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Final Fantasy VII - Advent Children Revealed

Posted by CowboyNeal on from the long-time-coming dept.

poshul the hyper puppy writes "Is Square Enix planning on doing a follow up to its best-selling game of all time? Nearing press time at this year's Tokyo Game Show 2003 - it appears a scan from the upcoming V-Jump magazine has given away Square's surprise by revealing Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children. Leaked by Japanese site Quiter the details say it takes two years after the original, should be released on some form of DVD media (looks like this could this be a movie, not a game?), and involves our legendary hero Cloud. So either bust out Babelfish to read the details directly at Quiter or get the news from SquareAMP: Final Fantasy VII - Advent Children." Update: 09/25 18:54 GMT by S : IGN PS2 are pretty sure that this is a direct-to-DVD CG movie, as the poster suggested above, not a videogame.

117 comments

  1. A movie? by Snowspinner · · Score: 1, Insightful

    It certainly looks from the description like a movie... but after the disaster that was Spirits Within, I'd be surprised if they risked that again... especially since they shut down their movie division entirely.

    --
    Philip Sandifer's academic website
    1. Re:A movie? by simoniker · · Score: 1

      I believe the bottom, in-game looking screenshot is just a picture of Final Fantasy VII for the PlayStation 1, to provide some context - if you squint, you can see '97' (the year FF7 came out) in the text.

    2. Re:A movie? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thank you.. I'm running on a very little amount of sleep :)

    3. Re:A movie? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It looks to me like the text boxes are more picture captions that the magazine put in rather than from the actual screenshots. Anyway, the older looking one is from the game, its the scene where Sephy kills Aeries (she is in Cloud's arms).

  2. boo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wow. Direct-to-video for square? Joining the ranks of such quality movie sequels as The Little Mermaid 2 and the Land Before Time series? SIGN ME UP!

    FF7 wasn't the best FF game, anyway. They really should have picked 6.

    ---Frodo
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    1. Re:boo by Leffe · · Score: 1

      Or Romancing Sa-Ga 3... OK, there's not much story, but the game rocks.

    2. Re:boo by JFMulder · · Score: 1

      Japanese anime (especially OVAs) are often straight to video, so it doesn't mean it's going to suck.

    3. Re:boo by r_benchley · · Score: 2, Insightful

      FF7 wasn't the best FF game. That would be 6 or 8. However, it is probably safe to say that FF7 is the most beloved FF game. There are millions of people whose first experience with FF was FF7 on the PSX. Many of these people have gone on to play the games that came before and after FF7, but the fond memories of playing FF7 remain.

    4. Re:boo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      True they're often straight-to-video, but then again, by definition that's what "Original Video Animation" means.

    5. Re:boo by veritron · · Score: 1

      You like 6 and 8?

      Top 3 reasons why 6 is worse than 7:

      1. Battle system is meaningless. In one savegame with under 30 hours total gametime I managed to create a party with an average level of 85, and have beaten Kefka with one character in 5 turns. Vanish-doom kills virtually everything you could possibly want to kill, and is incredibly easy to learn. Ultima does insane damage to all enemies, and it's possible to cast it 4 times in one turn for 5 mp. Cyan can do up to 79998 unblockable damage (ie, not effected by defense) in one turn for 1 mp *WITHOUT* the genji glove, at approximately level 50 (which can be achieved by 20 hours gametime.) You get the general picture - a retarded monkey could beat this game.

      2. Too many characters. Too many characters. Too many characters. Seriously, there were a lot of duds in that cast - sure, Locke and Shadow and Celes are cool, but do you really need over a dozen playable characters in a game where you can only have 4 people in your current party?

      3. Bugs, bugs bugs galore, many of them showstoppers. Try controlling the wrong enemy with Relm - there goes your save game.

      Top 8 reasons why FF8 is worse than FF7:

      1. Absolutely retarded battle system. Multiple methods of making your party invincible for no cost, the whole "draw" system, having to sit through boring GF animations every single time you summoned, limit breaks that could kill anything ever concievable dead. At least you can turn the random battles off though - that's a plus.

      2. The whole "orphanage" subplot is by far the most retarded thing I've ever seen in a Final Fantasy game - even if you make it so Squall never uses a GF, he still loses his childhood memories regardless. WTF?

      3. There's no way of determining whose bitching is more inane - Sephie's, Rinoa's, Quistis's, Zell's, or Irving's. Squall actually is cool in his own way, but the supporting cast SUCKED.

      4. Too many unnecessary characters. I mean, Squall has a critical hit rate of 100% if your reflexes are good and can't miss the enemy (to say nothing of his limit break), Rinoa's limit breaks make you invincible, and Zell's limit break damage is incredible. There's no reason to ever use the other characters - even in the (spoiler) end battle, you can just let the useless ones die and have 'em be replaced by the good ones. In FF7, sure, Cloud was a lot better than the other characters, but the difference wasn't so pronounced - you could argue that Cloud, Cid and Tifa's the best party, but you could throw Vincent or Yuffie into the equation and have a big old mess on your hands. There's no argument about the best party in FF8.

      5. Utterly dumbassed design decisions - say you (SPOILER) wanted to equip Edea with magic during the brief period she's in your party. Where does that magic go when she leaves? Well, not back to you, that's for sure!

      6. How could you waste three perfectly awesome characters - Laguna, Kiros, and Ward? I mean, I'd rather play the game as these characters, yet for whatever reason, you get to be them for perhaps two hours at most during the entire game. Oh, and the mechanism behind the whole Laguna thing is never adequately explained. I mean, it's obvious (spoiler) Laguna is Squall's father, but why the fuck would using GFs cause Squall to collapse and see life through the eyes of his father decades ago?

      7. Features the worst first five hours of any Final Fantasy game ever. Totally butchered - many fans couldn't bring themselves to play through it was so boring.

      8. I will admit FF8 had the best ending of any of the Final Fantasies. Just seeing a portion of it in the mall once was motivation enough for me to actually play through the entire beast. But why give such a horrible, pointless game such a great ending?

    6. Re:boo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your writing style implies that you think that you're being clever in pointing out something that everyone already knows.

    7. Re:boo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Final Fantasy 8? You have got to be shitting me!~

    8. Re:boo by Kethinov · · Score: 1
      I wasn't gonna touch your little disgruntled rant with a ten foot poll, but having endured reading the whole thing I must point out where at one spot you're quite wrong.
      but why the fuck would using GFs cause Squall to collapse and see life through the eyes of his father decades ago?
      GFs don't cause that buddy. Ellone did. No wonder you didn't appeaciate the game. You couldn't even get basic plot elements down.

      As far as the rest goes, no facts to dispute. Just your opinion. You should really be less critical.
      --
      You're right, I wouldn't steal a car. But if it were possible, I sure as hell would download one!
  3. And if it is a game... by Creepy+Crawler · · Score: 1

    It'll show how good the merger is between Enix and Square. I know, as a DQ fan, that I dreaded hearing tha news. After all, look how bad the FF series has gotten.

    I still will remember this.. It cracks me up

    Here lies Erdrick"
    "873-866"
    "RIP"

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    1. Re:And if it is a game... by Firehawke · · Score: 2, Informative

      You might be surprised to note that was only in the US release; the Japanese version uses the name Link.

  4. Another movie? by meanfriend · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Obviously not a theatrical release as the article says it will be DVD based.

    From the screenshots, it looks like the CGI FMV type graphics that you saw in every cutscene from FFVII to FFX.

    Reminds me of those ebay auctions where someone ripped all the CGI out of the FF games, then converted them to VCD. You could practically get the whole storyline without even playing the game...

    In any case, it doesnt need to cost $130 million to make yet only bring in $32 million like FINAL FANTASY:THE SPIRITS WITHIN.

    Square-Enix should take all the FF remakes (Origins, Anthology, Chronicles), FFVII-FFIX and bundle this movie in some sort of deluxe PS2 edition (all on DVD of course). They'd sell millions of copies...

    1. Re:Another movie? by JFMulder · · Score: 3, Informative

      FF : The spirits within, made 62 millions according to IMDB. Don't forget those worldwide sales. Sites like Yahoo only mention domestic sales. Movies that seem like a failure because they generated only a couple of millions (Like Johnny English) in the US sometimes are big successes overseas, making over one hundred million. Still, they didn't make enough money to cover the cost of the movie, they still made a whopping 79 million dollars on the DVD sales of FF:TSW, and then you have 149 million, so the movie must not have lost that much money.

    2. Re:Another movie? by evslin · · Score: 1

      Square-Enix should take all the FF remakes (Origins, Anthology, Chronicles), FFVII-FFIX and bundle this movie in some sort of deluxe PS2 edition (all on DVD of course). They'd sell millions of copies...

      Not unless they put some more thought into Chronicles and Anthology - let's face it, the first editions were horrible. I don't think I've ever seen less responsive controls in a video game. :)

    3. Re:Another movie? by DrEldarion · · Score: 1

      Also, keep in mind that much of the cost for producing the movies was buying all the computer equipment for it - which they sold afterwards, making a good sum of money back.

      -- Dr. Eldarion --

  5. Cloud by Txurlo · · Score: 2, Funny

    Don't know about you, but the first thing I did with FF7 was to change Cloud's name.

    He will be 'Mondongo' forever in my mind =).

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    Txurlo
    1. Re:Cloud by FuzzyBad-Mofo · · Score: 1

      At a friend's suggestion, I named Cloud 'Psycho'. It was pretty funny to see the dialog, "Nice to meet you x, I'm Psycho!"..

    2. Re:Cloud by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yeah, that's hilarious. stop it, you're killing me.

    3. Re:Cloud by jx100 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I gave all my characters their last names (or their real names, as with Red XIII and Cait Sith). All the "Mr. Cloud"s turned into "Mr. Strife"s, which made a lot more sense. And I just found "so nanaki's name is nanaki" really funny.

    4. Re:Cloud by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm with you 99%.

    5. Re:Cloud by Cecil · · Score: 1

      And I just found "so nanaki's name is nanaki" really funny.

      I did that too on my second time around, but I didn't even think about what would happen later in the game when they discover his real name -- I just thought that Nanaki was a much cooler name than Red XIII. When I unexpectedly saw that line however, I just burst out laughing. Great stuff.

      Another fun thing to do is name all of your characters in FF2(j) to violent exclamations like "DEATH", "SMASH", etc. First thing that happens in the game is that the four of you get seperated, so the main character runs around shouting, "DEATH!!!!" "SMASH!!!!". It's quite amusing, at least if you're twisted like I am.

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    6. Re:Cloud by skyknytnowhere · · Score: 1

      I did that in Chrono Trigger, too. It made for some priceless dialogue.

      "I am not Glenn, I am Glenn!"

      "So you mean Nadia is Princess Nadia?"

      "R66-Y? You can come up with something better than that!"
      "How about... R66-Y?"
      "That's perfect!"

      skye

    7. Re:Cloud by AyanamiChan · · Score: 1

      My little brother's name is Zack, so we quite inadvertently stumbled across "I'm not Zack, I'm Zack!" or something like that. We had to wait until I played through the game with the characters default names to understand what was going on in that one part.

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      "Procrasination is the key to world peace." ~Some girl in California
    8. Re:Cloud by BoBathan · · Score: 1

      Ever since Final Fantasy IV (II in North America), my main character's name has been Cecil.

      --Travis

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    9. Re:Cloud by kypper · · Score: 1

      My wife called him Sharky, and refuses to call him by anything else.

      Coincidentally, she named Tifa "1+1 Dood", Yuffie "Squeaky", Red "Meat", Cid "Flagbutt" and, *smirk* Barret "Mr. T"

      I was mortified and howling with laughter at the same time. Square would never be the same.

  6. Sweet! by Jhonny · · Score: 1

    I've been waiting for one ever scince I finishd FF7! Yeah that was only about a year ago but.... Hey! Its hard to wait!

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    DUKEY!
    1. Re:Sweet! by May+Kasahara · · Score: 4, Insightful
      I wasn't.

      Don't get me wrong, I love FF7; but I don't see how it would warrant creation of a sequel, be it another game or a DVD. The end of the original game, no matter how ambiguous, wrapped up the plot quite nicely. This new "Advent Children" thingie just looks like a case of Square milking the cash out of its most sucessful game.

      Maybe it will be good... who knows? However, at this point, I must remain skeptical...

    2. Re:Sweet! by Andonyx · · Score: 1

      Maybe it's just me, but I thought the end was wide open....

      I mean doesn't it basically end with everyone sitting there staring into something big happening pretty vaguely.

      I thought it was about as conclusive as the end of The Graduate. Maybe it's just me.

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    3. Re:Sweet! by Guppy06 · · Score: 1

      "The end of the original game, no matter how ambiguous, wrapped up the plot quite nicely."

      It did? Then maybe you can explain to me where Jenova and the Cetra came from, and why either of them or their ilk won't be coming back in the future (near or otherwise).

    4. Re:Sweet! by Jhonny · · Score: 1

      I agree with all the replys, yeah it was rapped up a lot better then most, but still was unfinished, what about the whole cloud sephiroth clone thingy? I never quite got that, maybe I just missed it. But it could turn out terible, and if it does, FF7 will never be the same...

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      DUKEY!
    5. Re:Sweet! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sephiros was created using DNA from Jenova (the body that fell from the sky) and Hojo (who is technically Sephiros' father). They were attempting to make a "super SOLDIER" for the Shinra Corporation. Cloud was born naturally and experimented with by having Jenova DNA inserted into his own (thus the eyes). After deeming Cloud to be a laboratory failure, they cast him off, denying him the opportunity from joining SOLDIER. Cloud, however, feeling so depressed and dejected eventually convinced himself that he had indeed been in SOLDIER (which probably made him feel at least superficially better), in the guise of Zack, when in fact he was just a lowly Shinra guard. That was only the beginning to the hidden madness that was contained within Cloud's mind.

      This is more to the other post regarding the ending. All of the characters aboard the airship watch as "Holy" combined with the Lifestream stop Meteor from destroying the world. After the credits it says "500 years later" and you see Nanaki, running down a canyon with some of his little cub offspring, wherein they leap to the edge of a cliff overlooking Midgar, which was now completely overgrown with vegetation. The planet was indeed saved and by the looks of it, Shinra (or another equally as evil corporation) never came back into power.

    6. Re:Sweet! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As they said in the game, Jenova was a body that fell from the sky, meaning they don't know where "she" came from, just that it appeared to fall from space.

      The Cetra race were extinct, aside from Aerith's mother. Because Shinra had her under captivity for their own studies, and even went as far to murder Aerith's father to get her back, this leads me to believe that Shinra probably used other Cetra as guinea pigs, which might explain how they all died off.

    7. Re:Sweet! by Guppy06 · · Score: 1

      "As they said in the game, Jenova was a body that fell from the sky, meaning they don't know where "she" came from, just that it appeared to fall from space."

      And is there reason to believe no more will fall from space?

      "The Cetra race were extinct, aside from Aerith's mother."

      And why wouldn't there be any more on other worlds?

  7. A movie? by LordOfYourPants · · Score: 1

    "should be released on some form of DVD media (looks like this could this be a movie, not a game?)"

    Looking at the bottom picture on that magazine cover, if that's a movie then they should have used voice actors rather than two text boxes.

    Here's to hoping it's a game...

  8. Final? Fantasy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Does it strike anyone odd that a game named Final Fantasy has so many sequels.

  9. A game? by Jack+Comics · · Score: 4, Funny

    Wait a minute... I thought all Final Fantasy releases were movies. You mean to tell me they were games? Huh. Weird. I was wondering why Final Fantasy X required a game controller...

    --
    "We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars." - Oscar Wilde
    1. Re:A game? by Sylver+Dragon · · Score: 1

      Game, movie, when it comes to the Final Fantasy series, is there really much difference? It seems that you spend more time watching melodramatic cut scenes than you do actually playing the game.

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      Necessity is the mother of invention.
      Laziness is the father.
    2. Re:A game? by MMaestro · · Score: 1

      Its a shame so many gamers think this way about the Final Fantasy series now. Prior to FF7, FMVs were a far away dream and the storyline was something YOU took involvement in rather than watch it unfold in a movie. Anyone remember in FF6 (3 for the uneducated) the part when you had to escape the floating island before it collapsed and you could chose to wait for Shadow or leave without him? Yeah, THAT was cool unlike more recent games where your allies just magicly managed to time your rescue perfectly.

    3. Re:A game? by mikelu · · Score: 1

      The difference is you have to slog through hours of boring fights using an incredibly limited and backwards combat system to get to the somewhat interesting plot points. And it costs 40 dollars instead of about 20 or less for a DVD.

  10. DVD does not a movie make by Rayonic · · Score: 1

    You do know that most Playstation2 and all Xbox games come on DVDs, right? It doesn't stand for Digital Video Disc, by the way, it stands for Digital Versitile Disc.

    Why would they specifically mention that it comes on a DVD? Seems weird to me, but this is from a Japanese magazine.

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    1. Re:DVD does not a movie make by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If it was a game, they wouldn't need to say it would come on a DVD, so more than likely, it's not a game. So it's probably one of those straight-to-video movies.

    2. Re:DVD does not a movie make by dmayle · · Score: 2, Informative

      Actually, it doesn't stand for a damn thing. After all the arguing back and forth, DVD is not a TLA.

    3. Re:DVD does not a movie make by Rayonic · · Score: 1

      > If it was a game, they wouldn't need to say it would come on a DVD, so more than likely, it's not a game.

      Well, some early PS2 games were actually CDs. You can tell which because they're the blue-bottomed ones. Twisted Metal Black, for instance, was on a CD.

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    4. Re:DVD does not a movie make by PainKilleR-CE · · Score: 1

      GT3 was the first DVD game released for the PS2 in Japan, so you could probably assume that every game released in Japan before GT3 was on a CD, though they might have put the US versions on DVD.

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      -PainKilleR-[CE]
    5. Re:DVD does not a movie make by PainKilleR-CE · · Score: 1

      http://www.dvdforum.org/tech-dvdprimer.htm

      The keyword is "versatile." Digital Versatile discs provide superb video, audio and data storage and access -- all on one disc.

      The DVD Forum being the consortium of all parties involved in the standards for DVD, I'll take their word on it. That doesn't mean that DVD never meant Digital Video Disc, but it's unlikely (then again, they may not have thought up the name until after announcing the acronym anyway), as the original designs were intended for multimedia use (movies, music, and computer data/software).

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    6. Re:DVD does not a movie make by identity0 · · Score: 1

      The scan itself(which I translated in a post below) Says specifically that it's a "motion picture". It's possible that it's some machinema-type thing that will only play on PS2's, but I doubt that - why limit your market unnessecarily, when pre-rendered video is much better?

  11. Multi platforms.... by oberon1987 · · Score: 1

    If square is smart, they'll publish FF7-2 on not only PS2 but XBOX and GC. They'll make alot of money. I traded in my PS2 last year for an XBOX and i'm not up to shelling out 200 bux to play one of my favorite RPG's of all times sequel.

    1. Re:Multi platforms.... by An'Desha+Danin · · Score: 1

      It may make you happy, but releasing it for all three systems definitely wouldn't be a smart move on Square Enix's part. You have to remember, every system has different hardware capabilities and very different code bases--developing the game (assuming that's what it is) for all three systems simultaneously would be prohibitively expensive, especially considering that the Xbox has a market share in Japan approaching zero, and the US Xbox demographic isn't the type noted for playing Final Fantasy.

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    2. Re:Multi platforms.... by r_benchley · · Score: 1

      The Japanese game companies aside from Tecmo don't give two shits about the XBox. It doesn't sell for dick over in the land of the Rising Sun. The XBox is for American gamers who want to play PC first person shooters while sitting on their couch instead of at their computer desk. The XBox is great for what it is, a platform for computer games without having to buy a new video card every six months. Don't expect a lot of variety from the titles being released.

    3. Re:Multi platforms.... by Matrix272 · · Score: 1

      the US Xbox demographic isn't the type noted for playing Final Fantasy.

      Tell that to the 250,000 people that bought Knights of the Old Republic in the first 4 days. KOTOR isn't all that much different than Final Fantasy, except that it has the Star Wars name attached (which doesn't mean much, thanks to Jar Jar).

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    4. Re:Multi platforms.... by mr.capaneus · · Score: 1

      You mean all the kids who were saying

      "D00d, KOTOR is teh sux!!!!111 U can't battle enemies, you just watch. This game is teh ghey!!!!111"

      I thought it was pretty funny since it is the only game for the Xbox that looks like I'd like it but it is definitely not a fit with the current Xbox demographic.

    5. Re:Multi platforms.... by li99sh79 · · Score: 1
      Tell that to the 250,000 people that bought Knights of the Old Republic in the first 4 days. KOTOR isn't all that much different than Final Fantasy, except that it has the Star Wars name attached (which doesn't mean much, thanks to Jar Jar). The only real similarities between Kotor and FF is that they're both called role playing games. Other than that they're quite different, both in style and execution. If you ask me kotor is the best console rpg i've played since Square's SNES glory days of FF6 and Chrono Trigger.

      Now having said that it is also worth pointing out that Kotor has sold a metric shitload of copies, proving that there's a market for more than ports of FPS games on the XBox. Of course you could say that Kotor is merely a port of a Windows RPG. Still, if Square-Enix was to release a FF game for Xbox it would sell quite a bit since I'd wager there are a lot of Xbox users like me, people in their 20's and 30's who cut their teeth on NES and SNES and look back on the old Square games with fondness.

      -sam

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      I was just here, where did I go?
  12. Barrat to Make a return as Mr. T? by Mana+Knight · · Score: 1
    Who wants to start taking bets that English version will have Barret's dialogue thrown through the the T'inator?

  13. FFVII-2 by kosamae · · Score: 1

    Okay, now, maybe it was just me, but some of those screenshots are CLEARLY game graphics. I mean, the ones on the bottom left. There is no way that's going to just be a movie. Even if it is, I won't believe it until it comes out.

    1. Re:FFVII-2 by An'Desha+Danin · · Score: 1

      The shot in the bottom left that you refer to is a shot from the original FF7, right at the end of disc 1. You know the scene.

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    2. Re:FFVII-2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As the other poster said, that's from FF7. Its purpose is to remind readers of the original game, since it came out several years ago in Japan.

  14. Sephiroth by Metal_Demon · · Score: 1
    You may or may not have noticed that Sephiroth was portrayed in the picture. If this is indeed Sephiroth and is not a flashback and the game or movie or whatever does indeed take place two years after FFVII I will be SOOOO pissed. Then again it would be really easy for them to piss me off with something like this, or really easy to make me cream my pants.

    On a side note, why is it that flamebait directed towards FF is rarely modded as such?

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    1. Re:Sephiroth by Dsal · · Score: 2, Informative

      I think the red japanese text around that Sephiroth pic says "about Sephiroth... does he live?!?".. or something to that dramatic effect. The stuff at the top left says "Cloud vs Sephiroth... AGAIN?!?"

      The screen at the bottom left is just talking about FF7 when it first came out, and how it sold like over 3 million copies worldwide blah blah blah. It's just a screen from FF7 and not an gameplay screen or anything.

      The other text on there seriously implies it's a movie and not a game.

  15. Re:Final? Fantasy by JFMulder · · Score: 3, Informative

    The reason behind that is simple. When Square released Final Fantasy 1, they were in deep financial troubles and they thought it would be their last game, so they called it Final Fantasy. The rest is history.

  16. Best character designs by demonic-halo · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Wasn't the best story wise, but it definately had some of the best FF character designs I've seen.

    Best FF bad ass hero: Cloud
    Best FF villian: Sephiroth
    Best FF bimbo: Tifa
    Best FF Mr. T look alike: Barret
    Most annoying FF kid character: Yuffie
    Best character no one gives a !@#$ about: Cait Sith
    Best mysterious but useless character:Vincent

    1. Re:Best character designs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nah, if that were true about Cait Sith then how come he's the only character I like in that shitty game?

    2. Re:Best character designs by hackwrench · · Score: 1

      Yuffie was my favorite character, but they say there's no accounting for taste.

    3. Re:Best character designs by YomikoReadman · · Score: 1

      If vincent was the most useless character in the game, how come he was practically invincible in the battle arena while using the chaos limit break, regen, while having the ribbon equipped?

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    4. Re:Best character designs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cuz he r0x0rz thats how come.

    5. Re:Best character designs by ikkonoishi · · Score: 1

      I say bah to you and your pansy Sephiroth.

      For Kefka would kick his ass old-school.

      It is true however that Barret is Mr T.

    6. Re:Best character designs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Kefka was a lot better at villany than Sephiroth. What did he do, kill some flower girl? Kefka poisoned a whole town, killed the emperor, killed the emperor's best general, and what else? Oh yeah he destroyed the world.

      I think Relm was more annoying than Yuffie. So annoying that her main attack froze the game half the time!

      I cared the least about Red XIII.

      Mysterious characters, eh? Yeah Vincent was pretty good, but so was Shadow. The only way to learn anything about him was by watching the freaky dream sequences that happened by luck most of the time. I'd mention Gogo but(s)he is just uncool. :)

    7. Re:Best character designs by Omestes · · Score: 1

      No, Kefka was the character you actual loved to hate, him and his bloody laugh.

      Sephiroth was the best all-around villian, aethetically pleasing, undeniably evil, coolest attitude.

      But then again I have a special leaning towards xdeath from FFV.

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      A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government. -edward abbey
    8. Re:Best character designs by ikkonoishi · · Score: 1

      I still just can't bring myself to like Sephy.

      Villians these days have too much emotional baggage to really do things right.

      They are almost as angsty as the heros.

      I think its a cultural thing.

      Have a game developed in america and the bad guy killed the good guy's family and the good guy is pissed off armed with half a platoon's worth of weapons and is out for vigilante justice.

      Same game in Japan the hero is equiped with a magic sword and out to save the world along with his friends while being sad about his lost family.

      Eh just my $0.02

    9. Re:Best character designs by Guppy06 · · Score: 1

      "Best FF bad ass hero: Cloud"

      Shadow. He'd slit is mamma's throat for a nickle.

      Cloud wasn't a bad ass, he just thought he was a bad ass (namely, a bad ass named Zack). And then he had a mental breakdown when he learned he wasn't half the bad ass he thought he was.

      "Best FF villian: Sephiroth"

      Kefka. Sephiroth just had dellusions of grandeur and/or an overblown ego. Kefka was driven mad by magitech infusion, began to think he was God, then actually was God. And Kefka used WMD more often (though perhaps not as often as X-Death).

      "Best FF bimbo: Tifa"

      Tera/Tina never could make up her mind about anything. The Empire probably put the slave crown on her just to get her to shut up already.

      "Most annoying FF kid character: Yuffie"

      Relm. Especially since Yuffie's special skill didn't cause my SNES to freeze.

      "Best character no one gives a !@#$ about: Cait Sith"

      So I was the only one getting choked up when he sacrificed himself?

      And Cait Sith was infinitely more useful than Edward, especially in the ET game.

      "Best mysterious but useless character:Vincent"

      I'd have to say Edward again. His sexual orientation is still a mystery. :)

    10. Re:Best character designs by Kethinov · · Score: 1
      infinitely more useful than Edward.

      "Best mysterious but useless character:Vincent"

      I'd have to say Edward again. His sexual orientation is still a mystery. :)
      You mean Gilbert? Silly Americans and their FF2 which happens to be a dumbed down version of the real FF4. And don't you go bitchin' about not being able to download a j2e translated ROM. They've been floatin' around for three years now. In fact, I recently started a new game in the real FF4 after having endured my SNES copy of the American FF2. It's nice to see Cain instead of Kain. Gilbert instead of Edward. And it's nice actually having the Dark Wave ability on Cecil along with several other things. Sometimes I love Square and sometimes I hate'm.
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    11. Re:Best character designs by Guppy06 · · Score: 1

      "And don't you go bitchin' about not being able to download a j2e translated ROM."

      Why would I care? I already have Final Fantasy Chronicles. Or have you not gotten a copy yet?

    12. Re:Best character designs by Kethinov · · Score: 1

      That's all fine and dandy if you like paying for it twice, then ending up with the crappy laggy slow PSX version of FF4.

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    13. Re:Best character designs by Omestes · · Score: 1

      Probably more realistic though, since bad guys are... well... guys too.

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    14. Re:Best character designs by skyknytnowhere · · Score: 1

      Yuffie wasn't nearly appreciated enough. Especially because she took Cloud on a date when no one else would...

      skye

    15. Re:Best character designs by Guppy06 · · Score: 1

      And what alternative do I have? I only know barely enough Japanese to answer "Nihongo ga wakarimasu ka?" in the negative (and what little I do understand I got from anime/manga and BattleTech novels) and even then it has to be in romanji or I'm pretty much in the dark. As much as I like Final Fantasy, I'm not about to learn a foreign language just to play the game when I have a reasonable facsimilie right here, complete with corny translation flubs tossed in for spice. Therefore, my only other alternative was to wait for them to port the game to yet another console (and that probably won't happen until they re-release FF III, sometime after the release of Duke Nukem Forver).

      So I may not fit your definition of "hardcore" gamer. And if I'm not hardcore enough, I have to ask: When was the last time you showered?

    16. Re:Best character designs by Kethinov · · Score: 1

      If you had bothered to read anything I had said, you'd realize that I didn't learn japanese to play the real FF4, nor am I putting up with buying it a second time because I'm playing on a translated FF4j ROM. Oh, and before you go bitching about how that's illegal, it's not. I already bought FF4, and so did you, right? Therefore, downloading a translated FF4j is well within your legal right.

      Oh, and consider getting your facts straight before you go spouting insults next time.

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    17. Re:Best character designs by Brandeissansoo · · Score: 1

      err, Tifa takes him out too...

  17. Re:Final? Fantasy by An'Desha+Danin · · Score: 1, Informative

    Somebody always has to say it, don't they?

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  18. humph by Metal_Demon · · Score: 1

    Not that I don't think the whole thing is fake anyways, but like I said no way should that bastard be alive. Thanks for the translations. Of course I openly admit that if it is real I will buy it regardless of how much of a dissapointment it is simply because it says FF on it.

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  19. I don't even care if it's a movie by Cecil · · Score: 1

    Gimme gimme gimme. I am a Square fanboi damnit, and FF7 was damn-near perfect as far as their line of games goes. (And contrary to GameSpy's FF7 bashing, no, it was not my first FF game. My username should be sufficient evidence of that.)

    I loved that game. The characters, the airship, the story, the minigames (yay snowboarding!) I pretty much liked everything except the silly Materia system, but then I've never been a fan of "equip-to-learn!" systems. It irritated me in FF6 too.

    FF4 is how learning magic should work. Mages learn magic. Fighters swing swords. That's how it should be.

    Anyway, getting back on topic: I worry that this is simply a concept that Square had which never took off, so I'm not going to get my hopes up. If it's not, though, it would be a sweet sweet thing. Maybe they'll bring Aeris back to life. *grin*

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    1. Re:I don't even care if it's a movie by NonSequor · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      I don't give a fuck about Aeris.

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    2. Re:I don't even care if it's a movie by incom · · Score: 1

      FFIV is the best game ever.

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  20. DVD is not a TLA. by TiggsPanther · · Score: 1

    Well, it sure as hell ain't an ETLA!

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  21. Based on my limited Japanese skills... by devnull17 · · Score: 1

    ...the large print in the poster says something to the extent of "More than a game, look at these super-new images!" It seems to imply that it's a game. I'd do a more thorough job of translating, but I'm at work.

    Regardless of what people are saying, it's most likely a game. Remember that FFX and FFX-2 were both games that were released on DVD media. There have also been rumors of a direct FFVII sequel floating around for some time. Nomura himself has commented on it. It's a game, it comes out next year, and it's most likely for PS2.

    1. Re:Based on my limited Japanese skills... by May+Kasahara · · Score: 1

      I also recall that an FFX movie came out (on the FFX International version, I believe) shortly before FFX-2 was announced. Like this new FF7 movie, it was a sequel that took place after the events of the oridinal game. Leads one to further speculation...

    2. Re:Based on my limited Japanese skills... by Dsal · · Score: 1

      "Gamu o koeta", the phrase there, could also mean "beyond a game"

      Nowhere in the text there does it mention it being a game, only that it's coming out for DVD. They mean DVD is the platform and not just the media.

      If you look on the Quiter site, the heading of the news usually has the platform in front of the heading title. There, it's listed as "DVD" while other TGS coverage entries are listed as "PS2"

      All signs points to not a game but a straight to DVD movie.

  22. FF7 by Kelz · · Score: 1

    If it is a game... SQUEEEEEEEL!

    This text to offset caps

    1. Re:FF7 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In terror, right?

  23. Re:How do you get a nun pregnant? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dude, it was the priests going after the altar boys, not the nuns. Pay attention.

  24. Re:How do you get a nun pregnant? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...Yeah.

  25. What's with that pirate? by PPCAvenger · · Score: 1

    Can anybody tell me what the deal is with that psychotic looking pirate in the bottom, right corner in the pink box? He also appears in the top, right of the magazine logo.

    Pirates aren't supposed to shoot the bird, they're supposed to wear them on their shoulder.

    It seems out of place and makes me think it's a hoax but then I'm not familiar with the Japanese culture. Can anybody translate the box?

    1. Re:What's with that pirate? by YaRness · · Score: 1

      maybe it's Bikke?

    2. Re:What's with that pirate? by JExtine · · Score: 1

      Its probably just part of the magazine. Jump and those type of Japanese magazines are kinda goofy sometimes...

  26. Re:Final? Fantasy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...named Final Fantasy has so many sequels

    That's been brought up so many times that it's not funny or original now. Please stop.

  27. Aeris by hackwrench · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Alright, it appears no one has asked the question, so "Will they resurrect Aeris?"

    1. Re:Aeris by Maserati · · Score: 1

      Only if Chris Claremont is writing it.

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  28. there's always a lot of shit... by AyanamiChan · · Score: 1
    ... when a new squaresoft game is announced. So many people believe that square is incapable of making decent games anymore, only to be proven wrong (in my opinion) when new games comes out. I just got one peice of advice for ya'll... wait until you've played a game before you talk shit about it.

    *waits not-so-patiently for a new game to devote my life to... SoulCaliber2 is getting old...*

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  29. It *IS* a DVD movie, *not* a game by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://ps2.ign.com/articles/451/451541p1.html?from int=1

  30. My money is on movie by StellarEX · · Score: 1

    I think if it was a game they would have tacked the -2 on it and make a new logo as per tradition. But you never know with square, they are taking more risks more than holding on to traditions lately.
    I look forward to it, whatever it turns out to be. It'll be nice to see these characters brought to life in today's CG.
    Of course if it is a game, you can look forward to your characters not having giant cubes for hands :)

  31. This is not a game, stop dreaming by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Anyone who thinks this is a game is simply begging to be disappointed. There is NO WAY they would not indicate it were for PS2 in the ad if it were, trust me. And likewis it explains why the rumors which were fanned in the last few weeks by Japanese gaming site Yu's Gaming Antenna said, "It will be shocking.. you will be like, oh! That is the direction they're moving in."

    Initially people assumed it may be for GameCube since that'd be shocking (and being on the PS2 would not), but that is clearly not the case now.

  32. Cloud and Sephiroth by ALeavitt · · Score: 1

    Has anyone noticed that Cloud and Sephiroth look alike? It's hard to tell from the small picture of Sephiroth but if Square makes them look alike, they may appeal enough to my fanboy-ness to make me forget The Spirits Within.

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  33. Re:Final? Fantasy by NanoGator · · Score: 1

    "This is the greatest case of False Advertising I've seen since I sued the movie The Never Ending Story"

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  34. Ick... by Guppy06 · · Score: 1

    "it appears a scan from the upcoming V-Jump magazine"

    If those pictures are what the movie looks like, I'll wait for the paperback, thanks.

  35. Really a movie? by Guppy06 · · Score: 1

    Are you referring to the upcoming Square-Enix release, or IGN's Flash-heavy pages?

  36. Lets hope that pic was a talanted photoshop....... by UltimaL337Star · · Score: 0

    I really don't think I want an official sequal to ff7. It was just one of those legendary games that finished perfectly and should never be continued and touched again. Same goes for neon genesis evangelion too.. Wouldn't mind little sequals and director cuts and alternate timelines that aren't part of the official story though... it would just make me feel better if it didnt mess up something so damn perfect I would though support true to the game remakes like twin snakes hopefully will be like, and maybe make a remakes collection of all the final fantasys for all platforms including every single squaresoft game dumbed down or enhanced for each platform which you would be able to take with you when you die and have a 50$ rebate for a nice final fantasy bible http://www.amazon.co.jp/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000069E0 C/249-7098904-4461143 Just like the star wars franchise... just like john romero's career, just like that one really cool case window that you made that probably could never do again that you totally messed up and threw against the wall The Brady bunch? Well not that it was good the first time, but it was just offensive in its ressurections...

  37. No, not that one... by kosamae · · Score: 1

    This one and this one That just doesnt look anything like high quality CG to me. I mean, unless someone around here knows Japanese and can give a decent translation, and not the gibberish Babelfish produced, then I don't see any reason to believe that the word DVD assures us that this is just going to be a movie.

  38. Image translation by identity0 · · Score: 1

    Yaaay, my Japanese skills are finally useful for something! A rough translation of the linked image (sorry about the bad grammar and the exclamation marks... the original isn't written very well, either :P) -

    Pink text in upper-right: That Final Fantasy VII's story appears on completely new DVD!!

    Yellow text near middle: See ultra-new footage that goes beyond the game!!

    Pink tox with white text in lower right: (Something something) CG movie lets you enjoy the later story!! In a world 2 years after the previous work, main charachter Cloud once again journeys to battle!! If you watch this, you will understand all the mysteries of the tale... maybe?!

    Extreme lower right: Sale date / 2004 scheduled sale
    Price / To be decided
    Maker / Square-Enix
    (Media?) / DVD
    Genre / Motion Picture

    Upper-left: Cloud VS Sephiros again!?

    Red text middle-left: Sephirohs finally resurrected...?!

    That's all for now, don't have time to get into the small text, but I think I got all the important parts... Sorry if I misspelled any charachter names, I'm not familiar with the series...

  39. Re:Final? Fantasy by Farscry · · Score: 1

    1. Make "Final Fantasy" 2. Create sequels to raise suspicion of true finality. 3. ???? 4. PROFIT! Seriously though, the "dur, if it's final fantasy, why ur dere sekwels?" has been so overdone it's as bad as Jeff Foxworthy's redneck jokes.

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  40. Stupid Formatting by Farscry · · Score: 1

    1. Make "Final Fantasy"
    2. Create sequels to raise suspicion of true finality.
    3. ????
    4. PROFIT!

    Seriously though, the "dur, if it's final fantasy, why ur dere sekwels?" has been so overdone it's as bad as Jeff Foxworthy's redneck jokes.

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    Mmmmm.... Pigeons. Sometimes, they come with notes attached...it's like...a fortune cookie with wings.
  41. Re:Final? Fantasy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's like chocobos or phoenix down, it's just not a Final Fantasy game without some assmunch asking that question.

  42. Headline: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Improved formatting still fails to render joke funny. Movie at Eleven.