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CmdrTaco
on from the submitted-two-hundred-times dept.
MoonChild was the first of hundreds to submit that MSNBC, ABCNews and others are reporting that Saddam Hussein was arrested. This isn't normal Slashdot subject matter, but I figured it was worth mentioning.
for the Iraqis, maybe not so much for Bush. Unless all the attacks stop, flowers bloom in the desert, and sheep lie down with wolves. His buddies at Halliburton are still gouging the American taxpayer on the no-bid contracts they got. Unemployment is still really high in the US, fewer and fewer people have health insurance, and on and on. Bush will probably get a small bounce in his popularity, but not for long. The people that want him out of power won't change their minds because of this.
-- Do what you can, with what you have, where you are.
Re:bin laden..
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Anonymous Coward
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millions??? you mean those who died because of the sanctions, set under US pressure, right?
Re:This Is A Great Day
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gustgr
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get a hold on my banana fucking american... your country explores all the world... a whole fucking continet is dying for AIDS... fucking bush redneck is manipulating your worm's little blue and white mind... give me a break... i CAN say that I AM PROUD TO BE BRAZILIAN... when all the rest of the world would be lacking water I'll be pissing on the amazon river:D
Yeah heaven forbid that the US govt lied to the world about WMD so they could invade a foreign land, get cheap gas, pump up the military, look good for the cameras and get a re-elect.
You need to pick, I'm tired of this crap. Is Bush: A) The mastermind of an international junta and leader of the illuminati that wants to control the world. B) A simpleton puppet who has to wear velcro shoes.
Seriously though, you've been all over this thread dismissing today's news. Maybe you should really do some introspection. When Saddam's capture seems to be bad news for your views on the conflict in Iraq then something is very, very wrong.
Re:This Is A Great Day
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gustgr
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what UK have to do with that conversation ? The only good and worth thing UK have produced the last 500 years were the beatles and bee gees...
Re:This Is A Great Day
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gustgr
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ohh.. and I forgot... at least the inheir of my kingdom isn't a fag [prince harry] who like a banana in his ass...
Re:No connection
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YrWrstNtmr
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Keep in mind folks that this has absolutely nothing to do with September 11.
So I guess you missed this little tidbit. "The most conclusive evidence comes in a highly detailed list of intelligence reports revealed last month in the Weekly Standard. Senior Iraqis were said to have traveled to Sudan in the mid-1990s to teach bin Laden's operatives how to make sophisticated truck bombs. Terrorists subsequently used such bombs to hit targets in Saudi Arabia and at two U.S. embassies in Africa. "
It's the war on Iraq that was started many years ago by the father
Ahh...it comes into focus now. You believe that Bush Sr. invaded Iraq before Saddam went over the border into Kuwait. And got many, many other countries to go along with him. Gotcha.
Re:Enough already
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Anonymous Coward
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Okay american cheerboy.... so when will Roosevelt and Truman be tried for the genocide they committed against innocent German and Japanese civilians? Or Nixon for genocide in the Vietnam war?
What you talk about is not a "concept of justice", it's a concept of "the US being selt-righteous"
Re:Iraqi, U.S., or international trial appropriate
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torpor
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would use the ICC to bring frivilous charges against various officials in the US.
Ermm... "The Highway of Death" incident, for which Powell, Cheney, Wolfowitz and more are all guilty, is not a frivolous charge. These men *did* commit war crimes, per the international definition, and they *must* be brought to justice.
The only reason the US objects to the ICC is because there is no immunity for these people, whose crimes are well documented outside of the US propaganda machine...
-- ; -- the corruption of government starts with its secrets. a truly free people keep no secrets.
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Re:bin laden..
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inode_buddha
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I celebrated by smoking a very fine Turkish tobacco...
-- C|N>K
Re:Not bad.
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AmericaHater
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I think we got off easy on September 11, 2001. I expect one day in my lifetime, everything south of Canal street will be leveled.
Lets hope so. For most of the rest of the World that is the dream; to See the bully bullied & the number one terrorist state humbled.
Many of us in the West wept for joy when the Twin Tower went down. For me it was a pleasure so great it transcended the mere sexual.
Re:GWI wasn't a formally declared war...
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torpor
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Typical American justification for crime. "There was no law against it, therefore it wasn't a crime."
That there is the end of your Empire, mate.
-- ; -- the corruption of government starts with its secrets. a truly free people keep no secrets.
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Re:This article is a lie!
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Anonymous Coward
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your wrong my little muslim friend, americans are not snakes, we're just inrested in ourselves and our economy, we're going to americanize iraq now and get heavily discounted oil. wars are either fought for religion or business prospects. its business for us, dont take it personally.
Re:Classic misdirection
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starcraftsicko
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The 'War on Terror' cannot be won by capturing anyone! You can only 'win' by solving the problems that only serve to create more and more terrorists.
Almost all modern terrorism is due to US foreign policy. It is not because terrorists "hate freedom". That is, franky an extremely naive view of the world, seperating people into blank and white views of "good" and "bad".
Pardon my lumping your statement with one of the replies, but they are along the same lines....
Exactly what problems do you think are available to be solved in Iraq and the rest of the middle east? I suppose we could turn the Germans loose and let them exterminate the Jews... let them finish the job. And I suppose that we could all bow to Mecca... even the athiests among us... My point is that the problems in that part of the world are not available to be solved, or at least not solvable by any means that would satisfy a squeemish slashdotter.
Perhaps you believe that poverty is the problem? Certainly the American and European Press has been trumpeting this for a couple of years; perhaps you've bought that line? Poverty has never been "solved" anyplace. In Socialist Euroupe, and even in the United States, millions are fed and housed by the government, but this does not prevent people from being poor or impoverished. Poverty cannot be "solved"... at best it can be somewhat reduced or mitigated, and then only by a constitutional government (IE a government run according to rules rather than according to whim).
The US, or Euroupe can not solve "poverty" by simply giving out free food... such solutions breed resentment and create havoc when that aid is withdrawn. OTOH, the people in that part of the world seem resistant to the establishment of any sort of constitutional government.
Give an Iraqui a fish, and he eats for a day, teach an Iraqui to Fish and eats for the rest of his life (or until the UN bans fishing in his river). But the Itaqui insurgency resents our fish, and is uninterested in learning how to fish... Do you see the problem?
As for American foreign policy, the problem many Europeans, Chicoms, and Arabs have with it is that it exists. I suspect that The world preferd the Isolationist America of 1906 or 1936 to the Gulliver Unchained of 2003. Sleeping America came when called and could be counted upon to kill however many Germans were required... Problem is that Sleeping America did not return to sleep after 1945, and has been acting in what it views as its own self interest ever since.
If the Saudi Monarchy was toppled tomorrow, do you believe that anything better would replace it? Would it be in the US interest to see that Monarchy toppled today? Would it be in Euroupe's interest?
The problem in the middle east, with Arabs and Muslimsand all others is that there is a widely held belief that "terrorism" is a legitimate, and even laudable form of political expression. I see no solution to this.
Give a muslim some fire and he'll be warm for a day. Dip him in pork grease and light him on fire, and he'll be warm for all eternity.
Re:Strength and respect are not the same.
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Stiletto
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You sound like a the kid in school who is the biggest and meanest jerk but gets away with everything because he and his family are rich. When he asks his mommy why everybody hates him, she says "Oh, they're just jealous, dear." instead of "Stop being such a jerk."
Saddam lookalike captured
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arobas
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Capture one of the half-dozen Saddam lookalike = Morale drop for the Iraqi resistance + Re-election prospects for W.
The funny thing about all the liberals...
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Anonymous Coward
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It cracks me up on here...
The Bush Administration caught someone who was destroying the rights of the Iraqi people. Grossly ignoring basic civil rights.
Liberals hate Bush so much (generally for made up reasons) that they can't see what a huge victory this is for Civil rights.
All of you liberals that hate Bush and hate the fact we were in Iraq and hate the fact that we caught him. It's unfortunate you couldn't have lived in Iraq 2 years ago.
If you can't deal with it, stop preaching all your civil rights crap because I'm too busy dealing with civil rights on a scale you don't even comprehend. (I'm Superman)
A SHAME that you live with us, kurdish racist moron. Also I'll check you with your university.
Oh, and this is what a Turk does to another... Says he will check me with my university (whatever that means) just because he thinks I'm a Kurd. The guy has no idea that I'd have the right to live & study in Turkey even if I were a Kurd, just as he probably would like to do, in the United States.
I'm so proud that I'm not one of "that kind of" Turks.
Re:A Great Day For America
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dtungsten
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He's a horrible, shocking, lying, brutal dictator... But enough about George Bush
-- I couldn't think of a sig.
Hussein Endorses Dean
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Tikrit, Iraq: After coming out of hiding, international leftist hero Saddam Hussein has endorsed the presidential campaign of fellow traveler Howard Dean.
"I know that Howard Dean and I agree on nearly every political subject," said the freshly-shaved new Democrat icon. "I look forward to donating billions of dollars to his campaign war chest."
"I am delighted to gain the support of such an eminent statesman," said Howard Dean. "I look forward to implementing our shared vision for turning the whole world into a hellhole, starting with the United States."
When asked for comment, a spokesman for the Bush campaign said, "Oh, Democrats, you've gotta love 'em! They're willing to sell out their country just to win an election. They'll sleep with the KKK, the CWP, the PRC, and ugly fat chicks if it'll get a vote."
Hussein has become a symbol of left-wing solidarity and a shining hope of terrorist wannabes.
"After I am elected, I will work to change the Constitution, so that we can elect a great man like Saddam Hussein to the presidency," added Dean.
"I guess this means I'll be bowing out," lamented Green candidate Ralph Nader. "The combination of Dean and Hussein can implement the Worldwide Hellhole plan more effectively if I help them destroy the United States. I heartily endorse the anti-American views of Dean and Hussein, and will be consulting my advisors about the possibility of becoming a Democrat candidate for Vice-President," he added.
Libertarian and Natural Law Party campaigns could not be contacted.
Re:bin laden..
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If you want to find someone to blame for the misery of the Iraqi people you'll find his picture on CNN/Foxnews/MSNBC as the guy we captured today!
So true! It's great that someone who has maimed and killed Iraqi's for the personal gain of his family & peers has finally been arrested.
Slashdot Mirror
This is absurd, I don't know why /. even bothered reporting this story.
Maybe not, but they did share the same goal: to keep Saddam in power.
Slashdot Moderation: From positive to terrible in 2 "insightful" posts.
To the people saying that they are anti-war, pro-Saddam arrest ... What? Did you think he was going to surrender?
ditto to: GOOD JOB GUYS!!!!
for the Iraqis, maybe not so much for Bush. Unless all the attacks stop, flowers bloom in the desert, and sheep lie down with wolves. His buddies at Halliburton are still gouging the American taxpayer on the no-bid contracts they got. Unemployment is still really high in the US, fewer and fewer people have health insurance, and on and on. Bush will probably get a small bounce in his popularity, but not for long. The people that want him out of power won't change their minds because of this.
Do what you can, with what you have, where you are.
millions??? you mean those who died because of the sanctions, set under US pressure, right?
get a hold on my banana fucking american ... your country explores all the world ... a whole fucking continet is dying for AIDS ... fucking bush redneck is manipulating your worm's little blue and white mind ... give me a break ... i CAN say that I AM PROUD TO BE BRAZILIAN ... when all the rest of the world would be lacking water I'll be pissing on the amazon river :D
Yeah heaven forbid that the US govt lied to the world about WMD so they could invade a foreign land, get cheap gas, pump up the military, look good for the cameras and get a re-elect.
You need to pick, I'm tired of this crap. Is Bush:
A) The mastermind of an international junta and leader of the illuminati that wants to control the world.
B) A simpleton puppet who has to wear velcro shoes.
Seriously though, you've been all over this thread dismissing today's news. Maybe you should really do some introspection. When Saddam's capture seems to be bad news for your views on the conflict in Iraq then something is very, very wrong.
what UK have to do with that conversation ? The only good and worth thing UK have produced the last 500 years were the beatles and bee gees...
ohh .. and I forgot ... at least the inheir of my kingdom isn't a fag [prince harry] who like a banana in his ass ...
Staged... that's "Funny", not "Insightful". Who's modding today? Howard Dean?
3cx.org - A truly bad website.
Keep in mind folks that this has absolutely nothing to do with September 11.
So I guess you missed this little tidbit.
"The most conclusive evidence comes in a highly detailed list of intelligence reports revealed last month in the Weekly Standard. Senior Iraqis were said to have traveled to Sudan in the mid-1990s to teach bin Laden's operatives how to make sophisticated truck bombs. Terrorists subsequently used such bombs to hit targets in Saudi Arabia and at two U.S. embassies in Africa. "
It's the war on Iraq that was started many years ago by the father
Ahh...it comes into focus now. You believe that Bush Sr. invaded Iraq before Saddam went over the border into Kuwait. And got many, many other countries to go along with him. Gotcha.
Okay american cheerboy.... so when will Roosevelt and Truman be tried for the genocide they committed against innocent German and Japanese civilians? Or Nixon for genocide in the Vietnam war?
What you talk about is not a "concept of justice", it's a concept of "the US being selt-righteous"
would use the ICC to bring frivilous charges against various officials in the US.
Ermm... "The Highway of Death" incident, for which Powell, Cheney, Wolfowitz and more are all guilty, is not a frivolous charge. These men *did* commit war crimes, per the international definition, and they *must* be brought to justice.
The only reason the US objects to the ICC is because there is no immunity for these people, whose crimes are well documented outside of the US propaganda machine...
; -- the corruption of government starts with its secrets. a truly free people keep no secrets. --
I celebrated by smoking a very fine Turkish tobacco...
C|N>K
Lets hope so. For most of the rest of the World that is the dream; to See the bully bullied & the number one terrorist state humbled.
Many of us in the West wept for joy when the Twin Tower went down. For me it was a pleasure so great it transcended the mere sexual.
Typical American justification for crime. "There was no law against it, therefore it wasn't a crime."
That there is the end of your Empire, mate.
; -- the corruption of government starts with its secrets. a truly free people keep no secrets. --
your wrong my little muslim friend, americans are not snakes, we're just inrested in ourselves and our economy, we're going to americanize iraq now and get heavily discounted oil. wars are either fought for religion or business prospects. its business for us, dont take it personally.
Exactly what problems do you think are available to be solved in Iraq and the rest of the middle east? I suppose we could turn the Germans loose and let them exterminate the Jews... let them finish the job. And I suppose that we could all bow to Mecca... even the athiests among us... My point is that the problems in that part of the world are not available to be solved, or at least not solvable by any means that would satisfy a squeemish slashdotter.
Perhaps you believe that poverty is the problem? Certainly the American and European Press has been trumpeting this for a couple of years; perhaps you've bought that line? Poverty has never been "solved" anyplace. In Socialist Euroupe, and even in the United States, millions are fed and housed by the government, but this does not prevent people from being poor or impoverished. Poverty cannot be "solved"... at best it can be somewhat reduced or mitigated, and then only by a constitutional government (IE a government run according to rules rather than according to whim).
The US, or Euroupe can not solve "poverty" by simply giving out free food... such solutions breed resentment and create havoc when that aid is withdrawn. OTOH, the people in that part of the world seem resistant to the establishment of any sort of constitutional government.
Give an Iraqui a fish, and he eats for a day, teach an Iraqui to Fish and eats for the rest of his life (or until the UN bans fishing in his river). But the Itaqui insurgency resents our fish, and is uninterested in learning how to fish... Do you see the problem?
As for American foreign policy, the problem many Europeans, Chicoms, and Arabs have with it is that it exists. I suspect that The world preferd the Isolationist America of 1906 or 1936 to the Gulliver Unchained of 2003. Sleeping America came when called and could be counted upon to kill however many Germans were required... Problem is that Sleeping America did not return to sleep after 1945, and has been acting in what it views as its own self interest ever since.
If the Saudi Monarchy was toppled tomorrow, do you believe that anything better would replace it? Would it be in the US interest to see that Monarchy toppled today? Would it be in Euroupe's interest?
The problem in the middle east, with Arabs and Muslimsand all others is that there is a widely held belief that "terrorism" is a legitimate, and even laudable form of political expression. I see no solution to this.
You sound like a the kid in school who is the biggest and meanest jerk but gets away with everything because he and his family are rich. When he asks his mommy why everybody hates him, she says "Oh, they're just jealous, dear." instead of "Stop being such a jerk."
Capture one of the half-dozen Saddam lookalike =
Morale drop for the Iraqi resistance + Re-election prospects for W.
I'm a TURK, goddamit!
It cracks me up on here...
The Bush Administration caught someone who was destroying the rights of the Iraqi people. Grossly ignoring basic civil rights.
Liberals hate Bush so much (generally for made up reasons) that they can't see what a huge victory this is for Civil rights.
All of you liberals that hate Bush and hate the fact we were in Iraq and hate the fact that we caught him. It's unfortunate you couldn't have lived in Iraq 2 years ago.
If you can't deal with it, stop preaching all your civil rights crap because I'm too busy dealing with civil rights on a scale you don't even comprehend. (I'm Superman)
A SHAME that you live with us, kurdish racist moron. Also I'll check you with your university.
Oh, and this is what a Turk does to another... Says he will check me with my university (whatever that means) just because he thinks I'm a Kurd. The guy has no idea that I'd have the right to live & study in Turkey even if I were a Kurd, just as he probably would like to do, in the United States.
I'm so proud that I'm not one of "that kind of" Turks.
You mean like when it's OK to attack Iraq when Clinton says it, but not when Bush says it? Face it, everywhere you go, people are self-serving.
He's a horrible, shocking, lying, brutal dictator... But enough about George Bush
I couldn't think of a sig.
"I know that Howard Dean and I agree on nearly every political subject," said the freshly-shaved new Democrat icon. "I look forward to donating billions of dollars to his campaign war chest."
"I am delighted to gain the support of such an eminent statesman," said Howard Dean. "I look forward to implementing our shared vision for turning the whole world into a hellhole, starting with the United States."
When asked for comment, a spokesman for the Bush campaign said, "Oh, Democrats, you've gotta love 'em! They're willing to sell out their country just to win an election. They'll sleep with the KKK, the CWP, the PRC, and ugly fat chicks if it'll get a vote."
Hussein has become a symbol of left-wing solidarity and a shining hope of terrorist wannabes.
"After I am elected, I will work to change the Constitution, so that we can elect a great man like Saddam Hussein to the presidency," added Dean.
"I guess this means I'll be bowing out," lamented Green candidate Ralph Nader. "The combination of Dean and Hussein can implement the Worldwide Hellhole plan more effectively if I help them destroy the United States. I heartily endorse the anti-American views of Dean and Hussein, and will be consulting my advisors about the possibility of becoming a Democrat candidate for Vice-President," he added.
Libertarian and Natural Law Party campaigns could not be contacted.
So true! It's great that someone who has maimed and killed Iraqi's for the personal gain of his family & peers has finally been arrested.
Which prison are they keeping Bush in anyway?