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Blogger Hacked

WCityMike writes "Blogger has been severely hacked into, with users' passwords and e-mail addresses being replaced with 'hacx0redbyme' or 'hax0redbyme.' Apparently, attempts to change your password or other information do not succeed due to a major database problem. Blogger currently has no official news: its main page simply apologizes for being down for repairs and its status blog has no information, probably suffering from the same accessing problem as other blogs. In the meantime, discussion, information, and advice is appearing on the weblogs of Anil Dash and Tom Coates, as well as this QuickTopic thread. Glad I use another journaling service." We usually try to avoid "Site X Hacked!" stories, but since this affects so many people - and, heh-heh, they don't have anywhere else to talk about it - here you go.

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  1. A bit mean. by scumdamn · · Score: 3, Funny

    How could he say "heh-heh"? Blogging is a required service of the internet now! Without Blogs, what are we? Blogs are what seperates us from the animals! (well, that and product placement)

    1. Re:A bit mean. by gowen · · Score: 5, Funny
      Blogs are what seperates us from the animals
      Thats true. You never see dogs boring each other witless with the irrelevant minutiae of their lives. Mind you, dog's can lick actually their own genitals, which is pretty much what blogging is a substitute for...
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    2. Re:A bit mean. by delphi125 · · Score: 2, Funny
      Mind you, dog's can lick actually their own genitals, which is pretty much what blogging is a substitute for...

      Why does a dog lick its balls? Because it can. And mostly, they do. Unlike humans weblogging. I'm sure many more can than do. And if they do, you don't really have to read them, or at least it is easier to ignore than the dog that just humped your leg. And as to boring each other witless, no they will never get bored sniffing each others arses. I suppose that is what really separates us.

    3. Re:A bit mean. by scott1853 · · Score: 4, Funny

      You're absolutely correct. People need a place to discuss topics ranging from the great tasting new Pepsi Twist to the new Chicago Style Deep Dish Pizza from Pizza Hut that's so deep, you'll need to eat it with a fork.

      Without blogging capabilities we would be just like animals you would see on The Crocodile Hunter on Animal Planet, Wed. and Sat at 8pm, 11pm, and 3am.

      All in all, blogging gives us purpose, and gives us a sense of comfort, similar to the new E-Class from Mercedes-Benz

    4. Re:A bit mean. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny
      Thats true. You never see dogs boring each other witless with the irrelevant minutiae of their lives. Mind you, dog's can lick actually their own genitals, which is pretty much what blogging is a substitute for...


      true enough, but while the dog's licking thier own bits and each others orafices serves some kind of purpose, bloggers are nearly entirely useless. Actually I always thought that the best parrallel to blogging was the jerry springer show: sure you can brag about what a loser you are to the public at large, and jerry springer fans will complain that you "Don't have to watch it", but really the best solution to the problem is a little napalm.

      as for the humourous arguement that somehow blogs "might be worthwhile to historians" perhaps in the same way that old trash becomes "valueable" to specialized trash collectors, i give you the poster child of blogging that i ran into while trying to give bloggers a fair shot from the last time
  2. And in other news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Authorities were puzzled by the seemingly strange rash of "FIRST HACK!!!" posts on slashdot.org that arose shortly thereafter.

  3. I'm glad I don't use a blog by LordHunter317 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I wouldn't want some l337 hax0r coming in and reading everything about my personal life...

    Oh wait, everyone can do that.

    Doh!

    1. Re:I'm glad I don't use a blog by -=OmegaMan=- · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yes, I'm sure the braintrust that makes up the majority to bloggers will hop all over PGP.

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    2. Re:I'm glad I don't use a blog by dAzED1 · · Score: 2

      I wish I had some mod points atm, cause that was worth a laugh ;)

      Here we all, all worried about our privacy, and there are all these people that want to spread their personal info all over. I don't personally see the voyeurism that would justify this sort of nonesense. I mean, there's freaking books on how to do this crap, for pete's sake. Eh.

  4. no where else to talk about it.... by CySurflex · · Score: 3, Funny

    Yeah "they don't have anywhere else to talk about it" is definitely a good reason. BTW, my mom doesn't have anywhere else to talk about her recipes.

  5. Blogger's troubles by spookysuicide · · Score: 5, Informative

    Blogger has been having a lot of troubles lately, if you can find your own web hosting, you may want to consider using the very easy to set-up movable type.

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    1. Re:Blogger's troubles by inerte · · Score: 3, Informative

      Or Drupal, a superior tool IMHO.

    2. Re:Blogger's troubles by ceejayoz · · Score: 2

      MoveableType is definitely spiffy... Two thumbs up! :)

    3. Re:Blogger's troubles by namespan · · Score: 2

      MT is pretty sweet, but.... as it gets more popular, it too will probably be hacked.

      Your best hope to remain hack free is to design your own system from scratch. Preferably using some ungodly combination of Java, Fortran, XSLT, XML, and a custom database you wrote in C for the fun of it.

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    4. Re:Blogger's troubles by taernim · · Score: 3, Informative

      Livejournal is another great substitute for Blogger... plus, it's open source. Always a bonus. =)

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    5. Re:Blogger's troubles by Gogl · · Score: 2

      Amen to Movable Type. Good stuff, easy to set up, yes I know I'm repeating what others are saying but I'll also shamelessly self promote as I run my site with MT:

      www.proles.net (the one I link to in my sig)

      Whee self promotion...

  6. Blogs, who need em? by zaren · · Score: 3, Informative

    I signed up for a blog once, to see what all the fuss was about. I ended up scrapping it and going back to doing page entries manually. It ended up being MUCH less hassle than having to use someone else's software, and then having to go back and re-tweak things with it. Editing HTML from the command line in a shell is much more time-efficient, IMHO.

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    1. Re:Blogs, who need em? by hansk · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Sure, but for a majority of web users, a simple blogging application is the way to go. And because these easy-to-use blog apps have been provided, that's why they have become popular.

    2. Re:Blogs, who need em? by The+Good+Reverend · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Web logs are amazingly convenient for people who don't have the skills to edit from the command line. Remember, most people on the internet aren't as savvy as you or I are, and to them, blogs are an easy and efficient means to updating their personal site. Don't put them down simply because they found a way onto the web without your skill level.

    3. Re:Blogs, who need em? by Anemophilous+Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      That is good and all from your standpoint, being comfortable with HTML an all. However at our org. I needed to provide a way for our PR person to be able to update news pages all on her own.

      Moveabletype works great for this (since I'm not a hardcore perl programmer, it was nice to have someone else do that work). I spent a few days building and modifying the page templates and setting up the site. Now all she has to do is login to a page, add a title and main story and click publish. Instantly several pages are updated with the appropriate news information, archives and search links, etc. Very nice since I don't have to waste time getting the information from her each time and create a new page. Great for her, because she can update the news website anytime she gets a press release.

      I think Blogger itself is somewhat bland, mostly for the novice/home user wanting to get a voice out. For the professional there are some impressive tools that will save you time (Movabletype or Radio UserLand)

      - A non-productive mind is with absolute zero balance.
      - AC

    4. Re:Blogs, who need em? by jacobito · · Score: 2

      Oh yeah, I agree completely. I can't for the life of me understand, for example, why those lazy Slashdot people waste their time with a content management system.

  7. hmmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Well, since the home page just says the site is down, I'll have to ask here. wtf is blogger?

  8. Good for them by photon317 · · Score: 3, Insightful


    I hate the word blog and all its derivatives, they deserve it for promoting this pop-culter-esque net phenomenon. Either you run a news site, a discussion site, a community, a personal journal or something along those lines. Blog is a stupid term someone made up to sound cool.

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    1. Re:Good for them by Nikkos · · Score: 2, Informative

      Blog is short for Web Log.

      Say "web log" 5 times fast and you'll understand why.

      I don't see anything "pop-culture-esqe" about it.

      Nikkos

    2. Re:Good for them by glesga_kiss · · Score: 3, Insightful

      And how many people still use the term "electronic mail"?

    3. Re:Good for them by Powercntrl · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I hate the word blog and all its derivatives, they deserve it for promoting this pop-culter-esque net phenomenon. Either you run a news site, a discussion site, a community, a personal journal or something along those lines. Blog is a stupid term someone made up to sound cool.

      As a *nix command, blog would be perfect. Hell, you've already got grep, cat, fsck, mount, umount, etc... Short commands with weird names, it'd fit in perfectly!

      As a name for a personal journal however, it ranks right down there with OGG. These don't sound like technology terms, they sound like something a half-drunk mechanic would say to you... "OGG, your oil is all bloggy, your engine is fscked."

      Personally, I have no need for a blog... As it stands, no one visits my home page (which basically consists of a standard AOL profile-type "about me" page, some MP3s of songs I made in Sonic Foundry Acid and a few free crappy VB programs) anyway so even if I HAD a life and things to write about, only thing that'd ever read it are the webcrawler bots. That's kinda depressing actually... I better schedule an appointment with my shrink.

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    4. Re:Good for them by The+Good+Reverend · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Oh, I'm sorry. Because someone uses a term you don't like, they deserve to be hacked? That's absurd. I'm sorry you have a personal problem with a certain combination of letters.

      It's not like "blog" was created by an ad agency, or by some company to sell it's product. It's a contraction of "Web Log", which is what these types of sites are. Don't like the word? Don't use it. But don't wish an attack on someone because you find time in your day to hate a contraction.

    5. Re:Good for them by tswinzig · · Score: 3, Funny

      Blog is a stupid term someone made up to sound cool.

      Actually, no, what happened was everyone was calling it a 'weblog', which was naturally shortened to 'blog'.

      This is just the latest in a long line of multi-syllable words shortened to single-syllable words, bro.

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      "And like that ... he's gone."
    6. Re:Good for them by Mr.+Sketch · · Score: 2

      This would put you in the ~40% of the slashdot population that hates that word. I admit, I hate it too, such a stupid word.

    7. Re:Good for them by photon317 · · Score: 2


      Haha, here's great proof of moderators moderating based on their opinion of the subject matter (taken from my post above as of about 2:30pm cst):

      Moderation Totals: Flamebait=1, Troll=1, Insightful=3, Interesting=2, Overrated=2, Total=9.

      Most moderators are just using it as another avenue to push their opinion, which is sad.

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    8. Re:Good for them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      I remember when a web log was the server/site access status log.

  9. Meanwhile.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    .... the 12 people who actually care about blogs at all are furious that their lives just got a little more pitiful.

    1. Re:Meanwhile.... by CaffeineAddict2001 · · Score: 4, Funny

      2:13 AM
      Someone hacked my blog. Ignore previous post about "Mandy is a sorry loser". Do not ignore October 20th post with the same title, as this was intentional.

    2. Re:Meanwhile.... by oldstrat · · Score: 5, Funny

      /.
      That's cruel and completely not true.
      The 4 of us handled it completely without anger and substituted by sending each other text messages on our cell phones.

  10. Blogout. by b0r0din · · Score: 5, Funny

    Good thing I chose hax0redbyme as my original password. Ahh, the 1337 L1phs7y13.

  11. recommendation by flanker · · Score: 5, Informative

    Disable or reset the password of the account used to FTP your blog to your web server ASAP.

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  12. Hacked Blog? OMG! by bellings · · Score: 2

    Thank god my favorite blog wasn't hacked.

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  13. I don't really get blogs... by Bonker · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Slashdot, for example, is a lot more of a news and current events site than it is Taco's personal weblog. k5 is more about essays and news. Occasionally, however, I'll stumble across a blog while looking for something else. If I don't know what it is at first, I tend to read it for a few seconds before going back.

    LiveJournal blogs are the worst, IMHO. People go on and on about events and parties with people that 99.99999% of their readers have never met. Once I realize I've stumbled across something like that, I leave it as soon as I can.

    Is it exhbitionism/vouyerism? If I read stories about a person's private life, I'd much rather they beging with a line like, "Dear Penthouse, I've always read the letters in your magazine but never thought that something like that could happen to me..."

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    1. Re:I don't really get blogs... by eclectric · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Well, personally, I don't care if any of my readers know who I'm talking about. I really use a weblog to keep track of my state at any given time. This lets me look back and say "oh, that's what I was thinking." I mean, I don't care if I'm the only person in the world who reads my weblog.

      Why put it on the web? Well, there are often times, on irc and in email, when I want to point someone to something I've written... plus, if anyone is visiting my website, then it's possibly they want to know more about me. If they don't, then fine. If they do, then the weblog is there.

    2. Re:I don't really get blogs... by gyratedotorg · · Score: 2, Interesting

      you dont get blogs, yet you seem to be maintaining one. i dont get that.

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    3. Re:I don't really get blogs... by alanjstr · · Score: 2
      Not all blogs are the same. Here is a review of MetaFilter.com

      "MetaFilter is one of the sometimes confusing class of sites known as 'weblogs.' In the original sense of the word, a weblog is a regularly updated collection of found links, commentaries, and personal reflections, maintained by a single person. For thousands of others, a weblog is simply an online diary - and while some have merit, many more (if not most) feature the "I hate my job," "my cat did the cutest thing," "here's my philosophy" essays which demonstrate that the locks on traditional diaries are there more to protect the public than the author's privacy. Fortunately, MetaFilter falls into the first category, with the distinction that contributions are not made by a single person - this blog has more than 12,000 contributors, and when it comes to scouring the Web, numbers matter."

    4. Re:I don't really get blogs... by Surak · · Score: 2, Redundant

      I dunno. I personally read Wilwheaton.net, which is Wil Wheaton's personal blog. And Alan Cox's online journals. And a few others. What's Slashdot but a big, overgrown blog though really?

    5. Re:I don't really get blogs... by Lord+Omlette · · Score: 2

      Due to head trauma at a very early age, I'm unable to remember anything from more than three days ago unless I have written it down and reread it. So my journal (blog, whatever) is a way of therapy.

      It seems that it entertains my friends, and I don't try to disappoint, but when all is said and done, if I don't write it down, it's pretty much gone for good.

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    6. Re:I don't really get blogs... by DAldredge · · Score: 2

      No. Kuro5hin is about how the everything the USA does is wrong and how American should be USian.

    7. Re:I don't really get blogs... by RebelTycoon · · Score: 2, Funny

      Voices in your head want out... Make a hole for them.

    8. Re:I don't really get blogs... by jacobito · · Score: 4, Insightful

      LiveJournal blogs are the worst, IMHO. People go on and on about events and parties with people that 99.99999% of their readers have never met. Once I realize I've stumbled across something like that, I leave it as soon as I can.

      The obvious response is that you're not their audience. Most bloggers write to keep up with their circles of friends, not to impress the general public with the minutiae of their daily lives.

    9. Re:I don't really get blogs... by wunderhorn1 · · Score: 4, Funny
      OK, here's the thing: Many people who keep blogs have *actual friends* with whom they like to keep in touch with. This idea of writing to friends may be an unfamiliar concept to you, but it's actually quite an attractive idea: You can tell people about your life, and those who care about you can read it and even write back! It's like writing letters, only you have a log of what you've written which could possibly be valuable at a later date, plus it's "write once, read everywhere" which saves you the time of having to compose a new letter each day for every person you want to know about you, and removes from them the burden of obligation to reply to everything you write!

      AND (this gets even better) because it's publicly accessible, you can meet new people with whom you can make friends! You may not have grown up with access to the online world, but for the generation that has, the internet is a great venue for social interaction.
      Does that help you understand why blogs appeal to some?

      If you come across a blog whose contents do not interest you, it probably wasn't meant for you to read. That doesn't mean there aren't people who do care about that person and enjoy keeping in touch with them.

      Oh yeah, and like the other guy said, your web page seems suspiciously weblog-like. And I liked the rant where you bitch about the Taliban's web page :-)

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    10. Re:I don't really get blogs... by Zulfiya · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Well, they're not necessarily for you. LiveJounal, in particular, is geared towards reading other LiveJournal entries. That is, you get together a circle of ten or so friends and socialize. It's not about being informative or entertaining, it's about socializing. Since adding and deleting "friends" is more or less trivial, people leave their journals open (or "public") in the hopes that a person interested in other members of their mini-network will find them and become a new "friend".

      You don't get anything out of the little circle o'exhibition because it's really not there for your benefit. Move along.

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    11. Re:I don't really get blogs... by Dirtside · · Score: 2

      Well, Slashdot didn't even start off as a blog, as I understand it -- it was a place for Taco to post interesting news stories, and then discuss them. A blog is more of a personal journal, talking about your life, as opposed to news in the world at large (or even in several small communities at large).

      I mean, I'm sure there are blogs out there which blur the line between "pure blog" and "news & discussion site" (Slashdot's journal system has begun to do this a bit, although since the journals are hidden a couple of levels down from the front page, it's still primarily what I'd call a news & discussion site).

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    12. Re:I don't really get blogs... by BusDriver · · Score: 2

      If you don't get blogs, why is your website a blog?

    13. Re:I don't really get blogs... by red5 · · Score: 2

      If I read stories about a person's private life, I'd much rather they beging with a line like, "Dear Penthouse, I've always read the letters in your magazine but never thought that something like that could happen to me..."

      Well, if thats the case. Here you go.

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  14. But... but.... by BMonger · · Score: 4, Funny

    I really didn't cheat on my math test like I said in my blogger!!! Somebody hacked it... yeah... that's it...

  15. Shameless plug for my weblog. by eclectric · · Score: 4, Informative

    Luckily, I was worred when I first setup my blogger account, so i switch to a mysql database on my own webserver instead. Eventually, I ended up using movable type to manage my weblog. If you have access to a mysql database on your webserver, I would really recommend doing this.

  16. How will we do without blogs? by Prince_Ali · · Score: 4, Funny

    Blogs are the next coming of geocities. They clutter the internet with useless information.
    I have a blog, but I only use it to say things like, "Fdisk overflowed when I tried to format my hard drive. Now it is negative 15 Gigs!"
    So yeah, I need to be shot.

    1. Re:How will we do without blogs? by wirelessbuzzers · · Score: 2, Funny

      They clutter the internet with useless information..... So yeah, I need to be shot.


      We'll it isn't completely useless information. At the very least, we know who to shoot.

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  17. Blog = weblog by gosand · · Score: 5, Insightful
    FYI, the term blog comes from the term weblog. It got morphed into "we blog", and the term got overused quite a bit. So a blog is basically a journal.

    I have never used one, or intend to. For some unknown reason, it bacame popular to just ramble out your thoughts into an online journal. Whatever. I don't see why this made the news though...

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    1. Re:Blog = weblog by Inoshiro · · Score: 2

      "For some unknown reason, it bacame popular to just ramble out your thoughts into an online journal. Whatever. "

      Then why are you reading Slashdot? Have you read any of CmdrTaco's news postings? ;p

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    2. Re:Blog = weblog by gosand · · Score: 2
      You're using a blog right now dipshit.

      Well, I suppose you are right (except for the dipshit part). I meant that I don't buy into that crap where you ramble about the details of your life for the world to see. I comment on "news" stories here, so that may be some form of blog. I think the real bloggy part of /. is the ability for people to have friends lists, write journal entries, etc. I don't partake in that stuff, I think it is stupid.

      So blog off you bloggity blogznatch.
      (did I use that term correctly?)

      Hey read my online journal and see what I bought at the grocery store yesterday! Whee.

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  18. Oh no! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Now how will we know when she's done her nails or he's bought a new stereo?!

  19. While Everyone by SomeOtherGuy · · Score: 5, Informative

    is looking for alternatives. b2 is a really good and powerful altewrnative. PHP, MySQl, and all the goodies.

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  20. Re:Missing option: by Verloc · · Score: 2

    Ok, maybe I'm wrong, but moderating the parent as Flamebait is just dumb. He's asking a question, and even though he swore he's not baiting anybody!

    People, don't negativly moderate! Nobody really reads at 0 anyway. I mean, if a guy posts at 3 by default and it's a baaaaad post, then maybe, but not an AC! If you moderate good posts up rather than bad posts down, all the people reading at 3 or more will be better off, and I don't think many read at less than that (unless they're moderating).

  21. Huh? by Sexy+Commando · · Score: 2, Funny

    For a second I thought I was looking at /. story generator. It's really been a while to see Something Hacked posts here. Blogger being hacked means loss of productivity, and the weblogs has become metaweblogs.

  22. Status Blog now has info by burgburgburg · · Score: 5, Informative
    As of 10:02 am, the status blog now reports:

    Blogger has suffered a security intrusion by a "haX0r." We have all the data that was changed backed up within a couple hours of the attack, so we can have things pretty much back to normal soon. Of course, we're assessing the situation as thoroughly as possible to make sure it doesn't happen again. Also, if you store your FTP login information in Blogger, it wouldn't hurt to change that on your server--though it is unlikely that information was accessed. Sorry for the inconvenience.

    1. Re:Status Blog now has info by glesga_kiss · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Also, if you store your FTP login information in Blogger, it wouldn't hurt to change that on your server--though it is unlikely that information was accessed. (quoted from web site)

      It is "unlikely" that people got access to an account on your local machine. I think people might want to know either way. Quickly.

    2. Re:Status Blog now has info by Chanc_Gorkon · · Score: 2

      If your web site is like where I store mine, you actually have to be on their network to change the password. So, except for someone munging my site (sheyeah, like I CARE), it does not matter to me, although moving to MT and a webhosting service is something I have been contemplating for a while. I looked at slash and I won't even begin to try and understand it. I have too many OTHER things to do with my life which is why I used Blogger. Also if something is so important to you that you run around changing your password for your web site just because someone might have it, then why do you have the stuff on the web in the first place? Even if they did do something, you can most likely call your provider and get the password reset and then ftp all of your stuff back up. You DID save your site on your hard disk didn't you???

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  23. Is it just me... by Waab · · Score: 3, Insightful

    or does anyone else think it's a bit much for some of these bloggers to be comparing the hack to 9/11?

    I have to wonder what kind of life someone must lead when an attack on their favorite website is as traumatic as the events of that day.

    1. Re:Is it just me... by stratjakt · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Simple.

      These are asshats who's favorite TV show was preempted by news reports that day.

      So they easily compare to this - their favorite website being temporarily.

      It's about how it affected 'them', not the world.

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    2. Re:Is it just me... by Planesdragon · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I have to wonder what kind of life someone must lead when an attack on their favorite website is as traumatic as the events of that day.

      One outside of NYC, obviously.

      9/11 may have been horrible and dastardly and evil and all--but "tramatic" it was not for me or anyone within a hundred miles of where I am, exempting those few who lost relatives.

  24. Lots of services by siliconwafer · · Score: 2, Informative

    *shameless plug*

    There are a LOT of diary/journal/blog services on the web. My personal favorite: Digital Expressions. Not a lot of customization and such, and it has a smaller userbase and a very strong sense of community.

  25. MOD Parent up by rppp01 · · Score: 2

    How many of us really didn't know what a blog was? I know I didn't.

    So, basically, an online journal site was hacked. Not sure this is big news, or news that mattered. But it does qualify as news for nerds.

    Thanks, taco

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  26. one more pointless joke about blogs by L.+VeGas · · Score: 5, Funny

    Hacking a blogging site is like littering in a dump.

  27. Re:script kiddies are sickoes by bellings · · Score: 5, Funny

    They should be treated just like as if they burned down a building, but no, the law doesn't understand.

    They should be treated as if they burned down a building with cute little kitties living inside of it! Because, inside of every blogger there's a cute little kitty, just waiting for you to discover it.

    What these hackers have done is atrocious. It's far, far worse than petty graffiti or vandalism. They have trampled the hearts and emotions of sensitive bloggers everywhere. And for that, there can be no justice -- only bitter revenge.

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  28. Specifically ... by burgburgburg · · Score: 4, Informative
    According to netcraft.com:

    The site blogger.com is running Microsoft-IIS/5.0 on Windows 2000.

  29. Sept 11?!?! by jzs9783 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    From the QuickTopic thread:

    "This is like September the 11th all over again."

    Does that mean the attack on the WTC was a noble cause, causing many to rejoice, point, laugh, and snicker? For humanity's sake, I hope this was the thickest sarcasm ever to form.

    1. Re:Sept 11?!?! by Treeluvinhippy · · Score: 2

      I'm afraid this is a good example of the typical blogger.

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  30. I believe the proper response is ... by burgburgburg · · Score: 2
    D'oh!

    Worst post ever

    1. Re:I believe the proper response is ... by randomErr · · Score: 2

      Thanks, I try my best, or worst as it were :)

      It's Friday, laugh!

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  31. Better hope... by Dynedain · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I hope they did backups.

    And I hope they patch the hole before restoring from the backups.

    More likely they'll dot-bomb.

    Do you know who has your passwords?

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    I'm out of my mind right now, but feel free to leave a message.....
  32. Related story by randomErr · · Score: 3, Interesting

    MS in blog parody takedown
    http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/28/27774.html

    By Andrew Orlowski in San Francisco

    It's a pity that Microsoft's Beth Goza, who we teased here last week, has taken down her weblog. Far from wanting to see it disappear, it ought be preserved in a time capsule.

    But not only has Beth's blog gone underground - so has the parody which inspired our story. It's disappeared from no less than five mirror sites.

    Even more extraordinary, a witch-hunt is on to find the perpetrator. One member of the PocketPC community says legal action is being threatened against the author, whose identity remains a mystery.

    "The phrase 'it will soon be out of our hands' was used by one figure close to Beth," we're told.

    It would be remarkable if Microsoft's expensive legal and public relations machinery were deployed in what is essentially a private matter.

    And highly unlikely, too, as parodies are protected under the First Amendment.

    Microsoft's approach to the press is singularly enlightened, when compared to say an Apple. The company takes barbs in good grace, and doesn't deploy feudal divide and rule tactics. It's never, to our knowledge, sued a journalist. Of course it has its favorite hacks, but in general the philosophy is - they're always going to be mean to us, they'll always be around: meanwhile, we have a message to convey, and stuff to sell.

    Evil and elitist?
    So were we being evil and elitist, as some of you suggested?

    As I replied to Jonathan at StretchingThoughts.com, it's onlyelitist if you think that blogs are folks' only form of expression.

    The king of webloggers Jorn Borger - he was the first to use the term and it's still the best - used to use a quote by Tolstoy in his Usenet sig:- "In human stupidity, when it is not malicious, there is something very touching, even beautiful... There always is." And there is something bewitching about Beth's ruminations such as " just for the record i like it when my foods touch" a line worth of Ralph Wiggum.

    No, what's strange is when an attack on one blogger is perceived as an attack on blogging in general. That implies that there can't possibly be a quality threshold in blogdom, and confirms John Dvorak's worst fearsabout groupthink. This is an unnecessarily defensive reaction and quite wrong. If blogs are writing, there's good and bad writing.

    Of course, John was being satirical, and he wasn't decrying blogdom: only the mentality that blogging is in of itself revolutionary and no criticism can be voiced, and no quality threshold can be drawn; that we must not differentiate between good and bad, because it's all somehow equally valid.

    The parody itself was pretty mean and spiteful. But it's a parody. We hope that groupthink doesn't extinguish parodies, as they help us see that the Emperor has no clothes.

    Please let us know if you've been contacted in relation to this investigation. And in the meantime, enjoy some other fine online journals by Microsoft staff:- which might be low on cheap laughs, but high on content:- min jeschwad, Inkblog, and more highlighted in this Kuro5hin thread.®

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  33. Movable Type put the moves on me. by MisterSquid · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Movable Type is indeed excellent weblogging donationware. The folks at Movable Type are great at providing requested features and documenting their software. Installation takes (and I mean this) fewer than 15 minutes, set-up maybe 1/2 hour for even the most non-technical of users.

    I would rather run the latest release of Slash and went so far as to even check out chromatic's Running Weblogs with Slash (NB: /.'ers, /. is a weblog) after reading this recent /. story about "Building Online Communities."

    My problem though is that Slashcode requires a dedicated server--or one on which you have root acces--to install. I'm sure this gives Slash many advantages, but those of us who can't afford dedicated server solutions can't make use of those advantages. My web host doesn't even allow shell access.

    Movable Type (and a few other brands of weblog software) offers people with cheap web-hosting solutions to successfully install high-quality, customizable, open-source weblog software. The couple who run Movable Type produce a quality product. Check them out if you want to run weblog software but don't have a lot of money.

    I wonder if the /. crew couldn't be persuaded to come up with a version of Slash that doesn't require a dedicated server . . .

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  34. Did anyone else notice.... by MCMLXXVI · · Score: 2, Informative

    the diary-x.com link prevented a slashdot-ing with some very simple code. A simple way of preventing your server from crying uncle.
    I have often thought of writing a little code that blocks refering domains if they refer too many in a set period of time.

  35. Another Journalling service by isorox · · Score: 2

    Glad I use another journaling service.

    I like it - that site wont be slashdotted!

  36. For all those bashing "Blogs" by aengblom · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Blogs have achieved one of the most fantastic of things ever on the internet. They killed the personal web site! Anyone been asked to visit anyones "personal web page" recently? I think not!

    Personal web pages were 50 times worse than any blog. It's evolution--not revolution ;-).

    Anyway... My friend has a blog. It's is like the BBS I ran when I was 14. Some friends log in. We talk about intersting things (or not) publicly. Eventually when I did things right, a few extra people came along and we had some good conversations.

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    1. Re:For all those bashing "Blogs" by buckeyeguy · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Gee, maybe some of us miss those days of yellow text on purple backgrounds, 5 fonts sizes per page and misformatted tables (done by hand editing HTML, natch). And the blinking text, too. Always a favorite.

      But don't compare blogs to a BBS... those were the days when you actually had to have a brain to get online, versus now, when Bertha Walmartski can blog it up to tell the world that one of her three toy poodles is depressed.

      P.S. some of those awful personal pages still exist. I'd tell you where, but you'd go blind viewing them ;)

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    2. Re:For all those bashing "Blogs" by aengblom · · Score: 4, Funny

      But don't compare blogs to a BBS... those were the days when you actually had to have a brain to get online, versus now, when Bertha Walmartski can blog it up to tell the world that one of her three toy poodles is depressed.

      You never signed on to my BBS did you

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    3. Re:For all those bashing "Blogs" by bigmouth_strikes · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "those were the days when you actually had to have a brain to get online, versus now,"

      No, you are wrong. I am still waiting for people to actually use their brain and creativity when online, instead of trying to run a webserver on a carport remote control. It is a shame that the internet has turned into an anarchistic kindergarten because only juveniles can get connected. The reason those awful personal pages exist is that NOONE has anything to say. I wish my grandparents could get on the internet and publish their ideas, experiences and memories instead of kids with fake Britney pr0n and 1337-speak.

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    4. Re:For all those bashing "Blogs" by dswensen · · Score: 4, Informative
      But don't compare blogs to a BBS... those were the days when you actually had to have a brain to get online, versus now

      Give this man a 5, Funny!

      I used to frequent a BBS. The rank stupidity I encountered there still amazes me -- I kept a few logs of some of those exchanges, and my reaction varies between thinking they must have been joking and wondering how they could even operate a keyboard.

      Incidentally, that particular BBS is still running, more than seven years later. I've checked in on a couple occasions, only to find the exact same users, arguing about the exact same things, obsessing over the same miniscule and irrelevant BBS policies, carving the same mountains out of molehills -- seven years later. It gave me the chills. I sometimes wonder if they're not trapped in some kind of Sartrian hell.

      The tools have advanced, there are a lot more people on the net now, but the general level of intelligence (on both ends) is about the same as it always was. What you see in an average blog isn't any more or less insightful than what I saw in the "Grips" or "Non Sequitur" forums on the old BBS.

  37. One more reason not to Blog by Winterblink · · Score: 2

    Never trusted it. Give us the username and password of your FTP/Web account? Give me a break. So basically this guy hacked a single database and now could potentially have the login information for THOUSANDS of sites out there. Blogger can keep its service. If I want a Blog, I'll code it myself.

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    -Hoban Washburn
    1. Re:One more reason not to Blog by mborland · · Score: 2
      Never trusted it.

      I'm right on board with you. They didn't seem to do much to secure the database, when I looked at it about over a year or so ago. I became more concerned when they basically became a one-person operation, and have avoided the service like Kryptonite.

      Let this be a lesson--learn to trust your service providers before you jump on board with them. Also, use common sense and avoid services that store your FTP (and possibly ISP!) account info.

  38. The problem with overhyped blogs... by Dark+Lord+Seth · · Score: 2, Troll

    ... is not the creator of those blogs who use everything from 500kb animated gifs to multiple embedded flash files to gain attention, no, it's those sad people who clique together and generally agree on everything that the creator writes. Basically, most blogs are from women of all ages and most fans are 14 year pubescent teenagers hoping to read something sexually orientated. Unfortunatly, it almost never goes past this:

    I saw this and that movie and OMG is so r0x0r3d! All my friend on IRC agreed with me, except this Seth person who was being a dickhead again. Oh and my cat threw up sulphuric acid when at my mother's place, ruining the 3000 dollar persian carpet. Sorry moms, pops... Luv ya all, your favourite grrl!

    Something like that, only true blogwhores type allot more and generally convey even less interesting facts... Ah well, at least I'm not wasting my time on stupid overhyped blogs. As for that someone who cracked the Blogger DB; Do something more useful next time your g/f breaks up with you, getting back at her by ruining her blog isn't the brightest thing around.

  39. Annotated bookmarks by Wee · · Score: 3, Interesting
    You've said it perfectly. I personally write stuff on my website mostly as a form of annotated bookmarks. If I see something cool, or figure some new thing out, I can post it on my site and then go back and find it later and know what I was thinking at the time. And if other people want to check it out, they can. I've posted some fairly helpful (if tiny) tidbits, even if I say so myself, and they do get searched for. My journal is like the margins in my book of the Internet.

    But there is more to it than that. Everyone wants to spout off sometimes. If you have an easy forum for writing stuff down, eventually you'll rant about something. And doing so helps you "save state". You can go back a year later and see where you were mentally. And as you said, it helps people who are at a distance figure out what you've been up to. Having it web-accessible means you can write from anywhere.

    There's nothing wrong with keeping a web journal.

    -B

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  40. Alternate "weblog" site refusing access from /. by Mario+B · · Score: 2, Informative

    If you try to access the alternate site mentionned in the message (diary-x.com), you will get the following: "Go Away I suggest outside, you look like you could use some sun.". You can access the "normal" website by copy-pasting the address (www.diary-x.com) in your browser instead of using the link (assuming your current page is NOT the slashdot mainpage).

  41. oh thank goodness. by gabec · · Score: 5, Funny

    What I did today: Well my 'blog website is down today. I dunno why. Golly. Luckily enough I found another website (as you can see) where I could babble on and on about absolutely nothing. Felix, (my roommate's cat) is doing just fine, thank you for asking. Did you see the X-Files re-run last week? Oh dear, look at the time. Maybe the normal blog website is back up. *hope*hope*

  42. In additional developments... by Hyped01 · · Score: 4, Funny
    "Blogger currently has no official news: its main page simply apologizes for being slashdotted if they re-enable full content, making their downtime for repairs even worse since they'll probably suffer from the same accessing problem as many other sites linked to from /.'s home page."

    :-)

    -Rob

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  43. Schadenfreude by Grimmtooth · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Well, gee, considering the average level of post here, I'm guessing (JUST a guess you understand) that Schadenfreude is about the only way some of these people can inflate thier tiny, shrivelled-up egos.

    Any question of why people think geeks are losers can be answered for the most part by a quick scan of the postings in this story.

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  44. I have not figured that one out yet by twitter · · Score: 3, Interesting
    if you can find your own web hosting

    I'm waiting for the day I can host my own web again. Why should anyone have to go any further than their own 486 to put up a website? The quality of free software available and ease of set up is astounding. There are a dozen or so web servers in Debian, and many fine automation programs for putting content onto those sites. It's as easy as:

    1. type deselect

    2. press spacebar

    3. type /apache

    4. press +

    5. repeat steps 3 and 4 for igal and other programs you want.

    6. press enter a few times.

    7. pull up a browser, a command line and an editor and enjoy building your site.

    I'm not sure why everyone interested has not done this. OK, ipchains takes a little more work, but it can be done in a few days with knowlegable help, so you can look at the rest of the web with the rest of your computers. The problem has something to do with the last mile, greedy and stupid publishers and fools that listen to them.

    My cable company has made all but ftp impossible and ftp is painful to most of the people I'd like to reach. Outbound port 80, and 25 are blocked. Most cable companies don't block port 21 because that would kill AOL's instant messenger. Still, the upload rate is crimped worse and worse, and html files don't work well over the system. The overall performance is poor, but I'd rather send my mom there to look at baby pictures than send her to some advert filled crap I don't have any control over now or ever. Eventually they will block port 21.

    It's stupid. My cable company could make more charging $20 a month to three people than $45 to one. I'd recomend people move to cable if cable were really worth anything to me, but it isn't so I don't.

    blogging services are nice, but only needed because the net is not free.

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    1. Re:I have not figured that one out yet by Software · · Score: 3, Informative

      Why not run the webserver on port 21? So the users have to type http://myserver:21/foo.thml in their browsers - no big deal. Of course, you can't run an FTP service, or use AIM, and your bandwidth still sucks, but it's a start.

  45. blogs are just the text version of The Sims... by Call+Me+Black+Cloud · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...or the Osbournes, or Anna Nicole Smith's show, or...

    You're just sitting around watching (reading about) someone else living his* life. Perhaps the Sims is a little better, as you can direct the action.

    Wouldn't it be great to have a life so good that you didn't have time to read about someone else's, or better yet, publish the details of yours (and your thoughts)?

    Well, it is.

    And no, I'm not being lifeless by writing this because I have to be at my computer now; I'm at work This also means I'm getting paid to write this, so double bonus for me.

    * his is used instead of the incorrect "their" or the annoying "his/her". The author recognizes that women have blogs but has chosen to standardize on "his"

    1. Re:blogs are just the text version of The Sims... by Peyna · · Score: 2

      Do people actually read blogs or do they just write them?

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  46. Re:Blogger runs windows..... by ChazeFroy · · Score: 5, Informative

    My money is that these guys got in with an application-level hack, not an OS/server hack. The biggest fault of applications, especially web applications, is a failure by the programmer to do input validation.

    Apache, perl, and php are vulnerable to the same type of hacks, it's not just Microsoft.

  47. Unless you have 28 years of once daily entries.. by Inoshiro · · Score: 5, Insightful

    MySQL is really overkill for your work. My changelog uses a Perl script which parses my entries into XHTML. It even nicely preserves my double-spaced end-of-sentences (I really crave that whitespace...). I'm starting to see some slugishness from ext3 because I'm over 1,000 entries now, but I'm planning on hashing my entries into a subdir for the year. That'll limit it to 365 entries per directory (give or take a leap year :)), allowing ext3 to serve my needs for years to come.

    A good flat file system lets you reuse the VFS of Linux for smarter caching, and it's easy to NFS or SMB mount it via any machine on my private network. This also means that for someone to compromise my setup and mess with my changelog, they'd also have unrestricted access (pretty much) to my local network, meaning I'd have a whole lot more to worry about than losing my journal entries.

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  48. Er, why not use HTML? by solostring · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Basically, blogs are just online diaries where people sprout off their random synapse charges... so why not just create it in html and upload it to a server.... I'm confused.

    1. Re:Er, why not use HTML? by SmokeSerpent · · Score: 2

      Blogger-style apps take this:

      1) Edit mirrored web page to include new entry.
      2) Move older items to "archive pages"
      3) Connect to FTP server
      4) Upload new version of main page and modified archive pages. Upload new archive pages and set their permissions.
      5) Upload images.

      Into this:

      1) Edit post
      2) click "upload image" or similar button and browse to image
      3) Click "Submit"

      Blogger and pals also automatically create links to an entry that will work whether your post is on the main page or has moved to an archive page. Some provide a simple way to allow readers to comment.

      I could edit source code using pico, but an IDE makes the task a lot easier, comprende?

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      All kings is mostly rapscallions. -Mark Twain, The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn
  49. Well... by Spencerian · · Score: 2

    This certainly just pisses ME off.

    (Why? See below.)

    I've been seriously considering a move to other ways to publish, with Moveable Type and Radio UserLand looking quite nice for support of images and the like (things I can't do from the free Blogger subscription). Now, it looks that I have a much bigger reason.

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  50. What the hell...it's only karma... by Cutriss · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Mark me as troll if you want. I don't give a shit.

    90% of the posts in this thread are all "Holier Than Thou"-type Slashdot posts from fellow geeks that obviously feel some sort of insecurity about their own lives and are thus insulting those that use weblogs.

    I don't use a weblog to achieve an inflated sense of importance or to boost my ego. I use it to keep track of what my friends and I are doing. A year from now, we'll have all graduated college, and it's nice to be able to keep tabs on everyone's day-to-day events...and to continue to do so even when we've gone our separate ways.

    Just because you *think* the Internet is full of 12-year-old girlie bloggers discussing the drab details of their lives doesn't mean it's the truth. And even if it was, who appointed you "critic of all those lowly masses"? Get a life of your own, man...

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    1. Re:What the hell...it's only karma... by talks_to_birds · · Score: 3, Funny
      "...the Internet is full of 12-year-old girlie bloggers discussing the drab details of their lives..."

      Where?

      Where?

      That's just what I'm looking for!

      t_t_b

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    2. Re:What the hell...it's only karma... by syrinx · · Score: 2

      *thank you*. I wish I could mod you back up, you're already marked as troll. But you've hit the nail on the head with that post, and I wish more people would realise it.

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  51. Whew. by limbostar · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm the admin of diary-x. A few months ago, when I was setting up the server into its current configuration, I thought "I should have a mod_rewrite rule that redirects traffic from slashdot away, so that the hordes won't crush my poor server if I should ever get linked."

    I'm glad the rule actually works, I never had a chance to test it out :)

    I should change the message though, the "you look like you could use some sun" comment is probably a bit harsh.

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  52. blogger back up by ntk · · Score: 5, Informative
    Blogger's status page was just updated (1150am-ish PST) to say this:

    We have found the cause of the vulnerability and have patched it. Everything is back restored and back online with the exception of the API server and bSTATS.

  53. An article about webblogging without slashcode? by Traicovn · · Score: 2

    I'm almost appaled at the fact that there is an article about weblogging (ugh, that's like Kroger and their 'krogering'. I dislike that word) without a mention of Slashcode? Of course slashcode has more features and is trickier to use than most people who use blogger probably want to deal with. It's also more geared towards news and discussion sites of course, but I have noticed several /.-ers (CmdrTaco especially) in the past reccomend it whenever they mention weblogging

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  54. There's some clever people with weblogs out there by Kingfox · · Score: 2

    C'mon, even JWZ has a LiveJournal...

  55. Negative comments about weblogs... by Aanallein · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm seeing a lot of negative comments on weblogs out there, and (even though this is slashdot) I'm somewhat confused by them.
    Just because you personally don't find the content of the average weblog interesting, should this really mean weblogs don't have a reason for existing?

    Personally, I'm extremely grateful for weblogs, as they allow a lot more people to communicate, and for me to discover that communication, then would happen before.
    * I read the weblogs of my favorite authors, knowing as one of the first people in the world when they finish the next chapter, decide on a title of the book, but far mroe important, getting all sorts of interesting insights into the creation of the book, into the links to real world events and the reasons for why certain things are what they are - this heightens my appreciation of said books.
    * I read the weblogs of the key people working on developing the next version of my favorite software. A lot of Mozilla (to name one of /.'s favorites) developers for example have weblogs, and if you don't have time to read bonsai, these weblogs are often an easy but effective way to stay up to date on development. And it's more than just software. The weblogs from people in the various W3C working groups, the weblogs from the figureheads in various movements and organizations... All of them can provide fascinating insights into a world you'd otherwise never see anythign from but the end-result.
    * I read the weblogs of various friends and acquaintances I have scattered all over the world. Weblogs are to email what usenet is to mailinglists. Pull, rather than push. I get the information when I want it, adn it still allows me to keep in touch with people I'd otherwise not have time for. Sure, the stories about their cats and dogs are completely irrelevant to 99.999% of the people out there; why would this not be perfectly okay? It matters to them and to the people who matter to them. Nobody's forcing you to read these weblogs... And every now and then one of these people will have something very profound to say, or will have dug up a really interesting piece of information, or came up with a really good joke... And then other people link to that, often in other weblogs, and the information propagates. And that's good too.

    No matter how all of us might feel superior to the average 'blogger', no matter how all of us can whip up a solution that's both more convenient and technologically superior to this "Blogger" in a matter of hours... these are things that don't matter. It's the sharing of ideas, the communication, the links and bonds... that's what matters. Most of it is static, most of it will never be read by anyone. But all of these people maintaining weblogs are part of ... I don't know... of something big. Somethign big like 'the internet', but more efficient. The information is presented in a more coherent fashion. If you've read one weblog, you can easily grasp the way any other weblog works, and for the average person out there, a weblog is a way more efficient way to communicate than the personal homepage as it existed 5 years ago.

    After previewing I pulled almost all links from this comment - if you're really interested in the weblogs of the people I mentioned here, go and search for them...

  56. The word `blog' on LJ? by Kingfox · · Score: 2

    Yeah, never...

  57. LJ by British · · Score: 2

    The answer to your question is LiveJournal. I'd say about 90% of the userbase consists of 19 year old Ani Difranco/Tori Amos trendy bisexual drama queens trashing their ex-boyfriends and looking for sympathy. :)

  58. Re:There's some clever people with weblogs out the by reallocate · · Score: 2

    Yeah, but judging by most posts here, the typical Slashdotter's cognitive abilities stagnated at about the same time that their social skills stopped developing, i.e., about age thirteen. If software doesn't let them play a game or turn their computer into the equivalent of a $75 boom box,they can't see the point. They wouldn't even know how to find, much less deal with, intelligent writing.

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  59. Some do. by CaptainEcchi · · Score: 2, Interesting

    But not many.

    HTML is all I use. I've never thought it was that difficult; what's difficult about writing a little HTML and using FTP? (Of course, I started because I had a school webpage and didn't know how to fill it; a year later someone told me that was a blog). I have a PHP script for comments; though no permalinks or automatic archival or other nice features that don't matter that much to me. I do it this way because I'm a control freak, and I hate having to depend on other people for my blogging.

    But most people whose blogs I read don't go through all this trouble. Is it because they're not technically savvy? Some yes, but some of them run their own servers. These types are usually running MoveableType or B2, though, which run off one's own server/webhost, which gives you a large amount of control over what you do.

    So, I am as confused as you. Basically, I think it's just laziness--it's easier to have everything set up for you (or set it up first, if you're tech savvy and a bit of a control freak) and just type a little and push a button, then to type the HTML and upload the page every time.

    Of course, I've been writing HTML, and by hand, for so long now that I find it difficult to *not* type angle brackets, and have been known to put <p> tags by accident when typing papers or using a BBS, so maybe it's just me.

  60. Pmachine by Fluxcore · · Score: 2, Informative

    If you have your own hosting, and PHP/MySQL then I would suggest using Pmachine. Sets up in 10 minutes and easy as pie to use.

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    I would love to see things from your point of view. But I can't seem to get my head that far up my ass
  61. b2 is great by Artifice_Eternity · · Score: 2

    I'm in the process of setting up a political blog on SubIntSoc.net that uses b2. It's open source and totally customizable. The Cafelog forums contains scripts for dozens of cool hacks created by users.

    Ultimately, "blogging" software is usable for all sorts of purposes. Heck, people use Slashcode for blogging. A "blog" is just a threaded, sequenced posting and/or discussion program. Not all are about people's belly button lint, or whatever.

  62. Try Bloxsom... by dublin · · Score: 2

    I'm looking at using a weblog for process documentation purposes, and have looked at the usual suspects: Movable Type, Grey Matter, etc.

    But the one that really stands out so far as a great mix of power, simplicity, and a wonderfully non-intrusive license is Bloxsom. If you're looking for blog software, check it out.

    It's straight Perl (very small, simple, and streamlined) but offers the most important power features of the others.

    Even better, it fully leverages the underlying power of your OS, web server, or environment/tools - use and leverage whatever editors and text processing tools you like. All in all, a simple, powerful, and elegant solution in a world of bloated, complex, and overengineered alternatives.

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    "The future's good and the present is nothing to sneeze at." - Roblimo's last ./ post
  63. News? by osolemirnix · · Score: 2
    Not sure this is big news, or news that mattered.

    I think its news because of the way blogger.com works (it works pretty stupid IMHO). blogger.com is a centralized approach, you give it an FTP account and password to your web folder on your machine and it generates the HTML for you.

    This has the obvious advantage that simple web space will do for your, you don't need PHP MySQL, etc., all the code runs at blogger.com, it generates your (static) pages at its servers.

    The downside is that you have to give them an account and password which makes them very attractive to crackers (I'm surprised it took so long). That's why I would never use blogger. And that's why it's news I guess.

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    Idempotent operation: Like MS software, wether you run it once or often, that doesn't make it any better.