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Apple to Announce new Mac OS X version in June
swiert writes "Apple has announced that the WWDC conference has been rescheduled in order to present the new version of Mac OS X, codenamed "Panther". Unfortunately, Apple haven't given any details about what to expect from Panther, but after Jaguar this looks promising."
why does this have the amd logo instead of the apple logo? are you letting on more than the article blurb?
roman numerals seriously are not that hard people X+1=XI
MR Taco is the /. repost king.
:P
Way to go taco. Noch another one down.
Love the AMD icon BTW.
I hope this one is a freebie (doubtful), but at least it's not usability-mandatory like the move to Jaguar was. Mac OS X pre-Jaguar was not good enough to be productive, so then Apple releases Jaguar, and everyone shells out $79 (in my case, student discount) for the upgrade to a usable OS.
I wonder how much they'll suck us for this time.
The real question isn't "why does this article have an AMD logo". The real question is "why do people post a question when it has already been posted by others?"
...if it's not "Pink" then I will be very disappointed!
You have diamond theme, and your screensaver could feature the bulmbing antics of Inspector "Meecroseeeft" as he tries to do the same tasks the Pink Panther so suavely and easily performs.
- JoeShmoe
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-- I wonder which will go down in history as the bigger failure: the War on Drugs or the War on Filesharing
Many people were wondering at the choice of Jaguar and Panther for the latest Mac OS X names. Wanting to get to the bottom of this I asked the Apple heads, and this is what they told me:
"Well, we did want to name it yellow-tailed marmoset at first, but figured it was a little wimpy and obscure. Bitch was suggested too, until we remembered Microsoft had already taken that (albeit in their case it was the name they bestowed on users of Windows). What else choice did we have? Like an OS called Poodle would sell any copies..."
And there you have it!
is jdk 1.4.1 (currently available from apple's software update). this is BIG to java developers -- I had one friend sell his powerbook 6 months ago b/c he got tired of it coming out "any day now." But it's not vapor anymore, finally.
Actually, both are correct, depending on the part of the world you're in. The article submitter is probably British, where one refers to company actions in the plural, even when the company's name is in the singular form.
Marxism is the opiate of dumbasses
I think it should be called "Ocelot". Pronounced "OS-A-Lot". It's another spotted cat.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. The story is a dupe, the topic is boring, the facts weren't checked. WE GET IT!!
...this be like comparing Apples to Athlons?
Ba du dum.
There is nothing wrong with being gay. It's getting caught where the trouble lies.
Well, thank god both are correct as the blurb uses both forms.
"Apple has..." is used at the start, and "Apple haven't..." is then used in the second sentence.
And yes, this post is really as pointless as it looks.
It's a good thing slashdot never posts anything that may cause sensational rumors and misinformation :P
its obvious they will charge for it, it is not manditory you purchase it. Your laptop will have the same functionality (or perhaps more given the 10.2.X updates) when you purchased it-- if you want to add value you can choose to upgrade your system- otherwise all the original functionality will still be there for you.
Microsoft did not give out copies of Windows XP to people who bought computers with Windows 98.
System-wide metal interface
Support for 64-Bit architecture
QuickTime 6.5
iChat 2.0 with videoconferencing capabilities
Final Safari release 1.0 GM
Updated iApps (possible inclusion of iWorks?)
Enhanced Dock features
Overall system speed enhancements
Optimized for the new systems (AMD, Itanium or PPC970??)
Karma: The shiznight, mostly because I am the Drizzle.
The AMD logo is CmdrTaco's subtle hint.....
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"In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."
-- George Orwell
The real question is "why do people post a question when it has already been posted by others?"
Apple has said that they are moving WWDC (the Apple Developer conference) to coincide with Macworld in June. here
They are doing this because they want the developers to have access to "new features" that won't be ready until then. There are also reports like this that indicate that Apple is about to release a new architecture based on the PowerPC 64 bit G5 processor.
It takes an important reason to reschedule a convention the size of WWDC. I believe that the move is an effort to keep details of the new G5 machines secret from everyone INCLUDING developers until the product announcement.
If the bids for the motherboards are due any day, then the release of the G5 boards could easily be made in June with production release soon after.
If you think Apple is REALLY switching to iX86 technology, I've got a small country to sell you.
The next version will catch up with Windows XP, so it should be called Max OS XP.......
This is sarcasm, so don't flame!
I want my rights back. I was actually using them when our government stole them after 9/11.
Funny thing about the PPC 970 is that it can handle 32-bit as well as 64-bit instructions. Panther would probably just add 64-bit support, rather than become a total 64-bit OS.
"Some fight for law. Some fight for justice. What will you fight for? One day, you will see."
I would like to see a few more finder a gui options. A few of the things I would like to see: desktop panes, speed improvements, faster boot time.
Adam
Last time around, Apple forced people to pay for 10.2 to fix the broken parts of 10.1 (most notably OpenGL.) Let's hope they don't ransom the bug fixes again with 10.3
For great justice.
Pink? Nah, Apple already tried that.
Unfortunately, this story is 100% content-free. There aren't even any good rumors about Panther. I can think of only two explanations for this: either Panther is going to be remarkably free of anything new and interesting, or Panther is going to be so amazingly ultra-mind-bogglingly spectacular that Apple relocated the development team to some secret Iraqi WMD labs to protect the secrecy of the project.
If 10.3 is as big a step forward as 10.1 and 10.2 were, I will be glad to pay for it. Heck, I'll be thrilled to pay for it!
When all you have is an axe, everything looks like a grindstone.
It's amazing what you find out when you Google for your old memories of stuff you never heard about again... *grins*
You are not alone. This is not normal. None of this is normal.
Panthers are black (melanistic) leopards. the gene for melanism is recessive, so black leopards can have offspring with lighter coats. Jaguars are heavier than panthers. The panther has a narrower and smaller head. Genetically, leopards and jaguars are more closely related than lions or tigers. Snow leopards and Clouded leopards are even more distantly related, at one clade each.
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How does Steve pronounce Panther? "Panth-ire"?
How come Apple keeps on assigning code names for their OS X versions that were former names of Atari game systems?
:)
First they named the last version of OS X "Jaguar." Jaguar also was the last console game system made by Atari Corporation. The ill-fated "64-bit" (flame on!) game system...
Now they are naming their next version of OS X "Panther." Panther was also the name of the unproduced 32-bit game system Atari had under development until they cancelled it in favor of throwing all their development resources behind the Jaguar.
Seems kinda backwards if you ask me. Perhaps the previous version of OS X should've been named "Panther," since it was 32-bit based, and then saved the name "Jaguar" for the version of OS X set to support the Power PC 970 chip...thereby being a more appropriate 64 bit reference... But then again, Apple has to "think different"...
So, will we see a PalmOS based Apple PDA codenamed the "Lynx"?
- The Lynxpro
(forgot my password)
*anyone know how many former Atari Corp. (and Flare Ltd.) employees now work for Apple?
Microsoft did not give out copies of Windows XP to people who bought computers with Windows 98.
Not that I am in favor of proprietary software, but this is no way compares to the upgrade path for OS X.
Windows9x and NT are two completely different operating systems. I can see Microsoft marketing them as two different products and hence, owning one does not mean you get the other. However, paying to upgrade Windows95 to Windows98 is an absolutely asinine thing to do. That upgrade is essentially a set of system updates an a free web browser. In fact, one could upgrade Windows95 to Windows98 for free -- download the latest Internet Explorer and let it do shell integration. You got the kernel enhancements, a more threaded Explorer, and all that.
Going from Mac OS X 10.n to 10.n + 1 should cost nothing for someone who already owns 10.n. It is an incremental upgrade. Yes, 10.2 includes some very hot technologies (Quartz Extreme, for instance), but it is really only a marginal upgrade over the previous version. It is something the user should have received with previous versions, nothing radically new or improved.
Minor version upgrades have traditionally been something the user should have gotten with the previous release. They make a product you already own more complete. Charging for them is robery. Major releases, on the contrary, are typical radical advances in the software, such that it is largely dissimilar from previous major releases. MacOS 9 versus MacOS X is an example of this -- that's a worthwhile purchase.
Why bother.
http://developer.apple.com/wwdc/descriptions.html
Apple goes into some details about what will be in the next major rev of the OS.
Cheers,
- Zav - Imagine a Beowulf cluster of insensitive clods...
This says that AMD might make (manufacture) PowerPC chips. So maybe CmdrTaco isn't asleep after all.
A deep unwavering belief is a sure sign you're missing something...
No no no no no... See, this is /. and we <em>*HAVE*<em /> to have the latest release just like we have to have food to live. It isn't an option. So when the parent poster says (s)he is forced to buy it then one can safely so that it is true, Apple is extorting money from this geek! This is an international crime to force the geek to pay for the upgrade. We should invade One Infinite Loop and liberate the OS.
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The time is now to drop your jolt cola, fire up your major comipile jobs, lock up your computer room, don your smelliest sweat soaked t-shirt (hint, the one you're wearing right now), and go forth to meet at Zero Infinite Loop. We will attack at dawn (*).
* bring extra sweat soaked shirts for use as biological weapons against the door guards
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I'm running a theme that gives the metal interface to everything.
Not too shabby.
http://homepage.mac.com/max_08/themes.htm
"iWorks", if more than just a rumor, would probably consist of 1. a word processing app (TextEdit isn't truly powerful - what about initials and footnotes?), 2. (possibly) a publishing app (even if it's just for greeting cards and nasty boss letters), 3. a spreadsheet app, 4. a simple database app (most likely based on a FileMaker backend) and 5. a presentation app (Keynote, of course)
;-)
iLife was just released. iTunes will be upgraded (it's the oldest of the four, right now) soon, though.
There won't be that much benefit from a Cocoa rewrite. If you want a Cocoa Finder, give PathFinder a try; my experience with that one is that it has a few nice features, but is often way too slow (which reminds me of most other Cocoa apps, unfortunately).
New version of Safari? 1.0 isn't even out yet. Surely the 10.3 release will be the latest date they can offer the final; otherwise, it wouldn't make sense to me.
Video conferencing in iChat is quite likely - check its bundle for some unused icons
Multiple Customizable Docks - I doubt this. I hope they come up with a way to make the Dock a lot more useful, or, at least, fully replacable by third parties.
Now let's come to the less likely things:
- Metadata (Database FS)
As you said, they hired BeOS's file system engineer, who supposedly implemented journaling in HFS+. It would be very nice if he helped work on a metadata implementation.
My idea of it would be to work similarly as iTunes' Smart Playlists do, but even more transparently. Per default, the Metadata Finder won't show you the hierarchical file structure, but the semantical one. There could be such a topic as "downloads", which would show your recent downloads. It would consist of sections like "music" and "shareware". Each download would have information like "downloaded at" and "downloaded from" attached to it.
More interesting would be a topic like "e-mail", split up between your various e-mail folders. It would provide information like "date received", "subject", etc. Opening an e-mail letter would launch Mail.app with that specifict mail, of course. BeOS actually could do such a thing already, and that was half a decade ago.
Another topic is Aqua2: a resolution-independent approach. The Dock shows the benefit of (almost) perfectly resizable icons: No matter how good or bad your eyes are, you'll always be able to have the icons in your optimum size. But what about the rest of the GUI? Any of the text labels are already resizable, in theory. They're vector-based. Widgets, aren't, though.
I think one of the plans of Apple is to wait until we have very-high-resolution displays (closer to 300 dpi, instead of the currently typical 96 dpi) and then automatically scale any object on the GUI to fit best.
Rendezvous: I really hope Apple will offer a Rendezvous implementation for Windows. Some parts of it are there, already, but I have yet to see a working implementation example.
Like a lot of people have speculated, I expect that Safari 1.0 will be part of 10.3. However I think the bigger improvement will be in the release of WebCore along with integrated apps. A fast HTML renderer that is available to all apps will be quite useful. Not to mention that it would better the performance of any apple app that displays HTML, like Mail, Sherlock, Help Viewer (please!!!), Project Builder, etc ...
A Multiplayer Strategy Game for Mac OS X, Windows, and Linux
Why is it that there is always a few vocal whiners ready to spout off every time Apple wants to sell an OS upgrade?
1.) Apple users often claim that Apple is just a hardware company. According to them, the software is just a way to sell the hardware and that's why the hardware is so expensive.
When people ask why an update costs money, they are refering to Apple software beeing a "bonus" to the hardware.
2.) Microsoft (yeah, flame me) does still provide free updates for Win2k. Microsoft provides free updates (at least fixes, not always added features) for every Windows version for five years.
Apple's latest Security Update requires "Mac OS X 10.2.4 or later".
MacOS X 10.1 useres do no longer get scurity updates. They are forced to pay for an update.
Umm... because I have to pay $100 every time they decide to release bug fixes which should be free!
Apple has released dozens of bugfixes for Mac OS X which were free, whether maintenance upgrades of the OS, or Security Updates, etc. It charges for the major releases: 10.0, 10.1, 10.2. Stop the FUD.
For those don't know, Dominic Giampaulo was the brain behind BeOS BFS. If Apple has Dominic, expect to see some really great stuff.
J.
Actually, there's no reason Apple can't switch to Intel, while remaining a proprietary platform as well.
Apple simply needs to add a proprietary ASIC (application integrated circuit) to the motherboard to keep clone makers at bay.
Apple could use the cheap pc components to bring their prices down. They'd be able to say their machines run at the same MHz as pcs. But if you wanted to run Mac OS X on Intel, you'd still have to buy a computer from Apple.
Hence, no need for the drivers you mention.
(You may also recall, that Motorola and IBM briefly made PowerPC machines (I'm not talking about the Mac clones either) that were NOT capable of running Mac OS 8/9. These machines ran AIX or other unix OSes. But the motherboards lacked the correct ASICs to run the Mac OS.
- dj
What I *really* hope the anounce is support for AMD's x86-64 architecture.
;-)
It's been said many times already, so I'll just make it short: If Apple were to support the x86 architecture, it would only be on Apple hardware. For the near future (as long as Apple makes its money from hardware sales), you can forget about running OS X on your x86 box.
Finally, please, PLEASE Steve, simple admit that a two-button mouse (along with scroll well which also serves as a third button) is simply better than a single-button Apple mouse, and get on with it!!! A one-button mouse SUCKS!!!
I agree, which is why I use a three button/scroll wheel mouse on all my Macs. It really doesn't cost that much, and I don't have to spend any energy frustrated about what Steve Jobs thinks.
Bzzt. Wrong. There's an update for 10.1.5 as well.
Security Update 2003-03-03 (10.1.5): Information and Download