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AOL Bridges AIM and ICQ

Checkmate3 writes "Looks like AOL has finally made good on plans to integrate ICQ and AIM... eWeek talks about a new version of ICQ which will allow for users to message across the two networks." I have to agree with the sentiments expressed in the article. I can't remember the last time I used ICQ, or even what my number was.

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  1. Someone's gonna say it... by Alranor · · Score: 5, Informative

    so it might as well be me.


    Use Trillian , it rocks.

    1. Re:Someone's gonna say it... by Jugalator · · Score: 5, Informative

      Not really -- it doesn't support international characters from other IM's correctly, that's said to be due to poor UTF-8 support (which pretty much all other IM's support and use). This bug has been silently ignored by the developers for around a year by now. For example messages received from ICQ Lite has its international characters removed

      This for a commercial software.

      Miranda is both free (as in beer) and open source, and has no problems whatsoever with international characters, while also offering far more plugins than both Trillian and Gaim.

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  2. Jabber by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

    The only IM you need is a Jabber client and you can get on AIM, ICQ, MSN and Yahoo Messenger networks.

    My personal favourite is Psi

  3. Miranda by eddy · · Score: 5, Informative

    I like Miranda better. Miranda just gets everything right. Light-weight by default, and plugins for everything else.

    I couldn't even find the source-code for trillan. Is it available? If not, Miranda wins _hands_ down since it's GPLed.

    Too bad it's Windows only though.

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    1. Re:Miranda by Jugalator · · Score: 2, Informative

      This doesn't really come as a surprise...

      Trillian Pro: Currently 26 plugins
      Miranda: Currently 167 plugins

      Granted, Trillian supports a couple more IM's out of the box, but Miranda do have a large and very active plugin developing community. :-)

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  4. Jabber by wazlaf · · Score: 4, Informative

    I have given up on ICQ/AIM a long time ago. I now use Jabber for all IM needs. Seriously, I recommend it to everyone who is currently using ICQ or AIM. There are transports which can connect you to your previous network so that you don't loose connectivity to your friends.

  5. Or you could go open source... by imtheguru · · Score: 5, Informative

    ... and use Gaim, for Linux and Windows. Has capability to connect to AIM, ICQ, Yahoo, MSN, Jabber, Gadu-Gadu(?) and IRC networks.

    Cheers,

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    1. Re:Or you could go open source... by supercargo · · Score: 2, Informative
      While I agree with a lot of your comment, I think the easy answer for externally powering an OS project is Miranda's strategy: build a solid framework and make it extensible through plugins.

      Most developers (including myself) just don't have the time to get into the guts a program that needs a new feature, but a sensible plugin architecture allows a journeyman contributor to add a small feature without requiring a patch to the core. The Eclipse project is a great example of this, if Miranda (which I just found from the links on this thread) isn't enough for you.

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  6. Great Future, But... by nant · · Score: 2, Informative

    They brought ads to ICQ Lite now as well... Which makes this build of ICQ Lite useless. Back to build #1150 which serves no ads amd is a real Lite version of ICQ.

  7. What's so wrong with ICQ? by Draeven · · Score: 5, Informative

    Personally, I can't stand AIM. I haven't used it in a while, but when I did, It had no automatic logging feature, messages popped up automatically screwing with what I was doing, the Away feature didn't allow you to speak to people and remain in Away mode, the idle detector was an invasion of privacy and personally, I feel the program was bloated.

    Since the ads came, ICQ hasn't been any better.

    The answer? Miranda IM (http://www.miranda-im.org/)

    Comes default with ICQ support, and plugins are available for AIM, Yahoo, Jabber and other such protocols. You can also get plugins to manipulate many of the behaviors of the program. Everything from new message interface windows to ALICE chatbots.

    I don't mean to sound like an advertisement, but I feel Miranda is far superiour to ICQ or AIM's clients, and Trillian for that matter. Trillian != free, thus I cannot afford it. =P

  8. Re:Thank God by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Nice troll. Well not really, and it got marked up to insightful for some reason. Way to go, moderators. Now if you'll all put down the crack pipe and read the following:

    Hey, guess what? You don't have to install ICQ to talk to ICQ users. You could use one of the many Jabber clients available to you, though I don't prefer them myself. Programs such as Trillian and the free, open-source GAIM allow you to simultaneously connect to various different IM networks with relative ease now, and despite not supporting the entire feature set of these networks in the case of GAIM, is certainly preferable to having a client installed per each network.

    There's also the web pager and web chat room (http://wwp.icq.com/#######, where the # signs are for the number of the user you want to contact). Send them a pager message letting them know you want to talk in their web chat, and away you go.

    There's -also- a Java client on the ICQ page (over here), which you can use from just about anywhere if all you want to do is get through to people on ICQ, but the above alternatives are preferable in most cases.

    There's also..oh, hey. You're probably not even reading this anyway, are you troll? You got your cute little jab in, and you've probably moved off to harass some other group. Sorry to have wasted your time with reasonable discussion.

  9. ICQ- what happened? by Traderdot · · Score: 5, Informative
    Seven or eight years ago, everyone I knew used ICQ. Gradually, people shifted to AIM. I still don't know how that happened but at some point AIM reached critical mass and most people I knew dumped ICQ entirely.

    ICQ had more features (able to msg people offline) and AIM was and is relatively featureless. Maybe that's what people like. Just the basics.

    In any case, I use Trillian to log on to all the different services at once. (Jabber is another option).

    For those of you complaining about ICQ bloat, there's ICQ Lite (link is to the alpha version that can communicate with AIM)

    1. Re:ICQ- what happened? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      First of all, this seems to be a country-thing. All my friends/contacts are on ICQ. One or two are on the AIM-network too. AIM doesn't seem to have made any great inroads here in Sweden, but then, I can only speak for myself and the people I hang with.

      Secondly, those who don't like bloat should be running Miranda.

      People who love Trillian but hasn't tried Miranda yet should do so, you might find a new love (unless you're partial for bloat and glitz and non-source availability).

  10. popup messages by slitfinger · · Score: 2, Informative

    The only reason I still use ICQ is because it's one of the few clients that lets you keep messages in the tray and have non-conversation mode messaging. I don't know why anybody would want an instant message popping up and taking the focus from whatever you're doing, or even wasting space on the taskbar. Miranda can do it too but it keeps crashing on me.

  11. This isn't new by rit · · Score: 5, Informative

    You've been "Bridged" for ages.

    ICQ uses the AOL network.

    Type your ICQ # and Password into ANY AIM Client, for example the sidekick which I know works, and connect.

    AIM loads you in, loads all of your buddies, etc.

    If you use GAIM, there is no AIM plugin or ICQ - there's one called AIM/ICQ.

    Same protocol...happend ages ago =)

  12. old news by Faceprint · · Score: 2, Informative

    Their servers have been able to do this for some time. As a result, Gaim has been able to do this for a long time (a couple releases now, at least).

  13. Gaim by TheKingAnt · · Score: 2, Informative

    I would just like to point out that Gaim has supported messaging between ICQ and AIM for a few months now.

    Windows AIM has supported receiving messages from ICQ users since maybe March, but Gaim has been the only ICQ client (I know of) that is able to receive messages from AIM people.

  14. Gadu-Gadu is polish most popular messanger by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    With some 2 million registered users (400.000 of them active on daily basis) it's of course not a rival for AOL or ICQ, but people in Poland love it - it's simple, light, and in polish :-)

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  15. I seek you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    This is ludicrous. ICQ continues to dominate the field in every way (still the most downloaded program ever?..maybe Kazaa has that now). The ONLY feature it lacks is proper dual monitor support (i.e it locks to the outer border of the primary monitor(i would prefer this oversight versus the floating non-dockable aim/msn clients(there is a bug workaround with Ultramon) It has not decreased in functionality since being purchased, seeing as to my knowledge it was the FIRST IM service to make a Java client of its service publicly available(icq2go (can select the use of the http protocol or user selectable port)as well as toned down a version(icqlite) to appeal to all of the clientele it was using because of its complexity. The advanced mode does not really boast all that many functions that arent because of their frivolous nature, once it is configured settings never need to be touched again, wow 3 minutes. Armed with a registry patch or a cracked/icqplus enabled client i am able to enjoy an add free, VERY stable(bet my windows based pc has more uptime than yours) program with more functionality than all of the others put together. The only advancements that are being made that i wish icq would incorporate is the user definable backgrounds/avatars with thumbnail preview option for picture transfers being made available in MSN messenger beta 6 (speaking of which, i have never gotten message in icq stating "IM server maintenance will occur in 5 minutes please finish conversations before you are disconnected, GO M$!). Generally i find that people who are making the switch are in fact the new generation of computer user that cant be bothered with remembering a number instead of a leat nickname. To make a long story short almost EVERY feature available in other clients has an equal or improved function in icq so why make the switch? I personally run 3 clients because i prefer having the functionality that the coders intended me to have whilst using their product, as for trillian the interface is horrid and i am not sure if they still lack online databases support?

    Also
    2 words...invisible mode....why has no one else incorporated this?

  16. Why did you stop using ICQ? by rosewood · · Score: 4, Informative

    Silly rabbits! ICQ > MSN, AOL, YIM

    Why? Logging and Offline messages! I use trillian as my client so I dont have to have multiple programs but I prefer to chat over ICQ over any of the others.

    The ability to send someone a message if they are online is just great. The fact that AIM and MSN can not do this makes these two services quite frankly SUCK.

    Also, last time I checked, icq was the only im client that logged all chats by default.

    If you have an ICQ spam problem, just block messages from people not on your list. I havent gotten an ICQ spam in quite some time.

  17. Re:iChat can now contact ICQ users? by Max+von+H. · · Score: 2, Informative

    You can use Fire for OS X, which works with ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, irc and Jabber. Works OK for me! And it's free!

    Get it from http://fire.sourceforge.net/

    Cheers,
    max

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  18. I got Gaim. by grafikhugh · · Score: 2, Informative

    It has a few problems that I expect will dissapear as it nears 1.0 , but the ability to keep all of your chatts and msgs in a tabbed window is an awsome feature. I also have a spell checker installed to help me with a problem that me and about 95% of slashdot users have. It does all the usual stuff like multi platform communication and everything AOL's aim offers.

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  19. ICQ support SUCKS! by JohnnyGTO · · Score: 2, Informative

    You would think these dorks could change a password and email it to the original account creator.

    I lost 116117 about a year ago with a bogus multi line foriegn character password and I still have yet to get anything but bullsh!t responses from ICQ.

    Need my own Jabber server.....

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  20. Usage of different IMs? by MacGod · · Score: 2, Informative
    I find it interesting that the spread of Instant Messaging usage is so different than what I've personally noticed.

    Maybe it's a Canadian thing, but my experience (and everyone I know seems to be the same has been that the popularity of the messengers goes like this:

    1. ICQ
    2. MSN
    3. All the others. I don't even know a single person who has ever used AIM, Yahoo, Jabber or Gadu-Gadu.

    FWIW, I use Proteus a very well-written Mac client that does ICQ, MSN, Yahoo, Yahoo Japan, AOL IM, AOL IM(Oscar)-whatever that is, Jabber and Gadu-Gadu.

    Yes, it's shareware, and no, it's not GPL'd, but it's still damn good software!

    Does anyone have any sort of stats on regional/national usage of different IMs? Since your IM of choice is largely based on how many of your friends use a given network, it's not totally illogical that it might vary from place to place.

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  21. Customizing ICQ by OgreChow · · Score: 2, Informative

    I am tired of hearing everyone complain about how bloated ICQ is, how they get spammed, etc, so I am providing this simple guide on how to customize ICQ so that it is perfect. First make sure you are in advanced mode and then in Preferences:

    1)Contact List
    a. Options - tuen off everything.
    b. Design - only check Sort Contact List by Name
    c. Shortcuts - set Activate ICQ Messages to something convenient, I use control-alt-z
    d. Colors - who cares ;)
    2) Misc - Only check right-click activation
    3) Status Mode - uncheck all
    4) Connections - personal preference/settings
    5) Alerts and Notifications
    a. General - choose only Blink all types, save message history, and play sounds
    b. Sounds - change the uh-oh ASAP.
    6) Shortcut Bar - get rid of everything except Preferences, Security, and View/Change
    7) skip down to Email Prefs - clear everything out in this section
    8) Old friends - no checks
    9) SMS - if you have it
    10) URL Messages - Clear that out
    11) File Transfer - whatever you like :)

    Security and Privacy:

    This section involves a lot of personal preference. But in here you can set it so that you don't get any of those damned Email messages, phone requests, or anything of the sort. Simply go to the Communications tab and check the left column for those things. You can also set it so that items can only come in from users in your contact list.
    Under the Spam Control section check those bottom two checkboxes - that kills half of your spam right there.

    I hope all of that was helpful to SOMEONE. Peace!