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RIM Color BlackBerry 7230 Review
securitas submits this painfully well-linked piece: "eWEEK reviews the RIM BlackBerry 7230 color handheld, Research In Motion's latest combination wireless e-mail/phone/PDA, and the first BlackBerry to feature a full-color display. The tri-band GSM/GPRS J2ME device features a 240-by-160-pixel, 65,000-color display, 16 MB flash +2 MB SRAM, an Intel 386 32-bit chip, SMS, an HTML browser (missing from the preceding BlackBerry 5810), a claimed 4 hours talk/10 days standby removable/rechargeable lithium-ion battery, POP3/IMAP/Exchange/Notes wireless e-mail for up to 10 accounts with file attachment management, security via Triple DES encryption, USB sync/recharging and the usual organizer functions. RIM squeezes it all into a 4.8 oz/136g, 4.4x2.9x0.8 inch/11.3x7.4x2.0 cm package (tech specs at RIM).
The BlackBerry 7230 is exclusive to T-Mobile USA until 2004 and costs about $400. With this release, RIM is moving the BlackBerry into the prosumer/consumer market to expand its customer base beyond enterprise users. The release comes amid speculation of BlackBerry doom following RIM's recent patent ruling loss and ahead of the highly anticipated Handspring Treo 600, its direct competition (which includes the MS Pocket PC Phone Edition Smartphone and the Palm Tungsten W). More at Wired News, E-Commerce Times, InfoWorld and Forbes/Reuters."
Impressive specs, but can it run Linux? ;-)
seriously, not funny.
I really like these new screens! I've been using a palm m100 forever and I think i might finally take the upgrade!
that's a whole lot of links in a single post
auto linker working over time?
The intro is too long and is painful to read, almost like a troll article. Couldn't you have split it into a few lines of intro and a main text section?
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Even the printer freindly version is bloated. Here is the cleaned up tota!
August 16, 2003
RIM Ships Color BlackBerry
By Jason Brooks
The BlackBerry 7230, the latest in Research In Motion LTD.'s line of BlackBerry wireless messaging devices, became available in the United States this week, complete with a tri-band GPRS radio and an attractive new color display.
Like the BlackBerry 5810, which eWEEK Labs reviewed last year (see review), the 7230 maintains the mobile messaging competency on which RIM's BlackBerry devices have risen to popularity. However, users who need more than basic messaging and cell phone functionality will have to look elsewhere.
The 7230 does include applications for managing contacts, calendars, to-do items and notes, but it lacks appreciable third-party application support and is also missing any sort of memory or peripheral expansion slot. Competing Pocket PC- and Palm OS-based devices offer these things.
In addition, some of the improvements we'd hoped to see materialize since last year remain absent. For example, the 5810 was the first RIM device to ship with a General Packet Radio Service radio, and yet it lacked an HTML browser--which would be one of the best uses for a speedier Internet connection.
The 7230 does include an HTML browser, but T-Mobile USA Inc., the only currently available service provider for the new RIM device, does not officially support HTML browsing. Instead, the T-Mobile service plans available for the 7230 allow access to a handful of Wireless Application Protocol-based "t-zones," including information such as basic news and sports headlines.
Somewhat confusingly, though, we could in fact visit HTML pages in our tests, albeit with unpredictable results. We at times received network error messages, and HTML pages tended to load slowly. Browsing seemed to work best when we configured the browser not to download images.
The 7230 sells for $399. Unlimited wireless data and t-zone access costs $29.99 per month atop one of T-Mobile's standard phone rate plans. Alternatively, users may opt for a $39.99 monthly plan with unlimited e-mail, t-zone access and 300 two-way text messages. On this plan, voice calls cost 20 cents per minute.
The 7230 performed acceptably as a telephone, although it does require the use of an included earbud/microphone combo. We'd like to see a Bluetooth radio included in the device, which would enable the 7230 to team with a wireless headset. In addition, integrated Bluetooth would enable users to access the 7230's GPRS Internet connection with a laptop.
RIM lists the 7230's talk time at approximately 4 hours, with a standby time of 10 days.
Measuring 4.4 inches tall, 2.9 inches wide and 0.8 inches thick and weighing 4.8 ounces, the 7230 is a bit smaller than the 5810 and similar in size to Handspring Inc.'s Treo.
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The 7230 is built with the same sort of thumb keyboard found in previous versions of this device, but instead of the 160-by-160-pixel monochrome display that the 5810 featured, this device comes with a 240-by-160-pixel, 65,000-color display that we found very readable both indoors and in sunlight.
The 7230 can be used to send and receive e-mail from Microsoft Corp.'s Exchange or IBM's Lotus Software division's Domino servers via RIM's desktop redirector software or its Enterprise Sync Server products.
RIM's BlackBerry Web Client Web-based service is designed to forward mail to the 7230 from Post Office Protocol and IMAP accounts, as well as from Exchange accounts using Outlook Web Access and from Notes accounts using iNotes.
The Web Client worked well enough, but we found it frustrating that once we'd added an account for forwarding, we couldn't view or change any account information beyond our password.
Senior Anal ist Jason Brooks can be reached at jason_brooks@ziffdavis.com.
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Except one. How many patents can this thing infringe upon simultaneously?
looks especially designed to not be readable on a Blackberry pager. Nice usability test though ...
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a company spokesman. No real average human being would have that many links of a product except a company man.
These things keep getting more and more appealing. Someday when I have money I'll have to pick one up.
During the power outage, our execs in New York and Toronto kept in contact by using their Blackberries. Might be the first time they ever REALLY used them, but hey!
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is needed. besides, unless it runs linux, who of us cares? :-P
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I do dearly miss the previous generation of Blackberry with Mobitex network access. Not only does Mobitex have vastly better coverage that even works in airplanes, but that version of the handheld had a proper C API and berry-to-berry networking capabilities.
RIM took the same device and gave it two product names, the 7210 and the 7230. Each are precisely the same and the 7230 is likely never to be carried by another company anyway (as RIM will make them specific for the carrier's needs then slap different number variation on it to distinguish the difference). I'd recommend anyone getting one to get the 7210 on AT&T Wireless as you won't have to deal with the crappy coverage that has become synonymous with the T-Mobile name. I got mine this last week, am not using the phone function, and still am at 65% battery left! Related reading: http://news.com.com/2100-1041-5063352.html
I thought I'd heard that RIM got hit with a patent lawsuit and were barred from selling Blackberry until like 2015 or something? Why would anyone buy one now under those conditions? Once they stop providing services you'll have a nice expensive paperweight.
I realize you're trolling, but you can really find more information on the Blackberry on the tech section of my site.
I use a P800 and its just small enough to be a phone, just big enough to be a PDA... does wireless E-mail just great... and I have downloaded some good 3rd party apps for it....
Lawsuits in motion releases a 386DX handheld.
Why am I not jumping up and down in the streets for joy?
Oh, right, it's a 386 and it's $400. I forgot for half a second.
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"The tri-band GSM/GPRS J2ME device features
[...] an Intel 386 32-bit chip, [...]"
That gives "backporting" a whole new meaning.
Didn't they just get in quite a bit of legal trouble for "borrowing" somebody else's technology? Seems like a pretty bold move to introduce new products at a time like this.
The least the article submitter could've done is add a link or something to the item in question. This writeup is worthless!
about a cellphone. Get a grip buddy.
This is one of those "troll trolls" that goes around claiming that the parent poster copy and pasted something, or changed something into a troll.
Please moderate this guy down
Imagine a Beowulf cluster of these...! OK, how's that for my first /. post? Do I fit in?
FUCK YOU
Parent poster is "Anonymous Coward" a KNOWN TROLL SUPPORTER.
well damn... how are we to know which server we should try and slashdot with so many links?
blame me!
securitas submits this painfully well-linked piece:
Try painfully long. It was almost 3/4 of a page long, and I'm running at 1280x1024.
Are we going to see adver..cough, sorry, stories, every time Sony comes out with a new Clie too? Oops, sorry, I forget, we already get that :-)
Please help metamoderate.
And if that wasn't enough, the software is completely proprietary ("end-to-end proprietary", in marketing-speak).
If you can't stay away some hours from your email, you'd better never leave the office.
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I actually considered buying this one (I'm a 100% T-Customer in terms of conectivity) but after reading the review I'll pass.
It's OK if HTML doesn't show as flashy as on IE 6 with every plugin you can get on the web. But crashes? Slowpoking on certain code? Not very reashuring.
Can I update the Browser or install my own? Not easy anyway.
And the weedyness of the account (with extra costs) and it's unconfigurability and unconectability don't add to my trust in this thing.
Don't get me wrong, 400$ for a device that's as featureladen as this is a good deal. Especially when it manages to integrate a PDA with a Mobile pretty well and has a batterytime that is usefull. But with all this proprietary stuff and them glitches in the service account I'll wait another while.
This seems a bit like bananaware to me.
We suffer more in our imagination than in reality. - Seneca
Holy shit! Being a former employee of RIM, while I was there, they suggested that we give honest good word of mouth for the blackberry (back when the 950 came out), but this is seriously overkill... I'm truely curious if this guy works for Rim, or at the very least has some massive amount of money in their stock and is trying to inflate the value so he can recoup his loses after the negative patent ruling...
But what really bakes my noodle, is why the hell this made it to the front page... Are there any slashdot editors left? Or is story acceptance simply based on the number of links in the text?
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Any one else think this guy is a little schizophrenic? He karma whores and then replies to his own post about how anonymous coword is a karma whore and you should mod him down!
I, for one, look forward to welcoming our new 240-by-160-pixel lithium-iron battery overlords.
Er... can you lose the links next time?
You may as well dump a Google link in for the title of every article. Ok, so it's relevant and topical, but there is a limit to the amount of information you really need surrounding a topic, and 24 links is way past it...
"Prosumer"? "Prosumer"?? "Prosumer"???
Have a look at his journal:
;o)
"My campaign starts today, with my three accounts. And you will be seriously trolled! I have had lots of bites already."
I think he forgot to switch accounts...
If I See Another Hyperlink I Might Explode
Im dreaming ofa big bndwdth, That can resist the
No one I know could use a mobile phone that way - who's buying these things?
Now there's an excuse to go and fire your marketing department...
Of the submitter's previously accepted stories, this one and this one mention BlackBerry.
While both do mention BlackBerry, both also mention competing products in a good light.
Submitter's other stories which have been accepted, stories on completely unrelated topics, are equally abundantly linked.
Judging by the submitter's past comments' moderation, the submitter does not need more karma.
I suspect what we have here is not an ad, but rather a story submitted by a user who has some exceptional interest in following handheld phone/data technologies.
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As a student job, a work in call center for pagers CS and cellphone activation center. We have to keep ourselves from clicking on disconnect when we receive calls from RIMs callers. These are a bitch to support and to activate.
1) Every BlackBerry with the model numbers in the 62xx, 65xx, 67xx, and 72xx ranges can be used like a regular cell-phone, by holding it to your ear. No headset required.
2) All the four digit model number BlackBerries (GSM/GPRS, CDMA/1xRTT and iDEN) use ARM processors. Only the old Mobitex and DataTAC devices used the 386 processors.
a company spokesman. No real average human being would have that many links of a product except a company man.
Survey says.... BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZT!
Sorry, but I have never had anything to do with RIM beyond meeting some of their staff at trade shows.
By your logic I work for Handspring and Sony too. If you look at my previous posts I always try to include a variety of sources.
I'm considering getting an all-in-one phone/PDA-type device and I was looking at the relative merits of a BlackBerry vs. some of the other more phone-like devices. Since I'd already done the work trying to find out about it, I thought it might make a useful Slashdot post.
At one time, I was using the Motorola C230 mobile... what a piece of trash, really.
Then I moved onto the Blackberry6210 - It was good, no complaints - the monochrome was a bit of a disappointment but the backlight was nice and bright, bright enough that I could use it as a flashlight to find the keyhole on the cardoor if need be.
Now, I'm currently using a colourised version of the 6210 (which more than likely won't be released now because they seemed to be opting to release the 7230 instead). I've got a 7230 waiting for me at a mate's place, I just need to get around to picking it up.
To all you nay-sayers and the people being influenced by them... these devices are great. Battery life is sublime and the functionality is better than anything I would've expected. And for whoever said that there's "no speaker" and that you have to plug in a headset just to listen, that's rubbish.. just put the thing to your head - there's a great speaker built-in.
The only thing I don't have but want for mine is an SSH client but the 3rd party solutions are just too expensive for a single-license purchase.
The 7210 is DUAL-band. The 7230 is TRI-band. It makes a difference to some people.
You are CORRRECT, sir! :)
And even though I'm telling you this you still won't be able to resist.
...I think we have a winner for the "Most Links in a Slashdot Post Ever" award.
I belong to the ______ generation.
What exactly can I do on it that I can't do on my Danger HipTop (aka T-Mobile SideKick)?
That's what I thought.
That should be "a HTML browser", not "an HTML browser." The "H" of "HTML" is pronounced, therefore you use an "a". "An" is only used with silent H's where the vowel is pronounced instead of "h" i.e. "a horse", "a hospital", "an honour", "an hor's doeuvre".
My pet hate is news readers who say "an horrific accident" - it's "a horrific accident" dammit! (The exception would be if it occurred in East London, in which case it might be "an 'orrific accident"...)
Didn't the product namers learn anything from Ford's Merkur XR4Ti? RIM BlackBerry 7230? I'm not buying until they get some memorable names that reflect the different models' typical use. My sugguestions:
RIM BlackBerry 875: Rim Fun
RIM BlackBerry 5810: Rim Home
RIM BlackBerry 7230: Rim Job
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You've never used a high res Clie, have you?
hey!
The biggest usability problem here on slashdot has to be figuring which link takes you to the actual story. Its not so bad when using a real browser that shows you the full URL in the tray, but its especially annoying when using a mobile browser.
The editors really need to be clear about which is the main link, use alt tags, bold the main link, etc. Right now this is fairly ridiculous.
If you get an iPAQ (or any PDA) with tMobile's unlimited internet is a much better deal. Looking at all the plans for BlackBerries, the $30/month (or $20/month if you allready have a tmobile cell) for tMobile is really cheap. You could also go with the sidekick for $100 less.
Throw me a mod point, I know how to use google! Or maybe not...
Likely this will be marked as troll, flamebait or both but here we go.
I work for a place where we use the 6220 model. They stink, if you go underground and no longer have signal they will not got properly pick up signal and email when you get back to street level, unless you reset the device. We got "SIM card failures" on a very large number of devices new out of the box. return rates are very high think 10-20% (best guess here)
As for the older devices they had springs that would fail on the thumbwheel. Die w/o warning, had faulty boards, LCD's that were missing Pixels "new" out of the box.
It could be that I just got "lucky" with a bad batch after bad batch but after seeing so many dead non-abused units, I would not trust QC of any blackberry devices.
How much does an advert like this cost on slashdot ? Usually you just see big shiny pictures. Does it cost less when you make it look like a regular story? Or maybe more because slashdot is cheating it's audience?
an Intel 386 32-bit chip
That's strange - I thought they use the ADI Softfone chipset. This would seem to imply that they do...
if you go for a RIM you're a prosumer; if not, you're a, er, confessional.
All you silly US people psyched out by your lame phones. :-D
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michael call it "well-linked," I call it "Link Pollution." I did not read the article, as I have better things to to than figure out which link(s) to visit. Slashdot is very frequently guilty of this practice.
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I can't fairly make any recommendation at this point. It's one thing to look at the specs of a particular device. It's entirely another matter to do a hands-on test. I haven't used either the BlackBerry 7230 or the Treo 600 so, until I do, no recommendations.
I suggest that you decide what features you absolutely need and which ones are just nice-to-have/not essential. Then rank them from most important features to least important. After you have done that, THEN look at which devices best match your list.