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Open Source Community Approaches SCO

An anonymous reader writes "eWeek has an article about the open source community approaching SCO. SCO now says there are over a million lines of offending code in Linux and they still won't show them to anybody."

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  1. ummm..that many? by puff-d-dwaggie · · Score: 2, Funny

    Heck, I didnt realize there were that many lines of code in Linux, much less in SCO Unix..sheesh...

    "Get Moose and Squirrel!"

  2. Whoa, by archeopterix · · Score: 5, Funny
    One million lines!

    Soon we'll hear zillion infinities lines plus their dads being bigger than our dads.

  3. playground warfare by tssiap_wmuc · · Score: 2, Funny

    so is the open source community gonna beat up SCO or what?

  4. Re:Over 1,000 by Kewjoe · · Score: 5, Funny

    it has 1,000,001

    that 1 line that isn't offending is

    # Made by Linus Torvald

  5. If you don't pay SCO their licensing fees... by Junta · · Score: 5, Funny

    They'll remove one MILLION lines of code...

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    1. Re:If you don't pay SCO their licensing fees... by Famatra · · Score: 1, Funny

      "They'll remove one MILLION lines of code..."

      SCO will next say that the amount of infringing lines of code is: ONE HUNDRED BILLION

  6. Note they said "offending code"... by tbase · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...maybe they mean lines of code that offends Microsoft - all of them. Or maybe each line counts as one, but the ones that really tack them off count as 3 or 4 lines. Or maybe they're running at 640x480 with Word Wrap on... Ok, I'll stop now.

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    1. Re:Note they said "offending code"... by rosie_bhjp · · Score: 2, Funny

      Hmmm.. maybe they are calculating it the way that the RIAA was calculating the 'number of confiscated burners' a few months back. Fast burners counted as 2 or 3 seperate units.

      With SCO, efficient lines of code count as double or triple the infringement because their coders couldn't write the code as cleanly.

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  7. Next week's news: by Phekko · · Score: 3, Funny

    SCO spokesman reveals the actual number of lines stolen to be "a bit over 174,5 billion" and that SCO still refuses to show any of them.

    In related news SCO now demands $5999 for a license

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  8. Re:Oh Good by jvollmer · · Score: 1, Funny
    Another SCO story. I love how these never contain any real information and yet we're subjected to about 6 a day.

    Shhh, Dear. Don't cause a fuss.
    I'll 'ave your SCO story. I love it!
    I'm having SCO, SCO, SCO, SCO, Baked beans,
    SCO, SCO, and SCO!

    If it's not Consolidated Lint, it's just fuzz!

  9. Re:Over 1,000 by mordicus · · Score: 5, Funny

    2.4.20 is roughly 3.5 million lines, although about 2.5 million lines of it is drivers. The SMP code (all platforms) seems to be ~15000 lines of which ~800000 lines is copied verbatim from sysV.

  10. Re:Over 1,000 by R.Caley · · Score: 4, Funny
    So according to SCO, almost 20% of Linux is copied directly from their code.

    You have to remember that they reformatted it one character per line. They are claiming the whitespace.

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  11. I can guess which million by tgv · · Score: 2, Funny

    I think I know what million lines they're referring to: they're the lines containing open and close braces.

  12. "Offending" code? by Tsar · · Score: 3, Funny

    "SCO now says there are over a million lines of offending code in Linux..."

    They might be referring to the commented code. You know, RMS can get pretty ribald with his comment blocks when he's got a few cans of Jolt in him...

  13. Re:Over 1,000 by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 1, Funny
    Well,

    We at SCO have atomized our search further, and continue to be more suprised as we further this process.

    I beleive these two fragments will be readily apparent to anyone, even slightly familiar with the "Linux" code:

    strcpy

    fprint

    ifdef

    I think you'l agree that there are a

    • Million
    of these things!
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  14. Re:Over 1,000 by Lord_Slepnir · · Score: 3, Funny

    Here are the offending lines:

    */
    /*
    {
    }
    while(1)
    else {
    else
    #include <stdio>
    #include <iostream>
    do
    do {
    return;

    If you look at the source code, clearly almost 1/5th of the lines are comprised of these lines of their propriatary code. We must seriously take the effort to remove these lines and respect their hard work and contributions to linux.

  15. Chewbacca by b1t+r0t · · Score: 4, Funny
    Does Chewbacca not have fur on his arms? Does Chewbacca not have fur on his legs? Does Chewbacca not have fur on his face? Does Chewbacca not have over a million hairs in his fur?

    If Chewbacca is furry, you must convict!

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  16. Linux is Dead by nt2UNIX · · Score: 3, Funny

    You know, at first I that it was kinda funny that SCO was doing this. Having read a lot of stuff about ATT and BSD. It seemed almost a right of passage for Linux into the real world.

    Now I tempted to install Linux on a box in protest. Hold on a minute, what I'm I saying.

    Long Live FreeBSD!!!!!!

  17. A fish story: by sockit2me9000 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Darl's siting on a chaise lounge, drinking a forty and gazing around at his spitting chicken Camaro on cinderblocks in his front yard, he's talking to his sons, Darl, his brother Darl and his other brother Darl. "So, this one time ah wuz writing some proprietary code fer my operating system when along came this big ol fish and took mah bait. That damn thing had to be taken a good 80 lines of code. Real purty code it wuz, too." "paw, I thought you said it wuz 200." "That's what ah meant" The other brother Darl looks confused, "Ah thought you said it was ah couple thousand" "Boy, you questioning me? Ah said it wuz a millions line of code. I mean it wuz HUGE!" Old Maw Redmond calls from the cabin, "What wuz fish doing in that lake anyway? That's our watering hole, not theres. We'll just have to start washing yer britches in that there lake, that'll clear em out. Now git up her and get yer vittles." And in the darkness of the lake a giant blue beast stirs.

  18. Re:Not much new there by cspenn · · Score: 2, Funny

    Nice! 20%? I wonder if there's some way I can Copyright 1/5th of the English Language regarding credit cards, since I run a credit card site. (prior art doesn't seem to be stopping SCO...) Then I can charge SCO to license business financial language for every crappy annual report they've ever released.

    1. Copyright 1/5 of language.
    2. File lawsuit.
    3. Profit!

    Chris
    Future Copyright Holder of Everything Credit Card Related, Pay Up Now at StudentPlatinum.com

  19. Ladies and gentlemen... by Suhas · · Score: 2, Funny

    ..of the Jury, we own over 1 million line of code in the Linux kernel and many worms written over the years..err...

  20. Wait.. by borgdows · · Score: 2, Funny

    if they charged 699$ for ~80000 lines of code, how much will they charge for 1 MILLION lines ??

    let's do the math:

    699$ * (1000000 / 80000) = 8737.5$ !!

    and it will be more than 18000$ (EIGHTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS) after the discount period!!

    better run to your nearest SCO distributor NOW!! ;)

  21. Re:I know this is a flame...but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I for one welcome our old joke overlords, and remind them that as a Slashdot poster I would be useful in rounding people up to toil in their underground custard-pie caves.

  22. Awww, poor baby by Snags · · Score: 3, Funny
    SCO CEO Darl McBride was going on a family vacation to Hawaii when the RedHat suit and IBM countersuit came up. Gee, it's too bad the nice man's free time was ruined by corporate litigation.

    Oh, wait, many people develop Linux in their free time...

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  23. SCO GPL by broeman · · Score: 2, Funny

    This is how SCO wants us to see the GPL.

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  24. Did the Moderator miss the joke, or did I? by abulafia · · Score: 4, Funny
    The SMP code (all platforms) seems to be ~15000 lines of which ~800000 lines is copied verbatim from sysV.

    So, am I to assume that the Linux kernel is 5333% infringing code?

    Man, I wish I could code that efficiently.

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  25. an angry mob by jmb-d · · Score: 4, Funny

    Open Source Community Approaches SCO

    [insert video clip of villagers with pitchforks and torches storming the castle here]

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  26. In breaking news..... by Kref1 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Mr. McBride has confirmed that he actually wrote the entire linux kernel himself. That damn Linus kid broke into his house, kicked his dog, and stole it.
    Everyone should promptly remove Linux from their computers, send McBride his royality check and a handwritten appology and get well card for his dog, and then goto your local computer store and purchase a new copy of Windows XP Home

  27. 100,000,000,000 by Sebby · · Score: 4, Funny
    Soon we'll see McBride putting his pinky to his mouth and say "100 billion lines of code!"

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  28. Re:More by joostje · · Score: 2, Funny
    Actually, the plural form of a word is used only when there is not exactly 1. For instance. If there is 0.00001 million lines of infringing code
    Or maybe 0.0000000 million lines of infringing code?
  29. SCO Forum by iwaku · · Score: 5, Funny

    SCO: You must pay us $699 for
    [big sound effect]
    70 lines of code!
    [people laughing cruelly]
    Sorry. One million lines of code!!
    [dramatic music]

  30. You think SCO has dads? by A+nonymous+Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Even if they do have dads, it's odds-on they don't know who.

    1. Re:You think SCO has dads? by LittleBigLui · · Score: 4, Funny
      Even if they do have dads

      Be assured, they do. 70. No, hundreds. No, wait. MILLIONS of them.

      they don't know who

      They know who, they just won't tell anyone else.

      Apart from that, laws of physics dictate that you can't create energy or mass, and hence this whole procreating-parent-child-father-mother-thingie is ILLEGAL anyhow.

      (Just when we thought that 3.-???-4.-Profit!!!-Soviet-Russia was bad enough...)
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  31. SCO owns GPL by kmahan · · Score: 2, Funny

    You're forgetting that SCO owns the GPL notice at the front of every file.

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  32. Re:Isn't samba GPL by Stackster · · Score: 2, Funny

    They probably plan just to sell one copy of "Legend", and they sell it just to keep a backup of their original.

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  33. Re:Heise News shows a code: by JAgostoni · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's good to know that Unix/Linux programmers are following good code practice with comments, meaningful variable names, and maintainable code.

  34. Dr. Evil redux by Valdrax · · Score: 4, Funny

    I keep flashing back to Austin Powers 2...

    Dr. Evil: ...We demand payment for our ONE TRILLION lines of UNIX code. [puts pinky finger to edge of mouth]
    [IBM board bursts into laughter.]
    IBM CEO: One trillion lines of code? [laughs] There isn't that many lines in the entire GNU system! I mean, you might as well demand payment for a billion-jillion-bazillion lines of code!

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  35. Re:Over 1,000 by Entropius · · Score: 2, Funny

    I hold the patent on the programming technique used as "whitespace". That'll be $10 per space and $100 per line-feed, please.

  36. Re:they're showing some.... by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Funny
    McBride said that pattern-recognition experts SCO hired have ferreted out a slew of infringing code in Linux. "They have found already a mountain of code," he said. "The DNA of Linux is coming from Unix."

    In other words, both Linux and Unix are written using C syntax. Who'd have thought it!?

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  37. Re:They ARE dumber than you thought... by iainl · · Score: 2, Funny

    "GPL invalid 'cause copyright law forbids multiple copies? "

    Yep. And the fact that SCO Unix allows itself to be backed up to tape (or, come to think of it, even installed from the CDs) means that the SCO Unix license is just as invalid.

    I hereby claim that, because SCO let me copy it once, I am the rightful owner of all System V IP.

    Which I now place in the public domain. End of argument.

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  38. Re:Isn't samba GPL by Alien+Being · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Isn't this a stupid strategy?"

    Not really. Consider that Chewbacca is a Wookiee from the planet Kashyyyk...

  39. Re:Wont show them to anyone... except germans? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Wait, hang on a minute, back up. Lets just check I have this right.

    SCO claims that code has been copied, verbatim, from SyS V into Linux.

    SCO produce a slide, comparing their SyS V code one the left hand side to what appears to be the same Linux code on the right hand side.

    The SyS V code is obsfucated with a Greek font, in order to "protect" "SCO's" "IP"...

    But the Linux code is not. The non-obsfucated Linux code which is supposed to be a direct copy of the SyS V code. Which is the same.

    Why did they obsfucate the SyS V code? If its the same as the Linux code we can see your code right there! On the right hand side! McFly!

  40. Coincidence? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    SCO is sounding more and more like the Iraqi Minister of Information? Coincidence? I don't think so. I think SCO executive management needs a LONG vacation in Guantanamo Bay.

  41. Re:C'mon, SCO, Show SOME lines by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Yeah, but if SCO started making sense, the Chewbacca defense would become null and void.

  42. Re:Over 1,000,000 by shippo · · Score: 2, Funny

    Just change it to a photo of the Iraqi minister for infomation.

  43. Re:Over 1,000 by iainl · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Function g() calls function f(), so all the code in g() is derivative. Functions h1(), h2(), and h3() all call, g(), so they are all derivative. etc etc etc."

    Arrgh! Its like a viral copyright or something!

    err. hang on a moment...

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  44. He's not dead! by Yarn · · Score: 2, Funny

    Though history books claim that McCarthy passed away in 1957, McCarthy is still obviously alive and kicking today. He claims he was actually cryogenically frozen by the C.I.A. and is thawed out occasionally to battle manifestations of international Communism.

    Source

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