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Computer Expectations of Today, and a Decade Hence?

Luciq asks: "The other day I was cleaning out my closet and started reminiscing about all the good times I had with my 33Mhz 486DX. I got the machine 10 years ago just as the first Pentiums were coming out. With a 33Mhz processor, 212MB hard drive and a whopping 8MB of RAM, I could surf the net at 2400 baud, manipulate photos and even play games with full-screen video like The Seventh Guest. Today I use an Athlon XP 2400, 80GB HD, 512MB [not 512K!] RAM. While I can do some neat things with it, I must say that it's fallen short of the wonderous expectations I had for such a system in 1993 (no immersive VR?, no seamless voice recognition?). What expectations did you have for today's PC, 10 years ago and how does the reality match up? What do you expect from computing, 10 years from now?"

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  1. In 10 Years there will be by dirtydiaper · · Score: 4, Funny

    Every home will be eqquiped with a computer that contains SUPER PORN.. The files will have "Touch Abilities." Geek nation wide will contibute to this open source project to customize there own porn star..

    1. Re:In 10 Years there will be by s20451 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Geek nation wide will contibute to this open source project to customize there own porn star

      Didn't they already do that? In 1985, even, with an 8088 or something?

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    2. Re:In 10 Years there will be by Requiem · · Score: 3, Funny

      In Soviet Russia, supermodels jerk off to you?

    3. Re:In 10 Years there will be by crazyphilman · · Score: 5, Funny

      Oh, brother... I can see it now, my fellow programmers will come up with the following selection of delectables:

      1. Russian Hacker model: She's six feet tall, very thin, black hair, ice-blue eyes, can kick your ass but chooses not to. Wears tight black jeans, a skintight black Linux T-shirt, and a leather jacket (with chains that jingle!). Dirty mind, friendly, but if you make a programming error, she ties you to a chair and mocks you, muttering, "Dahlink, RTFM". Hackable, with a XXX porno mode.

      2. Japanese anime model 1 (techie chick): About five feet tall, thin, long black hair, green eyes, modernish hip clothes and weird cat ears. Randomly gets annoyed, produces a 1,000 pound hammer, and pulverizes you. Has no nipples or gonads. Warning to the orally fixated: she has little razor-sharp cat teeth which appear when she's feeling mischevious.

      3. Japanese anime model 2 (Hentai model!): Like model 1, but instead of cat ears, teeth, etc, she has a schoolgirl uniform, nipples and gonads. Randomly "accidentally" opens a gate into hell, allowing huge perverted demons into this universe, which subsequently violate her "against her will". Beware: some owners have gotten a little too close to the action, resulting in, well, you know. The lawsuits have been settled.

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    4. Re:In 10 Years there will be by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      In Soviet Russia jokes start YOU

    5. Re:In 10 Years there will be by usotsuki · · Score: 3, Informative

      The original appears to be "...television watches you", an obvious 1984 reference.

      -uso.

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    6. Re:In 10 Years there will be by de+Selby · · Score: 3, Informative

      According to:
      http://www.medterms.com/

      The male gonad is the testicle (or testis), located behind the penis in a pouch of skin (the scrotum).

      The female gonad, the ovary or "egg sac", is one of a pair of reproductive glands in women.

  2. See! by themassiah · · Score: 5, Funny

    Today I use an Athlon XP 2400, 80GB HD, 512K RAM.

    Even after 10 years, 640K is *STILL* enough for anybody!

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  3. i expect perfection by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    i expect everything work right,
    and not be asked for a damn windows patch by all my friends every 5 freakin minutes

    1. Re:i expect perfection by rudiger · · Score: 4, Funny

      then get a mac ^_^

    2. Re:i expect perfection by Rysc · · Score: 4, Funny

      That doesn't stop em asking, it just makes it more annoying.

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  4. End of the BSOD by StarOwl · · Score: 5, Funny
    10 years ago, I wished for an end to the Blue Screens of Death.

    I got my wish. I installed linux. :)

    1. Re:End of the BSOD by lightcycle · · Score: 3, Funny

      One of the savers in xscreensaver mimicks errormessages from less fortunate oses, among others the BSOD. I have xscreensaver set for random saver, and even though I have been running linux exclusively for a year, and dual booted way longer than that, I still give a start whenever I walk in the room and there's a bsod on the screen. Guess my earlier Windows usage has scarred me for life.

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  5. My expectation? by stonecypher · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A stable, secure, low-cruft OS.

    Maybe in the next ten years.

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    1. Re:My expectation? by killthiskid · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Real expectations:

      • I guess hardware is better. Wait is gone for the most part. That is good.
      • Software that works. Office is a good example of bad things. Why the hell do features that worked in an earlier version of office get broken in later editions. I would think software would evolve in such a way that stuff gets better, not stuff added on and and the old stuff worse.
      • Better GUI... obviously. I've used KDE, Knome, Win2000 (like Win98), and WinXP... XP still messes me up everytime. Why did they change the start menu. I know, go and change the scheme.
      • Connectivity. 'tis getting better. Google is good. P2P is good. Email is ok. IM is good. Video phone anyone?
      • Related to tech: telecommunications. fucking joke. With lots dark fiber out there, phone services should be a dirt cheap commindity. land lines are a joke. Everyone, please get broadband, if you can, and dump your landline. The baby bells need to suffer.
      • Music and Video on demand. There is no good technical reason that I shouldn't be able to purchase and instantly listen to any audio or video thing ever created. Big media blows, I hope they bankrupt with the telecoms.
      • Input devices. The mouse is good. The scroll wheel is better. Gestures are good. What's next... we need help!
      • Monitors/other output devices. 300dpi? We're waiting. Transparent paper like screens? We're waiting!
      • Backups. Consumer level PC need a VERY GOOD inexpensive method of backing up stuff... I'm talking the whole hard drive in a manner of minutes. Cheap. Often.

      There, you asked.

    2. Re:My expectation? by killthiskid · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Oh yeah, add a decent protable long lasting, easily rechargable power source to my list... something like a fuel-cell that can be recharged with butane or gas... whatever, as long as it is light, long lasting, and easily refilled... and prefereably doesn't explode or kill people at will.

    3. Re:My expectation? by bailster · · Score: 3, Interesting

      My wish list to add to the above list of realistic expectations. Surely these are also within reach:

      --It all has to come in a shockproof, G force resistant, waterproof watch. In the early 1980s, I saw a $2000 wristwatch in a store window with had a little black and white TV on the watch face. My dad said, "Son, in 10 years we'll all have these -- and they'll be in COLOR." The liar!

      --OK, I would settle for a watch or an earpiece (of course the thing should also run on voice) and a bluetooth link to a pocket-sized Palm or Ipod or whatever basestation with a few hundred terabytes of storage. (Moore's law says no problem)

      --If you wear glasses, one or both lenses should be able to double as a (bluetoothed) vid screen -- like in the New Order video!

      --All your personal info, ever, has to be in there -- and continually backed up, automatically -- both a personal copy somewhere and one stored by subscription in a converted NORAD vault. (Because the next wave of international terrorism could be against data storage facilities.)

      --You shouldn't need a wallet anymore. The thing should have some kind of secure, anonymous e-cash feature. It should also work as a substitute for your credit, debit, etc. cards. This kind of technology already exists but isn't fully exploited. (http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=74281&cid=666 3027)

      --It has to function as a driver's license, car key, passport (http://www.immigration.gov/graphics/howdoi/inspas s.htm), health insurance token, etc., if you want it to.

      --Notwithstanding the above and the pandora's box of privacy issues, it needs a TOTALLY ANONYMOUS mode. Which means Microsoft has to be nowhere near its development. And no DRM either! (If this isn't implemented properly, we will all have to wear tinfoil hats.)

      --GPS would be nice but then you'll have to increase the size to act as an antenna. Could your bloodstream function as an antenna?

      --Traveling internationally should mean not having to lug around giant black cubes to convert the power. Can this thing be motion-powered? Is solar power ever going anywhere? Cosmic ray catcher-powered? Human powered? (http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/08/ 04/2224201&mode=thread&tid=126&tid=134 )

      Sadly, however, SCO has patents on all of the above...

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  6. Games gotten better? by calebtucker · · Score: 5, Interesting

    10 years ago I expected some truly breath-taking an immersive 3D games with excellent gameplay for the present. However, I often times find that today's games are simply breath-taking in a graphical sense but really lack in the gameplay. Am I just spoiled or does anyone else feel this way? Maybe it's just that I'm remembering my childhood playing those side scroller games for hours.

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    1. Re:Games gotten better? by garett_spencley · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I disagree with the common case that "all games today are eye candy and the real innovation was in the 80's etc."

      Of course, there are games that are manufacturered purely to capitalize on a market. Such as games based on movies and tv shows (who wants to be a millionaire rings a bell). However, there are games out there that are breath-taking in an eye candy sense and also in a game sense.

      For example, Quake III Arena might be remembered for it's graphics but it also brought multi player internet gaming to a whole new level.

      Half life may be a similar concept but it has really brought game hacking and modifications forward. Maybe not truely novel concepts (quakeI had internet play and ID was allowing users to hack their games for a while) but they really created their own cult followings and people play those games for hours just as people played the paralax scrolling games of the late 80's early 90's for hours too.

      What about GTA and the ever so popular vice city? I think vice city is probably THE perfect game (for me anyway). It combines so many different types of games into one: role playing, fighting, racing, mission based, shoot-em-up, business etc. Plus it brings you into this whole virtual culture and world where every detail from the people on the side walks to the radio stations are considered. Making it more of an interactive movie that sucks you in and keeps you there.

      How about The Sims? Another novel concept. My wife still plays that game for hours at a time. She's got her own little neighbourhood kicking where she can control everything and build up her characters etc. What do you call that kind of game? Role playing? Simulation? I'm not so sure. I definitely don't remember any games in the 80's and early 90's having a game concept like that.

      The fact is that gaming is just like any other business. The people who are there to capitalize on it want to market proven products that aren't so risk based. So you do get a lot of games comming out that just seem to be the same as last month's big eye candy. You see this in movies and music and television too. But don't neglect the games that do bring new concepts forward. They're there, you just have to notice them.

      - Garett

    2. Re:Games gotten better? by HBI · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Not a single first (or third person) fantasy game has beaten Ultima Underworld, from 1991 I think.

      I must've spent the entire weekend one week, no sleep, playing that damn thing. Nothing today can compare. Baldur's Gate, D2, all fun. But not anywhere near the same quality of gameplay.

      D2 is like a graphical mud. Hack, slash, gain experience. The only thing it lacks is a socialization element. BG 1 and 2 are nice games but sheesh, they have very little replay value - it's just tedium. I break out the editor if I want to experiment.

      I never had to do that with UW.

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  7. I YAM THE VOICE OF THAA COMP-YEEWWW-TURR! by Ab0rtRetryFail · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I expect (hope?) that text-to-speech will start sounding natural in 10 years. I'm sick and tired of the bland TTS that still sounds like it did in the '70s. Here's hoping. :)

  8. short list by john_smith_45678 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    - OLED displays that are like paper (thin and flexible)
    - fuel cell batteries that provide power for quite a bit longer
    - 64 bit computing (arriving now - wonder what the next step would be - 128 bit?)
    - Windows to require 30 terabytes of disk space

    I hope somebody invents a better mouse (or whatever it might be called) ;).

    I also wonder if we'll still be using hard disks ten years from now.

  9. Where's the fun? by menasius · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I wont make what seems to be the required 512K joke, come on people you never had a typo?

    But I will say that my expectations for computer hardware at this point was pretty much exceeded. The fact that I now have about 10 times as much Ram as my first computers had harddrive space I am impressed. However, since you mentioned games within the post I'll reply that my expectation for how FUN games would be at this time was sorely underachieved.

    Unfortunately, the pixel pushing hogs that are modern computers have left game design to rely on the next brightest nicest looking graphical engine with most games being "unique" like all others on the market.

    It's not the technology I feel let down about, its the basic design for games which for the most part has not advance nor drastically changed in 10 years really.

    -Bort

  10. input devices by QEDog · · Score: 4, Insightful

    10 years ago I thought about how a computer was still like a keyboard with a TV (and a mouse). I expected better input technologies. Why do I have to move the mouse pointer with my hand? Why can't I guide it with my eyes, just looking around the screen and moving the pointer? Why are input devices so far behind anything else?

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    1. Re:input devices by Transient0 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Various eye and head tracking mice exist (check out this page for alternative mouse devices). They are used extensively by the disabled community, particularly by people with mobility impairments. The reason they haven't caught on more in the mainstream is primarily that using your head or eyes to control a pointer is a lot less convenient than most people think. First off, your hands are actually more precise and dextrous, secondly, you have several fingers which allows for a variety of clicking and scrolling type motions. With a head mouse, you have to dwell the pointer for a period of time in order to click (sure, there are external switches you can use, but that defeats your purpose of not having to use your hands). Also, because eye movements are often instinctive and because we also use our eyes to identify and read content on the screen, it can be difficult to control the mouse and unwanted selections are frustatingly common without long practise. I think the mouse is here to stay in one form or another (until VR style gloves become common or hand motions in open air are detected by lasers).

      It is the keyboard we are for more likely to find ourselves disposing of as voice recognition gets rapidly better and better. Of course, I highly doubt that we will actually get rid of it either as many people find that they think better with the keys than with their voice and because so many programs, including games, have learned to take such advantage of the tremendous variety of input the keyboard offers.

  11. Yikes... by mraymer · · Score: 3, Funny

    This article is only a few minutes old and everyone is flaming poor Liciq for saying KB instead of MB. C'mon now, let's grant him a full Slashdot pardon. I mean, it's not like his mixing of MB and KB crashed a Mars lander or something, like NASA's mixing of metric/US measurements did. ;)

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  12. cool stuff for computerz to do by victorvodka · · Score: 3, Insightful

    1. Be really small and run on almost no power. (Screw 70 Watt processors, gimme something i can implant!) 2. Automatically negotiate ad hoc networks with passersby, immediately establishing whether or not they are similar or dissimilar to you based on MP3 collections, web bookmarks, etc. 3. Thereby facilitating a new form of social selection in humans, whereby our computers automatically figure out whether we are meant to fall in love, be friends, etc.

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  13. Now and Then by spector30 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Today I expect a PC that can play 3D games without hiccuping, display complex text and graphics and manipulate them in real-time, allow me to surf the 'Net at speeds that make my old 14.4 modem pale in comparison. I also, unfortunately, expect a system that is much less stable than what I had ten years ago. I expect the systems of today to require an enormous heat sink and a fan with an alarm and auto-shutdown on overheat function. I never needed this with my older systems.

    In the next ten years I expect that the heat issue may still be around, but that the solutions will be quiet and won't require near-constant maintenance. I expect that there will be true 3D displays, along with OSes that utilize all that goes along with them. The "personal" in PC may go the way of Dodo with all the connected world has brought us. Although most of us will certainly have, need, or require local storage of some sort, it will most likely do little or no processing of it's own. I hope that I will have the choice to disconnect at the end of the day, but am not sure this will be so as the government and big business seems to need to know every little thing we do.

    My biggest expectation for the future is that I will be surprised. That there will be something I want or need my system to do that I can't even imagine today.

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  14. What's a computer? by Un+pobre+guey · · Score: 4, Insightful
    You won't see your computer. You will have a reflective-surface tablet on which you interact graphically. It is in wireless contact with storage and other bulk that are hidden in a box that is itself hidden in a closet or in some out of the way corner. In addition to the tablet, you will have a variety of other everyday objects that are also in contact with the box, each reporting your use, gestures, speech, or what have you to the main box. Some of these devices will produce sounds, vibrations, or have graphic displays on their surfaces to help you do whatever you are doing with them.

    Life will start looking more like it did in the middle of the last century, as computers disappear from sight and banal old devices start containing little bits of a massively distributed system.

    I won't miss sitting at a keyboard and staring fixedly at a monitor, that's for sure.

  15. A Funny Fortune... by oGMo · · Score: 5, Interesting

    A decade ago or so, I saw this fortune:

    Imagine that Cray computer decides to make a personal computer. It has a 150 MHz processor, 200 megabytes of RAM, 1500 megabytes of disk storage, a screen resolution of 4096 x 4096 pixels, relies entirely on voice recognition for input, fits in your shirt pocket and costs $200-$300. What's the first question that the computer community asks? "Is it PC compatible?"

    It was funny at the time. Those specs were ridiculous!

    Today I've got a 200MHz+ Zaurus with 64MB of RAM builtin, plus about 512MB worth of CF cards. And you can get 1-2GB CF microdrives. And it costs about $300.

    It's like "Unix! I know this!" line from Jurassic Park... reality caught up, and it's not funny anymore. :-( ;-)

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  16. In my experience and my (not so humble) opinion... by JessLeah · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...90% of hardware improvements are essentially wasted by programmer inefficiency.

    Look at those amazing 4K demos that people did (and stll do) for DOS. People are doing wild stuff here-- things like real-time pseudo-3D rendering, fractals, you name it-- all inside of 4 kilobytes of code. And most of these demos will run just as well on a '286 or (at most) '386 than today's space-heater chips.

    Contiki is a lovely example of what can be done with efficient coding. In my experience, this sort of efficiency is NEVER achieved today in "commercial" projects or even in OSS/FS code-- people never even come close. The only areas of computing which have seen significant improvements (I don't just mean "more widgets" or "better interfaces" (the latter has nothing to do with hardware improvements, so don't even mention it)) in recent years have been:

    * Gaming (perhaps the only area where efficiency is even SOMEWHAT appreciated, as it leads to higher FPS)
    * Rendering (ditto)
    * Real-time scientific simulations

    In 1980, I could flip on an Apple II and have a usable prompt inside of a second or two. Nowadays, even with a screamin' P4 or Duron will get you a 30-second startup time-- if you're lucky. That's just to boot up the OS. Wanna start a word processor? That'll take even longer.

    If you want to get a sense of what MY expectations were that were shattered, go grab a good Apple II emulator and some appropriate software and fire the emulator up. Make sure that it's running at the full possible speed-- not "compatible" speed (which is 1.02MHz, if I remember correctly). Look at how fast stuff runs... and that's in emulation. Sure, there's no fancy GUI, there's no clippy, whatever you think "modern" OSes have to have... but the point is that even in emulation, old stuff runs REALLY, REALLY FAST. If the same mentality of "efficiency is everything" that was necessary during the days of limited hardware power was voluntarily adopted today... well... imagine Windows XP starting up in one second (and not crashing). Imagine being able to swap cool new games on floppy disks. Imagine most games being distributed on Mini CDs, even those with lots of videos and speech, since a full (650-700MB) CD would be overkill for them.

    Then wake up and realize it's time to go buy some more RAM again... ho hum...BillG just raised the bar on hardware requirements. Back to the treadmill we go...

  17. When I were a lad... by mccalli · · Score: 4, Interesting
    My dream system used to consist of a Commodore 64, a colour monitor and two (yes, count 'em, two) floppy disk drives. 1541's to be precise. Oh, and an acoustic coupler too.

    That's what I believed the future could hold for me at the time. Now I'm typing from a gorgeous little Powerbook with built-in DVD writer, which is wirelessly remote desktop-connected to an XP-based 2.4Ghz PC with a DVD rewriter in it, 1 Gig of RAM and a 120Gig hard drive. That's not even considered a top-end system anymore. Peripherals I connect include a firewire video cameras, bluetooth phone, a scanner, an iPod which stores more than supercomputers used to at the time of my C64 dream...all very nice toys. The above systems also have a broadband link out to the internet. Given all the above, I have to say that personal computing (small 'p', small 'c') has surpassed my expectations by a long, long way.

    Oh, and the C64? I have the system I wanted, leaving aside the acoustic coupler. Of course, it's an emulated system. I carry it around installed on my phone...

    Cheers,
    Ian

  18. Turbo Button by cioxx · · Score: 5, Funny

    It needs to make a comeback. I have a 2.4ghz box sitting under my desk, but would be delighted if Intel made a commitment to bring back the turbo button.

    Push it, and you have successfully doubled the speed to 4.8ghz. That's the kind of innovation computer industry needs. Forget complicated overclocking.

  19. PC technology is game-driven? by maliabu · · Score: 5, Insightful

    from my experience, computer technology is mostly driven by computer games.

    anyone can still type up a letter using an old computer. science/research are adapting to what's currently available, rather than creating the needs, but i might be wrong.

    on the other hand, not many game developers are still writing games for the current computers, instead, manufacturers are trying to come out with something so that their consumers can finally play GTA3 smoothly.

    so a question to answer your question - what do you expect to see in computer games in the future.

  20. In 10 years by Dark+Lord+Seth · · Score: 4, Funny

    ... we might NOT have to read about SCO 3+ times a day on Slashdot.

    Hey, one can dream, right? That and I'd like to see those diamond semiconducters with solid state nanostorage. That and Duke Nukem Forever.

  21. What I hoped for by gobulin · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I got my first computer when I went to college (1995). I shelled out a ton for it, too. $3000 for a Pentium 133, 32MB RAM, you know the story...
    I sit here, typing code on a 2400+ XP, 512Mb RAM and you know, the saddest part is that I'm still the slowest component of the computer. Sure, code compiles faster, but that's only a few moments compared to the hours I spend hitting keys.
    It seems that hardware is just keeping up with the software that keeps bogging it down. Sure, my windows desktop is a '32-bit' blue rather than that sad '256 colors' blue. It's still the default color.
    I wished that we had truly-emmersive 3D desktops. The kind where you can stack desktops on top of each other and you could control the mouse in 3 dimensions.
    I wished that messages from the computer would be synthesized in a super-sexy voice. I wanted a holographic (Max Headroom-ish) interface that I could talk to. I wanted hot-swappable PCI devices.
    I remember voice-recognition was just on the verge of becoming commonplace. I think it still is. Perhaps a vapor-ware award is in order...

  22. Re:In my experience and my (not so humble) opinion by JessLeah · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Here is my pre-emptive response to all of the pro-status-quo zealots (yes, the most annoying sort of all, contrary to a recent poll).

    Let's say you had a time machine. (Let's say it was built out of a DeLorean, just for fun's sakes.)

    So you fire up your DMC chariot, head back to 1965, and pick up some computer scientists.

    You then take them back to the present and start showing them things.

    After they get past the whole "You elected RONALD REAGAN President!?" bit, they'll probably faint dead away when you tell them about modern computers. "WHAT? The system REQUIRES 64MB of memory to boot!!!??? And 128MB is recommended!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?" At this point, they would probably punch you in the face, and tell you how much of a failure the modern computer world is (by virtue of being the most prodigious waste of perfectly good supercomputing hardware conceivable... short of using all the world's hardware to render an animated video of Britney Spears's assets bouncing... using a renderer written in BASIC, of course.)

  23. 10 years brought a lot of changes by FunWithHeadlines · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I'm writing this on a Apple Powerbook 1 GHz laptop with an amazing 17" widescreen, a drive that can read and write DVDs, Bluetooth built in that let's me automatically sync to my Sony Ericsson phone, an iSight video cam that let's me do full-screen, real time video calls with my work mates across the country, and the whole thing is an inch-thick and easily fits into a standard backpack or briefcase.

    ARE YOU KIDDING ME? I would have KILLED for this system ten years ago. Correction, I wouldn't have imagined this much power, speed, and functionality in such a tiny, yet solid system. Ten years ago I was using a big clunky desktop PC, with a 14-inch CRT monitor, Windows 3-something, Prodigy dial-up to get to a kludgy graphical system where you could read about six lines of text on the screen and the amount of information was very limited, everything was wired together to form a basic ethernet network with lots of hoops to jump through to get it to work seamlessly. I think we had available for the entire department some $5K Toshiba laptop that was also clunky, and heavy, and ran the same lame OS with the same lame limitations.

    Now I'm using this aluminum wonder to wireless connect to my broadband, always-on, super fast connection, while watching TV in the living room, a Terminal window open to let me do command line stuff in BSD, while using a super fun, super smooth OS X system that makes Windows 3 look like a torture device.

    Speed, power, slickness, functionalty...you couldn't pay me to go back to what I was using ten years ago. Personally I can't wait to see what I'll be using ten years from now. Gripe all you want, but I think things have gotten waaaaaaaaay better in the last ten years.

  24. In Ten Years... by sfe_software · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Given that:
    While I can do some neat things with it, I must say that it's fallen short of the wonderous expectations I had for such a system in 1993...

    always seems to be the case, my expectations for 2013 are as follows:

    - Computers will be much, much faster
    - Operating systems will be much, much more bloated
    - Our demands will have gone up
    - Mozilla will have become sentient, and will be its own project maintainer

    And the end result will be roughly the same. Except that last part, that will be new.

    Alpha-blending at the OS-level will be not just standard equipment, but nearly required. Games will be more beautiful, but will come on 3 DVDs and take 3 or 4 minutes to load up, giving about 30-50 FPS on a "fast" machine. (Seriously, load up UT2K3 on a "fast" machine, it looks nice but is very slow...)

    The video card will be about the size of the motherboard, and will require more cooling than the CPU. Audio cards will come with fans (if that sounds weird, what if I told you, in 1993, about fans on video cards, water-cooling, or heat-spreaders on RAM modules? Case-mods, LED-fans, ...)

    We'll keep hearing about how magnetic media is coming to an end, reaching the end of Moore's law, even while Maxtor is releasing 4.5 TB disk drives, and Seagate (among others) announces a new standard to replace the SATA that we'll have all become quite familiar with.

    ... in other words, nothing will change, except that we'll then take certain CPU-intensive tasks for granted, much as today compared to 1993. But just like encoding/ripping/sharing MP3s was very labor-intensive in 1993, such is the case with video now, and we'll see that whole cycle again with video via DivX...

    Video capture/tuner cards will be standard equipment (like audio today), and maybe -- just maybe -- by then we'll have some kind of industry standard on digital broadcast (cable/sattelite). Eh, probably not...

    IMO anyway.
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  25. Re:In my experience and my (not so humble) opinion by Requiem · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Writing very complex software means that you can't write it in Assembly and hope to be done in the next 10 years. Sorry to burst your bubble.

  26. Re:In my experience and my (not so humble) opinion by turm · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...90% of hardware improvements are essentially wasted by programmer inefficiency.

    While this may be true, it's largely done on purpose.

    Professional programmers are in the business of making tradeoffs: time versus space, speed of execution versus speed of development, etc.

    While it's true that a crack team of assembly programmers could probably rewrite the whole of MS Office for optimum performance, chances are:

    1) It would take them years.
    2) Users would hardly notice a difference ("Wow, the about box comes up in 100 ms instead of 500!")
    3) The code would be impossible to maintain.

    Nowadays, professional programmers who are working on performance-critial software tend to write first and optimize second (after they profile the code to determine where 'hotspots' are).

    Just look at 'write-once-run-anyware' languages like Java or .Net. Byte code/virtual machines eliminate the need to port our application 50 times, but in trade we give up a whole bunch of speed. If speed doesn't matter, it's all upside.

  27. Yes, but. by achurch · · Score: 4, Interesting

    While I'm in full agreement that today's programs are much fatter than those of 10 or 20 years ago, and I'll bravely resist the temptation to point fingers at Microsoft, I should point out that larger, slower programs are not necessarily a bad thing. Yes, you could get a prompt in a couple of seconds on an Apple II, Atari 400 (my personal favorite), or whatnot, but you couldn't run multiple programs at once, do filesystem operations with a mouse, etc. It takes more resources to accomplish more things, and technology hasn't necessarily been keeping up with that curve. (Though granted, there is far too much gratuitous bloat around--a minimal Linux system I keep on hand can boot in 2 seconds on a machine that takes 40 seconds to get through the BIOS startup...)

    The other thing that should be done with the current level of technology, and regrettably rarely is done, is adding robustness. Array bounds checking, input sanity checking, the works. Except in very specialized cases, we have more than enough CPU power around to actually check all these things and still get done what needs to be done in a reasonable amount of time (as in, less than the user will notice). Instead of assuming that a function's inputs will be within range, check that they are in range, and take some sort of error action if not, rather than blowing away random areas of memory or the like. I get frustrated every time I see people saying "extra checks are inefficient and a waste of resources" (though admittedly I was of the same mind until recently). What else are you going to do with all those spare cycles? Twiddle your thumbs?

  28. I never had high expectations . . by bedouin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    10 years ago I was fiddling with autoexec.bat and config.sys files so I could play some game I just bought from Babbage's. Using your computer as an entrainment device, aside from gaming never went beyond some .mod or .wav file, and short video clips -- usually as filler in some "multimedia' game.

    Things have gotten bigger, but not necessarily better. Now instead of well-thought out games, there's a ton of 3d animation and filler. Instead of the fun conversations on IRC and BBS's, there's spam filled usenet and E-Mail.

    Ease of use hasn't drastically occurred -- because face it, nerds (who develop software) always turned their noses up at "the easy way" of doing things. Which is why the kids with Macs and Amigas got made fun of. The real thing the nerds were hating in the GUI was the inability to get under the hood.

    10 years ago I couldn't have imagined downloading full music files and movies so easily, or creating your own with a few hundred dollars worth of equipment. Even getting your own home network going is insanely cheap nowadays.

    I don't know about everyone else, but I'm pretty happy with how things have gone. What I didn't anticipate was how much Microsoft would totally dominate, and ruin computing. If I could have seen that then, maybe I would have bought a Mac in 1993, not another PC. Apple has flaws, but I just can't see them contaminating the Internet the same way Windows users and Microsoft has.

    I'm happy to see the open source movement making waves, and 10 years ago I wouldn't have imagined a free OS could provide so many options. Nowadays your average cable modem provides the kind of bandwidth many universities had . . . I never would've imagined that 10 years ago.

    Of course, the things I was doing in 1993 (using IRC to chat, looking at web pages, sending E-Mails), I'm still doing now. Except, with IE's non-compliance to standards and Windows viruses, it's actually worse than it was 10 years ago.

    Saying all that, I love what Linux and BSDs offer for free alternatives -- a few of my computers are running Linux right now. As far as being completely satisfied though, OS X is exactly what I wanted in a computer 10 years ago. It's easy enough to deal with, stable, and I can get tinker with UNIX whenever I need to. I really became disinterested in computers from 95-98 or so; OS X is what made me buy a few programming books and get back into things though.

    What sucks in 2003 is Microsoft and people not following standards on the web. DRM applies here too. A lot of really great things have happened in 10 years, what's held them back is MS dominance.

  29. Re:In my experience and my (not so humble) opinion by toddestan · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think they would be rather amazed at the power of the computers themselves. Show them that we can store 2 trillion bits of data on something thats about the size of a paperback book. Oh yeah, and it only costs about $200 too. However, they may not be so impressed when they discover we use it mostly to store vast quantities of bad music, bad movies, and porn. Oh well.

    Or the processors that run at 2 billion cycles per second that cost less than $100. It would blow them away.

    You can tell them, "Sure, the thing won't boot with less than 64MB of memory, but who cares when that much memory costs $15?" Oh course they will probably say that's our problem - what incentive do we have to elimate bloat when it's so much cheaper to throw more hardware at a problem?

    BTW, be sure to tell them to put all their money into the stock of a small company named "Microsoft" in the early 1980's, and that around 1999 you'll be expecting a nice check in the mail.

  30. my wishlist by gribbly · · Score: 4, Insightful
    • instant on
    • stateless - just pick up where I left off any time, instantly
    • totally responsive. I *never* wait while computer crunches, trying to draw windows, etc. And I mean *never*. Things that take time just take time without affecting anything else.
    • bug free - things work they way they should, always, no exceptions. A computer should compute as reliably as a housebrick is a housebrick.
    • intuitive - I'm gonna have a hard time explaining this one, but basically I end up in a lot of situations where I feel like the computer should have common sense. Like if I just saved 5 .mp3s in a row to the same place, it should "just know" where to save the sixth. That's not a good explanation... what I mean is the computer should know what I want to do and help me do it. Believe me, I know what you're thinking - all those "smart" wizards and "helpful" guesses that some apps make ("It looks like you're trying to write a letter...") are horrible. True. So I guess I mean take the intention behind those features, and now implement it properly so it's transparent, predictable, and more of a help than a hinderance.

    grib.
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  31. Future tech/apps/social by wadiwood · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Ten years ago: I thought some of the titanic applications I was working on would be re-written in nice spagetti-free code that would be easy to maintain and reliable. I was wrong. The code that was there in the 1960's is still there, code today is often like the ultimate junk yard. I thought that eventually everyone would develop code with some degree of planning, coding and testing and maybe "code gardening" where you go weeding and clean up some of the mess. This would produce code that was reliable and easy to maintain blah blah. I thought that governments might be educated to introduce legislation with some understanding of the coding changes required to implement it. We were constantly fighting to get stuff implemented with stupid deadlines. Nobody said "this piece of legislation will take 4 years to implement and cost 1/4 of your annual budget, annually". And they'd pass it with a 3 month deadline or even better "retrospectively" and wonder why nobody ever enforced it. I thought games would get more interesting and easier to play. Wrong. I thought there would be more puzzle based games that didn't require reliable finger twitching to play. There probably are these but I haven't noticed. I thought that the fax-photocopier-printer would be cheaper. I thought that TV's, stereos, and vcr type things would be better integrated. I never thought I'd have a mobile phone, though I frequently wanted one. They still don't work on the lonely highways where you would need one most. I never thought I wouldn't be able to live without email. Actually I'm fine without email out in the desert without email but other things back home fall apart. Ten years from now: I can see a good deal of chaos. How will we filter the information overload, the truth we want to hear from everyone's opinion. I guess Slashdot moderation systems is a start. I'd really like to see real reporting instead of media baron/political brownnosing reporting. I'd like a spam filter that fries the source computer, or at least locates the sender and sends the appropriate info to the cops. I'd like to see companies that insist on inconvenient and expensive activation systems go belly up (broke). I want a home security system with a couple of motion activated cameras that send the photos off site. You can steal my vcr but the pictures are not there. Then the system can alert my neighbour. The one with the rotweillers. I'd like to be able to read stuff on paper or something that didn't involve refresh rates. I'd like a home blood tester that lets me know if I've got something serious that needs treating. I'd still like some privacy but I'm not sure if I will have it. What will cameras everywhere do? Will we all be living "big brother tv game"? I'd like some piece of technology that helps me get a bit of focus instead of distracting me with lots of new ideas and concepts that need to be explored. I'd like to be able to surf the web (what ever that may be) with no wait time. I'd like to have a huge LCD or projection screen with whatever visual art/film/game/novel I like. Hook that up to stereo and have a tropical fish aquarium visual and mood music for dinner parties. I still want my friends to come round. And somehow backup and restore will be redundant or painless.

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  32. Hardware gets better, softeware gets worse by dj961 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Although hardware speeds have increased a 100 fold software has not kept up with it, instead software has become bloated and slow. Windows still takes a minute or longer to load, applications still crash and overall realibilty still has not improved.

  33. Moore's PC by nick_davison · · Score: 5, Funny

    Roughly butchering Moore's law:

    10 years / 18 months ~= 6.666
    2^6.666~=60

    So, as a rough rule of thumb, expect things to be about 50-60 times as powerful as they are today:

    Given my 2GHz, 1Gb ram, 128mb video ram, 100Gb hard drive system today, a kind of typical PC, I should be running, by then:

    120 GHz, 60 Gb ram, 7.5Gb video ram and a 6 terrabyte hard drive.

    However, the following will also be true:

    1) Windows 2013 will still be as slow as hell (probably clogging that fast 120 GHz processor with all of the things it securely prevents me from doing).

    2) My wife will have finally killed me for all the money I've spent, especially as I swore that last year's 80Ghz processor would see me through for a couple of years.

    3) According to Nick's newly coined law - every eighteen months my PC will give off roughly double the heat energy - I have just single handedly caused the ice caps to melt.

  34. Step into the time machine... by zsazsa · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What expectations did you have for today's PC, 10 years ago and how does the reality match up?

    Why not step into the ol' time machine, aka Google Groups' Usenet archive? The thread What specifications will the standard year 2001 PC have? is a fascinating read (really -- I recommend reading every post).

    I noticed a few common thoughts throught the thread that didn't pan out: Multiprocessor desktops becoming commonplace. The demise of X86. Also on a whole people's estimates on HD space were very conservative. People predicted ridiculous resolutions for video.
    Some people were right on the money though: 1GHz processors, 512MB RAM, and permanent connections to the 'net.

    This is one of the best finds I've come across on ye olde Usenet.

  35. Things I could not have imagined that did happen by DigitalDreg · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Ten years ago I had a 486DX/2 running at 66Mhz with 16MB of RAM, 400MB HD, and a 14.4 modem. My 17" IBM running 1280x1024 in 256 colors was the envy of my friends.

    Rather than being dissapointed by what didn't happen, here is what I'm pleased about that did happen, that I didn't expect.

    - T1 download speeds into my house. My cable modem does 1.5Mbits down and 256Kbits up. That never occurred to me.

    - Back then my machine could play back video from CD. Now I can do it in real-time off the Internet.

    - Back then my computer chirped. Bill Clinton's voice coming from the White House web page in 1996 was scratchy. Now my entire music collection is on it.

    - I can make my own CDs. Data, music or both.

    - My machine serves as a digital darkroom.

    - My machine lets me communicate with other people through email. (More of a social change than a technological change - back then I had email, but nobody to write to!) IM, IRC, etc. are also common now.

    - Home networking.

    - A powerful version of Unix in my house, free, with a lot of great applications. (Including MYSQL, which I'm toying with now.)

    - Wireless capability so I can work where I want to, not where the computer is.

    We've come a long way in 10 years ...

  36. You got more than what you asked for... by Transcendent · · Score: 4, Funny

    Today I use an Athlon XP 2400...

    Bet you didn't think you'd get a space heater out of your computer!

  37. The ignorant masses by Transcendent · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Many of you expect so much, but have no idea how hard it is/was to create...

    These billion-transistor CPU's that people use every day go unnoticed. Do you know how much genious was poured into it's creation?

    And you go on to ask for voice recognition and perfect speech generation? Why not perfect AI while you're at it?

    Be greatful and don't ask for much... until you go out and contribute to the development of this technology you ask for then you have not right to complain when you don't get it.

  38. Surely not! by spamchang · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Did anyone see the DMCA or RIAA legal pack of business coming ten years from now? Just think of what life in the future will be like post-resolution-of-said-issues. Orrin Hatch wants to crack our cases with destructive virus files...what will electronic entertainment of the future be like?

    Cold War II: The Race between Digital Rights and Hackers.

  39. Some good news, some bad news... by Sam+Nitzberg · · Score: 3, Insightful

    First, the bad news... computing in the large...

    I generally see less and less interest in formal methods, formal design, disciplined approaches to software construction (by which I am referring to the use and adherence to serious models, not just fodder for coffeehouse discussions). Small, proven O/S kernels, supertight code, and emphasis on requirements analysis as the sorts of things that make for well-built and defined systems are costly, and just don't sell well in a commercial market which demands and receives revenue and, increasingly, waivers from liability for bad software products. Increasing "offshoring" of software development projects won't help keeping the gap between systems-as-intended and systems-as-developed issues from arising.

    Organizations will lean on, and people will continue to accept descriptions of software quality where software testing is emphasized, before software development methodology or rigor.
    Many more large and complex systems will be developed. Their sizes (and complexity of interactions) will outpace the ability of the implementation of their development models to support final code products that meet the required security needs of the public, or of customers. Security problems will get worse before they get better.

    And in the small...
    The good news? Consumer appliances.
    You will be able to carry on a thumbnail chip (or, probably, through a more convenient mechanism, access to your personal material of interest. Wifi-type-access back through VPNs to your data should be readily available. This isn't too far from available now...within some limits...) all the music, photos, and items of personal interest that you would collect and store. I would like to have some confidence that this won't be ruined by digital rights management implementation and supporting legislation, but time will tell. I suspect workarounds will exist to circumvent most DRM systems that will come along. Oh yea, store any of that on a server owned by someone else, and you may end up giving up copyrights and more...Privacy rights and related issues over information you store on anyone else's system will get worse before it gets better.

    Anyway, some thoughts...

    Sam Nitzberg
    http://www.iamsam.com

  40. divergence, specialization - now and in the future by kaan · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I also remember getting a machine about 10 years ago, and I remember that "the future" was all about voice recognition, automation, crazy multimedia at home, etc. It all seemed very exciting to me back then, and for the most part feels kinda "blah" now that we're here.

    So where's "here"? My summary of where we are today consists of a several things. First, I think there's a bigger divergence between the computing experience of a mainstream user vs. the computing experience of a power user (probably most of /. readers fit here). There are more possibilities in software, hardware, networking, and overall usability then there were 10 years ago, but it's pretty much only the power users who really a) understand them, and b) make direct use of them. For the mainstream users, the computing experience is largely unchanged: email, websites, IM, store your digital photos (this last one may be stretching it for the average user).

    While I always enjoy reading about Microsoft's latest fumble, I think they've been *trying* to make computers more specialized so that the user doesn't have to be. All of their Auto Correct features, assistant paper clip thingies, fully retarded (and grossly insecure) scriptability of every goddam product, and various other "features" that end up annoying the hell out of most of us are in fact a solid attempt to make the experience of using a computer more enjoyable for somebody like my mother. In fact, most of our mothers (and fathers) could probably do well to have a helluva lot of assistance using a computer, while most of us probably disable all of that in favor of more direct control. Keep in mind the population spread - there are way more baby boomers using computers than there are /. readers. It took my dad about 10 years to figure out that he didn't have to double-click everything with the mouse (including web pages) in order to open it. And what about our grandparents?

    So for the future, while I would *like* to see all kinds of cool things that would appeal to our geekiness, I'm predicting a slow, plodding future of more of the same - increased divergence between the computing experiences of regular and power users, and way more AutoBullshit and assistance features for the average home user.

  41. You think innovation stopped? by jalefkowit · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Innovation is a funny thing. There's only so much of it that can happen at any one time. That's because there are two finite resources required for it to happen: attention and money. In other words, someone needs to care enough about something to spend time thinking about ways to do it better, and then someone needs to care enough about those new ideas to pay to turn them into realities.

    The reason there has been practically no innovation on the desktop in the last ten years has been because that span of time -- ten years -- coincides precisely with the span of time the Internet has been in the public consciousness. Ever since Mosaic hit in '93 the vast majority of money and attention that's available in the world has been focused on the Net -- making it better, faster, more reliable and able to support more complex applications. That hasn't left a lot of those resources to support innovations on the desktop -- and that's not necessarily a bad thing.

    The first computer I ever connected to the Net, I connected in 1993. It was a 486SX/25 with 8MB of RAM and a whopping 200MB (yes, MB) hard drive. It ran Windows (version 3.1), Office, and some games.

    Today I have a Duron 1200 with 512MB of RAM and an 80GB hard drive. It runs Windows (2000), Office, and some games... and a whole boatload of applications (Web browser, graphical IMAP mail client, IM programs, P2P, etc.) that I could not even have imagined in 1992. And, generally speaking, I'm happy with that -- those things are more useful to me than all the things we thought were going to be huge back in 1993 (immersive VR, CD-ROM encyclopedias, etc.) would have been.

    So, in short, there's been plenty of innovation -- it's just been in a different direction than you (or I) were expecting.

  42. The biggest disappointment for me... by Trolling4Dollars · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...is that computers still aren't the same as televisions: You hit the power button and it's just "there". Sure, we've got suspend and standby and XP boots faster, but it's still a few tens of seconds before the desktop is up and running. Even BeOS wasn't up instantly. Until this happens, PCs will not be where *I* expect them to be by now. The PC should be an appliance by now, and it really isn't.

  43. 1983, 1993, 2003, 2013 by Arandir · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Just trying to remember stuff off the top of my head. Probably off a few years on some of these.
    • 1983

    • IBM PC, 8088, 4.77Hz, 256K+ RAM, $10,000. Language of choice is BASIC. Video is CGA, but only if you can afford the card, MDA otherwise. Removable storage is the 5-1/2" floppy holding 320K. Some people get wise and punch their floppies to make them double sided.

      The OS was PC-DOS, and fit on part of a floppy. Small, fast and feature-less.

      Game I remember distinctly was "Gato" (came out about 1985 I think), a submarine hunt game. It fit on a floppy, and was awesome fun!

      All PC software had to fit on (and run from) a single floppy.

      Networking? Not on the PC! Of course, the PC makes an excellent (but expensive) terminal for a UNIX system, from which you can access the ARPAnet.
    • 1993

    • Packard Smell, i486, 66MHz, 2Mb RAM, $3,000. Language of choice was Turbo C, although some Turbo Pascal diehards (myself) still lingered. Video is VGA and a smattering of SVGA, XVGA cards. Removable storage of choice was the 1.44Mb 3-1/2" floppy. Some people have CDROMS, but not many. Harddrives are the norm, and their typical sizes are about 100 to 500 Megs.

      The OS for most people was still DOS, now version 5.0. People are running this cheesy environment called Windows 3.1 on top of it. I rebel and use OS/2. I need 8M RAM to use it, but it had a UI that GNOME and KDE are barely approaching ten years later.

      My games of choice were Civilization and SimCity. They came on floppies, but a lot of other games are starting to come out on CDROMS, which pisses me off since I can't afford one. They also tend to use more RAM and Video than I can afford either.

      Software in general is bloating. Stuff that takes up 5 to 10 Megs of disk is common. But I'm not bitching much, since they're adding a lot of features, not counting the GUI.

      Networking has arrived! 14.4K modems are becoming standard. If you live in the right area, you can get an internet account. Otherwise AOL and Prodigy are somewhat suitable substitutes.
    • 2003

    • Home Built, P4, 2.8GHz, 1Gig RAM, $1,000. Language of choice is C++, although several dozen other major languages are common. There are no video standards anymore, but the minimum resolution anyone can put up with is 32-bit 1024x768. GPUs are more expensive and have bigger fans than CPUs. Removable media of choice is the CD-R, with USB memory sticks becoming popular. But the 1.44M floppy is still king. It will probably remain standard equipment until the typical BIOS can boot from USB devices (guesstimate of one year).

      The common operating environment is still Windows, but fortunately, the current incarnation runs on top of NT instead of DOS. WinXP recommends 512M RAM. UNIX is making strong headway into the desktop market. Even the most basic Linux distro requires a minimum of 16M RAM, with most recommending 64M.

      I haven't bought any games in a couple of years. The last one was Civilization III. (My how things change!) The game market has become dull. My prediction from ten years earlier, that game developers would start scaling back and produce games that would run on systems that the public actually owned, proved false. Instead, the public eagerly upgrades their RAM and GPU's every six months. I see that the many new blockbuster games require video cards that haven't been on the market more than six months.

      Software in general has long since passed the bloat stage, and has become quivering mounds of fat reminiscent of dead whales washed up on the beach. This isn't limited to the Windows world. I don't see much increased functionality with OpenOffice versus the Lotus SmartSuite of ten years earlier.

      Highspeed internet connections are considered a human right in some regions. You hide your head in shame if you're still using a dialup modem or ISDN.

    Okay, now time for 2013 predictions:

    Sun Home Workstation, 128-bit i986 class, 1

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  44. It's the year 2003... by fwc · · Score: 3, Funny
    ...but where are the flying cars? I was promised flying cars. I don't see any flying cars. Why?

    (Sorry, I just couldn't resist)

  45. Think about twenty years by Simon+Brooke · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Twenty years ago I was using a Xerox 1108 Dandelion. It had a megapixel display (admittedly monochrome only, but for more money you could get an 1132 Dorado which had 24bit colour), an optical three button mouse, ethernet, a WIMP interface, WYSIWYG word-processing, spreadsheet, bitmap and vector graphics editors all as software components so that you could drop a vector graphic into a word-processing document and vice versa. It had a distributed hypertext system, technically similar to the Web. And it had a software development environment which makes today's IDEs look primitive.

    The system box was about 10% bigger all round than a modern mid-tower case. The monitor was very big and heavy, but it was twenty-one inch. Sometimes the machine was infuriatingly slow, but then we were running very compute-intensive software, which would still be slow on today's boxes.

    So what progress have we actually made in twenty years?

    Boxes of this class are now cheaper - much cheaper. Ordinary people can now have them. The Dandelion, in those days, cost about two years of my salary, whereas I can earn the price of my current machine in a couple of weeks. And that ignores the fact that my Dandelion had only 4 megabytes of RAM and 80Megabytes of disk (but against that, the LISP system, criticised in those days for being wasteful of memory, was actually a lot more efficient of memory than modern systems).

    And processers are faster. How much faster in real user terms I don't know. I remember when I switched to an Acorn Archimedes - the first ARM based machine - how much more responsive it felt. The Dandelion was capable of around two DEC MIPs. My present box does over six thousand 'bogomips'. How close a bogomip is to a 'DEC MIP' I don't know, but in terms of user experience this machine is certainly not three thousand times faster than the Dandelion - ten times, maybe.

    So what I'm saying is that actually we've made frighteningly little progress in the last twenty years. In software terms, we've acutally gone backwards. The reasons are very simple

    • the big, proprietary LISP environments on their expensive proprietary hardware could not compete on price with the emerging Sun and Apollo workstations based on cheap commodity microprocessors and low cost BSD UN*X.
    • Xerox - particularly Xerox, but Symbolics, LMI, Texas Instruments as well - singularly failed to capitalise on the wonderful software systems which they had. If a big LISP or SmallTalk system had been ported to commodity hardware early enough and sold cheap enough we'd have better software now
    • Finally, the LISP community more or less destroyed itself with Common LISP, creating a 'common' variant of the language which very few people could love, and spending the years when BSD was developing a commited corps of UN*X processors mainly gazing at their own navels and trying to destroy each other.

    So what are the achievements of the last twenty years? Well, the hardware boys have achieved a lot. Kudos to them. On the software side I think the best and most creative thing that's been achieved is the GNU General Public License. It's about the only real software advance I've seen in my working life.

    The next twenty years

    So what does this imply for the next twenty years? I think we have to face the fact that the hardware boys will continue to leave us behind. We will see smaller, lighter, lower power devices. We may see usable speach input. The 'desktop box', as we know it, may die, leaving only servers and portables.

    Processors growing faster is always good but in a sense this is academic. For most purposes a good user experience can be provided on machines a thousand times slower than our present machines, or, to put it differently, bad programming can eat up every ounce of speed the hardware boys can give us for no discernable improvement in user experience. What I hope to see in twenty years is my six thousand bogomips of processor in a package that draws curre

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