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Windows Media Player 9 for Mac OS X Available
corsa writes "I found Windows Media Player 9 for Mac OS X on Microsoft's site today. I downloaded it and have it running under Panther. It seems to play WMV9 files, at least the few I've tried so far."
I've already downloaded and installed this and it is without a doubt one of the worse releases of a piece of software I've seen. In the past my copy of Media Player would at least run some of the videos that QuickTime wouldn't, now nothing. I've tried running every WMV file I could get my hands on and none of them play. It seems that Microsoft has chosen to go with less functionality, not more.
It's an interesting move for Microsoft, especially after the release of iTunes for Windows. Apple is doing it's best to convert Microsoft users by offering them incredible software. Microsoft is offering Mac users shitty knockoffs of Windows software.
I'm guessing this is a gambit to make Mac users realize they can't have the cross-platform operability that OSX seemed to bring about, that if they want to use Windows files they should run Windows. Ultimately I think the frustration that people will feel towards the new Media Player will cause even more resentment towards Microsoft. Apple's attitude that you lure more flies with Aqua than you do with water is definately the winning strategy.
If you don't already know (and chances are if you're reading Slashdot you do), you should be using VLC. It does everything this crappy Windows port does and more.
It seems to me that microsoft might only be releasing this as just another piece of software for the MacOS, unless of course, they will be using it as part of a music store like the itunes version, just crappy and with a bad file type. We all know how that would go over within the mac community. It also does not seem like they would be releasing this to steal the thunder from another product's new release, so here is the question...WHY BOTHER? Quicktime already exists, and there are many other better file codecs and ecoders for that matter out there than the .wma junk...
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The true goal of MS is to only write for only one platform. They will soon cut off the Mac BU's ability to update Office v.X and force users to purchase the *new* Mac Office suite: Virtual PC and Office for Windows. Windows Media Player 9 ain't that bad, but the fact that MS refuses to update the UI just reinforces what I wrote above. WiMP is just a horribly media application for the Mac....and for good reason.
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I installed it yesterday and the installer changed the icon on my Applications folder from the default to the stuffit exapnder icon. This release is truely rushed. The wmv file i threw at it, it couldn't even play it. MPlayerOSX had no problems playing that same file.
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I downloaded this this afternoon and every chunk of porn I threw at yielded the same results:
mozilla launching to a page about media rights or something...
hmmmm...
It has since been deleted.
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WMP for OS X sucks, pure and simple. On a 1.25Ghz CPU with 1Gb of RAM running a fresh install of Panther, WMP 9 started struggling on a local file after 20-30 seconds, stuttering and skipping frames. Use VLC and hope that they integrate all the annoying Microsoft proprietary codecs soon.
Interestingly, RealPlayer isn't bad at all on the Mac. I held off on installing it for quite a while after seeing all the baggage that came with a Windows install, but it's pretty clean and seems to stream video well.
Exhibit A, being Internet Explorer, a shady alternative to Safari that comes packaged with OS X... when, sitting right next to it is a faster, smaller, and more functional program for the same purpose - Safari. Not much of a blow for Microsoft functionality, there.
Exhibit B, being Microsoft Virtual PC 2004 - a previously wonderful piece of virtual machine software produced by Connectix, which will no longer support Linux in the new version, as described here
And, finally, WMP9, a decidedly crap piece of software, as described by all those unfortunate enough to use it. Pity, poor fools.
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Lets see what's new: With WMP 9, your web browser is able to play WM files right within the browser. Unfortunately, MS didn't go far enough in working on these plugins -- so far only Safari, and (two "dead" browsers) Netscape and Mac IE are supported.
OK, MSN Explorer for Mac is supported, too, but for example, WM is as dead as before in Camino 0.7+. I bet I'm not alone in wondering what's the thinking behind the plugin development for browsers which development has been abandoned.
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Maybe Microsoft is just out to get you. I installed this new version on Saturday, and while its interface could use some work, I found the media support to be a million times better than the last version of WMP for OS X. It not only played the files that the last version wouldn't, but several files that had audio or video glitches when played with the last version now played flawlessly. Perhaps your installation got screwed up? Try reinstalling it, and more importantly, deleting its existing files from ~/Library/Preferences before you reinstall (this second part actually fixed an issue on my friend's machine).
And, while VLC is great, I have still come across a number of files (Windows Media in particular) that it won't play correctly or won't play at all. My best solution has come down to keeping updated versions of QuickTime, RealOne, Windows Media Player, VLC, and Mplayer around. In my experience, this has been the only way to make sure I can play every media file I come across.
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I agree, RealPlayer has done a great job with their Mac player. It's small, doesn't hog system resources and an easy install. Everything that WMP should have been.
Isn't it odd when RealPlayer comes off as more professional than Microsoft... Well, maybe not that weird.
However I'm not complaining too much, because some WMV files which VLC could not play for me, run fine. (I haven't tried MPlayer for OS X so I can't comment on that.) And on my 1 GHz G4, it's reasonably fast, and not crash-y. Ugly interface by Apple standards, but actually better than I might have expected. Much less ugly than the Windows version of the player.
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I just ran the Installer over 7.1.3 (the latest previously available for OS X). No reboot was requested (isn't that odd for a MS product) but it would not run. So I re-installed 7.1.3 (again, without any sort of uninstall) and now I had audio for that BBC program! I re-installed 9 (again, not bothering with the uninstall) and the video still plays. So, I am happy as this version fixes at least some things!
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MPlayerOSX kicks ass. MPlayer rules on every platform I use it on and plays nearly every format possible, especially with the add-on codecs (soon to be Slashdotted). I don't even need Quicktime anymore except for sentimental reasons.
Seeing as how WMV9 was only available on Windows and Microsoft is pushing it as a format for many media industries... doesn't this seem like a minimum effort to fend off claims that they are once again using Windows to establish a monopoly, this time on DRM media consumption?
IF they use their market penetration to convince vendors, ie: force vendors, to use WMV9 as their preferred format for streaming and DRMed media then they could be accused of monopolizing that industry through anti-competitive means.
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The parent in this thread was asking about 6.3, available only for Classic. The installer left my Classic version of Windows Media Player 7 alone, so I can't imagine it effecting 6.3. Yes, after the install WiMP 7 for OS X disappeared, but that was the point wasn't it? I never followed the debate about 6.3 having advantages over 7.1, so I can't comment there.
As has been pointed out by others, the Mactopia site still lists the previous (7.1) version, so you should at least be able to return to that. I don't know where you can find 6.3 (if that's what you really need), but here's the answer to the parent question:
Windows Media Player for Mac OS X
WindowsMediaInstaller.hqx
Windows Media Player 7.1 for Mac
WMPlayer7_1_EN.hqx
I paid the going retail price for a Windows screen reader and got a free Unix computer!
i still can't play my drm porn files. wtf?!?! the faq basically says "tough luck." blah. that's ok, i've plenty of drm free porn! speaking of which... it's time to box the clown.
Although according to some the developers and install (www.linuxworld.com/story/32880.htm) are not the best things in the world Mplayer has done a lot of good work with the codecs (for instance VLC doesn't play a lot of my WM movies). Thankfully for Mac folks devros javol klokan-pp and team have trimmed the install to that magical DMG mount, drap, drop. Check it out at VersionTracker (_much_ easier than sourceforge website) www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/16623 P.S. Sorry about not using but for some reason they were not showing up and I am late to class@@
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I did not have a previous version of Windows Media Player installed on my Mac so I did not experience any of the upgrade annoyances that seem to be plaguing some of the posters. The reason for this is because the previous version's installer kept crashing and I never managed to get it to work. The current installer seems to actually install. Microsoft has already exceeded my expectations, which were not very high to begin with.
The Good: So far, it's played every single .wmp file that I've thrown at it without any problem whatsoever, and I can finally listen to the archived radio shows on my favorite radio station KEXP.ORG. Since I pretty much only use Safari now, the lack of support for Camino is not as irksome to me as it might be to others.
The Bad: It changes the file association for the files that it plays from the default (VLC on my Mac) to Media Player without asking. It also quits the application when you close the window that you're playing... rather than just closing the window and leaving the app open. Not very Mac-like behavior...
The Ugly: It's kind of ugly looking. I can hope that someone will come up with a skin that better approximates that OS X look pretty soon.
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If you've installed OS X on a UFS filesystem, the Media Player installer hangs.
The release notes do say Media Player doesn't work on UFS, but I was hoping to install it on the HFS+ partition I keep around for such things. There's no way to tell Media Player to install anywhere other than the Applications folder, and apparently no way to move the Applications folder to another drive, so I guess I'm stuck.
There are windows UI standards? Hah, that's the biggest load of crap I've heard in awhile.