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Palm OS Powered Tattooing Robot Debuts in Vienna
Makarand writes "Ananova has an article on the world's first tattooing robot.
An Austrian electrician, after being left with some permanent reminders
of his tattooing robot project, has unveiled his creation at a hi-tech
fair in Vienna.
He said that he had to test it on himself to get the robot do the right
thing and has not recieved any complaints from volunteers who got a tattoo
for free at the trade fair."
Who didn't predict that robots would eventually take over art as well as everything else? Next thing you know there'll be street robots doing oil paintings for cash.
Who would want to tatoo a robot?
If Mr. Edison had thought smarter he wouldn't sweat as much. --Nikola Tesla
The robot part is cool but the tattoo looks like an etch-a-sketch design.
Will those tatoos be in 15 or 16 bit colour? ;)
First of it looks like a painless procedure from the photograph.
Maybe MS should hookup electrodes to the developers and shock them everytime there is a big security whole! ;-P
This SIG pulled due to lack of funding. (This damn war is costing too much!)
Is it just me, or does that tattoo look really bad? It looks like something a little kid would draw on some paper, why would somebody want that on their body for the rest of their lives??
magnanomous.
(i don't know about everyone else, but my graffiti skills are functional only...not pretty! ;) ;)
Freddy's computerised brain has a complicated programme for creating the designs that are constantly being improved and redesigned
what would be really cool would be if the thing could run off of a more complex image, multiple needles and colors. Then you'd actually have something worthwhile...,you could do your designs on a PC, take your time, get it right, and then download it to the palm!
BTW, my next tattoo is going to be color, not greyscale.
So is the robot gruff, look like a biker and makes fun of your tattoo choice as well as laugh when you scream?
Be you Admins? nay, we are but lusers!
A Sadistic PalmOS powered Etcha Sketch! This really is a bit of a leg-puller isn't it?
I mean, a guy with the genius(?) to come up with a robot like this, doesn't have brains enough to do the development and testing on a leg of lamb first??
"I haven't had any complaints yet." said Mr Passath.
Yes, thats because all your customers are lying on the floor with severed arteries.
"Note to self: Must write limb-diameter-compensation algorhythm....."
Ripping an new rectum in the fabric of spacetime.
It would go something like this.
First write in your design...ok
(I draw a dragon or something and then press whatever button)
now tattooing....done
Look at tattoo and see that it says,
"1) pick up kids
2) pay bills
3) apt. with proctologist"
oh, no!
i've been telling a lot of people as of late that my software project is just plain painful.
;-P
i stand corrected. this is a REAL painful software project. what kind of version tracking does it employ? does it write something like version 0.82 in the corner of each tattoo with each build?
so does then does this guy have like 82 different beta tests on his arms/ elsewhere? what exactly does a buffer overflow/ divide by zero crash in tattoo form FEEL like? insert your own joke here.
nevermind, i don't want to know.
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Just in case anyone is interested in purchasing one of these you may find this useful.
ERR01 - "EAGLE? I thought you said BEAGLE."
ERR02 - "We're all out of red, so I used pink."
ERR03 - "There are 2 O's in Bob, right?"
ERR04 - "Sorry, sir, your chest will only hold the bottle dinghy."
ERR05 - "SEGFAULT"
ERR06 - "Anything else you want to say? You've got plenty of room back here."
ERR07 - "I'll bet you can't tell I've never done this before."
ERR08 - "The flag's all done and, you know, the folds of fat make a nice waving effect."
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It frees up an artists time to concentrate on the hot chick tattoo on the crotch patients, while leaving a FSB (fat sweaty bastard) in the back room with the machine.
" are you done in there ? "
I wonder if the resolution on a Palm Pilot is high enough to do
some serious tattooing. But the real win would be full colour
tattoos. I have to wonder about precision though (just look at
the picture, the Palm screen differs form the tattoo on the arm)
I do not see any form of feedback. Since the skin has moving
muscles underneath it, I think feedback is necessary to keep a
tattoo consistent. Just imagine tattooing a big circle, start at
the top and go clockwise. Will there be a (perfect) circle or
will it be a C line shape or spiral? I would not give my right
arm for it to be a perfect circle... Would you?
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I'd hate to get a tattoo of a blue screen of death on my ass!
The quastion is, do you want an original hand made one, or a printout, permanently etched into your skin.
Government of the people, by corporate executives, for corporate profits.
Printer ink cartridge empty. Using secondary output; tattoo device.
Look a monkey!
Mr Passath said: "It was a hard job because the only person I could test it on was myself which was painful but a good incentive to get it right as soon as possible.
You have to wonder, Mr Passath is clever enough to design a tattooing robot, but why is he not clever enough to test it with a pen, transparent ink, or on soaked leather? I am not a tattoo specialist but this would work too, would it not?
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How generous! They always give out the samples for free. And how much does the robotic tattoo remover cost? (See Dr. Seuss, The Sneetches .)
Who the heck volunteers for these things? No matter how confident you are in a complete stranger covered with screwed-up tattoos in a booth, do you know tattoos are murder to get rid of? I guess the risk looks pretty small compared to a robotic vasectomy or X-piercing machine, powered by an OS popularly associated with corrupted address books.
And while you're here, we need some volunteers to test the experimental anthrax vaccine... No, it's OK, 3 out of 4 sheep live to say it's da bomb.
Does anyone else disbelieve every single story they read on Ananova? Just wondering. As far as I can tell they're one step up from the Weekly World News.
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Can someone tell me why this is under 'Toys'? Do people get tattoos when they're bored, or just for fun, or use this gadget frequently?
Ya, just think how many more men we could have had on the Eastern front if we had one of these in '39.
Except this one, which will eventually be +5, Insightful.
Right now it's -1, but that's just because some asshole moderator's got his head up his rectum.
This is really something I would need on the road.
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At least, I really hope so...
It's probably the only comment in the whole thread that makes sense. And it's not just meta - it says something about the story, albeit indirectly.
Browse at +5 and see for yourself. Fuckers.
now has "hello, world!" tattooed onto his arm?
Or you get a bunch of gibberish
that quickly covers you entire body.
You realize that you forgot to install the Postscript module.
Luckily he made this machine big enough to fit on my penis.
Read about and see the pix of my painful meeting with the machine here.
(Yes, I am Jamaican, mon.)
The the only movie I can remember with a robot tattooing someone is "Starship Trooper" - any other examples?
And tatoos the Palm logo on your butt...
I stick to walls...
And I don't see much of a future for this.
I mean its a cool piece of work (I'm an AIBO owner and love stuff like this) but in the end Tattooing is more art than science, and I'm not sure the Robot can sub for the Artist, except in a purely mechanical way.
Where the Robot might be useful is covering in large areas of skin with single colours (back, stomach, etc), but I don't see much capability here for detail work. And its not clear to me how the Robot handles blood - a human artist will wipe it away, restablish boundaries (i.e., check progress against finished design) and continue tattooing. If the Robot doesn't do this you're gonna be one bloody camper - litterally dripping! - by the time its over.
Its not clear to me how the Robot determines depth. By this I mean how deep the needle is penetrating. If your Artist (human or Robot) doens't go deep enough, your growing skin will just push the design out as new cells form under the ink. Driving the needle too deep is another set of problems - potentially severe - as well.
How will the Robot handle different skin? Everyones skin is different and absorbs ink differently. This is really a judgement call on the artists part - different coloured ink looks different on different peoples skin. You just can't use a bottle of RED and assume it will look the same on any two people because it won't. A good artist will adapt to this problem, both in real time (i.e., while the work is being done) and before the work begins.
Also, don't forget that more complex 'Tats typically take multiple sessions, so you'll have a calibration problem next time you visit (i.e., aligning the machine and the existing 'Tat).
Its not uncommon for some back pieces to take months if not years, involving dozens of sessions so these registration problems are potentially major.
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When you got to a tattoo shop and say I want this tattoo the artist makes it and puts a bit of their style into it and it comes out unique to you. This robot will probably create the exact same tattoo for everyone that picks one out of a book.
I was wondering how permanent this tatoo would be. After a careful study of the picture he is IMHO using a BIC pen to do the tatoo.
Ech Nyh!
Both would leave you marked for life!
Neither, I would choose sex with your mom!
DO you think the Pocket PC would require activation (taking a small blood sample) before applying the tattoo?
'...appears to do its work with uniform regularity. As it quivers, its points pierce the skin of the body which is itself quivering from the vibration of the Bed. So that the actual progress of the sentence can be watched, the Harrow is made of glass. Getting the needles fixed in the glass was a technical problem, but after many experiments we overcame the difficulty. No trouble was too great for us to take, you see. And now anyone can look through the glass and watch the inscription taking form on the body. Wouldn't you care to come a little nearer and have a look at the needles?'
The explorer got up slowly, walked across, and bent over the Harrow. 'You see,' said the officer, 'there are two kinds of needles arranged in multiple patterns. Each long needle has a short one beside it. The long needle does the writing, and the short needle sprays a jet of water to wash away the blood and keep the inscription clear. Blood and water together are then conducted here through small runnels into this main runnel and down a waste pipe into the pit.'
(excerpted from In The Penal Colony, Franz Kafka, 1919)It looks just like the little picture on the Palm. Perhaps he should draw better. It's not like the Robot made the original design.
"Would it kill you to put down the toilet seat?" -- Maya Angelou
I suspect that the eventual use for this tech might be more along the lines of tattooing livestock etc, not people. I have no idea if livestock are tattooed for any reason (is branding still used?) but if you had to put tracking #'s on a large number of cows this might be the fastest way to do it. Needless to say, and at the risk of peripherally invoking Godwin's Law, I really hope nobody ever again wants to put tracking #'s on large numbers of people :-(
Freedom: "I won't!"
Somebody hooked up a plotter to a PalmPilot and used a tatooing needle for a pen. Just what the world needs.
In mathematics, one does not understand things, one merely gets used to them.
--VonNeumann
Please "received" not "recieved".
The system is only capable of tattooing arms, what about people who wish to have a big dragon tattooed on their chest? Or a large skull on their back?? What about MOM with an anchor on their ass???
One future, two choices. Oppose them or let them destroy us.
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draw pick [ snake eating rat [ "born to fight dinosaurs till jesus comes back or I die" ][ puppies ][ motorcycle with flames shaped like satan ]
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(nods to Steve Purcell)
Keep your packets off my GNU/Girlfriend!
Will someone please start a sourceforge project to get this ported to Windows? I can't wait to see people with BSOD permanently displayed on their bodies.
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'da pain, da pain'
Creationists are a lot like zombies. Slow, but powerful and numerous. And they all want to eat our brains.
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--- What parts of "shall make no law", "shall not be infringed", and "shall not be violated" don't you understand?
Of course it will also "print" out a EULA as well.
You seem to assume my mother is not a mare. Why is that?
He missed a big market for people wanting to get the DeCSS code tattooed on them.. I'd like to see a collection of ThinkGeekish one-liners or icons..
/bin/laden..
the I/O power button right over your heart..
chmod +x
"tattoo" in binary..
WTF?
STFU
the LNX or MP3 oval sticker
foo on one arm and bar on the other (or knuckles like jake & elwood)..
Intelligent Life on Earth
I used "-" for ones and "o" for zeroes, it is my last name "york" minus the "y", (my friends call me "ork" for some reason) so anyay it looks like this o--o----o---oo-oo--o-o-- and is situated vertically on my left arm. Here is a Picture (i didnt want to show the picture hosted on my dsl modem, just in case)
I had this idea two months ago... PROOF!
Can I sue for prior art or somesuch?
Maybe I'll get this robot to do my next full body tattoo-- the EULA.
First off, the Palm based idea is great for a quick, "gee that's cool," but once I saw the tatoo I was compelled to agree with a previous poster that it looks like child scribble. Throw in the notion that you can't pick the tatoo that will be on your body for ever and this quickly loses its wow-factor. While this is a good step in the direction of computer assisted tatooing (CAT?) it seems like there would be a better way of doing this.
I'm sure you are all familliar with monogram setups. A simple desktop computer with some software can run a device used to monogram full multicolor designs on shirts and hats. Import an image, hit a couple of buttons and you have your business logo on your shirt. Why can't something like this be applied to tatooing? Using multiple needles (one for each color) and a scanner, the customer could get whatever design they want. If they didn't like the library of images on the computer, just scan in your custom picture.
Sure there would be some nuances to work out, but if this guy can get a Palm to do it....
I planned on inserting something witty here but never got around to it.
read the article stupid
I guess it's time for those production-line barcode tattoos to become commonplace, eh?
Did anyone read it, Kafka's http://www-ec.njit.edu/~pro3/NJIT/Options/Opt-S'98 Camp/Kafka/Kafka-00.html ?
What a convenient tool for bar coding or worse. Low tech ID cards for prisons? police states?
Ok, to qualify this... I would not let this particular little robot tattoo me, simply because it is far too primitive (I mean a 320x240 resolution?... uhhh, no thanks I'll pass)
..... Oh man I need to lay down...
Now the merits of this idea, since this thing is a robot you will never have to worry about it getting drunk and fscking up your tattoo. It is capable of working very quickly, think about getting a tattoo that would normally take hours to do in only a few minutes (This would be ideal for those who don't care for pain as much as some people seem to)
The tattoo will not just be a duplicate copy as you could write the software to randomly modify a few small factors such as particular color shades and small design elements to continue to have the one of a kind feel to the tattoo. I would most likely choose to use this with adobe Photoshop.
Ok, how would this be done? I have a few ideas as to the particulars. This guy has already created an interface between the robotic mechanism and the command unit (palm in this case) so changing out the command interface shouldn't really be a big deal, I would hook up something like a 1.8 Ghz desktop to this thing (if portability was a concern use a laptop). For the software end of things I would choose to use Adobe Photoshop as that way only four passes would be necessary to render a full color tattoo (CYMK) using Photoshop to separate the color channels.
And now for Johnny Carson's top ten reasons to have a robot do your tattoo...
1. It won't try to steal money from your wallet when you pass out from the pain.
2. It doesn't smell like camel cigarettes and cheap whiskey.
3. You won't have to listen to it tell really bad stories.
4. Yeah the equipment was sterilized, but when was the last time the artist was bathed?
5. The robot will never puke on you in the middle of a tattoo.
6. You can be sure the robot isn't going to try to get you drunk and take you home for a wild night of tattoos, sex, and odd things done with barnyard animals.
7. Who wants a tattoo to take four hours, this baby can do them in four minutes.
8. No bad breath in your face.
9. I'm pretty sure the robot doesn't do cocaine...
10. The robot will not be giving your girlfriend lewd looks while working on your tattoo and making fun of you when you scream, and telling you your a pansy ass bitch, and asking her why she would stay with a bitch, and it won't ask her if she wants a real robot, and
heh, I guess this does have some advantages... If only it was a bit more advanced (although not "bender" advanced)
(leaves rest to reader's imagination)
The skript kiddies of the 00's:
I hax0r3d your tat00 mAc|-|in3!!!
Talk about a lingering reminder of a break-in.
May we never see th
Personnally, I would not trust something that has this little power. Build me a tattoo gun running on an 8 way Xeon setup, then I might think about it.
Listen to my experimental-industrial-techno!
Some kind of head mounted Palm tattoo machine?
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Whats so sad about being financially independent?
Or living in Europe?
I've emailed The Big M and he seems ok - willing to share information and pretty generous with his time.
Whats sad here is someone who insults anonymously.
So what *your* problem?
This should be in the "things that never should have been invented" category.
Link with loads of pictures for you
ok, all penal colony's aside, i feel this could be a very prominent step in robotic surgery. with the advances being made both in medicine and robotics, i feel that one day surgeries could be performed with similar robots, differently equipped, of course. all we have to figure out now is how not to kill the person and automatically dump their body into a ditch.
Cogito Eggo Sum, I think therefore I'm a waffle
...and former body piercer ( as well as being a computer science major and sysadmin, just for background ), i don't think this thing has a chance in hell. As it currently exists, the quality is shoddy compared to the level of competency I expect from a professional tattoo artist. I'm sure that if money were thrown into it, a better tattoo robot could be built, but it would only be good for flash ( off the wall, FYI ) pieces, and even then, it would lack the creative touches that make even a flash tattoo memorable. A lot of people get custom tattoos ( most of mine are ) that will never be worn by anyone else, so the overhead to draw the sketch, then input it to a program to set the robot ( or program the robot yourself ) is prohibitive. The body modification scene puts a heavy emphasis on art and style, and I don't see any shop owners running out to buy one of these.
I wouldn't get a tattoo by a robot. I'm a total technofetishist, but I would miss the human interaction. I pick certain artists for their style of doing things. Someone really has to be into the style of the tattoo for me to get the work done. No machine can duplicate that.
Now, for the police state implications, hell, they could have already invented it, but I think that's going to far, and even the people who accept ( largely through ignorance ) the post-911 shenanigans of the government agencies and police would balk at this. It's too sinister. If they could pull it off, they undoubtedly would have done so already.
Just my $0.02.
PC moderators can suck my White pierced, tattooed dick. If you think pride == hate, s/dick/Aryan meat mallet/g.
is that what you think tattooists' are really like?
Gratuitous cut and paste
Kearny: "Jimbo, take a note on your Newton: Beat Up Martin!"
(Jimbo writes the note on his Newton and reads it back)
Jimbo: "Eat Up Martha? Bah!"
(Jimbo throws Newton away)
is that what you think tattooists' are really like?
Shit, I forgot the tags for the painfully serious among the bunch...
Sorry everyone.
Never been tattooed, have you?
He has been left with some permanent reminders of the project with some erratic early tattooing attempts.
How hard would it have been to not use a real needle for the initial tests? Replace the needle with the head of a Sharpie and voila, indelible yet non-disfiguring marks.
Some people will be getting tattoos that read, "An exception has occured in Kernel32.dll" or a flying Windows flag logo.
War crimes, torture, lies, illegal spying... Would someone give Bush a blowjob, already, so he can be impeached?
Reminds me of In the Penal Colony.
I have visions of my PDA crying out "The Plane boss!, the plane!!!"
Or "the pain boss!!, the pain"
RIP Herve
Burma?
You shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor tattoo any marks on you: I am the LORD. Lev 19.28
I guess Jamiroquai was right.
One thing to consider is that because almost all tattooists learn through apprenticeships (which are expensive, time-consuming, often humiliating, and in very high demand), there is a built-in quality control mechanism which weeds out the vast majority of the sleaze that people seem to think constitute the tattooist population.
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The real challenge would be finding the body space to run off the "Windows Printer Test Page"
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