind right now, but feel free to leave a message.....
Well, frankly I can sincerly suspect that this guy could have made a suicide session.
:) . This is not a joke, many hailstormers are capable of coming into a half-sleep state while working for days at the computers. But note that this cannot fully replace a real good sleep.
My record at the keyboard is nearly 92 hours non-stop. And this is probably too little a record. And if you take small snaps 2/3 hours a day, you can hold up a week or two (I hold nearly 9 days). But frankly I would not recomend anyone to do this.Because it is damnly stress to your body and mind. The risks are very high and you get out of this with some damage. At least I know that some of these longterm sessions, partially, were the cause for landing in the hospital for spine treatment (but not the main reason, I once broke a disc on it).
However playing games for long is stupid. First because you may get a good dose of "astronauts ilness", for the fact that you run, jump, shoot and keep your body nearly static in a chair. Besides you can get a good dose of headaches caused by osteochondrosis or what this ilness is called. The more you play for long, the best the chances these headaches become chronical. In the end, no pills and no siroups will help you. Only some weeks in the hospital being tortured every day to put your spine back in place.
If you have problems with your hearth, then a few hours is enough to have him reminding to get some rest orelse (good I don't have such problems). People with brain problems (I mean physical, not psychological), should avoid taking more than a few hours at the screen, or they can call for their coffin at once.I had one friend that unfortunately passed out because he stressed himself too much and his brain ilness killed him working at night. He was only 33 btw.
However if you are healthy and you really have a serious need for a hailstorm session, then take my advice. Eat well, very well and regularly, and don't delay that trip to the toilet when you get the need. Every hour stand up and walk a little. Every disconfort should be take into account and one should try to care for it. Sit in a big chair, the more ergonomic the best. From time to time try to make some gyms to avoid stress. Try to work in the dark, at least the ceiling lights will be a mess in the third day. The monitor brightness should be smooth to avoid eye stressing. Every time the workload goes down, try to take a snap or, if you have some practice on it, go into "suspend" mode
Once you get out of a hailstorm session, go eat some BIG meal, take a walk and only a few hours later go to sleep. And forget about hailstorms for a few days...
If you regularly play with your health 24-48 hours at the screen then take into account that you can hold up for a few monthes. Then you should take a brake if you don't wanna get old at 35...
It's about time the gov't gets hip to the perfect army it has in its own borders. In the USA, millions train everyday on various systems in the electronic art of FPS. It IS an art, it IS a skill and most importantly it IS addictive. Today's youth drafted would fair poorly on an actuall battleground, but controlling robots through various familiar and popular games as their GUI and they would be unstoppable. Imagine the teamwork of CTF Quake or Counterstike fully realized on a battlefield while the controllers sit back comfortably smoking bongs, drinking soda and ordering pizza.
Isn't this a symptom of bipolar disorder. I have cycles like that, though not so often. I'll stay awake for 2 or 3 days and feel great, then suddenly want to sleep for like 36 hours or something... It's not that much fun, actually...
Code, Hardware, stuff like that.
He needs to get a life. Oh, err... sorry...
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I have the solution to this problem.
Onlines games should only let you login and be online for at most 16 hours a day. This would force you to snap out of it, and get something to eat and some sleep. This would also be pretty easy to implement, and would have prevented this tragedy.
It seems to be getting worse, too. My Ph.D. not infrequently generates an attitude of "Oh, so you're not a real doctor, then?" I blame it all on medical TV dramas.
It's not likely a bug... Most bugs don't result in a nice jump to the final level.
While we're taking about Game Eeggs,
Seems like the tricks are too EASY now. Now you stick on a chip, and can do anything... During the Genesis/SNES days, we at least had to learn some keystrokes.
For instance, sticking Sonic The Hedgehog 1 on the Sonic & Knuckles cart, then holding A+B+C then "Start" gives you inifinite (I believe) 3D levels (where you try to capture the emeralds in Sonic 3). That's something that'll literally hook you forever. I know I've played that for hours at a time.
Then there's the extremes of the 8-bit days, where, to get a level-selection screen in Shinobi, you had to wet your finger, and place it on the top-right of the expansion connector... They sure don't make 'em like that anymore!!!
Slashdot gets worse every day... Pipedot: News for nerds, without the corporate slant
I knew a guy that was almost this stupid. He took his student loans from college, didn't pay tuition and didn't go to class...Well, he took his big wad of cash and bought a Playstation and ALL the games on the market for it.
He then went back to his trailer (he lived in a trailer with ratty carpet and wall-to-wall fleas)and hooked up his Playstation. His fiance had left town to visit her family, so he spent the next 72 hours playing playstation games.
Here's the terrible part. His fiance had just got a teeny little kitten. It was barely weened. The guy got to playing games and completely forgot about the kitten. 72 hours later, it was dead in the bathroom behind the toilet from dehydration. He didn't notice for another couple days... when it started smelling like...well...a rotten kitten.
So now, when my son plays video games too much, I tell him the story of the guy that played so many video games, his cat died.
what is it with you people and these halfass sugar-water caffeniated drinks? double-strong black drip coffee is the One True Way, it's got loads more caffeine than sodas/energy drinks, and nothing else of any nutritional value - which lets you tailor your nutritional intake entirely through food.
it's useful - eat complex carbs (bagels, buscuits, whatnot) in the morning to stock up on glycogen, then switch to sugars (junk food, dew) as you get more and more tired and need simpler carbs, maybe a good whack of protein midday (mmm...red meat...) to keep your muscles from self-digesting. of course, it's got so much caffeine in such a small volume of liquid i find it usually ends up dehydrating me, but that's why i keep a big nalge of plain old H20 next to my triple-size mug.
'course if you really wanna hurt, get a 100g bottle of USP sublimed caffeine...bet you didn't know that 2grams at once makes you hallucinate (and vibrate in place, and throw up, a lot...)
Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored. - Aldous Huxley
This is just another case of obsession and poor judgment. The thing about obsessive personalities is that if games weren't there to obsess over, they'd just find something else and likely invent a new way to kick the bucket.
It is a sad thing, however. And not the most comfy way to pass away.
Especially if he didn't beat the game.
Kalen D'arrie
He was trying to get to the end boss in Tetris.
psmylie's dictionary: Godzillion (noun) Any number large enough to destroy Tokyo
You mean to say you actually took something SERIOUSLY that you saw on answersingenesis.com? Sorry, try getting your information about evolution from a source that actually understands evolution. I have yet to find a single creationist who understands the basics of evolutionary science.
Natural selection is one of the methods through which evolution works.
Technoli
http://webster.commnet.edu/grammar/composition/lyi ng-bed.htm
THE DANGER OF LYING IN BED
by Mark Twain
The man in the ticket-office said:
"Have an accident insurance ticket, also?"
"No," I said, after studying the matter over a little. "No, I believe not; I am going to be traveling by rail all day today. However, tomorrow I don't travel. Give me one for tomorrow."
The man looked puzzled. He said:
"But it is for accident insurance, and if you are going to travel by rail--"
"If I am going to travel by rail I sha'n't need it. Lying at home in bed is the thing I am afraid of."
I had been looking into this matter. Last year I traveled twenty thousand miles, almost entirely by rail; the year before, I traveled over twenty-five thousand miles, half by sea and half by rail; and the year before that I traveled in the neighborhood of ten thousand miles, exclusively by rail. I suppose if I put in all the little odd journeys here and there, I may say I have traveled sixty thousand miles during the three years I have mentioned. AND NEVER AN ACCIDENT.
For a good while I said to myself every morning: "Now I have escaped thus far, and so the chances are just that much increased that I shall catch it this time. I will be shrewd, and buy an accident ticket." And to a dead moral certainty I drew a blank, and went to bed that night without a joint started or a bone splintered. I got tired of that sort of daily bother, and fell to buying accident tickets that were good for a month. I said to myself, "A man CAN'T buy thirty blanks in one bundle."
But I was mistaken. There was never a prize in the the lot. I could read of railway accidents every day--the newspaper atmosphere was foggy with them; but somehow they never came my way.
I found I had spent a good deal of money in the accident business, and had nothing to show for it. My suspicions were aroused, and I began to hunt around for somebody that had won in this lottery. I found plenty of people who had invested, but not an individual that had ever had an accident or made a cent. I stopped buying accident tickets and went to ciphering. The result was astounding. THE PERIL LAY NOT IN TRAVELING, BUT IN STAYING AT HOME.
I hunted up statistics, and was amazed to find that after all the glaring newspaper headlines concerning railroad disasters, less than THREE HUNDRED people had really lost their lives by those disasters in the preceding twelve months. The Erie road was set down as the most murderous in the list. It had killed forty-six-- or twenty-six, I do not exactly remember which, but I know the number was double that of any other road. But the fact straightway suggested itself that the Erie was an immensely long road, and did more business than any other line in the country; so the double number of killed ceased to be matter for surprise.
By further figuring, it appeared that between New York and Rochester the Erie ran eight passenger-trains each way every day--16 altogether; and carried a daily average of 6,000 persons. That is about a million in six months--the population of New York City. Well, the Erie kills from 13 to 23 persons of ITS million in six months; and in the same time 13,000 of New York's million die in their beds! My flesh crept, my hair stood on end. "This is appalling!" I said. "The danger isn't in traveling by rail, but in trusting to those deadly beds. I will never sleep in a bed again."
I had figured on considerably less than one-half the length of the Erie road. It was plain that the entire road must transport at least eleven or twelve thousand people every day. There are many short roads running out of Boston that do fully half as much; a great many such roads. There are many roads scattered about the Union that do a prodigious passenger business. Therefore it was fair to presume that an average of 2,500 passengers a day for each road in the country would be almost correct. There are 846 railway lines in our country, and 846 times 2,500 are 2,115,000. So the railways of America move more than two millions of people every day; six hundred and fifty millions of people a year, without counting the Sundays. They do that, too--there is no question about it; though where they get the raw material is clear beyond the jurisdiction of my arithmetic; for I have hunted the census through and through, and I find that there are not that many people in the United States, by a matter of six hundred and ten millions at the very least. They must use some of the same people over again, likely.
San Francisco is one-eighth as populous as New York; there are 60 deaths a week in the former and 500 a week in the latter--if they have luck. That is 3,120 deaths a year in San Francisco, and eight times as many in New York--say about 25,000 or 26,000. The health of the two places is the same. So we will let it stand as a fair presumption that this will hold good all over the country, and that consequently 25,000 out of every million of people we have must die every year. That amounts to one-fortieth of our total population. One million of us, then, die annually. Out of this million ten or twelve thousand are stabbed, shot, drowned, hanged, poisoned, or meet a similarly violent death in some other popular way, such as perishing by kerosene-lamp and hoop-skirt conflagrations, getting buried in coal-mines, falling off house-tops, breaking through church, or lecture-room floors, taking patent medicines, or committing suicide in other forms. The Erie railroad kills 23 to 46; the other 845 railroads kill an average of one-third of a man each; and the rest of that million, amounting in the aggregate to that appalling figure of 987,631 corpses, die naturally in their beds!
You will excuse me from taking any more chances on those beds. The railroads are good enough for me.
And my advice to all people is, Don't stay at home any more than you can help; but when you have GOT to stay at home a while, buy a package of those insurance tickets and sit up nights. You cannot be too cautious.
[One can see now why I answered that ticket-agent in the manner recorded at the top of this sketch.]
The moral of this composition is, that thoughtless people grumble more than is fair about railroad management in the United States. When we consider that every day and night of the year full fourteen thousand railway-trains of various kinds, freighted with life and armed with death, go thundering over the land, the marvel is, NOT that they kill three hundred human beings in a twelvemonth, but that they do not kill three hundred times three hundred!
"Live Free or Die." Don't like it? Then keep out of the USA
People die all the time doing all sorts of things:
reading, baking a peach cobbler, yawning, scrathcing their head.
I think this just goes to show what kind of sh*t journalists "report" nowadays. That goes for you too Slashdot.
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He has two more lives left!
In the day I had a parallel port ZIP Drive hooked up to a 386SX with 6 megs of RAM. The hard drive on the laptop went, so I used the ZIP drive as an external hard drive, booted off floppy and had everything running off the ZIP Drive.
I had Stacker running (Forget the version though) and had the whole thing compressed with maximum compression.
Did I mention that I used all this to Run Windows 3.1, IE 3.0 and Word 2.0?
And one dull, long weekend I watched it chkdsk, scandisk nd run the special Stacker version of Defrag five times on five different ZIP DISK installs.
Why five? Because I had a separate ZIP Disk and boot disk for different purposes.
School Work: DOS, Windows, Word, Telnet software (For connecting to the VAX)
A boot disk for Betrayal at Krondor
A boot disk for Quake (PC Speaker sound, YUM!)
A boot disk for, well, things my kids will never know about.
A boot disk for playing with Linux.
And installs for testing shareware.
I forget what else.
"Live Free or Die." Don't like it? Then keep out of the USA
Exercise can be wonderful stress relief. Even "nonviolent" exercise can blow off lots of stress.
:), just skating around in circles, sometimes pushing myself to the limits of how fast I could go without losing control. Good adrenaline rush, good exercise.
:( I miss skating. (Needless to say, I've gained weight since then. I may take up rollerblading, but the fact that I live on a mountain could be a problem here.)
I think my least stressful/most healthy semester in college was the one when I went ice skating 1-2 times/weekend and sometimes on Wednesdays after lunch too. (I didn't have the time to do so in other semesters, mainly due to changes in the ice rink's public skating schedule - Leading to a nasty positive feedback cycle)
Not hockey (I do use hockey skates, but just to *move*, not to go around and check people into the boards.
As much as one might hate exercise, there is probably SOMETHING out there you'll enjoy. For me, it's ice skating and skiing. (Don't ask me to do anything else - I'll refuse or get bored/frustrated very quickly.)
Unfortunately since I've graduated I'm temporarily back home. There are two skating rinks 10 minutes from my house that used to have evening/weekend public skating. Now, it's only early afternoon on weekdays.
retrorocket.o not found, launch anyway?
Welcome to our society. That is kind of crappy, but honestly, what do you expect? Should I mourn for every death that I hear about? Do you know how many deaths I hear about on a daily basis? Should I feel sorry for this person, when there are thousands of other people dying every single day, for no fault of their own?
This story made the news because it was sensational. Then it is posted to a bunch of online dorks. What the hell do you expect? Black banners on the front page? I don't think games have desensitized me, I think this world has desensitized me - and I don't necessarily think it is a bad thing. If I reacted honestly and openly to every single bad piece of news that I hear, I would be an emotional wreck and wouldn't be able to function on a daily basis.
So this story was not posted, or even created, for sympathy. It was put here because it is sensational, and so people could say "wow". That is all. I don't feel sorry for the guy, he was someone halfway across the world from me, a nearly nameless person who died in an unusual way. So what? If you think that death itself is something that we should mourn, then you are going to be one very sad person your entire life.
My beliefs do not require that you agree with them.
"Warrior needs food, BADLY!"
Relive the BBS Past - One Byte at a Time! www.ssabbs.com
I find red bull to be a nice balance if stimulation. I remember one day I worked from home (new washer and dryer coming in) and I drank a pot and a half of espresso (not necessarily more caffeine than coffee, mind you) and I was jolted! You know, shakes, that wierd, wire-y Jesus! WE're all on speed! feeling...
while my normal morning routine is a nice cuppa joe and a diet MT dew (same caffeine as reg mt dew)- so even though I have a decent caffeine tolerance (I can drink strong coffee at night and go right to bed) too much coffee gets me jacked.
Red bull is a good mix and gets me just jacked enough to be awake, but not so jacked that I get OCD and the shakes.
I'll keep in mind your carb plan...
In the future, I would want to not be isolated from my friends in the Space Station.
The jobless man, identified by police only by his last name Kim [...]
For those of you who have never been to Korea, everybody's last name is Kim. No shit.
Let's see if I understand how the world works lately... If a man cuts his finger off while slicing salami at work, he blames the restaurant. If you smoke three packs a day for 40 years and die of lung cancer, your family blames the tobacco company. If your neighbor crashes into a tree while driving home drunk, he blames the bartender. If your grandchildren are brats without manners, you blame television. If your friend is shot by a deranged madman, you blame the gun manufacturer. And if a crazed person breaks into the cockpit and tries to kill the pilot at 35,000 feet, and the passengers kill him instead, the mother of the deceased blames the airline. I must have lived too long to understand the world as it is anymore. So, if I die while my old, wrinkled butt is parked in front of this computer, I want you to blame Bill Gates...okay? 'Nuff said
-- (Score:i, Imaginary)
The other gamers in the place looted his corpse.
d00der: "Fake ID +5 to fool police? This guy sucks. I already have a Authentic Looking Fake ID +9!"
3l337H4X0R: "Is there a blacksmith close? I need to repair these shoes before I sell them."
MrKim224: "Stop stealing my stuff I'm only unconscious! Wait until I respawn, I'll get you bastards!!"
SYSTEM: No one hears you. You are unconscious.
// harborpirate
// Slashbots off the starboard bow!
This smacks a little too much of something like Snow Crash to me... I wonder if he was staring at some white noise prior to collapsing...
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I bet he was playing DANCE DANCE REVOLUTION.
86 hours of that game would kill anyone.
Just make sure you know when to draw the line, or you could end up having a bad toilet experience too.
www.timcoleman.com is a total waste of your time. Never go there.
I've been warning my friends still hooked on EverCrack and DAOC that they're throwing their lives away... maybe this will convince them.
Rubble
Hmmmm, this is more difficult than I thought, I'll try again
Kid: Mommy, why did binLaden destroy twin towers?
Mom: He made a giant firefighter kebab to feed us
Kid: Uncle Osama, you have struck a great victory to unify the worldwide Muslim nation into an Ummah so that the Kalifah could return to Earth and destroy the American Kaffir like he promised. You must be proud of your achievement!
Osama: Nope, I just wanted my own TV show, but Tom Green and Jackass stole my idea, so that was the best thing I could come up with. The moral of the story is that sometimes the backup plan really sucks. Now let us reunite. At least I got a few old buildings around Kabul demolished yeeeehaaa. It wasn't me, it was Allah and Jesus!
A caveman dreams of being us, the incalculable power and riches. We dream of being Q, then what?
Who needs food and drink? I just inject my caffeine directly into a vein!!
~REZ~ #43301. Who'd fake being me anyway?
The car was owned in Florida for the first 10 years of its life. It has been kept in upstate NY for the rest of the time. The studded tires are a must because the car is RWD, and we get much snow and ice up here. They use plows and salt to get rid of most of the snow and ice, but usually only on the main roads. I found out recently that there is Zinc in the body panels of some Volvo's which explains why there is very little rust. (and also why the average lifespan of a Volvo is over 18 years)
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Nader's views on violent media
A quote from that article:
But a new coalition of parents and friends -- the Center for a New American Dream -- is moving to organize public opinion and offer stiffer resistance. In a poll of parents commissioned by the center, 70 percent of parents, with children age 2 to 17, say that marketing to kids is bad for their kids' values and world view, makes them too materialistic, and puts pressure on kids to buy things that are bad for them.
Now, I will be the first to admit that Nader is not actually a Green, but many Greens have chosen him multiple times as their spokesperson, and his opinions are the most readily available. My knowledge of the views of other Greens comes largely from reading such far left media as Adbusters Magazine, where many, many readers have written in screaming about how violent video games should be banned, especially immediately following the Columbine incident.
My responses are not meant to imply that there are only two points of view possible, but to reply to an earlier grandparent post stating that the idea that liberals and censorship go together is laughable. They do go together. Wake up. Most liberal ideology strives for greater government micromanagement - more rules, more laws, more restrictions. That IS in fact what the word implies at this point, and if you don't believe it, you're fooling yourself.