I think the OSS is going to have a lot of problems in the future because I see a time where there is going to be conflicts w/ the OSS and Corporations. The recent article in (CNET?) which quoted an IBM spokesperson as saying that they will defend the OSS community by not using their (IBM's) patent's against the community. But at the end of his comment he did say that IBM could use the patents if it felt it needed to protect itself.
Now, I know that the big players like IBM are helping to spread the popularity but I could easily see it becoming a major problem for the OSS community. I def. don't think anyone could stop OSS but big companies could and will down the road place big roadblocks.
Yes! I was just about the reply w/ the same thing. I swear people need a lesson in OSS to learn that they should shut up and respect the fact that the software is free and that people put their free time into it. (I know some get paid).
Yes, it was borrowed like many things. Just like the Romans "borrowed" the works and ideas of the Greeks. It's funny how everyone always tries to portray Muslims as invaders. I'll assume your Indian since you are labeled "Anonymous Coward", but there was a lot of culture brought by Muslims to that part of the world, and it's no surprise that one of the key symbols of India , the Taj Mahal, was made by the Muslims who lived in what is present day India, and still do.
But getting back to the base-10 system. It was the Muslims who made extensive use of it after adopting it from the Indians, and according to some it was the Muslims who actually introduced the idea of zero. And like the previous poster said the Islamic world was the strongest empire in those times and because of the trade with Europe and later the crusades, Westerners came to believe that the base-10 was a Muslim invention. In fact, in present day Baghdad, there was a place called the "House of Wisdom" , (bait-al-hikma) it was a place where scholars from all over the world (literally) came and translated texts as far back as from the Greeks. Then more knowledge was created and expanded upon. This is where a lot of the Muslim contributions to medicine, math, astronomy, and astrology came from.
Here's a fun trivia, we're all pretty much computer people, well the word "Algorithm" is derived from Al-Khwarizmi , an Uzbeck(?) Muslim who did a lot of work in Algebra. And the word Algebra comes from Al-Jabar.
The reason that this (the spread of knowledge throughout
Muslim lands) happened was due to the abolishing of all the old works, as far back as the Greeks from Byzantium, and those people who were persecuted by the New Holy Roman Empire fled eastwards only to find a thriving civilization that greeted them in open arms. The European Rennianssance, which came about centuries later, began as the work of re-translating all the old texts, (the work of Ptolemy, Aristotle, etc..) from Arabic and Syriac, into Latin (the work of re-translating into Latin was done mainly by European Jews). In fact, if it wasn't for the Muslims and their translation efforts in the 8th century most of the old Greek works would have disappeared from existence.
If you are interested in learning more about how Muslims have actually benefited the world then a great book is:
Because it is a problem. It's not allowing people in those particular communities who actually might be interested in learning about evolution, cosmos, etc. based on the opinions of some who think that these topics are blasphemous. It's not even a standard. What about free thought?; how do you expect a society to progress if you begin to control reasonable thought?
No one has the right or should have the right to attack these documentaries when there is such "crap" (excuse me) on TV that goes on without a fuss. How can people even think about banning documentaries, its just hypocrisy. These are probably the same people who tune in every night to catch a glimpse of preacher O'Reilly.
you're right, things are getting messed up. I'm actually kind of surprised by this. Oh, just remember not everyone fits in your listed sterotypes. I'm a Muslim and hate everything against progress and organization. And it's not like Muslims are against progress they just don't want an American imposed one. Anyway, enough religious talk.
I haven't been back to a Best Buy ever since buying my laptop and that was quite a long time ago. It's a bit embarrassing but I got suckerd into buying a "service plan" for my laptop, only to realize that it really wasn't worth it.
And like what a lot of you have said, I also find it odd how the clerks always mention , "I don't work on commission." , its obvious they have been trained to say this, as if Best Buy thinks that if their clerks say these 5 magic words customers will think that the clerks are doing everything in their ability to help the buyer.
Thats nuts, the students will mainly be used to Microsoft products. It will only cause more of a head ache for the University. For example, in my college there are plenty of nice, brand new, iMacs (running Mac OS X 10.2) , which IMHO is a very easy to use OS, yet I hear complaints almost daily by students on how much they hate macs and can't use anything but windows simply because they are used to it. Its astonishing but its reality.
And so you say that America should control everything pertaining to nuclear weapons, that it should dictate to the world on what they can and can't do when the only country in the world that ever used nuclear weapons on people is America. America continues to build bombs, incl. new and deadlier planes, rockets, laser systems, etc. but no other country in the world can do the same. Quite arrogant isn't it?
I think its great that North Korea doesn't adhere to America's demands. Not doing so doesn't make them bad. Whose demands does the fucking US adhere to? Just remember it was the bloody imperialists from the West that divided the country as they did with Vietnam,India-Pakistan, and Palestine. Can't say too much good about those situations as well, now can we??
This is not something that writing your congressman can fix. The problem is in the American feeling of superiority that emanates from all walks of life. When America and its citizens realize that they are not the only important people in the world, things WILL change. If this isn't realized soon, then no one should feel sorry for America when shit happens to her.
What about all the Animal beastiality (Animal Sex) sites that exist in America? What about those nice blonds (a supposed idea of American beauty) sticking Animal Parts in their privates? Or is that OK since the doggie will like it?
I truly hope that JvMatthe isn't try to imply that only a war can SAVE THE PATENTS! Killing other people during WWI didn't solve the patent problem for good now did it. The problem lies with the American gov't, and how the Patent Offices work. Solve Those Problems. Instead of constant complaints -- Do Something, that is what everyone in America should tell themselves for the Patent issue to be resloved. Thank You.
thank god somebody said it, dvorak is so full of it.
I think the OSS is going to have a lot of problems in the future because I see a time where there is going to be conflicts w/ the OSS and Corporations. The recent article in (CNET?) which quoted an IBM spokesperson as saying that they will defend the OSS community by not using their (IBM's) patent's against the community. But at the end of his comment he did say that IBM could use the patents if it felt it needed to protect itself.
Now, I know that the big players like IBM are helping to spread the popularity but I could easily see it becoming a major problem for the OSS community. I def. don't think anyone could stop OSS but big companies could and will down the road place big roadblocks.
Yes! I was just about the reply w/ the same thing.
I swear people need a lesson in OSS to learn that they should shut up and respect the fact that the software is free and that people put their free time into it. (I know some get paid).
No way man! you would def. die.
Yes, it was borrowed like many things. Just like the Romans "borrowed" the works and ideas of the Greeks. It's funny how everyone always tries to portray Muslims as invaders. I'll assume your Indian since you are labeled "Anonymous Coward", but there was a lot of culture brought by Muslims to that part of the world, and it's no surprise that one of the key symbols of India , the Taj Mahal, was made by the Muslims who lived in what is present day India, and still do. But getting back to the base-10 system. It was the Muslims who made extensive use of it after adopting it from the Indians, and according to some it was the Muslims who actually introduced the idea of zero. And like the previous poster said the Islamic world was the strongest empire in those times and because of the trade with Europe and later the crusades, Westerners came to believe that the base-10 was a Muslim invention. In fact, in present day Baghdad, there was a place called the "House of Wisdom" , (bait-al-hikma) it was a place where scholars from all over the world (literally) came and translated texts as far back as from the Greeks. Then more knowledge was created and expanded upon. This is where a lot of the Muslim contributions to medicine, math, astronomy, and astrology came from. Here's a fun trivia, we're all pretty much computer people, well the word "Algorithm" is derived from Al-Khwarizmi , an Uzbeck(?) Muslim who did a lot of work in Algebra. And the word Algebra comes from Al-Jabar.
Muslims and Math
The reason that this (the spread of knowledge throughout Muslim lands) happened was due to the abolishing of all the old works, as far back as the Greeks from Byzantium, and those people who were persecuted by the New Holy Roman Empire fled eastwards only to find a thriving civilization that greeted them in open arms. The European Rennianssance, which came about centuries later, began as the work of re-translating all the old texts, (the work of Ptolemy, Aristotle, etc..) from Arabic and Syriac, into Latin (the work of re-translating into Latin was done mainly by European Jews). In fact, if it wasn't for the Muslims and their translation efforts in the 8th century most of the old Greek works would have disappeared from existence. If you are interested in learning more about how Muslims have actually benefited the world then a great book is:
Greek Thought, Arabic Culture
I hope you see now that there is a lot more to Muslims than what most people think and get a feel for from the Media.
Because it is a problem. It's not allowing people in those particular communities who actually might be interested in learning about evolution, cosmos, etc. based on the opinions of some who think that these topics are blasphemous. It's not even a standard. What about free thought?; how do you expect a society to progress if you begin to control reasonable thought?
No one has the right or should have the right to attack these documentaries when there is such "crap" (excuse me) on TV that goes on without a fuss. How can people even think about banning documentaries, its just hypocrisy. These are probably the same people who tune in every night to catch a glimpse of preacher O'Reilly.
you're right, things are getting messed up. I'm actually kind of surprised by this.
Oh, just remember not everyone fits in your listed sterotypes. I'm a Muslim and hate everything against progress and organization. And it's not like Muslims are against progress they just don't want an American imposed one. Anyway, enough religious talk.
I haven't been back to a Best Buy ever since buying my laptop and that was quite a long time ago. It's a bit embarrassing but I got suckerd into buying a "service plan" for my laptop, only to realize that it really wasn't worth it.
And like what a lot of you have said, I also find it odd how the clerks always mention , "I don't work on commission." , its obvious they have been trained to say this, as if Best Buy thinks that if their clerks say these 5 magic words customers will think that the clerks are doing everything in their ability to help the buyer.
C'Mon give me a break!
Hey this is amazing , a senior level programmer running for President!
"So the US position is to try to avoid chaos"
Jackass, the US loves chaos, thats how it stays in power.
Avoid chaos, then why has the US been in every war in the 20+ century. Why is it the only nation to use and continue to use nuclear weapons.
I hate this BASTARD so much, he's definitely on my list of big losers! You hear that Darl, you fuck!
That was some funny stuff. Nice waste of 10 mins.
Anyone know anymore like Zombo Com?
Thats nuts, the students will mainly be used to Microsoft products. It will only cause more of a head ache for the University. For example, in my college there are plenty of nice, brand new, iMacs (running Mac OS X 10.2) , which IMHO is a very easy to use OS, yet I hear complaints almost daily by students on how much they hate macs and can't use anything but windows simply because they are used to it. Its astonishing but its reality.
And so you say that America should control everything pertaining to nuclear weapons, that it should dictate to the world on what they can and can't do when the only country in the world that ever used nuclear weapons on people is America.
America continues to build bombs, incl. new and deadlier planes, rockets, laser systems, etc. but no other country in the world can do the same. Quite arrogant isn't it?
Its all on http://www.wisconsinproject.org/
What about all the rockets Israel Shoots into crowded Palestinian streets, killing and injurying so many innocents?
Like this could be for real...
Look at the damn unnecessary extravagance these people place into their lives. Sad Sad!
Nobody deserves this much.
I think its great that North Korea doesn't adhere to America's demands. Not doing so doesn't make them bad. Whose demands does the fucking US adhere to? Just remember it was the bloody imperialists from the West that divided the country as they did with Vietnam,India-Pakistan, and Palestine. Can't say too much good about those situations as well, now can we??
The U.N. decree also says that a country has the right to build weapons to protect herself. Damn Anonymous Coward! I Pity the Fool!
This is not something that writing your congressman can fix.
The problem is in the American feeling of superiority that emanates from all walks of life.
When America and its citizens realize that they are not the only important people in the world, things WILL change.
If this isn't realized soon, then no one should feel sorry for America when shit happens to her.
What about all the Animal beastiality (Animal Sex) sites that exist in America? What about those nice blonds (a supposed idea of American beauty) sticking Animal Parts in their privates?
Or is that OK since the doggie will like it?
Answer that you FAG!
Go China!
This is what i'm talking about. Go China.
Tell those MS and Intel bastards that the rest of the world still rules!
Yeah!
I truly hope that JvMatthe isn't try to imply that only a war can SAVE THE PATENTS! Killing other people during WWI didn't solve the patent problem for good now did it. The problem lies with the American gov't, and how the Patent Offices work. Solve Those Problems. Instead of constant complaints -- Do Something, that is what everyone in America should tell themselves for the Patent issue to be resloved.
Thank You.
I heard, you heard, its a god damn operating system!!!!!!!
see if you like it and use it. just remember its a god damn operating system!!!!!!!