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THG Debuts Networking Guide

Posted by michael on from the orinoco-flow dept.

fist_187 writes "Tom's Hardware Guide has opened their new site Tom's Networking. The name pretty much says it all."

118 of 191 comments (clear)

  1. It's good and all by Azadre · · Score: 5, Funny

    But can it help me network a beowulf cluster?

  2. Networking, by p5 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Maybe Tom needs to learn about load balancing.

    1. Re:Networking, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      It was down before the first post even appeared, this is destined to be some networking guide...

    2. Re:Networking, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Maybe Tom and his writers just need to learn _anything_. Props for being one of the first doing what they do but what they write is generally utter crap and often bias is obvious. And Tom's "business insights" are cringable.

    3. Re:Networking, by inode_buddha · · Score: 5, Funny

      Maybe he could pour some liquid nitrogen on it and make it go faster?

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    4. Re:Networking, by oaf357 · · Score: 3, Funny

      I've got a really good idea for their next article.

    5. Re:Networking, by Serveert · · Score: 5, Interesting

      After reading his horrific review of Opterons I got the picture really quick: he doesn't know his head from his ass. Naively I emailed him asking for clarifications, it has been a month and he hasn't responded yet. Aceshardware and even anandtech are much better, more thorough and actually know what they're talking aobut.

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    6. Re:Networking, by Baka_kun · · Score: 1, Funny

      When tom and his writers show me atleast a CCNA certificate, i will believe what they write on this page.

    7. Re:Networking, by VoraciousGorak · · Score: 1
      Maybe Tom needs to learn about load balancing.

      They're about to learn a whole lot real fast!

    8. Re:Networking, by bwdunn · · Score: 4, Informative

      The site is up and working. He's just pointing anyone linking from Slashdot to another index page. Try typing in the URL directly in a new browser:

      tomsnetworking.com/

      This isn't so dumb after all.

    9. Re:Networking, by unclemik9 · · Score: 1

      /. users that use the provided link are being redirected to a subpage on the site.
      http://tomsnetworking.com/index_slashdot.ph p
      that is load balancing.

    10. Re:Networking, by shadowmas · · Score: 1

      this link still can access the actual page
      http://tomsnetworking.com/index.php

  3. Must I? I THINK SO by Bobby+Onions · · Score: 3, Funny

    In Soviet Russia, Hardware Guides Tom!

    1. Re:Must I? I THINK SO by Rick+the+Red · · Score: 1
      Meet the new boss,

      same as the old boss.

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  4. The name pretty much says it all. by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 4, Funny

    So does visiting the site apparently:

    This document contains no data

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    1. Re:The name pretty much says it all. by Frisky070802 · · Score: 1

      Actually, now it seems to read coming soon. Looks like their site release is now in the mysterious future.... when they get enough resources to handle being slashdotted.

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  5. This week on Tom's Network Guide by __aawwih8715 · · Score: 5, Funny


    "This week we overclock the latest NIC's, and do a torture test to our site -- We will be linked to at slashdot."

    1. Re: This week on Tom's Network Guide by JagEsquire · · Score: 5, Funny

      This actually has me laughing on the floor.

      New site about Networking and the site is down. I lost my trust in Tom when he stopped making an informed decision and started saying that the people that advertise with him have the best products. Launching a Networking site that can't stay up under load just makes me laugh even harder and will make me never come back.

    2. Re: This week on Tom's Network Guide by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      I lost my trust in Tom when he stopped making an informed decision

      Whoa. When did he do that? Because actually I pretty much don't care about the latest hardware trends and every time I have to buy a new graphics card or CPU I consult good ole' Tom. Are you implying this was a mistake?

    3. Re: This week on Tom's Network Guide by IM6100 · · Score: 1

      For many of us 'networking' has to do with a lot more than a networked machine running Apache.

      Furthermore, if you connect to the site without a slashdot referrer, you have no problem. So who is the 'bumbling incompetent'? Someone who has their site filter on referrer, or someone who apparently doesn't even understand that's what happened?

      On the other hand, looking at the 'Toms' page, it looks like another gear-review site. Fine enough, but there's more to networking than that.

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    4. Re: This week on Tom's Network Guide by __aawwih8715 · · Score: 1


      True, but his site should be able to handle a slashdotting. I mean, people coming from this site are people his advertisers are going after. Why wouldn't he want the slashdot crowd?

    5. Re: This week on Tom's Network Guide by ch1pn3ss · · Score: 1

      bitch and moan all you want, I bet microsoft couldnt handle the full force of being slashdotted.

  6. Poor Tom has some networking problems of his own.. by BW_Nuprin · · Score: 1

    C'mon, posting a brand new site on slashdot? Thats just plain MEAN!

  7. THD? by JewFish · · Score: 1

    Anyone else read THD debuts networking guide? Well it certainly got me thinking how you could take "advantage" of total harmonic distortion in networking.

    1. Re:THD? by AKnightCowboy · · Score: 1
      Anyone else read THD debuts networking guide?


      No, but everytime I see THG I keep thinking "The Humble Guys" and am wondering if they've got some new 0-day warez out like Police Quest II or Space Quest.

    2. Re:THD? by saintlupus · · Score: 1

      No, but everytime I see THG I keep thinking "The Humble Guys" and am wondering if they've got some new 0-day warez out like Police Quest II or Space Quest.

      Heh. I thought I was the only one who had that reaction to the THG acronym.

      "Oh, good! A new 64k loader!"

      --saint

  8. Slashdotted. by DarkHelmet · · Score: 3, Funny

    Oh well... There goes my faith in Tom's Networking Ability (Tm)

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    1. Re:Slashdotted. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Oh well... There goes my faith in Tom's Networking Ability (Tm)

      Don't worry, keep surfing around the net. Your faith in good ole T 'n' A will be back in no time!

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    2. Re:Slashdotted. by ActiveSX · · Score: 1

      How could you ever lose faith in TNA?

  9. Not too good for their main audience I guess by Aliencow · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I haven't seen the site since it doesn't load, but most people I know who are fans of Tom's Hardware are gamers who will tell you stuff such as "OMFG LOL!!!111 Did u see that burning athlon on tomshardware !? AHHAR ROFLELFELFLE" and who will never actually READ anything unless it's a chart with big colorful bars for FPS rates on video cards.

    1. Re:Not too good for their main audience I guess by Anarke_Incarnate · · Score: 2, Funny

      Come on....do you mean to tell me that if you run a CPU without a heatsink, it can be damaged? Next up on Toms Horsepower Guide, running an '03 Mustang GT without a radiator causes stalling

    2. Re:Not too good for their main audience I guess by the+unbeliever · · Score: 5, Informative

      The article and video in question was demonstrating poor AMD design quality, in that the AMD proc kept on going until the point of meltdown once the heatsink was removed, the p3 locking up completely, but no damage to the processor, and the p4 clocking itself down.

      Of course you can't run a pc without at the very least a heatsink on the CPU, but some die more gracefully than others.

      Signed,
      A Dedicated AMD FanBoy, regardless of heat issues.

    3. Re:Not too good for their main audience I guess by IM6100 · · Score: 1

      I've run CPUs without heatsinks for decades. In fact, I once attached a heatsink to the Z80 processor on my BigBoard CP/M machine, hoping that would make it stop crashing. It didn't. I had to actually put a fan in a case (actually, first I had to put the BigBoard in a case!) and have air circulating over the entire board before it became stable.

      It wasn't an AMD or Intel CPU, tho, so I suppose I should just step out of the way of the fragging here.

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    4. Re:Not too good for their main audience I guess by dnoyeb · · Score: 1

      Yes but why? We know this to be a NEW feature on the P4. So its kind of silly to proclaim today a failure Athlons have had for an eternity!? IIRC, P3 , P2, P1, K6 and K7 as well.

    5. Re:Not too good for their main audience I guess by the+unbeliever · · Score: 1

      The clocking down, sure. The p3 locks up, but doesn't fry itself.

      The Athlon, however, did.

    6. Re:Not too good for their main audience I guess by Aliencow · · Score: 1

      Yeah especially since the 3 good games I got were like, Quake3, Kotor and Manhunt.

    7. Re:Not too good for their main audience I guess by NateTech · · Score: 1

      Umm, the Via Eden 533's run just fine without a heatsink on the processor. 50 watts just isn't very much heat to dissipate.

      Yeah, its slow...

      Your generalization is incorrect.

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    8. Re:Not too good for their main audience I guess by Anarke_Incarnate · · Score: 1

      I understand, but I have seen P3s and P4s, along with various lines of celerons die from thermal issues, as well as K6's, durons and athlons. The point I was merely making was that it was a stupid test in the first place.

  10. Damn slashdot's influence to hell by t0qer · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Why is it every CMS based site out there now wants to be sectioned out like slashdot?

    Tom if you're listening. Just keep the site the way it is. You don't need to copy slashdot. I go to your site for good reviews. My favorite part about your site is the graph analysis you provide with every review that compares a product to a similiar line of products. Also I know you're a smart guy, who knows his stuff, and I hold your opinion in high regard.

    Keep doing what you do best. Slashdot is here for bullshit comments, karma, and is generally not considered a "valid journalistic source". Your site is considered journalism by many.

    1. Re:Damn slashdot's influence to hell by Dark+Lord+Seth · · Score: 4, Funny
      Tom if you're listening. Just keep the site the way it is. You don't need to copy slashdot. I go to your site for good reviews. My favorite part about your site is the graph analysis you provide with every review that compares a product to a similiar line of products. Also I know you're a smart guy, who knows his stuff, and I hold your opinion in high regard.

      The worst part is, is that you seem genuine about this. Next up on Tom's Networking!

      35k USD Cisco 64 port switch vs 35k USD 64k port 3Com switch! 10+ of explanation why you need one! With 20+ Win32 benchmark tools! 40+ horizontal bar graphs! 60+ pages on senseless bullshit! 80+ of advertisements! Next up, Tom's Applied Mathematics, Tom's Psychological Profiling and Tom's Taxidermy! YAY!

      I'd rather read somethingawful.com articles on networking. "Cliss Yablonksi hates stateful firewalls" and "Photoshop Phriday: Your IPv6 implementation vs The Hulk!" sound quite interesting!"

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    2. Re:Damn slashdot's influence to hell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "Your site is considered journalism by many."

      I hope to God you're kidding about this. Tom is about as credible and knowledgable as any random /. post.

    3. Re:Damn slashdot's influence to hell by the+uNF+cola · · Score: 3, Informative

      I go to your site for good reviews

      Then you may wanna go to sites like arstechnica instead.
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    4. Re:Damn slashdot's influence to hell by Hast · · Score: 1

      Actually, considering that he is a medical doctor he may have some valid insights into taxidermy.

  11. That's THC by DigiShaman · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Smoke it up dude...

    Hey scooby!! Pass the dooby!

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  12. WARNING: PARENT REDIRECTS TO FOXNEWS! SICKENING! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    SO GROSS!

  13. It's about time Tom branched into Dating by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Imagine TomsDating.com? He could rank all your potential mates with a variety of benchmarks, and even try overclocking them.

    1. Re:It's about time Tom branched into Dating by Zork+the+Almighty · · Score: 4, Funny

      I tried to tweaked one and I got punched in the face.

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    2. Re:It's about time Tom branched into Dating by Sexy+Bern · · Score: 5, Funny

      Was it because of your 3.5" floppy?

    3. Re:It's about time Tom branched into Dating by xkenny13 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Imagine TomsDating.com? He could rank all your potential mates with a variety of benchmarks, and even try overclocking them.

      Will they "go down" as quickly as this site did?

    4. Re:It's about time Tom branched into Dating by teklob · · Score: 1

      but he would only reccomend the ones who would perform sexual favors for him

    5. Re:It's about time Tom branched into Dating by Joel+Bruick · · Score: 1

      I remember when 5.25" was the floppy standard.

    6. Re:It's about time Tom branched into Dating by Hektor_Troy · · Score: 1

      My 31/2" floppy can turn into an 8" solid state ...

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    7. Re:It's about time Tom branched into Dating by lpret · · Score: 1

      No, it's because he was SCSI...

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  14. I'll say it....... by USAPatriot · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'll say it because no one else will. Tom is an ass.

    But more importantly his reviews suck! I haven't even looked at this one but i venture to guess it's at least 15 pages, milk that advertising cash cow, tom!

    If brevity is the soul of wit, then you are one dumb mother fucker Tom.

    Now for the informative part of by rant:

    try www.hardocp.com
    or
    www.anandtech.com
    or
    www.ac eshardware.com

    all 100% better than tom's

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    1. Re:I'll say it....... by Propaganda13 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yeah, but the brains behind it is Tim Higgins.
      He made a great site called www.practicallynetworked.com which I believe he sold off then he went on to make www.smallnetbuilder.com,which he seems to have somehow combined with Tom.

      What will happen? I don't know, but at least give him a chance to go bad.

    2. Re:I'll say it....... by W2k · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Admittedly Anandtech write solid reviews, but HardOCP is run by an idiot with an ego problem. I would not rely on their reviews. As for Ace's, I don't visit it very often, so I've no opinion of it.

      ALL hardware sites are influenced by advertisers as far as I'm concerned. Though I cannot prove this - some of them may very well be clean - but it's safest to assume this and never put your complete trust in a single site.

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    3. Re:I'll say it....... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Admittedly Anandtech write solid reviews, but HardOCP is run by an idiot with an ego problem.

      I stopped visiting Anandtech when he started linking keywords in his articles to advertisers. The only indication that the links were advertisements was that they were a different color (orange I believe). Embedding advertising in editorial content is quite dubious and his ethics are therefore questionable.

      I agree with your comment about HardOCP's owner. A few years back I had an e-mail exchange with him on the issue of video cards. He was doing an expose on ATI's dubious practices and presenting himself as some kind of advocate for the little guy. Yet when I sent lengthy messages detailing similar practices in the NVidia camp, he really didn't want to know about it and finished up insulting me personally.

      I have similarly negative opinions of Tom and his Hardware Guide. With everyone vying for more hits, more review hardware, and more advertising dollars, people of integrity are hard to come by in the hardware review business.

    4. Re:I'll say it....... by krogoth · · Score: 1

      I've heard this a lot recently, but didn't know what all the fuss was about until I read a comparison of Athlon 64 motherboards a few days ago -- I wasn't even looking closely, but when I compared information with other sources, there were several factual mistakes in virtually every paragraph! (for example, the roundup claimed that the motherboard I now have only supports single-sided DIMMs in two of the slots, but the manual clearly states that you can use a double-sided DIMM in one of those slots at a time)

      I won't believe anything I read on THG again.

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    5. Re:I'll say it....... by gnu-generation-one · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "Now for the informative part of by rant:
      try www.hardocp.com
      or www.anandtech.com
      or www.aceshardware.com"

      www.hardocp.com:
      Do you want to install Macromedia Flash?

      No, fuck off annoying animated unblockable advertising crap.

      www.anandtech.com:
      Do you want to install Macromedia Flash?

      No, fuck off annoying animated unblockable advertising crap.

      www.aceshardware.com:
      Do you want to install Macromedia Flash?

      No, fuck off annoying animated unblockable advertising crap.

    6. Re:I'll say it....... by dnoyeb · · Score: 1

      Cool, I didn't know what. back when practicallynetworked was worth a shit (around when dslreports first came out) I was their faithfully.

      But its whored itself fully and I cant even bear to look at it its soo repleate with ads. Cant even recommend it to people anymore.

      Does this guy deserve a 2nd chanse? or does he want to build up and sell this site as well?

    7. Re:I'll say it....... by dnoyeb · · Score: 1

      I consider HardOCP a very solid site whenever they get around to doing a review, I believe it to be honest.

      But yes, his ego has chased me away and some of his politically incorrect attitudes are offensive. Seems to confuse sensitivity with PC...

    8. Re:I'll say it....... by irc.goatse.cx+troll · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "ALL hardware sites are influenced by advertisers as far as I'm concerned. Though I cannot prove this"

      I can prove it purely on theory:

      Give every product good reviews, manufacturers love you, consumers view you as a cheap shill and your site dies due to lack of userbase.

      Give every product honest reviews ("this hardware is worthless" included), manufacturers refuse to supply you with demo hardware and you're stuck paying for your own equip and doing reviews weeks later than everyone else. your site dies due to users going elsewhere.

      The only compromise is to favor certain companies and let them deal with the financial aspect(read: cooperate bribing), while trashing their competitors so as to appear like a real reviewer. Its easy to take any data and mangle it to say what you want, and thats all a payed off reviewer has to do.

      Combine all of this, and you know that any review site still running is influenced by advertisers. Same with magazines/tv too.

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    9. Re:I'll say it....... by ncc74656 · · Score: 1
      www.hardocp.com:
      Do you want to install Macromedia Flash?

      No, fuck off annoying animated unblockable advertising crap.

      [etc.]

      http://ted.mielczarek.org/code/mozilla/flashblock. xpi

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    10. Re:I'll say it....... by Afrosheen · · Score: 1

      Just admit it man, you're upset because Tom was your english teacher. Guess that refund refusal is what really pissed you off huh?

    11. Re:I'll say it....... by mcbridematt · · Score: 1

      But I'm using Minix/8086 you insensitive clod!

    12. Re:I'll say it....... by dnoyeb · · Score: 1

      Hehe. Thats just how it comes out. I have no idea why my fingers are typing different words than my mind is thinking. Happy my mouth is at bit better at translation.

  15. New methods for testing net gear by __aawwih8715 · · Score: 5, Funny


    Maybe tom will test new networking gear by being linked to by slashdot everytime he has a roundup.

  16. First review summary... by Tony+Hoyle · · Score: 5, Funny

    "In our benchmarks the 3C905C performed poorly, giving only 99.95Mb/s in our benchmarks. In contrast the FA311 (praise be to the advertisers) gave a flawless 99.99Mb and it definately the gamers network card of choice"

    "The fact that the rcom 3C905C stops if you put it in a microwave to 10 minutes then stamp on it, means that the FA311 (praise be to the advertisiers) is the only usable network card in its class"

    1. Re:First review summary... by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 4, Informative

      I don't know about 100 cards, but there are notable differences in how well gigabit cards operate, differing by as many as hundreds of megabits a second of performance at times. And wireless networking components can be tested for packet rates and speeds given differing distances and base stations.

      I do admit that there is too high of a risk of advertisers having an influence on review methodology.

    2. Re:First review summary... by Hast · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Gigabit cards can differ a lot since some use drivers to to stuff. (Ie it's your CPU that's doing the job.) Since Gigabit cards are pretty damned fast this can have a noticable impact on your computers performance.

      That's why you should go with the bigger cards, or just be content with 100Mb since that most likely will satisfy your needs anyways.

  17. Dear Tom by KU_Fletch · · Score: 4, Funny

    Congrats on the nwe site, please accept its first slashdotting with our regards.

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  18. Domain pollution by ziplux · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Yay for the corruption and pollution of DNS! Couldn't they just have used a subdomain off of tomshardware.com? If this site really is a subsite of tomshardware.com, it would make sense (and be more considerate to the Internet community) to use something like "networking.tomshardware.com" instead of registering a new domain name.

    1. Re:Domain pollution by Farrax · · Score: 1

      Making a short, easy-to-remember URL is more considerate to the Internet community than the ephermeral benefits of using a subdomain of 'tomshardware.com.'

      Usability trumps, uh, 'DNS purity.'

  19. Person held responsible... by XplosiveX · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Im starting to wonder if Tom's Netowrking even worked in the first place when the story was submitted. Who is to blame for this? The submitter of the story or the slashdot poster?

    Has anyone actually been to the site before to know that it even exists?

    There has been a lot of THG's articles posted here over the last few weeks so maybe it was just like, "oh well this is THG related so it has to be good" without even checking the link they post it?

  20. /.ed - it is more like by HashDefine · · Score: 5, Funny

    TomsNotWorking.com

  21. Says it all? by martinde · · Score: 3, Funny

    Is it a blog about the people that Tom has met in his social network? If it's about computer networks, he's got a lot to learn since his site is now inaccessible ;-)

  22. just had to:/ by nih · · Score: 1

    is the server at tom's diner?

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  23. Google Cache by armando_wall · · Score: 4, Informative

    The more slashdotted the site is, the more I wanna view it!!!

    Here's the google cache version of THG, for the impatient people like me.

    1. Re:Google Cache by BroncoInCalifornia · · Score: 1

      Even the Google Cache of the site is Slashdoted!

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    2. Re:Google Cache by alib001 · · Score: 1

      FYI the site is up (at the time of this post) but I'd guess they're checking the referer so you won't reach it directly from a link from /.

      Whip out the "_slashdot" from http://tomsnetworking.com/index_slashdot.php and all should be revealed. (Or paste http://tomsnetworking.com into the address bar of your browser.)

  24. Re:WARNING: PARENT REDIRECTS TO FOXNEWS! SICKENING by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    truth hurts don't it

  25. What a pity by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 1

    Pity it's /.ed. I really wanted to read the Friendster/Tribe.net shootout. Or at least look at the pretty charts.

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  26. Are you kidding........ by cypherwise · · Score: 1

    A dating network of a bunch of fat overweight nerds who still live in their mother's basement.........c'mon how successful will that be?

    On the other hand...
    ::thought bubble::

    [ LAN parties w/ mom's homemade mini-weinies and amry sized portions of jolt cola ]

  27. Improvement by ByteSlicer · · Score: 1

    There seems to be improvement: Now I get "TomsNetworking is coming Soon".
    I guess his site wasn't ready to go public yet...

  28. Re:Domain pollution; timhiggins.com? by turtleshadow · · Score: 2, Informative

    Wierdly the link to www.timhiggins.com now refers to tomshardware.

    TimHiggins was a good site for quite some time for reviews and info on wireless and embedded firewall solutions

  29. You know you're short of respect when... by Faust7 · · Score: 4, Funny

    A serious story about your tech site is posted on Slashdot, and the first six of the highest-scored posts are all "Score: 5, Funny."

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  30. For those wondering... by Praedon · · Score: 1

    If you look at Tomshardware.com and look on the bottom left where it shows links to different sections such as CPU's, Ram, etc.. If you press on the word Networking, it goes to the recent victim of slashdot, tomsnetworking.com..... Its possible this site has really always existed.. but people browsing tomshardware didnt pay any attention to where their browsers were taking them.

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    1. Re:For those wondering... by Praedon · · Score: 1

      Update: The person who submitted the story is right.. I just looked and it says that tomsnetworking.com was opened Jan 1st.. Happy New Year Tom from slashdot! : )

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  31. This used to be... by bwass24 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Tom's "new" site is actually a buyout of the informative and well written smallnetbuilder.com. (www.smallnetbuilder.com) Too bad :( Apparently selling out to Tom was more satisfying than continuing to do a good job.

  32. It wakens... by 0x12d3 · · Score: 1
    looks like the servers slowly crawling back to it's knees... to serve up a "coming soon" page.

    News, Reviews and How-To's for Knowledgeable Networkers Coming Soon!
    And by that I'm sure he means they'll have all that fabulous crap when they actually obtain some "knowledgeable Networkers" ;-)
  33. Tom's is a fraud. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Actually, the problem with that Intel vs AMD CPU
    cookout video that Toms showed a while back was
    not AMD's fault at all. They claimed the AMD CPU
    will continue to run until it fries itself, while
    the Intel CPU used Speedstepping to cool itself
    down if needed.

    The problem with the video was that the CPU *DID*
    have an on core thermal diode... but Tom's
    PURPOSELY used an Athlon based motherboard THAT
    DID NOT SUPPORT IT. It was the fault of the
    motherboard maker and Tom's unsurprisingly
    selective choice of that motherboard... and that
    was why the CPU fried itself. Hello? Has anyone
    SEEN those CPU Shutdown Temp settings in the BIOS?
    I turned those on in my test rig and COULD NOT
    fry my AMD CPU.

    So much for Tom's "in depth" reporting. The guy's
    a total sell-out. (Which is obvious) But since he
    did the worst possible thing in the reporting and
    journalistic point of view: Changed the credits
    on articles previously written by another writer
    just to spite him. (Van Smith over at Van's
    Hardware.) Bad. I have absolutely no respect or
    trust for Tom's anymore and never will because
    of these two incidents... and there have been a
    few more. I'm sure other /. posters will
    eventually point them all out.

    Fuck it, I'll link the examples myself.

    Link One - Kyle from HardOCP's
    comment about Tom's misleading video.
    Found in the Ace's Hardware Forums.

    Link Two - Post taken from AMDZone
    posted on Ace's Hardware Forums about Tom's
    Hardware modifying Van's articles to credit a
    different author. Forum responses results in
    some additional info. Read through the threads.

    1. Re:Tom's is a fraud. by florin · · Score: 2, Informative

      While it's certainly true that Tom's website has been overtaken by other more in-depth websites when it comes to authoritative reporting, your claim that Tom deliberately engineered the test to make the Athlon look bad is in fact completely baseless.

      There was a very valid point to that test and that is that the AMD Athlon XP and MP CPUs rely on the motherboard to step in and prevent CPU damage in case of overheat, whereas modern Intel chips protect themselves. It just so happens that at the time of the test there was exactly one motherboard actually available for purchase that had the AMD thermal protection circuitry installed, and that was the exact Siemens board used in Tom's test. I know, because at the time I was *waiting* to be able to buy a board with said support. And what this test showed is that A) thermal protection didn't actually work reliably at the time and B) *all* other boards available would've burned up the MP as well. Just like the Thunderbird did in any case.

      As for the Van Smith incident, I'm not sure what happened there, but I could understand why THG would want to distance themselves after discovering what a complete and utter nutcase they had on board.

  34. Hola by FiendBeast · · Score: 1

    Buenas Noches,

    Soy estudiante Ingles (Frances e Historia a la universidad de Warwick) y quiero entender el punto de vista oficial de la republica Cuba sobre su existencia y su tratamiento por el mundo occidental, especialmente por los estados unidos. He aprehendido el Espanol por algunos anos pero no suficientes para entenderlo totalmente. Existe un sitio Internet para que los extranjeros que no hablan el espanol puedan estudiar para que exista el estado cubano actual?

  35. Looking for a Hardware review site... by OneArmedMan · · Score: 3, Informative

    ..... that is funny, informative and written by someone that acutaually knows what they are talking about without all the bullshit that you usually get. try DansData.com

    well just thinking, Dan tends to review more generic stuff than most guys, but he does have a sense of humour, and is very straight foward with what he thinks of things.

    1. Re:Looking for a Hardware review site... by dj245 · · Score: 1
      In democratic Austrailia, the products advertise themselves!

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  36. Trial by fire by macdaddy · · Score: 1
    LOL! Now this is funny.
    Saturday Jan 3

    TomsNetworking will return as soon as our slashdot initiation is finished..

    Trial by fire I guess. :-)

  37. Site is up, but /.ers turned away by SYFer · · Score: 1

    I guess he just doesn't want us crashing the party.

    If you go to the main Tom's Hardware site (first link in blurb above) and scroll down to the announcement of the new networking site, you'll see that the link works fine from there.

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  38. And Here Is What You See When You Go There by Master+of+Transhuman · · Score: 1

    TomsNetworking will return as soon as our slashdot initiation is finished...

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    1. Re:And Here Is What You See When You Go There by alib001 · · Score: 1

      The site is up but not accessible if you're following the link from /. Drop the "_slashdot" from the address of the page you're being redirected to to see the site.

  39. Couldn't take the heat.... by sp00 · · Score: 1

    Saturday Jan 3 TomsNetworking will return as soon as our slashdot initiation is finished... apparently he doesn't like /. and the /. crowd doesn't like him either.

  40. Another web site brought to it knees! by Zathras11 · · Score: 1

    Oops, we did it again...

    http://tomsnetworking.com

    leads to

    http://tomsnetworking.com/index_slashdot.php

    "Saturday Jan 3

    TomsNetworking will return as soon as our
    slashdot initiation is finished..." ;^)

  41. Re:I'll say it....... (Flash ads love you) by starvo · · Score: 1

    Oh, you won't install flash!
    YOU REBEL! Sock it to em in the gnu/linux way. or whatever bizarre rationale that you're applying that won't let you install flash.

    Geez. It's a flash ad. Either ignore it like 99% of the population does or configure your Proxomitron/Squid/Etc to strip the dern things out of the websites. Having a flash ad doesn't mean that they have sold their soul and abandoned all of their journalistic integrity.

    Quit being so damn elitist.

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  42. Comicbook store guy says... by gklinger · · Score: 1

    Shortest story ever.

  43. for thoes that didnt realize by ResQuad · · Score: 2, Informative

    for thoes that didnt realize, that "comming soon" page is for /. refer only.

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  44. It still works... by Mattwolf7 · · Score: 1
    Tom's Hardware only put up an anti-slash page. Go to Tom's Hardware Click on the news article about networking or even open in a new window and it works.

    With that out of the way, honestly how much networking stuff is there to cover? I seriously doubt they needed to get a new domain for this. All they can review are routers, hubs, switches, WAP, and network cards, nothing nearly as interesting as mobos, processors, or video cards.

  45. Finally! by Jukashi · · Score: 1

    A site dedicated to the daily news in the fast-moving world of networking - because being able to count major networking standards with your fingers just isnt enough.

  46. From the web-site by surfcow · · Score: 1

    >TomsNetworking will return as soon as our
    >slashdot initiation is finished...

    Initiation. Nice word that.

  47. The site is not actually down by FearUncertaintyDoubt · · Score: 1
    I have noticed this with more than a few sites. They apparently check the referrer, and if it's slashdot, then you get their "we're slashdotted" page. But if you paste the url into the browser so you don't have the referrer link, you see the page properly. I think a lot of sites have realized that they need to defend against the hordes who will only look at their site once because it is on slashdot while keeping it accessible to other visitors.

    Try pasting the url http://www.tomsnetworking.com/index.php into your browser and you'll see the site just fine.

  48. Toms Hardware Reviews Suck? by lithiumfox · · Score: 2

    Many people have said this before and will continue to say it many times again. Once again, you must realize that it is a review, and it might have a slanted view that might be diffrent from your own, hence the opinion. Reading a review and then making your own judgments on a product is so much more educational then just ranting about the guy not knowing what he is talking about [even though he might not].

  49. Re:Not quite true by Afrosheen · · Score: 1

    From what I've seen about the 64's, they run alot cooler with 1.5v core voltages. They may indeed run cooler than the nuclear furnaces that the XP chips currently double as.

  50. Re:I'll say it....... (Flash ads love you) by bangular · · Score: 1

    Flash player on linux is binary only. Last time I checked (which was pretty recently) it was compiled against gcc 2.x. On top of that, it _wasn't_ compiled against 2.95.3 which is the most stable gcc 2.x out. So to install it one must symlink the gcc 2.95.3 libs to the ones flash was compiled against. That's assuming you have gcc 2.x and not a 3.x series gcc on your system (then you've got to install gcc 2.x in a non conflicting location, probably /opt/gcc). That's an awful lot of work to install something that I have no use for.

  51. logo by gounthar · · Score: 1

    one thing that doesn't change from site to site is that their logo still sucks!!
    Ahh! German taste!

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  52. site ancestry by darket · · Score: 1

    Tom's Networking was formerly know as "Small Net Builder". It is run by Tim Higgins and could be reached via http://www.timhiggins.com (which now redirects to the new site).
    Actually, the site was quite good, the reviews where fair and interesting, testing mostly WLAN-equipment in an in-depth way that rivals for example the german magazine c't.
    I hope that the site isn't influenced too much by the THG-company-ethics (if you can call it that ...)

  53. Re:I'll say it....... (Flash ads love you) by gnu-generation-one · · Score: 2, Interesting

    "Quit being so damn elitist"

    What's elitist? I'm not going to read a website with high-colour animations, because I physically can't read things with Flash animations next to them. My brain can't concentrate on reading text when there's an animated hammer, or swirly crap, or strobing blue and red trying to grab my attention.

    If a website has Flash on it, I won't read it, nor reccommend it, nor ever come back to it. That's not elitist, that's just something the website owners need to know when they wonder why people follow a link to their site, and then not read the article or any of the rest of the website.

  54. THG? by fishbowl · · Score: 1

    Did anyone else see THG and think "The Humble Guys?"

    Man I miss those days.

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  55. Re:Not quite true by Anarke_Incarnate · · Score: 1

    my "nuclear furnace" of an XP1700+, using a $7 speeze heatsink is running a cozy 100F at the moment while overclocked to 2400+ (1.99GHz)

  56. Re:Not quite true by Afrosheen · · Score: 1

    That must be magical. I know you probably thought I was some kind of Intel fanboy but I have a pair of xp2100's over here, and when they're under full load, you can probably defrost a frozen pizza behind the case in minutes. These chips run hot, no doubt about it.

  57. Re:Not quite true by Anarke_Incarnate · · Score: 1

    I happened to get a Tbred 1700+. It ran 94F when I was at stock. 1.69v made me get 1.99Ghz easily and 180x2 FSB