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SCO Threatens Red Hat and SuSE

Guy Smith writes "CRN reports that SCO will target SuSE and Red Hat with lawsuits after they are finished with IBM (providing that IBM allows them live). To quote Sco, "There will be a day of reckoning for Red Hat and SuSE when this is done." They seem bent on destroying the Open Source community and they deserve to hear the community's opinion on the matter."

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  1. After they're finished with IBM... by Anonymous+Struct · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...there won't be anything left. :)

    "Hey, you! When I'm done kickin' these four bouncers' asses, you're next! You and your huge friends, there!"

  2. SCO is a piece of garbage. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    SCO is a piece of garbage, hope they die painfully.

  3. even now they are crying for mercy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    The Open Source infidels will cower at the will of SCO. Even now Linus Torvalds is jumping off a cliff and Alan Cox is shaving his beard before the might of Sad^Wour lawyers. There is only one UNIX system. All other UNIX systems do not exist, and have never existed. We have nothing against Linux users, just against the hegemony of greedy oi^Wcode-stealing developers. May Al^Hshcroft have mercy upon you ALL!

    1. Re:even now they are crying for mercy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny
      Mod this up, it is actually relevant to the article! The rep actually says the below about two thirds of the way down:
      McBride: Everyone just says we're a company going out of business, and throwing a Hail Mary pass, but once we get to court, those who say that will look as strange as the Iraqi information minister on TV saying the infidels are defeated and did not get into Baghdad.
  4. Raging geekery by rmarll · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm going to need a scheduling app to keep track of who turn it is to turn our wrath on. Now, I've got Firebird(the DB) mail bombing scheduled for moday mornings, and a random senator on thursdays at noon. But this is 1:30PM wednesday and Sun is scheduled from 1 to 3 for a DNS, followed by a quick annonomous hate mail to Pat Robbertson at 3:30.

    Does someone have an update for the hate list. Apparently I'm behind because I still have IBM scheduled for the first and second tuesday of each month.

    Thanks ahead of time. Rant on.

  5. Who's next? by mahdi13 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Next thing you know SCO will be sueing Microsoft for having a command line interface in their OS...

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    1. Re:Who's next? by DickBreath · · Score: 3, Funny

      Next thing you know SCO will be sueing Microsoft for having a command line interface in their OS...

      Hey, don't give them any ideas.

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      I'll see your senator, and I'll raise you two judges.
  6. From the horse's mouth... by American+AC+in+Paris · · Score: 5, Funny
    I was mulling over the idea of posting some Iraqi Info Minister "Red Hat shall burn!" tripe, but then I stumbled upon this gem in the article:

    McBride: Everyone just says we're a company going out of business, and throwing a Hail Mary pass, but once we get to court, those who say that will look as strange as the Iraqi information minister on TV saying the infidels are defeated and did not get into Baghdad.

    Wow. That's like the Iraqi Information Minister saying that Rummy is going to look as strange as the Iraqi Information Minister when this is all over...or...something.

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    Obliteracy: Words with explosions

    1. Re:From the horse's mouth... by ces · · Score: 2, Funny

      For a moment I there I thought the SCO PR guy WAS the Iraqi Information Minister.

      "God will roast their Linux Penguin stomachs in hell!"

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      Happy Fun Ball is for external use only.
  7. The apocalypse must be emminent... by Bendebecker · · Score: 2, Funny

    For the first time I am actually hoping that a company will get crushed under the iron fist of IBM. Armeggedon cannot be too far off!

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    most of us won't be able to afford it.
    -- Lemmy
    1. Re:The apocalypse must be emminent... by kalidasa · · Score: 2, Funny

      For the first time I am actually hoping that a company will get crushed under the iron fist of IBM. Armeggedon cannot be too far off!

      Must be ... a friend of mine got a call from LL Bean to say they an order from Hades for 20,000,000,000 parkas, and the customer was paying for rush delivery.

  8. Remarkable by thomas.galvin · · Score: 5, Funny

    Remarkable. Most companies would have gone after SuSe to build precident, Red Hat to gain momentum, and then worked out some sort of deal with IBM. That, sadly, is the American way. These guys, though, just walked right up to the 800lb gorilla, punched it in the mouth, and tried to take its bananna.

    This should be amusing.

    1. Re:Remarkable by JLyle · · Score: 5, Funny
      These guys, though, just walked right up to the 800lb gorilla, punched it in the mouth, and tried to take its bananna.
      If you had read the article, you would know that IBM is in fact the 2,000-pound man and not the 800-pound gorilla.
  9. Re:Don't they? by howardjp · · Score: 2, Funny

    I am not going to bother refuting each sentence in here, but except for the part where the parent claims not to be a lawyer, everything in the parent is wrong.

  10. Day of reckoning? by Dr.+Photo · · Score: 4, Funny

    "There will be a day of reckoning for Red Hat and SuSE when this is done."

    Wow. Reminds me of every cardboard villain in every hokey 1980s action cartoon...

    SCO: "You haven't seen the last of us, do-gooders!"

    Thanks for the memories, SCO. We'll miss you after your well-deserved demise...

  11. Boycott!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Only question being: how do you boycott a company
    nobody was buying from anyway?

  12. Somewhere, somehow.. by Future+Linux-Guru · · Score: 4, Funny

    There's a Microsoft connection in here.

    I can feel it. There's a definite disturbance in the Source...

  13. Blacken the sky? by bopo · · Score: 5, Funny

    Blockquoth the article:
    CRN: Have settlement talks begun?
    McBride: The phones are not ringing off the hook. From what I hear, IBM will blacken the Utah sky with lawyers.
    Jeez, does IBM have so many lawyers that they have to catapult them in?
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    1. Re:Blacken the sky? by Selanit · · Score: 2, Funny

      Blockquoth the article:

      CRN: Have settlement talks begun?
      McBride: The phones are not ringing off the hook. From what I hear, IBM will blacken the Utah sky with lawyers.

      Jeez, does IBM have so many lawyers that they have to catapult them in?

      No, it's just that IBM's lawyers are seven-foot-tall black shadows with glowing red eyes and bewinged black steeds. The maleficent, quavering calls of these dark dwimmerlaiks will echo across the low, rolling plains of Utah, and when the wings of their ebon steeds sweep across the gibbous moon, the SCO lawyers will think "Oh, shit!"
  14. Re:But what if they're right? by crazyphilman · · Score: 5, Funny

    That's all well and good, but didn't several pretty significant people involved in Linux development already weigh in on this, and point out that there's no SCO code in their work? Linus included? SCO seems to be just spreading the FUD around. It's smarmy, it's sleazy, and I hope that IBM really whips their asses in court. In fact, if I were an IBM lawyer, I'd start opening countersuits. You know, the U.S. is the land where anyone can sue anyone, at any time, for anything. I'd be suing them for everything under the sun, no matter how thin the claim might be, and suck the life right out of them.

    Think of it as an old Warner Bros cartoon:

    (350-pound lawyer/gorilla): "Oh, you like lawsuits, eh? Well, let me indulge you... MUHAHAHAHA Let 'em have it, Ray!"

    (98-pound milquetoast pipsqueak): "Um... What did you mean by that?" (looks up as a shadow expands around him, then forlornly says,) "Mother..."

    BAM. An entire pallet of legal briefs drops out of the sky and lands on the pipsqueak with a little puff of dust. All that's left is his left hand, with a school ring on it, and his right hand, clutching a little briefcase. A groan is heard from under the pallet...

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    Farewell! It's been a fine buncha years!
  15. Re:Simple solution by FortKnox · · Score: 2, Funny

    You are sadistic!
    I like the way this man thinks!

    ;-)

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    Good quote, too many chars. Seriously, the slashdot 120 char limit sucks!
  16. Re:Dear SCO: FUCK OFF!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    Mod Ghods, please moderate this post up. It's not flamebait, it's insightful.

    Santa Cruz really does suck. It's full of mean people who suck.

  17. Ironic? by carambola5 · · Score: 5, Funny
    Anyone else find this ironic?

    Product and Sales Inquiries
    1-888-GO-LINUX
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    IWARS.
    People, in general, disappoint me. Politicians even more so.
  18. Re:What happens if Microsoft Buys SCO? by doktr+thunder · · Score: 2, Funny

    QUICK mod parent down before billy boy reads this....

  19. Re:Dear SCO: FUCK OFF!! by Thud457 · · Score: 2, Funny
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    the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

  20. Re:With apologies to Rev. Niemoller by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    You messed up. On the first three lines it should read: "... speak up, because I was too busy running 'emerge -u world' to notice."

  21. Re:From the interview: by mendepie · · Score: 3, Funny
    What kind of asshats are running SCO these days?

    Lawyers

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    Are you paranoid if you know that they just want to know everything you say and do?

  22. I think we've heard this before by azcoffeehabit · · Score: 4, Funny

    "There will be a day of reckoning for Red Hat and SuSE when this is done."

    I think I know where the the Iraqi Information Minister is now working.

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    :)(smile)
  23. Worst Metaphors ever by Funk_dat69 · · Score: 3, Funny
    Is it just me or does this guy use some of the worst metaphorsever:


    McBride: ...We're the 200-pound weakling and IBM is the 2,000-pound man.

    2000lb man??


    CRN: Many in the open-source community support IBM's efforts to make Linux succeed.

    McBride: There are a lot of people that don't care about IBM. IBM has been very arrogant in the last few years. They're having their oats.


    CRN: Well, won't it destroy Linux?

    McBride: Not necessarily. We have options to apply our IP to Linux. But if we get no benefit from it, then the dog won't hunt.


    hehe..maybe he metaphored his way to the top! Hmm...maybe I can make it too since the early dog gets the oats!
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    FUNK!
  24. Re:From the interview: by LuxFX · · Score: 2, Funny

    SCO appears to be trying to change their primary source of revenue to be that which they get from lawsuits rather than actually selling services like they used to be doing. I don't know how viable of a business strategy this is

    the RIAA/music labels have already adapted their business strategy to this concept, and it seems to work well for them. hey, if they can squeeze $100 trillion out of those college students (ha!) they don't need to sell any CDs for a looong time.

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  25. Re:But what if they're right? by tomhudson · · Score: 3, Funny
    They're not.

    I wrote them a few months ago when this all started, asking them for specific examples and they don't have any, because there are none.

    It's a slap-suit, and I hope IBM bitch-slaps them back all the way to bearskins and stone knives (now let's see who get's the reference to bearskins and stone knives).

  26. I believe by rosie_bhjp · · Score: 4, Funny

    they are using Rumsfeldian tactics and are now in the "shock and awe" part of the campaign.

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  27. Re:From the interview: by robson · · Score: 3, Funny

    I don't know how viable of a business strategy this is, but even if they were to successfully sue every linux company into bankruptcy (hypothetically) they would eventually run out of people to sue and go bankrupt themselves. It's like a virus that feeds on other living cells until it has no more hosts. Once it runs out of hosts, it must itself die.

    Oh lordy. If suing Linux vendors is their new business plan... okay. Makes sense. Because, as we know, packaging and selling Linux distributions is such a profitable business that SCO is bound to cash in big time with this strategy.

    *snicker* :)

  28. Re:Then who next? by Fear+the+Clam · · Score: 3, Funny

    4. Profit!

  29. Re:Beautiful by Dolly_Llama · · Score: 4, Funny
    Wait wait... deaccelerate? OK i know he meant decelerate but hang with me a second.



    If L is the installed base of Linux, then dL/dt is the net rate of adoption. and if you were to decelerate the adoption, then that would be a negative value of d2L/dt2. But he said de-accelerate which would be a negative value of d3L/dt3, but a positive va....ok I'll go back to sitting in the corner and muttering to myself..

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    Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known. -- Carl Sagan

  30. Thanks for the Image by Esion+Modnar · · Score: 2, Funny
    Jeez, does IBM have so many lawyers that they have to catapult them in?

    To paint the picture of just one of them: arms and legs wrapped around his briefcase, white-knuckled, bug-eyed from terror, suit flapping behind him, waiting for the meaty thud.

    That cartoonist R. Crumb could really do it justice.

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    They say the first thing to go is your penis. Well, it's either that or your brain. I forget which...
  31. Re:Don't they just beg for the Alan Ralsky teratme by Loosewire · · Score: 2, Funny

    All adressed to "Mr Tux" ;-)

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  32. Make GNU software incompatible with SCO by AaronW · · Score: 2, Funny
    Why not fight them the way we can as developers. We can always hasten the downfall of SCO as developers. All we need to do is make sure that some key GNU software refuses to compile or run on SCO.

    For example, we could make autocon, autogen, automake, binutils, gcc, emacs/xemacs, KDE, Gnome, gdb, gnu tar, cpio, ghostscript, gzip, bzip2, and any other essential GNU tools refuse to compile or run on SCO. SCO would then have to go and spend all of their time patching everything to run on their dead platform. Just make certain that any new GNU software does not work with SCO.

    That will get their attention.

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  33. Re:Beautiful by orangesquid · · Score: 4, Funny

    I have $1000 in my hand right here! And Bill Gates is waving goodbye from his helicopter! It's real! I also have a 50% larger penis now too! Thanks, Bill! What a pal!

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  34. Has anyone heard IBM:s comment on this? by Mof-Tan · · Score: 2, Funny

    What's IBM:s view one this whole mess? There must be some kind of official (or inofficial) remark or comment from them on this.

    Are they playing this safe, or unleashing Utah-covering-hoards of lawyers on poor SCO?

    I can't help but feel gleefully expectant of what will happen when IBM makes their move. It's a little like watching those MTV-crazys take a kick in the groin or going down a stairway in a shopping cart.

    Isn't it great to finally have the big gorilla in the right corner!

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    Die dulci fruere. Have a nice day.
  35. SCO will stop terrorism!! by ccbaxter · · Score: 4, Funny

    SCO - Stop Creating Open-source...

    Dude, where's my karma...?
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  36. SCO: Suing Competitors Operation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    SCO: Suing Competitors Operation

  37. Besides... by NoMoreNicksLeft · · Score: 4, Funny

    If there is one thing SCO is known for, its support for massively SMP machines. Why, I once saw this 1024 CPU behemoth... oh wait, that was IRIX on mips. Well, there was this screamer of a system with 64 CPU's that collectively managed a sustained flops somewhere in the trilli... oh wait. That was Solaris on SPARC. Well how about that 128 CPU monstrosity...ooh, nevermind. Tru64 on alpha.

    [thumbs through unix reference for 'SCO']

    Here it is. SCO Unix is known as "the lamest unix implementation on the lamest CPU family in the history of technology, several notches below Minix, which itself was an intentionally incomplete unix implementation meant to teach students OS theory".

    There you have it.

  38. Re:But what if they're right? by Curtman · · Score: 3, Funny

    since this McBride character is a SCO PR guy

    SCO can't afford a PR guy. This is the CEO.
    http://www.sco.com/company/execs/

  39. Re:What happened to SCO Group Lawsuit Q&A? by Ponty · · Score: 3, Funny

    They decided to sue Slashdot, instead. Can't win 'em all.

  40. Doing Open Source without SCO by Alethes · · Score: 1, Funny

    ...is like going to war without France.

    Yeah, flamebait. It's a joke kids.

  41. Re:Beautiful by Joey7F · · Score: 1, Funny

    But he said de-accelerate which would be a negative value of d3L/dt3, but a positive va....ok I'll go back to sitting in the corner and muttering to myself..

    What a jerk...

    --Joey

  42. Re:Beautiful by Dausha · · Score: 5, Funny

    May I quote a stable space opera move Star Wars?

    "Not a bad bit of [lawsuiting], huh? You know, sometimes I even amaze myself." [HAN]

    "That doesn't sound too hard. Besides, [Microsoft] let us go. It's the only explanation for the ease of our [lawsuit]." [LEAH]

    "Easy... you call that easy?"

    "They're [buying us off to sue Open Source later]!"

    "Not SCO, sister."

    So, before you think that successfully suing Microsoft is proof against future alliance with Microsoft against Open Source, remember Yoda's words:

    A [Hacker]'s strength flows from the [Source]. But beware of the dark side. [Fear . . . Uncertainty . . . Doubt]. The dark side of the [Source] are they. Easily they flow, quick to join you in a fight. If once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny, consume you it will, as it did [Altair]'s apprentice." [YODA]

    "Gates. Is the dark side stronger?" [LUKE]

    "No...no...no. Quicker, easier, more seductive."

    "But how am I to know the [Open Source] from the bad?

    "You will know. When you are calm, at peace. Passive. A [Hacker] uses the [Source] for knowledge and defense, never for attack."

    "But tell me why I can't . . ."

    "(interrupting) No, no, there is no why. Nothing more will I teach you today. Clear your mind of questions. Mmm. Mmmmmm."

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