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Verteiron writes: "As if things weren't weird enough already, SCO is now planning to pay companies to migrate away from Linux.. even if it's not toward UNIX. According to the summary over at Groklaw, SCO will provide 'financial incentives and discounts' to users that switch to 'other operating systems that have a stronger IP basis than Linux.' This doubly amusing when considered together with the following statements straight from SCO's 8-K form filed with the SEC:
'...plans to expand SCO's intellectual property licensing program to allow for migration alternatives to end users... and continued efforts to protect SCO's UNIX intellectual property rights and SCO's belief that the private investment will enhance SCO's ability to pursue currently pending legal actions... SCO has a history of unprofitability and has only realized revenue from its SCOsource licensing initiative during the last two quarters...'"
Where do I sign up?
Karma: Meh (Mostly from meh.)
Holy mother of God, this story keeps getting better and better.
I have 5 FreeBSD boxes running.
Where do i sign up?
do() || do_not();
Ok, seriously, who thinks the underwear gnomes have a better bussiness plan?
Mod me down with all of your hatred and your journey towards the dark side will be complete!
I don't run Linux on my wristwatch. Where's my check?
Remind me again how much Microsoft "invested" in SCO?
Depending on the sum, I could be convinced to go BSD I suppose...
Or better yet, if they pay me enough to buy an apple.
"The United States has no right, no desire, and no intention to impose our form of government on anyone else." - Bush 05
Nice to see some confirmation finally that SCO is not in the business of selling software, and has only the destruction of Linux as its objective.
This should clear the air a bit and help wake up those poor souls who still think that the SCO Group is some sort of software company, and not a lawsuit factory with a worthless, deprecated UNIX implementation on hand that they're not even developing to any useful degree any more.
And on the speculative front, I'll refuse to be 100% sure that Microsoft and/or Sun are behind SCO's actions until I see some sort of paper trail, but this makes me sure enough.
switch to 'other operating systems that have a stronger IP basis than Linux.'
Good luck finding one. FreeBSD is equal to linux in this regard, and everything else is less.
Don't label something "offtopic" unless you know the topic well enough to tell what's on topic.
VC weenie: What's your business plan?
Darl McB: Pay people to switch from an OS we don't own to others we don't own.
VC weenie: Here's 5 million dollars - can I be on your board?
XML causes global warming.
Microsoft-funded initiative from SCO?
I *really* hope that IBM either aquires or buries this company. If MS is so overly interested in SCO, isn't there a threat that MS could purchase SCO? What if SCO *wants* to be purchased by MS? What would happen to Linux if MS owned the rights to UNIX? If IBM doesn't aquire them, perhaps RedHat, or Novell... any company other than MS.
Use *anything* other than Linux. Note the biggest discount is Windows.
So, pay SCO only $299.00 for Linux.
But stop using Linux. Hmmm, so why the $299? Move on.
Start using Windows.
And this helps SCO how? You're not using their products. Oh, but you paid $299 for a product (Linux) they claim infringes on something of theirs, but then stop using the allegedly infringing product.
HELP!
Doing a Carrot instead of stick strategy will work a little better for SCO to accomplish their means. Granted lawyers = $500 - $2000/hr whereas user incentives = $500/user maximum (thinking Windows XP + MS office pro).
What kind of impact this will have on the Linux community that thinks they're a bunch of (every expletive you can imagine inserted here) I don't know. Anyone here in the Slashdot community who trusts SCO raise their hand.
Though all the same, some users who are looking to upgrade just might....naaah I shan't think such heretical thoughts....
...in bed
I wonder if they took into account the possibility of users switching away to another free *NIX.
Assuming they did, that makes it even more clear how much of their attack is focused on the GPL itself. BSD-licensed software may be free, but it can be added to any proprietary system with the sole provision that the copyrights are maintained and there is no warranty of fitness for any particular purpose. True "free software" is obviously what scares SCO and their puppet masters.
That's assuming they considered that possibility. Knowing how out-of-touch SCO's executives have proven themselves to be, there's a good chance they didn't.
RedHat's case rests on the allegation that SCO's actions are deliberately trying to damage RedHat's sales potential (as the #1 Linux distribution). This would seem to directly support that allegation.
The same could be said for IBM's counterclaim.
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/me then looks for the form on SCO's site.
I'm not a prophet or a stone-age man,
I'm just a mortal with potential of a super man.
I log onto Slashdot every day and often view these outrageous headlines about SCO. This one struck me this most. It seems to me that SCO is the Linux world equivilant of a suicide bomber, set up by "them" to bring down what could be a serious threat to the software economy. In such a high stakes game I certainly wouldnt put it past Microsoft or some other corporation to set up a dummy company to use the courts to take down their opponents. Any thoughts on this?
-- "Man is born free, and everywhere he is in chains." Jean Jacques Rousseau
So their only income right now is that they're trying hard to sell you the product (which they hate) for $699, but at the same time they're willing to lose money if you agree to stop using it?!
STOP . AMERICA . NOW
Here's an article from a UK source today, called Microsoft millions back SCO case. It also highlights Boies' et. al. backing of SCO. Just so there's no confusion about who it is that's scared of Linux.
This seems like clear grounds for a class action lawsuit by the shareholders.
There seems to be no business justifiable reason for such an action.
LetterRip
I can't see any sound business reason for SCO to reward organizations to migrate from Linux to Microsoft, or Sun or anything else.
Someone ought to let Darl and Co. know that dictating a grass-roots movement has been tried in the past, and it almost allways fails. The impetus for a grass-roots movement has to come from the people down in the dirt, not the ones above slinging mud at each other.
But, it's just another case of more circus, less bread. How exactly is SCO supposed to verify that a given applicant was a Linux shop? And more importantly, if they do part with any of their Microsof, er warchest, how do they intend to enforce compliance?
Besides, rather than offering cash incentives, you ought to be offering equivalent-value incentives. Just guessing, but I bet SCO could get a pretty attractive price on M$ products to offer folks as cash equivalents which would presumably cost SCO less real money, if only from the volume discount aspect. But anyone who thinks M$ wouldn't make it more lucrative for SCO to tender that kind of deal, well you know who to send your $699 linux license fee to...
"Talk minus action equals nothing" - Joey Shithead, D.O.A.
"Talk minus action equals
...for everyone to believe that this was never about a pump-and-dump stock scheme, but rather a backroom deal by the enemies of the GPL to smear and FUD until CTOs run screaming at the sound of the words "open source".
Fred
"A fool and his freedom are soon parted"
-RMS
I hate to sound like a conspiracy theorist but...
What possible reason can SCO have for encouraging people to switch over to Windows (as the article indicates they might) unless they are in bed with Microsoft? Has SCO become a front for Microsoft in it's war against Linux? That is a scary prospect, because SCO doesn't care about it's reputation and so can do really nasty things that Microsoft would never get away with on it's own.
Sure, I'll be happy to switch N virtual machines over to a binary-only SCOware or Microsoft instead of Linux, if they'll pay me enough per virtual machine. .
Bill Stewart
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This is exactly right. How can a company be profitable by paying people to not use one competitor, but rather use another, unless the dominant market leader is controlling the puppet strings?
Agent K: A *person* is smart. People are dumb, stupid, panicky animals, and you know it.
No, really. I love Linux, and my company uses it on many desktops (about 40%) as well as our main file server, mail server, and ftp server, and I'll unplug each and every one on Friday, November 14th if they'll pay me.
Of course, the sad fine print is that my company is closing on Friday, November 14th, but I'll do it, by gum. Just show me the money!
--
If I had any money in SCO, I would want to take it out now, or be on the phone to my lawyer, looking into some sort of minority-shareholder lawsuit against the company for wasting shareholders' money by paying them to switch to a competitor's product. There is simply no financial benefit for SCO in having users switch from Linux to Windows, Solaris, or anything but a SCO product. Unless SCO has some sort of plan to move into the Windows services market (that they've kept under wraps all this time), they shouldn't be paying for people to move to Windows. It's almost enough to make me believe the SCO-Microsoft conspiracy theories.
That's it. I'm no longer part of Team Sanity.
to use AIX? That is not Linux.
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This is really sounding like SCO believes they're trotting down the Yellow Brick Road; they are in lala-land to think they can pay major corporations to change their infrastructure; SCO would have to sell itself to get the money to do it.
Cast:
The Wizard: SCO
Dorothy: Linux Users (Not in Kansas anymore)
Toto: Tux
Glinda, Good Witch of the North: IBM
The Scarecrow: Darl McBride
The Lion: SCO's shareholders
The TinM(e)n: SCO's Lawyers
Wicked Witch of the West: Micro$oft
If "disco" means "I learn" in Latin, does "discothèque" mean "I learn technology"?
Potential Investor: What's your business plan?
Guy with goatee: We'll be selling e-products over the e-web. Our e-services will include e-billing, e-shipping, and e-tracking. This will actually reduce our infrastructure and overhead costs to negative numbers, so we won't even need to actually sell anything.
PI: Here's all my money, and my 18 year old duaghter.
It's nothing but crumpled porno and Ayn Rand.
Excuse me... but wouldn't offering financial incentives to not use a competetive product be illegal in some way?
I mean, it's legal to give incentives to use my product... but to drive a competitors business away...?
Make em bleed! Buy an XBox. That way you can still run Linux and switch to a platform with more IP (whatever they mean by that, since Linux is copyrighted anyways!) That way you can screw SCO and Microsoft altogether. Maybe this is all about getting rid of Sony, or am I taking this too far? ;-)
How is this for an idea:
If you are a company which supports Linux, develops software for use on Linux, or uses Linux in some way, simply offer a discount of - say 25% - for all services related to migrating SCO users from SCO products to Linux.
Next thing to do is write press releases to the local papers telling them about it. You should point out that SCO customers face an uncertain future, since SCO will proably loose its fight with IBM, and will then be taken to court for its actions. You can also describe how SCO's new path is not developing new and better software for you, but simply based on taking advantage of its "IP".
Obviously there are many potential Linux converts out there, and it would be a good idea for Linux companies to compete for those users by offering them discounts to move away from SCO first.
I also believe that companies should cease supporting SCO versions of software - but at the same time offer existing clients a migration path to a more solid platform - such as Linux.
I know the SCO's lack of revenue is hardly a worry to them now, however it will make great news, and possibly make their stock price reflect reality.
They're trying to make such a huge, confusing mess out of the while issue that someone buys them out just to shut them up.
SCO is getting worse than the crazy homeless people in San Francisco that scream Bible passages at you as you're walking by..
Actually, wait. The homeless nutcases have a better business plan.
The article says:
Attention SCO: Your plan has worked!
I'm migrating from MS to Linux right now in preparation for the incentives to migrate away later.
********* sig: If you don't like the law, get filthy stinking rich, and buy a better one.
Where the hell do i sign up before they go bankrupt?
They are nuts.. or really hitting the drugs hard.
I still dont understand their desire to destroy linux, if it wasnt for linux, caldera would never have had the capital to purchase SCO and start this lunacy..
---- Booth was a patriot ----
Obviously Google has been infiltrated, and the search algorithm tampered with from the inside, by the Slashdot Cliche Order (SCO for short).
Auto-reply to ACs: "Truly, you have a dizzying intellect."
1. Switch from Linux to FreeBSD
2. Get money from SCO
3. Switch back
4. Lather, rinse, repeat
If my call is important, why am I talking to a recording?
Microsoft is allowing, via its "Shared Source Licensing Plan" for companies to take a look at selects portions of the windows source code.
Call me a nut, but I've half a mind to believe that MS is floating this whole SCO mess as a trial balloon, to probe the defenses of the open source community, and plans to have its' own code "stolen" and incorporated into Linux.
That way they can move from a "Cold War" by proxy to a direct attack on Linux and open source.
And more tin foil: who do you suppose might be responsible for the root backdoor that someone tried to slip into the kernel recently...?
-dameronx
First: Collect underpants The second step is unknown The third step: Profit!
This post is free (as in cheese in a mousetrap).
More like that one Daffy Duck short where he's on stage, struggling mightily to get ANY kind of audience reaction.
He sings, he dances, and the audience just yawns. Finally he uses his one remaining sure-fire act to get a reaction. He swills down a bottle of nitroglycerin and makes himself explode.
And the crowd goes wild, but meanwhile, nothing but of Daffy remains except for a black stain. That's what this whole thing is:
Daffy, until it explodes and there's nothing left.
Help fight continental drift.
Everyone I talk to says "Oh SCO has Boies, he's a great lawyer".
Then I think to myself, what has Mr. Boies done that makes him great? Let's look at his high profile cases:
1> Microsoft Anti-Trust ("won" even though MS is still a monopoly and abusing it's power more than ever, and the settlement was a weak blow off at best)
2> Gore 2000 in Florida. (LOST)
and now
SCO
So why does everyone think this kid is hot shit?
Please send all UCE to scally@devolution.com so I can f
SCO is offering _discounts_ on licenses.
Meaning if you switch over to another OS now you don't end up oweing SCO the full license for linux ($699 or something) that they're claiming you now owe. You'll probably just end up oweing a mere $500 (or whatever - even I couldn't stomach reading the details on that in the article).
I have a second sig, I call it sig#2.
"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake." Napoleon Bonaparte (1769 - 1821)
ssshhhh - Let's make sure they pull out enough rope to hang themselves.
Oh wait, they've already done that.
and it turns out that SCO have been lying all the way does this make MS guilty of conspiracy to defraud?
If so, who at MS will be held responsible for the decision because it's quite hard to believe that a minion at Microsoft could take a decision of this magnitude.
Scene 1:
Prison Cell containing two men. The fatter of the two seems to be dancing in a style something akin to a monkey......
Fat man....
That's another fine mess you've got us into Darl....
Darl...... (add own blubbery weeping noise here)
Hmmmmmm..... Deep fried and look like Squirrel.
>[W]hy isn't the DOJ all over this like ugly on
>an ape?
What makes you so sure that anything illegal is going on? Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean the US has any grounds to make a Federal case out of it. I don't like it either, but it may very well be that everyone involved is coloring within the lines.
*Just* *barely* in the lines, maybe, but what's so obviously illegal here that you're dumbfounded?
Until someone puts on a deposition swearing that they own someone else's property, or else, reveals that they knowingly lied in court about the purloined code, there probably isn't any meat on this bone.
The stock stuff isn't anything, despite people screaming "pumpndump! pumpndump!!", it's simply legal and above the board, period.
Now if someone goes into a court room and/or makes a deposition with false statements, KNOWINGLY makes false statements, THEN you have the case that will put that individual behind bars. Won't happen though. This case isn't going to see the inside of a courtroom, period.
-fb Everything not expressly forbidden is now mandatory.
ok. let's just say sco does have ip in linux. and let's say they can bypass the gpl and charge for it. neither are likely true, but just humour me here. now let's say that they expect scosource to be their future revenue stream.
just pretend all of that is true, factual and on the level. say it's possible and what sco is honestly planning on.
how in the fuck does this latest move make any sense even in that nightmare fairie tale?
"here, you folks have violated our ip, we plan on continuing to charge you and, oh, by the way, here's some money to buy our competitors products so you won't have to pay us anymore."
is it any wonder that sco never took the unix world by storm in over a decade?
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MS has paid millions of dollars to a company that has NOTHING to offer them except FUD against Linux. And now that company is paying people not to use Linux.
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There is a post at 5 interesting with a link to how much MS has been backing SCO . .
Sdelat' Ameriku velikoy Snova!
However, IBM helped Novell buy SuSE, AG. And since Novell is the REAL owner of the UNIX IP, I am waiting on pins and needles for them to lay the smack down on the Smoking Crack Organization. Which is going to happen. Soon. That's the first thing I thought when the SuSE/Novell deal went down.
Knowledge is power. Knowledge shared is power multiplied.
How in God's name can so few smoke so much in so little time??
Damn, and I thought the people on the west side were bad!
..the entire world looking up from whaetver they are doing for a brief moment and vaguely mumbling:
"what? er.. yeah right - whatever.."
Before installing Linux on another 100 Intel servers, and a z-series.. (try doing that with SCO unix..)
Nobody's listening any more SCO - your outbursts have become so far fetched, you're like the kid that invents ever more unlikely stories to get attention. These guys are like parasites - they no longer create, but are desperate to get a slice of any pie going. Give it up - even if you won every court action from here til the next century - no one will do business with you ever again..
I think we all realise by now that all of this is most likely a bizarre situation engineered to raise cash on SCO shares. Ignore them - they only want attention.
How does this make sense from a business perspective?
Simple - they're using MPAA/RIAA math!
See, for every person who uses your IP for free, you lose money - so you figure out how much you're losing per unit, and offer people less money than that to not use your IP..
For example, if SCO determines that they're losing $100 per Linux server, and there are currently 100,000 people running Linux that would take them up on their offer, then all they have to do is offer people $50 to not run Linux.. then Viola! They've now made a positive difference of $50,000,000 to their bottom line!
Disclaimer: although I'm currently drunk, this makes perfect sense to me. I may or may not feel the same way once I've sobered up.
The Masters Of The Universe do not want you to be free. Period.
Ergo, Open Source, non-corporate software MUST be destroyed. By whatever means. SCO, whether they realize it or not, (and I suspect they do), exists for the sole purpose of disabling this aspect of humanity.
Waaay back when the first industrial grain grinding mills were being built by the land owners, the town sherif, (i.e., the hired representative of the gentry), would go around and see that all the hand mills in all the peasant households were dragged out and smashed. It was now illegal for people to mill their own corn. What was once free, was now something they HAD to pay for. --All in the best interest of social advancement, of course. The gentry always had a rational-sounding argument, which in the end, just reduced the power of the populace. The the same reasoning is used today in order to shift publically owned utilities over to private and corporate ownership. And many people, (you can witness many examples right here on Slashdot) still believe they are not being lied to. --The argument for competition, being that it creates real incentive to make the best products sounds great except this line of argument ALWAYS leaves out the undeniable reality that when a handful of corporations own everything, it is virtually guranteed that artificial price-fixing WILL take place, and that products will start to decline in quality and effectiveness in such a way that people will need to buy twice as much as before in order to get the same job done. It's all about the elite trying to squeeze an under-educated public into supporting them.
In regard to SCO, nothing has changed since the days of the illegal hand mills, except in the level of sneakiness through which the ends are achieved. SCO's primary purpose, while it is profit motivated, it is not all in the way most people believe it to be. It's much, much bigger, and it's part of a war which has been going on for centuries.
-FL
I did. And yes, it runs Linux. Knoppix HD install. It's a thing of beauty. Ha ha IN YOUR FACE, Darth McBride!!!
Knowledge is power. Knowledge shared is power multiplied.
Lessee, just in the last week:
1. Bill Gates publicly admitted in an interview that Windows will never be secure without a firewall to protect it from the Internet.
2. Details about and early betas of Longhorn, Microsoft's next big Windows rewrite are the big buzz around the 'net.
3. SCO promises to pay people to switch to anything else but Linux. Here's a company that was selling an OS but bleeding money at a furious rate until they got a generous transfusion of M$ cash.
4. Red Hat, a company who worked very hard to fuse two incompatible desktop GUIs for Linux into one seemless whole, drops all support for desktop Linux and concentrates on "Enterprise" customers.
5. Someone hacked the CVS site for the Linux kernel attempting to install a vulnerability.
Hmmmm, does any of this connect for anyone else? Or just me? Where did I put that tinfoil hat?
[donning tinfoil hat]
Suppose Microsoft, having tried for years to plug the innumerable holes in their OS and failing miserably, decided to de-emphasize server support and concentrate on the desktop where their strength has always been. Red Hat decides to play nice with Microsoft by dropping all efforts at the desktop in return for which they get better cooperation (short term, naturally) from Microsoft and provide servers to Enterprises that have mainly Windows desktops right now. SCO discourages people from trying Linux the only way that hasn't been tried yet (since nothing else worked!) by actually paying people to use anything else! At the same time, tiring of predicting the infusion of Linux viruses that never occurred, some desperate Windows user actually tries to create a hole for one by sneaking source into the kernel; it doesn't work this time, hope those guys are even more vigilant now! Meanwhile, Microsoft has delayed its release of the much-hyped Longhorn for another year. Why?
I predict that all of this is just a holding action against Linux. The SCO suit is slated for a court date sometime in 2005, providing there re no more delays. Wanna bet there are? Just enough to drag it out to 2006, the release date for Longhorn. In the meantime, Red Hat will hold the line against many competing Linuxes. Concentrating the market for Enterprise servers in one company makes an easy target for Microsoft. In the meantime, Microsft has bought enough time to write many, many incompatibilities into Longhorn. When Longhorn is released, I'll bet it totally doesn't work with anything except Microsoft server software. Red Hat will be crushed, SCO will disapear and Linux will find itself trying to conform to a thousand incompatibilities in Longhorn.
[doffing tinfoil hat]
As for me, the choice of OS is easy now. After seeing Microsoft throw in the towel and seeing that virus writers are so desperate to get any virus into Linux that they actually tried to sneak bad code into the kernel to do it, Linux is the OS for me. Who knows what will happen in 3 years? Maybe there will be enough apps that I damned well don't care what windows is by then. I almost don't now.
Don't Faustian bargains usually cost you your immortal soul?
"Freedom means freedom for everybody" -- Dick Cheney
Linux has a higher TCO than Windows.
I could not justify my existence if I were a turkey farmer. Would I terminate myself? Undoubtably, yes.
Sign right below the line that says, "Contract with SCO, a newly-acquired beeyatch of Microsoft, Inc."
You can't judge a book by the way it wears its hair.
Paul Murphy at E Commerce Times
m l
http://www.ecommercetimes.com/perl/story/31932.ht
has an absolutely insane article about this whole mess. Mind you, 98% of the article is completely nuts as it basically blames IBM, or anyone else, for not paying off SCO already. He does not understand that paying off the mob is bad social policy and that Linux is about social policy, but I digress.
Here is one interesting part:
- - -
# SCO is attacking the entire Linux community.
It is not. Responses from SuSE Latest News about SuSE and Red Hat to the contrary, the SCO demand for license fees from Linux users was classic legal fiction. Both key SCO executives -- Darl McBride and Chris Sontag -- have said repeatedly that they are trying to work through issues to achieve justice without putting "a hole in the head of the penguin."
Most people find these license claims outrageous, but think about the drivers behind the demand and you might yet see SCO as a victim of its own lawyers and the way the courts operate.
Fundamentally, the court eventually will require SCO to show a quantitative, market-based derivation for the value of damages claimed. Demanding license fees is one way of establishing that basis -- and one likely to appeal to lawyers acting on contingency because a few successful sales would suffice to establish an enormous fair-market value.
- - -
Terrifyingly, this almost makes sense. If SCO can set a "high" license value on their property, they can then multiply this by the number of Linux systems to get their damages. It only takes a couple of bozos (or co-conspirators) to create "license sales" that can then be multiplied out. This is not too disimilar from the RIAA / WebCasting royalty calculations. Take what Yahoo will pay during the bubble, and then try to get everyone else to empty their pockets. It is very likely that they are not trying to actually get licenses, but that they are trying to establish a "market value" that is to their favor.
If this is actually their plan, then it is not only SCO that needs taken down, but their lawyers as well.
I think the most common comment I've seen on slashdot apart from anti SCO sentiments is "I'd switch to a mac tomorrow if I could afford it..."
:)
Combine the two!
Switch to a mac tomorrow, and use SCO to subsidise the switch. Hell, switch ALL your linux boxes to macs and get a really big subsidy. Put SCO's money where your mouth is
I've been thinking of selling SCO short, because they OBVIOUSLY cannot win this lawsuit. However ... if the endgame is that Microsoft buys SCO, then selling SCO short would be a mistake.
-russ
Don't piss off The Angry Economist
Wasn't sure how to post the message as a link...
"A somewhat more realistic interpretation of "Migration path with
discounts" would go more like this:
1) You already owe SCO money for their IP that you are using in Linux, 2) SCO
knows this was unintentional and says "Hey, we know you didn't mean to
infringe our IP, but you did. Since it was accidental, we'll charge you LESS
if you stop infringing our IP quickly by converting to something that does not
infringe our IP"
Basically extend the licensing that they were already doing:
$699 - Binary license
$599 - License current and prior use of SCO owned Linux IP on one server and
migrate that server to xBSD within 6 months.
$499 - License current and prior use of SCO owned Linux IP on one server and
migrate that server to HP-UX within 6 months
$299 - License current and prior use of SCO owned Linux IP on one server and
migrate that server to Windows 200x within 6 months
The discount is to what you pay THEM, and does not affect what the other vendor
charges you for their OS."
Phew! I'm relieved to see all they are doing is expressing that which they hold deep within their hearts -- the desire to see companies everywhere strive to charge large sums of money for anything useful. And for the willingness of the population to scoff in the direction of anything with a 'less than snazzy' pricetag. I was actually worried that they were selfish bastards who thought nothing of anyone but themselves. They're really just trying to preserve the American Dream, how incredibly noble of these good 'ol boys.
Speak for yourself.
The company was obviously crippled by the other 60%. The fact that the company survived this long is testament to Linux's wholesome GNUey goodness! :-D
Should the parent die at age 54? Does Netcraft confirm the death of the joke?
Questions, questions.