Re:Networking,
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Anonymous Coward
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· Score: 4, Funny
It was down before the first post even appeared, this is destined to be some networking guide...
Re:Networking,
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Anonymous Coward
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· Score: 5, Informative
Maybe Tom and his writers just need to learn _anything_. Props for being one of the first doing what they do but what they write is generally utter crap and often bias is obvious. And Tom's "business insights" are cringable.
Re:Networking,
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inode_buddha
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· Score: 5, Funny
Maybe he could pour some liquid nitrogen on it and make it go faster?
I've got a really good idea for their next article.
Re:Networking,
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Serveert
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· Score: 5, Interesting
After reading his horrific review of Opterons I got the picture really quick: he doesn't know his head from his ass. Naively I emailed him asking for clarifications, it has been a month and he hasn't responded yet. Aceshardware and even anandtech are much better, more thorough and actually know what they're talking aobut.
-- 2 years and no mod points. Join reddit. Because openness is good.
Re:Networking,
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bwdunn
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· Score: 4, Informative
The site is up and working. He's just pointing anyone linking from Slashdot to another index page. Try typing in the URL directly in a new browser:
tomsnetworking.com/
This isn't so dumb after all.
Must I? I THINK SO
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Bobby+Onions
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· Score: 3, Funny
In Soviet Russia, Hardware Guides Tom!
The name pretty much says it all.
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Rosco+P.+Coltrane
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· Score: 4, Funny
So does visiting the site apparently: This document contains no data
-- "A door is what a dog is perpetually on the wrong side of" - Ogden Nash
This week on Tom's Network Guide
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__aawwih8715
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· Score: 5, Funny
"This week we overclock the latest NIC's, and do a torture test to our site -- We will be linked to at slashdot."
Re: This week on Tom's Network Guide
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JagEsquire
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· Score: 5, Funny
This actually has me laughing on the floor.
New site about Networking and the site is down. I lost my trust in Tom when he stopped making an informed decision and started saying that the people that advertise with him have the best products. Launching a Networking site that can't stay up under load just makes me laugh even harder and will make me never come back.
Oh well... There goes my faith in Tom's Networking Ability (Tm)
-- /^[A-Z0-9._%+-]+@[A-Z0-9.-]+\.[A-Z]{2,4}$/i
Not too good for their main audience I guess
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Aliencow
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· Score: 4, Insightful
I haven't seen the site since it doesn't load, but most people I know who are fans of Tom's Hardware are gamers who will tell you stuff such as "OMFG LOL!!!111 Did u see that burning athlon on tomshardware !? AHHAR ROFLELFELFLE" and who will never actually READ anything unless it's a chart with big colorful bars for FPS rates on video cards.
Re:Not too good for their main audience I guess
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Anarke_Incarnate
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· Score: 2, Funny
Come on....do you mean to tell me that if you run a CPU without a heatsink, it can be damaged? Next up on Toms Horsepower Guide, running an '03 Mustang GT without a radiator causes stalling
Re:Not too good for their main audience I guess
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the+unbeliever
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· Score: 5, Informative
The article and video in question was demonstrating poor AMD design quality, in that the AMD proc kept on going until the point of meltdown once the heatsink was removed, the p3 locking up completely, but no damage to the processor, and the p4 clocking itself down.
Of course you can't run a pc without at the very least a heatsink on the CPU, but some die more gracefully than others.
Signed, A Dedicated AMD FanBoy, regardless of heat issues.
Damn slashdot's influence to hell
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t0qer
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· Score: 2, Insightful
Why is it every CMS based site out there now wants to be sectioned out like slashdot?
Tom if you're listening. Just keep the site the way it is. You don't need to copy slashdot. I go to your site for good reviews. My favorite part about your site is the graph analysis you provide with every review that compares a product to a similiar line of products. Also I know you're a smart guy, who knows his stuff, and I hold your opinion in high regard.
Keep doing what you do best. Slashdot is here for bullshit comments, karma, and is generally not considered a "valid journalistic source". Your site is considered journalism by many.
Re:Damn slashdot's influence to hell
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Dark+Lord+Seth
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· Score: 4, Funny
Tom if you're listening. Just keep the site the way it is. You don't need to copy slashdot. I go to your site for good reviews. My favorite part about your site is the graph analysis you provide with every review that compares a product to a similiar line of products. Also I know you're a smart guy, who knows his stuff, and I hold your opinion in high regard.
The worst part is, is that you seem genuine about this. Next up on Tom's Networking!
35k USD Cisco 64 port switch vs 35k USD 64k port 3Com switch! 10+ of explanation why you need one! With 20+ Win32 benchmark tools! 40+ horizontal bar graphs! 60+ pages on senseless bullshit! 80+ of advertisements! Next up, Tom's Applied Mathematics, Tom's Psychological Profiling and Tom's Taxidermy! YAY!
I'd rather read somethingawful.com articles on networking. "Cliss Yablonksi hates stateful firewalls" and "Photoshop Phriday: Your IPv6 implementation vs The Hulk!" sound quite interesting!"
Re:Damn slashdot's influence to hell
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Anonymous Coward
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· Score: 3, Insightful
"Your site is considered journalism by many."
I hope to God you're kidding about this. Tom is about as credible and knowledgable as any random/. post.
Re:Damn slashdot's influence to hell
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the+uNF+cola
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· Score: 3, Informative
I go to your site for good reviews
Then you may wanna go to sites like arstechnica instead.
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-- "I'm not bright. Big words confuse me. But Wanda loves me and that should be enough for you." - Cosmo
WARNING: PARENT REDIRECTS TO FOXNEWS! SICKENING!
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Anonymous Coward
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· Score: 3, Funny
SO GROSS!
It's about time Tom branched into Dating
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Anonymous Coward
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· Score: 5, Funny
Imagine TomsDating.com? He could rank all your potential mates with a variety of benchmarks, and even try overclocking them.
Re:It's about time Tom branched into Dating
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Zork+the+Almighty
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· Score: 4, Funny
I tried to tweaked one and I got punched in the face.
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In Soviet America the banks rob you!
Re:It's about time Tom branched into Dating
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Sexy+Bern
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· Score: 5, Funny
Was it because of your 3.5" floppy?
Re:It's about time Tom branched into Dating
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xkenny13
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Imagine TomsDating.com? He could rank all your potential mates with a variety of benchmarks, and even try overclocking them.
Will they "go down" as quickly as this site did?
I'll say it.......
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USAPatriot
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· Score: 5, Interesting
I'll say it because no one else will. Tom is an ass.
But more importantly his reviews suck! I haven't even looked at this one but i venture to guess it's at least 15 pages, milk that advertising cash cow, tom!
If brevity is the soul of wit, then you are one dumb mother fucker Tom.
Now for the informative part of by rant:
try www.hardocp.com or www.anandtech.com or www.ac eshardware.com
all 100% better than tom's
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Slashdot Moderation: From positive to terrible in 2 "insightful" posts.
Re:I'll say it.......
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Propaganda13
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Yeah, but the brains behind it is Tim Higgins. He made a great site called www.practicallynetworked.com which I believe he sold off then he went on to make www.smallnetbuilder.com,which he seems to have somehow combined with Tom.
What will happen? I don't know, but at least give him a chance to go bad.
Re:I'll say it.......
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W2k
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· Score: 4, Insightful
Admittedly Anandtech write solid reviews, but HardOCP is run by an idiot with an ego problem. I would not rely on their reviews. As for Ace's, I don't visit it very often, so I've no opinion of it.
ALL hardware sites are influenced by advertisers as far as I'm concerned. Though I cannot prove this - some of them may very well be clean - but it's safest to assume this and never put your complete trust in a single site.
-- Quality, performance, value; you get only two, and you don't always get to pick.
Re:I'll say it.......
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Anonymous Coward
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Admittedly Anandtech write solid reviews, but HardOCP is run by an idiot with an ego problem.
I stopped visiting Anandtech when he started linking keywords in his articles to advertisers. The only indication that the links were advertisements was that they were a different color (orange I believe). Embedding advertising in editorial content is quite dubious and his ethics are therefore questionable.
I agree with your comment about HardOCP's owner. A few years back I had an e-mail exchange with him on the issue of video cards. He was doing an expose on ATI's dubious practices and presenting himself as some kind of advocate for the little guy. Yet when I sent lengthy messages detailing similar practices in the NVidia camp, he really didn't want to know about it and finished up insulting me personally.
I have similarly negative opinions of Tom and his Hardware Guide. With everyone vying for more hits, more review hardware, and more advertising dollars, people of integrity are hard to come by in the hardware review business.
"ALL hardware sites are influenced by advertisers as far as I'm concerned. Though I cannot prove this"
I can prove it purely on theory:
Give every product good reviews, manufacturers love you, consumers view you as a cheap shill and your site dies due to lack of userbase.
Give every product honest reviews ("this hardware is worthless" included), manufacturers refuse to supply you with demo hardware and you're stuck paying for your own equip and doing reviews weeks later than everyone else. your site dies due to users going elsewhere.
The only compromise is to favor certain companies and let them deal with the financial aspect(read: cooperate bribing), while trashing their competitors so as to appear like a real reviewer. Its easy to take any data and mangle it to say what you want, and thats all a payed off reviewer has to do.
Combine all of this, and you know that any review site still running is influenced by advertisers. Same with magazines/tv too.
-- Pain lasts, kid. Its how you know you're alive.
Sometimes I think this growing up thing is just pain management-TheMaxx
New methods for testing net gear
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__aawwih8715
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· Score: 5, Funny
Maybe tom will test new networking gear by being linked to by slashdot everytime he has a roundup.
First review summary...
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Tony+Hoyle
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· Score: 5, Funny
"In our benchmarks the 3C905C performed poorly, giving only 99.95Mb/s in our benchmarks. In contrast the FA311 (praise be to the advertisers) gave a flawless 99.99Mb and it definately the gamers network card of choice"
"The fact that the rcom 3C905C stops if you put it in a microwave to 10 minutes then stamp on it, means that the FA311 (praise be to the advertisiers) is the only usable network card in its class"
Re:First review summary...
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Jeff+DeMaagd
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· Score: 4, Informative
I don't know about 100 cards, but there are notable differences in how well gigabit cards operate, differing by as many as hundreds of megabits a second of performance at times. And wireless networking components can be tested for packet rates and speeds given differing distances and base stations.
I do admit that there is too high of a risk of advertisers having an influence on review methodology.
Re:First review summary...
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Hast
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· Score: 2, Interesting
Gigabit cards can differ a lot since some use drivers to to stuff. (Ie it's your CPU that's doing the job.) Since Gigabit cards are pretty damned fast this can have a noticable impact on your computers performance.
That's why you should go with the bigger cards, or just be content with 100Mb since that most likely will satisfy your needs anyways.
Congrats on the nwe site, please accept its first slashdotting with our regards.
-- It's not stupid. It's advanced.
Domain pollution
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ziplux
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· Score: 2, Insightful
Yay for the corruption and pollution of DNS! Couldn't they just have used a subdomain off of tomshardware.com? If this site really is a subsite of tomshardware.com, it would make sense (and be more considerate to the Internet community) to use something like "networking.tomshardware.com" instead of registering a new domain name.
/.ed - it is more like
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HashDefine
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· Score: 5, Funny
Is it a blog about the people that Tom has met in his social network? If it's about computer networks, he's got a lot to learn since his site is now inaccessible;-)
Google Cache
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armando_wall
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· Score: 4, Informative
The more slashdotted the site is, the more I wanna view it!!!
This used to be...
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bwass24
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· Score: 5, Informative
Tom's "new" site is actually a buyout of the informative and well written smallnetbuilder.com. (www.smallnetbuilder.com) Too bad:(
Apparently selling out to Tom was more satisfying than continuing to do a good job.
Tom's is a fraud.
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Anonymous Coward
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· Score: 5, Informative
Actually, the problem with that Intel vs AMD CPU cookout video that Toms showed a while back was not AMD's fault at all. They claimed the AMD CPU will continue to run until it fries itself, while the Intel CPU used Speedstepping to cool itself down if needed.
The problem with the video was that the CPU *DID* have an on core thermal diode... but Tom's PURPOSELY used an Athlon based motherboard THAT DID NOT SUPPORT IT. It was the fault of the motherboard maker and Tom's unsurprisingly selective choice of that motherboard... and that was why the CPU fried itself. Hello? Has anyone SEEN those CPU Shutdown Temp settings in the BIOS? I turned those on in my test rig and COULD NOT fry my AMD CPU.
So much for Tom's "in depth" reporting. The guy's a total sell-out. (Which is obvious) But since he did the worst possible thing in the reporting and journalistic point of view: Changed the credits on articles previously written by another writer just to spite him. (Van Smith over at Van's Hardware.) Bad. I have absolutely no respect or trust for Tom's anymore and never will because of these two incidents... and there have been a few more. I'm sure other/. posters will eventually point them all out.
Fuck it, I'll link the examples myself.
Link One - Kyle from HardOCP's comment about Tom's misleading video. Found in the Ace's Hardware Forums.
Link Two - Post taken from AMDZone posted on Ace's Hardware Forums about Tom's Hardware modifying Van's articles to credit a different author. Forum responses results in some additional info. Read through the threads.
Re:Tom's is a fraud.
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florin
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· Score: 2, Informative
While it's certainly true that Tom's website has been overtaken by other more in-depth websites when it comes to authoritative reporting, your claim that Tom deliberately engineered the test to make the Athlon look bad is in fact completely baseless.
There was a very valid point to that test and that is that the AMD Athlon XP and MP CPUs rely on the motherboard to step in and prevent CPU damage in case of overheat, whereas modern Intel chips protect themselves. It just so happens that at the time of the test there was exactly one motherboard actually available for purchase that had the AMD thermal protection circuitry installed, and that was the exact Siemens board used in Tom's test. I know, because at the time I was *waiting* to be able to buy a board with said support. And what this test showed is that A) thermal protection didn't actually work reliably at the time and B) *all* other boards available would've burned up the MP as well. Just like the Thunderbird did in any case.
As for the Van Smith incident, I'm not sure what happened there, but I could understand why THG would want to distance themselves after discovering what a complete and utter nutcase they had on board.
Looking for a Hardware review site...
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OneArmedMan
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· Score: 3, Informative
..... that is funny, informative and written by someone that acutaually knows what they are talking about without all the bullshit that you usually get.
try DansData.com
well just thinking, Dan tends to review more generic stuff than most guys, but he does have a sense of humour, and is very straight foward with what he thinks of things.
for thoes that didnt realize
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ResQuad
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· Score: 2, Informative
for thoes that didnt realize, that "comming soon" page is for/. refer only.
Toms Hardware Reviews Suck?
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lithiumfox
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· Score: 2
Many people have said this before and will continue to say it many times again. Once again, you must realize that it is a review, and it might have a slanted view that might be diffrent from your own, hence the opinion. Reading a review and then making your own judgments on a product is so much more educational then just ranting about the guy not knowing what he is talking about [even though he might not].
Re:I'll say it....... (Flash ads love you)
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gnu-generation-one
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· Score: 2, Interesting
"Quit being so damn elitist"
What's elitist? I'm not going to read a website with high-colour animations, because I physically can't read things with Flash animations next to them. My brain can't concentrate on reading text when there's an animated hammer, or swirly crap, or strobing blue and red trying to grab my attention.
If a website has Flash on it, I won't read it, nor reccommend it, nor ever come back to it. That's not elitist, that's just something the website owners need to know when they wonder why people follow a link to their site, and then not read the article or any of the rest of the website.
Slashdot Mirror
But can it help me network a beowulf cluster?
Maybe Tom needs to learn about load balancing.
In Soviet Russia, Hardware Guides Tom!
So does visiting the site apparently:
This document contains no data
"A door is what a dog is perpetually on the wrong side of" - Ogden Nash
"This week we overclock the latest NIC's, and do a torture test to our site -- We will be linked to at slashdot."
Oh well... There goes my faith in Tom's Networking Ability (Tm)
/^[A-Z0-9._%+-]+@[A-Z0-9.-]+\.[A-Z]{2,4}$/i
I haven't seen the site since it doesn't load, but most people I know who are fans of Tom's Hardware are gamers who will tell you stuff such as "OMFG LOL!!!111 Did u see that burning athlon on tomshardware !? AHHAR ROFLELFELFLE" and who will never actually READ anything unless it's a chart with big colorful bars for FPS rates on video cards.
Why is it every CMS based site out there now wants to be sectioned out like slashdot?
Tom if you're listening. Just keep the site the way it is. You don't need to copy slashdot. I go to your site for good reviews. My favorite part about your site is the graph analysis you provide with every review that compares a product to a similiar line of products. Also I know you're a smart guy, who knows his stuff, and I hold your opinion in high regard.
Keep doing what you do best. Slashdot is here for bullshit comments, karma, and is generally not considered a "valid journalistic source". Your site is considered journalism by many.
SO GROSS!
Imagine TomsDating.com? He could rank all your potential mates with a variety of benchmarks, and even try overclocking them.
I'll say it because no one else will. Tom is an ass.
c eshardware.com
But more importantly his reviews suck! I haven't even looked at this one but i venture to guess it's at least 15 pages, milk that advertising cash cow, tom!
If brevity is the soul of wit, then you are one dumb mother fucker Tom.
Now for the informative part of by rant:
try www.hardocp.com
or
www.anandtech.com
or
www.a
all 100% better than tom's
Slashdot Moderation: From positive to terrible in 2 "insightful" posts.
Maybe tom will test new networking gear by being linked to by slashdot everytime he has a roundup.
"In our benchmarks the 3C905C performed poorly, giving only 99.95Mb/s in our benchmarks. In contrast the FA311 (praise be to the advertisers) gave a flawless 99.99Mb and it definately the gamers network card of choice"
"The fact that the rcom 3C905C stops if you put it in a microwave to 10 minutes then stamp on it, means that the FA311 (praise be to the advertisiers) is the only usable network card in its class"
Congrats on the nwe site, please accept its first slashdotting with our regards.
It's not stupid. It's advanced.
Yay for the corruption and pollution of DNS! Couldn't they just have used a subdomain off of tomshardware.com? If this site really is a subsite of tomshardware.com, it would make sense (and be more considerate to the Internet community) to use something like "networking.tomshardware.com" instead of registering a new domain name.
TomsNotWorking.com
Is it a blog about the people that Tom has met in his social network? If it's about computer networks, he's got a lot to learn since his site is now inaccessible ;-)
The more slashdotted the site is, the more I wanna view it!!!
Here's the google cache version of THG, for the impatient people like me.
truth hurts don't it
Wierdly the link to www.timhiggins.com now refers to tomshardware.
TimHiggins was a good site for quite some time for reviews and info on wireless and embedded firewall solutions
A serious story about your tech site is posted on Slashdot, and the first six of the highest-scored posts are all "Score: 5, Funny."
The coolest voice ever.
Tom's "new" site is actually a buyout of the informative and well written smallnetbuilder.com. (www.smallnetbuilder.com) Too bad :(
Apparently selling out to Tom was more satisfying than continuing to do a good job.
Actually, the problem with that Intel vs AMD CPU
/. posters will
cookout video that Toms showed a while back was
not AMD's fault at all. They claimed the AMD CPU
will continue to run until it fries itself, while
the Intel CPU used Speedstepping to cool itself
down if needed.
The problem with the video was that the CPU *DID*
have an on core thermal diode... but Tom's
PURPOSELY used an Athlon based motherboard THAT
DID NOT SUPPORT IT. It was the fault of the
motherboard maker and Tom's unsurprisingly
selective choice of that motherboard... and that
was why the CPU fried itself. Hello? Has anyone
SEEN those CPU Shutdown Temp settings in the BIOS?
I turned those on in my test rig and COULD NOT
fry my AMD CPU.
So much for Tom's "in depth" reporting. The guy's
a total sell-out. (Which is obvious) But since he
did the worst possible thing in the reporting and
journalistic point of view: Changed the credits
on articles previously written by another writer
just to spite him. (Van Smith over at Van's
Hardware.) Bad. I have absolutely no respect or
trust for Tom's anymore and never will because
of these two incidents... and there have been a
few more. I'm sure other
eventually point them all out.
Fuck it, I'll link the examples myself.
Link One - Kyle from HardOCP's
comment about Tom's misleading video.
Found in the Ace's Hardware Forums.
Link Two - Post taken from AMDZone
posted on Ace's Hardware Forums about Tom's
Hardware modifying Van's articles to credit a
different author. Forum responses results in
some additional info. Read through the threads.
..... that is funny, informative and written by someone that acutaually knows what they are talking about without all the bullshit that you usually get. try DansData.com
well just thinking, Dan tends to review more generic stuff than most guys, but he does have a sense of humour, and is very straight foward with what he thinks of things.
for thoes that didnt realize, that "comming soon" page is for /. refer only.
snowulf.com
Many people have said this before and will continue to say it many times again. Once again, you must realize that it is a review, and it might have a slanted view that might be diffrent from your own, hence the opinion. Reading a review and then making your own judgments on a product is so much more educational then just ranting about the guy not knowing what he is talking about [even though he might not].
"Quit being so damn elitist"
What's elitist? I'm not going to read a website with high-colour animations, because I physically can't read things with Flash animations next to them. My brain can't concentrate on reading text when there's an animated hammer, or swirly crap, or strobing blue and red trying to grab my attention.
If a website has Flash on it, I won't read it, nor reccommend it, nor ever come back to it. That's not elitist, that's just something the website owners need to know when they wonder why people follow a link to their site, and then not read the article or any of the rest of the website.