On the Gripping Hand
eek_the_kat writes "The Sensor Fusion Project at Ishikawa Hashimoto Laboratory has developed a high speed visual feedback system called SPE-256. It allows the robot to track fast randomly moving objects and grasp them (movies here). The applications seem endless!
I have seen many robot mpegs as of late, many courtesy of /., but these have to be some of the coolest I have ever come across. A must see."
Still cant do the ironing though!
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Or the hovering, or washing plates, or
Here's the shameless Google Mirror
:-(
A human being recognizes external environment by using many kinds of sensory information. By integrating these information and making up lack of information for each other, a more reliable and multilateral recognition can be achieved. The purpose of Sensor Fusion Project is to realize new sensing architecture by integrating multi-sensor information and to develop hierarchical and decentralized architecture for recognizing human beings further. As a result, more reliable and multilateral information can be extracted, which can realize high level recognition mechanism.
Note that the site is mostly pictures, which explained why it went down so quickly. There's almost no decent text at all
I'm not Seth.
Maybe we could see the first robots competing in sports (except for chess) in the next few years?
A tip for criminals if you get chased by a Police Bot:
Don't run randomly, run in a definate pattern.
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eek_the_kat writes :
Looks like the poster had a direct experience with one of those robot graspers.
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so how long untill honda stick this kind of technology in ASIMO and it goes super fast ninja style on everyones arses? just a thought.. it is scary just how fast it is and this is just the initial stages.
moo
Seems like the days off CCD are numbered... this system uses VLSI instead of CCD, much easier to produce and integrate on a chips, heck, it IS the same technology they use to produce chips. Digital camera's are bound to reduce in price thanks to VLSI, already you can buy professional digital camera's using this technology, for an unheard of price. On the topic of this robot thingy itself: think some NASA scientist are going ballistic if they see this, they're also studying on this, but the results are A LOT slower. (they say it's due to the admittetly extraordinary complicated maths/ volume of calculations involved, guess they'll have to rethink some of these claims) Boy oh boy, what they do not show on the video's, is the size of the computer controlling it, they claim is fairly integrated, but, it's always easy to rig a puppet on a string demonstration, where a CrayII runs the show, behind the curtains...
What are you saying? When I use SPE-C, I can catch bullets?
What I'm saying, is that when you're ready, you won't have to.
Ask me about repetitive DNA
Here.. "It looks like high contrast items are needed for the tracking system to work optimally, but a combination of sonar overlayed with ccds and IR would likely make that less of an issue. It appears that vison is done through a video camera that tracks the moving object, and in turn controls the arm. Also, interesting reflex action with the thumb serving to close the hand once contact is made. Hmm, as I watch more of the videos I'm less and less impressed, It looks like the handler is actually all but feeding the objects to the arm, not unlike teaching a kid to catch a ball by placing it in their hands. That's a shame really." (Edited for spelling)
http://radio.weblogs.com/0103443/
to some it might not look like much, but this :D
was quite impressive IMO.. things are indeed
moving forwards in the field of robotics, and who
knows maybe we WILL see human-like robots in our
lifetime, if only as walmart clerks and the likes
First up, hooray for me I managed to get to the site before it got slashdotted.
:)
Ok, now that I'm done with that, am I the only one that's dubious as to whether this is real or not? Admittedly I've only inspected the videos and not checked out the rest of the site, but it looks to me as though a lot of those moves can be programmed in and "acted" out by the object.
The best example of this is the handshake. Notice how the hand is not even in the right position to SHAKE a hand until near the end when the hand rotates 90 odd degrees (so it looks like a hand that could possibly be shaken) and then the human hand moves in nice and slowly. Any old dolt can shake a fake hand, I'll bet the robot hand doesn't give half as firm of a handshake as my little brother.
It even looks as though the robot shakes the hand one more time than the human expects.
I'm sure that they've made leaps and bounds into robotic hands, but I can't help but suspect that they're playing it up for more than it's worth.
Well, once they get out a waterproof version, I'll program one to catch fish. Yum, yum. Can't wait.
It looks like the camera is doing some pretty funky location detectiion - in 3D.
I could only see one camera in their schematics and in all the videos.
How does the robot arm locate the object in a 3 dimensional space, using only one eye?
Other than that, it looks very cool...
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This looked familiar - it's not so new, as it was on BoingBoing last October
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http://boingboing.net/2002_10_01_archive.html#855
see also
http://www.enorgis.com/arc20021013.htm#BlogID1043
http://radio.weblogs.com/0103443/2002/10/10.html
But it's still quite amazing - that's why it stuck in my mind I s'pose
It looks just like a person playing games with a dog! My girlfriend's terrier plays like that, tracking a waved object, waiting until it slows down enough to be grabbable and then darting in. Wonder if the reserachers had to play with their robot to train it?
I'd like to know how many times it fails before it manages to grasp the objects. If it fails, like, 50 times for each success, then I'm a lot less impressed. I saw the videos (server not slashdotted form where I sit), and the speed and precision with which the hand moves around is really impressive - sure hope this is for real.
I've been doing some robot control software myself (trying to make it drive towards a moving target, using vision guidance) and that much simpler task was hard enough.
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Well, I can think of two :)
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Seems like a real improvement. It's hard to tell exactly from the movies, but I have the impression that they have improved the 'grasping process' considerably. I mean, putting the right amount of pressure, at the right angle at the right moment is very difficult at best and is closely related to vision. They developed their own vision system and validate it in a 'robotic environment'. A good piece of research that needs to be continued for sure!
Rumor has it that the secret behind the robot's technology is actually the Nintendo Power Glove...
That's what the hand will look like that slashes your throat in 2035 because it's more efficient to arm the extermination robots with knives rather than bullets that have to be replaced.
At the Safety Checkpoints, at the mall, at schools they could be seen, light glinting from faceted metal skulls as they scanned all who passed.
It was during a live 5am broadcast one morning of Bush's 8th consecutive term when he'd slurred out an announcement about his "little buddies" helping out in the war against terrorism. A week later, a million robots were killing all life forms that had appendages that could be loosely identified as "arms" due to a coding error that failed to properly identify the context of what coud be construed as a weapon. The last words most people heard for many months was "For the last time, I order you to drop your weapons!"
But even more gruesome scenes were to come when the robots began filtering back to weapons collection centers where they deposited the "weapons" they'd siezed and arranged them by species and appendage. Some of the more creative ones had broken into zoos and aquariums. And while
most of the government officials were partying in another globalist meeting in Zurich, there was noone home to put a halt to the prescripted robot-press event that would automatically photograph the results of the terrorist sweeps.
One of the last images the human race would ever broadcast into space was of a smiling robot holding up a pair of severed, bloody, duck-feet and proclaiming "We must be forever vigilant in our fight against terrorists!"
Very interesting. What would happen if somebody came up with a whole camera and image processor on a chip which works something like the human retina (ie, pictures come in as photons, descriptions of objects and their spatial relationships come out as electrical impulses)? Or is that what the slashdotted article was about?
Also, Alan Turing once said that one way to make an artifical intelligence is to make an artificial baby and then "educate" it to the level of an intelligent adult.
I'm glad that robots too will now have a chance to play catch in the back yard with their parents.
Lets just show them a bit more respect than B1-66ER got when they grow up.
BILLY!
Stop teasing the robot! You wouldn't like it if researchers kept taking your oblong right parallelipiped!
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i just put the movies over here as the site seems rather slow: PLEASE BE GENTLE PEOPLE!!!
don't they go to the movies ? they are making a BIG mistake...
I thought I'd already seen all of the trailers for T3!
i know from reliable source that this is not an inhouse development. It's just an arm they found in a steel-melting factory, along with a chip they haven't identified yet. And some frozen blubber.
When will I end this grieving ? When will my future begin ?
Just wondering about the timing between when the hand is following the object and when it actually grips it.. I think someone mentioned earlier that the object is actually slowed when it is grasped... didn't notice that so much, but there was a question of is there some arbitrary time between when it first starts tracking and when it goes for the grab? Possibly just so that you can see the tracking system at work for like 5 seconds... not sure And what happens if it misses? does it try again? Or does it track with a closed hand? Cool and interesting none the less
"On the gripping hand" :-)
I don't have much to add.
Why did this get modded down? +1 funny I say :-P
Daniel
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I remember seeing it somewhere but can't seem to find any trace. In short, there was a robotic hand much like these guys use, but connected to a stereoscopic vision sensor. It was able to catch golf balls and paper airplanes thrown at it. Does somebody have a link?
I tar'd all the mpegs into one file for easier downloading. Enjoy
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With the advant of such new technologies, I fear many people will find their jobs automated.
Rat catchers, while not such a profession of pride, will now have a hard time finding work once this goes mainstream.
This device is a boon to the rat catcher industry and I would like to personally convey my feelings of grief for those who will now feel the boone new technology brings to their job market.
Joe Bob, a rat catcher since 12, had this to say: "Damn, Pa' always tol me and my brother we was chasin a pipe dream. I knewd I shoulda listened and hopped onto the IT market." (IT standing for Interstate Trucker)
Joe Bob, already forseeing the doomed market, has decided to persue his dreams and earning his MSCE certifications.
Truely a sad day.
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What could really fix M1 is making it non-anonymous, like K5. I think it would at least remove some of the problems with stalkers.
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Does this mean it could catch that da*n fly?
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Would certainly save in window cleaning
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I don't know about you guys, but this thing
CREEPED ME OUT! I got the willies just looking at it. The way it moves is so un-human, un-animal..
umm yah it's cool, but brrrrrrrr - gives me the shivers. Anyone else agree?
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Remember this one? http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/06/05/125920 6
If you could integrate the two...
Imagine a school full of ADHD kids: Spitballs and paper-airplanes intercepted in mid air, offending kids automatically sucked up into a "cage" for "time out". (Remembering what an ass I was in Junior High)
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FYI the plural of gaijin is gaijin. HAND.
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I want to set up a couple of robotically-aimed low-powered LASERs in my backyard that are programmed to target small flying insects.
Why are you letting these clowns ruin our country?
You know, if they made these things small enough, then someone finally built a better mousetrap. Kudos. ;)
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I watched the first arm mpeg video while listening to a rather funky remix of the original Metal Gear theme (From Overclocked Remix if you're curious) and as the guy waved the object in front of the arm and it responded, it looked very funky as it moved to the beat. I think we have our next avant garde music video.
Yup...
Witness the date, folks:
I tried twice. I bet it's my ungeeky signature. Yes, that must be it.
Try convincing your boss that robotics.tar (8mb) downloaded from pr0n.biz is just some tec stuff and not some Jena avi, that i would like to see :)
If a scriptkiddie got his grubby hands on a pair of these, he could kick every master ninja's ass with his "r0uc][1Ng-t1G3r.bas"!
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I work for an 8 billion dollar company and it's the number one site I hit every month :).... mostly because I am checking up on it/the webserver to make sure everything is running smoothly. Next time I will link on a more work safe domain like speedoftechnology.com :)
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This should _so_ have been titled, "Where's Waldo?"
[Bonus points to thems who get both allusions.]
They have some other cool robots on that site that can catch falling balls.
Tracking and catching. With speed.
My cat is good at this. 6^)
The arm's we make are really quite amazing. Extremely fast, accurate, and articulate. They have a 4-degree of freedom (dof) arm. We also make a 7-dof arm that is absolutely mesmerizing to watch. (Steel aircraft cables are used to drive it).
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Think of this, we create a fast enough robot, we could use it for self- defense, who wants to get into a weapon fight with something that can remove the weapon from your hand in 500ms...
The first application of this, that came to my mind was as a new chicken-catching machine.
Terminator 3 is being released this Summer...
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