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The RIAA and MPAA Target Day-Job Downloaders

BrianUofR points to this USA Today article, which says "the Recording Industry Association of America and the Motion Picture Association of America are sending a six-page brochure this week to Fortune 1000 corporations with suggested policies -- including a sample memo to workers warning them against using company computers to download songs and movies."

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  1. One word... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative
    ...Freenet.

    It is finally starting to work well enough to be useful. It still needs people to create mp3-specific freesites to allow people to find mp3s easily, but this could be the motivation.

  2. Quick! by $$$$$exyGal · · Score: 5, Funny
    Somebody post the 6-page brochure to Kazaa so I can see it.

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    1. Re:Quick! by PovRayMan · · Score: 4, Funny

      Searching for it, you better read the description or else you might end up getting a guide about man-dolphin relations...

      Damn you Kazaa polluters!

    2. Re:Quick! by grub · · Score: 3, Funny


      who doesn't know that a dolphin's ejaculate comes out with enough force to rip a hole in your colon.

      Oh, I know that all too well..

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  3. do you wanna bet... by TheHawke · · Score: 3, Interesting

    That some of the know-nothing managers will forward these boilerplate memos onto their charges without any changes??

    ALSO, how many managers will take their threats for real?

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    1. Re:do you wanna bet... by TopShelf · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Remember, this went out to Fortune 1000 companies, presumably to their legal departments, who would then consider what to do with it in-house.

      A manager with any common sense, however, might well note this article with their direct reports - giving them a heads-up (if they already didn't know) that P2P at work is a bad idea...

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    2. Re:do you wanna bet... by The+Man · · Score: 4, Insightful
      I'm a network admin, not a manager, and I'm happy to have something like this to give my boss to hand out. I'm neither for nor against the "free everything" mentality - I consider each person who produces something to have the right to distribute it under whatever terms he or she sees fit. Personally I distribute my work freely, and encourage others to do the same; not everyone chooses to do so. But regardless of your beliefs about the RIAA (evil) or the MPAA (evil) or whether you should be permitted to steal their property (you shouldn't), using your employer's property for personal purposes is always wrong. Viewing free porn is not illegal, but unless that is your job, doing so with your company's systems and networks almost certainly goes against both professional ethics and your employment agreement or contract. Therefore you should not do that. The same argument goes for downloading or viewing or listening to non-work-related material - if you're using company property to do it, you are in the wrong. Whether the material is legal or illegal, copyrighted or public domain, offensive, harmless, or valuable is irrelevant. Do it at home, not at work.

      So I'm happy to have someone giving ammunition to help put these slackers out of business. The company doesn't need them, and they waste the resources for which I am responsible. Whether they are canned because the CEO worries over his company's legitimate potential liability to the evil conglomerates or because these people are being paid to work and are goofing off instead, means nothing to me. They are abusing company property for personal gain and should be fired. A warning letter like this is a valuable policy tool. That I personally do not care for the conglomerates' heavy-handed tactics does nothing to lessen the validity of their fundamental argument, and does nothing to diminish the value of a document issued by Legal telling slackers to knock off the network abuse.

      Your use of Kazaa to steal from those who purchased the musicians is for any reasonable person equal to Microsoft including linux/sched.c in the next version of Windows or to that scruffy-looking man outside stealing my car. All three hypothetical offenders are taking from others without permission. A pity they don't hang cattle rustlers any longer.

    3. Re:do you wanna bet... by Peterus7 · · Score: 4, Insightful
      And the RIAA is still up to it's same old empty threats and unjust lawsuits.

      What I don't get is how the RIAA plans to enforce this... Unless they for a RIAA gestapo, or something like it. Or put spyware on corporations, which would get them in even more trouble. So there's really nothing they can do about it. Except spew the same old BS they've been spewing, and of course that type of stuff sells on slashdot, lol...

    4. Re:do you wanna bet... by richieb · · Score: 2, Troll
      Your use of Kazaa to steal from those who purchased the musicians is for any reasonable person equal to Microsoft including linux/sched.c in the next version of Windows or to that scruffy-looking man outside stealing my car. All three hypothetical offenders are taking from others without permission. A pity they don't hang cattle rustlers any longer.

      While I agree with you on using company network for downloading music, I think this last paragraph is misguided.

      The "crime" we are talking about is called "Copyright Violation". It's not stealing. When I make a copy of something I don't deprive anyone of anything. Would you stop the guy outside from taking a picture of your car?

      Depriving someone from potential profit is not in the same ballpark as stealing a material object.

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    5. Re:do you wanna bet... by Nugget · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Would you stop the guy outside from taking a picture of your car?

      Would you try to stop Microsoft from using GPL'd code in a closed-source product? After all, if someone uses GPL'd code in a closed-source product it's just a copy.

    6. Re:do you wanna bet... by Simonetta · · Score: 4, Funny

      Here's what this really means:
      1> People who work in Fortune 1000 are usually bored stiffless by institutional dreariness of the large company. Or they have become completely transformed by Dilbert syndrome into robots on the outside and boiling-with-rage just-destroy-it-see-if-I-care attitudes on the inside. Having a 1000-to-1 pay ratio between the top executives and the average Fortune 1000 worker ensures that there is a lot of this kind of feeling. Thousands of employees turn to P2P in the workplace just to get through the meaninglessness of the day. As long as the work continues to get done, it's not really a big deal.
      2> Management gets a blanket threatening letter from the RIAA-MPAA. They immediately enact a policy saying that there will 'zero-tolerance' of any P2P or non-work-related computer or internet use by employees. The people who use P2P KNOW that their work is not affected by their listening and downloading and simply ignore this edict. Since everything is illegal in America now it doesn't seem to make any difference anyway, just as much work continues to get done as before.
      3> The system administrator reviews the download records of all the employees and finds the people who continue to use P2P.
      4> * The system administrator goes to each of these people (possible hundreds) and says that unless they give him $100-$200 a month, their names will be turned over to management for termination.
      5> The system administrator gets tens of thousands of dollars a month from shaking down the employees due to management's stupid 'zero-tolerance' policy of something that hundreds of people are doing in the company.
      6> The system administrator has an unfortunate accident. Someone deliberately drove their car over him in the company parking lot. Nobody saw anything. Word starts to circulate in and out of the company that there was a very profitable organized shakedown going on. Management refuses to tell the police anything to avoid scandal.
      7> The word going around reachs the local Mafia crew. They 'persuade' management to install one of their people as the new system administrator. The shakedown continues... the Mafia gets the money...the employees get to download P2P...and nobody cares about what happens to the company.

    7. Re:do you wanna bet... by jellybear · · Score: 3, Insightful

      There would be no problem in Microsoft taking GPL code and putting it in their software. The problem would be with Microsoft taking GPL code, putting it in their software, and then suing others for copyright infringement if THEY copy Microsoft's software containing the GPL code.

      The point of GPL is to say, yes, you can copy my code, and then others will copy yours as well.

  4. at work? by astrashe · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I wouldn't want people I was managing screwing around with p2p software at work.

    For managers, this is going to be a no-brainer.

    1. Re:at work? by NetJunkie · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Please explain hos this means treating employees like kids? There is no reason for an employee to be using a P2P app at work. I don't care if you own the CD you're downloading, rip your own at home and bring it in.

      P2P apps should be banned just for the security problems alone...not even considering legal liability of the company.

      Grow up. Get a real job.

    2. Re:at work? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      There's something to be said for moral. Most techies intermix their day between doing solid 100% and doing solid 100% play and doing a mix of both for part of the day. It's only reasonable that we bring some of our play to work since most of us TAKE OUR WORK HOME.

      Fortunately, my employer has me work from my house a couple thousand miles away and I use my own machines and bandwidth in my boxers in my den - so what I do *really* doesn't matter to anyone.

    3. Re:at work? by bryanthompson · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The bottom line is a lot of employees need to be treated like school-children. Not everyone's a happy little drone sitting there working away all 8 hours a day. they'll sit on kazaa all day downloading movies or listening to movies if you let them.
      the bottom line is that there's no reason for kazaa being on a network/business system in the first place. it sucks resources and is a security risk. I know, a good network has virus scanners and whatnot, but the bottom line is that if a program can be used to get viruses, it will. We use Eudora and still get viruses all the time.

    4. Re:at work? by NetJunkie · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The problem is legal liability. If I know my employees download this stuff and don't do anything then the company can be liable. I'm not going to get in trouble and possibly fired so people I manage can warez Britney Spears.

    5. Re:at work? by Anonvmous+Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "Yeah, managers who think that their employees should be treated like school-children."

      Who says it's about treating coworkers like 'school-children'?

      I'm a sysadmin for a small company. I used Kazaa at home quite a bit. I'm against the RIAA's stance on P2P. Despite all that, I don't want it used at work, and I will (and have) told people to remove it. Not because I'm an asshole or because I wanted to use my 'power'. I did it to make sure that my company doesn't invent mindless policies as a result of problems that arise from it. If the net connection gets bogged down and it's traced back to P2P usage, then my company will respond with a strict internet policy. That would suck because my company has a "It's only a problem when it's actually a problem" stance on things like that.

      The dude you just got shitty with is right. Don't put businensses into a position where they WILL have to create policy. Especially when it is completely unnecessary.

    6. Re:at work? by supabeast! · · Score: 4, Funny

      " I wouldn't want people I was managing screwing around with p2p software at work."

      I totally agree. I get SO pissed when my EFnet chats get lagged because the office warez monkeys are maxing out the T1 just to get mp3s and isos! People need to get cable!

  5. In the UK by jaavaaguru · · Score: 3, Interesting

    In the UK, it's not unusual for people to have Internet connections at home that are just as fast as those at work. I have 512mbps broadband at home and am considering upgrading to 1mbps, which will be 4 times faster than I have at work.

    If I wanted to download a lot of music, I'd SSH to a machine at home and do it there where it's faster. I guess it's different in the US though where lots of companies have T3 connections.

    I'd also have though that a lot of large organisations (e.g. Fortune 1000 companies) would already have "downloading music/video" policies in place, and the smaller companies would be the ones with people doing things like this.

    Anyway, if you need to spend time doing stuff like that, you're job must not be interesting enough - you employer should tackle that problem first!

  6. Good For Them by Pave+Low · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What the fuck does this have to do with my rights online?? My "rights" in the workplace are limited all the time at work.

    My company has blocked access to p2p applications, all sorts of website, and limit my access to my PC. Should I be crying about my rights being violated?

    Where is it part of my rights that I can illegaly download music at my desk, thereby wasting bandwidth and company time?

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    1. Re:Good For Them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      no shiznit

      you can't do a lot of things at work. you can't wear what you like, you can't practice your religion in public (unless it involves praying to a certain deity, then you're patriotic), you can't tell a pretty co-worker that you think she's pretty, you can't set your own hours, and you can't use the computer for personal use (though somehow they don't mind the phone used for personal stuff).

      I'm self-employed. That means I can wake up at 10, I can work in my undies with my cock hanging out, jerking off to porn, and I can download Britney till my MP3 player deletes itself in protest.

      Don't people read their employer agreements?? You're a PIECE OF A MACHINE, and if you don't function correctly you will be adjusted!

  7. This isn't that bad... by I'm+a+racist. · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Honestly, compared to the usual shit these two organizations pull, sending out recommended procedures is really not so bad. Of course, (not having read the memo) I'll assume they made some "threats" against those companies that don't implement said procedures (as per their 'usual shit').

    If they kept themselves confined to asking companies to police themselves, and "enlightening" the public to the plight of their failing business model, I wouldn't really hate them. The problem is that they insist on buying laws and bullying other companies into proping up their fading legacy.

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    1. Re:This isn't that bad... by Forgotten · · Score: 4, Interesting

      But the question remains, what the hell business does the RIAA or MPAA have telling me how I should administer *my* business. This isn't for your own good in the sense that it'll improve productivity (in fact, being able to listen to music at work and freely use the net often raises productivity). That's only a question of having good employees with interesting work to do anyway.

      This is simply a veiled legal threat. It's "do this or we'll eventually get around to suing your ass off". Never mind that it's largely an empty threat - the intent is to invade another business and, through legal chill, affect the way they *do* business. And that's simply unacceptable.

  8. More terror tactics by www.sorehands.com · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Companies will take action and institute policies against downloading copywritten materials. This will be their defense against the company being liable for the downloading.

    The RIAA/MPAA is doing this to aim at deep pockets that can order lots of people to do, or in this case not do, specific acts.

    1. Re:More terror tactics by El+Pollo+Loco · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What I don't understand is the whole innocent until proven guilty thing. Just because they have a log saying an IP from a company was downloading illegalsong.mp3 doesn't mean that the person doesn't actually own that on cd. Why are they guilty until proven innocent. I see how an individual couldn't fight them, or a small business because of the legal costs involved, but a fortune 1000 company should be able to. At least, I'd hope they could fight them, and I'm sure they'd be able to recover legal fees in court.

    2. Re:More terror tactics by dmaxwell · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The problem is that the mere act of viewing a webpage involves "downloading copyrighted materials". The browser cache even retains copies of some of it for awhile.

      Such a policy taken literally means that the organization in question will have to pull their net connection entirely.

      A better policy would forbidding downloading of copyrighted material without permission. Normal websites give implicit permission to do the downloading necessary to view them. This also has the advantage of forbidding illegal mp3 downloads while still permitted downloads of legal mp3s and software.

  9. What I want to know is... by Visaris · · Score: 3, Interesting

    How much will it cost the RIAA and MPAA to send out all these letters? How much money will they save/make by stopping the "theft"?

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    1. Re:What I want to know is... by Alien+Being · · Score: 2, Funny

      "How much will it cost the RIAA and MPAA to send out all these letters?"

      If only there were some type of decentralized distribution system... oh wait.

  10. Here are some of the enclosed brochures by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Dear fellow workers (and soon to be ex-workers).

    We the managment of [INCLUDE COMPANY NAME], have felt it necessary to assert our position in regard to file sharing as dicated by the RIAA and MPAA of America.

    You, the much loved workers of [INCLUDE COMPANY NAME], are from this day forth given the notice, that any contraband (aka shared files) ending with the following (but not limited to) extensions are hereby seen as illegal.

    Extensions : .avi and .mp3

    If for any reason any file ending with these extensions were found on your desktop or backup media, we would be forced to report you to the good companies listed above and further report you to our good government. You will be reported as terrorist file sharers who are affecting our great nations economy by sharing the files ending in the said extensions.

    The lawyers representing [INCLUDE COMPANY NAME], RIAA and MPAA could at no point be sued or counter sued for any loss. You withhold the right to class action lawsuite, trial by jury and any sort of criminal charges against the companies that own the said file extensions.

    Any tools that you use to create, display or duplicate the said file extensions are from this day forth labeled as tools of terrorists.

    Thank you.
    [INCLUDE NAME OF COMPANY CEO].

  11. Call the BSA by girth · · Score: 5, Funny

    Someone should make sure all the copies of M$ Word the RIAA and MPAA use to create these memos are licensed and accounted for.

  12. My company already did this to us.. by stephenisu · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The admin at my work was way ahead on this one.. not only did he try to scare us by saying it was illegal.. but he used a script to email EACH employee a list of mp3 and ogg files on our comps.. no way did i think he would catch my ogg files.. damn he's good. Thats one way to stop this stuff at work.

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    1. Re:My company already did this to us.. by tzanger · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Wow, I'd fire him immediately if I were his boss. He just opened up the company to massive litigation. It'd be akin to the phone company saying "we're going to monitor phone traffic and don't want common carrier status anymore". Moronic.

      This is in no way anything like the telco doing that. I think that is an excellent way to curb the behaviour. If you want the music at work, bring in your CDs or even your own computer (geez, a headless P2-233 with 64M of memory would be more than enough) and leave it off the fucking corporate systems. It's not opening up anything to litigation, as the computers are already property of the companies, and can be used for whatever legal purpose the company wants.

      Stop what stuff? Creating a pleasant environment to do your job? There is nothing illegal about having music on your computer at home or at work.

      Agreed on the pleasant environment but there is nothing in my employee handbook granting me the ability to use the company systems for anything non-company related, including playing music whose legality is in question. It's not up to the company to prove that you own the CDs, and in fact I bet that given the choice between policing that or outright forbidding mp3s, they will chose the latter every time.

    2. Re:My company already did this to us.. by jim3e8 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Do they forbid copied audio CD-Rs as well? How can they tell? What happens if your media player caches data on disk? In memory? Better disable access to the CD-ROM drive completely, remove the USB ports, and cut off the network, so that illegal material can't possibly get anywhere near a company computer. Anything else risks massive litigation.

  13. Well that sucks big, fat, hairy monkey balls by kfg · · Score: 4, Funny

    I was just about to take a temp job with a Fortune 1000 company just so I could sit around all day using the company computers to download movies.

    NOW they'll probably impliment some sort of official policy of displeasure with such pursuits.

    Damn you RIAA.

    KFG

  14. yow! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    The RIAA and MPAA Target Day-Job Downloaders

    That's it, I'm switching to the night shift!

  15. Don't worry, it won't cost the RIAA a red cent by kfg · · Score: 2, Funny

    The music companies they represent are billing it back against the artists, just like everything else.

    KFG

  16. oooh...evil!!! by l33t-gu3lph1t3 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Here's my message to those who would decry this as another RIAA/MPAA evil act:

    Just remember, kiddies, that most large workplaces don't even CARE WTF you're doing on their computers, as long as it isn't work related. Using company equipment for non-work-related activities is grounds for dismissal in many firms, so the RIAA really shouldn't have any resistance here. They're lobbying for a different idea, but will have the same result.

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  17. Cartoon by limekiller4 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I swear to god, every time I read something like this I have a flashback of being a kid and watching a cartoon character trying to plug up a leaking dam with his finger, then the other, then a toe, then the other toe...

    Valenti does look a lot like Droopy, you have to admit.

    Valenti
    Droopy

    Or if we're going for apropos over strict resemblance...

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  18. RIAA is too late by blair1q · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Any company that doesn't have this in place already as either a copyright-infringement policy or an unnecessary burden on resources is too dumb to read the RIAA's threats anyway.

  19. Not children - Adults. by nlinecomputers · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I happen to be a business owner.

    MY bandwidth and My PCs are just that - MINE.

    Don't like it. Don't work for me.

    Maybe I don't want to be sued just because you are a thief. Personlly I think most of the IP laws are crap but that doesn't mean that I desire(or have the money) to be the fucking test case just because you are NOT adult enough to *gasp* ask my permission before you put MY company at risk.

    So after I fire your ass I'll have your ass arrested for theft of MY bandwidth and MY storage space.

    Is THAT adult enough? You self-centered little troll.

    I sorry that you think that putting the rules down in writting is a "childish" act. It isn't. It is what adults do. Adults don't assume what others should know or expect. They explain out in front what is and isn't expected. Why? Because some people like yourself will assume that employment GIVES them the right to do it. It doesn't. Only if the employer is willing to allow it. And if he is then he should put THAT in writting too.

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  20. Finally... by kien · · Score: 2, Funny
    I've been waiting for them to empty the other barrel of the shotgun into their foot.

    Now I have a reason.

    Ladies and Gentlemen of the Board, thank you for allowing me to speak. I'd like to address this letter and brochure that you have received from the entertainment cartels. What's that, Mr. Chairman? No sir, I did indeed call them cartels. No, please keep the lawyers in the room...they might find this informative. My presentation consists of the following:
    • How to spot a failing business model
      • Lessons we can learn from the RIAA/MPAA
    • How to avoid alienating customers
      • Where the RIAA went wrong
      • Where the MPAA went wrong
      • How to avoid pissing off your customers
    • The concept of Fair Use
    • Relevant strategic legal strategies
    • Conclusion: Screw 'em.


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  21. It was only a matter of time by c13v3rm0nk3y · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's was only a matter of time for this to happen.

    Individual companies have already contacted those businesses with a lot of "personal time" being spent on corporate networks. My own company was approached and mildly threatened by Sony because of P2P sharing.

    Our IT people blocked the ports, and threatened us with various forms of violence if we shared/downloaded media. No distinction was made between legal or illegal downloads (if there really is such a thing).

    Personally, I feel that home is the place to steal music. Work is for stealing software.

    That last was a joke. Laugh. It's funny.

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  22. Why is The Man trying to keep me down?? by sawilson · · Score: 4, Insightful

    But Seriously, I agree with most of what The Man
    has to say from a purely (owning the network
    and having to deal with all the bullshit)
    perspective. I'm all for anything that's going
    to mean that I don't have to waste a considerable
    amount of time writting/revamping scripts to look
    for the latest file sharing software. A few places
    I've been already have strong stances on this stuff
    because it costs a company a SHITLOAD of money for
    bandwidth to support the 15 girls in customer
    service, 10 guys in tech support, and ALL the guys
    in admin that are downloading 30 gigs of movies,
    mp3s, and warez a day. My opinion is, what happens
    out of work is out of work. Do that shit at home.
    Hell, I don't care if you bring a cd you burned
    at home to work with your 200 alan jackson songs
    on it. Just don't create work and trouble for me.
    Stick to playing solitaire and minesweeper and all
    the other important things you do on your wintel
    machines. Save the bandwidth for important things
    like first person shooters.

  23. It's just a courtroom tool by Proneax · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Since this sounds like something that well-managed corporate networks should be doing already (maybe not individal audits, but blocking p2p), this may just be a symbolic act so that later they can say, "Hey, we even sent out letters to all these companies......blah blah" and make up some case for themselves in court.

  24. Reception by NeoMoose · · Score: 2, Funny

    RIAA and MPAA,
    Please see to it that your brochures are delivered to the proper suggestions box. They can be located out behind the offices, just find the B.F.I. logo and throw them in.

  25. What about universities? by apple-marc · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Most (if not all) have bradband connections - and students - no money and in the RIAA's usual target audience - probably download much more music.

    1. Re:What about universities? by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well first, they have gone after some universities but second, universities can be a much tougher target. The large ones have lots of lawyers and many are state schools, ie the government. Also there is the whole academic freedom thing and teh concept of not putting up general restrictions. The "common carrier" defense would probably work at this point and that is NOT something the RIAA wants tested in court. It would be rather bad for them to have case law backing that ISPs were common carriers just like the telcos. At this point, if they e-mail with a specific violation, that erson will get their access terminated just like someone on an ISP. If they tried this and lost people might just give them the finger on the common carrier grounds and tell them to go prosecute the person responsable.

      It's much easier to tell a bussiness they should restrict P2P since they tend to have plenty of restriction on their network anyhow.

  26. Contents of the memo here by worst_name_ever · · Score: 3, Informative

    If you're having trouble finding the "suggested memo" on the RIAA's website, here's a mirror.

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  27. Yes, and? by Duncan3 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Well, you are stealing their shit. And it is shit, least-common denominator teenie-bopper crap.

    Maybe if people would get off their asses and explore the net for local bands they can go watch live, 99% of which will give you their mp3's online so you'll come see the shows.

    No artist has ever made a cent off record sales, they make it from CONCERTS. So stop feeding the beast, and feed the artists. Go see something local, buy the Tshirt and CD at the concert if you must.

    Stop all your damn whining about how people get mad when you steal their shit. You have two options, but you have to vote by spending your money. Stealing or bitching about it are both not voting at all.

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  28. The next letter by diabolus_in_america · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This letter, in my opinion, is simply the calm before the storm. The RIAA and MPAA are really after the home user, specifically the home user with a broadband connection.

    But, how do they get at the home user? Instead of targeting them initially, it appears that their strategy is to set the stage with a series of meaningless letters to Fortune 1000 companies.

    Why are they meaningless? Simply, most Fortune 1000 companies already have policies in place against downloading files, viewing adult material and even surfing that is not work-related. My company is nowhere close to the Fortune 1000, but we have policies like these in place and have for some time.

    What the RIAA and the MPAA are trying to do is to create a climate where it will be viewed as appropriate to target the home user *next*. Once this letter and memo has been distributed to Fortune 1000 companies, the RIAA and MPAA will in effect have created a precedent that logically extends from the workplace into the home.

    They are sneaky, and they seem to realize that they need to be careful about targetting home users; after all, the home broadband user is also a key revenue source for both of them. They realize this. I just hope the American public wakes up to the devious nature of these two organizations before the real war against the broadband user begins.

    1. Re:The next letter by danoatvulaw · · Score: 3, Insightful

      While your thought is admirable, I have to go ahead and disagree with you. I understand that the home user is the one who typically downloads more then the office user, and that they pose more of an infringer. But from a cost/benefit analysis standpoint alone, they would never start filing suit against more then a handful of home users. Litigation is expensive as hell, and they would have to sue millions of people to make it worth while. Not to mention that they'd be suing a bunch of judgment proof individuals. The real money they hope to get is from the corps for contributory/vicarious copyright infringement - they have the deep pockets. If they are just doing this as a scare tactic, then it might be an effective way to get the average person to stop trading mp3's for fear of liability, but to actually follow it through on a large scale would be completely cost ineffective in the long run....

  29. Freenet -- by Bonker · · Score: 3, Insightful

    As long as the Freenet project continues distribute its main download in the form of a Java class and not platform specific binaries, it will *never* work well enough to be useful to people in the same manner that Kazaa, or even Gnutella are.

    You can whine and kvetch all day long about how wondeful are, but the simple fact of the matter is that the fact that you have to install a virtual machine to run Freenet makes it useful only to people who understand how to install a virtual machine.

    There are ways to compile Java to platform-specific binaries that don't require a virtual machine to run. The freenet project should make binaries like this available for download for PC and Macintosh. Doing otherwise is shooting themselves in the foot for the sake of shooting themselves in the foot.

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    1. Re:Freenet -- by jrockway · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Uh, isn't Limewire Java? It sure is on my machine! :)

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    2. Re:Freenet -- by HerbieStone · · Score: 2, Informative

      This is really a non-issue. You can packkage your java-classes with runtime environment into a nice setup.exe and then download and install all of it in one go.

  30. AOL TimeWarner ads say trade songs with RoadRunner by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting



    I just heard on Time Warner cable channel today, in a pitch for AOL/Time Warner's digital cable service/road runner, that you can "download movies on demand" and "trade songs with families and friends" as part of their pitch for selling their service.

    Time Warner is part of the MPAA/RIAA. Very interesting to hear that they are pitching "trade songs with families and friends" as part of road runner. What type of applications do you think they are talking about when they mention "trade songs..."? What applications other than p2p are the general public aware of when it comes to "trading songs..."?

    Is AOL/Time Warner pitching p2p file sharing as a reason to get their service?

    Can someone capture the audio on this commercial and email it to one of the groups that are fighting for fair use rights in Washington?

  31. Listening to music by moncyb · · Score: 2, Funny

    I agree with you on the points where you say employees shouldn't be allowed to do illegal things on company time, waste time at work, or use up company resorces for non-work purposes. But are you seriously saying listening to music wastes company time?

    I'm listening to music now. Do you think I took longer to write this post just because I'm listening to music???

    /me wishing I could remember where those studies are which said music boosted productivity.

  32. Hah... Amateurs. by ebbomega · · Score: 2, Funny

    ssh -X home.box.address
    pyslsk

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