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SCO Announces Final Termination of IBM's Licence
ickle_matt writes "SCO have announced the final termination of IBM's UNIX license, despite Novell telling them they can't. Interestingly enough there's a new set of "stolen code" figures in the release - 'approximately 148 files of direct Sequent UNIX code to the Linux 2.4 and 2.5 kernels, containing 168,276 lines of code. This Sequent code is critical NUMA and RCU multi-processor code previously lacking in Linux. Sequent-IBM has also contributed significant UNIX-based development methods to Linux in addition to the direct lines of code specified above.' "
Ahhhh.....I can dream, can't I?
Just release the infringing code lines so we can comment it out, doom your profits, and get on with our lives!
Incidentally, they claim 2.5 kernels too... is that new? I thought only 2.4 was an issue.
I assert that my comment is only my opinion, not that of any employer, past, present or future.
DUMP
No more Micro$oft bashing from me. Its like bashing at the special olympics.
I've just revoked SCO's licence to use their own code. And I hereby revoke the right of anyone to tell me I can't do that.
I'd rather see IBM send in the attack lawyers in the black limos (their version of the black helicopters)...
That would be like shooting fish in a barrel with a cannon...
and well worth a video copy; would put it right next to my Rocky and Bullwinkle cartoons...
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gimme a break. SCO, WHY WON'T YOU DIE???
: noogie
Sequent's code belongs to IBM! Hello? McBride?
"You can't get something for nothing." - my grandfather, on the stock market and Reaganomics.
Why is a "News for Nerds" site only covering this now?
/. been over the past weeks?
Where has
2 dashes and a space, or just 2 dashes?
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But their main site is running... wait for it.... Linux! http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph/?host=sco.com Lookms like they changed to linux between March and August last year from.........SCO UNIX.
Think, McBride. If I checked in my NUMA code under your copyright, I'd get sued. You wouldn't want that to happen, would you? ... Would you!?
Look, your stock's down. :poke: Ha hah, don't be so gullible, McBride.
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It's Wednesday. Time for the SCO Press Release. Just like tomorrow's Thursday. Time for the latest Microsoft Windows Update patch. Anyone surprised by this "next ridiculous statement"? I'm not...
Date: 8/13/2003
Re: SCO termination of UNIX license
To be read aloud in high pitched whiney voice
Ooooohhhh. I'm so scared.
-B
Helps millions of customer!!! Yeah by serving legal notices. I think they are spending more time reading linux code than they are fixing any of their own code.
Can you ping me now?... Good!
IBM has announced today that it has terminated SCO's right to existance. A tomb stone has been made that says "R.I.P. SCO, You ungrateful bastards." and has a holographic penguin to the top of the inscription that continiously pisses on the letters S-C-O.
SCO has recently announced their new corporate logo, and policy for dealing with IP piracy.
http://windows.scares.us
By development methods, do they mean "use of the vi editor"?
I can't help but wonder how much influence Slashdot might have on SCO stock price.
Like if Slashdot were to "accidentally" publish a story like "SCO Insider Reveals Code Copied From Linux to UnixWare!' - how much would the stock drop?
Makes one think... not that I'd suggest anybody actually TRY this.
DG
Want to learn about race cars? Read my Book
I would like to be there when IBM's legal department gets notification of the double secret termination. There should be wondrous laghter.
SCO announces IBM now under double-secret probation.
Proverbs 21:19
> By development methods, do they mean "use of the vi editor"?
No way. SCO isn't 1337 enough to use vi. They are, however, evil enough to use EMACS.
--Kevin
SCO announced late yesterday evening that all companies running Linux were dangerous felons and that SCO was in the process of filing criminal complaints against members of the board of directors for those corporations.
Darl McBride, reached by satellite phone offshore on his recently-purchased yacht, told reporters that the whole affair,
Asked to comment about SCO executives recent selling of SCO shares, McBride made staticky noises with his mouth and said:"Provided by the management for your protection."
In other news, SCO unveils their latest threats (found this editorial on HardOCP).
Over-the-top? Yes...
printf("\nstuff");
and
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Tm
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IBM: or what...you'll release the dogs, or the bees, or the dogs with bees in their mouth, and when they bark they shoot bees at you?
Maybe they're using RIAA-math? They might mean that one file is typically 50 lines, so any file with say 2000 lines counts as "the equivalent of 40 files"
(for those who don't get it, see here)
Belief is the currency of delusion.
Ah, but SCO paid their own liscensing fee so that's okay in their book.
When will they announce the final, final Termination?
When they have no more stock do dump?
Best. Comment. Ever. Enjoy!
It bothers me when phrases are used in mixed languages like "Mexican restaurante" instead of "Restaurante Mexicano".
Conserve Oil, Recycle, Boycott Walmart
Cyprinus carpio.
Carpe cyprinus carpio.
But maybe this time it's even more appropriate. :)
SCOX (Lola) Song
Enjoy...
(To the tune of "Lola" by The Kinks)
I met them in a club down in Santa Cruz
where you code in C and it looks just like
the Linux kernel... K-E-R-N Kernel
They walked up to me and asked me to desist
I asked them their name and in a cowardly voice they said,
"SCOX"... S-C-O-X SCOX, sco sco sco sco-X
Well I'm not the world's most intelligent guy
But when they showed me the code I almost cried
Oh my SCOX, sco sco sco sco-X
Well I'm not dumb but I can't understand
How they stay in business with blood on their hands
Oh my SCOX, sco sco sco sco-X
Well they filed their claims and sued all night,
thanks to Microsoft's failing might
They picked me up and sat me on their knees
Saying, "Linux coder won't you turn and flee?"
Well I'm not the world's most logical guy
And when I looked at the comments
I almost fell for their bullshit
bull bull bull bull-shit
sco sco sco sco sco-X
I laughed them away. I walked to the court.
I filed a countersuit. They'll be down on their knees.
Now that IBM is looking out for me
And that's the way that I want it to be
They'll clean them out and make them pay
Oh my SCOX, sco sco sco sco-X
Linux will be UNIX, and UNIX will be Linux
It's a scratched-out, messed-up, crazy diagram
thanks to SCOX. sco sco sco sco-X
Well I posted to LKML just a week before
saying I never ever leaked code before
SCOX smiled and said "We understand,"
saying, "Linux coder, you can do what you can"
Well I'm not the world's most open source guy
but I know Richard Stallman and I bet that they'll fry
oh my SCOX, sco sco sco sco sco-X
sco sco sco sco-X
To stick it to SCO, avoid the Yahoo Finance Mirror and go straight to the SCO press release:
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http://ir.sco.com/ReleaseDetail.cfm?ReleaseID=115
SCO-None shall compile.
IBM-What?
SCO-None shall compile.
IBM-I have no quarrel with you, brave SCO, but I must distribute UNIX.
SCO-Then you shall be sued.
IBM-I command you to stand aside.
SCO-I move for no corporation.
IBM-So be it!
IBM draws his sword and approaches the SCO. A furious fight now starts lasting about fifteen seconds at which point IBM delivers a mighty blow which completely severs the SCO's left
arm at the shoulder. IBM steps back triumphantly.
IBM-Now stand aside worthy adversary.
SCO-(glancing at his shoulder)
'Tis but a scratch.
IBM-A scratch? Your arm's off.
SCO-No, it isn't.
IBM-(pointing to the arm on ground)
Well, what's that then?
SCO-I've had worse.
IBM-You're a liar.
SCO-Come on you pansy!
Another ten seconds furious fighting till IBM chops the SCO's other arm off, also at the shoulder. The arm plus sword, lies on the ground.
IBM-Victory is mine.
(sinking to his knees)
I thank thee O Lord that in thy...
SCO-Come on then.
IBM-What?
He kicks IBM hard on the side of the helmet. IBM gets up still holding his sword. The SCO comes after him kicking.
IBM-You are indeed brave SCO, but the fight is mine.
SCO-Had enough?
IBM-You stupid bastard. You haven't got any arms left.
SCO-Course I have.
IBM-Look!
SCO-What! Just a flesh wound.
(kicks IBM)
IBM-Stop that.
SCO-(kicking him)
Had enough?
IBM-I'll have your leg.
He is kicked.
IBM-Right!
The SCO kicks him again and IBM chops his leg off. The SCO keeps his balance with difficulty.
SCO-I'll do you for that.
IBM-You'll what... ?
SCO-Come Here.
IBM-What are you going to do. bleed on me?
SCO-I'm invincible!
IBM-You're a loony.
SCO-SCO always triumphs. Have at you!
IBM takes his last leg off. The SCO's body lands upright.
SCO-All right, we'll call it a draw.
If Slashdot were chemistry it would look like this:Cadaverine
#include "fud.h"
#include "enron.h"
void SCO_keep_alive()
{
while(!inCourt()){
try{
generateFUD();
extortLicensesFromLinuxUsers();
}
catch(ImpendingIBMSuit suit)
{
int numShares = MAX_INT;
dumpStock(numShares);
terminateLicense("IBM");
}
}
fileChapter(11);
}
I hearby would like to license the development method of drinking much caffinated beverages... staying up way to late on a debug session and remaining paste white year round.
Take THAT!
--Turvey
I had a flame... but she had a fire.
No, it only applies to "use of the Emacs editor".
There arises from a bad and unapt formation of words a wonderful obstruction to the mind. (Francis Bacon)
dont you just hate viral licences like that ;)
The war with islam is a war on the beast
The war on terror is a war for peace
> No, it only applies to "use of the Emacs editor".
Don't you mean the GNU Emacs editor?
Do daemons dream of electric sleep()?
It just goes to show that whether it's object-oriented programming or contract law, multiple inheritance is likely to be hard to understand.
it's absolutely terrible to see what IBM did to the Sequent culture
Buy them suits?
The unofficial
Unix development methods:
printf( "Got here!/n" );
--- I wish I could hear the soundtrack to my life. That way I'd know when to duck.
That sentence should be taken out back and shot.
Mr. McBride, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
Looks like we might have a chance to see the first Slashdotted conference call.
I've finally figured out what this SCO debacle reminds me of: a game of Calvinball.
Contract disputes are legal play, except on Reverse Days or while standing in the Invisible Box. SCO attacks Linux users with FUD, and Novell makes them sing the Sorry Song. But SCO claims Novell was in the Reciprocity Zone, so it has to sing the song instead.
SCO says it owns IBMs code because IBM crossed the Hidden Contract line, but IBM claims today was negative day and now it wants everything that SCO owns.
The score is now 12 to Q, and I eagerly await the next round.
Ah, who am I kidding. This is slashdot.
There is a reason for everything. Sometimes that reason just sucks.
Rocky the Squirrel: Again?
McBride: This time for sure!
Rocky: But that one never works! McBride: Nothing up my sleeve, and.. PRESTO! (pulls out a copy of Debian)
Rocky: And now here's something we hope you'll really like!
Bullwinkle: (carries a clue-by-four with IBM written all over it, beats McBride)
This sig no verb.
Your lisence is up when I count to three. One. Two. Two and a half. Two and three quarters. Two and seven eighths . . .
A panhandler announced the termination of a passersby's right to wear pants in public when the man refused to pay him a $1 'pants tax'.
Sorry, UnixWare and OpenServer failed because they "suck". Sorry, I can't come up with a better adjective for their current line up. Poor scalability, waaaaaay over priced, heck, it makes Microsoft look charietable with their license pricing and they have next to no ISV and IHV support. No wonder SCO is dying. Hear, hear! I remember my first Linux installation... I got a set of Slackware CDs from the MIS, a sort of joke gift he thought. I retired to my lab and immediately scavenged some hardware to give it a shot. Gods! I was impressed. After a few hours poking around here and there my first considered reaction was: 'This thing is a UNIX-killer.' At the time I was an SE/FE in an SCO-shop, back in the 3.2r4.2 days... In every way, even then (late '93 or early '94, there was snow, that's about all I remember...) that Slackware box was a breath of fresh air. The supported hardware was good, covering a reasonable cross section of common to high end parts 'n' peripherals, certainly more extensive than SCO. And the hits kept coming, networking included, at no added cost, several compilers, also at no added cost. A mind-boggling array of software, almost too much. Within a week I had that little puppy, built out of spare parts humming along-side the production servers. That box eventually housed the company's first permanent internet connection, and matured into their first proxy/firewall. Over the years I've used many Linux distributions, and have had the unfortunate responsibility of assessing follow offerings from SCO. Each and every time I would select another distro and compare the two. Consistently I found myself disappointed with the SCO offerings. Now, almost ten years later, there are still a few SCO machines around, clustered in a little corner of the server closet, under the Caldera VSP certificate and stuffed Tux holding a sign which reads: ABANDON HOPE, ALL YE WHO LOG ON HERE!
"Talk minus action equals nothing" - Joey Shithead, D.O.A.
"Talk minus action equals
How can the culture be considered anything other than a failure if it lead to the failure of the business?
Naturally, this doesn't mean IBM is in on it, but it does support the idea that SCO was just using this ruse for free money. Clearly they're using their stock price to get stuff for free.
Perhaps that is the goal: You realize your company is worth $100 (example, easy math). You convince everyone it is worth more, say $1000. You take the $900 in extra stock you just issued, and buy $900 worth of real companies. In the end, your company is theoretically worth $1900, until you lose your lawsuit, at which time it is back to worth $900 purely because of the assets you purchased. Now, the key is to sell when it is as close to $1900 as possible, but anything between $900 and $1900 is worth your time, especially if you don't really own the stock, just the options, thus not costing you anything. You CAN get rich doing this, but it involves one extra step.
This is the critical part: You have to start writing your new book WHILE you are in prison, not after you get out. This works out pretty well because you will have lots of free time in between sodomy sessions. The good thing is you don't have to pretend your innocent anymore, those books don't sell anyway. Instead, write about how you learned from the experience, and how its really "the systems" fault, because it was so easy to do. So, instantly, even though YOU did it, you can blame the system, sell some book, probably get a great consulting gig or go on a speaking tour, and you will probably only have to spend 3 to 5 years actually in jail.
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