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WLANs As Spam Conduit

Saint Aardvark writes "According to this article, a honeypot was recently set up on two wireless LANs. 25% of the connections observed were deliberate, and 71% of those were to send spam. Even more reason to take care of your ether." These statistics should be taken with a salt lick...

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  1. How about... by ilduce · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...public vigilante executions of spammers? Kinda like a citizens arrest, but more permenant. Just a thought.

    1. Re:How about... by Kj0n · · Score: 2, Funny

      What about a flamewar?

      With *REAL* flamethrowers, of course!

    2. Re:How about... by dev11 · · Score: 5, Interesting
      Unsolicited email is annoying, but I guess what really angers me about the majority of the spam I get is:

      Sleaziness. Penis enlargers, teen sluts, and porn of questionable legality. If I had young kids, this would really piss me off if they got sent this crap.

      Fraud. This is somewhat related to the above. Most of these products are most likely frauds, or of questionable value. Masking your identity through forging headers, using open relays and the like. If your product is so great, you shouldn't have to hide yourself. Spam is the snake oil of the new century.

      Intrusiveness. Embedding images in HTML email that the client fetches and confirms your email is "live", so it can be sold and put on more spam lists. I am still in the stone age and use pine and never HTML mail, but most non tech people use Outlook, which has this as default behavior. Also, claiming that I opted in and now I need to specifically opt out, with some form that probably just confirms my address is pretty low.

      Volume. When I get 50 spam mail messages a day, and 10 or so legitimate messages, email as a communications medium is seriously flawed in it's present form. Many get hundreds of spams a day. Blacklists and Spam Assassin help some, but there are too many false positives.

      Commercial email is OK, provided that I signed up for it and the company doesn't try to hide their identity. Some of this is actually useful at times. It would be nice if there could be an analog of a do not call list for email, but that is not technically feasible at present with the current protocol. A new protocol needs to be implemented. As much as I hate spam, I prefer technical solutions rather than handing control to the government. Even if there were spam laws (I know some states have them), they are ineffectual.

    3. Re:How about... by Lynn+Benfield · · Score: 2, Informative

      Blacklists and Spam Assassin help some, but there are too many false positives

      Perhaps not as many as you'd think though - I recently switched from Spamfire (keyword based filter) to POPFile (Bayesian with list of known-to-be-good-senders), and have been very impressed.

      It's been running for 10 days, has processed 1108 mails, and made 26 mistakes. Almost all of which were in the first 24 hours - I've been checking my spam folder a couple of times a day, and have had 3 false positives in the last week (all receipts from online orders).

      So far it's claiming 97.65% accuracy, with 60% of the mail passing through it being spam.

  2. Please, keep the internet free by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Block all ports except 80 if you have to... just don't take away my free access!

    1. Re:Please, keep the internet free by shadwwulf · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Even port leaving port 80 isn't safe due to the Form_Mail.pl security issue that is plauging web servers all over and dumping spam into a mail spool near you.

      My point is that mearly blocking ports is never the answer, keeping your patches up to date and not running open relays is a simple solution.

      My $0.02

    2. Re:Please, keep the internet free by XNormal · · Score: 2, Informative

      My point is that mearly blocking ports is never the answer, keeping your patches up to date and not running open relays is a simple solution.

      And how is that going to help if your wireless LAN is wide open to anyone passing by? The mail relay is, by definition, open for insiders.

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  3. tequila by Entropy_ah · · Score: 5, Funny

    These statistics should be taken with a salt lick...
    Does spam go well with tequila?

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  4. Spam on the cell. by zbowling · · Score: 5, Informative

    Spam and telemarketing calls to a persons cell phone (or any system where the person that is being called has to pay for the call) is currently illegal in the states under telecommunications act of 1989. Its the same act that allows us to ask to be put on a company's not calling list and sue if they call back. Do a google for it. Some cool ways to protect yourself using the law.

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  5. 4 percent? by f13nd · · Score: 3, Interesting

    what about the other 4%... was that accidental?

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    1. Re:4 percent? by eander315 · · Score: 4, Informative
      Read that sentence a little closer. It says that 25% of the connections were deliberate, and among those connections, 71% were used for spam. That means that something like 17% of the total connections were used for spam.

      The other 75% is the part that is presumably connecting by mistake.

    2. Re:4 percent? by edrugtrader · · Score: 2, Insightful

      how does this get modded up... 25% were deliberate and 71% OF THOSE were used to send spam.

      that means 75% were not deliberate.

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  6. Um...no. by waldoj · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Wait, so this company, "Z/Yen," has determined that 71% of malicious connections to wireless networks are used for sending spam, and they've done so on the strength of setting up a grand total of two WiFi hotspots in one unspecified city (which I assume to be London, because that's where they're located) for an unspecifed time span...and this leads to conclusive results? That's just stupid.

    In other news, based on my survey of my apartment, 75% of people are running Mac OS X, and 25% are running Linux.

    -Waldo Jaquith

    1. Re:Um...no. by zapatero · · Score: 5, Funny

      So two security companies set out to do "research" on WLAN access and the results of their findings conclude that security is needed. These are staggering results. Who woulda guessed.

      It's ground breaking research. It ranks up there with Philip Morris' discovery that lung cancer is cuased primarily by cat dander. And McDonald's dietary discovery that low cholesterol leads to depression and suicide.

  7. Clarity by John+Paul+Jones · · Score: 4, Interesting
    The survey found that almost a quarter of unauthorised connections to the WLANs were intentional, with 71 percent used to send emails.

    Umm... First, this means that 75% of the connections were not intentional? Is this the equivalent of 75 people saying they're sorry for stepping on your toes, while 25 people did it on purpose?

    Second, define "emails". Is that 10? 10,000?

    This seems a bit alarmist.

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  8. Port 80 is Perfectly Safe by waldoj · · Score: 3, Informative

    Even port leaving port 80 isn't safe due to the Form_Mail.pl security issue that is plauging web servers all over and dumping spam into a mail spool near you.

    There's no problem with keeping port 80 open. It's running an unsecured web-based non-authenticated mail relay that's the problem.

    -Waldo Jaquith

  9. Serious? by molrak · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So let me get this straight. As opposed to just sitting in the apartments or offices or whatever, spammers are now riding around major urban areas trying to find insecure wireless networks? This, to me, would seem to be a tremendous waste of time.

    I'll admit, I don't understand why people spam; but the economics of such a thing simply don't seem practicle. The 25% would seem to be about right to me, but that 18% of the total was just for spam, just doesn't seem to add up.

    Then again, as Mark Twain said, "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."

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    1. Re:Serious? by John+Paul+Jones · · Score: 2, Informative

      Erm. It was Benjamin Disraeli, not Sam Clemens.

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    2. Re:Serious? by doorbot.com · · Score: 2, Funny

      Then again, as Mark Twain said, "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."

      As "they" say, torture the data until it confesses.

  10. Misquote by Mattygfunk1 · · Score: 4, Insightful
    ... and 71% of those were to send spam.

    The summary misquotes the article here. 71% of the connections sent email - not necessarily spam email. I am surprised the figure wasn't higher.

    Anyway it is hardly groundbreaking news that you have to secure wireless internet connections.

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  11. public spots by saben78 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's easy for the home and business admin to secure his/her AP. But how do public access places like airports and StarBucks counter drive by spamming?

    Any ideas?

    1. Re:public spots by jratcliffe · · Score: 2, Informative

      If memory serves, the service providers (Boingo, T-mobile, etc.) use a client on your PC to authenticate you (probably MAC-based, but I'm not sure). Their concern isn't just security, of course, but making sure that you actually pay for the service.

  12. Oh, take heed! by interstellar_donkey · · Score: 5, Funny

    Remember folks, there are surly looking spammers driving through your surburbian neighborhood right now just looking to abuse your DSL connection through your unsecured access point to send spam.

    So if your router gives out a DHCP address in the middle of the night, run outside in your pajamas with a baseball bat. There are spammers you need to teach a lesson.

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    1. Re:Oh, take heed! by buss_error · · Score: 2, Funny

      How long until we see:
      Make money FAST crusing your neighborhood! Annoy millions of people with unrelenting spam!

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    2. Re:Oh, take heed! by ColdGrits · · Score: 2, Funny

      Actually, what I do for any emails some scumbag sends unauthorised through my WLAN is as follows -

      If they are obviously spamming (sending email to loads of people), deny access (the first few may get through but the rest would not as soon as spamming was detected).

      Otherwise, accept their email and send it on to the destination.

      Oh, I forgot to mention that all email sent this way is first run through "pornalizer".

      Don't like your emails being pornalized that way (I *DO* hope it is an email to your Mum)? Tough shit. You use my bandwidth, you accept the consequences.

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  13. Get-rich-quick scheme by xintegerx · · Score: 4, Funny

    I just received in e-mail..

    1) Sue for "Cable Theft" (if cable ISP)

    2) Sue for "Denial of Service Attack" (since the intent of spam is to fill up your mailbox, causing you to give up real e-mails.)

    3) Sue for "Espionage" if you both received a 'viagra' spamvertisement and the e-mail says it's not commercial spam, because if it's non-commercial, they were watching you through a window and wanted to notify you of viagra!

    4) Is the spam for an ergonomic peripheral, like mouse or keyboard or computer chair? Or maybe, the company offers you pills to decrease your hormonones? In either case, this means they think you might have repetitive stress syndrome from using your... tool. This is either "Espionage" (they saw it), or "Intent of Deliberate Harm" (they e-mail you so much shit, they KNOW you are guaranteed to have RSS in your wrists....

    5) ???

    6) Profit

  14. Bad logic. by twitter · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Huh? What statistics? Where was this thing set up? How many hits did they record, 4? Did they deliver the spam? Was the welcome message, "Tell all your leet friends about the spam relay here!" Is someone at the RSA office the type that thinks they can make a fast buck selling dick enlargers? F+

    The study, as presented is useless except to divide people. They might have just as well said that the internet itself was evil for enabling spam. I can say the same thing about materials used to make billboards. The RSA says, "Don't share, people." Great!

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  15. You arent kidding by t0ny · · Score: 3, Insightful
    so that means that, citing their statistics, at least 30% of people have closet spammers living near them. Ya right!

    I mean, Im sure most people living near me wouldnt mind downloading pr0n with my connection, but sending spam? Even if they had said hacking I would consider that a stretch. Its not like every kiddy is a script kiddy.

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  16. Well.. duh.. but seriously, it's wild out there. by smeenz · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The finding doesn't surpise me much. As far as I'm concerned, a wireless lan should be considered at least as dangerous as your internet connection, and should be firewalled appropriately. What makes them more dangerous is that it's like having your users sit in your DMZ.. their laptops with wireless cards can be wide open and they don't have a clue. I guess it's just like when those users use a dialup modem account without a firewall, but because they're often connected to the corporate network via a vpn etc, they believe they are somehow more secure. They might well have a ipsec or mppe vpn active, but that doesn't usually stop windows from listening on ports 137/138/445. And how many windows users do you really think are going to run a 'personal' firewall and/or understand what they've got themselves into by going wireless.

  17. Re:Those stats don't seem that off to me. by aweraw · · Score: 2, Interesting

    my 'Inbox' at work is about 10% legitimate e-mail...

    60% legitimate mail? to me thats like heaven...

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  18. Intelligence by rf0 · · Score: 3, Funny

    This is showing spammers are intelligent and learning. That can't be right can it? :)

    Rus

  19. Re:Those stats don't seem that off to me. by chunkwhite86 · · Score: 2, Funny

    I've read repeatedly that some percentage of all email is spam. I think the number that usually gets thrown around is 40%.

    Well that sure as hell isn't my inbox. I'm lucky if one in twenty message is NOT spam.

    I really should get some friends though... ;-)

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  20. Re:Those stats don't seem that off to me. by inaeldi · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I get about 1 spam message every few days on my main account. I just take very good care of where I use the email address.

    My hotmail account on the other hand...

  21. Re:One day /. will implode by chunkwhite86 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The PATRIOT act is used to define SPAM as terrorism.

    I hope so... If we start hunting down spammers with the same tenacity as if they were terrorists... we'd all be better off.

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  22. sounds like shit to me... by drwho · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I've had an access point with public access set up in the middle of a major city for several years now, and have never seen a SINGLE spam attempt. As much as I hate spammers, I think this 'warning' is just hype.

  23. Counterplot by Julian+Morrison · · Score: 2, Funny

    Wireless spam? I'm thinking that's not necessarily such a bad thing. (1) wireless broadcasting objects are locatable in 3D using the proper detection tools (2) a wireless enabled laptop is deliberately radio-permeable and structured so as to pick up radio energy.

    Solution: directional high powered radio emitters on the 802.11b wavelength. Target the suckas and zap the bejeezus out of 'em.

    Mmmm, fried spam.

  24. Sounds familiar by gmajor · · Score: 3, Informative

    For a class I took, a professor set up a temporary mail server that we needed to use for an assignment. He of course took precautions, making sure mail was only routed to a certain domain.

    But within 48 hours, the mail server was found by spammers!

    He even had a great idea for anti-spam software/blocking. Set up these honeypots in different geographical locations, but don't publish the addresses; let the spammers find them. Have them accept mail as if they would route it, but do not actually send it out. We can assume any e-mails received are spam. Make a collection of spam e-mails, and have filters block out mail that closely matches all the mails the honeypots have received.

  25. E-mail or spam? by stuartkahler · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It didn't clearly state whether they checked if the unauthorized connections were actually sending bulk e-mail (spam), or just normal users using the open net connection to send out their e-mail. I could see people writing e-mails and saving them for when they happen by an open wlan.

    Do any e-mail programs automatically send out pending messages as soon as a network connection is detected?

  26. Idea by use_compress · · Score: 2, Funny

    Step 1: Purchase private island Step 2: Make private island autonomous country Step 3: Cover island with free Wifi Step 4: Implement secret anti-spam laws with Singapore-style penalties Step 5: Wait for spammers to come

  27. I would like to call BS by La+Camiseta · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Ok, I admit it, I do tend to go out front of other's places and use their wireless connections. And yes, most of the time it's for email. But you have to realize that just because you're sending out a dozen or so emails, it doesn't mean that it's spam. I like to use my email client in offline mode, and so I kind of "save up" the emails to send later, and then send them all at once. It's not spam, it's just communication.

  28. Mail, not Spam - and this is Good. by billstewart · · Score: 2, Informative

    The article doesn't say they were spamming, it just says they were sending mail, then starts ranting about spam. Of course they were sending mail - that's one of the big reasons that people want to use wireless, along with receiving their email and web surfing.

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  29. Built in sharing? by gad_zuki! · · Score: 2, Insightful

    > Block all ports except 80 if you have to... just don't take away my free access!

    I would if I could. I wouldn't mind sharing some of my connection with the people in my neighborhood, but security and just the nature of tcp/ip to go as fast as it can means it just ain't gonna happen. Not am I willing to set up more network equipment, VPN, etc.

    I'd love to see a built in DMZ with port 80 open and bandwidth thortling if I choose to share. Heck, this would probably solve half your security issues right there. Inept users would have a working link (just web/webmail) and a much more secure home network if they didn't bother to read the instructions and just plugged the thing in. Techies and free information types would have an easy way to share access to strangers.

    I live two doors away from a coffeeshop and with a second AP placed strategically near the window I should be able to get on the net from there.

    It would be nice if the next Linksys or whomever's firmware update had a "share a fraction of your connection for web users" option.

  30. NoCat Auth by jroysdon · · Score: 2, Interesting

    A good linux sysadmin could setup a multihomed Linux server between his AP(s) and broadband and use NoCat authentication to block this sort of thing, while allowing surfing (or whatever else).

  31. Can't believe it by sharok · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Spammers taking time to wander around war riding ?
    Get real, they don't waste their time like that. They send out a billion spams on a high speed cable line then go golfing (or whatever).

  32. Re:Not that I buy the figures, but... by weave · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Sigh, spammers ruin everything. I often use public hot spots when traveling to quickly slurp up some e-mail and send out pending e-mail (via an authenticated SMTP connection at my business host).

    I have Mac Stumbler running on my laptop and it pings me whenever I drive past a hotspot. Sometimes the hotspot will be named "public" or "public hotspot" even. (Saw a few of these in Tempe, Arizona. Was pretty amazed, and grateful).

    So if you're running one, I thank you.

  33. a bit slow by BenjyD · · Score: 4, Interesting

    In the honeypot test, the first unauthorised connection to the WLANs was made in just over two-and-a-half hours.

    There was a TV show in the UK that recently did something similar to this with bike theft. They left an unlocked bicycle on the high street of a northern town and set up hidden cameras to watch. Somebody nicked the bike within 30 seconds of the owner walking away. I guess spammers are a bit slower than your average criminal.

  34. darn by jago25_98 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    for someone who loves the idea of free(er) public networks via wireless this is a stick in the throat :/

    a minority ruins for the majority once again.

    can't we get rid of open email and just use private acl's?
    this is what I'm going to go for my next account.

  35. Bad, spammer, bad. by Vodak · · Score: 2, Funny

    How can we as a society have our cake and eat it too in regards to public wireless networks? The answer is simple... Allow people to shoot spammers on site. No long would being a repo man be the most dangerous line or work. =]

    On a more serious note spammers using these open wireless networks to send spam kind of negates the whole black list mail server things doesn't it.

  36. Spammers *ARE* looking for WLANs. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Both forced entries onto the wireless network I administer were for the purpose of sending spam email. The distance between the two incidents was 27 miles away from one another--the emails were for different "products and/or services," so the assumption is that it was two different spammers.

    Are spammers looking for open WLANs? Yes. And if they're not open, some are even attempting to find another way onto the network:

    Personally, I'd never thought anyone would go to the lengths of MAC Address Spoofing, AirSnorting the WEP key, and launching a man-in-the middle attack to get user authentication information.

    (Anonymous to protect my organization's identity.)

  37. Re:Those stats don't seem that off to me. by Blkdeath · · Score: 2, Insightful
    I've read repeatedly that some percentage of all email is spam. I think the number that usually gets thrown around is 40%.

    I can't remember the last time I got that much legitimate email...

    People like you are balanced out by people like me. I use "Contact Me" forms on my website rather than my e-mail address, I don't give out my real address, and I use a throw-away address for mailing lists and a free e-mail address (Softhome, Yahoo, etc.) for submitting to forms on the web where I have no choice.

    Only recently, and only through negligence on my part (posted to a couple mailing lists with my real address) have I ever received SPAM to a production e-mail address. I think I'm up to a total of ten SPAMs in the past decade.

    Of course, if you use a free web based e-mail provider, all bets are off. Those seem to get SPAMmed like there's no tomorrow. My little brother got a Hotmail account comprised of seemingly random letters and numbers (it was like "cewlgy007"; phonetically "Cool Guy Double-Oh-Seven") and was receiving pornography SPAM within two weeks. By about a week later, his INBOX was so crammed with the stuff the account became useless.

    I really wonder how these stats are gathered.

    Mail servers / filters often keep stats, so the filters from major ISPs are analyzed and the stats likely extrapolated from there. I'm no statistician so I won't elaborate, but that's my best guess.

    Now then, back to the topic ...

    The article is FUD. The headline is a scare tactic, the stats are garbage, and the conclusions only ring true based on empirical evidence. Yes, wide-open WLANs are used for malicious purposes every day. A simple DC converter, my laptop, and my bland million-just-like-it Cavalier becomes a DDoS/SPAM/H4x0r staging ground. I could drive the streets of Toronto (hey - traffic jam - more time!) all day long attacking people all over the world from a different address every time. Get a couple friends in on it and we've got ourselves a party!

    The solution is for companies implementing WLANs to atleast enable WEP. People aren't going to sit and run down their car battery (and expensive gas) waiting to crack a WEP key when they can find an easier target down the road. Coffee shops and the like that allow open WLANs should restrict traffic by port and proxy all traffic - with filters imposed.

    People should also tell their Congress-Critters that war drivers who publicize open WLANs are NOT TERRORISTS! These people are helping by raising awareness of open access to the Internet, intentionally or otherwise. People just have to learn to pay the hell attention and do something about it. I mean, seriously, someone comes along and tells you that you have an easily correctable hole in your network that could be used maliciously and cost you thousands (millions?) of dollars - and you want to throw THEM in prison? Get real!

    Anyways, this article doesn't seem terribly worth further discourse, so colour me outta here ...

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  38. But 1 false positive is unacceptable by bluGill · · Score: 2, Informative

    If I get even one false positive, it means I have to manually wade through the 35 SPAM (actual count today) messages I got today, just incase one was a false positive. In effect the spam matching effort is wasted because I still have to look at all the spam. I want spam elimination software to get rid of the spam so I can go on with my life without paying attention to it. When I have to pay attention to it at all, that means that the software is worthless.

    False negatives are not as bad. If I can get rid of all the breast enhancement ads (without losing the gossip about some aunt who got enhancements) my life would be better. But if there is a flase match what is the point?

    Email is a tool. I get messages every day that I need to read. Most people don't call me, and I used to encourage that as I would prefer to communicate over email. (almost as fast as a phone, but there is a chance to take those stupid things I tend to say back) Spam has made email nearly useless for general communication though.

    1. Re:But 1 false positive is unacceptable by Brian+Kendig · · Score: 2, Informative

      I have my mail server set up to automatically recognize incoming spam and reject it with an error message which says 'this is being rejected because it looks like spam; if it's not, please resend it to notspam@mydomain.com.' That's an address which I've set up to completely bypass my spam filters and come directly to my inbox.

      In the past six months I have never received even a single piece of spam at my 'notspam' address, which is only advertised through this error messages. And even if any spammers did get hold of it, I could just change the address to something else.

      I've had one or two people who sent me a message which was bounced (in both cases it was an email greeting card), and they saw this error message and re-sent to my 'notspam' address. I see this as a MUCH better approach than making me review my spam-bucket email every day.