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One-Thumb Keyboard

pagercam2 writes "As Japanese teens are so used to typing one another messages on their cellphones, they are now more comfortable with one thumb typing than the old two handed QWERTY. So a Japanese company has come out with a one-thumb keypad that allows a user to enter alphanumberic text and control the mouse with only one thumb. Sort of a cross between a TV remote and a phone keypad, with a USB connection, although wireless seems to be an obvious next step. Maybe not a revolution for the desktop, but this could advance data input on handhelds." Pictures transcend language barriers.

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  1. Heh by Exiler · · Score: 5, Funny

    [insert one handed typing joke here]

    Only in japan...

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    1. Re:Heh by blurfus · · Score: 2, Funny
      I would have had the FP but I don't type fast with my thumbs...

      This is harder than it seems, I made a LOT of mistakes on my first try. This is my original typed message:

      i Wolud have fad the FO but i don't type fsad with my tuhmbs


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  2. Well.. by Brainboy · · Score: 3, Funny

    It'll make porn surfing a lot easier.

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    1. Re:Well.. by G3ckoG33k · · Score: 3, Funny

      Hope they make both left and right handed models. People may have different preferences.

  3. Oh God. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Now those shortened abbreviations for everyday common words is going to become more widespread. 2 L8 - U WILL B ASSIM8D!

    1. Re:Oh God. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Please, save me from the horrors of being assimated!

  4. Nice... by justMichael · · Score: 5, Funny

    alphanumberic

    And this is the type of output you get when you only type with your thumbs.

    1. Re:Nice... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Great, the new disability will be carpalthumbal.

      Thankyou, I'll be here all week.

    2. Re:Nice... by Blondie-Wan · · Score: 4, Funny
      So that's the secret of Slashdot spelling. I guess there are even more early adopters of tech here than I thought.

      ;)

    3. Re:Nice... by outsider007 · · Score: 4, Funny

      So that's the secret of Slashdot spelling...
      slashdot should be so lucky as to have editors with opposable thumbs.

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    4. Re:Nice... by nite_warrior · · Score: 3, Funny

      you also get things like

      keiboard

      or is that just engrish?

    5. Re:Nice... by BJH · · Score: 2, Informative

      Boy, where to start with a post like that...

      1) There's around 50,000 Chinese characters used in the Japanese language. Of those, around 2000 are used regularly.

      2) Entering Japanese requires only that you type in the phonetic reading. You can then convert that (wholly or in part) to a mixture of Kanji (the Chinese characters), hiragana (the standard Japanese phonetic 'alphabet') and katakana (which is almost exactly equivalent to hiragana, but is usually used for writing terms imported from foreign languages and for emphasis, among other things).

      3) A Japanese typist can do a lot more than 10wpm. Shit, a schoolgirl on her mobile phone can do more than that one-handed (there was a survey recently conducted by a Japanese university professor that showed that young people who regularly use a mobile phone for mail can type at up to half the speed of a person using a full keyboard).

    6. Re:Nice... by NisJ�rgensen · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'll oppose the thumbs of anyone, anytime ...

  5. bad joke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    so if a user types "my nose" in AIM, they've thumbed their nose at you? :]

  6. Japanese buy anything... by dtldl · · Score: 5, Funny

    as long as it has a usb connection, I'm sure I've seen a usb powered coffee warmer and I'm pretty sure I didn't dream up that usb ladies pleasure accesorry.

    1. Re:Japanese buy anything... by jfedor · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well...

      -jfedor

    2. Re:Japanese buy anything... by r00zky · · Score: 2, Funny

      Hi, welcome to Slashdot

      You must be new here, right?

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  7. Medical Applications by Merlin_1102 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I wounder if they have considered marketing this to the handicaps.. I know a few people who have lost a hand or two in one way or another and they have often found it difficult to use a regular reybaord.. I known one guy who simply won't use a computer now and one other who simply uses a mouse with a on screen keyboard.. not as quick, but he says its more conformatable.

    1. Re:Medical Applications by aridhol · · Score: 5, Informative
      For those who have lost a single hand, there's always the one-handed Dvorak keyboard.

      For those who have lost both hands, I think we need to look at new technology...

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    2. Re:Medical Applications by Thud457 · · Score: 4, Funny
      I know a guy that lost a whole bag of hands one time. Ears, too!

      Needless to say, the warehouse was less than pleased with him.

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  8. Evolution by Hayzeus · · Score: 5, Funny

    Over the next few hundred millenia, expect the fingers and left thumb to wither and disappear, while the right thumb advances in dexterity, utlimately develops it's own intelligence, detaches from the human "host", and finally becomes the dominant species on the planet.

    1. Re:Evolution by EMH_Mark3 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Next on Fox, 'Planet of the Thumbs'

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  9. It has to be said... by AvantLegion · · Score: 3, Funny
    Kawaii!!

  10. Why limit usage to one's thumb? by macshune · · Score: 2, Funny

    Males, anyhow, can use another appendage that is at least mildly opposable with this keyboard. This would allow your hands to remain free to, say, conduct an orchestra or do pull-ups....all while chatting with your friends!!! Incredible!!!

    1. Re:Why limit usage to one's thumb? by bedurndurn · · Score: 3, Funny

      If your wang is prehensile, I suggest you go see a doctor immediately.

    2. Re:Why limit usage to one's thumb? by Tablizer · · Score: 2, Funny

      If your wang is prehensile, I suggest you go see a doctor immediately.

      Or porno talent agencies

  11. The Fonze by vitalitychernobyl · · Score: 2, Funny

    says, "Aaaaaayyyyy"

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  12. Also featured in Wired this month by Das+Kamikaze · · Score: 2, Informative

    Although they didn't say much more about it...

    Wired blurb

  13. So what... by Dark+Paladin · · Score: 3, Funny

    So what do I do with my other hand when I'm surfing the Internet?

    Oh - wait. Um, nevermind.

    1. Re:So what... by eggz128 · · Score: 2, Funny

      ...Use the mouse?

  14. Ouch by gregbaker · · Score: 2, Funny
    The page hasn't even finished loading and I think I have RSI already.

    Seriously... that can't be good for your hands.

  15. Typing speed? by GoatEnigma · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I wonder how proficient anyone could ever get on this thing. It clearly is not a solution for desktop, but it seems doubtful as a handheld replacement either. Typing speed is the major problem with handhelds these days anyway - Graffitti for Palm lets me do about 15 wpm and that's after 3 years of practice.

    I would bet on voice recognition or blackberry-style data input for handhelds before I bet on thumb-only input.

    [aside]It kind of reminds me of those old Colecovision controllers....[/aside]

    1. Re:Typing speed? by dhovis · · Score: 2, Informative
      Graffitti for Palm lets me do about 15 wpm and that's after 3 years of practice.

      There are other options out there. One is the fitaly keyboard, which is supposed to be optimized for use with a stylus. They claim you can get 50 wpm. I've never tried it, but it certainly looks easier than Graffitti to me. Anybody out there tried it?

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    2. Re:Typing speed? by Elwood+P+Dowd · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Japanese makes just as much sense with 10 buttons as it does on a qwerty keyboard. Some Japanese cell phone users can get up to 200 wpm in SMS messages (supposedly). I always thought they used two thumbs simultaneously, but I don't know for sure.

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  16. Pictures? by American+AC+in+Paris · · Score: 2, Funny
    Pictures transcend language barriers.

    ...and one slashdotting is worth a thousand "AAAAAAGH! MY SERVER!"'s...

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  17. Uh-huh by PinkStainlessTail · · Score: 2, Funny

    And this will coincidentally be available at ThinkGeek when?

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  18. Missing option... by nother_nix_hacker · · Score: 2, Funny

    but I don't have a thumb you insensitive clod!... oh hold on..

  19. Thumb dexterity by ikewillis · · Score: 4, Interesting

    British university researchers, after studying hundreds of children in Beijing, Tokyo and other big cities, say today's youngsters have become the 'thumb generation'.

    By regularly using mobile phones, especially to send text messages and by playing hand-held computer games, a physical mutation had developed in the under-25s, the researchers have found.

    The thumbs of today's electronic-gadget generation of children have become more muscled, more dextrous and often more used than fingers.

    This is because modern youngsters grow up using hand-held gadgets where the devices are cupped in the hand and held firm by fingers, giving thumbs the pivotal role of pushing buttons.

    This has caused a significant physical alteration in the way the digits of the hand are used - with thumbs being given the thumbs-up and an increasingly important role in youngsters' lives.

    The researchers found that gadget-age children were now using their thumbs for tasks such as pointing at things and ringing doorbells - traditionally the job of the forefinger.

    Whereas the forefinger was also previously used to clean an ear opening, mobile-phone using, text-messaging children will instinctively use their thumbs.

    Even when they want to pick their noses, more and more boys and girls are tending to use a thumb, instead of a finger.

    Whereas mothers and fathers would push the buttons on a telephone with their forefinger, many children would use their thumbs instead.

    And when they type a message on the keyboard of a desktop computer, children hit more keys with their thumbs than adults.

    Though most older people use their forefingers to operate remote controls for television sets and video recorders, many children tend to use their thumbs.

    The findings have been revealed by the Cybernetic Culture Research Unit of Warwick University, one of Britain's top research institutions.

    Experts spent six months studying the habits of thousands of children in countries around the world.

    The researchers included youngsters in Beijing and Tokyo in their survey, in order to ensure that their findings were globally relevant, and did not apply to just a couple of countries.

    The experts found that in fact, the trend of children using their thumbs more and more was particularly marked in Japan.

    1. Re:Thumb dexterity by Smartcowboy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Could you please post your source (URL, bibliography, ect)? While I can't say this is totally impossible, it sound, well, a bit exagerated. If this is true, I'm much interrested in the actual paper.

    2. Re:Thumb dexterity by jetkust · · Score: 5, Funny

      Even when they want to pick their noses, more and more boys and girls are tending to use a thumb, instead of a finger.

      This is all cool until they use their thumb to fire a gun and shoot themselves in the face.

    3. Re:Thumb dexterity by Trick · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "..a physical mutation had developed in the under-25s, the researchers have found ... The thumbs of today's electronic-gadget generation of children have become more muscled, more dextrous and often more used than fingers."

      Since when is increasing musculature and dexterity through exercise a "mutation?"

      To most Slahdot readers the concept may be alien, but it's hardly a mutation.

    4. Re:Thumb dexterity by prozac79 · · Score: 2
      The thumbs of today's electronic-gadget generation of children have become more muscled, more dextrous and often more used than fingers.

      Last time I checked, the thumb already was used more often than fingers. The thumb was one of the great feats of human evolution wasn't it? To get a feel for how important the thumb already is, tape your thumb to the palm of your hand and try to do just about any daily activity. I don't think the average person says, "Hey, I will use 8 fingers for this task instead of 10" and the thumb-gadget people think, "You know, this looks like a good task for my thumb". Show me a non-thumb-gadget activity that thumb-gadget people use their thumbs more than other people (say that sentence 10 times fast).

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  20. Re:Where would we be... by osu-neko · · Score: 3, Funny

    Well, if our thumbs were not opposable, I guess we'd just have to do everything they wanted without question...

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  21. Thumb Size an Issue? by kc0dxh · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Has any American sized thumb tried to use these? I don't mean to be crude, but since there is a general hight difference, can't one assume a slight, but in this case important, size difference in thumbs too? I suppose if this were manufactured in the US I could file a discrimination lawsuit.

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  22. how long before . . . by UnknowingFool · · Score: 2, Funny

    we see somebody on the highway writing email with one hand, eating with the other hand, and using their shoulder to hold onto a cell phone and using their feet to steer?

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  23. Re:I don't get it. by TheCrazyFinn · · Score: 3, Informative

    No You don't.

    Kawaii=cute

    Along with Sugoi (Great/Incredible), it's one of the two generic exclamations in anime.

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  24. Oh no! by d3faultus3r · · Score: 2, Funny

    How am I supposed to type ctrl alt del when using Windows now.

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  25. Coming Soon... by jetkust · · Score: 5, Funny

    1.5" monitors. As Japanese teens are so used to reading messages on their cellphones, they are now more comfortable with monitors closer to the size of their cellphone screen which...

  26. not cordless.. by Suppafly · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It would seem like this would go over better if it were cordless, much like a tv remote control. If you look at the pictures, it looks corded, this decreases the utility for me, if I have to be that close to the computer, I might as well use my regular corded keyboard and mouse.

  27. Another, similar project by beatniklew · · Score: 2, Informative

    This site features a goos system for one handed data imput. It makes more sense to me than the pictures from the japanese sight did anyway.

  28. Re:Pictures on site by Elwood+P+Dowd · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Katakana is the equivalent of italics. Sometimes we italicize foreign words in English as well. This practice is simply more codified in the Japanese language: Hors d'oevres are so damn bourgeois. Sometimes katakana or italics are simply used for emphasis. (Any native speakers want to correct me?)

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  29. Not a new thougt by phre4k · · Score: 2, Informative

    Thinkgeek also has a one hand keyboard. Works a bit different though.

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  30. Typing Speed in Perspective by mowph · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Typing speed for "keitai" or ultraportable devices (specifically cell phones) in Japan compares surprisingly well with desktop computing.

    The main reason is that... big surprise here now... most of the typing is done in the Japanese language, and not in English. In order to type in Japanese on a QWERTY or other roman-set board, you must generally hit at least two keys per character. So hitting the same phone button two or three times (on average) to produce a character is actually faster than hunting down two separate keys and pushing them in sequence.

    Furthermore, just typing the characters in doesn't mean that you're finished. You must use the "henkan" (character transformation) system. Japanese has many ways to write the same character -- for example, there are over 40 different characters for "ha". Sounds like a nightmare, but henkan systems analyze the grammatical functions of the surrounding characters to automatically generate the most likely intended output. The user must then manually touch up any discrepancies. (In related news, the henkan system is being blamed for destroying the writing ability of young Japanese people.)

    With this additional overhead, raw keystrokes aren't necessarily the biggest factor in Japanese typing speed. Further, modern keitais make use of auto-completion based on words commonly entered by the user. Reports of speeds over 200 wpm aren't unbelievable when a user can enter many words with only two or three buttons! Incidentally, the average word size in Japanese is two kanji or 4 kana characters.

    There is also Japan's miserable history of IT education to consider. A good friend of mine graduated from a pre-business program at her high school which included certification in computing and word processing. She can barely copy and paste. Most of their certification was on "wa-puro" or big word-processing typewriters. Until about 10 years ago, these were the staple in most offices.

    Most Japanese people in their mid-20s were introduced to their own cell phone before they had even laid hands on a real computer! To many Japanese people, their keitai is their most personal and important posession. It's only to be expected that we should see advancements here affecting other technologies.

    A few other points of interest:

    - Japanese people are at home (and able to use their own PC) less than people in most other countries.

    - Cell phones can be cheaper than using land-line phones or public phones in Japan... especially when everyone else only uses cell phones!

    - Cellular internet, which charges per packet instead of by time, is much more economical for e-mail than dial-up.

    - The disaster that is Japanese urban planning, and continuously changing work and social schedules make cell phones a social necessity.

  31. Old News, It's Called a Vibroplex, Invented 1890s by n9fzx · · Score: 4, Interesting
    One-thumb keying devices have been around for more than a century; the Vibroplex company still sells them to ham radio operators.

    Note that the minimum speed on these puppies is 20 words per minute, and trained ops have hit speeds of over 70 wpm. Sometimes with a ham sandwich in the other fist...

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  32. Meaning of "keiboard" by misterplow · · Score: 2, Informative
    This is not a big deal, but non-Japanese speakers won't appreciate the play on words in the naming of the product.

    KEITAI = portable
    DENWA = telephone

    (most people refer to their "keitai denwa" simply as their "keitai")

    So the word "keiboard" is a mix of "keyboard" in the shape of a "keitai"

    Just a little Japanese trivia for ya.

  33. japanese typing by AndyChrist · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Most japanese people I knew were really slow typists. Consider that they have to slow down every other word or so to select a kanji...I can type about as fast as most japanese in japanese, and I only speak it at about a 3rd grade level. (My speed at everything BUT selecting kanji makes up for it I think)

    Anyhow, I can't imagine something like that catching on with people who regularly type in languages that are easier to type, like english.