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Samsung Yepp YP-55V Review

daanger0us writes "RAM based MP3 players are still pretty popular. As hard drive based MP3 players get larger storage capacity, the RAM based MP3 players have to add new features to keep themselves compelling to customers. The Samsung Yepp YP-55V is one of the RAM based MP3 players that's added some pretty cool features at a reasonable price. 256MB of RAM, FM Tuner, ability to record from a line-in, from the FM Tuner and voice recording, USB Drive capabilities, upgradeable firmware, weighing in at 2.2 ounces all for around $160. Designtechnica has a full review. How many people still consider a RAM based audio player when shopping?" Update: 09/03 22:11 GMT by T : That should be "MB," not "MG" as it originally read.

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  1. CD based MP3 players by Brahmastra · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I still prefer CD based MP3 players. The media is cheap, and the the player is cheap.

    1. Re:CD based MP3 players by Ugodown · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I am always presented with the problem of organization with MP3 CDs. With so much on one disk, I don't know where to look for what I want, and I get an 'information overload feeling'.

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    2. Re:CD based MP3 players by Unregistered · · Score: 2, Insightful

      true, and a cheap RAM based player compliments it nicely for the gym.

    3. Re:CD based MP3 players by lokedhs · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The iRiver players (I'm a happy owner of the IMP-400) has at least 180 seconds of shake-buffer. I've never had a problem with shaking.

    4. Re:CD based MP3 players by oscarcar · · Score: 4, Funny

      I was going to say the same thing. Who wants a couple of pounds slamming against your side when you are exercising? Do you really take your ipod with you when you go jogging, or what have you.

      Then I thought... Oh wait, this is slashdot. Never mind.

    5. Re:CD based MP3 players by Chris+Burke · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That's why you get a CD mp3 player that supports "directories", a convenient method that allows a hierarchical organization of files. You know, like Artist/Album/track#-Name.mp3.

      This works great on my Rio Volt, which lets you easily move up and down through the directories, and even has neat things like "directory shuffle" or "Album shuffle" where it randomly selects a directory and plays the songs in order. The track#-name.mp3 keeps the name short so it mostly shows up on the small LCD display when scanning tracks quickly, and fixes problems I had with really long filenames.

      Anyway, organizing a CD shouldn't be any harder than organizing a lot of mp3s on your computer's hard disk.

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    6. Re:CD based MP3 players by Pieroxy · · Score: 2, Informative

      I own an aiwa z3c player (8cm CDs) and have had so far no problem with sound getting jumpy. There is a reasonnable buffer (120 seconds approx) and the CD is still most of the time. That also increase the battery life (12 hours with one set of battery, 24 hours with two set - you can add an extra set)

      It is also pretty small (fit on the back pocket of my jeans).

      Media is .50$ apiece and stores ~200MB.

      I would buy the same one again if I had to buy one. Oh, and I got it for $50 at Fry's Electronics. Try and beat that!

    7. Re:CD based MP3 players by MemRaven · · Score: 2, Interesting
      You really only need enough storage space for one track, I suppose. I've got an iRiver MP3/CD player, and much like the Rio Volt, what it does is spin up the CD drive, buffer what basically amounts to a whole song (more if you're doing Track Order on the iRiver), and then stop it. So it only even tries to use the CD player in between songs.

      But I've never tried to use it while jogging. That's what I've got my Yepp (old-skool "Hip Hop" model, which is damn near indestructable) for.

    8. Re:CD based MP3 players by Vermifax · · Score: 2, Interesting

      FYI, thats 180 seconds of Audio CD shake buffer. Its like 8 megs of ram, or 480 seconds of MP3 shake buffer. Quite frequently the disk will stop spinning and it plays from the buffer.

      The guy above who said 'they can't hardly take much shaking' doesn't know what he was talking about.

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    9. Re:CD based MP3 players by Sven+The+Space+Monke · · Score: 2, Interesting
      I can assure anyone out there, this guy is as right as you can get. My brother has that model, and uses it while driving via tape adapter. Last January, he got us in a SERIOUS acident. Launched the car about 20 meters off a highway divider (we were going FAST....). This was one of those accidents where the cops showed up and asked (I mean it - they really asked this) "How the fuck did you guys survive this?". They've seen accidents like this before, and historically, they use shovels to get the victims into the ambulance. Anyway, the iRivier didn't skip a beat, despite being launched into the windshiled. The car was totaled, BTW. Damage estimates were about 30-40k. The whole thing was bent into a U-shape.

      Word of advice - if you ever find yourself in an accident like that, GO LIMP. Let go of the wheel, let Newton take control. If you fight him, he'll kill ya. And pray you land right side up. Oh, and don't forget to enjoy the ride, 'cuz that's gonna be the ONLY fun part.

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  2. Jogging by rf0 · · Score: 4, Informative

    I still consider ram baed stuff for when I want something like that won't mind getting bounced around a bit. I can't help but think a hard disk based player (which is heavier) reacts well to being bounced up and down all its life...

    Also RAM based can have quicker access although there is the obvious loss of storage. Now if there was a CF based player...

    Rus

    1. Re:Jogging by El+Pollo+Loco · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Size matters too. When I run, and when I lift, I don't even want something the size of a CD on my arm(forget the waist!). The solid state mp3 players are generally smaller. And won't skip. And won't jostle a hard drive. Even for just lifting, hard disks can take some abuse.

    2. Re:Jogging by kazrak · · Score: 2, Informative

      There are several CF-based players on the market. Even discounting the RCA Lyras with their RIAA-happifying encryption, there's the Nex, the Diva, and the Moveman.

    3. Re:Jogging by Dragoon412 · · Score: 2, Informative

      I agree. For working out, I don't want to be hauling around a comparitively large and heavy MP3 player.

      I have an older Samsung YP-33 that's RAM-based, and I adore it. It's very small, leight-weight, and came with a handful of accessories like a cradle/arm band, and short headphone wires. I'll admit, that at only 64MB (it's ~2 years old, now), I often wish I had more memory, but to be honest, I have over 300 CDs, and while I could easily have 20 gigs worth of MP3s, there are only a few hundred songs I actually listen to, and they're easily and quickly transferred to the player.

      Besides, 64MB is just enough music to cover my usual jog or trip to the gym, so I can't complain.

    4. Re:Jogging by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Informative
      Now if there was a CF based player...

      Uhhh...

      1. Daisy Diva
      2. assorted I-Jam players
      3. i-Play Moveman
      4. Merit MP2000
      5. Precom DC-530 (Okay so it's really a camera)
      6. Simply Sonic SMP-200D
      7. RCA Lyra

      Did you even try looking on compactflash.org?

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    5. Re:Jogging by Kazymyr · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Except that you can't buy these anywhere. They were all either "concept" devices that never made it to mass production, or if they did there was a limited batch and then they were retired. So unless you head for eBay, you're stuck.

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    6. Re:Jogging by abischof · · Score: 2, Informative

      The Nex IIe from Frontier Labs is a real prodcut, and it supports both CompactFlash Type I & II (such as IBM's Microdrive). Then again, it doesn't support Ogg (yet?), so that's why I'm not buying one ;).

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  3. Don't knock it.... by JoeLinux · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Hard Drive-based technology is still rather klunky for the gym. Ultra-small Ram-based systems can provide enough music for one work-out.

    I know, a geek that goes to they gym. Amazing, huh? No, I don't have a girlfriend. I still don't think that those mythical girl-creatures exist. I think it's just a dirty trick those jocks play on us.

  4. iPod Looms by blackmonday · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The iPod can be bought for 200 bucks refurbed (10 gig previous generation...10 GIG!) Why would I get this for 40 bucks less? Radio and Voice recording would be a welcome addition to future iPods though.

    I'm in the market right now, and the Rio SP250 wins over this one too. CD Based, larger, but with integrated FM and 700 megabyte CDR capacity.

    1. Re:iPod Looms by weg · · Score: 2, Insightful

      There are several issues regarding the iPod. First, it has a built in battery, and therefore the iPod has sort of an expiration date. Second, this built in battery lasts only 8 hours (my iRiver FP380 lasts for over 20 hours). You can't record MP3s with your iPod (my FP380 can). And the iPods harddisk is more damageable than Flash RAM. Not to mention the size.. in my opinion the iPod is the most expensive hardisk I've ever seen.

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  5. How many people still consider a FLASH player? by default+luser · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I did, and I bought one.

    My Creative Labs MuVo is not only a good mp3/wma player, but was also one of the first to function as a convenient USB drive. Why the hell would I have paid $75 for a 128MB flash drive a year back when I could have both for $150?

    Obviously, this concept is catching on and prices are dropping, so anyone who is even considering USB drive who doesn't already own a portable music player should be interested.

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  6. A Mega-Gyte by MikeD83 · · Score: 3, Funny

    256 MG of RAM

    Yes, this product certainly does distinguish itself. I've never seen a product containing 256 Megagytes of memory!

    1. Re:A Mega-Gyte by mph · · Score: 2, Funny
      I've never seen a product containing 256 Megagytes of memory!
      It was perfectly clear to me that this product produces a magnetic field of 256,000,000 gauss. I'd get one, but I wouldn't be able to keep my credit cards anywhere near it.
  7. 256 MB is enough for anybody! by mr.henry · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Seriously though, the iPod and new harddrive based players like the Toshiba Gigabeat are amazingly tiny and crush the RAM based players in GB/$ comparisons.

    For RAM based players too be tempting, they're going to have to get way cheaper and sexier. $160 for 256 MB is not hot at all.

  8. Meh by SargeZT · · Score: 2, Informative

    Adding bells and whistles to something dosen't make it better, only bulkier. I'll take my 64mb Rio500 over this new one any day. I mean, come on, who want's an FM Radio in there MP3 Player? Not me atleast. Same with a voice recorder. I have a real recorder, and I guarantee you the sound quality is considerable better. My 00000010 Cents.

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  9. Me! Me! by HungWeiLo · · Score: 2, Funny

    The Samsung Yepp YP-55V is one of the RAM based MP3 players that's added some pretty cool features at a reasonable price. 256 MG of RAM...How many people still consider a RAM based audio player when shopping?"

    You bet your ass someone will consider that for $160!

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  10. iPods don't by Flamesplash · · Score: 2, Interesting

    iPods don't seem to care about movement at all. I'm really amazed though. People jog with them.

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  11. Minidisc is the way to go. by Jason1729 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    At 256 meg, this mp3 player's capacity is about the same as a single minidisc, but it's not expandable. Minidiscs cost under $2 each, and the files can be re-arranged on them like with an mp3 player. The battery life on a minidisc player is better than the yepp player too which doesn't make sense since the yepp doesn't have to power a motor. A CD based mp3 player is much larger than a minidisc player (even if it's designed for the 8cm CDs), and the battery life is terrible.

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  12. Really? by bshort404 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    They still make these?

    I have to occasionally make a hard decision on what to include on my iPod. But usually it's between keeping every Magnetic Fields' song or switching to carrying every Beatles song. Ever.

    I get bored to easily to ever carry around a player that only has 256 megs.

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  13. Neuros by cureless · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Without RTFA I can say, why not the Neuros? Albeit a bit bigger you can swap in the hard drive module and voila. You also get the ability to transmit FM and song identification, not to mention support for Ogg and Linux via positron.

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  14. RAM? by interiot · · Score: 4, Informative
    Very few (if any) MP3 players store MP3's in RAM, as it requires constant battery power to keep data in memory.

    More likely, the submitter meant "flash memory" which is typically used to store mostly static data over long periods of time.

    I wouldn't nitpick, but he repeated the word "RAM" so many times that I was forced to post this.

    1. Re:RAM? by madcow_ucsb · · Score: 2, Informative

      non-volatile and RAM are not mutually exclusive.

      No, it's not DRAM or SRAM, or any other volatile memory, but it's still a random-access memory, is it not?

  15. No moving parts by stratjakt · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Anyone who seriously uses a walkman type of device can see this as the major selling point. I'm talking about joggers, cyclists, hell even people riding the subway.

    No moving parts = wont break or wear out (yeah they will but not on the scale that their mechanical cousins will).

    Now an FM tuner has always been, to me, one of those useless electronic things that gets integrated into everything because it's easy to do so. FM reception on old-school tape-based walkmans has always been terrible - unless you sit still and hold the cord 'just so'.

    Anyways, I'd have thought you could get 256mb solid state mp3 player for well under 100 bucks by now. Guess I was wrong, or there's something special about this device, like its record button. Does it have a playback-only cousin for, say, 50 bucks?

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  16. All those features... by questamor · · Score: 4, Funny

    256 MG of RAM, FM Tuner, ability to record from a line-in, from the FM Tuner and voice recording, USB Drive capabilities, upgradeable firmware, weighing in at 2.2 ounces all for around $160

    All those features and 256 milligrams of RAM!

    and I thought my cigarettes with 8mg tar were strong.

  17. HD Alternative... by riordan · · Score: 2

    If you have the money for a HD player but don't want one b/c you need a player for running, small pockets, etc. the Panasonic SV AV series ( $400) has some pretty nifty features such as a camdcorder, digital camera, 2" LCD, and an AV cradle for recording TV shows. Sony also has some cool multi-use devices but are quite a bit more expensive.

  18. It is pretty sweet. by Sleeper · · Score: 4, Informative

    I know this one. I just bought it as a present for my girlfriend. It is pretty cool. And she likes it a lot.

    I was considering getting an iPod for her. But every time when I decide to deal with Apple I always come to painful realisation that I just hate their attitude. They have this dumbass business strategy that only they know what you really need and they determined to shove it down your throat. I don't want to troll on them. Apple has really cool products, they have good engineers and designers. But at the same time they always try to sell you the most expensive one. Here in Bay Area it is impossible to find 10 GB version of iPod. All BestBuys and Fried electronics have only 30 GB versions (for extra $200) and I don't have 30 GB of mp3s even on my home computer (which is also a home entertainment center). Come to think of it I don't even have that many CDs yet to rip to fill this much space.

    So I settled on Yepp. And I'm pretty happy. It is very sleek. Very good sound. You can actually change sound modes. Plus FM radio. Plus record your own stuff. 256 MB is almost enough for my gf. I guess when there will be version with more memory outhere. I'll get new one for her and take the old one.

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    1. Re:It is pretty sweet. by gwernol · · Score: 3, Insightful

      But every time when I decide to deal with Apple I always come to painful realisation that I just hate their attitude. They have this dumbass business strategy that only they know what you really need and they determined to shove it down your throat. I don't want to troll on them. Apple has really cool products, they have good engineers and designers. But at the same time they always try to sell you the most expensive one. Here in Bay Area it is impossible to find 10 GB version of iPod. All BestBuys and Fried electronics have only 30 GB versions (for extra $200)

      That's unfair. Its the retailers that decide which models to carry, not the manufacturer. I'd guess that the retailer margin is higher on the larger models, which is why Best Buy et al. don't stock the low end models. Don't blame Apple, blame the retailers.

      You could always order a 10GB model online if your local store doesn't stock them. I bought my wife an iPod at CompUSA in San Francisco- they stock all three models.

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  19. Agreed on working out and jogging.. however... by mindstrm · · Score: 2

    Just how big and clunky do you think an iPod is? If you saw the first or second versions of the iPod, you should look again at the newest ones.. they are much smaller.

    My ipod is like, the size of a pack of colts. Slightly thinner, and slightly longer than a deck of playing cards... it fits in a shirt pocket just fine. It's not heavy, either.

    Now, I'm not saying it is as rugged or tiny as a solid state player, as I said.. but "big and clunky" is definately not a word I'd use to describe it.

    Let's face it though, we're talking about two different markets...

    solid state players are what you use to load up a few tunes, and go listen.. like carrying around a discman or walkman. Sure it holds a few more songs.. but it's the same niche.

    The hard drive players are akin to carrying around a discman and a backpack full of cds, except in this case, the difference is a few ounces, dollars, and inches.

  20. I'll tell you what the problem is: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Moving parts. That is one of the biggest problems with the MD player, i.e. it has way too many of them. My MD player broke over a simple mechanical defect, but one that was cost prohibitive to repair. RAM based players make this much more difficult to happen.

    Also I dunno about that capacity you quoted. I remember getting CD-comparable storage, with PERHAPS the option to lower quality for slightly more time (I really dont remember), but nowhere NEAR what you could put on 256MB.

    MDs were great when they were first available. But with RELIABLE mini-hd based units, and cheap often-expandable RAM based systems (flash cards anyone?), MDs are past their prime in terms of usefulness

    1. Re:I'll tell you what the problem is: by tetro · · Score: 2, Interesting

      NetMD sucks the big one. Try using their OpenMG software and tell me that you've never had it crash. The upload and download restrictions totally killed the chance for NetMD to become big. Especially when the program crashes and you have 1 less checkout because of that, NetMD seems like a piece of trash compared to an Ipod. If it had better software and did not have any upload or download restrictions, NetMD would have killed the memory based MP3 players. Anyone remembers those radio and tv ads that referred to a NetMD as an MP3 player?

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  21. They still break by WotanKhan · · Score: 2, Informative
    I've purchased about one flash mp3 player a year or so since the first Rio came out. Three rio's, the short-lived intel pocketconcert, and two Bantam BA-350's (great player). They tend to last me about a year to two years and then begin shorting out.

    I wind up disassembling them to figure out what went wrong when they start shorting out.. Its usually one of the following:
    -Moisture damage (I'm a heavy gym and running user, sweat drips down the headphone cord)
    -Breakage from repetitive tweaking of the headphone cord
    -Breakage from dropping. Drop them on a hard surface and you have about a 50% chance it will survive.

    Never had a hard-drive based player, and it probably wouldn't last more than a month for me.

  22. Inaccuracy pissing me off by Soong · · Score: 2

    The article submitter didn't even RTFA. The specs clearly state 256 MB FLASH.

    Or, the article submitter is too ignorant to know the difference between RAM and FLASH. Like those older newbies who ask "how much memory" does a computer have, and they mean disk space. I mean, yeah, disk, RAM, flash, cache, are all forms of "memory" if you mean generic computer storage, but that's just not how we talk about these things.

    The Slashdot maintainer who let this drivel through should be modded down. Damnit, I have mod points. How can I mod the story down?!?

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