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Tiny RC Tanks That Fight
Daniel Rutter writes "I've just reviewed a couple of Konami's Combat DigiQs - tiny little remote controlled tanks that can shoot each other. You can stage a two-, three- or four-tank battle, every tank for himself or in teams of two, on a coffee table. They rock."
don't i?
FP!
Those are Iraqi tanks!
Kids these days are too lucky . . . ;)
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Toys are just getting cooler and cooler these days. Why couldn't I have had RC Tank wars when I was a kid? It's just not fair.
Oh well. I guess I'll go back to playing with Lego and my good 'ol Speak-n-Spell.
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http://www.konami.co.jp/th/micro_ir/combat/english /index.html
ThinkGeek's had this for a while
http://www.thinkgeek.com/cubegoodies/toys/5776
It's laser tag though. Office Fun!
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It's sad that given the number of Iraqi civilians crushed underneath the mechanized assault of the supposedly 'enlightened' Western armed forces, that such horror has been trivialised so soon.
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weapons of minute destruction?
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The writeup of the article with the same text is already on JesusGeeks.
Fuck jesus and fuck you. You are the massive failure, little bitchtits.
Give me your anus to rape and we shall make a non-failure of your tiny, tight little failure of an asshole that is your mouth.....
A playground sandbox, a few quarts of 10w40, and you've got your very own miniature Iraq to "liberate"!
I think the BZFlag guys get the award for "most modifier goodies"- it made my dizzy, reading all the different kinds of flags there are. Forget a 'gunner', you need a 'flag checker'.
Driver:"Ooo, ooo! A flag! [steer steer steeer]"
Flag Checker(slow motion): "nnnooooooOOOO!"
-BOINK- BROADCAST MESSAGE: "Team A ran over Hippie Flag, now shooting Daisies"
I wish they'd do collaborative roles, so you really COULD have a driver, gunner, etc..that would ROCK.
Who remembers playing Bolo on their old Mac, or that crazy wireframe tank game? I forget the name, had a 3-D shaped retail box with a red pyramid or something
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I thought the U.S. destroyed all the Republican Guard divisions.
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Yeah, guess what moron - not only did you rush to try to get first post and, in doing so, write a comment without any meaningful discussion of the article or even the topic BUT you also failed to get first post. way to go! you're a failure twice over. you kids that try to act like you're not going after first post by writing some overly generic reply are more sad than the assholes that just type "FP" and hit submit. christ, get a fucking job you asshat.
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can the m10's take 4x the damage?
"I can not bring myself to believe that if knowledge presents danger, the solution is ignorance" - Isaac Asimov
But do you actually get killed when your tank blows up? I really find the lack of realism in games these days to be disturbing.
...I'm not sure I'd trust a review from a guy who looks like this.
Prepare your kids for a world in which - finally - the stronger can take what they need! Are you afraid that your son may become a homo peace activist? Give him tiny RC tanks and teach him how the world really works.
If these fire actual projectiles (as opposed to just a light beam), then I want one for my girlfriend's cats!
good to see some Australian sites being linked to on Slashdot
However i've had massive problems with every 3D version i've tried. Not only is my first guess almost always rather off because of the complications of the third dimension, but adjusting the shot takes a long time as well. It just takes way too long and isn't as much fun.
Of course hopefully the toy tanks wouldn't take so long to render, and it would be really easy to multi-thread and have them all shooting at once :)
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Doesn't the logo remind you of ChronoCross/Trigger? Strange....
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Scary when the tanks are being dwarfed by their remote controls 8-)
I just bought some crap toy and wrote a review on it - It's so cheesy it's cool yo! Thanks to Michael I just got /.ed - damn i'm 1337!
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Check this out http://www.arroyorc.com/tank.htm They can conquer the armies of gophers in your yard!
I've solved this problem by continuing to buy toys for myself - and now I've got money!
Fact is that as a kid I don't think I would have appreciated the coolness of this. A friend of mine had one of those helicopters that flew in circles, and model rocketry stuff, and I liked it but I thought it was all part of being a kid.
Now I own a Vectron Flying Saucer and a bunch of other cool stuff, and I still play with at much as if I were a kid. But now I realized how awesome it is scientifically, and the fact that things weren't always this cool.
Somehow wanting something for thiry years makes it that much sweeter. Makes me look forward to being eighty.
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if i enter the konami code,
will i get more lives?
...those tiny tanks, connected to a PC, so we can play over the Internet with our distant geek friends. :-)
:-)
Yeah of course we have videogames, but it would be much cooler to have the game happening in real-life 3D on a small table in the living room.
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If you jacked up the speed of your tank, you could outrun pretty much anything and get enough spare tanks to never lose. I once playd a single game for 6 or 7 hours. I wouldn't even pause the game to piss or refill the coffee cup (or pipe...).
Still a lot of fun, tho.
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Réservoirs Minuscules de RC Qui Combattent
Signalé par Michael le vendredi avril 11, @03:09PM
du département de la pratiquer-pour-Syrie
Daniel Rutter m'écrit "ont juste passé en revue un couple du combat DigiQs - les petits réservoirs commandés à distance minuscules de Konami qui peuvent se tirer. Vous pouvez mettre en scène des deux la bataille -, de trois ou de quatre-réservoir, chaque réservoir pour se ou dans les équipes de deux, sur une table de café. Elles basculent."
Then we are all complicit in Mugabes crimes, in Than Shwe's. Heck we don't even have a solution to North Korea?
My thinking is that 5-10 years time Iraq will be back as a dictatorship, not because arabs are incapable, but because the Oil that generates the majority of the wealth (and power) in the country is so easy to control.
The solution, diversify the economy, if that is possible with the western countries sucking up lots of the educated individuals.
What we could have done was instead of imposing sanctions, encouraged the middle classes to generate non-oil wealth weakening Saddams relative power base, indeed that is the strategy I would employ for Iran.
Social justice didn't really come about in western europe until the landed gentries monpoly of the money was eroded by the industrial revolution.
slashdot the entire pacific rim as 100,000 geeks download a 3Mb pdf from japan ....
To the commenter above, those are Mini R/C rovers, they are bigger and do not fight each other (thoguh they are hella kool too). I know that ThinkGeek is selling the Tiny R/C Digi Q Cars, but Moe Moe wants a tank to help fight in Iraq against Bush's "evil do-ers"!
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That's a terrible attitude. And sorry to bring up the past again, but supplying him weapons was literally complicity in Saddam's crimes.
Here's my suggestion, anyway: should've ended the sanctions, (that would've prevented huge numbers of Iraqi deaths over the last 12 years), and kept up with the inspections.
Of course, asking that question now is pointless now that the war is in full force. I can only sit back and hope the middle east doesn't fall apart in the next few years, hope that Iraq doesn't become another Islamic theocracy, and hope the US doesn't do anything stupid like invade Syria.
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"Knowledge is half the battle!" - GI JOE (he would have read the whole article, then gone off to kick Cobra Commander's ass...)
You know there's been a lot of mini RC race cars as of late; huge in Japan. But they never really were all that cool to me; I mean they've only got so much of a battery life and a range. But change that car to a tank, add a laser tag feature, and give it the ability to spy capablities (See: http://www.thinkgeek.com/cubegoodies/toys/59eb/ ) then you'll be sure to see me wasting time with these awesome little things.
Dan did some nice review with the DigiQ tanks. The tanks use IR that the IR receiver on any notebook can pick up. Coupled with a small custom application that detects the incoming commands and deciphers them you can play appropriate audio files to enhance the ongoing battle. Run it through your stereo system and it can get pretty noisy. Now I'm wondering if the IR port on my Sony CLIE Palm Pilot can be trained to control these beasties. :-)
My brother and I ordered them from Japan back during Christmas. They are in fact really cool little toys.
The advantages these little things have over the other MiniRC craze are:
No ugly/fragile antenna (IR Control)
Better cosmetic detail of the bodies. A couple little plastic pieces to glue on for added effect are included.
The IR Weapons onboard complete the ultimate childhood fantasy of having your little plastic army men fight.
Good control unit with swapable modules so you can use the same radio to control all the different types of tanks...
The IR control is pretty good as far as range is concerned as long as you have line of sight. You have to mind that you point the control unit in the general direction of the tank... I've been stalled and hit a couple times because I didn't pay attention. There are cool little LED special effects and shaking when your opponent hits you with a shot...
These things will have you building little obstacles and battlefields pretty soon after playing a couple rounds...
Glad somebody wrote a review on these Konami tanks... Very cool... There are also hobbyists who make larger 1/15 scale versions but they cost hundreds... You can get two of these for about $100 plus shipping from Japan right now.
These are Soviet WWII tanks (not too common, though). It would be interesting to have those models fighting against Shermans etc...
The T-35: a heavy but quite slow tank with five(!) turrets - a challenge for fire control
The BT-7: a light tank, but a fast one - max speed 86 km/h (on road, tracks off - no, I'm not kidding). A real winner in a race, and not exactly easy to hit (but if you hit it, it's down...)
Another fun thing would be rc planes with guns similar to those on these tanks. Imagine a fighter duel between a P-58 Mustang and a Zero, or an Me bf 109 and a Spitfire... (avoiding crashes could be a bit hard, though)
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I was going to put off the kids thing a few more years, but I need a justifiable reason to spend $125 on these things. So, if there's any women out there who would like to get married and have my child soon there after, and also provide me with your Visa card so I can order these tanks (for are soon to arrive child), please send me a message.
Thanks
Cool features I haven't seen mentioned here yet:
They are a bit pricey, but the WWII Winter set includes two tanks, plus obstacles to hide behind and decals.
The only other downside is that they're a little fragile.
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Who here has a Warhammer 40k map? I mean, the scale is practically perfect. Certainly close enough to make one heck of a battleground.
Now if I could only find someone near me.... hmmmmmm.
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You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood.
FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers. The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time FreeBSD developers Jordan Hubbard and Mike Smith only serve to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: FreeBSD is dying.
Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.
OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.
Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.
All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS dilettante dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.
Fact: *BSD is dying
They're more "tank looking", which is neat.
From reading the manual, I think the ones linked can change channels, TG's site warns you to get different channel models for multiplayer, which makes me think it can't be changed, which sucks.
These are farily sophisticated, with changing behavior according to damage taken, and a couple of modes to ignore "friendly fire".
I don't know how the price compares, the TG ones are $60 each, I think that's in the ballpark.
The question I have is: are the beams compatible? What if I shoot a tank with my old laser tag pistol? Granted, I haven't come up with a reason I'd want to do that, but I'll bet that someone could.
-Zipwow
I don't know which is more depressing, that 2/3 didn't care enough to vote, or that 1/2 of those that did are crazy.
From skimming the article, there's an "Advanced mode" that lets you set health and stuff, so I think you could set it up that way. I don't know if you can adjust speed, but that would be interesting as well: slow and powerful vs fast and fragile.
-Zipwow
I don't know which is more depressing, that 2/3 didn't care enough to vote, or that 1/2 of those that did are crazy.
should've ended the sanctions, (that would've prevented huge numbers of Iraqi deaths over the last 12 years)
Oh, do you mean via starvation? Because Saddam had the UN food and medicine for oil plan. That would end starvation. So what deaths do you mean?
Oh, I get it... you mean the non-economic deaths based upon the KILLING OF HIS OWN CITIZENS. I think you have no cogent argument about the UN sanctions causing the deaths of Iraqis. Please respond. I would love to hear your justification that the UN caused more deaths of Iraqis after the First Gulf War than Saddam did. Please back it up with facts.
Saddam kills his own people. I want to see Defense Department documents that prove we were complicit in the death of Iraqis that you claim. I can show you videotape right now that says that Saddam was a killer. You need to get your priorities straight, and stop reading websites that have outrageous claims and no proof.
For some time now I've felt that toys like this (especially the ones with the rotating turrets) could be a cool mall concession. Arcades no longer offer any appreciable advantage over home systems and my local mall has a kiddy train that goes around incircles. Put the two together with some sand and rocks and your have fun for all ages! I have to think a 5 or ten min frag session would make more than some crappy train.
it's nice to see that slashdot is continuing it's progression to becoming just a place where people can advertise and peddle garbage to a bunch of geeks for free.
Is this:
There's no question that, all other things unchanged, the world would be a better place without Saddam Hussein. What I don't like is the other things in the world we've changed by removing him this way. (this quote stolen from another poster, my apologies for not quoting him/her)
Nobody's arguing that Saddam's a nice guy. What many of the anti-war protesters are arguing is telling the UN security council to "STFU" and plodding ahead just the same.
That damage to world relations, I believe, is far greater than waiting longer to get people organized.
And, I don't believe for a minute that the US has any proof of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. The two attempts to show this proof we've seen, communications and photographs, were so poor that they were shown to be incorrect (I read: faked) within a week of their release to authorities.
Claims that "we can't tell, because it would risk lives" are pure smoke. For one, its not like showing Hans Blix and the president of France the information is the same as posting it on the net. For another, if you have the proof and its this important, withdraw or extract those informants.
I'm not against removing Saddam. I am against ignoring the other residents on this planet. I think its absurd to think that we're going to "bring democracy and conflict resolution" to a nation by ignoring the democratic processes that the world has set up to resolve conflicts.
-Zipwow
I don't know which is more depressing, that 2/3 didn't care enough to vote, or that 1/2 of those that did are crazy.
What better place to get air support for your ground troops than:
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This company has everything from blimps to B2 bomber, and more.
is actually called combat sumo. I would pay good money to see actual tanks do that in real life. I'd laugh my ass off.
Forget the kids, but if you need a g/f to be your tank opponent, I'm interested.
I wish mods could go above 5.
That's one of the funniest posts I've read all year...
I'm not getting one until it supports the Ogg format.
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..where the little guys inside jump out and run
when attack helicopters appear..or when there is
a report of a B52 strike incoming.
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From Konami's OWN English version page:
Please enjoy yourself using this manual.
I sure hope you DON'T use that manual to enjoy yourself! You might want to try reading it first. Or maybe printing it out. =)
No wonder the US is always going after a war. I really have a problem when anything related to war is turned into a game (see Sony trademarking "Shock and Awe"). What's next: toy civilians that bleed just like real ones?
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Someone already mentioned hooking up an IR controller to their serial port, but what about for over the net multiplayer? Some strategicly placed cameras, 4 tanks, 4 players. I'd do this to have battles with my friends over fields of 486 hardware. I'm sure you could figure out some cool scenarios too with extra IR receivers/senders on the battle field. Stationary guns for defense, minefields, etc. Maybe a game where one team must defend an IR target while the other attacks. This is a must have toy.
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Time for mini, tabletop, real bzflag. How can I get one with the guided missile option?
Someone mentioned that the 'firing' LED is not actually on the turret. Assuming it's not too big, couldn't a hole be drilled in the turret and have the LED placed inside the end of it? So if you were to motorize it, it would fire in the direction the turret's facing. And let's admit it, sometimes you just get stuck on the sand dunes.
Radio controlled tanks are nothing new - my neighbor had one 60 years ago.
He sat inside it, a radio signal came in, and in response to that message, he shot at Germans.
You don't say.
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Do the Iraqi mini tanks catch on fire faster?
The easily ignited flour is simply due to the fact that it's a carbohydrate, a very refined and rather dry one at that.
It's actually been a long-standing movie trick for big-looking explosions (for those working in smaller budgets) to use dry powders rather than traditional tamped (black powder) explosives or liquids because of the safety in handling it.
For information only (CYA disclaimer): A bag of white flower, laid flat with a good deal of liquid rubber cement on the up-side (or other suitable difficult to extinguish semi-plasti napalm) thrown from a high place on to something hard and flat will yield a spectacular fire storm. It'll also surprise you how much flour is left afterward - one big firy blast, and then a big white mess on the landing site.
Again, don't try this at home. Or at your enemies' homes.
You know, with a REALLY FAST reverse?
As you said, looks interesting. I believe it is a Christian geek site as some of the "Ask Jesusgeek" questions refer to setting up a cyber cafe at a church. Also the Theology section kinda gives it away.
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Anyone Remember Bolo?
That was an awesome Tank Program... anyone that remember it know if there is a more recent version(win or linux)?
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Yeah. And KMFDM & Doom caused Columbine. And playing D&D leads to Satanism. And hot oatmeal leads to chronic masturbation. And my penchant for Civ 3... too dastardly to mention. Same hype, different day.
Shall we start burning books?
Uhmm, they CAN be changed. You're not a geek unless you can figure it out, too.
Frequencies can ALWAYS be changed, it's just a matter of how much work you're willing to put into it.
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Has anybody played with the Smartland combat vehicles? Here's a retailer that has 'em for 16 bucks. Are they any good?
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