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LaserMonks Offer Prayer, Printer Cartridges

Minnesotan writes "According to a Twincities.com article: If you need discounted inkjet- or laser-printer cartridges, Wisconsin's LaserMonks say they'll give you a doozy of a deal while you 'support prayer for the world'. The Cistercian priests - yes, they're actual Catholic monks - oversee a novel e-commerce enterprise out of their rural abbey. Proceeds go to maintain the monastery and finance charitable works around the world."

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  1. Well somebody has to say it... by tekiegreg · · Score: 4, Funny

    Noticed they were using ASP, from the Evil empire....heathens!!! Oh wait they're monks, and they offer me prayers so does that cancel out and make them ok again?

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    1. Re:Well somebody has to say it... by Elgon · · Score: 5, Funny
      ASP??? They should be using Perl, shurely??

      Perlmonks

      Elgon

  2. H2G2 by Carnildo · · Score: 2, Funny

    LaserMonks? With a name like that, they've got to be electric!

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    1. Re:H2G2 by drinkypoo · · Score: 2, Funny

      And in that moment, the poster was enlightened.

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  3. Hmmm. by Pig+Hogger · · Score: 3, Funny
    Does Brother Dominic works there?

    I guess Xerox wasn't too much off the bat...

  4. Oh, so that has been my problem ... by ThisIsAnExampleAccou · · Score: 4, Funny
    All of this time, I have been cursing at my printers, rather than blssing them.

    Michael Bolton: Load Letter? What the f*ck does that mean?!?!?? You wanna step to this? I didn;t think so!

    /end office space quote

    1. Re:Oh, so that has been my problem ... by AndroidCat · · Score: 3, Funny

      Sure. You use curses with terminals, not printers.

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  5. With These Guys by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Refilling your Lexmark cartridge isn't just a DMCA violation -- it's a sin!

    1. Re:With These Guys by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Refilling your Lexmark cartridge isn't just a DMCA violation -- it's a sin!

      Joke apart, those monks could do it : can you imagine Lexmark dragging them to court over this? Sure they'd be guilty, but Lexmark's sales would take a big dip, so they'd never do it. How's that for a DMCA circumvention scheme?

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  6. time honored tradition by drenehtsral · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This is an updated verson of a very old (middle ages) tradition of monastaries doing some specialized task (and doing it well) and using thier product to sell or barter for needed supplies, food, etc...
    This practice kept a lot of trades and information alive that might have otherwise died out. It would take a reel jerk to sue them for DMCA violations too =:-)

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    1. Re:time honored tradition by dogfart · · Score: 5, Funny
      It would take a real jerk to sue them for DMCA violations

      A DMCA suit then appears inevitable.

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    2. Re:time honored tradition by terraformer · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yeah, I went to catholic HS and I wil tell you, there is no better fund raiser than a catholic organization. As you said, they have a long tradition of "charitable" works and they just update them for the times they are in.

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    3. Re:time honored tradition by Pirogoeth · · Score: 2, Funny

      Kind of like the priest from my hometown that found an interesting thing to do with duck poop...

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    4. Re:time honored tradition by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful
      This is an updated verson of a very old (middle ages) tradition of monastaries doing some specialized task (and doing it well) ....

      And a particularly appropriate task. After all, one of their primary functions was copying books.

    5. Re:time honored tradition by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting
      This is an updated verson of a very old (middle ages) tradition of monastaries doing some specialized task (and doing it well) ....

      And a particularly appropriate task. After all, one of their primary functions was copying books.

      And those scribe monks got very pissed when the printing press made their skills obsolete. Maybe this is their revenge: undercut the overpriced inkjet sinners.

    6. Re:time honored tradition by Eccles · · Score: 5, Funny

      A priest selling duck poo? Holy shi....

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    7. Re:time honored tradition by Eiki · · Score: 3, Insightful

      This is particularly true of the Cistercian order, to which the lasermonks belong. In the middle ages, they were a sort of poor newcomer compared to the Benedictines or Dominicans, and therefore were given only marginal, hilly lands for their monasteries. Thereby short on income, they developed their monasteries into high-tech medieval factories, doing things like textile production or metalwork with waterpowered machines (water power being one asset they did have in the mountains). Cistercian cloth was among the finest in Europe, and overall the order was one of the leading technological or commercial organizations of the time.

    8. Re:time honored tradition by kzadot · · Score: 2, Funny

      Takes a jerk to sue monks? WTF? We are talking catholic monks here. If anyone needs to be sued, its flat-earth believing, copernicus-killing, book-burning, orphan-molesting, anti-science, creation-believing, anti-birth control, each-other-sodomizing, sodomy-condemning, oral-sex-condemning, bible bashing, hypocritical, catholic monks.

      We have a lot to sue these clowns for not just DMCA violations.

  7. Makes you wonder by Rathian · · Score: 2, Funny

    Whether Lexmark will attempt to DMCA them?

    That'll make for a wonderful headeline:
    "Lexmark to sue monks"

    Still, can't help but think of Brother Theo from Babylon 5, great character.

    1. Re:Makes you wonder by D-Cypell · · Score: 2, Funny

      Whether Lexmark will attempt to DMCA them?

      Nah... they havent got a prayer! ;o)

  8. sinners by arcanumas · · Score: 4, Funny

    I wonder if slashdoting the website of monks is actually a sin...

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    1. Re:sinners by NanoGator · · Score: 5, Funny

      "I wonder if slashdoting the website of monks is actually a sin..."

      Only if you get modded up for joking about it.

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    2. Re:sinners by arcanumas · · Score: 2, Funny
      Only if you get modded up for joking about it.

      I guess i should better go confess to them for being a karma whore.

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  9. Dr Evils new plan... by Eluding+Reality · · Score: 3, Funny

    After Sharks with frickin laser beams didn't work out.... Dr Evil hatches his next plot - LASERMONKS
    mwhhhahhahahaha mwhhhaaaa

  10. Borrowed scripts by ctrl-alt-elite · · Score: 5, Funny

    Looking over the page's source, it looks like they borrowed a lot of their JavaScript. Talk about copying scripture...

    /rimshot

  11. It gets weirder by Pflipp · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I heard some of these monasteries actually make money off brewing beer!

    (Next, they'll be back at handwriting Bibles again for the lack of printing ink...)

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    1. Re:It gets weirder by a-aiyar · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Not that weird. Trappist monasteries have been brewing beer for centuries. They've been making cheese as well. Perhaps the best known Trappist beer and cheese are from the Scourmont abbey in southern Belgium -- can you say Chimay :-)

    2. Re:It gets weirder by gwernol · · Score: 5, Informative

      I heard some of these monasteries actually make money off brewing beer!

      There is a great and long tradition of Trappist monastaries brewing beer. The Belgian trappist ales are some of the finest in existence. If you like your beer dark, rich and potent then there is nothing finer. The best known are the Chimay ales which are truly excellent, especially the chocolatey Trippel.

      Goodness I think its time to leave work and find God at the bottom of a bottle...

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    3. Re:It gets weirder by Scrameustache · · Score: 3, Informative

      I heard some of these monasteries actually make money off brewing beer!

      So? They're catholics, not mormons. Jesus turned water to wine, they turn grain to beer.

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    4. Re:It gets weirder by steeef · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The best alcohol made by monks comes in the form of Chartreuse:

      Only three monks know the identity of the 130 plants, how to blend them and how to distill them into this world famous liqueur. They are also the only ones who know which plants they have to macerate to produce the natural green and yellow colours. And they alone supervise the slow ageing in oak casks.

      (text from http://www.chartreuse.fr/pa_green&yellow_uk.htm)

      Wonderful liquer. Tastes like drinking a Christmas tree, but one made of 55% alcohol.

    5. Re:It gets weirder by andynz · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yes, if a Christmas tree tastes like cheap aftershave.

    6. Re:It gets weirder by Xenographic · · Score: 4, Interesting

      "No longer drink only water, but use a little wine for your stomach's sake and your frequent infirmities."

      1 Timothy 5:23, New King James version.

      Only the Mormons are against all drinking, really, though a few other denominations (e.g. Methodists) did participate in Prohibition, ages ago. The Bible only really condemns being drunk (not just drinking) as parent says.

  12. Blasphemy by contagen · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'm pretty sure slashdotting a bunch of monks is asking for plague, famine, or at least a couple of lightning bolts.

    1. Re:Blasphemy by Black+Jack+Hyde · · Score: 5, Funny

      Could be worse. They might be Shaolin monks, in which case Taco's going to get seven kinds of stuff kicked out of him for putting their bandwidth bill into the stratosphere.

  13. Maybe we could find... by HotNeedleOfInquiry · · Score: 4, Funny

    A witchdoctor toner refiller who could put a curse on SCO with each cartridge purchase.

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  14. no affiliation by chocolatetrumpet · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I have no affiliation with Trappestine Quality Candy except that Mom orders it every year around the holidays and it's really good. Just sayin'.

    Ok, so I have an affinity. Check my nick. :sigh: Yum!

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  15. Douglas Adams is back! by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 2, Funny

    Wisconsin's LaserMonks say they'll give you a doozy of a deal

    Are these LaserMonks related to the Electric Monk by any chance?

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  16. Re:You insensitive clod! by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm an athiest!

    and a dyslexic too.

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  17. Re:maybe this isn't such a good idea... by xao+gypsie · · Score: 2, Informative

    Or do they first circumsize and baptize everyone who buys a modem from them? :D
    *ahem* it is the greek orthodox church, i believe that circumsized and baptizes.....not the catholics

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  18. I for one... by tekiegreg · · Score: 5, Funny

    Welcome our new monk overlords, well actually they kinda are if they talk to god and all.

    In my prayers tonight: "God, give me strength to put up with my job to take care of my Fiance..."
    God: "I can do that for you, but buy some new toner for your HP Laserjet 1100 for only $50 at http://www.lasermonks.com and you'll get a raise and your Fiance will love you forever..."

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  19. I can see it now... by DigitalHammer · · Score: 2, Funny

    In the year 5057 A.D., a consortum of middle aged monks form a weapons production business, selling their wares exclusively to Christian battle outposts and missionaries in distant galaxies, fighting a holy war against the masses of Romulan infidels...

    and so these intergalatic boomstick hawkers called themselves...PhaserMonks.

  20. Re:But ALL religion is faith based. by Aeolusz · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Boy, could we ever have some fun with this one! Can you prove that Caesar existed? Can you prove that Napoleon tried to conquer much of Europe? Did these things happen: Absolutely! Why? Because there is a great deal of evidence. But how do you prove these things? Impossible! You must weigh the evidence. Saying that Christianity is a fairy tale because of a lack of proof is pretty lame -- not really worthy of slashdot if you ask me.

  21. A reasonable question by Maigus · · Score: 4, Informative

    Are there going to be any comments to this story which aren't modded "funny"? I mean really, what can you say?

  22. New twist on an old idea. by mikeophile · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Monks used inks to copy and illuminate manuscripts throughout the middle ages.

    Now they are selling us the ink to copy and illuminate whatever manuscripts we want.

    Since I'm pretty sure those ancient monks never had permission to copy any of the works they did, does that make them the original data pirates?

    1 0WnZ0r y3 0ld 4$5

    1. Re:New twist on an old idea. by gerardlt · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Actually, copyright did not begin to form as an idea until the 17th - 18th Centuries.

      The huge cost of reproducing a book meant that it was not a problem until the movable type printing press became popular at the end of the fifteenth century - which ultimately put the monks out of that kind of business.

      Interestingly, the way that reproduction happened in the middle ages (and before) was was very similar the way that people copy music now. Essentially, a monastery would swap works with it's "friends" (other monasteries, generally).

      Sources:

      • http://www.ucalgary.ca/applied_history/tutor/end middle/bluedot/print.html
      • http://arl.cni.org/info/frn/copy/timeline.html
      • The Name of the Rose, Umberto Eco (Fiction).
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    2. Re:New twist on an old idea. by MooCows · · Score: 2, Funny

      I think they could argue that God gave them permission to copy the bible...

      I hope so, or there's gonna be one hell of a lawsuit

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  23. Glory to God Towing by alw53 · · Score: 2, Funny


    We used to have a Glory to God
    Towing company in Fort Collins.

  24. Vocations to the Priesthood by Eberlin · · Score: 2, Funny

    Having fewer signups into priesthood, the Catholic Church officially announced that they will be issuing standard lasers to people who complete the training program. The Pope noted that "this is a momentous occasion. Since the film Star Wars came out, the Church had contemplated issuing Light Sabers but did not want the public to know that we had such technology. Until now, we only dress like jedi knights."

    On a more serious note, it's a difficult job raising money in a monastery. Unless you happen to attract genetically altered rich folks that answer to the name "47" (Hitman 2), you'll need to find creative ways to earn a living. I've heard quite a few that have products for sale ranging from seasonal fruitcake, chocolates, and now toner cartridges.

    Wake me when the amish start selling toner cartridges.

  25. Re:getting slow so... by hellish+products · · Score: 3, Informative

    lazy...

    Monk e-business
    BY JULIO OJEDA-ZAPATA
    Pioneer Press
    More photos JIM GEHRZ PHOTO
    The Rev. Bernard McCoy heads up LaserMonks -- when he isn't praying, of course.

    SPARTA, Wis. -- Phone calls to LaserMonks' rural headquarters are sometimes tinged with caution or outright suspicion.

    Those are awfully good prices for generic inkjet or laser-printer cartridges, a caller might remark after checking the offerings at www.lasermonks.com.

    What's the catch?

    And, c'mon, you aren't really monks, are you?

    A recent caller lost seven years of savings to an online scam artist after trying to book a cruise for herself and her daughters. She vowed never to buy anything else on the Internet.

    But with three printers churning out student papers in her Pennsylvania home, she couldn't ignore discounts of up to 90 percent over name-brand cartridges. Look, she told LaserMonks, she had trust issues. She needed the firm to set her mind at ease.

    LaserMonks' response helps explain why the two-year-old e-commerce venture based at the Cistercian Abbey of Our Lady of Spring Bank -- yes, with actual Catholic monks -- appears to be on a stratospheric business trajectory.

    At a time when online printer-cartridge vendors can trigger mistrust because of some questionable offers clogging inboxes, LaserMonks has seen its gross revenue soar from about $2,000 in 2002 to about $500,000 in 2003. Projected 2004 sales are three to four times higher still.

    To pull off this e-tailing feat, LaserMonks has had to win over disbelievers with high-quality products and top-flight customer service along with rock-bottom prices, not to mention small but meaningful gestures its clients don't expect.

    The skeptical Pennsylvania mother, for instance, got four cartridges on speculation. Try 'em out, LaserMonks said. If you like them, consider sending us a few bucks. No hurry, take a few months to think it over.

    The company soon got paid in full for the shipment, along with a second order for four cartridges.

    ORA ET LABORA

    The 75-year-old abbey, which has been at its current location about 130 miles southeast of St. Paul for 19 years, isn't the sort of place that screams "e-commerce hotbed."

    Perched on a wooded hill, just up an unpaved road and through a decorative gateway, the low-slung composite-stone structure seems bereft of life -- until Gregorian chanting tips off a visitor that white-and-black-robed inhabitants are somewhere about.

    Inside a small chapel, a few Cistercian priests melodiously remind themselves of the Latin dictum ora et labora -- prayer and work, always in that order.

    Only then does the 36-year-old Rev. Bernard McCoy trod through a carpeted hallway to his modest office -- the LaserMonks nerve center. From there, he oversees a nationwide network of people and facilities in his practical role as the abbey's "steward of temporal affairs."

    McCoy's key role: generating cash to support the abbey along with its complex array of charitable causes around the world. That also means overseeing a modest portfolio of real-estate holdings. One recent day, he haggled good-naturedly with the local tax assessor over one property's perceived value.

    Before LaserMonks came about, McCoy obsessed over other ideas for turning his perennially cash-strapped monastery into a money machine. Until last year, he sold spiritual books and other religious items on the Web. For a while, he oversaw a program to move and renovate homes due for demolition. He has considered cultivating shiitake mushrooms, building a golf resort and breeding Christmas trees.

    This is a common issue for monasteries, convents and other such communities, which typically must support themselves.

    Trappistine nuns in Dubuque, Iowa, make candy. Nearby Trappist monks build caskets. Oregon Trappists warehouse wine. Massachusetts Trappists make jams and jellies. Belgian Trappists brew beer. Filipino monks and nuns make fruit concoctions d

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  26. Other Monastic Geek Suppliers by CaptainCarrot · · Score: 4, Informative

    And where would geeks be without caffeine? Try Monastery Blend Coffee from the Christ the All-merciful Saviour Russian Orthodox Monstery on Vashon Island near Seattle. Excellent stuff.

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  27. What can I say? by AndroidCat · · Score: 3, Funny

    Would you like friars with that?

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  28. Re:Just goes to show... by citog · · Score: 2, Funny

    Read the article: Rev. Bernard McCoy runs the operation. Is he 'real' enough? :)

  29. But... by GozerBrothers · · Score: 2, Funny

    do they only sell Brother ink cartridges?

  30. Huh? by devphil · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Since I'm pretty sure those ancient monks never had permission to copy any of the works they did,

    Citations, please?

    I'm pretty sure they did. Because many of the copied manuscripts have little line-counts in the margins, called stichoi, noting how many lines the scribe copied that day, so that the person hiring the monks to do the work knew how much to pay him. Perfectly legitimate job.

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  31. They also outsource windows hardware config... by Codex+The+Sloth · · Score: 3, Funny

    The REAL plug 'n pray ;-)

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  32. Ya, but do you black-out? by msimm · · Score: 3, Funny

    If you don't at least see little people its not really worth it. I'll just have another Guinness.

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  33. Re:maybe this isn't such a good idea... by chunkwhite86 · · Score: 2, Offtopic

    Very few people are "uncircumcized", which is a difficult bit of plastic surgery The word is "intact".

    Yes, my mistake with the terminology.

    I believe your assertion that "very few" people are circumcized may apply only to the US. Many people outside the US are "intact". There is no medical reason why the procedure is performed - anyone who bathes on a regular or even semi-regular basis has nothing to worry about in the genital hygene dept.

    Perhaps this is a new /. poll?

    - Yes, I've been cut.
    - No, I'm all there.
    - I'm female you jackass.
    - I have no genitals you insensitive clod!.
    -

    Ok maybe not.

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  34. Re:maybe this isn't such a good idea... by operagost · · Score: 2, Funny
    I don't know, but when I tried to check out the site I got this:
    Access to this server is forbidden from your client
    How did they know I'm protestant?
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  35. Re:Lasermonks by monkhelper · · Score: 2, Informative

    I am a monkhelper and because of the wonderful newspaper article about Lasermonks and the traffic from your site, our webhost shut us down because traffic was flooding the server. We greatly apologize for this and would love for one of you techno-wiz-people to recommend a good host that will grow with us and allow us as much bandwidth as we need. And yes, they really are monks and are extraordinary human beings. I like to say that the vision behind Lasermonks is "technology meets theology" with a bit of spice.

  36. Re:View from HP? by monkhelper · · Score: 2, Informative

    Are you willing to be open minded and take into consideration that our web host cut us off due to unusually high traffic? We had to do more than pray to get back up and running.