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The Trilogy as One

jmays writes "New Line is re-releasing 'The Fellowship of the Ring' and 'The Two Towers' except this time, in their respective extended versions. When? Once each week for the two weeks prior to the opening of 'The Return of the King.'"

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  1. That will be fun by (54)T-Dub · · Score: 4, Informative

    I felt that the extended edition of fellowship was a lot better than the studio version. It will be fun to see it in the theaters.

    I'm less excited about Two Towers since I found the movie to be a disappointment. I'll still go check it out though. (who am i kidding, i'll still probably buy the dvd Tolkien whore that I am).

    I don't know about the Dec 16th all day marathon though. Something about going to a movie at 3pm and leaving after midnight. Besides, my GF has enough trouble staying awake in a 1.5 hour long movie.

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    1. Re:That will be fun by pizzaman100 · · Score: 4, Funny

      I wonder if they will allow catherders into the theater...

    2. Re:That will be fun by ph43thon · · Score: 5, Funny

      and what exactly would the cat herders be doing?

    3. Re:That will be fun by SomeOtherGuy · · Score: 4, Informative

      Besides, my GF has enough trouble staying awake in a 1.5 hour long movie.

      Leave her home!

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    4. Re:That will be fun by rifter · · Score: 3, Informative

      Leave her home!

      I say fuck her.

    5. Re:That will be fun by K8Fan · · Score: 3, Funny

      Dunno, but a catheter might be a good idea. But I don't look forward to putting one in.

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    6. Re:That will be fun by peacegoddss · · Score: 4, Funny

      Wouldn't you miss a lot of the movie then?

  2. Dec. 16th Marathons by Chaltek · · Score: 5, Informative

    Perhaps more exciting than the extended edition re-releases is the promise of marathon showings December 16th.
    FOTR @ 1500
    TTT @ 1900
    ROTK @ 2300

    Not only can you to see the entire story at once, but beat all the other line-standing fans by 1 whole hour!
    That must count for some serious geek points in the grand scheme of things.

    Call your favorite theater today and request that they carry this special engagement. If they won't, drive to a big city, this ought to be worth it!

    1. Re:Dec. 16th Marathons by Brad+Cossette · · Score: 5, Funny

      Can you image the effects of having an entire nerd populace sitting on its backside for 9 straight hours of LOTR?
      - Viruses go rampant as sysadmins fail to respond to urgent system messages
      - Patches, code deadlines missed
      - Executives everywhere are paralyzed as their IT depts leave for a whole day and they can't figure out what to do when that Blue Screen with the white letters appears (in case you're reading this: reboot)
      - More importantly, the obesity % of the American populace has a massive spike

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    2. Re:Dec. 16th Marathons by Chess_the_cat · · Score: 5, Funny

      How about the effect on the theatre? Bring your gas masks boys.

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    3. Re:Dec. 16th Marathons by Xenoproctologist · · Score: 5, Funny

      Will every ticket to these special engagements come with a free catheter so we won't have to get up in the exact middle of all three movies to avoid reaching bladder critical-mass? What about a caffeine IV-drip?

  3. Not my cup of tea by JohnGrahamCumming · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I know that I'm probably going to get flamed by the /. faithful but I really
    did not enjoy the first LOTR film and decided to not bother with the rest of
    the trilogy. I couldn't imagine the tedium of sitting through an extended
    version.

    The problem with them was that they were quite simply boring. Although the
    filmmakers had done this incredible technical job of putting the world of
    Middle Earth on the screen it felt horribly sterile. Of course it's often
    the case that a film doesn't work as well as the way you imagined the book,
    but in the case of LOTR the film seemed to have little merit. It was a
    long road movie without the depth of the Middle Earth world and relationships
    between the characters and the different type of characters lost in the
    filming.

    Not trying to troll, just that the film had all the look of Middle Earth
    without any of the feeling. A bit like Matrix Reloaded: all shiny but
    hollow at the same time.

    John.

    (Of course there was the incomparable Liv Tyler
    so it wasn't a totally wasted 3 hours :-)

    1. Re:Not my cup of tea by brakk · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Everybody always says that about any movie that comes out that was made from a book. "OMG, the book was so much better. blah blah blah. I'm such an elitist bastard blah blah blah" There is no way they can fit a book into a two hour screen play. Yes, I think LOTR felt a bit rushed trying to squeeze everything they could into it, even at three hours. But you have to look at them as two separate entities or just not see it in the first place because you know they could never do a decent book justice.

    2. Re:Not my cup of tea by Marx_Mrvelous · · Score: 5, Insightful

      John-
      I'm sorry to hear that you didn't knjoy the movie. However, if your main criticism is "it was boring" then you really need to re-evaluate the film. If the acting were bad, the plot simple and the effects horrible, then you can say it was a bad movie. But "boring" is too much the result of either too little imagination, sleepiness/depression, or misunderstanding. I once saw a movie while I was in a very bad mood, and I pretty much hated it. Upon seeing the same movie later in a better mood, I loved it.

      With that in mind, you may want to watch the movie again.

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    3. Re:Not my cup of tea by techstar25 · · Score: 5, Funny

      I agree. I saw Titan A.E. while tripping on LSD, and I thought it was the greatest movie I've ever seen. I even cried at the end. I haven't watched it again since, so that I don't spoil the wonderful memory. ;)

    4. Re:Not my cup of tea by slipstick · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You don't try to fit the book into the film, you create a screen-play from the book. It is a "based on" type of thing. It is entirely possible to create a film that is as good or better than a book if you do it right.

      Now having said that I was slightly disappointed with the way the films have portrayed the main point of the book, e.g. the destroying of evil to preserve good. Don't get me wrong I loved the films but they have lost a certain element that really comes through in the narrative of the books. Basically the films are much more dark than the books are. As dire as the book seems some times there always seems to be a chapter thrown in of happiness to reenforce just exactly what they are fighting for.

      This didn't have to happen. Peter Jackson has done a great job of special effects and making this in to a great action flick but he lost some of the feeling and it was sooooo easy to fix. Instead of starting "The Fellowship of the Ring" with the story of the ring it should have started as the book did, Bilbo's birthday party. You can easily fill in the audience when Gandalf finds out exactly what the ring is. In fact this leaves some suspense for 1/2 hour while the audience is settling in and enjoying the scenery. Than when Gandalf comes back and tells Frodo the story you could have inserted the action sequence from the beginning of the film using Gandalf's voice for the voice over which would have lent more "harshness" to it.

      For as great as the books are, and I absolutely love them, they still come down to good vs evil and we all know how that will end we just don't know the details. The point is to make those who don't know anything about the books to fall in love with the simplicity and naivety of the Shire(recalling childhood), the majesty of the elves(the ability to believe that there are benevolent "gods"), the incredible variety and wonder of nature(the absolute silliness but child like qualities of Tom Bombadil, Gandalf's friendship with Shadowfax, Legolas falling in love with Fanghorn, Gimli falling in love with Helm's deep). The idea that man is soooo small in compared to the age of the universe or even the earth, e.g. the Ents are Old beyond imagining but this doesn't come through.

      Almost all of this went missing from the films.

      And last but not least, how dare anyone but the King of Gondor touch the sword of Isildir! That was simply unneeded, sure it doesn't mean anything to a person who hasn't read the books but for those who have, that incident alone should make them question Jackson's real commitment to the character of the books. Hell, once again there was simply NO NEED FOR IT. Why didn't Aragorn have the sword when Frodo met him just like in the book? There's no need to explain in detail as the book did. It is the thing that makes Frodo "recognize" Aragorn and that's easily done in a line or two or three.

      Anyway, enough analysis, suffice it to say that I think the books are great the films in their own way are great but that they miss the character of the book for no good reason.

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    5. Re:Not my cup of tea by satanami69 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Its so lame when people throw this suggestion out there: first, Neo sensed the sentinals. How would you explain that?

      1) The alarms in the ship went off, telling them the sentinals are coming. I sensed them from my seat.

      Second, are we to believe Neo just happened to gesture at precisely the same time as the EMP went off?

      2) I've seen the nice DVD AC3 release, and yes, it does happen at the same time, from the same direction as the ship's EMP entrance.

      Third, why would it incapacitate him?

      3) Bane(the guy Agent Smith took over) was also knocked out by the EMP blast. I can only guess that they both share the same quality.

      Face it, Neo did stop those sentinals. Basically the entire reason we're all going to see the next one is to see how.

      That is the point of a cliffhanger and a conclusion.

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  4. God by govtcheez · · Score: 4, Funny

    As if most slashdot members didn't have a bad enough case of office ass...

  5. Re:Any Idea by jmays · · Score: 4, Informative

    Check out this Slashdot article.

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  6. Slashdotted already by Chaltek · · Score: 4, Informative

    Before any king can return, New Line Cinema will re-release of the first two "Lord of the Rings" pics worldwide, this time with additional scenes and footage added.

    Just two weeks before the Dec. 17 release of "The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King" -- the final installment of the Peter Jackson-helmed epic trilogy -- the first two "Ring" entries will be unspooling worldwide.

    In memoranda sent to exhibitors on Wednesday, New Line laid out a game plan to promote the third film by refreshing filmgoers' memories with "The Fellowship of the Ring" and "The Two Towers."

    Plan calls for putting the films on 100-150 screens in top 10 U.S. markets. Many other U.S. cities will have one cinema participating in the special extended edition screenings. Running times for the extended editions are 208 minutes for "Fellowship of the Ring" and 214 minutes for "The Two Towers."

    Advanced ticket sales are scheduled to begin in late September or early October on exhibitor Web sites and movie ticketing sites like Fandango, MovieFone and Movietickets.com.

    "The release of the third film affords us a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to give audiences a compelling new theatrical experience of Peter Jackson's sprawling vision for this trilogy," said Rolf Mittweg, prexy and chief operating officer for worldwide distribution and marketing.

    The cost, one New Line insider estimated, will be between $10 million and $15 million. Due to the extended length of the new prints, the move is being cast as a promotional tool rather than a moneymaker.

    "It is important to note," the memo says, "that these events are produced as a marketing/publicity stunt and not as a revenue generating opportunity" and that media support will be limited largely to the Internet and participating theaters.

    Starting the week of Dec. 5, the extended DVD cut of "Fellowship of the Ring" will be released in some 100 or so theaters in the U.S. and in 20 theaters in Canada.

    Then, the week of Dec. 12, sequel "Two Towers" will unspool, just a month after having preemed on DVD, leading up to a worldwide Dec. 16 daylong marathon, during which all three films will be shown back-to-back. Exhib guidelines call for a 3 p.m. showing of "Fellowship" followed by a 7 p.m. screening of "Two Towers" and then an 11 p.m. screening of "Return of the King," which will carry over into Dec. 17 -- the day of its global release.

    Overseas, it's not yet clear whether all exhibs will be showing the new footage-added prints of the previous "Rings" pics. According to one New Line insider, the decision is being left to exhibs, which will make their requests known to New Line in the next few weeks.

    Italy and Japan will not immediately be included in the foreign promotional blitz. Italo comedies dominate that country around the holidays, and corporate sibling Warner Bros. will be carpeting Japan with the next "Harry Potter" pic. Triad of "Rings" pics will instead screen in January in Italy and February in Japan.

    "King" is produced by Barrie M. Osborne, Fran Walsh and Jackson, with a screenplay by Walsh & Philippa Boyens and Jackson, based on the book by J.R.R. Tolkien.

    1. Re:Slashdotted already by Nomen · · Score: 5, Informative

      It's no longer slashdotted - so if people feel like reading the article on our site, at least we'll get some advertising revenue to pay for the rest of the /.ing bandwidth.... - co-sysadmin of TORn

  7. Call me a pawn of 'the man', but . . . by Jack+William+Bell · · Score: 4, Funny

    Call me a pawn of 'the man', but I will be there in the theaters for both of them. The military-entertainment complex will thank me, but my bladder won't.

    Three and half hours... Why don't they have intermissions anymore?

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  8. Theaters. by hirebrand · · Score: 5, Informative

    Just to be clear, these are being released in the theaters. Not on VHS / DVD, which was my immediate thought.

    Plan calls for putting the films on 100-150 screens in top 10 U.S. markets. Many other U.S. cities will have one cinema participating in the special extended edition screenings. Running times for the extended editions are 208 minutes for "Fellowship of the Ring" and 214 minutes for "The Two Towers."
  9. FoxTrot by ceswiedler · · Score: 5, Funny

    Reminds me of an old Foxtrot cartoon....

    The sister asks her kid brother and his friend where they are going. They say they're going to watch 3 Star Wars movies. She says, "All three? back-to-back?" They reply, "No, all three...three times in a row."

  10. My only... by paranode · · Score: 5, Funny
    Tricksters New Lines... they's trying to sell my precious again... we not likes them....

    My only... my precious...

  11. All in one? by mansa · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I've heard Tolkien originally wanted the three series into one large book. The title of this submission "The Trilogy as One" got me thinking. I wonder if they'll splice all three movies together when the next generation DVD comes out. Then you could take it all in as JRR intended. Sure, it'd be a marathon... but I think lots of geeks would dig it.

    1. Re:All in one? by Universal+Nerd · · Score: 4, Interesting

      As far as I can remember, (it's been a while) the original title was "The Fall of the Lord of the Rings and the Return of the King".

      Sound familiar? It should be, it's the title of the Red Book that Frodo leaves with Sam at the Grey Havens.

      The sublty of this moment, slighty smudged by the fact that the book is divided in 3, is, to me, the greatest of the whole story... I was not reading a book written by J.R.R. Tolkien, I was reading a book started by Bilbo Baggins then by Frodo with Peregrin Took, Samwise Gamee and Meriadoc Brandybuck and later translated by Mr. Tolkien.

      I always shudder at that point in the story when, yet again, I realize that the story is a tale of a quest performed by the bold little people of the Shire.

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  12. Re:Any Idea by EvanED · · Score: 4, Informative

    You obviously missed the Fellowship expanded version then; the new scenes *greatly* enhanced the storyline, especially for someone who hadn't read the books.

  13. Bring a bedpan and pack a lunch by RumpRoast · · Score: 4, Funny

    Man that theatre is going to smell bad. Dec 16th = Smelly LOTR day.

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  14. a guess by prichardson · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm going to take a wild guess and say that New Line is going to release the ultra mega super insane LOTR pack about a year after LOTR:ROTK comes out. I am waiting until then to buy the dvd. This dvd will contain all the full length movies and a huge stack of extras. They might even throw in a big full color map or something like that. It will probably be unbearable expensive, too.

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  15. Food? by chill · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm NOT gonna survive on theater popcorn, hotdogs and mega-jumbo Cokes for 11 hours. I hope they have intermissions between the films so we can hit the mall food court...

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    1. Re:Food? by sehryan · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'm NOT gonna survive on theater popcorn, hotdogs and mega-jumbo Cokes for 11 hours. I hope they have intermissions between the films so we can hit the mall food court...

      So you can pick up a greasy burger, salty fries, and a mega-jumbo coke instead?

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  16. Re:Any Idea by theefer · · Score: 4, Informative

    I don't know, but I had the chance to see (and got my book signed by ;-)) John Howe in Geneva earlier this year. Well amongst an awful lot of interesting things, he said he had seen (all or part of?) the new scenes that would form the extended version, and he totally loved it. He added they really pushed the movie to a new standard, even making it look like a new movie. The new footages is 42 minutes long.

    Besides this, he addressed interesting issues (people could ask questions) like the presence of Elves in Helm's Deep and such other things. He answered really calmly and smartly, with precise and interesting arguments.

    I really doubt PJ could even manage to do a bad movie with RotK after having seen the two other ones, but I can't wait to find out. And I'm sure I'm not alone in this.

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  17. Re:Milking the Cow by dontspellsogood · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So? New Line was forward thinking enough to take a leap of faith and let Jackson film all three at once (with obvious benefits to the viewers). Why not let them reap the rewards of their big millions gamble (it could have flopped. big.)

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  18. In other news... by OneIsNotPrime · · Score: 3, Funny

    catheter sales expected to rise 1200% for the month of December.

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  19. It's an outrage! by ChuckleBug · · Score: 4, Funny

    How DARE you express such an opinion! I flame thee, sir! Feel my flame! I liked the movies and will not tolerate your going on a PUBLIC forum and having the UNMITIGATED GALL to state a difference in taste! Flame! Take that! And that!

    FLAME FLAME FLAME

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  20. how to avoid the bathroom while watching the movie by frankmu · · Score: 4, Funny

    teach your self how to self catheterize your self during the movie

    http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/ 00 3972.htm

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  21. Yes, oh, yes by mckwant · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Complete concurrance. I can't make it through the books. I've tried three times, and I always get bored/apathetic/annoyed after they leave the mushroom farmer guy for another 100 pages of trail walking.

    The first movie felt very true to the books. Long, dull, lots of walking and hiding. To paraphrase John Goodman in Barton Fink, my butt was sore after the first 45 minutes.

    The second movie (to which I was drug by my wife) was actually quite good, IMHO. I'd highly recommend it to anyone. The Gollum/Smegiel (sp?) sequences have to be seen to be believed.

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  22. It's the format by ShieldW0lf · · Score: 3, Interesting

    They never should have made the movies. If they wanted to bring it to the screen, they should have done it in a series format. 1hr * 52wks * 3yrs would have given plenty of time to do the books justice...

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    1. Re:It's the format by Arandir · · Score: 4, Funny

      August 22nd, 8:00pm PST: "The Fellowship of the Ring"

      In tonight's episode, Aragorn relates the tale of Tinuviel to Frodo, as the other hobbits sleep. Insider scoop: according to New Line Television, the actual Tinuviel backstory was filmed, but due to protests by geeks it was dropped in favor of a true-to-book one hour narration by Viggo Mortensen.

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    2. Re:It's the format by Dirtside · · Score: 3, Informative

      LOTR begins when Frodo is 33 and Bilbo is 111. The first chapter concerns with their joint birthday party and Bilbo's departure from the Shire.

      Fast-forward 17 years, to when Frodo is 50 and Bilbo is 128. Gandalf shows up in the *spring*, tells Frodo all about the One Ring, and then says, I'll be back by fall (of 3018).

      The hobbits have their adventures and return to the Shire around November 1st of the *following* year (3019). Then there's a handful more pages, and in 3021, Frodo, Bilbo, and the Three Keepers (Gandalf, Elrond, Galadriel) leave Middle-Earth. Sam returns home shortly thereafter, and *that's* when LOTR ends. Technically, the book encompasses a bit over 20 years, although the bulk of the action occurs within a span of about a year and a half.

      <pedantic mode=off>

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  23. Re:Milking the Cow by fireduck · · Score: 4, Informative

    As the article points out, this is not meant to be an attempt to generate revenue, but merely a promotional tool.

    Releasing 3+ hour long movies in 3 successive weeks in few select theatres with little fanfaire (at least according to the article) doesn't sound like over-exposure. Sounds more like a treat for the fans.

    As for a 10 hour movie, while that certainly would be interesting, it would a) involve lots of work by jackson et al. to interweave the films (rather than simply playing back to back) and b) would be expensive as hell. (as two sets of different prints would have to be sent out to the theatres, depending if they were showing ROTK or the entire trilogy movie, or both if they having two different sets.) and c) would be financially disasterous for the movie theaters. (as a 10 hour movie for the price of one, means they are losing admission on at least 2 to 4 films).

    As for other arguments regarding milking the cow, New Line and Jackson have ALL along stated that each DVD would be released as a theatrical and an extended edition. True fans who wanted both could buy both, others could pick which one to get. as I recall, there were even signs up at the stores (or stickers on the dvd) when FOTR came out reminding people that the extended version was still to be released.

  24. I predict... by NanoGator · · Score: 4, Funny

    ... that 9 months from December, we'll see a sharp decline in the number of babies born.

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  25. Maybe a Rant, but... by greymond · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm so glad I didn't buy any of the DVD's for the LOTR trilogy, just because I feel really bad for all the fans who have a "sucky" version or have spent tons of cash on all the different versions of the dvd's. Because of this i'm just gonna wait till the summer after ROTK to buy whatever becomes the "almost-most-fulfilling-3-dvd-set-of-themoment" then at least i'll have all 3 and of only paid one price instead of owning 6 versions of each of the first movies AND the trilogy as a set.

  26. Re:how to avoid the bathroom while watching the mo by IthnkImParanoid · · Score: 4, Funny

    Wow, how long have you been saving that link for an opportunity to get a +5 funny?

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  27. Re:1st post by Nept · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Actually ...
    Sauron Defeated (book 9 of the history of middle earth) contains drafts of JRR Tolkien's planned
    "Epilogue" to LotR. "The Peoples of Middle-earth", Vol 12 of HoMe, contains drafts of a planned sequel, "The New Shadow".
    So there actually sort of was a book 4.

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  28. Re:Any Idea by EvilNight · · Score: 4, Informative

    For those too lazy to click a few links. ;)

    - Extended opening, in which the hobbits scale a cliff face using the rope Galadriel gave Sam, including a better build-up to the arrival of Gollum.

    - More friction between the Uruk-Hai and the Orcs as they transport Merry and Pippin back to Isengard, which better sets up the fight over food that takes place later.

    - More scenes of Saruman breeding his army, creating better pacing as the invasion of Rohan begins

    - Terrific scene in which Eomer finds the body of Theodred, Theodens son.

    - Additional scenes with Merry and Pippin, including extensions to existing Treebeard scenes and the Ent Draught sequence, in which the hobbits grow. In another scene, Treebeards soporific poetry works its magic.

    - Theodreds funeral scene, with Eowyn singing a lament.

    - A wonderful introduction to Aragorns horse Brego, who we learn was Theodreds horse. Aragorn requests Brego be set free, which places his later rescue in better context.

    - Additional scenes between Eowyn and Aragorn, including one in which he attempts to eat a bowl of evil-looking stew.

    - More scenes between Gandalf, Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli, which expand upon the films politics (including the union between the two towers Gandalf scene from the trailer, though that line is missing from what I can remember).

    - More of Sarumans musings, setting up themes that will be explored in The Return of the King.

    - Flashback to the circumstances surrounding Boromir being sent to Rivendell for the Council of Elrond, taking place during the re-taking of Osgiliath by the Gondorian army. This sequence briefly introduces John Noble as Denethor, a major character in The Return of the King. I was worried this sequence would seem like an indulgence, but its difficult to imagine the film without it; not only is the character of Faramir, much maligned by fans of the book, given added depth, so too is Boromir enriched by this addition.

    - Just before the Ents storming of Isengard, the Huorns mobilise and leave to attend to business elsewhere; they reappear at Helms Deep to kill the Uruk-Hai as they flee.

    - New ending, with Merry and Pippin finding a larder at Isengard, including two barrels of pipe-weed; a hilarious scene in which Gimli and Legolas compare their scores after the battle of Helms Deep; Frodo, Sam and Gollum are shown the way out of Osgiliath by Faramir, who threatens Gollum; theres even a brief moment in which Sam and Gollum appear to make peace.

    - Along with all these major additions, many more scenes are subtly extended to give more information or reinforce themes already present.

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