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Paper Mounted CPUs

Roland Piquepaille writes "Rafe Needleman discovered an interesting young Swedish company which is printing really cheap chips. "The company, Cypak, has technology to mount a very small microprocessor, which it created, on paper (or inside a credit card), as well as a technique to print sensors, switches, and very short-range antennae on the same paper, using special conductive inks." Here is one possible application designed for drug trials. "Drug trials need data about how and when subjects consume the drugs being tested. In this application, a pill pack registers when individual pills are popped out of their plastic bubbles; it then can beep and ask the user a question like, 'Are you feeling better today? Press Yes or No.' (The answer buttons are on the pack itself.) When the patient visits the doctor, the package is placed on a Cypak reader and the data is downloaded to the physician's computer." Visit this page for more information about Cypak or read the full Business 2.0 article."

154 comments

  1. Smart Toilet Paper by chrispix · · Score: 5, Funny

    I am waiting for smart toilet paper so it can tell me when I have wiped enough.. No more brown streaks!!

    1. Re:Smart Toilet Paper by Odin's+Raven · · Score: 2, Funny
      I am waiting for smart toilet paper so it can tell me when I have wiped enough.. No more brown streaks!!

      Errrr...isn't the toilet paper supposed to have those brown streaks on it? ;-)

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    2. Re:Smart Toilet Paper by Chocolate+Teapot · · Score: 1

      Smart Ass!

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    3. Re:Smart Toilet Paper by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, Smart Ass© is copyrighted ass munch!!

    4. Re:Smart Toilet Paper by crgrace · · Score: 1

      Your sig doesn't beg the question at all. "Begging the question" means presupposing your conclusion. It is similar to a circular argument. It does NOT mean a question that begs to be asked.

    5. Re:Smart Toilet Paper by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's easy. You have wiped enough when the brown streaks in the toilet paper are lighter in color than the skidmarks in your tighty-whiteys.

    6. Re:Smart Toilet Paper by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      you're begging to be punched, superpedantic boy!

    7. Re:Smart Toilet Paper by wan23 · · Score: 1

      Is that what color its supposed to be? Uh oh...

    8. Re:Smart Toilet Paper by Odin's+Raven · · Score: 1
      "You're so sharp you'll cut yourself"
      --The Way of Mrs Cosmopilite

      The sig comes from Terry Pratchett's "Thief of Time", but the attribution was truncated. I apologize with all appropriate sincerity for the mental anguish this has obviously caused you.

      Do not try to understand the sig. That's impossible. Instead, only try to realize the truth.
      There is no sig.

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    9. Re:Smart Toilet Paper by davidkw · · Score: 1

      errr.... he's not refering to streaks on the toilet paper.... obviously, he stops wiping too sooon

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  2. Minority Report by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Talking cereal boxes, anyone?

  3. Just watch out by Op7imus_Prim3 · · Score: 3, Funny

    for the buffer overflow errors from happy prozac patients pushing yes one too many times.

  4. Hrmm by acehole · · Score: 2, Funny

    At last, I can have a paper aeroplane that I can program to seek and destroy.

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    1. Re:Hrmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Seek and destroy with what? Paper cuts?

    2. Re:Hrmm by _ph1ux_ · · Score: 1

      Apparently, you have never been hit in the eye with a paper plane sent at mach .001 from across the class.

    3. Re:Hrmm by drinkypoo · · Score: 1
      Holy shit, this is brilliant! All you need to add to the paper is a gyro on a chip (readily available) and some pieces of memory wire to bend the paper. If you have enough processing power you can make a smart self-flying glider out of paper. It still wouldn't be self-guiding but maybe you could make it radio controlled.

      Dear lord, it's like a dream. Radio controlled paper airplanes. THIS is the killer app for this technology, mark my words.

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      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
  5. Gives new meaning to the expression by Zog+The+Undeniable · · Score: 4, Interesting
    "Cheap as chips".

    For uninitiated readers, this is the catch phrase of current student TV favourite David Dickinson on his UK "Bargain Hunt" show.

    More seriously, one of these would be a really good idea for books - you could get it to remember which page you were on without a bookmark (or bending over the corner of the page, as is my habit).

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    1. Re:Gives new meaning to the expression by Queuetue · · Score: 1

      For any other people who experience life through thier televisions, this phrase is used by just about everyone who lives in the UK, Mr. Dickinson included.

    2. Re:Gives new meaning to the expression by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ..or not. At least not in Scotland.

  6. Overclock? by Professor+North · · Score: 3, Funny

    I wonder whether or not something along the lines of a Mad fold-in will hold overclocking potential....

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    1. Re:Overclock? by _ph1ux_ · · Score: 1

      Brings a whole new permanance to "Crash and Burn" when you dont get 'Tab A' and 'Tab B' to perfectly match up...

  7. Text from the "blog" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    so you dont have to /. fella's "blog", why you had to link it is beyond me when all he is doing is quoting the business text anyway, maybe he is short on hits to read his dribble and rantings and thought slasdot might be interested


    Cypak mounts
    CPUs on paper. Can disposable PCs be far off?

    Rafe Needleman discovered an interesting young Swedish company which is
    printing really cheap chips. Here are some excerpts of his article,
    "Coming Soon: Printed Computers."


    The company, Cypak , has technology to mount
    a very small microprocessor, which it created, on paper (or inside a credit
    card), as well as a technique to print sensors, switches, and very short-range
    antennae on the same paper, using special conductive inks.

    Here is one possible application designed for drug trials.


    Drug trials need data about how and when subjects consume the drugs
    being tested. In this application, a pill pack registers when individual pills
    are popped out of their plastic bubbles; it then can beep and ask the
    user a question like, "Are you feeling better today? Press Yes or No."

    (The answer buttons are on the pack itself.) When the patient visits the doctor,
    the package is placed on a Cypak reader and the data is downloaded to the
    physician's computer.

    Certus, a drug-testing company, has just begun testing Cypak's
    technology. Compared with logging and "compliance" products that use more
    traditional computer parts and sensors, the Cypak technology is less expensive.
    The chips embedded in the paper drug packages cost only a buck or two, and the
    scanners that read the data from the used packages are inexpensive as well --
    less than $10, Cypak CEO Jakob Ehrensvärd says. Also, the data is more reliable
    than the logs that patients might keep.

    Rafe Needleman is quite optimistic about Cypak's future.


    It's clear that more and more items, like shipping boxes, eventually
    will be able to monitor themselves, and that an increasing number of devices
    will support some kind of authentication feature. Cypak-like technology will
    play a part in this.

    Cypak's technology currently costs a dollar or more per unit. That's
    pretty cheap for a computer, but still too expensive for everyday products.
    Still, there are solid industry-specific applications for this technology --
    enough, most likely, to make a success out of Cypak.

    More information about Cypaq's intelligent pharmaceutical packaging can be
    found at their Electronic
    Compliance Packaging webpage.


  8. Other applications by ndnet · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Couldn't this also be used for some unsavory applications? Such as: making sure you read your printed EULA, tracking paper files through a building, etc.

    1. Re:Other applications by JohnFluxx · · Score: 1

      Making sure you read the eula seems like a good thing...

    2. Re:Other applications by transient · · Score: 2, Funny
      unsavory applications ... tracking paper files through a building

      I am well aware that some Slashdotters are paranoid about privacy rights and I make no judgement on that, but seriously dude, what planet are you from?

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    3. Re:Other applications by Conspiracy_Of_Doves · · Score: 1

      Umm, how exactly would it do that? A CPU on a chip is one thing, but how would it tell if someone's eyes are scanning it?

    4. Re:Other applications by The+Only+Druid · · Score: 1

      Among other ways, you could have something analagous to how in some current EULAs you have to scroll to the bottom of the text to find the "yes I agree" button. In the case of the paper, for example, you could have a sticker over the "I agree" part, where a sensor detects whether or not it was exposed to light, possibly remembering the timestamp, etc.

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    5. Re:Other applications by Bvardi · · Score: 1

      You're right! And furthermore paper itself can be used for unsavory applications (Cease and desist letters to overzealously protect copyright, using as kindling to set things on fire, and not to mention what happens if some psychopath decides to use it to give everyone some nasty papercuts!)

      Actually... just about everything out there can be used for unsavory applications - it takes a similar set of sensors to monitor a critically ill patient and to build your average lie detector, a knife can be used to cut bread or to threaten another human being. I don't see cheap CPU and (very) short range antennas being the fall of modern civilization as yet.

      Not unless they use this in printing money and every time I open my wallet a small electronic voice says "Do you REALLY want to spend your last 60 bucks on a video game and starve til payday?"

    6. Re:Other applications by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      You could quite possibly add to THIS process a process for embedding a tiny little CCD-and-decoder-on-a-chip into the page. It would need to have a lens on it, but this is not outside the realm of reason. Of course, you'd probably need more processing power than they are currently laying down, but this is only a beginning...

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  9. So you can use it on drug boxes... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    ...ladies and gentlemen, the real tablet PC...

    1. Re:So you can use it on drug boxes... by khakipuce · · Score: 1
      But seriously, surely what the world wants is the PC-less(TM) office. We can then get rid of these crappy multi-function tools that do lots of jobs badly and replce them with smart paper applications where each sheet of paper is specific to an application

      Most things we do are about filling in a form (how many web forms have you created and/or filled today?). Suppose you want to post on /. You take your "Form request" form and write what you want on it, it requests the "/. post comment" form from your local printer. You write your comment on the "/. post comment" form and check the "Submit" box - your comment appears on /.

      Xerox already have reprintable paper for those who think this is wasteful. So once you have a form for a specific application you could keep wiping it (just the bits you wrote, not the layout or the underlying electonics) and re-using it.

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    2. Re:So you can use it on drug boxes... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh oh oh oh..... fax machine!!!

      Imagine a paperless fax machine. The fax just appeared on the paper - wirelessly... cooOOOool!!!

  10. Look Ma.. I get A's by vano2001 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Finally you can really get down into getting A's in the exams... Teacher thinking: "Why is that kid over there tapping on that blank paper?"

  11. Reinventing the Printed Circuit Board by Snoochie+Bootchie · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It seems like the only possible innovation here is in the conductive inks. Effectively, they using a paper substrate rather than FR4 (or other PCB material) and the conductive "ink" rather than copper to make connections. The ability to make a very thin chip and embedded it into a thin form factor is not new.

    The more interesting thing is the non-traditional markets that are being explored. They're not trying to do another smartcard rehash. (although they appear to talk about smartcard-lke devices on their web site)

    1. Re:Reinventing the Printed Circuit Board by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah... but think about the prototyping costs...

      Draw circuit diagram in M$ Paint...

      Print...

      Plug it in...

      Cool :)

  12. Whole New Way to Cheat by TrekkieGod · · Score: 2, Funny

    I can use use especially programmed paper as scratch paper on my next math exam...

    Just need to figure out a way to make the "your answer is wrong" warning a quiet one.

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  13. Cant find any more info on Cypak on the blog by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    Why did you say i can find more infomation on the cypak technology on your blog when all you do is quote the business article text? there is no more information on your page.

    has slashdot become a blog traffic generator ?, and they wonder why people don't subscribe when all we get are links to non related kids journals

  14. Processors running Windows CE... by silvaran · · Score: 2, Funny

    Where would you like to go today?
    A: Fill a prescription
    B: Test your blood
    C: The morgue

    1. Re:Processors running Windows CE... by pythorlh · · Score: 1

      Gives new meaning to the "Blue Screen of Death."

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    2. Re:Processors running Windows CE... by AndroidCat · · Score: 2, Funny

      I suppose an envelope that says "You've got mail!" would be pretty redundant? Of course, you wouldn't need a letter inside -- just swipe the envelope through the reader. Easier for the post office to read the address too.

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  15. harry potter by etucexe · · Score: 1, Funny

    anyone want a howler?

  16. where this will be really used.... by epicstruggle · · Score: 2, Interesting

    As with all cutting edge technology, this will be popularized by the porn industry. can you imagine what kinda marketing info they could get just off their magazines. like how long you really read their articles :). How much time youve spent on each page, maybe an auditory warning if your on a page for too long. :) Anyways sounds cool. hope we dont get conspiracy theorist coming out of the woodwork saying that this will automatically be put in money to track you. :)

    later,
    epicstruggle

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    1. Re:where this will be really used.... by KDan · · Score: 1

      "Our sensors have noticed that you are enjoying this page thoroughly. Your appreciation has been recorded - be certain that there will be many more pages like this one in the next issue."

      That would be a hell of a turn-off though... :-P

      Daniel

      --
      Carpe Diem
    2. Re:where this will be really used.... by Fizzl · · Score: 1

      Heh. This was the first application that came into my mind. Tracking money that is. Not the legitimate holder of _a_ money.

    3. Re:where this will be really used.... by Kadagan+AU · · Score: 1

      That would be a hell of a turn-off though...

      Unless it's a sexy woman saying "you'll see more of me".

      *evil grin*

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    4. Re:where this will be really used.... by Zog+The+Undeniable · · Score: 2, Funny

      More worringly, they could start putting chips in Kleenex to ascertain whether they're being used for their intended purpose :-O

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    5. Re:where this will be really used.... by mOdQuArK! · · Score: 1

      Just pop your money in the microwave for a few...
      (Or do some literal "money laundering" :)

    6. Re:where this will be really used.... by ziekke · · Score: 1
      Too bad part of the core function of tracking would be some sort of a system for broadcasting the presence of the bills. The range for the antenna is so low that that would be completely pointless.

      Besides, they are already tracking american bills without the use of this antenna/circuit-on-paper technology.

      So conspiracy-paranoid people don't need to worry about this technology, since they're already being tracked, its useless!

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  17. Disposables? by tigress · · Score: 4, Interesting

    An interresting spinoff of this could be the disposable computer. Like disposable cameras and things like that, an item such as a notepad (PDA) could be designed for a very short lifetime. Write your meeting-notes with a normal pen, on your notepad. After the meeting, you take your notepad to your computer, press the transmit button on the pad and discard the page(s) you've used up.

    "Paperless office" anyone? =)

    1. Re:Disposables? by ideonode · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The idea of disposable computers might seem appealing and convenient, but should the current thrust in technology really be towards disposables when there's already an environmental issue over dead tech today? Dead mobiles, obsolete computers, fridges - all these dead consumer devices cost a lot to dispose of. And you're proposing adding to the mix?

      The trendy application for this paper technology you've described is wholly unnecessary. Why bother taking notes on e-paper and uploading to your server at home? Why not think about developing tablet technology which is always connected (GPRS, 3G, WiFi) with your desktop PC at the office. Then you write in realtime to your PC with your tablet. Realtime paperless office with no redundant technology building up.

    2. Re:Disposables? by _ph1ux_ · · Score: 1

      Interesting points made here and in the other replies to your post.

      First, Disposable computers, in addition to the sad trend towards "disposable" items that really arent "disposable" (safe to get rid of) - might be to easy to use for malicious purposes. I hate to be the one to spout the paranoid Homeland Security perspective - but if you have a machine that you could use then easily put to flame, it might be a perfect tool for a black hat.

      Second, make the paper writable with a magnetic(?)dry erase pen... then you can have the paper recognize what you write, and you can see it and easily clear it as well.

      Tracking documents through a building would be a perfect application for government and businesses with sensitive material which needs to be in a portable hard caopy form.

      One thing that would be interesting is if the ePaper could have a biometric scanning device in one corner - and "Ink" that it could turn on or off.

      If you had proper access to the sheet - then the ink would display - and only while you were holding your thumb on the scanning square.

      also - if you could have it do ink like this - then you could keep hard copies of whatever around - but when you were done with it - just place it in the "printer tray" and it will be re-programmed with new data. So it would be 100% re-useable and not even need traditional recycling. It would just immediately go back into the pool of blanks.

    3. Re:Disposables? by nounderscores · · Score: 1

      One thing that would be interesting is if the ePaper could have a biometric scanning device in one corner - and "Ink" that it could turn on or off.

      If you had proper access to the sheet - then the ink would display - and only while you were holding your thumb on the scanning square.


      even better, have it programmed to display disinformation until activated by a thumb with the proper clearance!

  18. counterfeiting applications? by egburr · · Score: 2, Funny

    Can I reprogram my $1 bill to be a $20?

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  19. Polling technology? by vano2001 · · Score: 1

    Would this kind of tech make great for polling? Advertisement polling or other ways of making polls using magazines / newspapers. Now that we are at it... how about intelligent advertisement? The intellipage(tm) asks questions and responds to your needs regarding which flavour of their toothpaste you will like. Possibilites are endless.

  20. Finns and Swedes... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What's with Finns and Swedes?? They seem to be superior in every technology field. Finland and Sweden are neighbour countries if you didn't know. I visited Stockholm once and used a ferry to get to Finland.

  21. Wooah! by houseofmore · · Score: 1

    Finally I'll be able to get a fucking paper plane in the air!

  22. Imagine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    what kind of logic can they hide in toilet paper??? Scary! You do your thing and the toilet paper claims that you didn't wipe your ass well enough.

    1. Re:Imagine by Tisha_AH · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Sure the original comment was probably meant as a jest but there are a few valid reasons for TP to have sensors in it.

      Like detecting the presence of BLOOD in the stool. That's a major warning sign that something bad is happening in your colon.

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    2. Re:Imagine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      but just think of how the art of voyerism could benefit!

    3. Re:Imagine by coke_dite · · Score: 1

      Ever had a colonoscopy? Not pleasant, my friend. The whole idea of medical testing through TP is definitely more attractive than the idea of having a pipe with a camera on the end shoved up where the sun don't shine! Colo-rectal cancer could become more easily detectable, IBS could become a thing of the past, and any number of illnesses diagnosed through stool and urine samples could be more easily (and more quickly) detected, making our lives much easier and MUCH more pleasant! (again, the image of a colonoscopy - SHUDDER) Nifty idea..... doubt it'll happen in my lifetime, but nifty nonetheless :)

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  23. ad? by magwm · · Score: 0

    this article looks much like a well-targeted commercial! how many of you slashdotters will tell their bosses about this thingy?

  24. chips on pills by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "I see you're taking an overdose, can I help you take an overdose?"

    +AJ+

  25. My thought by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    I certainly hope nobody thinks this is revolutionary?
    Set your time travel machine to the 60's. The 1960s. I would have loved to be my age (30) in the 60s. EVERYTHING was already done back then...
    TFT history
    Just search for 'paper' in that article if you're one of those hyper-active now-now-now-now types.

    1. Re:My thought by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What I want to know, is who modded offtopic on this post, when it links to a story about transistors mounted on paper?
      Are you people assholes?

  26. Call me a luddite, but... by Queuetue · · Score: 2

    Isn't this pharmaceutical application stupid, when they could just include a card that you mark with a pen?

    Or, how about the doctor just asks you the next time you see him, since that's when he'll get the card anyway...

    1. Re:Call me a luddite, but... by Overt+Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Pen marks have a few problems... first of all, there's no timestamp on them, so you can't verify that the patient filled it out at the time they took the medication (see below). Secondly, there's the issue of stray marks -- was that something the patient checked off or not?

      As for just telling the doctor (or more likely, a nurse or PA) at the appointment, you have the problem of does the patient accurately remember the details from a few days (or weeks) ago, or are they just guessing. (This goes also for the patient who just fills out their paper card right before the appointment.) In a clinical trial, accurate data is very, very important and any mechanism that will increase the likelihood of collecting all of the required data with fewer chances for incorrect data is a good thing.

    2. Re:Call me a luddite, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Isn't this pharmaceutical application stupid, when they could just include a card that you mark with a pen?
      Or, how about the doctor just asks you the next time you see him, since that's when he'll get the card anyway...
      You're obviously not a doctor, a PA, an RN, nor have you ever manned the front desk of a medical practice nor performed telephone technical support for a computer hardware or software firm, or you'd know that the general population has no hope of keeping track of things like when they took their pills.

      "Mrs. Rutabega, do you remember when you took your last pill? Do you remember that I gave you a prescription? Did you fill the prescription? No? Do you even remember that you came to our office two weeks ago for exactly the same problem that you're back here complaining about now?"

      It's great that someone's developed a cheap smart dispenser (nondisposable pill boxes already exist to do this) but these won't be truly helpful until they come with giant robotic arms that can grab a patient and stuff a pill down their throat at preprogrammed intervals.

  27. Don't let AMD make paper-mounted CPUs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    they'll reach ignition temperature whenever the cpu comes under load ;-)

  28. Intelligent Origami by Omkar · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'm thinking things that help you fold as you fold. "Sink here...Not like that, idiot."

  29. Ironically, it's Windows-only! by Tsar · · Score: 2, Informative

    From the FAQ:
    "...our COM/ActiveX interface component can be used to get data from the ECP directly to Excel for example. Some VB scripting is required to do the plumbing with the specific customer application."

    So until somebody writes the requisite API, your application has to be Windows-based to read patient data from these packages. I called that ironic because their site is apparently on a Linux box.

    1. Re:Ironically, it's Windows-only! by Mark+(ph'x) · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I dont see that as particularily ironic. They are using Linux to host their site because Linux is particularily better at doing this.

      If I was using spreadsheets, processing data and making reports I would most likely be doing it in Windows.

      A COM object is excellent. You can have a macro embedded in your spreadsheet / database / word document that grabs all the data out of this.

      As far as i can see they are picking the best tools for the job.

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  30. I've crumpled up my Beowulf cluster of these by hughbar · · Score: 2, Funny

    by accident..may I have another one?

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    1. Re:I've crumpled up my Beowulf cluster of these by macrophage · · Score: 1

      See, you should have made a photocopy, er, backup first!

      I screwed up mine using it as a grocery list.

  31. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 2, Interesting

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  32. Yet another tech journalism rant... by Tsar · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Just an observation (okay, a gripe): Why is it that every time someone makes an announcement about printing electronics on paper, the press starts talking about "disposable PC's right around the corner?"

    Silicon is pretty cheap, right? But that one fact hasn't made PC's disposable. And none of these companies (that I know of) are planning to print PC's anyway--they're just talking about cheap stuff like lightweight CPU's, sensors and tracking circuits. Why all the hype, you press guys? Didn't the dot-com debacle teach you anything?

  33. Minority Report by Bohnanza · · Score: 1

    So now we can finally have those annoying singing cereal boxes just like in the movie.

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  34. If only they could help compliance by The+Tyro · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I don't know about other applications, but I'd like to see something like this to help patient compliance.

    over 50% of patients are non-complaint with their drug regime and/or instructions. I am not sure if some pill-pak reminding the patient would help or not.

    I provide printed medication instructions, verbal instructions, and instructions on the bottle... and people STILL don't take their medications like they are supposed to. This leads me to do things like treat Strep throat with single-dose Intramuscular Penicillin injections... one dose, done... takes non-compliance right out of the picture.

    No matter how many times I tell people to take all their medication... they take it 'till they start feeling better, then stick the rest in the medicine cabinet. The next time they get a "sore throat," they promptly bust out the old prescription and start taking pills. I find this out when they show up a few days later, wanting to know why their sore throat isn't clearing up like last time (answer: because it's viral). Of course, we'll also never know if it's viral or not, because the antibiotics they are taking screw up any throat culture I might do.

    They either need to make a pill-pak that self-destructs after a period of time, or one that repeatedly screeches "I'm expired! Throw me away now!" in a high, fingernails-on-the-chalkboard voice.

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    1. Re:If only they could help compliance by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

      And an alarm reminder when they haven't taken their medication.

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    2. Re:If only they could help compliance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That has to be one of the most patronising, self righteous rants I've seen in a long time. It must be from a Doctor.

      Probably part of the reason I stopped going to see doctors... I always got the feeling I'd gone to the helpdesk and they'd said 'We don't know what's wrong.. hit reboot a few times... If the problem hasn't gone away by next monday, come back and we'll think of something else'.

      People don't always take the medication because they don't always believe you're right. Event if they believe you're right, they don't trust the drug companies anyhow... Let's face it... there's been bad drugs on the market before... Sure.. you spent years and years training to be a doctor.. and I spent years and years training in my profession... That doesn't mean that you're right, I'm stupid, or that I need to be patronised and talked to like I'm a four year old.

      'they promptly bust out the old prescription and start taking pills. I find this out when they show up a few days later'...

      Yeah.. well of course they do... it's not like you're going to book time off work and spend hours queuing to see a self-righteous drug dealer unless they're practically dying...

      This will probably get modded down to nothing, since it's wildly off topic and from a ranting anonymous coward, but as long The Tyro reads it, that's all I care about.

    3. Re:If only they could help compliance by AndroidCat · · Score: 1
      He's talking about antibiotics, and he's right. If you stop taking them before all the bugs are dead, the ones that survive will be more resistant to that antibiotic. Eventually you'll get a strain that can't be stopped by that antibiotic. That's why there are now "killer" strains of common bacteria infections. (And why doctors now have to use antibiotics that aren't as safe penicillin.)

      People who don't follow the directions with antibiotics are doing their tiny part towards breeding the next plague. (And there's the wholesale dosing of livestock with antibiotics, but don't get me started!)

      You aren't ones of those people who demand antibiotics to treat their colds, are you? (Viral, won't help.)

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    4. Re:If only they could help compliance by The+Tyro · · Score: 1

      "It must be from a Doctor"

      Figured that out all by yourself, did you?

      Well mister trolling anonymous coward... allow me to retort.

      Patronising and self-righteous? Please... If you really think I'm a self-righteous drug dealer, then why do you keep showing up in my office? If you don't think I'm going to be able to help you, and don't trust my treatments, then why are you wasting your time and mine? There are plenty of people out there who want to get better, and are willing to give me the benefit of the doubt for my decade+ of training. Yes, you spent years and years training for what you do... that's why I'll take your advice on how to configure a kernel, and why YOU should take MY advice when it comes to medications. Where I have enough insight to know when I don't know, you are apparently an expert on everything.

      If you are so cynical and paranoid that you aren't even willing to follow your medication instructions because you think I might be poisoning you (do you think we just make up dosages and treatment intervals?), then trot on down to the herb-and-crystal store and try your luck.

      If this seems patronising, and you don't want to be treated like a 4yo, then start behaving like an adult. Don't waste your time going to the doctor if you think he's a quack... if you've got something better, have at it. Don't waste your doctor's time if you aren't going to listen, and don't have a modicum of trust for what he's going to tell you. I seriously doubt your doctor came over to your flat and dragged you to his office.

      YOU sought HIM out, did you not?

      Good grief... blaming your doctor for your own ignorant non-compliance. That's called projection... and it means you have the problem, not your doctor.

      Troll.

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    5. Re:If only they could help compliance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're missing the point. It wasn't what he said, it was how he said it. With an attitude like his it's no wonder his patients only go to see him when it's absolutely necessary.

    6. Re:If only they could help compliance by AndroidCat · · Score: 1
      This is Slashdot, are you his patient? No? Next!

      (Someone on Slashdot has an attitude. Film at 11! :^)

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    7. Re:If only they could help compliance by The+Tyro · · Score: 1

      "an attitude like his"

      Excuse me? Did I insult anyone? Did I call anyone stupid? I simply expressed my frustration at one of medicine's biggest problems, that of noncompliance with treatment.

      In fact, I believe it was you who characterized doctors as "self-righteous drug dealers"...

      Who has the attitude here?

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  35. Open source CPU? by dlr03 · · Score: 1
    I wonder when we'll be able to print our own CPU's at home, using a bubble-ink printer with special ink...

    And if we can print it, there must be some way to see/edit the underlying circuitry, hence open source printable CPU's could be around the corner...

    What is better that recompiling your kernel? Running it on your own variation of the Intel architecture.

  36. This has been around for years ... by adzoox · · Score: 1
    Hasn't anyone ever bought one of those cell phone antennas that come on scotch tape. "It's like having a six foot antenna coming out of your cell phone!" I say you tape a bunch of these to an 8.5 x 11 piece of paper and then tape that to the back of laptop, shouldn't that give you a 250ft Wifi antenna?

    Of course these "tape antennas" are $19.95 TV hoaxes. I'm sure this will happen one day, but I doubt if the company has anything behind their theoretical trial at this point.

    Also modern chip lithography isn't much different from printing.

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    1. Re:This has been around for years ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I didn't buy one, but was given one when I bought a new battery for my mobile phone. I just smiled at the guy, let him put it on and then pondered the science of it. It didn't take long.


      I came to the conclusion it was invented by the guy who invented tinfoil hats.

  37. What sort of Battery ? by hopbine · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It seems like a great idea, and some /. posters have already got some applications for it in mind, but what powers this, is the battery printed as well? If it gets really inexpensive, will there be a disposal problem.

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    1. Re:What sort of Battery ? by e-gold · · Score: 1

      Maybe they print a tiny solar cell, too?
      JMR

      Speaking ONLY for me!!!

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    2. Re:What sort of Battery ? by _ph1ux_ · · Score: 1

      Just carry around some jars of silt and water from Boston harbor.

  38. Serious medications already have this (in a way) by adzoox · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Serious medications or trial medications from most resources like Pfizer have been coming in little 30 day pill boxes for about a year that do "alarm" when needed. and DO document whether the little "box containing the pill" was opened within 30 minutes of the alarm. My grandmother has such a dosage meter/alarm for her parkinson's medication. It looks like a 3D calendar and she has to go exchange it for the "next month" every month - the pills are already placed in the proper compartments. (Some days have different dosage and some days have different medication)

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  39. Had to be said.... by Graphyx · · Score: 1

    Imagine a Beowulk cluster of these things.. It would trulyly be a Von Nueman machine. If it needed to speed up its processor it could just issue print commands to the printer... If it had itself in a pile on the floor and had contacts ready it could add on to itself automattically. (Bring back the old paper reels with the perforated sides... Ideal for such a thing.)

  40. Yeah, these idiots make me angry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Correct me if I'm wrong but by not taking the entire regime you risk not killing the strongest bugs in your system. This means you are effectively breeding stronger bugs and improving their resistance to antibiotics. On the long term this bodes badly for the effectiveness of antibiotics. Another case of individual ignorance building up into a public expense.

  41. An HB2 now equals overclocking power! by Nanoda · · Score: 1

    Sounds great... until your doodle in the corner accidentally overclocks your daily minder, schedules you for lunch with 65536 different people at the same time and bursts into flames.

  42. Power! by Headius · · Score: 1

    Now they just have to figure out how to shrink a power source down small enough to match. With this technology, the size of a battery would be a limiting factor in thickness. Not only that, but a battery contains toxic chemicals that would be paired side by side with one of the most thrown away materials of our day: paper. This might also throw a wrench into recycling..not only because of the battery but because of the material(s) used for the processor and electronics.

    Still pretty cool thought, but perhaps a warning "do not burn this computerized paper in your fireplace" would be in order so people aren't getting battery bits shot into their eyes.

  43. So much for the paperless office... by Denver_80203 · · Score: 1

    Remember, aluminum cans in this bin, CPUs and newspapers in this one...

  44. Ubiquitous sensors. by CHUD-Wretch · · Score: 1

    Circuits/Sensors/Antennae on PAPER
    +
    Missing Children "Have you seen me" postcards
    =
    Total Information Awareness

    or...
    In Bush's America, your mail reads YOU!

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  45. Recyclable PC by Kadagan+AU · · Score: 2, Insightful

    But the really cool thing about this is that if it's printed on normal paper, you can most likely recycle it. This will be a lot better than current PCs that are very difficult adn costly to recycle.

    ~Jon~

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  46. electronic carbon paper by nounderscores · · Score: 3, Interesting

    You raise good points. I sincerely hope that the idea of electronic parking tickets that they floated on the website is replaced in most cities by an entirely software solution. (Email you your parking fines. no more paper tickes on your windscreen which the local hoods can steal for pranks)

    On the other hand, what if you use pressure sensative paper as the worlds's most portable scanner? Write your meeting notes on normal paper, with the smart scanner paper underneath like that old fashioned pressure activated carbon paper that people sometimes use to duplicate reciepts.

    the pressure sensative paper stays blank. At the end of the meeting, file your handwritten notes and plug in your pressure sensative mat to your laptop/desktop/whatever. the dozens of pages that you stored in it are copied across, and the handwriting recognition goes through in a few minutes. presto!

    (if you're really adventureous, you could get the pad to have a built in wifi antenna. then you'd never have to leave the meeting. when you run out of paper, just use an inkless stylus on the pad directly, and hope you remember where you've written... or maybe make the top layer smart colour change paper.)

    Might be handy for those business people who don't want heavy laptop bags or bulge inducing pdas ruining the line of a good suit. (on the other hand, most people like that who I know just get their PAs to carry all their junk for them. oh well. maybe the new tech might still sell on early adopter chic.)

  47. It's always been said... by Lethyos · · Score: 1

    That I ideas are often better on paper than on silicon.

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  48. Re:Serious medications already have this (in a way by The+Tyro · · Score: 1

    Those are actually a real godsend to senior citizens, just like those "a box for every day of the week" pill boxes. They are mostly for the people who are non-compliant through sheer forgetfulness (which includes a lot of us as we age...).

    Even so, I wish they could do something about the "hassle factor." People simply don't take their meds because it's inconvenient, or too much hassle.

    A good example is Acyclovir for herpes... you have to take it five times a day. People don't take it because it is inconvenient, and I tend not to prescribe it for this very reason. If I have my choice, I make it as easy as possible for the patient; given the option, I opt for something like Famcyclovir (can be given three times a day, compared to five).

    You are correct; compliance can be improved somewhat with the type of product you mention. but there is still that hassle factor, and the fact that unused medication accumulates in people's medicine cabinets, waiting to be used inappropriately. I still would like to see the self-destruct option, it might save someone's little nephew when he goes looking in the medicine cabinet for some tic-tacs. That happened to me as a very young child... I sucked down a whole bottle of thorazine. I was lucky enough to survive. Some kids aren't so lucky...

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  49. Two Observations by agentkhaki · · Score: 1

    First of all, what are the implications of a packet/bottle/box of pills spurting out questions whenever you pick them up? I mean, how the hell are you going to keep paranoid skitzophrenics on their medication?

    "My meds, man... They're talkin' to me. No, really... They're talking to me man."

    I suppose the potential is the same for stoners, but that's another bag of beans.

    Secondly, weren't we supposed to see paper printed cell phones in every vending machine already? I remember a few years back some woman had figured this application through, and the media was running around with their typical un-educated stories: "Soon, you'll be able to print a cell phone from your own printer right at home."

    Still, this is existing technology, and has been jumped upon before, with no results I've ever seen.

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  50. oh the possibilities.... by Kadagan+AU · · Score: 2, Funny

    You pull out a note pad and begin to write...

    Dear Sally,

    And your paper clip stands up and says "It looks like you're writing a letter, would you like help?".

    You throw the paper clip in the trash, but before you can get rid of it, it winks at you. Scared yet?

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    1. Re:oh the possibilities.... by coke_dite · · Score: 1
      Holy shit that's hilarious :) That goddamn paperclip is a recurring character in my worst nightmares - I've given it a PeeWee Herman type voice and everything :)

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  51. So what about... by inteller · · Score: 1

    ...if you pop too many pills in a certain time frame...does it have a built in cell phone to report you to a substance abuse center?

  52. Clustering by Seahawk · · Score: 1

    Does this meen that we will be able to order a A4 sheet of cluster any time soon?

  53. Money? by panxerox · · Score: 0

    First it was credit cards that tracked how you spent your money now it could (will?) even be paper money... fits in nicely with the total information awareness program. Drivers license / national id card with gps?

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  54. Are you pondering what I'm pondering? by AndroidCat · · Score: 2, Funny

    Paper airplanes with guidance systems!

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  55. Sure thing wise guy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    ...Whatcha gonna do with the added heat from overclocking it? put a heat sink on it? what if its too much heat? You got yourself a great little match now don't cha? I'd love to see the converation you'll have with your insurace agent after the house burns down:

    Agent: "What happened here?"
    You: "Well I was overclocking my Mad Fold-in.."

    or better yet

    Agent: "What happened here?"
    You: "Well I was overclocking my Playboy centerfold..."
    Agent: "Overclocking eh?"

  56. Making old or custom hardware... by shimmin · · Score: 1

    Every time I see an article about these conductive ink on paper circuitries, I get to wondering how feasible it would be to get a pack of these inks for an inkjet printer and print your own simple integrated circuits. How large a piece of paper would you need to print an 8086 clone (and would it burst into flame from the heat released)? If hardware becomes trusted against its user, could we print a useful (if slow) processor using this technology?

    1. Re:Making old or custom hardware... by kcelery · · Score: 1
      You may find designing a useful circuit an interesting project. But then you can also design a circuit that can improve itself. Or even better approach is
      1). expressing your circuit in a form of a strand of genes.
      2) print the circuit on paper and test against an objective function.
      3) allow these paper circuits to reproduce by exchanging genes information.

      It is basically a genetic algorithm running on paper circuits. The fun part is to watch these paper circuit multiply and grow ( in the sense of size and complexity ).

      But as you can see mounting paper circuit A on paper circuit B in exchange of genetical information requires some kind of manuvering.

      I assume recreating a 8086 on paper circuit is not as rewarding as creating circuits in the form of neural network.

    2. Re:Making old or custom hardware... by ShaunDon · · Score: 1

      Shit dude, I like where you're going with this! Bring on the hardware piracy! Download board configurations from Kazaa, output 'em to the Epson... alright, this is entirely impractical, but Christ, it's been my dream for fuckin' five years now.

      ShaunDon

  57. Only a month late by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This article was in PC Magazine about a month ago. Can't get a much larger circulation than that. Is this what /. has come to? News posted one month after the mainstream media has it?

    1. Re:Only a month late by SillySlashdotName · · Score: 1

      And also on slashdot - a QUICK search did not find it, but I remember reading it here - something about Bill Gates stoping at their booth at whatever computer show was going on at the time (COMDEX??)...

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  58. the idea is not far off by Cnik70 · · Score: 1

    I used to work a summer job at a screenprinting shop where we printed the circuit boards for remote controllers and other such things. the trick is finding something that will draw small lines with conductive ink.

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  59. Already in use in Porto, Portugal!! by joaoncastro · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Here in Porto we already are using paper tickets with a memory chip for ticketing in the public transport.

    These chips are dormant most of the time and wake up when they are near the equipment that reads the data. The circuit is made with a special silver ink.
    Each ticket costs around 50 cents for 176 bits of data.

    For more info check out www.ask.fr (silver ink)and www.rafsec.com (thin copper)

    cheers!

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  61. Imagine... by AndroidCat · · Score: 2, Funny

    A Beowulf cluster of these! Definitely a novel approach, and you could rack-mount them on your bookshelf.

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    1. Re:Imagine... by insanecarbonbasedlif · · Score: 1

      Well that tears it... anymore puns like that are just going to burn me up. To take a page out of your book,we need to wrap this up and move on.

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    2. Re:Imagine... by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

      You have to admit that it would be a good way to deal with a large volume of data. :^)

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    3. Re:Imagine... by insanecarbonbasedlif · · Score: 1

      But if you needed to get to any one item in particular, you could be in a bind. And you better make sure no bugs get in your code...

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  62. Imagine! by shplorb · · Score: 1

    Sure, like all technologies it can have as many bad applications as good ones.

    When I read that they had antennas and buttons, etc. I suddenly thought of electronic ink/OLED-type touch screens, perhaps to be used as wireless x-terms or such? I figure that perhaps the power supply problem could be solved by powering through induction(is that the term?) - like how my electric toothbrush charges (no plugs or wires - just sit it on the base) - or perhaps the battery could be contained in a clipboard? Hell, you could probably fit it all into a cardboard sheet!

    This and the printable-screen technologies are seriously cool and exciting things. Perhaps the potential to use such technology to 'invade' privacy isn't a bad thing? Age of transparency anyone?

    Bleh, just image the possibilities!

  63. oooooo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I cam imagine smart, reusable, "paper" with an embedded chip that can receive Wi-Fi - and the printer is gone! The computer transmits directly to the paper!

  64. Can we print them too? by phorm · · Score: 1

    What qualified this technique as "cheap, and is it available to the home consumer?" I'm guessing that they probably don't have a kit for my home inkjet that would allow me to print mini-computers.

    Still, if one could get a printer for say,
    Note: With the current trend, I wouldn't be surprised if "CPU printers" cost $100, but the paper is $150/ream and the equivilent of ink somewhere in that range as well...

    1. Re:Can we print them too? by _ph1ux_ · · Score: 1

      Couple this with the Personal Organ Printing Technology and soon you can print your own Cyborg Army!!

  65. Wait a minute... by CrasHUV · · Score: 1

    I thought one of the cool things about technology was moving towards a paperless medium.

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  66. Multiprocessing made easy! by Chocolate+Teapot · · Score: 1, Redundant

    Just photocopy your CPU and before you know it you have a Beowu...good grief! Is that the time already? Must dash!

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  67. Embedded in paper money? by generic · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This could be used to thwart counterfeiting I would think. If each legal note came with some sort of hash that could be verified through a checksum of some sort.

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  68. Security by freeze128 · · Score: 1

    I just imagine what the security personnel at the airport would think when they discover you are carrying an electronic drug delivery system. I have just been thinking about things like this because I have been traveling a lot lately (not basketball!).

  69. Oh crap... by Bvardi · · Score: 2, Funny

    Does this mean that the paper my EULA is written on will have it's own EULA? (Which will have its' own EULA... so on and so on... ok I have to lay down now, my brain hurts.)

  70. MICR - Magnetic Toner (for printing checks) by anagama · · Score: 1

    You can buy magnetic toner cartridges for laser printers - this is the same toner used to print account numbers on checks (MICR = magnetic ink character recognition). Does anyone know if this type of magnetic ink would work for circuits? If it would, an open source CPU could be as available as any other picture.

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  71. Conductive ink problems... by sean.peters · · Score: 1

    Even regular inks can be pretty environmentally hostile when disposed of in landfills, etc... to the point where you have to be careful about what kind of paper you put in your compost pile. Load inks up with enough metal for them to be conductive and it seems like they could turn out REALLY toxic.

    Sean

  72. printing microchips by roman_mir · · Score: 1

    So how about printing microchips on paper on your office printer:

    Hired another programmer? See this stack of paper? It will become your desktop - this sheet your CPU and this one is your RAM chip. If you want a bigger monitor grab that tabloid sheet of paper (11x17) or better yet, stack 4 of them together.

    All you need is a keyboard and a mouse - we probably can print a keyboard and real men don't use mice anyway!

  73. a Talking Cigarette pack by Zapdos · · Score: 1

    That gives you the warning every time you pull a cigarette from it.

  74. Saw this one coming by poot_rootbeer · · Score: 1


    Just another way for Lexmark to sell you a printer for next to nothing, then screw you on supplies...

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  76. OK, somebody has to say it by errxn · · Score: 2, Funny

    This idea looks great on paper....

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  77. Who needs Psychiatrists?!! by rajpaul · · Score: 1

    We won't need psychiatrists anymore. You just get a prescription for you anti-depressants and the pill packaging will come with a copy of the doctor program from emacs!

  78. Sweet! by JoshWurzel · · Score: 1

    Now when I flame that my mac wipes its ass with intel chips, I won't be kidding!

    God I love technology.

  79. OH my GOD!!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So how long before "smart-books" that catalog your reading habits are mandated in libraries?

    1. Re:OH my GOD!!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      TRA-mam-po-LINE! Tramampoline!!@!

  80. whole new meaning to printing src code by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does it mean that if we print our source code, we will be able to run the program inside the paper ;-)

  81. Last Post! by alpg · · Score: 0

    Thus spake the master programmer:
    "Let the programmers be many and the managers few -- then all will
    be productive."
    -- Geoffrey James, "The Tao of Programming"

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