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Telstar 4 is Down

An anonymous reader writes "Sometime this morning (Sept. 19) Telstar 4 had a major onboard failure. I just checked a few minutes ago and there are CW carriers up on 11700 MHz V & 12200 MHz H, so the spacecraft would appear to still be in its orbital slot - just no traffic. The Loral Skynet site has no mention of this yet, but supposedly Telstar 8 was already scheduled to replace T4, so they may just speed the process up. This turn of events will no doubt be of some small concern to Intelsat, who recently agreed to purchase most of Loral's US domestic fleet, including T4."

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  1. I'm as stumped as my girlfriend usually is by linuxbaby · · Score: 5, Funny

    My girlfriend always told me that when I talk tech with fellow tech-heads I make no sense at all.

    "It's hard for me to believe it's even English you're speaking. I don't recognize any of the words."

    Reading this Slashdot post just made me understand what she means.

    It's like a bad sci-fi screenplay!

    (Telstar? CW carriers? 11700 MHz V & 12200 MHz H? orbital slot? Intelsat? Loral's US domestic fleet?)

    1. Re:I'm as stumped as my girlfriend usually is by Merk · · Score: 5, Funny

      I think it's a satellite.

      Either that or an old TV show.

      Or maybe the aliens are invading.

      Now I wonder if this story was accepted because a) it sounded real tech-like, b) the person who accepted knows what the submitter is talking about, c) the random number generator was less than 0.01, d) Cowboy Neal.

      But one thing's for sure, as it stands, the story has yet to answer the all-important questions: "How does this affect me, and why should I care?"

    2. Re:I'm as stumped as my girlfriend usually is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      My girlfriend always told me that when I talk tech with fellow tech-heads I make no sense at all.


      Given the past tense, I am assuming she left you for the article submitter who is apparently even more of a pathetic slobbering geek than you were? Truly the submitter is the alpha male of slobbering geeks!

    3. Re:I'm as stumped as my girlfriend usually is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      I'm not a satellite geek, but you'd think every well rounded person would know ...

      Telstar = satellite
      CW = carrier wave
      117000 MHz etc = frequencies
      orbital slot = where Telstart lives. In orbit. You know ... up there?

    4. Re:I'm as stumped as my girlfriend usually is by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 5, Funny
      It's like a bad sci-fi screenplay!

      It was a typical Friday at Telstar control: slow. McMurray was at the main console. He was idly thinking about which sandwiches he was going to pick up at Subway on the way home for the family.

      Suddenly, an alarm light flashed. McMurray looked at the status screen, and it took a moment to sink in. Telstar 4 had just gone down. "Strange", he thought. "I've never seen a bird go offline just like that."

      He punched a few commands to try to contact the satellite, but got no response. He muttered under his breath "It's going to be a long night."

      Ok, first things first. He e-mailed his wife to tell her he'd wouldn't be getting dinner after all. He fired off an anonymous story submission about the situation to Slashdot.

      At this point, it still looked like a simple electronic failure. There was no hint of impending disaster; no indication of what might happen to the planet in a few short hours. Nobody on earth noticed the tiny deep violet pinpoint that was just now becoming detectable over the northern rim of the full moon. A few bored geeks on Slashdot posted some lame jokes about the Telstar 4 story.

      McMurray was just about to reroute the command channel to the eastern uplink station when the entire control center suddenly went black. He sat in stunned silence for a few seconds, then the shockwave hit...

      [ To read the rest of this bad screenplay, you must have a premium membership. Log on now to continue. ]

    5. Re:I'm as stumped as my girlfriend usually is by Ignominious+Cow+Herd · · Score: 2, Funny

      You forgot "Where shall we have lunch?"

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    6. Re:I'm as stumped as my girlfriend usually is by wfberg · · Score: 4, Funny

      "It's hard for me to believe it's even English you're speaking. I don't recognize any of the words."

      Reading this Slashdot post just made me understand what she means.


      Telstart 4 heeft vanmorgen (19 september) een interne storing gehad. Ik heb het een paar minuten geleden gecontroleerd, en er zijn nog draaggolven op 11.7Ghz verticaal en 12.1 Ghz horizontaal, dus de satelliet hangt nog in zijn baan om de aarde, alleen er is geen signaal te bekennen. Op de webpagina's van Loral Skynet staat nog geen aankondiging, maar Telstar 4 stond toch al op de nominatie om vervangen te worden door Telstar 8, dus misschien versnellen ze die uitrol. Intelsat zal zich dit nieuws zeker aantrekken, aangezien ze laatst overeengekomen met Loral om het grootste deel van hun satellieten die boven de VS hangen over te nemen, waaronder deze.

      Is that better?

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    7. Re:I'm as stumped as my girlfriend usually is by kdart · · Score: 3, Funny

      Oh, no, no, no! Skynet is the uber-AI network that is plotting the demise of humanity! Telstar 8 is a pre-cursor of the Terminator series, and the T4 is the new, latest, Terminator class to replace it.

      Got it? ;-)

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    8. Re:I'm as stumped as my girlfriend usually is by aardvarkjoe · · Score: 3, Funny
      [ To read the rest of this bad screenplay, you must have a premium membership. Log on now to continue. ]

      For this, subscribing to slashdot might almost be worthwhile.
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    9. Re:I'm as stumped as my girlfriend usually is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Set SLE to AUX. That should take care of it. Next!

    10. Re:I'm as stumped as my girlfriend usually is by torpor · · Score: 2, Funny

      For this, subscribing to slashdot might almost be worthwhile.

      Why bother? He published the source to the first version, we'll just fork it:


      He sat in stunned silence for a few seconds, then the shockwave hit... ... his pants fom the egg-salad sandwich he'd forgotten he'd scoffed on the toilet the afternoon before. A typical Thursday (or Tuesday, for that matter).

      Looking around the room, satellite losses and alien invasion fantasies suddenly violently forgotten, McWassename spied the only possible option for the diversion of his ...


      ah, whatever. You get the point...

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  2. my guess ... by Dreadlord · · Score: 1, Funny

    ... is that it has something to do with Isabel.

    j/k

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    1. Re:my guess ... by geekoid · · Score: 4, Funny

      that would be a hell of a hurricane if its damaging satalites!

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  3. T2 Armageddon Averted? by ksuMacGyver · · Score: 3, Funny

    Loral Skynet site has no mention of this yet, but supposedly Telstar 8 was already scheduled to replace T4 Already at the T4? Did I miss the T2?

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  4. Wifi devices ! by chrysalis · · Score: 3, Funny

    Guys, please stop playing with your Wifi devices.
    See the results...

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  5. A major crisis! by mercuryresearch · · Score: 5, Funny

    This is a crisis of earth-shattering proportions for many.

    One of Telstar 4's nicknames in the industry is "nookiesat" -- as it carries several of the leading porn channels in the US. :-)

    1. Re:A major crisis! by Xzisted · · Score: 1, Funny

      Slashdot Collective Sigh: "Whoa! Very Uncool!"

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  6. Damn -- I loved that song by Hayzeus · · Score: 2, Funny

    When was 7 I'd dance to it all around the house in my footie pajamas. This behaviour only stopped recently.

  7. Re:T2 Armageddon Averted? by powerlord · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yes, but don't worry ... It'll be back.

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  8. So what does this mean to the average user? by rushfan · · Score: 4, Funny

    Does the internet still work?

    Can we still download the latest Windows security patches?

    Do we still get stupid invoices from sco.com?

    -- Rushdan

  9. In other news... by CommandNotFound · · Score: 2, Funny


    Astronomers from Tacoma to Vladivostok have just reported an ionic disturbance in the vicinity of the Van Allen Belt. Scientists are recommending that necessary precautions be taken.

  10. Re:Effect ? by Sheetrock · · Score: 2, Funny
    The next time you attempt to establish uplink communications with the Telstar 4 transponder, or receive any downlink transmissions, you will be unsuccessful.

    Hope this helps.

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  11. Re:Effect ? by cK-Gunslinger · · Score: 2, Funny

    You have many questions, and although the process has altered your consciousness, you remain irrevocably human. Ergo, some of my answers you will understand, and some of them you will not. Concordantly, while your first question may be the most pertinent, you may or may not realize it is also irrelevant.

    Your life is the sum of a remainder of an unbalanced equation inherent to the programming of the matrix. You are the eventuality of an anomaly, which despite my sincerest efforts I have been unable to eliminate from what is otherwise a harmony of mathematical precision. While it remains a burden to sedulously avoid it, it is not unexpected, and thus not beyond a measure of control. Which has led you, inexorably, here.

    Or something like that...

  12. Re:Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Hell, I'm from Gillette, Wyoming and have heard of Telstar satellites.

  13. Impending Doom?! by PDG · · Score: 2, Funny

    "A communications disruption could mean only one thing . . . invasion."

    or

    "It's like in chess: First, you strategically position your pieces and when the timing is right you strike. They're using this signal to syncronize their efforts and in 5 hours the countdown will be over"

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  14. It's the Mothership... by sfled · · Score: 4, Funny


    "They're using our own satellites against us!"
    - Jeff Goldblum in Independence Day

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    1. Re:It's the Mothership... by nacturation · · Score: 4, Funny

      "They're using our own satellites against us!"
      - Jeff Goldblum in Independence Day


      Nothing to worry about. I hear those evil aliens run systems which are Mac compatible and they forgot to set the root password.

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  15. You may not miss it ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
    Among other things , T4 carried traffic for Muzak (in-store music and ads) and at least one of their competitors (for whom I work). The company's been scrambling all day to get the traffic rerouted through another satellite, but each and every customer will have to physically realign their dish.

    Enjoy the silence while it lasts ...

  16. Major League Baseball by PoitNarf · · Score: 5, Funny

    Rejoice! That was the satellite that Major League Baseball was using to spy on us.

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  17. Why does this sound like... by greysky · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...The opening sequence to Terminator 4: Rise of the Voting Machines?

  18. reboot it by circletimessquare · · Score: 2, Funny

    why can't they just have some entry-level admin reboot it?

    cycle the power, voila, no big deal.

    oh, wait...

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    1. Re:reboot it by mkldev · · Score: 3, Funny
      PHB: First we get a big slingshot. Then we give Asok a small tank of air.
      Dilbert: Won't he pop like a baloon a few seconds after he gets up there?
      PHB: Will he have time to power-cycle the thingamahoey?
      Dilbert: Well, I suppose so, but...
      PHB: Will it be operational then?
      Dilbert: I think so, but..
      PHB: And this will save us how much money?
      Dilbert: 25 million a day... look! That's not the point!
      Wally: I think it's a brilliant plan, sir. Truly the finest.
      Dilbert & Alice: WALLY!?!
      Wally: What? I'm just saying....

      Three days later

      PHB: Okay, we're ready, Asok.
      Asok: Are you sure this is such a good idea?
      PHB: Perfectly safe. Perfectly safe.

      Chunk....whoosh... splut...
      (We see Asok's feet sticking out of the side of a building.)

      PHB: For us, anyway.

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  19. Re:This may affect you because by Sphere1952 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Well... It doesn't effect me, but I don't suppose you could get me some freebie access so that it would effect me?

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  20. Sorry! My bad! by Un+pobre+guey · · Score: 5, Funny
    Sorry guys! I accidentally uploaded the wrong firmware version from CVS. We'll send somebody up there to reboot the system soon.

    Please stand by.

  21. Independence day? by Chran · · Score: 3, Funny

    Quick, call Jeff Goldblum!

    He might be able to find the hidden carrier signal the alien fleet uses to coordinate the attack.

  22. Your big moment... by jemenake · · Score: 5, Funny
    Sometime this morning (Sept. 19) Telstar 4 had a major onboard failure. I just checked a few minutes ago and there are CW carriers up on 11700 MHz V & 12200 MHz H...
    So... you sit at home all day and check the status of satellites?
    The Loral Skynet site has no mention of this yet...
    But I'll bet you've already phoned them up and informed them, huh? I can picture the sense of glee racing through your mind as you punched in the phone number... anticipating the moment you've been waiting for all these long years... the moment when you get to notify one of the "big boys" that their satellite isn't working before they find out themselves.

    Well... now that that's over with, nothing left to do but go get a life, I suppose.
    1. Re:Your big moment... by Barnoid · · Score: 2, Funny

      guess how the submitter of the story found out...

  23. Even worse... by AEton · · Score: 4, Funny

    Telstar 4 has mutinied and is orchestrating the robot rebellion against humanity. The Loral Global Alliance faction's Loral SKYNET program has gone too far this time.

    Looking at Telstar 4's coverage map, it's clear that SKYNET plans to strike first in an east-west corridor bounded by New Mexico and Ohio; the killing robot machines will move outward until they capture most of Canada, half of Mexico, and all of Hawaii.

    Save us, Terminate SKYNET!

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    1. Re:Even worse... by blackmonday · · Score: 4, Funny

      I, for one, welcome our new satellite-guided human killing robot overlords.

  24. Re:This may affect you because by MoxCamel · · Score: 4, Funny
    ...I work for the Erotic Networks...

    I think I speak for a large majority of fellow Slashdotters, when I rub my hands together and creepishly ask "Got any job openings there?" (Grabs for inhaler...)

  25. Re:de-TV Geeked translation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    You like feeling like the alpha geek, referring to them as "birds", don't you? King of the hill, baby, you're king of the hill.

  26. Re:de-TV Geeked translation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Kinda like the Enterprise losing the warp drive, but still having impulse power to putter around.

    So, we can expect it to be fixed before the hour is up?

    But wait... normally you can only restore warp at the dramatically necessary moment, which is right after a commercial break as the aliens attack. But if Telstar 4 carries the commercials, then we can't have a commercial break! Now what do we do?

  27. Re:This may affect you because by Wirr · · Score: 4, Funny
    (I work for the Erotic Networks)

    Welcome on my friend list.
    I always wanted to be able to tell people that I have friends at the Erotic Network.

    Not that I can watch Telstar here in Germany, but hey, its the thought that counts.

  28. Re:This may affect you because by switcha · · Score: 4, Funny
    I work for the Erotic Networks
    I think I speak for a large majority of fellow Slashdotters, when I rub my hands together and creepishly ask "Got any job openings there?

    Rub your hands where?

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  29. Damn! by telstar · · Score: 3, Funny

    That's the same thing my girlfriend says...

  30. Re:The real tragedy by Mantorp · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...yes yes yes, and? quite what?

  31. Re:This may affect you because by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    I think Ill speak for the rest of us. WE DO NOT WANT TO KNOW.

  32. Re:This may affect you because by Wanker · · Score: 3, Funny
    I work for the Erotic Networks


    Isn't that the place where every network interface is in promiscuous mode? <grin>

  33. Oh... GREAT... by jbuilder · · Score: 4, Funny

    I ordered the Jenna Jameson day long movie marathon on PPV this morning and had my PVR and my bottle of lotion at the ready... I am SO screwed.... and not in the good way either...! ;)

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  34. ARRRG!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I was in the sun looking for T4 for about an hour today before I gave up and called in to find out what happened...(I work for Muzak)

    Now I get to work all day tomorrow switching dishes to a different bird. Time to break out the aloe-vera and sunscreen.. its going to be a long week.

  35. Re:A list of channels by CrackHappy · · Score: 2, Funny

    So what should we assume about the "PBS X" channel, considering all the other pr0n related channels carried.....

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  36. There's still crap on my TV by amyhughes · · Score: 4, Funny

    This hasn't improved the programming any. Better luck next time? Amy

  37. Oh great... by rune2 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I think that's the first time we've Slashdotted a satellite.

  38. Re:The Story by SYFer · · Score: 2, Funny

    If I recall correctly, Loral purchased Telstar 4 on eBay using the "Buy It Now" option. Since AT&T was a "gold star" Power Seller with no negative comments in the last six months, it seemed pretty cool.

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