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TRON Enters Alliance With Microsoft
David writes "As widely reported on OSNews.com,
Forbes,
IDG,
CNet,
AustralianIT,
and Ashi
Shimbun - Microsoft Corp.
has entered into an alliance with the T-engine
Forum, the consortium behind the free software TRON
operating system. As TRON runs billions of
devices worldwide, this will help Microsoft's goal of cementing WinCE / .NET
in places as diverse as your toaster and cell phone, perhaps in a setup
similar to how X-Windows is in relation to the Linux kernel." (Continued below.)
David continues: "This arrangement is ironic, as Microsoft is part of the reason why the U.S. in the 1980s prevented Japan from putting TRON into schools on the desktop by account of trade rules, which would've meant Linux may've never gone beyond being a footnote in the comp.os.minix archives. No doubt Microsoft is aiming to keep Linux out of the embedded space, and may in the long-term foster an environment where using anything other than industry-licenced OS software on the desktop becomes unviable for everyday tasks because all the infratructurial systems we take for granted today like radio, television, phones, IM, require Palladium-style walled gardens."
I'll never believe it... Tron fights for the users. He'd never work for the MCP.
Too late, they already put Windows on my gun, and it just keeps rebooting when I pull the trigger.
Blue Screen of Light-Cycle?
10b||~10b -- aah, what a question!
No thanks! Spare me the Microsoft stuff and give me a good old mechanical toaster! Yah!!
MS: Who are your users?
TRON: Forget it mister high mighty Microsoft. You aren't making me talk.
MS: Suit yourself
*derez of TRON commences*
Err, shouldn't that be "I for one welcome our Microsoft Overlords... Again"
Leopards don't change their spots
Lions don't lie with lambs
Microsoft doesn't play well with others
Its really a shame that theres always someone out there who figures theyr'e the ones that can get a fair shake out of Microsoft.
Microsoft allready moved against TRON being adopted by japanese schools. (WTO trade regs were their weapon of choice). Does anyone at the TRON project really think the vole of redmond has had a change of heart ?
The only ray of hope here, is that it will provide a great impetus to embeded linux. I can just see chinese party officials thinking their refrigerators are spying on them because they run microsoft operating systems.
Where's Flynn when ya need him?
Sark: "You're just an ordinary program!"
Flynn:"So are you. One that should have been erased."
Flynn:"Come on, how can you expect to rule the world if you can't solve a few unsolvable problems."
There's a growing sense that even if The Future comes,
most of us won't be able to afford it.
-- Lemmy
TRON and Microsoft are only working together on a new security system that will be able to protect heterogeneous systems from attack, so there is no reason to worry.
The first SDK for this software ("Skynet") should be out in about 18 months.
Recursive: Adj. See Recursive.
Better than having to pay an extra $699 to SCO for my toaster.
The agreement will allow the Windows CE .NET platform for digital devices to work on top of T-Kernel.
It's just more assimilation. (and just think, they were probably prepping this deal at the same time they were whining about the China-Japan-Korea superOS being unfair)
Bush: He's Liberal in all the wrong ways.
I'm not looking forward to the BSOD on my toaster...
Hey, wait a minute. I always knew there was something strange about those Microsoft Certified Professionals and they ugly biege MCP polo shirts that were tucked frumpilly into their 38" Husky "big boy" denims. Little did I know how deep their dasterdliness ran. /shutter/
ER
My first reaction to this is that here is Microsoft trying to stem the tide against the proposed OS that China, Japan, and Korea are thinking about.
In Japan, Microsoft has a fair bit of prestige... unlike, say, in Europe or the US where MS's reputation is sullied by the anti-trust suits. The Japanese, IMO, don't really think that the general public minds MS dominance... but then the Japanese wouldn't say openly that they hate MS or anything. Plus most IT workers would be thrilled to work for MS Japan... they have lots of cash after all. There seems to be no debate here about "which OS is better" like there is in other western countries.
READY.
PRINT ""+-0
..."Windows Powered"(TM) toaster sticks fork in YOU!
~Philly
Talkie Toaster
Would anybody like some toast?
Well then, would anybody like some toast?
Microsoft Certified Professionals?
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* Before someone tries to corrects me, don't worry, I already know the reference to Tron the movie.
if it means that when I can't figure out how to use a kitchen appliance a little anthropomorphized cartoon refrigerator character pops up, waves at me and tells me what to do.
This will mark the return of Clippy, mark my words.
It appears you're trying to make toast. Would you...
A) Like advice on which bread to use?
B) Adjust your toast settings (will require Microsoft TOAST(TM)(R) Install CD)
C) Prepare your spread of choice?
D) Just go make some damn eggs (Microsoft Eggs will open in new window)
Therefore: BSD is dying, QED.
Wait, now I'm confused. What was this analogy about?
Fuck Beta. Fuck Dice
Please download it off some obscure site, then satisfy its dependencies then satisfy the dependencies of its dependencies only to find out that it either blows up when you use sht command or would not compile due to bugs in the code/different GCC version/missing files.
As a sidenote, the main thrust of the T-Engine platform is high portabilty of middlewares across various embedded emvironments with different CPUs. This portabilty is made possible by a standard opensource kernel, which is based on micro-ITRON 3.0, and standalization of hardware. Dr. Sakamura even said he is going to fix the specification of the realtime kernel by the end of year and it will not be changed for the next HUNDRED years for the sake of comatibilty of middlewares. Moreover, there are rumors that a subsidary of Panasonic is developing a desktop operating system based on T-Engine. This is a very exciting year for the TRON project indeed.
I said it before and I'll say it again: where can I find the source and the license to tron? It seems that tron is more of an open specification of a RTOS, and there are a ton of closed binary-only implementations.
This actually kinda reminds me of the MIPS processor architechure.. there is an open specification and lots of people produce chips for the ISA.. but it wasn't until opencores came along that there was an open implementation.. and there is no open implementation for TRON yet, AFAIK.
Is tron open-source? Where is the code? Where is the license? Whats the story here? If it really is open-source, why can't someone point to the code? Something is fishy here.. or perhaps its just lost in the translation.. but I can't figure this out.
-molo
Using your sig line to advertise for friends is lame.
Maybe that joke about Microsoft making something that doesn't suck (vacuum cleaner) may be coming to real life very soon?
Un-news
Here is there address in order to ask them if they are:
:-)))
1) Completely mad
2) In advanced stages of dementia
3) Under severe coercion
4) Have a death wish.
Remember not to sent inflammatory correspondence as this is unlikely to influence them
T-Engine Forum Secretariat
(In the YRP Ubiquitous Networking Laboratory)
The 28th Kowa Building
2-20-1 Nishigotanda
Shinagawa Ward
Tokyo 141-0031
Japan
Tel: +81-3-5437-2270 (Representative)
Tel: +81-3-5437-2338
Fax: +81-3-5437-2271
Email: office@www.t-engine.org
anyone of you guys read the T-Engine site??
http://www.t-engine.org/english/member.html
it says Microsoft is an A Grade Member and is a Board Member? whoa! i didnt get to see the site before the alliance so did MS just become board member in an instant or what?
You may be thinking of a vendor sht. He's probably using GNU sht, which takes caliber etc from a file of tab (NOT space -- think make!) separated records -- exact syntax available in handy 'info' format.
Frankly it's easier to just use windows and call IFirearmsEx::WGunSystemBulletOperationShootEx32(H
Whence? Hence. Whither? Thither.