FBI To Use Ad Banners to Find Criminals
PhuptDuck writes "Federal authorities are pursuing fugitive crime boss James 'Whitey' Bulger in cyber space under a first-of-its kind agreement announced Wednesday between the FBI and Web portal Terra-Lycos. With a presence in 42 countries and in 19 languages, Terra Lycos is known for the worldwide scope of its Web presence."
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I know I sure don't. I have most of them blocked, anyway.
What's next, the government spamming us with wanted posters and ASCII pictures? Why don't they invest money in a medium which people actually pay attention to? See: Television Advertisements.
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Now ad blocking is no longer just stealing, it's a violation of the good samaritan law. ;)
Well, first we must all be happy that web advertisement might do some good.
People all over the world use Lycos. No matter where someone is, there will probably be someone near by who uses the internet. By making it as easy to report to the FBI as clicking a button, they should get results. Since it's over the internet, the reporter may feel more anonymous sending in a report.
The downside would be false reports. There will probably be more false FBI criminal sitings then elvis sitings...
"''It might simply be a clerk in a grocery store bagging groceries, goes home that night, gets on the Internet and says, 'you know, I think I saw that person bagging groceries today,''' U.S. Attorney Michael Sullivan said during a news conference in Boston on Wednesday morning. "
Why would someone who is wanted for 21 murders be bagging groceries?
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Heaven help you if your email address happens to begin with 'jbulger@' and you don't know enough to protect your cookies from being read by web bugs or your machine from spyware apps.
No, of course the FBI wouldn't stoop this far. Homeland security is completely benevolent and the United States is not... despite all appearances... turning into a police state controlled by wealthy resource and media industries.
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The FBI doesn't want to find Bulger (his testimony would be too embarrasing), so they are posting wanted ads in a medium (web banner ads) that is known not to work.
It all makes sense.
So they're buying Wanted posters which has been done a million times before - what's the big deal - it's digital? ooh, it's the net! It only makes sense - more eyes, more chances to catch someone... But I've seen legitimate Have You Seen This Person? type ads on the net, so why not Wanted Dead or Alive ads?
I have to say that as I trawl the web, I have simply stopped looking at ad banners. I get the general shape, peripherially notice some flashing or wahtever, and I ignore it.
/. topic icon, I'd see it then...
Perhaps the FBI should use the dude's mug shot as a
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Boy, I totally misread that. I'll RTFA next time, I promise.
From the headline, I thought that the FBI was attempting to track criminals through the use of banner ads (i.e. use something embedded in the ads to track those who view them). Although it seems like a very hard thing to pull off - how would you track a criminal with the data you'd collect anyway?
And then I thought about the recent article Because Only Terrorists User 802.11 and got very worried about my ability to block popups via Mozilla or hosts.deny. I was afraid of the headline "Because Only Criminals and Terrorists Block Popup Ads to Avoid Detection".
Oh well, thank god the article clarified that. The article states that the FBI will basically putting up wanted posters as ads to help find the criminal they're after. That, I don't have a problem with.
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RTFA applies here. If you had read it, you would have noticed this bit:
Terra-Lycos spokesman Brian Payea said the company wasn't being paid for the service. ''We're committed to providing important services to our community and we feel it was a very worthwhile effort,'' he said.
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Just wait until the FBI starts talking about how "Blocking ads support terrorism"
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OK, OK, I know that the lead-in blurb was a little misleading, but come on, people.
1) The FBI is not using cookies to hunt down the suspect.
2) The FBI isn't paying for the banners.
3) Prof^H^H^H^H The "clerk" example in the article is *not* the suspect, but rather someone who might have seen the suspect.
Somehow, I think that G. Cooke, Tx, would give this whole set of threads a very poor review...
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An angle that entered my mind:
The website owner might say theft, but if you block the ad that you wouldn't actually buy from anyways - aren't you saving money for the advertiser to advertise to somebody that might be interested?
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from the other-than-causing-epilepsy dept.
What's really interesting about this isn't that the FBI is using banner ads, but rather why they have to...
The guy they're seeking, #10 on the most wanted list, and suspected of 21 murders, is the brother of the president of the University of Massachusetts, who just plead the 5th to keep his dear brother safe.
Bulgar takes the fifth
Great to see the head of an institute of learning take such a principled stand. Not.
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Given that Bulger looks like most other balding white men in their 50s, the FBI may get thousands of false leads now. I also feel sorry for American expatriates living in Latin America, who will be faced with having to "prove" they aren't a fugitive.
Bulger, if he's smart (which is probably is), would have radically altered his appearance so that he no longer resembles the wanted poster.
All a criminal investigator really can do is sit back, be patient, and wait for the criminal to make a mistake. If Bulger ever calls his brother or an old friend or girlfriend on Christmas, for example, he's busted.
This wanted poster thing smacks of desperation on the FBI's part, which I'm sorry to see.
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eat, and where else would a person on the run who can't use a legal SS# or identity work, but a low end job, no offense to any retail clerks out there, I was one during school too.
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Wonder if we could write this guy in on the NHL all star ballot
errr....umm...*whooosh* *whoosh* Is this thing on ?
1) Figure out how you can hack into Lycos' criminal database and replace pictures of FBI Most Wanted criminals.
2) Advertise services to underworld.
3) ????
4) Profit!
Lycos is a Boston based company. Their offices are on Totten Pond Rd. in Waltham, MA, just outside of Boston.
If you block web advertisements, you are a terrorist.
In the article, it states that Lycos isn't being paid for this - sure, that's probably because this is a trial of the idea, but going forward this is a pretty cheap way to get the word out...
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I look at Banner Adds and if it is something I am instered in then I will click on it. I much rather have banner adds on the top of the page then having PopUps and Spam. So even if the PopUp was interesting I would not buy or click on it. But Click on those Banner Adds and make the point that Banner Adds are profitable and worth While compared to Popups and Spam. But for The most wanted it is a good way to keep the information available and make a person think. Hey let me check this picture out. And perhaps help take a dangerous person off the streets.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
Of course not. Everryone knows that donuts work better. Mmmm, Donuts!
The solution is obvious.
FBI purchases $5 million worth of X10 wireless cams to use in the hunt for Whitey. This way, we see fewer Ads, X10 sells some cameras (other than for use as a wireless choo-choo cam), and the FBI comes closer to thinking they are gonna nab bulger.
Wow, I can just imagine these ads spreading from busting a mob leader to fighting terror. If they can't trick us into clicking, they will implicate us instead!!
"You're either with us, or against us. You're either clicking on Banner Ads, or you're clicking on terrorism. To block pop-ups is to block our crusade on evil"
Why does this remind me of minority report?
13 year old white supremacists are shitty web designers.
Granted: Most of us don't directly look at the banners at all. But you always take a quick glance at them. Why not use the same idea to find missing children?
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1. Nobody looks at these ads. Pop-ups, maybe.
2. They'd have better luck putting posters in every Dunkin Donuts from Saugus to Ptown (the day he made the most wanted the gal at the Bourne DD's swore to us that he was in there that very morning)
3. The only one who could safely turn him in is his own brother (high profile, public figure) and he won't, so this really is a wild goose chase.
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Hmm, how about if they make a 'Wanted' banner with Amelia Earhart and Jimmy Hoffa? I'd love to hear from the 'clerk' that notices one of them is getting groceries... :-)
Then there's always Bigfoot, Nessie, et al.
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The thing to remember is, this is not an ad for something, it's a wanted poster. And while people have become adept at ignoring banners, they're still there and people still see them. They're just not clicking on them, which is not that surprising since you'll probably see hundreds per day.
I'll bet you WOULD notice and pay attention if a picture of someone you knew popped up in front of your face. Recognition would be instantaneous and unexpected. And a lot of people will be seeing these. Certainly a lot more than watch America's Most Wanted, or the notices at the post office. If I were this guy, I'd lie low 'til the banners stop.
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Why would someone who is bagging groceries be wanted for 21 murders? Could their job be less than fulfilling?
Now, if the FBI is going to use Ads to track down criminals and terrorists will ad blocking software become illegal?
Yeah, just like ignoring wanted posters and those "have you seen this child" mailings has been made illegal.
You're either a moron, or just didn't read the article...
Actually, you could be both!
"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge"
- Charles Darwin
i actually saw it for the first time in a long time this last week (while working on a webpage) and they said something about having a hand in helping capturing over 700 people..... they also do/did that show "manhunt" or whatever it was called that was a bio kinda thing on one criminal that was 30 or 60 minutes. the only one of those i ever saw was the one on Ira Einhorn..... how was captured in France a few years ago and just retried in Philadelphia (for a murder in the 70s) earlier this year.
i'm sure most watchers are just staying tuned after COPS and not thinking they are going to hunt down somebody, but i guess they have made the stories interesting enough for that show to last 15 years or however long it has been on.
Not only are we thieves if we block banner ads, but now we're aiding terrorists too! And by the Bush Doctrine, that makes us Evil Terrorists(tm) as well!
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American jurisprudence also has a bunch of 1960s practices like the Exclusionary Rule and the Miranda Warning which say that courts can't admit evidence that was acquired improperly, whether it was from beating prisoners until they confess, illegally searching homes without warrants, or getting warrants by lying to judges, or lying to prisoners about the law when they don't have lawyers to advise them. Again, it didn't totally eliminate abuses, but the traditional example for its effectiveness is that the year before the Exclusionary Rule, police in New York City didn't bother getting any search warrants - they just illegally searched anybody and any place they wanted to, while the year after the rule, they almost always got warrants when they needed them (even if they still lied about their evidence on occasion.)
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