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BASF Shows Off Some Tantalizing Nanotech

Dan B. writes "The Technology section in The Age today is running a story on the current 'Next Generation' nanotech coming to a store near you from BASF. Interesting read, but I'd like some more info on the 10 hour batteries the size of a cigarette lighter."

233 comments

  1. Re:Shut it Michael. by michael · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    There's always a "reader" (I use the term loosely, since they rarely read the links) who will vehemently respond to something not said nor even implied; congratulations, you're the one for this story.

  2. Re:Shut it Michael. by FortKnox · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Insult the readers. Best way to increase the readership, right mike?

    Not that it ever happened to me... oh wait...

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    Good quote, too many chars. Seriously, the slashdot 120 char limit sucks!
  3. Re:Shut it Michael. by cetan · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    So if nothing was said or even implied in your sentence, then it obviously has no value and should have never been added to the story.

    But of course it does say something. It says "I feel so important as an editor I have to add my 2 cents in everywhere, even when there's no reason to."

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    In Soviet Russia...michael would be rotting in Siberia!
  4. Re:Shut it Michael. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Oh you shouldn't have question Michael, now you will definitely feel his wrath.

  5. Lets Hang Him by (v)Jargon(v) · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Lets Hang Him...

    1. Re:Lets Hang Him by (v)Jargon(v) · · Score: 0

      Screw you for offtopic, just about everyone was cracking on the contributor...

  6. Re:Shut it Michael. by cetan · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    That's ok. I know what sort of child he is. I expect nothing less from him than a tantrum.

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    In Soviet Russia...michael would be rotting in Siberia!
  7. Re:Shut it Michael. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    ... and of course now you get immediately bitch-slapped down.

    Such is always the case with unlimited mod points when they are given to people with unhealthy egos.

  8. Re:Shut it Michael. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Mod this down.

    Offtopic, troll, flamebait.

    All apply.

  9. Re:Shut it Michael. by Starship+Trooper · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    If you believe in what you say so much, put your money where your mouth is. Take your editorial opinions out of the story text and post it as a comment. Surely it'll be modded up to +5, Insightful in short order anyway, you being such a veritable fountain of wisdom and all.

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  10. Re:Shut it Michael. by FortKnox · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    If you are going to mod me down offtopic, at least have the decency to mod your own comment down, for it, too, is off topic.

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    Good quote, too many chars. Seriously, the slashdot 120 char limit sucks!
  11. Re:Shut it Michael. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    The last time I questioned mikey in a series of posts I lost 20 points of karma in one day. Hard to believe there were than many "fans" waiting around to help their "comrade" in arms out.

  12. Re:Shut it Michael. by cetan · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    What's really amazing is that michael thinks he is in the right. He is so blinded by his own self-worth that he honestly believes he is doing the right thing here. It's so sad to see someone throw good intelligence down the drain.

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    In Soviet Russia...michael would be rotting in Siberia!
  13. Re:Shut it Michael. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    There's always an "editor" (I use the term loosely, since their copy would rarely pass my third grade English teacher) who will weakly respond to the criticism that their irresponsible hyperbole has earned them; congratulations, you're the one for this story.

  14. Re:Shut it Michael. by cetan · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Editors have unlimited mod points. He doesn't have any fans, he actually modded down your posts. He stalked and tracked you. He's a child with a gun and no one is going to win in that situation.

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    In Soviet Russia...michael would be rotting in Siberia!
  15. Re:Shut it Michael. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Cute .sig, Michael 'censorware.org' Simms.

    I'll have you know that I myself am not Sethf, but merely someone who's been disgusted with your ill-informed editorial stance on many an issue, something which was really brought to the forefront when you defended the foolish anarchist responsible for RaiseTheFist.com.

  16. Re:Shut it Michael. by Com2Kid · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    You think it matters to FK? Damn nearly every active /. reader has him auto-modded up to +5 in the minimum.

    He's a force of E-Nature. ;)

  17. Re:Shut it Michael. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    excuse me, i believe you are modding this thread down incessantly and posting a comment at the same time. isn't that a contradiction of the moderators cannot post in the same article rule? if so then all your offtopic bitchslapping moderations should be undone. why is it now? and don't tell me actual readers are modding this thread down. you wouldn't get one soul to believe that.

  18. I'd be interested by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    in know what it was you did mean by that comment, if not "two errors out of millions of data points per year == suspicious".

    Posted anonymously for fear of retribution.

  19. Re:Shut it Michael. by cetan · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    See what I mean? It's sad but true.

    Hi michael. Thanks for stopping by. Looks like I'll have to make a few intelligent posts now to make up for the losses here. At least I'll be adding more to this site than you ever will.

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    In Soviet Russia...michael would be rotting in Siberia!
  20. Re:Shut it Michael. by cetan · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    This is fun. Thanks mike. I'm glad I'm making you feel good about yourself. At least I'm doing something worthwhile, unlike your existance.

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    In Soviet Russia...michael would be rotting in Siberia!
  21. Re:Shut it Michael. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    put me down for another slap. i hope this turns into the post of doom part 2 and then michael sims gets fired. what an great advocate for "freedom".

    your rights online indeed.

  22. Re:Shut it Michael. by cetan · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    How about some more? I'm happy to contribute to the "michael needs a life" fund.

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    In Soviet Russia...michael would be rotting in Siberia!
  23. Re:Shut it Michael. by cetan · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    If he's not been fired by now, he's never going to get fired. /. hired him either because he has pictures of someone or because they're blind to his behavior.

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    In Soviet Russia...michael would be rotting in Siberia!
  24. Re:Shut it Michael. by cetan · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Must be fun to hide behind unlimited mod points. I'm glad you're so powerful. This thread is just proof that you can not handle the responsability of being an editor.

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    In Soviet Russia...michael would be rotting in Siberia!
  25. STOP THE BITCHSLAPPING MICHAEL!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    this is getting ridiculous, michael sims is now clearly abusing his powers to punish users who criticize him and his idiotic ramblings. and now he is breaking his own rules by commenting and modding down in the same story. this is sorta like communist China or the old U.S.S.R. where the leaders would just make rules as they go, or just brazenly defy their own laws.

    nice work hypocrites!

    1. Re:STOP THE BITCHSLAPPING MICHAEL!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      The real question is how many people have to post before someone will stand up and say enough is enough?

      Why won't the founder of the site stand up and say enough is enough?

    2. Re:STOP THE BITCHSLAPPING MICHAEL!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      i believe what you meant to say is:

      "Why won't the founder of this site stand up and say enoog is enoof?"

    3. Re:STOP THE BITCHSLAPPING MICHAEL!! by cetan · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      I've writen to jeff and rob about his abuses. I'm waiting to see if they really respond. I'd be suprised and happy if they did but I'm not expecting them to.

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      In Soviet Russia...michael would be rotting in Siberia!
  26. Re:Shut it Michael. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    What the fuck is Michael's problem?

    This is sad. Mr. Taco had best be hooking you up with 15 or 20 points to make up for this shit.

  27. Re:Shut it Michael. by cetan · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Nah, Taco et all don't care. They've never cared actually. michael has got free reign on his stories and over his moderation abuse. I don't think Taco or anyone has ever issued an apology for some of michaels worse offenses.

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    In Soviet Russia...michael would be rotting in Siberia!
  28. Re:Shut it Michael. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Didn't angry-mike come over as part of the andover buyout?

    I believe the original editors didn't like him then and it would be hard to believe they like him now.

  29. Re:Shut it Michael. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    that's not the point. negative moderation triggers an IP-gag, which keeps FortKnox from posting. this is something that Michael would be interested in. additionally, if FortKnox goes negative in karma, he can only post twice a day. this is something Michael would love. as CmdrTaco once pointed out, KARMA MATTERS A LOT (he may have phrased it differently, i forget).

    i'm an anonymous coward - i can't afford not to be.

  30. Re:Shut it Michael. by cetan · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Uh oh. I'm down from "Excellent" karma to "Good" now. I count close to 30 mod points lost today because of michael. I'd rather not let him get me all the way to negative karma so I'll end here. Let this thread stand as a testament to the abuses of the moderation system and the lack of intelligence michael has.

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    In Soviet Russia...michael would be rotting in Siberia!
  31. Re:Shut it Michael. by grumpygrodyguy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is a serious issue in science and technology alike, and shouldn't be avoided as an issue.

    A lot of people don't understand the kind of thinking that goes into the scientific process these days. There are many cases of Physicists, Chemists, Bio-chemists who spend many years testing a single hyposthesis.

    Sitting in a lab all day looking at spreadsheets for 5 years will challenge anyone's sanity. Often times these scientists, who are very pressured by the "publish or perish" dogma of academia, are very anxious about thier results. So much so that many of them begin to have fantasies in thier minds about the results...they literally build a play-world in thier minds.

    Almost any scientist who's worked on a new theory can attest to this, it's like thinking you're holding the $100Billion lotto ticket in your hand, it's very exciting...you want to believe, the lust for fame, the recognition you always deserved but never recieved, fantasies of being promoted, going to a better university...it sounds like something a very disturbed individual would think...but believe me, it's very very common place.

    My point here is this; these scientists who release bad results are not neccesarily "evil" or trying to "dupe" the scientific community. They have simply lost touch with reality...and want thier fantasy world to come true so badly...that they really do believe in the validity of what they publish. So ultimately the "fault" should rest in the rigor of the editors who publish these results. That's where the check and balance between fantasy and science should be.

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  32. Re:Shut it Michael. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    wow, i didnt know michael had it in him to post in the discussion!

  33. MICHAEL SIMS IS A FASCIST. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Please see subject, k, thx!

  34. Re:Shut it Michael. by leviramsey · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    More likely, he'll hack bitchslap.pl to mod up his comment.

    That's assuming Mr. Sims has the intelligence to hack Perl...

  35. ModBombing Test by asv108 · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    This is a modbombing test. I want to see if i get modded down by Mike who seems to be making another feeble attempt to sensor a thread.

    1. Re:ModBombing Test by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Oh you will, he just had to run to the bathroom real quick.

  36. Re:Shut it Michael. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    hmm.. a quick look at your posting history shows that, more often than not, that "reader" is you.

  37. Re:Shut it Michael. by neal+n+bob · · Score: -1

    suck my balls, you nazi cunt. You are such a worthless faggot. I like seeing you drop in to make one lame comment, unable to actually defend yourself or your hypocrisy. Then you wander off, stopping back in occasionally to gag anyone who bothers you. Go back to masterbating to mein kampf assbag.

  38. Re:Shut it Michael. by krog · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    This looks like a job for Seth Finkelstein!

    time to drop three karma points. i wonder if this will add me to the No More Trolls neo-rtbl shit list...

  39. Re:Shut it Michael. by Leven+Valera · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    You know, you really wouldn't have this problem if you just relaxed a little more. Maybe some anger management counseling?

    Max

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  40. You pussy. by Bitter+Old+Man · · Score: -1

    If you're going to be silenced by a Slashfag, you're a pussy ass homo bitch if you do it willingly.

  41. Re:Shut it Michael. by Real+World+Stuff · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    I feel thereis a chasm in you interpretation of Editorial Comment and Opinion. Please take a moment to review both.

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    If we don't fight for ourselves no one will.
  42. Re:Shut it Michael. by wdr1 · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Well, Michael, the readers of Slashdot seem to disagree.

    His comment is mod'ed to 5 whereas yours is -1.

    -Bill

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    SlashSig Karma: Excellent (mostly affected by moderatio
  43. Re:Shut it Michael. by GoatPigSheep · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    It's editors like you that make me happy I don't pay for any slashdot subscriptions. Maybe when you stop insulting your readers more people might actually be interested in giving money to you guys.

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    GoatPigSheep, the 3 most important food groups
  44. Re:Shut it Michael. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Hey michel fuck you, thanks

    this guy's been on my friends list forever, and constantly posts interesting material.

    You on the other hand...

  45. Re:Shut it Michael. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
  46. Re:Shut it Michael. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    I hope you didn't need any karma, cetan.

  47. Re:Lets Hang The Moderators by (v)Jargon(v) · · Score: 0

    Lets hang the moderators!!!!!

  48. Re:Shut it Michael. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I like michael sims.

    G. Oatse.

  49. Re:Shut it Michael. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    hey michael, how many posts have you censored today?

  50. Re:Shut it Michael. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    hey michael, you fucktard, he was replying to something *you* wrote. Don't like it? Why don't you just edit the story! Asshole

  51. Fuck You, Eagles by Amsterdam+Vallon · · Score: -1, Troll

    You ripped my God damn heart out.

    Bury yourselves in the Vet's rubble, please.

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  52. The Slashdot Moderation Investigation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    One of the dirty secrets of Slashdot is the editor's abuse of the moderation system. They mass-moderate comments in threads that they don't like, and sometimes even mod down all the comments of users they don't like. Even malicious users who don't like you for whatever reason can abuse certain moderations and not be penalized for it. Some misdirected noble users have tried coming up with ways not to play this moderation game, which is useless because Slashdot track karma by IP address. But, why should we inconvienence ourselves in order to suit the abuse of despots?

    I would like to take this opportunity to declare the opening of a petition for the Slashdot editors to fit the moderation system of Slashdot to the people. It is located here, and I estimate at least 1000 signatures are needed in order for the powers that be to take it seriously.

    If you still need convincing of the impurities of the moderation system, look at my exhaustive research here.

    ~udb
    1. Re:The Slashdot Moderation Investigation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Yes, it's all a horrible conspiracy. Why don't you go read the news somewhere else. shortnews perhaps.

  53. WAR!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    UN coalition attcked Iraq at 0:45 local time!! British casualties! CNN.com down!

    1. Re:WAR!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      AP news team killed in bombing raid on Baghdad.

      Simultaneous air/ground strikes. Entire British scout platoon dead.

    2. Re:WAR!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      BBC's site is still up.

      But yeah, this is off-topic.
      A regurgitation in "spare me the tech mumbo jumbo" language in a mainstream aussie newspaper about vitamin delivering liposomes and small batteries is more important for Slashdot.

  54. BASF by billoo · · Score: 0, Redundant

    BASF we don't make nano tech, we make nano tech better.

    1. Re:BASF by AssFace · · Score: 2, Interesting

      my aunt is a patent law attorney (and her father was a partner at one of the best patent law firms in the country) and I can recall her talking about BASF one day.

      She said that their ads are amusing to her because they "make it better" by paying a lot of money to keep track of new patents that are made by smaller people (not big companies), then steal them and use them to generate money for themselves and other companies that employ them.
      They then just absorb the lawsuits and tie them up in the courts until the person or small company fighting them runs out of money.

      but that is a lot harder to describe in a catchy way in an ad.

      --

      There are some odd things afoot now, in the Villa Straylight.
    2. Re:BASF by The+FooMiester · · Score: 1

      Wouldn't it be:

      At BASF, We don't make the nanotech, we make it smaller.

      They're usually pretty smart about their advertising.

      Perhaps it's because they don't make the ad copy, they make it more intelligent.

      --
      The previous has been a secret message to my comrades.
  55. text of article by paughsw · · Score: -1, Redundant

    Imagine never having to polish your shoes again, having glistening white teeth without visiting a dentist, or owning a mobile phone powered by a miniature battery. These are not just idle fantasies, but a reality where small things could make your wildest dreams come true. A band of scientists believe they can push the boundaries of chemistry and physics to create a host of tiny particles that could revolutionise products we use every day. Welcome to the wonderful world of nanotechnology. You may already be digesting and using nanoproducts without knowing it. Fizzy drinks and fruit juices get their rainbow of colours from tiny particles that dissolve in liquid and disappear without a trace. Many vitamins are insoluble in water but can be added to food by making them into particles smaller than the eye can see. Cosmetics such as sunscreen are made of mini-particles that act as miniature solar soldiers, absorbing harmful ultra-violet light to protect your skin from the sun. At a recent conference in Mannheim, Germany, scientists working at the chemical company BASF presented a huge range of products that could soon be out on supermarket shelves. Nanotechnology has been heralded as one of the key technologies of the 21st century. By manipulating particles 50,000 times smaller than a human hair, materials can be merged into products or can create new properties. Manufactured products are made from atoms. Their properties depend on how the atoms are arranged. What nanotechnology does is build things one atom at a time to create myriad novel molecular goods possessing amazing properties. The magical trick is to manipulate the molecules and place them where they are needed to make the right structure. Nature has played an inspirational role in pushing this mini-world forward. The leaf of an exotic flower inspired the creation of a spray that refuses to let dirt stick to shoes. The lotus flower from Asia has leaves with a strange arrangement of wax crystals on its surface that repel water. As this liquid rolls over leather, it takes any dust or dirt along for the ride, leaving your shoes spotless. Harald Keller, a polymer scientist at BASF, has trapped this lotus effect in a can. Once you apply the spray, it dries into the leather and takes on an arrangement similar to the leaves. "I believe that, with improvements, this spray should conceivably last a few years before having to be reapplied," says Keller. It could also be used on building materials, paper and textiles. It is not only footwear that benefits from the wonders of the nanoworld. The effect that film stars get from teeth bleaching to blind us on-screen could soon be available in a humble tube of toothpaste. "At the moment, every time you brush your teeth you damage the enamel. This latest idea is to rebuild the attacked enamel using nanoparticles incorporated in toothpaste that seals pores and restores the natural whiteness of the teeth," says Ralf Norenberg, from the performance chemical division at BASF. Norenberg made tiny particles of hydroxyapatite, which has the same chemical structure as tooth enamel. He found that, when applied to teeth, it created a protective coating that did not allow dirt to invade. The key lies in the unique shape of the apatite particles. This material forms a suspension of rod-shaped crystallites that ensures the teeth get all-over smooth cover and demonstrates flawless organisation, claims Norenberg. Other products already on the market are not as effective and use optical brightness, which "paints" your pearly whites, causing pimples to form that allow bacteria to settle and breed on the surface. The miniature wonder-workers do not stop there. In a world driven by technology there is always a need to create and store information more efficiently. As mobiles and laptops get smaller, their source of power needs to do the same. A revolutionary nanocube that can store hydrogen may solve this problem. These cubes, combining the features of plastic drink bottles and sun cream - terephthalic acid and zinc oxide - have a huge range of applications. Their high surface area and porous nature allows them to adsorb hydrogen and release the gas as energy when a rapid drop in pressure occurs. As they are rechargeable, they could replace conventional batteries. Storing the gas in a container the size of a cigarette lighter would mean they could power small portable appliances for up to 10 hours. -Telegraph

    1. Re:text of article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Redundant

      This wasn't interesting or new the first time we read it.

      Why was this story submission accepted?

      In other news: Your whole body consists of things that's essentially tiny little bubbles of fat and proteins, called "cells"!

      Furthermore, technology that needs to be made smaller is, in fact, made smaller all the time!

      Ain't this new-fangled nano-whatchamacallit great?

  56. Fuck you Eagles by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
    TAMPA BAY RULES THE FUCKING WORLD EAG-NUTS.


    THIS ONE IS IN THE BAG. START PRINTING THE SUPERBOWL SHIRTS RIGHT NOW!!

    WOOT


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    1. Re:Fuck you Eagles by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      umm for those of us in ther real world whats an "eag-nut"?

  57. Insert your assimilation tubules here... by Skadet · · Score: 0, Troll

    ...for 10-hour battery schematics.

  58. Timothy, my kid reads this site by Amsterdam+Vallon · · Score: -1, Troll
    Timothy, you posted this:

    Science: BASF Shows Off Some Tantalizing Nanotech
    Posted by timothy on Sunday January 19, @07:52PM
    from the tech-porn dept.


    First off, your joke is barely even laughable. Secondly, it's downright innappropriate for any kids or young teenagers to be reading on a site like this.

    I have filters on our home machine in the Mozilla set-up that only allow certains sites to be read by my children (we all have our own user profiles).

    I have always allowed them to read the Slashdot front page and all the links that are pointed to by the stories. I've never let them read the comments.pl page because of all the sex and violence talk at the 0 and -1 levels.

    But with this talk about pornography from the Slashdot editors now, I don't think I'll even let my children read your site. Sure, you may think it's innocent, but some of us are very offended by pornography in general and the connotation it gives females and the sickening thoughts it gives males about domination and bossing around women.

    You should be ashamed of yourself. I ask of you to please change the department title and reconsider what you write in the future.

    Thank you,
    -- A concerned Slashdot reader and parent

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    1. Re:Timothy, my kid reads this site by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      oh my ribs

    2. Re:Timothy, my kid reads this site by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      He should be ashamed of himself?

      sure...

      What is that even supposed to mean?

    3. Re:Timothy, my kid reads this site by Mononoke · · Score: 5, Funny
      First off, your joke is barely even laughable. Secondly, it's downright innappropriate for any kids or young teenagers to be reading on a site like this.
      Yes. Words are bad. Children should be kept as far away as possible from words.

      If mere words are so harmful to your children, then I fear for their future.

      My children have been taught not to fear words or thoughts. I hope they're not too progressive for your world.

      --
      NetInfo connection failed for server 127.0.0.1/local
    4. Re:Timothy, my kid reads this site by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1
      I'd like to make love to your children, or maybe download some photos of them, purely for research purposes that is.

      -Pete T.

    5. Re:Timothy, my kid reads this site by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      Your children can't even hear the word "porn".

      These kids are really going to be hurt when you introduce them to the world.

    6. Re:Timothy, my kid reads this site by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's football dude.

    7. Re:Timothy, my kid reads this site by commodoresloat · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Then I certainly hope you don't let your children watch television or read magazines or books or newspapers or look at billboards or cartoons, all of which may occasionally use the word "porn." I certainly hope you're a troll, otherwise I fear for your children. People who think like you simply shouldn't breed.

    8. Re:Timothy, my kid reads this site by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Children don't want freedom. They want obedience. You're ideologically blinded if you don't see that.

    9. Re:Timothy, my kid reads this site by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the connotation it gives females and the sickening thoughts it gives males about domination and bossing around women.

      This statement is just not true. Since you are not well versed in porn, I suggest you do not have the capacity to make this judgement. The porn industry is egalitarian about all sorts of sexual practice, including male-female domination and female-male domination, and all combinations therein. Porn does not give men (or women) nasty thoughts, it gratifies them.
      If you truly understood the nature of porn, I think you might still be upset by it; but I can certainly tell you that your current understanding is incomplete and incorrectly biased.

    10. Re:Timothy, my kid reads this site by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh and I forgot to mention my kids are 34 and 35 years old.

      -- Amsterdam Vallon

      But seriously. That's ridiculous.

    11. Re:Timothy, my kid reads this site by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Jesus Fuck, you are really good! Post more please!

    12. Re:Timothy, my kid reads this site by MrLint · · Score: 1

      well now that you know that /. might contain offensive content, you can add it to your blokcing software on your computer.. you are using blokcing software arent you? Its clear you arent hovering around watching every second or you wouldnt really be worried about this.

    13. Re:Timothy, my kid reads this site by enomar · · Score: 2, Insightful

      My children have been taught not to fear words or thoughts. I hope they're not too progressive for your world.

      I don't mean to be a troll, but that statement makes you seem like the kind of person that gets an ego trip from raising kids the right way.

      IMHO, most children aren't able to fully grasp all ideas and words. The simple truth is that most kids won't be able to understand consenting sexual agression the first time they encounter it on the Internet. The original poster had a valid point. Just because you're obviously super intelligent and a great parent, doesn't mean everyone else can be as perfect.

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      :wq
    14. Re:Timothy, my kid reads this site by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      that comment really turned me on, fuck yeah my huge cock is growing so big, fuck yeah. cant wait till my 13 year old daughter comes home cause im going to slap her up and fuck her little brains out, the little whore

    15. Re:Timothy, my kid reads this site by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      fuck you

    16. Re:Timothy, my kid reads this site by jargonCCNA · · Score: 1

      I find that actually emailing the editor in question works better. I remember a while ago there were two MAGLEV articles on the front page. Quick email to both editors involved and it was corrected inside of twenty minutes.

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  59. Boring... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Next story please. Small things amuse small minds.

    1. Re:Boring... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Explains why you enjoy masturbating so much.

    2. Re:Boring... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who doesn't - it is suppossed to be enjoyable.

  60. Uh Oh by Mwongozi · · Score: 0

    Prey is coming true

    1. Re:Uh Oh by goatasaur · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I thought the same thing when I read the article. Prey was a pretty cool book.

      This is a bit OT, but does anyone else think Crichton is a shill for some conservative/religious organization? Almost all his books are about how new technology can go catastrophically wrong and kill people in gory, fascinating ways. Jurassic Park (and sequel), The Andromeda Strain, Airframe (to an extent), and now Prey.

      I smell conspiracy.

      --
      ~D:
    2. Re:Uh Oh by nightherper · · Score: 1
      Damn no link to a pirate ebook that I can download and read a bit of?

      Of course I'd buy the book after my eyes start to get burn-in.....

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      ...

    3. Re:Uh Oh by goatasaur · · Score: 1

      I'd say it's worth buying, if you're a fan of Crichton's other stuff...

      ...which is the problem I'm starting to have with him. Prey seems like Crichton wrote it on autopilot.

      --
      ~D:
    4. Re:Uh Oh by syd02 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      No conspiracy necessary. If you look around, you'll notice that market-driven media entities are constantly fearmongering. And they love this president, because his popularity too is positively correlated with popular fears. Boogymen abound. The end result is going to be (already is getting) ugly.

      Why are handguns (for personal protection, obviously) so popular in America? Too many people watching their local evening news. We're a bunch of irrational sissies.

    5. Re:Uh Oh by Russ+Steffen · · Score: 1

      It's all Amish propagana, damnit!

      Seriously, I don't know about him being anyone's shill. But I do know that I can't stand the "Crichton formula". Every book of his (that I've read anyway) pulls the same crap where introducs something (cloned dinosaurs, alien viruses, preditory nanotech, etc) that would have a profound effect on the world. But his story's hero will always find some way to put the genie back in the bottle so that he doesn't have to deal with any consequences outside of his main characters.

    6. Re:Uh Oh by goatasaur · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "But I do know that I can't stand the 'Crichton formula'."

      Sphere and The Terminal Man can be summed up the same way as your examples. You forgot to mention "ten-page dissertations on aformentioned promising technology, placed in the middle of the story" in your list of cliches.

      Airframe and Eaters of the Dead didn't follow his normal methods. I don't think EotD sold very well (for Crichton), although Airframe was a moderate success (and wasn't it supposed to be made into a movie? Or did I miss it?)

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      ~D:
    7. Re:Uh Oh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Haven't read the book but from the website, this sounds like Andromeda Strain, but with the tiny out of control reproducing thingies of terestrial origin as opposed to being aliens. I know he follows a formula but this seems a bit redundant, even for Crichton.

    8. Re:Uh Oh by Bicoid · · Score: 1

      Because he's a HACK. And an annoyingly successful one at that.

      Timeline, Congo, Jurassic Park, Lost World, Sphere, Prey, Terminal Man, Andromeda Strain...they're all the same book with different characters and different technologies. Eaters of the Dead is different because it's just an adaptation of Beowulf. Airframe is a hack detective story; nothing unique.

      --
      If not all sentients are human, couldn't it be possible that not all humans are sentient either?
    9. Re:Uh Oh by freeweed · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So are almost all of James Cameron's movies.

      Fear of the unknown is a strong literary theme, it's not surprising at all that people in the 20th and 21st centuries eat it up.

      --
      Endless arguments over trivial contradictions in books written by ignorant savages to explain thunder in the dark.
    10. Re:Uh Oh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So is Lord of the Rings (it's also about his fears of war in Europe, but the trilogy also has strong anti-industiral sentiments).

      So are all of the Star Wars films - they're all very anti-technology (which is why I always find it rather strange that geeks in general are so enamoured of them).

    11. Re:Uh Oh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thank you Michael Moore. Did the theater just let out?

    12. Re:Uh Oh by syd02 · · Score: 1

      You actually think that Michael Moore was the first person to notice and articulate this.

      Go read something for a change.

    13. Re:Uh Oh by syd02 · · Score: 1

      Notice that in Aliens, James Cameron wrote the android as an underestimated hero figure that wins Ripley over in the end. Still, I know what you're saying.

      I would say that Cameron was ahead of his time in his anxieties about military robots, etc. Isn't it interesting that the Terminator mythology timeline, including the soon to be released T3: Rise of the Machines closely mirrors real events in the respective years when the films were released? Because of the time which elapsed between films, Linda Hamilton and Ed Furlong could even act out their parts at each stage in the story without troubling to play their characters older or younger. In T2, Sarah Connor looked exactly as she should have after those years had gone by, and now Furlong would make an exellent John Connor if he weren't having serious substance abuse issues.

      Rise of the machines, indeed. Now we're actually killing terrorists with UAVs, and you can read (slashdot posted a story) about wireless technology being employed to create *independent* networks in the sky so that these killer robots can communicate with each other and make battlefield decisions at a moment's notice...can you say "SkyNet"!?!? It's hillarious, even as it is terrifying!

      I'm not so worried about SkyNet "waking up", but because I do have a shred of empathy for people I've never met, I'm deeply concerned about what the future of war might be like for some poor family in some poor country that we have so carelessly labeled an "axis of evil". Those nightmarish scenes from the Terminator movies...people living like rats as they try to survive a merciless mechanical onslaught...could actually be what Bush and co. have in store for any "brown people" who don't kowtow to the new capital-first world order.

      "Global demographic trends suggestive of an overpopulated future? No problem!"
      (insert sounds of military laser canons here)

      Deeply concerned.

  61. Food Labling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Will these products be labeled accordingly like GM foods? I certinally hope so.

    The EU will force clear labling, I bet the USA tries to hide it like they did with the GM foods.

  62. Want to learn more about nanotechnology? by Amsterdam+Vallon · · Score: -1, Troll

    Research and Development Centers on Nanotechnology
    Academic
    Industry
    National Laboratories
    List Your Center on this Website
    Funding and Sponsoring Agencies and Societies

    Government
    Professional Societies
    Non-Profit Organizations
    Major Research Reports and Publications

    Books
    Periodicals
    Reports
    Submit Your Publication
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    1. Re:Want to learn more about nanotechnology? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic


      1. Paste a few links or google cache or Copy and paste pre-slashdotted site
      2. ???
      3. Profit on mod points!!!

  63. What We Can Learn From BSD by Trolling+Thunder · · Score: -1
    What We Can Learn From BSD
    By Chinese Karma Whore , Version 1.0

    Everyone knows about BSD's failure and imminent demise. As we pore over the history of BSD, we'll uncover a story of fatal mistakes, poor priorities, and personal rivalry, and we'll learn what mistakes to avoid so as to save Linux from a similarly grisly fate.

    Let's not be overly morbid and give BSD credit for its early successes. In the 1970s, Ken Thompson and Bill Joy both made significant contributions to the computing world on the BSD platform. In the 80s, DARPA saw BSD as the premiere open platform, and, after initial successes with the 4.1BSD product, gave the BSD company a 2 year contract.

    These early triumphs would soon be forgotten in a series of internal conflicts that would mar BSD's progress. In 1992, AT&T filed suit against Berkeley Software, claiming that proprietary code agreements had been haphazardly violated. In the same year, BSD filed countersuit, reciprocating bad intentions and fueling internal rivalry. While AT&T and Berkeley Software lawyers battled in court, lead developers of various BSD distributions quarreled on Usenet. In 1995, Theo de Raadt, one of the founders of the NetBSD project, formed his own rival distribution, OpenBSD, as the result of a quarrel that he documents on his website. Mr. de Raadt's stubborn arrogance was later seen in his clash with Darren Reed, which resulted in the expulsion of IPF from the OpenBSD distribution.

    As personal rivalries took precedence over a quality product, BSD's codebase became worse and worse. As we all know, incompatibilities between each BSD distribution make code sharing an arduous task. Research conducted at MIT found BSD's filesystem implementation to be "very poorly performing." Even BSD's acclaimed TCP/IP stack has lagged behind, according to this study.

    Problems with BSD's codebase were compounded by fundamental flaws in the BSD design approach. As argued by Eric Raymond in his watershed essay, The Cathedral and the Bazaar, rapid, decentralized development models are inherently superior to slow, centralized ones in software development. BSD developers never heeded Mr. Raymond's lesson and insisted that centralized models lead to 'cleaner code.' Don't believe their hype - BSD's development model has significantly impaired its progress. Any achievements that BSD managed to make were nullified by the BSD license, which allows corporations and coders alike to reap profits without reciprocating the goodwill of open-source. Fortunately, Linux is not prone to this exploitation, as it is licensed under the GPL.

    The failure of BSD culminated in the resignation of Jordan Hubbard and Michael Smith from the FreeBSD core team. They both believed that FreeBSD had long lost its earlier vitality. Like an empire in decline, BSD had become bureaucratic and stagnant. As Linux gains market share and as BSD sinks deeper into the mire of decay, their parting addresses will resound as fitting eulogies to BSD's demise.

  64. IN SOVIET RUSSIA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    BASF nanotech tantalizes you!

  65. 10 hour battery? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Not to be a jerk, but who gives a fuck? I think I speak for the majority who read this site that it's quality of article submissions has certainly gone down over the years. I think the editors like Rob, Michael, etc need to quit busting cocks up each others asses all the time and do so serious work on this site.

    And I don't give a shit about all this "OSDN" shit either. VA Software is nothing but a bunch of stupid faggots that make junk software that no one is interested in at all.

    This site needs to be at the recieving end of some DoS attacks. Linux sucks, just admit it. "Kathleen" Malda is a transvestite.

    The only good posts here are from the TRoLLs.

  66. 10 hour batteries? by Mononoke · · Score: 3, Funny
    I've got plenty of 10 hour rechargable batteries. In fact, they last quite a bit longer than that.

    I guess it depends upon the load, eh?

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    1. Re:10 hour batteries? by AlexCV · · Score: 0

      Really, my samsung cell phone needs charging about twice a week and it's never off. The battery is half the weight of my old Motorola Star-tac (digital). It too needed two charges a week. So 10 hours would be a huge step back.

      Alex

    2. Re:10 hour batteries? by inertia187 · · Score: 0

      ...they could replace conventional batteries.

      I'm guessing that they are talking about what is normally referred to as AA rechargable power cells that have a normal yield of 1.25v @ 65mAh. That'd be a great improvement over the current technology.

      --
      A programmer is a machine for converting coffee into code.
    3. Re:10 hour batteries? by n3k5 · · Score: 1

      > I guess it depends upon the load, eh?
      That's exactly what I thought. I have batteries that are _much_ smaller and last for _years_, and I'm using them for over ten years now. In my watches...

      --
      but what do i know, i'm just a model.
    4. Re:10 hour batteries? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      65mAh? What kind of crap AA's are those? I've seen them at 1800mAh, dude.

    5. Re:10 hour batteries? by inertia187 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I was talking about the old Radio Shack force feed purple recharchable batteries. Those really were crap.

      --
      A programmer is a machine for converting coffee into code.
  67. CORRECTED LINKS by Amsterdam+Vallon · · Score: -1, Troll

    Research and Development Centers on Nanotechnology
    Academic
    Industry
    National Laboratories
    List Your Center on this Website
    Funding and Sponsoring Agencies and Societies

    Government
    Professional Societies
    Non-Profit Organizations
    Major Research Reports and Publications

    Books
    Periodicals
    Reports
    Submit Your Publication
    Conferences

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  68. What? by kruetz · · Score: 4, Interesting
    From the article

    Imagine never having to polish your shoes again, having glistening white teeth without visiting a dentist, or owning a mobile phone powered by a miniature battery. These are not just idle fantasies, but a reality where small things could make your wildest dreams come true.

    wow! this guy's pretty darn wild! I bet for a big night out he turns on the TV and drinks a whole light beer. I mean, c'mon - with all the possibilities for nanotechnology, having self-polishing shoes is the best he could come up with?

    it looks that just as with other technologies (www, e-commerce, ...) we're gonna have to wait for the pron industry to break new ground and lead the way ... oh, the possiblities!!! Wait a minute, don't. Eughh!

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    1. Re:What? by Anonvmous+Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      "it looks that just as with other technologies (www, e-commerce, ...) we're gonna have to wait for the pron industry to break new ground and lead the way ... oh, the possiblities!!! Wait a minute, don't. Eughh!"

      Dude, don't ever leave yourself open like that again. Anybody else here resist the urge to poke fun at a guy who suggested the porn industry use nanomachines to provide a service he might want?

    2. Re:What? by Anonvmous+Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      "wow! this guy's pretty darn wild! I bet for a big night out he turns on the TV and drinks a whole light beer. I mean, c'mon - with all the possibilities for nanotechnology, having self-polishing shoes is the best he could come up with? "

      Ugh. Did you even read the F'n A? It's really frustrating when somebody takes the time to understand the capabilities of something they understand only to have the listener get all disappointed because he didn't invent a replicator or something.

      The whole point of what he was saying was that nature has solved a LOT of problems we have today, and on the nano-level we can understand what it's doing and incorporate reserach that nature has already done into modern society. His example wasn't cool because it could make the dir resistant shoes, it was cool because it meant that they could emulate nature. The result is future materials would be longer lasting. Dare I say: mold-proof houses?

      I'd normally concede that they could have presented their case better, but in this example they described the bits of it that were interesting enough that the application was merely an example.

    3. Re:What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Imagine never having to polish your shoes again, having glistening white teeth without visiting a dentist, or owning a mobile phone powered by a miniature battery. These are not just idle fantasies, but a reality where small things could make your wildest dreams come true.

      What!? I don't have any polishable shoes, my dentist doesn't clean my teeth my teeth for me, and my mobile phone is already powered by a miniature battery.

  69. Betting on LSD by Mighty_Joe_Stalin · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    Ha Ha Ha! I knew that the Eagles would fail. They were a team being held together by the strange idea that McNabb is a quarterback. When McNabb first entered the league, I was like everyone else; I thought, "Wow, he's changing the way quarterbacks play." But now in the grim twilight of his career I realize that we had it wrong from the start. He wasn't changing anything. He had flash-in-the-pan written all over him - all style, no substance. Just like Kordell Stewart, that evil heroin-junkie, and the guy from that football league started by the WWF who had "HE HATE ME" written on his jersey, so to is McNabb nothing but a foul brute with no finese. Everytime Terry Bradshaw said something stupid about how great McNabb was, Joe Montana would fall down on the ground and begin spinning at high rates of speed. The Eagles were only in the NFC Championship because the idea of McNabb hadn't entirely fallen apart (but it was close - HE HATE ME and Stewart have long since fallen by the wayside) and the Eagles have a defense that can successfully defend against the worst in the league. The Bucs are a shitty team - there's nothing special about them at all. Come on, Keyshawn Johnson is an arrogant asshole and we all know that arrogant assholes never win when it REALLY counts. [Hi Barry Bonds! How are you? Enjoying the off-season? What's that on your finger? Oh, nothing? Hmm, no ring eh? Fuck you asshole.] That being said, The Raiders will pound the Bucs and would have pounded the Eagles. They are the best of the shitty teams that made the playoffs. If Drew Bledsoe had not been paid off by the Patriots organization to infiltrate and sabotage the Buffalo Bills, Jim Kelly would currently be standing upon a mountain of corpses and laughing at you filthy cumdumpsters. Marv Levy will be back to skull-fuck all who want some, mark my words.

    In other news, this new movie with the motorcycles and Kid Rock/white trash looks to be the worst movie this side of Deuce Bigalo. Never place bets on a team from Pennsylvania. They will never cover the spread. The only good player who has ever played for a Pennsylvanian organization is the great Lenny Dykstra. Nails will live on forever...but as a Met. The Phillies are shit. The Eagles are shit. The Flyers are shit. Allen Iverson stole my fucking car!!! Long live the Revolution.

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    Hey, did you see Oprah eat that chunk of feces on TV today? That was fucking awesome!

  70. 10 hour batteries.. by DraconicFae · · Score: 1

    The impression I got from the article is that it would be 10 hours for something possibly smaller and less power hungry than a laptop, since it was in the context of devices getting smaller.. I could be wrong though.

    1. Re:10 hour batteries.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      The article used the words small appliance suggesting that these were not merely electronic devices like laptops, PDA`s etc. I have heard tales of nanotech (well, etched silicon microtech) turbines which burn butane to make electricity. Aparently if you cram all the circuitry needed to run it and a gas cell into a container the size of a AA batery it will give you 300 (three-hundred) times the power than a conventional AA. Maybe the author was refering to something along these lines and just got confused (I read about these about a year ago).

  71. ig farben by crm114 · · Score: 1

    BASF = Badische Anilin -und- Soda Fabrik

    1. Re:ig farben by Tempelherr · · Score: 5, Interesting
      IG Farben itself has quite an extensive history for anyone interested, especially with regard to its member's roles in WWI (manufacturing chlorine gas and potassium nitrate, which helped to alleviate Germany's dependance on Chilean imports) and WWII (producing poison gases, running work camps, ie Auschwitz). It was an incredibly huge and productive industry, also producing many other things, such as artifical rubber.

      After WWII, most of the assets of the IG were transferred to Agfa, Hoechst, Bayer, and of course BASF. If I recall correctly though, the IG is actually going to be dissolved some time in 2003, though I am not sure when. Anyone know when this is scheduled to happen?

      I'm definitely looking forward to some of the products that BASF is developing, especially the hydrogen gas battery. That is going to nice if/when it ever reaches the masses.

    2. Re:ig farben by The+Ape+With+No+Name · · Score: 1

      All well and true, but remember if you wear any clothing, drive any car, or for that matter buy any product made by any number of US companies, DuPont and Dow pop to mind, you are supporting companies that got their start with slave labor before the Civil War or had founders who were slave owners. But that was just how it was done then. That's makes it all better. The USA is much more civilised now what with Walmart's selling products manufactured by sweated foreign labor to the poorer part of the US population. The irony is so sexy.

      PS. Buying stuff at Walmart does not equate to being a part of the "poorer part of the US population." It can also mean that you are a cheap fuck who doesn't mind terribly made crap.

      --
      Comparing it to Windows will be a moot point, since El Dorado is going to have a 40% larger code base than XP.
  72. What's a 10 hour battery? by Jason1729 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Hour is not a measure of power. How many amp- hours is this battery capable of? What terminal voltage?

    A standard size D Alkaline battery is 17 amp-hours at 1.5 volts. That sounds a lot more impressive than a 10 hour battery, and it's using 30 year old technology.

    Jason
    ProfQuotes

    1. Re:What's a 10 hour battery? by Dan+B. · · Score: 1

      Fair play. A car battery is roughly 30AH @ 12V, and my lappy battery is something like 4AH @ 15V, but about 1/32 the size and weight.

      A bit more info on the batteries would be helpful but I have this feeling that the writer of the article 'aint that much of a techy.

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      Dan. -- So what if it's spelt wrong, nobody's perfect
    2. Re:What's a 10 hour battery? by Jason1729 · · Score: 4, Informative

      The discharge curve is also very important. If I draw 10 amps from that 17 Ah alkaline D battery, it will last about 30 minutes instead of 1.7 hours. If I take 10 amps from a 9 Ah NiMH D battery, it will last the full 0.9 hours.
      The car battery can easily handle 600 amps for a few seconds while starting your car. There's no way the laptop battry can handle 80 amps even for a fraction of a second

      This just makes the "10 hour battery" in the article even more meaningless.

      Jason
      ProfQuotes

    3. Re:What's a 10 hour battery? by threephaseboy · · Score: 1
      The car battery can easily handle 600 amps for a few seconds while starting your car. There's no way the laptop battry can handle 80 amps even for a fraction of a second

      Depends on the chemistry. an old NiCd laptop battery could probably put that out (short-circuit current)
      I agree about this battery however. I wonder how many Librarys Of Congress you could transfer per charge.
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      .
    4. Re:What's a 10 hour battery? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also amp-hours is not a measure of power. It's a measure of charge.

    5. Re:What's a 10 hour battery? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unfortunately your 17-hours figure is not accurate as Alkaline battery discharge curve is not straight like NiCd or NiMH.

      Total energy is area under V*I over t.

    6. Re:What's a 10 hour battery? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      but about 1/32 the size and weight

      Much of the weight and size of a car battery goes into the fact that they are fairly weather/water proof, where as a laptop battery is not. Think how hot a car engine gets (200+ degrees F), and how cold a car gets in the winter (-30 degrees F). A laptop battery wouldn't survive those conditions.

    7. Re:What's a 10 hour battery? by Sdrawcab · · Score: 1

      Funny, I always thought that the weight came from the large lead plates and the size from the volume of sulfuric acid needed. But your explanation makes MUCH more sense!

    8. Re:What's a 10 hour battery? by hcdejong · · Score: 1

      A car battery is roughly 30AH @ 12V,

      30 Ah is rather minimal. 50-60 Ah is more common.

    9. Re:What's a 10 hour battery? by Dan+B. · · Score: 1

      Maybe in cars with large engines, but a 1.3 - 1.6 engine will only have a very small battery. A "Yank Tank" will have a much larger battery due to the increased load of turning a 5.7 over to start it.

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    10. Re:What's a 10 hour battery? by hcdejong · · Score: 1

      My car has a 1.6 engine and a 60 Ah battery. The starter motor is rated at 1 kW.

  73. RAPE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    rape is uh like bad i was told. uhm yeah but i know that its really not!!!! ppl just say that cuz they want to rape. so uhh i like did some rape and its like cool and stuff. hehehehehehe i think everybody rapes they just dont talk about it!!! RAPE IS COOL!!! its not bad at all!!!!!!

  74. Brand New BASF Teeth? by BileDog · · Score: 1

    If they are rebuilding your Enamel to make your teeth whiter... it seems a whole lot more interesting that you are actually repairing your teeth.

    Say good bye to dentists? Now that really would rock. Well for those of us that actually go ;)

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  75. What are the real applications? by Amsterdam+Vallon · · Score: 1, Interesting

    From the article:
    Imagine never having to polish your shoes again, having glistening white teeth without visiting a dentist, or owning a mobile phone powered by a miniature battery.

    When my work shoes need polishing, my wife does it or I pay 50 cents and have them done at the Mall Foodcourt or something.

    I got glistening white teeth by using Colgate Gel. It's $14.99 and quite a bargain.

    And my mobile phone gets 6 hours of battery life on a single charge, which is plenty since I don't really talk to many people.

    So, honestly, could someone point me toward some practical real-world applications of this supposed "Next Generation" of nanotechnology?!

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    1. Re:What are the real applications? by Mononoke · · Score: 5, Funny
      When my work shoes need polishing, my wife does it...
      Is that before you send her out to mend the fences and churn the butter, or after?

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    2. Re:What are the real applications? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      your wife polishes your shoes? do you make her use her tongue? I don't know what's worse; that, or the fact that you pay fifteen dollars for toothpaste.

    3. Re:What are the real applications? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I got glistening white teeth by using Colgate Gel. It's $14.99 and quite a bargain."

      Maybe you should stop shopping at Troll-Mart and go to a normal pharmacy for normal people. You would be amazed at the every-day low prices.

    4. Re:What are the real applications? by jdevers77 · · Score: 1

      I think the "Colgate Gel" he speaks of is not toothpaste but the whitening stuff, maybe???

    5. Re:What are the real applications? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is possible that on day, with sufficient developement, they might be able to crawl right up your butt and get the stick out.

    6. Re:What are the real applications? by YellowSnow · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      which is plenty since I don't really talk to many people

      and even less want to listen

    7. Re:What are the real applications? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He didn't say he makes his wife polish his shoes, he just said she does it. It doesn't necessarily mean he is making it her job.

      There are lots of people who like organizing, cleaning and polishing things and their automatic reaction to seeing something in need of cleaning is to take care of it. They'll do it even if you tell them they don't need to. Some of them will even if you tell them not to...

  76. I have the RIGHT (free speech muthafuckas) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

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  77. 10 hours? bah. by oGMo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    A battery the size of a cigarette lighter that lasts for 10 hours? I've got those. They're these little sticks with two "A"'s marked on them and they run my GBA for a good 15 hours

    Miniature batteries for my mobile phone? Gee I think I've got that too. It lasts about 10 hours. And I can replentish it by using this other magical device on my wall called a socket.

    Seriously... fuel cells will need to run a phone for a month at least to be worth it. A laptop better run for a couple weeks. Recharging them isn't a simple matter of plugging them in the wall as it is now... you've got to replace the hydrogen (or other fuel, most people seem focused on hydrogen for some inane reason, even though it's hard to make and doesn't have much energy content).

    This article, like many other nanotech articles, is mostly hype and handwaving (and most of these things aren't even what you typically consider nanotech). So who won buzzword bingo? ;-)

    --

    Don't think of it as a flame---it's more like an argument that does 3d6 fire damage

    1. Re:10 hours? bah. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      (or other fuel, most people seem focused on hydrogen for some inane reason, even though it's hard to make and doesn't have much energy content).

      Last time I checked hydrogen was the most abundant resourced on earth.

    2. Re:10 hours? bah. by wadetemp · · Score: 2, Funny

      Last time I checked hydrogen was the most abundant resourced on earth.

      Last time you checked did you find out that just because it's abundant doesn't mean it's a simple matter to acquire it?

    3. Re:10 hours? bah. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative
      Blockquoth the poster:

      Last time you checked did you find out that just because it's abundant doesn't mean it's a simple matter to acquire it?

      1. Attach hose to faucet.

      2. Fill bucket.

      3. Apply electric current.

      4. Profit!


      Seriously, getting hydrogen is easier than getting just about any fossil fuel, and the power to run the electrolysis can come from just about anywhere, including renewables like solar or wind. Moving the hydrogen around is a thornier issue but we solved a similar one for petroleum as it is.

    4. Re:10 hours? bah. by j3110 · · Score: 1

      I've read a lot on slashdot anti-hydrogen lately, so I think it's time someone explains why. Fuel cells are to replace batteries. That means you want the most amount of energy per volume. Compressed hydrogen may very well be the best chemical source for energy per volume. Devices that are hydrogen powered can be easily recharged (assuming the water didn't escape, you only need to plug it in the wall). Hydrolysis is a practically lossless way of converting electricity into hydrogen, and is safe enough to do in your own home. The only problem with hydrogen was safe containment, but that's been accomplished cheaply by several. I don't know exactly what the process is, but it involves a "sponge" like material for hydrogen to be trapped in. If it catches fire, it only burns, not explodes(normal batteries can explode as well). The only draw back I can foresee is that most common ways of returning the hydrogen and oxygen back into water to release the energy efficiently (IE. not burning), involves platinum. Not that it requires much platinum, but I would probably bet that the electrical load supported is directly proportional to the amount that you have.

      The other arguements that I've seen against it is that hydrogen has the ability to escape most containers. It doesn't escape solid metal containers, except by way of the valve. A good valve won't leak enough to make a spark.

      So really... what is the real arguement against hydrogen? You could use alcohol as well, but there has been a lot more research on how to get hydrogen to give up and take electricity.

      --
      Karma Clown
    5. Re:10 hours? bah. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Where does your electric current come from?
      Fucking moron.

    6. Re:10 hours? bah. by SSJVegeto2001 · · Score: 1

      Uh... we're not trying to make a free source of energy here, we're talking about portable energy. Did you know the factories that make batteries run on electricity too? It doesn't matter where the electricity comes from, it's being converted into a form that can be stored, and that's all that matters.

    7. Re:10 hours? bah. by oGMo · · Score: 1
      So really... what is the real arguement against hydrogen?

      I believe it also has the lowest potential energy of any substance, so compared to having something else in the same volume, you get less energy out. And it's not particularly easy to work with compared to anything else, either.

      I think the main advantage is that it is (as someone else said) abundant, but it's still not easy to process and prepare for use. You won't be dumping liquid hydrogen into a battery.

      For refilling it, the tank idea is actually pretty good, although hydrogen is still fairly dangerous. Too bad helium doesn't work for this.

      I just want to be able to fill up a battery from the water faucet and run my laptop for a week. Call me back when they get that. ;-)

      --

      Don't think of it as a flame---it's more like an argument that does 3d6 fire damage

    8. Re:10 hours? bah. by Feztaa · · Score: 1

      (or other fuel, most people seem focused on hydrogen for some inane reason, even though it's hard to make and doesn't have much energy content).

      I think the big benefit to hydrogen is that the "waste product" is simply hot water. Other fuel might not be quite so "eviro-friendly" as that...

    9. Re:10 hours? bah. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      From the water he collected in the bucket the day before.

    10. Re:10 hours? bah. by TGK · · Score: 1

      Hydrogen's potential energy as related to other objects is low, yes. But the curve you're thinking of is the energy benfit curve from fusion. (Iron tops the curve with Hydrogen at the bottom).

      Now, yes, that means that there are lots of elements you could use that will generate more energy than hydrogen. But I belive the people of a little island called Bikini will agree with me when I say Hydrogen produced a pretty substantial quantity of energy as well under that process.

      Burning? That might be something else. I belive we use Hydrogen for that because it's easy to come by and you can bind a whole lot of them to various ring-shaped chemicals.

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      Killfile(TGK)
      No trees were killed in the creation of this post. However, many electrons were inconvenienced.
    11. Re:10 hours? bah. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think he wanted to refer to the energy density (energy/volume or energy/mass) not the potential energy of hydrogen. The energy density of hydrogen is obviously pretty low if it is in gaseous form. If you want to store it in liquid form you need a high pressure container. If you want to store it in some sponge a large fraction of the total mass is due to the sponge.

      Binding Hydrogen to chemicals containing Carbon will result in the old well-known problems with Carbon Monoxide (incomplete burning) and Carbon Dioxide (you have to put the carbon somewhere, once you take away the hydrogen atoms). So any Carbon based solutions will give us the same problems of fossil fuels minus the problem of limited availability.

  78. Acronym by limekiller4 · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Barely A Speck. Freaky.

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    My .02,
    Limekiller
    1. Re:Acronym by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "It's much easier to mod me down than to post an intelligent reply."

      Unless of course you don't have any mod points.

  79. TURD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    you people need to have elephant shit blown in your faces.

    you nigger loving shit for brains losers

  80. cocks BUSTED up your ass by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    hahahahahahaha

    fuck the Eagles

    TRoLL

  81. Snake! by QEDog · · Score: 1

    "So Snake, I'm going to activate your nanomachines in your blood to give you massage in your arm after that torture." Wasn't that one of the most weird moments in videogame history?

    --
    "There is no teacher but the enemy."-Mazer Rackham
  82. What'll be next from BASF? by IcebergSlim · · Score: 2, Funny

    ....Quadruple sided, quadruple density?

    1. Re:What'll be next from BASF? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Aren't we all using floppy tetrahedron drives ?

  83. Dear Sir/Madame: +1, Interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    FROM: Thambo Mbeki [mailto: tham_bo1@mail.com ]
    MAILED: Friday, August 16, 2002 8:28 AM
    SUBJECT: Consider This

    Greetings. It is indeed my pleasure to write you this email. This might
    come as a surprise to you, however, this is worth looking at. I am a staff
    with the Ministry of Minerals and Energy in South Africa, and by this
    email, I am representing and also acting on behalf of my boss and two other
    senior colleagues (The Director-General and the Group General Manager)
    whose mandate I have, to contact a trusted and reliable foreign based
    partner, concerning an investment opportunity/funds transfer.

    By this mandate given to me, we are in dire need of a foreign partner to
    assist us in the transfer /investment of $10,000,000.00 (Ten million United
    States Dollars.) The key issues is the transfer and the subsequent
    investment of the said sum. We are ready to go into an agreement with you
    and also "OFFER YOU A NEGOTIABLE FEE" IF you help us in securing the
    transfer and also PUTTING TOGETHER AN INVESTMENT PORTFOLIO in which
    the
    funds will be invested in your Country.

    It does not matter whether or not you own a company or you invested funds
    before, WE SHALL GUIDE YOU ON WHAT TO DO. The bases will be that a major
    company won a contract from my ministry and subcontracted it to you. More
    often, big trading companies and firms of unrelated fields win contract and
    subcontracts to more specialised firms for execution.

    We shall follow strictly all the legal procedures entailed in our laws and
    international laws in transferring the funds legitimately and
    authoritatively.

    Please, be informed that under the South African Government monetary
    policy, strategic positioned Government officials are not allowed to
    operate or own bank accounts overseas, hence our need for a "Foreign
    Partner to front for us".

    We pray that you take the essence of this letter in strict confidence, as
    the three officials involved would not like to be exposed on this, kindly
    notify me via this email box for further details, upon your acceptance to
    assist us, more details will be made available to you as soon as you reply.

    Thank you as I wait for your favourable response,

    Best Regards

    Thambo Mbeki

  84. Well, this is a change of pace by Nemus · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Weren't nanotechnology agents supposed to be ridding my body of disease, putting out fires, and building space stations right now? Now we'll be using a wax like substance to clean our shoes and using a toothpaste to repair our teeth. Methinks priorities may have changed.


    And I gotta agree with someone who posted above. When it comes to nanotechnology, which probably will be a cornerstone on science in years to come, and these are the applications the writer busts a hard on over, god help the man if he ever sees a porno. I mean come on, at least write about something I can't do by myself. I want tiny robots damn it! And flying F'in cars!

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    Mod Points: Helping you keep your opinion to yourself.
  85. Econ/Business Perspective by VoidEngineer · · Score: 0

    From an economist's or business person's perspective, that's one hell of an achievement. As near as I can figure, just about everybody in 1st world nations wear shoes. That means they've developed a new product which is marketable to every person on the planet who wears a pair of shoes.

    Figure $5/bottle. Figure 1 billion customers. You do the math.

    1. Re:Econ/Business Perspective by kruetz · · Score: 1
      But will everyone buy it? And does everyone polish shoes? I mean, I've NEVER polished my sneakers. I have one pair of leather shoes that get polished maybe 4 or 5 times a year when I use them ...

      the main thing is - will anyone BUY it? and will it be so cheap? I don't think so - not for a good while at least. The price will eventually come down, but even so ...

      --

      This sig intentionally left bla... dammit!
      Who's got the whiteout?
    2. Re:Econ/Business Perspective by goatasaur · · Score: 1

      "...just about everybody in 1st world nations wear shoes."

      True.

      "...marketable to every person on the planet who wears a pair of shoes."

      I don't think so. The only shoes I have that need regular polishing are ones I hardly wear. If a bottle of Nano-Polish is $5 and is good for ten polishings (or at least two), I will only need to buy a few every year.

      Even at $10 and one shoe only, that's maybe $60-$100 a year for most people. And at $20 (or $10) a pair, it'd be better to save the damn money and polish them yourself. There won't be much of a market for Nano-Polish unless/until it's cheaper than conventional polish. I mean, why use nanotechnology to clean your shoes when you can have illegal immigrants do it for pennies? Of course, it could get a hell of an advertising campaign and gross billions...

      I know the Nano-Polish situation is hypothetical, but it's applicable to nearly any small-time chore. To make a lateral comparison:

      Nano-Car-Wash-and-Wax would be something I'd invest in, but not Nano-Squeegee.

      --
      ~D:
    3. Re:Econ/Business Perspective by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you can get a *real* shoe shine, even in America still, for less than 5 bucks.

    4. Re:Econ/Business Perspective by Lordie · · Score: 1

      The smart thing to do isn't to sell to the consumer. License it to the shoemaker.

      The problem is, you'd have to fine-tune the length of time the shine stuff actually works. If every Nike shoe had built-in NikeShine, and NikeShine expired after 6 months of wear, Nike could possibly get you to buy more shoes per year than you do now, assuming you're the kind of person who likes clean-looking footwear, which is a majority of Nike's basketball shoe consumer.

    5. Re:Econ/Business Perspective by Mac+Degger · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Ah...but you forget it's not just for shoes...it's for jackets, !paper!, construction materials...do you have any idea whatsoever how much cleaning stuff (like buildings) costs? Or what about applying it to bridges, over the paint coat: goodbye dirt-errosion. Or what about those mirrored skyscrapers?

      But, geek that I am, I'm really waiting for that tooth whitening stuff to come out.

      --
      -- Waht? Tehr's a preveiw buottn?
    6. Re:Econ/Business Perspective by goatasaur · · Score: 1

      "Or what about those mirrored skyscrapers?"

      Of course for big projects like construction, nanotechnology can be useful.

      Look at Total Annihilation. You could build a command center in, like, twenty seconds.

      --
      ~D:
  86. IN SOVIET RUSSIA... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    The mass media owns the jews!

  87. How about this? by mehfu · · Score: 5, Funny

    Manufactured products are made from atoms.

    No shit, Sherlock...

    1. Re:How about this? by Hershmire · · Score: 1

      No shit, Sherlock...

      Keep digging, Watson. :/

      --
      if(!toilet_paper) roll.replace(new roll); //Stupid roommates.
  88. blast processing by QEDog · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If I hate something more than a buzzword (remember Blast Processing and the Sega Genesis?), is an article that is just about a buzzword.

    --
    "There is no teacher but the enemy."-Mazer Rackham
    1. Re:blast processing by joe_bruin · · Score: 3, Funny

      fool, blast processing was a technology developed by sega exclusively for the the genesis (aka 'megadrive' in europe and asia) which allowed programmers to blast data through the processor. how do you think they got sonic the hedgehog to go that fast?
      this amazing technology was unmatched until sony developed the custom "emotion chip", which enabled programming much more emotion into video games. that is why the ps2 is great for doughy-eyed anime games, whereas the xbox is only good for emotionless sports games.

      i'm still waiting for someone to come up with a porn-optimized video compression codec. something that is good with skin tones and has good motion-prediction for repetitive back-and forth movements.

  89. MOD PARENT UP! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    This sounds like a great opportunity!!!

  90. MASTER TROLL! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    are you hear to replace SexyKellyOsbourne?

  91. we have to get into this again? by frozencesium · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ok...most of us know all of this already. we all know that nano tech can be a great service...longer battery life, clothes that clean themselves, etc...

    what they don't mention are the possible negitive effects. it's like atomic power...great benifit, possibly nasty applications. to apply nano tech to consumer goods is one thing, but to use it to make weapons is quite another (on a morality scale). this technology is more highly adaptive than anything else we have seen before.

    governments the world over have been toying with nano tech to make weapons that kill more efficently, are more easily hidden, etc. what happens when common street thugs can "make" their own weapons with nano tech? what happens when countries that have firearms bans (uk, australia, others) have people running arround with nanotech weapons that are small and more leathal than the standard lead slug fired by a gun today? how do you track things like this? what happens when the government/corperation/etc decides to make a nanotech listening device out of the paint in your home?

    this is a tech that is to be truly feared and respected. remember...technology is only as good as those who use it.

    -frozen

    --
    I'm not always the brightest pixel in the stream
    1. Re:we have to get into this again? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

      thanks for the insight, asshole.

    2. Re:we have to get into this again? by VoidEngineer · · Score: 0

      I remember seeing some concept demos for nanotech that involved pooring a bunch of nanotech goop onto the ground, sticking some computer control device, shaped like a stake, into the ground, and the nanogoop proceeded to assemble weapons from the raw elements in the ground. I think that Cid Meier's Alpha Centuari demoed a similar concept.

      I've also read some reports about nano-systems which are being designed for survelliance and information gathering. The idea is that they are aerosol based and act as tiny mirrors floating in the air. They have a tiny control device which collects light rays bounced from the nanoparticles, and which reassembles the light rays into a video stream, which is then transmitted to a survelliance team.

      Aldus Huxley should be rolling over in his grave with the advent of such technology.

    3. Re:we have to get into this again? by Militant+Pedestrian · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Science fiction authors like Bruce Sterling and Rudy Rucker have addressed your worries in many of their works, check it out. Their conclusion is that this deadly technology will be combated with, well, more technology. That's how things have always happened.

    4. Re:we have to get into this again? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      this is a tech that is to be truly feared and respected
      Come on, the telephone has enormous military applications, but we still use it.
  92. ... You will ... by ThresholdRPG · · Score: 3, Insightful

    These outrageous claims remind me of the old AT&T commercials:

    "Ever had a robot that did all your household chores, cooked your meals, ran your errands, and looked like it came from http://www.realdoll.com?... ...
    No? ...
    You will! ...
    And the company that will bring it to you is AT&T."

    Of course, nothing they promised ever got delivered, and certainly not by AT&T.

    --

    -Michael
    Threshold RPG
    1. Re:... You will ... by frohike · · Score: 4, Funny
      Of course, nothing they promised ever got delivered, and certainly not by AT&T.

      Not so, my friend! They had one that went:

      "Ever send a fax from the beach? You will..."

      The product that the person in the commercial was using is the AT&T EO. My friend had one... it was a funky notebook page sized PDA that had a real OS, a windowing system and everything. I even hacked on it on a road trip once so we could use it as a serial terminal to get to the Linux box we had booted in the car to listen to MP3s (Yes, that's ultimately geeky, but it was cool! :)

    2. Re:... You will ... by blincoln · · Score: 1

      The product that the person in the commercial was using is the AT&T EO.

      What a pity there was no Michael Jackson endorsement.

      --
      "...always new atoms but always doing the same dance, remembering what the dance was yesterday." -Richard Feynman
  93. Found the last link I was looking for by Dan+B. · · Score: 3, Informative

    Here's the link to the article on the BASF website.

    --
    Dan. -- So what if it's spelt wrong, nobody's perfect
  94. Diamond age by kEnder242 · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'm still waiting for my mediatronic chopsticks.

    --
    my associative arrays can kick your hash - TCL
  95. Where's the "news"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    This is a recap of press releases issued from 1999-2002. Seriously! They're even ordered chronologically in the thesis paragraph. I realize this because I've been keeping a local archive of every mnt-related press release that I've come across since 1998.

    It's a well-written piece, a good article for the site it's on, and I wouldn't think it out of place in "USA Today" or "Popular Science," but why does a pointer to it belong on Slashdot? The newest piece of information in the article is about the "lotus effect cling", which was 'news' in 2001!

    1. Re:Where's the "news"? by zsau · · Score: 1

      I wouldn't think it out of place in "USA Today"

      Oo... I dunno.. The Age is a Melburnian paper... which makes it Australian.

      which was 'news' in 2001!

      So it's right on schedule for slashdot then? (Unless it's a FreeBSD release, in which case it's three years late.)

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      Look out!
  96. BASF doesn't make a lot of the killer nanotech by saddino · · Score: 5, Funny

    Bill Joy warned about. BASF makes a lot of the killer nanotech Bill Joy warned about better.

  97. Time, Indeterminate Gender Mac User! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Time to determine whether you're still a useless, annoying twit who isn't want here.

    Yep, you are!

  98. Got it right here for ya by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Yeah, I've got some tantalizing nanotech...

    IN MY PANTS!!!

    1. Re:Got it right here for ya by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh come on... ...You can't be that small.

  99. Imagine never having to polish your shoes again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    umm.... I'm trying... nope never polished my shoes [boots] before, can't imagine polishing them again.

  100. Hydrogen power cells by tekunokurato · · Score: 1

    They're not batteries, they're just hydrogen power cells, just like we've been hearing about forever.

    Also, for those who said hours is not a measure of power, you're idiots. It was placed in a strong context. read the article next time.

    1. Re:Hydrogen power cells by mvdw · · Score: 1

      Also, for those who said hours is not a measure of power, you're idiots.

      Methinks you is the idiot, unless you meant energy where you wrote power...

  101. Re:Timothy, my kid reads this site,FUCK YOU EAGLES by YellowSnow · · Score: 1

    I pity your kids with such a foul mouthed hypocritical TROLL of a father

  102. Self-cleaning shoe by zobier · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The general reason my shoes look crusty is from scuffing NOT dirt.

    The wax coating for the "Lotus-Effekt" (from the BASF Article, 9 paragraphs down, under the heading "Nanotechnology means learning from nature") will still be susceptible to this.

    --
    Me lost me cookie at the disco.
  103. I have some of these 10-hour batteries... by thedji · · Score: 0, Redundant

    I call them "two double-a batteries"

    I can normally get at least a good ten hours playtime out of my Gameboy Advance with 2 AA batteries.

    These consoles really are ahead of their time :)

    --
    ... and then there were none
    1. Re:I have some of these 10-hour batteries... by Qender · · Score: 1

      I think they meant 10-hour laptop batteries.

  104. More like tiny refillable propane tanks by pla · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Recharging them isn't a simple matter of plugging them in the wall as it is now... you've got to replace the hydrogen (or other fuel, most people seem focused on hydrogen for some inane reason, even though it's hard to make and doesn't have much energy content).

    True. "Recharging" a fuel cell will not just involve plugging them into the wall (unless someone makes a *MAJOR* breakthrough in both electrolysis techniques and hydrogen storage).

    Most likely, it would work more like a cross between "normal" batteries, and the sort of propane tanks people use for BBQ grills. You would buy a 6-pack of methanol cartridges, roughly the size and shape of an AA battery (as a hypothetical example, of course... I have no more knowledge of future fuel-cell-form-factors than anyone else ). You'd pop them into your electricity-consuming device, just like normal batteries. The actual functional bits of the fuel cell would form a part of the electricity consuming device (or some sort of hip-pack to support legacy devices until everything takes the standard size fuel cell cartridges), and it would simply "drink" from the cartridges you plug in.

    When you have a pile of empty cartridges, you'd take them back to the store for a rebate, a lot like recycling an aluminum can. Except, to reuse them, we wouldn't need to melt them down and make a whole new fuel cell, we'd simply refill them. The stores themselves might have some means of doing this, or they might just send them on to some sort of regional refilling center, but the whole process would (could, anyway) involve very little waste.

    Of course, I only describe the *SENSIBLE* way to do it. More likely we'd actually build the entire functional fuel cell as a single encapsulated unit, complete with fuel *and* nasty chemistry for the catalyst; ship them across country both ways in a hideously polluting diesel 18-wheeler; and we'd make them out of a plastic that for reasons no one understands, we can't reuse, so they go to the landfill and we waste even *more* petroleum making more plastic.

    But hey, what do I know. I need to stop acting so optimistic all the time. ;-)

    1. Re:More like tiny refillable propane tanks by platypus · · Score: 2, Insightful


      More likely we'd actually build the entire functional fuel cell as a single encapsulated unit, complete with fuel *and* nasty chemistry for the catalyst; ship them across country both ways in a hideously polluting diesel 18-wheeler; and we'd make them out of a plastic that for reasons no one understands, we can't reuse, so they go to the landfill and we waste even *more* petroleum making more plastic.


      You forgot to mention that the fuel cells (or cartridges - this name shows where I am heading) from different manufacturers of i.e. notebooks, will not be compatible. Notebook producers will build small chips into these cartridges, which are protected by patents, locking out potential third party cartridge manufacturers. The prices of notebooks will dramatically go down, while the cartridges will get suspiciously expensive ...

    2. Re:More like tiny refillable propane tanks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except the most likely candidate for future fuel cells are membrane based cells, which seem to use platinum as a catalyst. Maybe in the future we will all be very, very rich.

  105. 3-d Circut Boards... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    I actually came across anarticle in wired quite a while ago. It was the typical stuff at the time, i.e. almost a "vaporware" type article, when nano and bio where the hot new prefixes and every tech magazine was scrambling to get coverage. However, there was something I found extremely interesting that is relevant here, as apparently it is one of the possible methods of implementing nano ICs...three dimensionals circut boards.. I googled a little and didnt come up with much besides this blog entry apparently from some scientist working with this stuff in an R&D program for a company in europe somewhere. Anyways, if anyone has further knowledge on the topic id be extremly interested, as I am sure others would be too.

  106. How long before... by Jace+of+Fuse! · · Score: 1

    Everytime I hear about Nanotechnology I keep thinking about the Nanolathes in Total Annihilation!

    --

    "Everything you know is wrong. (And stupid.)"

    Moderation Totals: Wrong=2, Stupid=3, Total=5.
  107. Imagine... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Imagine a Beowulf cluster of these!

    Now imagine dropping it and losing it in the carpet!

  108. multi-tasking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is when she's already down there, might as well clean his shoes. It's called multi-tasking. ;)

  109. Drexler by nanobug · · Score: 5, Interesting

    At the last Foresight Conference Eric Drexler expressed his frustration at the amount of hype and effort going into research and development on this psuedo nanotechnology. Everyone is jumping on the bandwagon and getting "nano" into their products.

    Real nanotechnology, often called molecular nanotechnology, consists of actual manipulation of atoms into molecules and structures with useful properties, and will make most of the current claims of nano products look extremely weak. But no-one knows exactly how to do it just yet!

    Lots of progress is being made on the research front, and they will get there, but anyone who tells you they have nanotechnology products available now or in the near future are talking about the weak versions of nanotechnology that have been around for thousands of years. See here for a better description of the distinction between weak and strong nanotechnology.

    1. Re:Drexler by Goldsmith · · Score: 2, Informative

      Interesting article, it's not often you list science fiction in the credits of something trying to be scientific. The way I see it, "nanotechnology" will be its own field in a couple decades, much like computer science is today relative to physics and math.

      The whole point is that tiny robots which can build anything are a very, very long way off. The only way it's going to happen is through this "hype and effort" that's going into "weak" nanotechnology.

      As far as moving atoms around (including bonding, unbonding, exciting states) one at a time to make things... no problem. Dr. Ho can "see" and manipulate the electron clouds surrounding an atom (pretty damn cool if you ask me).

  110. neither are Amp-hours by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Really, you need to go by watt hours. This is because no battery has a totally flat discharge curve. For example, a LIon battery is rated at 3.6V but really spends the vast majority of its battery life at about 3.9V.

    So if you take the rated voltage times the total amp-hours drawn you get a misleading number.

    Watt-Hours. That's the way.

    1. Re:neither are Amp-hours by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you sure it maintains the 3.9V under load?

  111. In 30 years... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In 30 years they'll figure out...

    How to scan any object like an apple down to the atomic level and store that in a PC and then reconstruct the apple from the stored pattern. World starvation solved.

    How to reclaim the matter that would normally be thrown out in the trash or go down the toilet and separate the atoms so that they could be used for the apples in above example. Some environmental problems solved.

    Kind of first example but... how to create a catalog of commonly eaten organic fruits and vegeatables such that we can deallocate most of the farmland we stole from nature and give it back as wetlands and such. More environmentaland health problems solved.

    How to make a pefect copy of any CD/DVD such that there is no difference from the bought version and a copy. RIAA/MPAA problem solved. :)

    1. Re:In 30 years... by Qender · · Score: 1

      Ohhh, ohhh. Can we copy people too?

  112. What? by Feztaa · · Score: 3, Funny

    fruit juices get their rainbow of colours from tiny particles that dissolve in liquid and disappear without a trace.

    Yes, it's called "Kool-Aid powder"...

  113. BASF by Hubert_Shrump · · Score: 1

    We make nano-things... Nano-er?

    --
    Keep your packets off my GNU/Girlfriend!
  114. that's because... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    ...that's because the company (the top level people I mean), as has been pointed out in another reply, is the direct descendant of freaking immoral demonic nazis. Their progeny are still the bosses and driving force. Nazism never went away, it just went "respectably" underground, in europe and into south and north america. The US version was operation paperclip among others. So, stealing other's work is chump change candy stealing to them.

  115. "real" nanotechnology by panurge · · Score: 1
    Oh dear. nyaar nyaar nyaar, your version (technologies we can actually use) isn't "real" like my technology that - er - doesn't exist yet.

    So what exactly does "real" mean here? If you can arrange the shape of molecules to create particular functionality, does the technology matter? It's a bit like arguing that piece of metal A is inferior to piece of metal B because A was cast to shape in a mold and B was carved from a black by a machining centre. The real question is surely, which is best fitted for its putpose?

    --
    Panurge has posted for the last time. Thanks for the positive moderations.
    1. Re:"real" nanotechnology by Sdrawcab · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The imaginary "molecular nanotechnology" is like having a fully automatic 3-axis CNC mill, while the current "nanotech" is like a blacksmith hammering away. Its all a matter of sophistication.

  116. By what definition of "nanotech" is this nanotech? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Because this sort of thing is called "chemistry" or maybe "material research" but not nanotech at all.

  117. Amazing!!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "My Watch Battery has lasted for 4 years now, and it is only small! Could we give London 4 years of unlimited powerf ro 4 years on a watch battery? Why hasnt anyone else thought of this, i am going to patent the idea and become rich"

    Crap Stories, Crap Comments

  118. At BASF by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    we don't make explosions, we make them bigger.

  119. When Nanotech Goes Horribly Wrong by Bowie+J.+Poag · · Score: 1



    The CIA is already spraying villages in Africa with government-synthesized nano. It was meant to be used as a "smart exfoliant"..Rather than run in there with an army of bulldozers and pissing everyone off, we're dropping lumberjack nano in there to clear large areas of dense forest. Why? to lay oil pipelines in West Africa under the guise of improving Africa's economy:

    Buruli Busters

    Since the only way to kill the nano is to deprive it of sunlight and dissolve it, theyre packing mud onto all the people who've been afflicted with it in order to kill it off.

    Oh well, it was the thought that counts.

    PS.. I just made all that shit up on the spot. Ha-ha, gullible, arentcha?

    --
    Bowie J. Poag

    1. Re:When Nanotech Goes Horribly Wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yes, very gullible. i totally thought that was real.
      do you have a lot of time on your hands or something ?

  120. At BASF by Mysticalfruit · · Score: 1

    We don't make the things you buy, we make the things you buy with nanobots better...

    --
    Yes Francis, the world has gone crazy.
  121. Re: mold-proof houses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Welcome to the 20th century.
    Well, perhaps this is still a novelty in your part of the world :-p

  122. imagine the added security needed... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    at airports, government buildings, elsewhere when small nanoparticles could be sprinkled about that work to consume metal and concrete.

    Someday we may be asked to remove more than our shoes when we travel.

  123. redefine your job by instarx · · Score: 1
    Fruit juice gets its color from tiny particles that disappear without a trace! Duh, of course it does! Solids dissolve in liquids all the time and change the color.

    Chemists put a UV absorbing solid into suspension and then sell it as sunscreen - and its nanotechnology!? I don't think so. Since when is making a wax similar to a plant leaf wax called nanotechnology? Just because someone uses atoms and molecules and small particles to make things doesn't make it nanotechnology in my book - it makes it chemistry.