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LotR RotK Premiere Today In New Zealand

donnz writes "Things are getting a little out of hand in Wellington today. For those of you who have not spent the night sleeping on the sidewalk CityLink have been wiring up webcams all over the place. Keep up with all the news and links on Stuff.co.nz. Just to show we are twice blessed, the sun is shining."

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  1. LOTR ROFK Premier... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    ROFL.

    1. Re:LOTR ROFK Premier... by Savatte · · Score: 2, Funny

      So if today is the premiere, shouldn't a torrent have been posted last week?

  2. Using Linux and KDE by sultanoslack · · Score: 3, Informative

    It's also cool to note that they're using Linux and KDE in some of the rendering. See here for more details and screenies.

    1. Re:Using Linux and KDE by Raindance · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I believe they used the linux platform as well to orchestrate the battles; in the massive melees they set up a bunch of orc and human models, defined their movement, gave them scripts and defined their objective as 'stay alive, and kill those not of your type', gave them scripts pointing to these objectives, and just *let them do their thing*.

      Much of the battle at Helmsdeep, for instance, is AI program vs AI program. Awesome.

      *of course, the first time they tried it, the humans broke ranks and just ran away from the orcs. What does that say?

      RD

    2. Re:Using Linux and KDE by 1984 · · Score: 4, Informative
      "...using Linux and KDE in some of the rendering."

      Linux is a pretty popular platform in the industry. Maya seems to be a little slower on Linux than Windows (don't flame me: talk to Alias). And expect to find tens or hundreds of nodes of Linux-based renderfarm all over the place. All our shots for Matrix III were rendered on Athlons running RedHat.

    3. Re:Using Linux and KDE by remou · · Score: 5, Interesting

      > the first time they tried it, the humans broke ranks and just ran away from the orcs. What does that say?

      Actually according to TTT extended version DVDs, the AI's in the back just started running away from the battle. The reason being that they had programmed the AIs to start running in random directions if they coudn't see an enemy AI, hoping that like this the AIs would run into an ennemy sooner or later. If your AI is at the back of a 10000 people uruquai army, then this strategy won't really work, so they changed it...

      nothing to see here, move on....

    4. Re:Using Linux and KDE by Ryan+Amos · · Score: 4, Insightful

      They don't use Windows because it's a lot harder to write programs and you're pretty much locked into MFC if you want to write anything reasonably complex. On Linux, you get easier access to hardware without having to worry if some of the "black boxes" in Windows are going to get fucked up by messing with certain things. I've said this before and I'll say it again: Windows is not better than Linux, nor is Linux better than Windows. If all you're doing is entering stuff into a spreadsheet and surfing the net, Windows is better. If you need to write a lot of custom applications and don't want to spend years doing it, Linux is the way to go. Different uses demand different tools, which is why Linux will probably never seriously crack the desktop market, but will be (is?) a force to be reckoned with in a lot of "middleware" applications.

    5. Re:Using Linux and KDE by u-235-sentinel · · Score: 5, Funny

      "*of course, the first time they tried it, the humans broke ranks and just ran away from the orcs. What does that say?"

      Sounds like that commercial was right "when the courage of men fail"... :-)

      Good thing we had Aragorn eh ;-)

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    6. Re:Using Linux and KDE by McAddress · · Score: 4, Funny
      You should not be allowed to post on slashdot being that you are not a zealot of one OS.

      Everybody knows they could have done this faster and cheaper if they were running BSD.

      *ducks to avoid flames*

    7. Re:Using Linux and KDE by RevMike · · Score: 3, Informative
      As much fun as the urban myth about the kangaroos shooting the helicopter down cos they forgot to remove the stinger missiles from the infantry models that were converted to kangaroo figures???

      Acording to snopes, the core of this story actually happened, but the story has been elaborated extensively. The programmers did re-use the "infantry" models in the simulation for kangaroos. As a bit of fun early in the project they intentionally left the ability of the kangaroos the kangaroos to fiure back intact, but the kangaroos did not fire stinger missiles. They fired beach balls at the helicopters.

    8. Re:Using Linux and KDE by funkhauser · · Score: 4, Funny
      Everybody knows they could have done this faster and cheaper if they were running BSD.

      Well, they could... if BSD weren't dead already. :)

    9. Re:Using Linux and KDE by msevior · · Score: 3, Insightful

      *sigh* why do people who seem to understand things say this sort of thing. Nothing is static. In fact if all you're doing is entering numbers in a spreadsheet Linux is probally a *better* solution for the desktop.

      Linux loses to Windows on the desktop in the *range* of apps that is available and in the *range* of hardware that's available.

      Linux is not useful to Windows Geeks who inhabit slashdot because it doesn't have all the cool hardware support provided by leading edge hardware supplier. Still there is lots of cool hardware that *does* work well with Linux.

      Linux loses on the 20% of corp desktops that need a range of sophisticated apps. It loses in the consumer market because it doesn't come pre-configured and Johnny -down-the-street who maintains Joe-blows Windows box doesn't know Linux yet.

      Once a beachhead on corp desktop is established for 80% of machines that just do routine things, other opportunities will become available.

      KDE or GNOME are both excellent desktop environments.

    10. Re:Using Linux and KDE by theparanoidcynic · · Score: 2, Funny

      What does that say?
      That evil will always triumph because good is dumb?

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    11. Re:Using Linux and KDE by don.g · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Ha! If you'd come to VUW (the university on a hillside overlooking the wellington CBD) earlier this year, you'd have been able to hear Milton Ngan from Weta talking about it.

      Yet another excuse to plug Interface, the VUW Computer Club, which ran that event (or more accurately, took it over from the CS department): if you're a CS student at VUW, you really should become a member.

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  3. Good for NZers by NightWulf · · Score: 4, Insightful

    As I understand the people of NZ were more than gracious to the film crew. Also who can deny the lush beautiful landscapes that NZ provided. I think it's only fair they get to see the movie a few weeks before we do. On a side note, with the success of a more than excellent translation of LOTR by Jackson, anyone else hoping that one day he may do a King Arthur tale? Perhaps a Once and Future King trilogy?

    1. Re:Good for NZers by old_unicorn · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Once and Future King - YES. The only book that always makes me cry, when Arthur stands up and explains to the hedgehog what it's all about. A brilliant book. There was a Walt Disny thing "Sword in the Stone" that was based in part of it, the lessons from merlin in the moat as a fish, etc, but there is so much more to the books.

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    2. Re:Good for NZers by Leme · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I'd kill for him to do a series based on the A Song of Ice and Fire books by George R.R Martin.

      Really I would.

    3. Re:Good for NZers by mcpkaaos · · Score: 5, Funny

      Strange women lyin' in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a movie trilogy!

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    4. Re:Good for NZers by TrippTDF · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Also who can deny the lush beautiful landscapes that NZ provided. Seriously. A friend of mine spent 6 months in Antarctica at a US research base (he only had an internet connection when a communications satellite was overhead... I think 8 hours a day or something) and then spent 6 months in NZ just traveling around... his photos were amazing, and I half expected to see Gandolf riding a horse in the distance. I would LOVE to go there some day, except I hear it's hard to get into the country sometimes.

    5. Re:Good for NZers by twinpot · · Score: 2, Informative

      The only thing hard about getting into New Zealand is the 27 hour flight from Europe! It's at least three hours flying from Sydney to Wellington.
      If you're from Europe or North America you'll get a tourist visa at point of entry.

    6. Re:Good for NZers by Coryoth · · Score: 5, Informative

      As I understand the people of NZ were more than gracious to the film crew.

      Yeah, but given that most of the film crew were New Zealanders that's not that surprising. A lot of people dont seem to realise, this is largely a New Zealand film. The production money is from New Line, and that's US, but the director (Jackson
      ), screenplay writers (Jackson, Walsh, Boyens), casting, film crew, locations, costume design, and even the special effects (Weta Workshops, and Weta Digital) etc. are all New Zealand based. Even a large number of the actors are New Zealand actors - the leads, are, of course, big names from overseas, but many of the minor roles, Haldir, Celeborn, Denethor, Eomer etc. are all New Zealanders.

      And what's the easiest way to get a large army of orcs for battle scenes? Yes, that's right, they used the New Zealand Army!

      New Zealand provided far more than the landscapes - these films are (except for the money) New Zealand films.

      Jedidiah.

    7. Re:Good for NZers by Coryoth · · Score: 4, Informative

      Nothing new there. Films will usually use locals for extras and bit parts, especially when massive amounts of people are needed. Did you think they shipped a ton of people out of Hollywood every time a film was shot elsewhere?

      Sure, but they normally truck in senior people from overseas for direction, production, cinematography, senior camera techs etc. and have all the set and costume design done back home. They usually ship all the film stock back to wherever their from for post prodiuction, special effects, and editing.

      All of these things were done in NZ.

      As I said, the only thing not from New Zeland was pretty much the raw cash from New Line.

      Stop and think for a moment. People are happily calling Weta Digital's work on par with ILM. Weta Digital is a little wee New Zealand company. That alone is a pretty significant achievement for a country as small as NZ.

      At the end of it all, when you watch the opening credits for the film, you'll see "A Wingnut Films presents" - and Wingnut films is Peter Jackson's NZ film company. You'll see the very same words on the intro to "Bad Taste".

      Jedidiah

    8. Re:Good for NZers by Zoshnell · · Score: 3, Funny

      I mean, If I were to claim I was a movie director just because some watery tart threw a scimitar at me, they'd lock me away!

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    9. Re:Good for NZers by Coryoth · · Score: 5, Informative

      I would LOVE to go there some day, except I hear it's hard to get into the country sometimes.

      Yeah, that 20 minute drive can be a real pain in the ass...

      The only hard part is the flight to get there, after that it's pretty easy. The impressive part is that you can go from the beach, to snowcapped mountains, to a rainforest in a day. In fact, if you're a real masochist you can compete in the Speights Coast to Coast, a race from one side of the country, over the Southern Alps, to the other, and see some very impressive scenery on the way. Serious competeors complete the race without stopping. Normal people do the race as a 2 day event.

      Jedidiah.

    10. Re:Good for NZers by MemoryAid · · Score: 5, Funny
      And what's the easiest way to get a large army of orcs for battle scenes? Yes, that's right, they used the New Zealand Army!

      I didn't realize the New Zealand Army was made up of orcs. No wonder they have never been defeated. Any opponents must be terrified. People just aren't used to fighting orcs.

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  4. Re:WHAT!!! by meffie · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Because Peter is from Wellington, and wants to spotlight Wellington on the world stage as his way of thanking NZ.

  5. Re:WHAT!!! by old_unicorn · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why shouldn't some country other than America get the first viewing, for once? Seems fair to me - it was made in NZ after all.

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  6. Premier for the Stars by AnEmbodiedMind · · Score: 5, Informative

    No, this is the premier for the stars... the rest of us New Zealanders will still have to wait a couple more weeks before it is released to the public.

  7. Re:WHAT!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    That's it. NZ has gone too far. We now be forced to liberate them.

    -GWB

  8. Re:This can't end well... by WasterDave · · Score: 3, Informative

    I am 2ms ping away from the webserver on a 10Mbit connection, and I can't get it.

    I think, and I may well be wrong, that there is no description of multicasting on the server. Certainly most of NZ's Internet infrastructure isn't multicast capable, and I never did see how they were going to manage to stream this.

    There was a brief effort to get Akamai involved. But ... well. Oh well.

    Dave

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  9. Re:WHAT!!! by darkpurpleblob · · Score: 5, Informative
    why not do a world wide release all at the same time?
    Dude, this is only the premiere. The rest of us here in New Zealand only get to see it from December 18th, like (AFAIK) everywhere else.
  10. Some more webcams by trystanu · · Score: 2, Informative

    These don't seem to be /.ed yet, at least, they're working for me (sourced from http://www.wellingtonnz.com/cam/cam/index.html) Downtown Courtenay Place (http://palantir.citylink.co.nz/courtenay/) Uptown Courtenay Place (http://webcam.citylink.co.nz/reading/) The red carpet (live 12noon NZ time) (http://palantir.citylink.co.nz/midland-park/ and http://palantir.citylink.co.nz/traffic/) Unfortunately no cams yet running from *inside* the cinema If you live in NZ, you can get some visit live streaming cams from the link above.

  11. Some more webcams by trystanu · · Score: 5, Informative
    With some HTML formatting:

    These don't seem to be /.ed yet, at least, they're working for me (sourced from here). Unfortunately there aren't any cams running from *inside* the cinema as yet.

    If you live in NZ, you can get some visit live streaming cams from the link above.
  12. LotR RotK? by BigJimSlade · · Score: 4, Funny

    STFU! I was ROTFL when I saw the NZ link on /. was totally FUBAR. I couldn't even RTFA!

  13. Jackson Says Best of the Series by ackthpt · · Score: 4, Informative
    Follow the link. Not much else, statistics, dollars earned, blah blah blah.

    Here's hoping he's right. November's been a bit of a let down. Matrix Revolutions blew chunks (but nice CGI), Cat in the Hat is outright stupid and Timeline was underwhelming. Kill Bill Vol 1, however, was very cool and I'm looking forward to Feb. 20 to see Vol 2. (Did anyone else think of Sergio Leone's work while watching Kill Bill?)

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  14. Re:Big deal! by Kenja · · Score: 3, Insightful
    So by "truly dedicated" you must mean unscrupulous little weasels who want to access others work without contributing anything of their own or reimbursing others for their time?

    It all ways amazes me that people claiming to be "true fans" do whatever they can to ensure that there wont be any thing for them to pirate in the future.

    I'm starting to think that the RIAA may have a point, that's a disturbing thought. Must get drunk now.

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  15. I'm here... by deminisma · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Sitting in my living room about 20mins walk from the Embassy where the premiere is taking place. To be honest, I find the excitement the whole city is experiencing a little embarrassing. All four of our free-to-air television stations are doing specials tonight, the Dominion Post newspaper devotes the entire first three pages to it. I mean, really it is just a film premiere.
    Nevertheless, some of the buildings around Wellington look fantastic, a few adorned with giant models from Weta. I believe the red carpet is over 400 metres long, spanning the length of Courtenay Place, one of our largest streets.
    Should be interesting, but really the hype is almost unbearable.

    Just letting Slashdot know not every Wellingtonian is so damn excitable!

  16. In related news... (LOTR onion-style humour) by stendec · · Score: 4, Funny
    Islidur dissapointed to find Gladden Fields already littered with corpses, rings.
    Dwarven metal-detector only turns up bottlecaps, shattered armor of comrades.

    Isildur, eldest son and heir of Elendil, was dissapointed late afternoon last Monday when his attempt to find the ring which slipped off his finger failed. "I was lookining all through the muck, between the reeds and shrubs, and I even wrestled a Gladden Gator to see if it accidentally swallowed it." The King of both Arnor and Gondor then employed his three sons to aid in the search. After much searching amongst the reeds, Elendur, eldest of Isildur's four sons, shouted in the gloom, "I have located it, father!" Unfortunately, upon putting the ring on, Elendur did not dissappear, leaving the red embarrasement on his face plain to the eye. "Must be some other ring," he grumbled. The many corpses strewn across the Gladden Fields did not help the endeavour either. "All of this cracked and broken armor is really throwing off the metal detector. It's like trying to find a needle in a bloody, corpse-strewn haystack. I can only hope my insurance covers this." When pressed for comment, Lloyd's of London only said that "Insurance for rings of power laden with the capability of invisibility is not available, not even for a king of the Numenoreans, largely because "invisible rings" are a huge source of insurance fraud." Later on in the day, the heir of Elendil was slain by an orc. "I can only hope the One Ring is not found by some scheming, hideous halfling-like creature which eminates bubbling-like noises, or else all is lost," he said in his dying words, before another arrow punctured his larynx.

  17. Have you read Saruman's Diary? by ackthpt · · Score: 2, Funny

    Humorous diary of Saruman

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  18. LOTR prequels? by tepples · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'm waiting for the prequels: The Hobbit, episode 2, and episode 3, however the Tolkien family and Peter Jackson decide to write them.

    1. Re:LOTR prequels? by dspeyer · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Maybe not quite that many, but I still think the Lay of Luthien would make a great movie. It's about the right length; it already has romance, and it rides LotR's coat-tails nicely. Seriously!

  19. Re:Big deal! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I had pirates of both FOTR ant TTT, saw them at the movies AND bought the DVD's. What possible fucking problem could the movie industry have with that? Of course these are films that I actually want to watch. I was given a bunch of 'blockbusting' VCD's by a friend, I've not watched any of them nor will I be bothering. Perhaps they can add that to their piracy stats, even if you give me the films I have better things to do than watch the garbage.

  20. Re:WHAT!!! by sugar+and+acid · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Well it's the premiere, so it is an invite only kind of deal.

    Kiwis will have the first opportunity to see it when it is officially released to. Comes from being on the right side of the international date line, it's the official date for release a good 12hrs ahead of the US. Also makes for good new years celebration, the first to see in the new year and it's the middle of summer to (so big outdoor parties etc.).

  21. Yes, but... by FunWithHeadlines · · Score: 4, Funny
    "Just letting Slashdot know not every Wellingtonian is so damn excitable!"

    Yes, but then you did just post to /. about the story, so...

    ;)

  22. The biggest creche in Wellington by phobonetik · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Woah - walk to work at 9am along coutenay place, and I'm sure every teen girl is along the red carpet -- heaps of them with sleeping bags ! :P Can't imagine how busy it will be this afternoon - given the 'parade' is what - atleast 5km long?

    1. Re:The biggest creche in Wellington by phobonetik · · Score: 2, Funny

      Hah - just found out my (15 yo) sister went down with her friends there at about 2am in the morning :P

  23. Re:WHAT!!! by Coryoth · · Score: 5, Informative

    not fair. why not do a world wide release all at the same time?

    Because it is a New Zealand film, and Peter wants to have the first screening in his home town? Seems pretty fair to me. I remember when this decision was made - it was at the New Zealand Two Towers Premiere with Peter making a speech to the crowd (and there was a huge crowd). He got Mark Ordesky (high level New Line exec) up on the platform with him and put him on the spot with "And the Return of the King world premiere will be here in Wellington, wont it Mark". Ordesky, faced with the possibility of pissing of the 10,000 or so gathered people sheepishly said yes. After that Jackson just used that as New Line, saying on public record, that the premiere was going to be in Wellington so New Line couldn't work their way out of it.

    This is a huge thing for New Zealand. Pretty much everyone I know from Wellington (even me) was involved in making the film in one way or another. The whole country collectively got behind the production of this film - they deserve a little something in return.

    Jedidiah.

  24. Re:Windows only web streams? by LightStruk · · Score: 4, Informative
    Yes, MPlayer will play them. Just make sure you have the latest codec packs installed. Or, on Gentoo,
    # emerge mplayer
    # emerge win32codecs
  25. Here's another by stendec · · Score: 4, Funny
    Undead Witch King Riding Through Hobbiton Raises Only A Few Eyebrows

    Late Thursday evening, local hobbit Ted Sandyman was only mildly surprised to see the Witch-king of Angmar, Lord of the Nazgul, riding down the road leading up and over The Hill. "Aye, sir, I was a-walkin' down the road to go do some fishin' at the Bywater Pool when up comes this surly fellow all in black," the miller's son commented. "He says to me, he says 'Where can I find Bagginsssss' in a real gruff voice, as if he's the Lord of Angmar, much like. I give him the ol' long look and says straight to his face, 'If it's Baggins you want, then go up-on The Hill. But you look mighty famished, sir, as if you didna' eat for a few centuries.' I then offers him to come over to the mill for some biscuits and the like but 'ee says he hasn't 'et anything for a few centuries 'cuz he's been dead for a few centuries. Than he went a-gallopin' up to the Hill, not even bothering to bid me a good day." Another hobbit, Millo Burrow, also saw the forsaken slave of the second dark lord stroll through the town. "It musta been noon-day when I sees him. He was a-ridin' a black horse, and so at first I thought it was old Mr. Butterbur come from Bree on an errand, but no: I look closer and, bless my hide, it's the Lord of Angmar. I shrug my shoulders and go on my way, seein' as it's no business of mine as to what an eternally damned witch king is doin' in town. Prolly buying some fine Hobbiton cheese, no doubt."

  26. It's the little touches by robschone · · Score: 5, Funny

    My cellphone has just started reporting that I am now located in "MiddlEarth" instead of "Wgtn CBD", you can't do anything here (Wellington obviously) today without some Lord of the Rings theme affecting it.

    1. Re:It's the little touches by devphil · · Score: 5, Funny


      See if your cellphone is now on the PalantirNet[tm] service plan. If it is, try not to touch it if the LCD screen shows a glowing eye, okay?

      --
      You cannot apply a technological solution to a sociological problem. (Edwards' Law)
    2. Re:It's the little touches by holloway · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Same here :)

      I took some photos, see Photos from ROTK premiere

  27. Oh get a grip! by Snaller · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Everybody decent on the production has been paid for their work. Its only the greedy bastards at newline which expect to keep cashing in again and again on the work of other people. Its fair they make their money back, its fair they make a profit - but its sick amoral greed when that profit ends up being 40000%

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    1. Re:Oh get a grip! by phantumstranger · · Score: 2, Insightful
      its sick amoral greed when that profit ends up being 40000%

      No, it's people BUYING products that drive profits up. I'm tired of people blaming companies for trying to make money instead of treating all these customers like the lemmings they are for buying into whatever is out there.

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  28. It's also interesting by Snaller · · Score: 2, Interesting

    that Peter Jackson supposedly finished the last cuts, this wednesday - would be awfully fast to make a DVD screener.

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  29. Re:WHAT!!! by Snoopy77 · · Score: 2, Informative
    They do have kangaroos in New Zealand, don't they?

    Only in the zoo.

    Despite the fact that our countries (Australia and NZ) are geographically close we have vastly different flora and fauna. Additionally our indigenous people only share the same skin colour.

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  30. Review that's not really a review... by A+Fortiori · · Score: 4, Informative

    ...by nz herald reviewer not allowed to spill the beans until after the premiere.

  31. New respect for TTT by devphil · · Score: 4, Funny


    If Jackson says it's the best, I'm willing to take his word for it. (Until I see it for myself, and even then I'll probably agree with him, because I have done so in the past.)

    I've been watching the making-of interviews and listening to the commentary tracks on the Extended Two Towers DVD With Extra Ass-Kicking And Shiny Bits. Jackson and Walsh explain their reasoning behind the "controversial" decisions (Elves at Helm's Deep, no Shelob, Faramir's initially a jerk, side trip to Osgiliath, etc). The decisions are actually all chained together. And now that I've heard the screenwriter's/director's side of the story, instead of just /. ravings, I have to admit that they probably made the right decisions.

    (Okay, maybe not about the Elves showing up. I'm still on deciding that one. The lack of Shelob (leading to the trip to Osgiliath) makes more sense now.)

    There's a great comment by Bernard Hill, who played Theoden. (Background: Many of the desired accents changed during the course of filming, and of course there's script rewrites and background noise and whatnot, so almost every actor had to go into a soundbooth at the end and record some overdubs of his/her previous lines.) Anyhow, Hill was recording the lines where the Elves walk into the fortress and he comes running down the stairs. As a joke on Peter Jackson, instead of "How is this possible?", he recorded:

    "Who the fucking hell let you lot in the gate?"

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    1. Re:New respect for TTT by nagora · · Score: 2, Insightful
      And now that I've heard the screenwriter's/director's side of the story, instead of just /. ravings, I have to admit that they probably made the right decisions.

      Err, the screenwriter's/directors side of the story was on the screen. If their reasons have to be clarified by a commentary then they were the wrong reasons. This is a movie, not a seminar.

      TWW

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    2. Re:New respect for TTT by blancolioni · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Answer 1: The movies were based on the book. The movies did certain things differently. It was interesting to find out why.

      Answer 2: The movies were not seminars, but the commentary tracks sort of were. Hence, a seminar-like approach was appropriate.

      Answer 3: Making a movie requires thousands of individual decisions, each of which can be individually justified (or not) without crossing the line from movie to seminar.

    3. Re:New respect for TTT by nagora · · Score: 2, Insightful
      The main problems with Osgiliath were that Frodo shows the ring to a nazgul who doesn't then have the entire contents of Mordor emptied onto their heads (the ring being much more important than an attack some little city) and then, having seen Frodo almost throw the whole world away, Faramir decides that he was wrong not to let Frodo and Sam wander into the heart of Sauron's territory.

      Osgiliath is idiot-plotting at its worst: it only works if you assume that everyone involved, Faramir, Frodo, the Nazgul, are idiots.

      Plus, it achieved nothing else other than undermining Faramir's nobility and Frodo's intelligence. If Jackson wanted a scene in Osgiliath there's no reason he couldn't have simply had the camera/audience follow Faramir after the hobbits leave him. Why bother diverging from the book here? It didn't save screen time or budget and did nothing for the story, so why do it at all?

      TWW

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  32. Need books first by mrgeometry · · Score: 2, Funny

    A lot of people would kill just to have the books written already...

  33. CityLink's webcams: Anycast by don.g · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's interesting to note (on a site supposedly containing "News for Nerds", anyway) the preparations CityLink have made to avoid running up a massive internet traffic bill with traffic to their webcams: they're using anycast to distribute content from the server nearest the viewer (thus reducing load on NZ's less than amazingly cheap undersea cables).

    They've got servers in Wellington and Auckland, plugged into both of the (CityLink-run) peering exchanges there, and they've got a box in the US advertising the same prefix (202.7.4.0/24) - so if you're in NZ, and your ISP isn't crap, you'll get the local servers: everyone else will get the box(es?) in the US.

    There are more details here.

    Anycast is also used for other stuff: the F (IIRC) DNS root server is anycasted for redundancy, and one of the IPv4 to IPv6 transition mechanisms uses anycast to locate a nearby hop-on point to the IPv6 network.

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  34. Re:Sooo .... Are the Saruman Scenes In? by Brandybuck · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No, the Saruman scenes will not be in there. You wasted your signature on a petulant protest. So stay home on opening day. That way the line will be just a bit shorter for the rest of us.

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  35. Re:WHAT!!! by G-funk · · Score: 2, Funny

    Don't worry, all the starwars films open here (au,nz) before you guys too since they open on the same date and we're like 18hrs ahead :)

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  36. Not that close! by grantm · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Despite the fact that our countries (Australia and NZ) are geographically close

    Geographically close? The distance between Auckland and Sydney is considerably more than say London to Rome, or New York to Miami. And there is nothing between the two countries except water. It'd be a hell of a long swim.

    Oh and in response to the earlier " They do have kangaroos in New Zealand, don't they?", no we don't, but Wallabies are a somewhat similar species (albeit smaller) that was introduced here a long time ago.

  37. If you don't understand this joke... by sheetsda · · Score: 2, Informative

    you probably just need to hear this.

  38. Re:WHAT!!! by laura20 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    By that logic, there aren't any indigenous people in the world, except for in Kenya. They are indigenous by the same standards as the aborigines: they were the first to get to a place and stay there.

  39. Re:SPOILER!!! by syrinx · · Score: 2, Funny

    the King returns to Gondor.

    Of course, you could read the books like I did 20 years ago...


    Actually, I think you could just read the title, there.

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  40. LOTR Saturation by nzgeek · · Score: 2

    Oh my gods.
    I just turned on TV One - New Zealand's main TV channel, and they have a LOTR backdrop in the news studio.
    Paul Holmes, our equivalent of Larry King, is reporting live from the red carpet.

    Is it just me, or is New Zealand going a bit over the top here?

    I wonder if it's because of our inherent insecurity about being a small and ignorable country. Whenever we get some vaguely worldwide event (America's Cup, Y2K) we go totally over the top. Does anyone not in NZ really care?

    1. Re:LOTR Saturation by MtViewGuy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      New Zealand has all the right to be very proud of Peter Jackson's magnum opus.

      After all, we are talking perhaps the most expensive and complex project in the history of motion pictures, one that would have cost 70 to 100 percent more if it had been done in the USA or the UK. The fact just the box office revenues from The Fellowship of the Ring more than covered the cost of the entire project (and then some! =) ) means New Zealand should be proud to be the place where one of the most profitable movie projects in history was made.

  41. What's wrong with excitement by _Sexy_Pants_ · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I, personally, think it's great that New Zealand is going bonkers over the Premier. I actually wish that such things as unnecessary as a film could have a huge impact over here. It would be like a holiday, only there's no squabble about the moral stance on wether to celebrate or not (unless you want to argue that it sucks, or if you're too snobby for Hollywood).

    I attended the Witching Hour at my Barnes and Noble for Harry Potter. I didn't really buy the book, I just went people-watching. Admittedly, I was a little disappointed. All the fun-and-games were done by one magician, and I think that was completely freelance. Instead they were all big huge lines.

    I guess it's just me. Admittedly, not many other people dressed up as pirates to go see Pirates of the Caribbean, but I think it would only be fun.

    Good job Kiwis. My grandmother lives there, and I eagerly await visiting. Especially beacause I want some Hokey Pokey or Tip Top ice cream!

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