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The Aging Gamer

An anonymous reader writes "There is a short article at the Rochester Democrat and Chronicle about the surprising statistic that a large potion of computer gamers are over 35. This actually makes sense, since many of them began gaming in the 70's. A short and semi-interesting read."

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  1. Slashdot: home of the semi-interesting read by wadetemp · · Score: 4, Funny

    Please refrain from from posting semi-interesting comments lest this entire thread become only semi-interesting.

  2. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  3. In another surprising study... by bravehamster · · Score: 5, Funny
    In another surprising study, the same thing was found to be true of Britney Spears fans.

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  4. Another interesting statistic.. by He+Was+Gamecubed · · Score: 4, Funny

    Another anonymous reader points out a not-so-suprising statistic: 92.4% of /. editors failed elemtary spelling exams.

    1. Re:Another interesting statistic.. by Jerf · · Score: 5, Funny

      The smallest fraction with integral dividend and divisor that produces .924 is 231/250. (3*7*11 / 5*5*5*2)

      Empirical observation suggests that your implicit claim that there are 19 (250-231) Slashdot editors that can spell is false, unless you can produce 19 such editors. (Difficult, since the entire universe of discourse is what, six people?)

      I suspect something has gone wonky with your math, and suggest you correct it posthaste. Alternatively, you can clarify what you mean by a fractional editor.

      For the humorless, :-)

  5. and how many are single ... by pleclair · · Score: 5, Funny

    I would be more interested in seeing how many of these people are unmarried ... or divorced as a direct result of gaming

    1. Re:and how many are single ... by DoctorPepper · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'm currently 43 and on my second marriage. My first marriage ended in divorce, not because of gaming, but becuase of hacking. I would practically lock myself in the room with my computer and write code on the weekends. Boy was I stupid back then! Now I just don't lock the door :-)

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    2. Re:and how many are single ... by Life2Short · · Score: 4, Funny

      Well I'm 39 and single. Got my first Atari at the tender age of 12-13, back when they were Sears' Video Arcades. I can recall one girlfriend that my "hobby" cost me particularly clearly. I met her while I was living in London. I guess I wasn't spending enough time with her, because one night after work she called me over to a crowded pub near our workplace (she'd been there drinking since about 3pm). She proceeded to pick a fight with me and in the middle of this crowded bar she yells, "YOU WOULD RATHER PLAY WITH YOUR STUPID COMPUTER THAN HAVE SEX WITH ME!!!" Things got very quiet in the pub very fast. Actually, it wasn't really fair. What she said was only true PART of the time.

    3. Re:and how many are single ... by aebrain · · Score: 4, Funny
      I'm currently 43 and on my second marriage.
      44 and still on my first - and we've just had our first child, after 20 years of wedded blitz.

      Started programming at age 9 back in 1967, and the first computer game I played was on an IBM-360 back in 72. Star Trek, no less. First game I ever programmed was on an HP-65 programmable calculator a few years later.

      So my advice is - don't think you'll be "old" in 2030. Save up some good stories about how the Net used to be free, how 2 GigaHz was a fast machine, how we only dreamed of having a Petabyte of main memory on our machine - which was on a desk, not wearable/implanted.

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    4. Re:and how many are single ... by back_pages · · Score: 5, Funny

      My girlfriend always tells me that if my computer and she fell into the ocean, I'd save my computer first. I always tell her that's not true, because the computer would already be screwed by the salt water at that point and a total loss. Even though I'm telling her that I would save her first, she is still mad at me. Women! It's so difficult to understand their proprietary architecture!

  6. Re:Bad typo by Mike+Schiraldi · · Score: 4, Funny

    Large "POTION"? That's nasty. And a spell check wouldn't pick that up.

    Sure it would:

    It looks like you're trying to mix an invisibility potion, but you used three newt eyes instead of the correct number, four.

  7. Linux Games by billd · · Score: 4, Funny
    I'm getting pretty good at Frozen Bubble & I'm way over 35 (hey, it happens)

    My son however is a better example of an avid gamer. He's been playing Starcraft solidly for the past 2 weeks (school hols) including several overniters.

    Seems a bit excessive to me, but then, I'm not addicted

    ... to gaming that is... Beer on the other hand...

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    1. Re:Linux Games by billd · · Score: 5, Interesting
      DO you think that makes me a truly horrible parent! Parenting is not that easy, I'm trying. Really. Would you recommend that I ban him from the computers? Would that make me a good parent?

      Look maybe I exaggerated a bit. He has eaten, he has slept - a bit. I read the Korean thing. I'm trying to give him some space while school's out. But I'm willing to consider alternatives, if it will help him to have a happier life.

      Geez, give me a break $0 elite; some constructive suggestions would go down well........

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    2. Re:Linux Games by scott1853 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Wrong. Being a bad parent would be not even knowing what your kid has been doing for the last two weeks. This guy knows. And if you force a kid to stop whatever they are doing for no good reason other than "because so elite said so" then they're just going to get pissed off at you and nothing's solved. Then the kid's going to be angry and forced to find something else fun to do before he was prepared to which sounds like a good path toward all sorts of problematic behavior.

      You sound like you don't have kids yourself and you're one of the armchair parents like the ones that run this country. You know the type, the ones that think that they should have complete control over the raising of every child in the country yet can't manage their own family.

    3. Re:Linux Games by scott1853 · · Score: 4

      I'm in front of a computer for the 728th week straight. What's your point? You probably spend a good deal of time in front of the computer too, hence the /. account. Who freaking cares? Who says it's wrong to spend your time doing a completely legal activity.

      I have a 4 year old son. He spent about 3 weeks playing games on the computer. He spent another 4 playing Mario 64, and another 2 playing Zelda 64. Now he's tired of playing video games. Guess what, his brain didn't fall out, he isn't wandering the street with a loaded shotgun, and he's not out smoking on the street corners. Everybodies different, you do realize that right? You also realize that they're different because of different life experiences right?

      Final point: children learn SOMETHING from EVERYTHING.

  8. whew, I'm not the only one ... by Quino · · Score: 5, Funny

    I used to (somewhat apologetically) explain to people that I had spent last friday night playing GTA3 (I'm 28). I used to think I was a loser, but it's nice to know I'm part of a larger demographic! :) Then again, this doesn't necessarily mean I'm not a loser, just not the only one!

  9. Think of gamers beyond retirement.. by lute3 · · Score: 5, Funny
    Currently we have phones with small games in them.

    With the technology available when these 35-year-olds are 70, they'll be able to have fully immersive games embedded in their walkers.

  10. Sounds like me... by eaddict · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Now that I am over 35 (egad! Going to hit 28h soon!) I can actually afford the games. The ones I buy would have been a heck of a lot of allowance or lawns in my day. In fact, I think this age thing also has to do with the fact that games are much better than they used to be too - from a hardware and software point. When I first started out there wasn't much available for my $3500 Leading Edge...

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  11. What about Consoles? by Anenga · · Score: 5, Funny

    What popular games were out on the PC platform in the 70's? Perhaps they're talking about Super Mario or Pacman?

    Does this same age group dominate the console market too? If so, then perhaps Nintendo and Playstation should change their target demographics. Stop selling games with "FREE Bike Decals!" and replace it with "FREE Car Insurance Estimate!"

  12. Curious ailment for older gamers by 0ddity · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I am sure everyone knows what "Nintendo Thumb" is. Playing so long that you form blisters on top of blisters.

    What kind of health hazards do we need to watch out for in the future.

    Chronic arthritis of the thumbs is one thing but what happens when we all start gaming in VR?

  13. They're still alive? by Capsaicin · · Score: 4, Funny

    Unbelievable, they have been playing computer games for over 20 years and it hasn't killed them yet?

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  14. pfft cramps by waspleg · · Score: 4, Funny

    men use bandaids and soldier onward princess zelda needs our attentions and school can only stay shut down from sheets of ice for so long..

    that's when games focused on playability (read: FUN) rather than flashy (8 bits, mmm) graphics

  15. why would anyone quit gaming? by w1r3sp33d · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I played pong when it was bleeding edge technology, why wouldn't I be excited about the great advances in games over the last several years or be looking forward to some of the new games coming out in 2003? I am part of a generation of kids who have had every system between the Atari 2600 and the Xbox, I would think that our consumer dollars would be very strong in this market. I just don't understand this being a surprise to anyone.

    1. Re:why would anyone quit gaming? by danny256 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Why would anyone quit gaming?
      I've been gaming for the last 14 years (I'm 20 right now) and every year that passes I find I enjoy games less and less. Nothing can ever bring me back to the highs I achieved with Mario 1 or Warcraft 2. Even though the games today have better graphics and are supposedly more advanced, I just don't find them fun, and it gets worse with every new game I get. I expect to stop gaming altogether within a year or two. I kind of think its like playing with lego or something, a lot of people just grow out of it as they get older. It is sad for me though, I havn't really found anything new to fill the void that games used to fill.

  16. Slashdot by Anenga · · Score: 4, Funny

    Semi-News for Nerds. Stuff that semi-Matters.

  17. Thanks.... by fluxrad · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...the surprising statistic that a large potion of computer gamers...

    LAN Party in a bottle?

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  18. Voodoo Mathematics by greenhide · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This actually makes sense, since many of them began gaming in the 70's.

    Right, this makes sense. If you are 35 and you are gaming, you must have been doing so your entire lifetime.

    How about this instead: Someone who is 35 now was in their mid teens when arcade games were really big in the mid eighties. They started playing the games non-stop. Most of them did not play on computers at home, they went out to an arcade.

    Fast forward ten to fifteen years. Home game consoles are so cheap and so powerful that they're better than going to the arcade. The same people who went to the arcade started buying the game consoles.

    Which brings us to today. Believe it or not folks, I actually know some people who are over 35 years old, and they might actually fool you into thinking they weren't wearing Depends. Most of them still like doing the things they did when they were in their late teens and early twenties, which includes gaming.

    Now, if the study had claimed that the average gaming age was 40 or 45, that would have been a little harder to swallow.

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  19. Re:I would have to say... by altairmaine · · Score: 5, Insightful

    > That is quite scary, considering that gaming is at an all time high right now...so, if in 20 years
    > 90+% of gamers are over 35, i wouldn't be shocked....

    Ummmm. That really doesn't make any sense. The birth rate isn't plummetting catastrophically. I teach high school - and I assure you that a large fraction of the 14-year-olds on down are quite hooked. They'll be 34 in 20 years, and I don't see any likely reason that gaming would stop gaining recruits. 10 or so to 35 is an awfully big fraction of the population, much more than 10% - even if they WERE underrepresented in the gaming group, they'd claim more than 10% of it. And I see such an underrepresentation as unlikely. A higher fraction of today's youth are gamers, for instance, than were gamers in the 70s.

  20. Your sig by diaphanous · · Score: 5, Informative

    "REAL geeks think that Y2K happens in the year 2048."

    Don't you mean 2038? Assuming of course, that you are referring to the problems that may occur in 2038 when the number of seconds since the beginning of the UNIX epoch will overflow 32 bit integers.

    ~Phillip

    1. Re:Your sig by diaphanous · · Score: 4, Funny

      Ah, but real geeks use base 1009 (for their mathematical needs and

      2k = 2 * 1009 + 20 = 2018 + 20 = 2038

      ~Phillip

  21. Large Potion of Computer Gamers by GoogolPlexPlex · · Score: 5, Funny

    When potion is consumed, 12 hit-dice of computer gamers are summoned in the area surrounding the consumer. Half of the summoned computer gamers will attack the enemies of the party of the consumer, half will form an opposing team and attack the other half (and the party itself). They will remain for 6 turns, until unsummoned, or until the supply of Mountain Dew runs out, whichever occurs first.

  22. Gah! by EvilStein · · Score: 4, Funny

    Some of them are still playing the same Nethack game they started in 79!

    The rest are probably wandering through the Zork anthology over and over and over..... hell, I've been lost in the Zork II maze since 1989.

  23. Evolution of the gamer? by phorm · · Score: 5, Funny

    1. One moment mom, I just have to save my game!
    2. I'll be there soon honey, I'm almost done
    3. Damnit Martha where are my spectacles? I can't see the crosshairs and I'm 4 frags behind.

    If I can find a game that's not a repeat-concept when I'm 40 I'll be very happy - phorm

  24. Imagine the old folks home in a few years... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    People won't be complaining about the food, they'll be saying "This internet connection isn't any good"

    I remember when Quake 3 was all the rage.

  25. Wait'll the nurses... by mtec · · Score: 5, Funny

    in our old folks homes get a loada the way we can press that call button!

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    1. Re:Wait'll the nurses... by ktakki · · Score: 4, Funny

      Up down up down left right left right start select = unlimited nurses.

      k.

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  26. I would have to say..."Pooey, from me to you!" by ackthpt · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Mario? Geez, that's, like NEW!

    I started playing games on a model 33 Teletype. Then we got an OSI 540 board going and I played Tiger Tank 'til the wee hours. And Wumpus and all matter of things, before discovering $DUNGEO (many refer to this as Zork) and $ADVENT (Colossal Cave), both brought back on a tape from a DECUS. Then there were many others written by students, before the first Apple Lab opened on campus and color was introduced. Eventually arcades sprung up at the mall, where Mario lept over barrels to rescue a princess.

    Aging gamers? Well, there's aging games, too, which many call AbandonWare (and many a site dedicated to the nobel cause of keeping these things alive, while EA keeps recreating the same themes over and over...)

    It's really a question of what a generation does with its leisure time. Mine spent it gaming. The current one does, too. It's rather hard to imagine future generations not doing it (unless everyone suddenly falls for some absurd cult.

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  27. in other news by RestiffBard · · Score: 4, Funny

    a surprising number of drivers can be found in all age ranges. not surprising since cars have been around for almost a hundred years.

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  28. Run Logan, run! by kfg · · Score: 4, Informative

    Gee, who woulda thunk that *old* people might like playing games? It's unseemly I tell you. Next thing you know 35 year olds will expect to be *real* racing drivers, mercenaries, adventurers, golfers, fighter pilots and, ummmm. . . Tertroids.

    We have to put a stop to this. Kill 'em. Kill 'em at 30. Kill 'em all!

    Here's another hot newsflash from the blindingly obvious findings desk, your parents still " do it." Not only that, they "do it" more often, and *better,* than you do.

    KFG

  29. Take him camping. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Hunting is good. It'll help his CounterStrike game. I can see it now: father and son bunny-hopping through the woods with AWPs.

  30. Quasi-interesting by danish · · Score: 5, Funny

    An open letter to the editors of the Rochester Democrat and Chronicle:

    Your articles are only quasi-interesting. Semi-interesting. You're the margarine of interesting. You're the Slashdot of interesting -- only one calorie, not interesting enough!

    Thank you.

  31. Computer Games Got Me Started Programming by dochood · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I started playing computer games at age 14 in 1980, on a TRS-80, then an Apple II. I started playing a fair bit (growing up in a town of 350 folks there isn't a lot to do, anyway), when my science teacher noticed something in me. He said, "You know, I'm not going to let you play on that thing anymore unless you learn to program it!" I asked, how am I going to do that? He responded by throwing the programming manual in my lap and said, "Here. Ask if you have any questions."

    That got me started down the path to my current career! I played a lot of games in HS, but I also wrote my own text based adventure game on an Apple II, and I even wrote a little "Star Wars" game on a Vic 20 that I borrowed from a neighbor kid over Christmas Break!

    I'm now a Software Engineer for a Government Contractor firm, working in some cool technologies. I still play games today (having moved up from Apple Panic and Castle Wolfenstein 1 to Serious Sam II), but I don't play as much as I used to, having a wife and two kids. I do let my kids play a little more than I probably should, but I'm hoping that the love of computers might get them interested in programming, too! Since we homeschool, I personally think they'd have a GREAT computer programming teacher!

    P.S. Thanks, Mr. B! (science teacher) Without you, I might still be a gamer, but I probably never would have become a programmer!

  32. WARNING: Argument sketch conjured by billd · · Score: 5, Funny
    Is this the right room for an argument?

    I told you once

    No you didn't

    Yes I did

    When

    Just now

    No you didn't.

    Look if I argure, I must take up a contrary positionI

    yes but that isn't just saying "no it isn't"

    yes it is

    no it isn't

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  33. I've Always Wanted to Make a Web Site... by Spencerian · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ...just for the older gamer, like me.

    I'm 38, and I still enjoy most kinds of games. Least amused by D&D style games like Neverwinter Nights (great title, though). I still rock with FPS and easily kick the ass of most people my age. Been playing a long time, since the 70's and Mattel's handheld football, the Ataris, and even DEC terminals with Camel and Trek.

    Passing time with Diablo II still, getting into some Sims, been really fragging the shit out of some young-ums in Quake 3, and looking forward to showing young meat how to catch a lightsaber when Jedi Knight II comes out for Mac OS X in a couple of weeks.

    Yep, card carrying, Excellent Fragging Member of The Old Gamers Club: Where you are never too young to get your ass kicked.

    I sincerely plan to be old but still able to hang and beat my grandchildren at whatever marvels show up in the future. I was around during the dawn of the electronic gaming age, and my "Tron finger" is as snappy as ever.

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