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Moving Your Kids to Linux?

telecaster asks: "My kids are aged 11, 7 and 3. All of them are computer savvy. They use the computer for basically three things: Games, writing papers and chatting with friends, as well as browsing sites that are frequented by children their age (Nick, Cartoon Network, How Things Work, Yahoo!Kids, and others). All of this is supervised and watched by my wife and I -- we don't use any parental filters since we've found they just don't work, and it's just better to keep a watchful eye anyway. I would like to move them off Windows XP and introduce them to something less expensive (free) and more reliable. I'm rebooting this machine probably four and five times a week, not to mention the forever problem of lockups and hangs which seem to happen during the times where the 3 year-old is using the machine. I know the crashes are mainly due to the older games that the kids play which are not totally compatible with XP, but hey, they USED to run just fine under Windows98."

"My real motivation to do this is to save money and to teach my children that sometimes the best isn't always the most expensive. Also, being the cheap bastard that I am, I'm looking at all the money we've spent on Windows XP, Office and all the games over the years, and I'm wondering if there isn't a way to slowly supplant Linux into the mix and not sacrifice my children's computer experience but at the same time save some money and teach them something new.

My requirements are simple: I would like them to run their CD-ROM based games (which are mostly Director based games from Hasbro), and I would still like them to chat with their friends and also be able to play online Flash and Shockwave based games from Yahoo and Shockwave.

I believe I'm looking at an OpenOffice situation to replace Office, I suppose that would be fine and I think would work out (they aren't required to have perfect Word compatibility, its basically type a paper, and print it). For chat we're probably OK too, because something like GAIM would be fine -- Jabber based things would also be cool.

But my real concern is the CD-ROM games and Windows based games. I can't see my 3 year-old putting a CD-ROM into the drive and expecting it to auto-load and run like it does on XP -- without issues -- even with a perfect installation of WINE, hey, maybe I'm wrong, but is there a way to have it work as good as windows?

I've thought about loading up Mandrake and getting WINE working to see if it'll work out, but I'm not sure that I should waste my time, so I thought I'd ask some readers here if they're run into this situation and if I'm just crazy for thinking that this would be the wise thing to do at the expense of my children's computing experience."

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  1. New math by sxltrex · · Score: 5, Funny

    My kids are aged 11, 7 and 3. All of them are computer savvy. They use the computer for basically three things: Games, writing papers and chatting with friends, as well as browsing sites that are frequented by children their age...

    The new math?

    1. Re:New math by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      It takes a real geek to plan on having his children all have ages that are prime numbers at the same time.

    2. Re:New math by Arthur+Dent · · Score: 2, Funny

      Nobody expects the Spanish inquisition... :)

    3. Re:New math by kkith · · Score: 2, Funny

      It takes a real geek to plan on having his children all have ages that are prime numbers at the same time.

      and it takes another real geek to notice.

  2. CLI is good for kids by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Hell, just let them learn how to use the CLI

    GUIs, never needed them when I was a little one!

  3. Math quiz by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    His kids are aged 11, 7 and 3.
    Prove that they will never all have prime number ages at the same time again.

  4. Re:Here's an idea... by jdera · · Score: 3, Funny

    One day I will have a child. I shall raise him (please be a him) on computer technology from birth. He will be the Mozart of computing... mwhaahahahahahaha!

  5. Old problem, new twist. by Kenja · · Score: 5, Funny

    This is reminiscent of the old platonic girl friend problem. You know, when you're friends with a girl you really like and they claim to need to find a guy that's just like you but not you. In this case you want an OS that's just like Windows but not Windows. Based on the analogy I've provided the best I can suggest is that you give up.

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    1. Re:Old problem, new twist. by msheppard · · Score: 5, Funny

      You got the whole platonic girlfriend/operating system anaology backwards. He want's an operating system that WON'T go down on him every day.

      M@

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    2. Re:Old problem, new twist. by Mika_Lindman · · Score: 4, Funny

      You know, when you're friends with a girl you really like and they claim to need to find a guy that's just like you but not you.

      What she really means, is that she's looking for a guy just like you, but with tattoos, long hair and a motorcycle.

  6. No parental filters; the kids get the vt100 by ChaosMt · · Score: 4, Funny

    Ah yes son, you get to learn the way I did - only then will you truely learn to love cut & paste.

  7. Dear Slashdot, by 3-State+Bit · · Score: 5, Funny

    I just received the happy news that my wife is two weeks pregnant. I will be a father for the first time, and I have 8.5 months to prepare for it.

    My question is: What distro would you recommend for a new-born? Does anyone here have experience teaching unix administration to infants?

    A follow-up question:

    I generally spend my time on the command line, but I could see how it might be a difficult concept for a child to grasp in its first few years, especially while its motor controls are still developing. (i.e. no touch-typing yet).
    I guess I'd be willing to load down the old box with a gui, but the question is, which one?
    I'm thinking KDE 3.0., but is there maybe a more lightweight desktop that could be more intuitive for a young child? Remember, it won't be able to read menu items for a few years, so an intuitive graphical interface is very important.

    Any thoughts are welcome.

  8. Re:my kids by KarmaBitch · · Score: 5, Funny
    learning how to type using emacs
    Man.. I knew kids were smart but, 8 years old and knows how to work emacs?
    I might as well file for unemployment now... I still can't figure out how to work that damn thing :-D
  9. No, no, no, you've got it all backwards... by sootman · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...start them on Windows now, so when they're in their teens and start rebelling, they'll move towards linux...

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  10. absolutely yes - my evil plan by HealYourChurchWebSit · · Score: 5, Funny



    Not only do I want to move my 2.9 year old daughter onto Linux, but I've told her that immediately after potty training, she is to learn a high level language, or at least SQL. She should also be able to install releases such as Mandrake and Lycoris.

    Then in a few years, I fully expect her to be able to handle Java and .NET. She should also know how to deal with various engines within the Apache server such as mod_rewrite.

    By the time she's 13 or 14, she should have assembler under belt. With this knowledge, she can and should be able to write device drivers.

    On my side, my goal is to find a job telecommuting, while 'home-schooling' the kid - who's computer science assignments will be doing my work for me so I can pursue the life of leasure I so richly enjoy.

    And if you believe all that, I've got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you ... low mileage, honest.

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  11. I dont think you'll have any problem by mary_will_grow · · Score: 3, Funny

    My kids are aged 11, 7 and 3. All of them are computer savvy. They use the computer for basically three things: Games, writing papers and chatting with friends, as well as browsing sites that are frequented by children their age

    Boy, I couldnt even *read* at 3!!!!
    I think you should be less worried about linux migration and more worried about your 3 year old taking over the world!

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  12. I tried to install Linux on my son by sulli · · Score: 5, Funny

    but he kept chewing up and spitting out the CDs. Didn't work very well.

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  13. Command line is fine for a toddler... by stefanlasiewski · · Score: 5, Funny

    I generally spend my time on the command line, but I could see how it might be a difficult concept for a child to grasp in its first few years, especially while its motor controls are still developing. (i.e. no touch-typing yet).

    Hey don't worry about it.

    It may look like your 1 year old is pounding random sets of keys with her tiny fists, but she's really just typing Emacs key-sequences...

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  14. Easy migration to Linux... by Junior+J.+Junior+III · · Score: 5, Funny

    Tell the 11 year old that he's absolutely, expressly forbidden to install Linux on your computer. If you're not fully migrated by the time he's 13, consider searching under his bed for a hidden Linux box...

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  15. Re:Here's an idea... by Xformer · · Score: 4, Funny

    Just make sure (s)he isn't learning with Windows at that age...

    BOO SKEEN!!! *cries*

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  16. Re:Here's an idea... by GigsVT · · Score: 2, Funny

    by the time i hit kindergarden i was already at a 2nd rgade level.

    Good thing too, looks like your writing skills haven't progressed much since then.

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  17. Re:Here's an idea... by SnAzBaZ · · Score: 3, Funny

    Nah, this guy was probably just thinking "What anti-windows ramblings could I make up that would get me posted on slashdot?".

  18. The *Talk* - Circa: 2015 by scott1853 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Father: Johnny, I think it's time we had a little talk. I know your friends are talking a lot about new experiences they've had, and you may be having some urges to try them yourself. I just want you to know that it's completely natural and I'll answer any questions you may have.

    Johnny: Well Dad... I was thinking... well I was going to... make my system dual-boot.

    Father: Listen, I know it's tempting. When I was young that's something everybody did, because we didn't know any better. That was a naive time for the computer literate. People experimented with overclocking and case-modding, back before we knew how destructive it was. Now we have more information about that kind of thing and I don't want you to make the same mistakes I did.

    Johnny: Ok Dad, I won't do it. Can I date girls though?

    Father: Maybe we should have another talk, about computers and how girls feel about people that use them...

  19. Re:Flash 6 for Linux by aridhol · · Score: 3, Funny
    Flash 6 is currently in beta for Linux, and is finally equivalent to the Windows and MacOS plugins.
    You're saying that the Windows plugin is beta quality?
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  20. Re:my kids by biohazard99 · · Score: 4, Funny

    You really should have your kid taken away for exposing him to OS/2. Next thing you know, they'll be running BE, VMS, or God forbid, GNU/HURD.

  21. This guy's family portrait by vasqzr · · Score: 3, Funny


    If he starts his kids using linux, this is what his family portraits will look like!

    The Linux Bunch

  22. Re:Here's an idea... by VivianC · · Score: 5, Funny

    My two year old learned how to reboot when she was only 14 months. Guess that means she has mastered Windows....

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  23. My kids: Java or C++? by rednaxel · · Score: 2, Funny

    I have two little girls, 7 and 4. They use both Linux and Windows, and now I think it is time to teach them (well, at least the older) some programming skills. Logo was the first thing that came to mind, but hey, it's not for the real world! I would like to ask to my fellow /.ers: what language should she learn?. Should it be Java or C++? Maybe Perl or PHP?

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  24. Child labor by vizualizr · · Score: 3, Funny

    I consistently find myself wishing I had some other computer monkeys to help me with some of the menial tasks that my work requires .. .the "making license plates" that does so little for me.

    Thankfully, I have a very impregnable wife - she's cranked out two little computer monkeys for me so far - they're 3 and 1, and I figure that within a year or so, I can have them building 3D objects for me, doing the random photoshop cleanup to my texture maps, and generally taking workload off of me so I can spend more of my workday doing what God intended people to do during the workday - play games!!

    Oops . .gotta run . .. need to go explain NURBS curves to the 3 year old . . .they grow up so fast . . .*SNIFFLE*

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  25. Been there by macemoneta · · Score: 3, Funny
    I converted my two nephews systems to Linux. Their major complaint was that they couldn't figure out how to install games (even Linux games) by themselves. I figured that was a good thing considering their age (11 and 6).

    It's just something that you have to be prepared for, if you go down this path.

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  26. Re:http://www.linuxforkids.org/ by caluml · · Score: 3, Funny

    My 2 kids (2 and 4), my wife and mom (65yrs old)...

    Is he saying his wife is his mother, and she's 65 years old?!

  27. Re:Here's an idea... by mrpuffypants · · Score: 3, Funny

    hehe, ok i'll laugh at my own fast typing and desire for inaccuracy

    but consider this war! =]

  28. Re:Programming by yuri+benjamin · · Score: 3, Funny

    My first useful program was:

    10 for i=1 to 500
    20 lprint "I will not whatever naughty thing I did - can't remember what"
    30 next

    I had been told to write 500 lines as a punishment homework and I asked if I could type it.
    The teacher said I could.

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  29. Re:Programming by yuri+benjamin · · Score: 2, Funny

    BTW - my parents were actually so proud of my ingenuity they forgot I'd been naughty at school.

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